PENNANTS!

I have argued for many years that the NHL should reward SC finalists by making them pennant winners—ala mlb. Back in the original six era, winning a Stanley Cup was fairly achievable, especially if you could hang around for a decade or play for one of the Canadian teams (or Detroit). Modern era? 30 teams, draft, it’s insane. The 2006 Edmonton Oilers won a pennant, so did Jarome Iginla and Trevor Linden and Craig Ramsay and Brad Park and Keith Magnuson and Brian Propp (well, he won a lot of them before the Oilers positively skewered him every spring). Pennant winners: It’s the right thing to do.

  1. Montreal (11): ’68, ’69, ’71, ’73, ’76-’79, ’86, ’89, ’93
  2. Boston (9): ’70, ’72, ’74, ’77, ’78, ’88, ’90, ’11, ’13
  3. Philadelphia (8): ’74, ’75, ’76, ’80, ’85, ’87, ’97, ’10
  4. Edmonton (7): ’83, ’84, ’85, ’87, ’88, ’90, ’06
  5. Pittsburgh (6): ’91, ’92, ’08, ’09, ’16, ’17 
  6. Chicago (6): ’71, ’73, ’92, ’10, ’13, ’15
  7. Detroit (6): ’95, ’97, ’98, ’02, ’08, ’09
  8. New Jersey (5): ’95, ’00, ’01, ’03, ’12
  9. New York Islanders (5): ’80, ’81, ’82, ’83, ’84
  10. New York Rangers (4): ’72, ’79, ’94, ’14
  11. Dallas (4): ’81, ’91, ’99, ’00
  12. Los Angeles (3): ’93, ’12, ’14
  13. Calgary (3): ’86, ’89, ’04
  14. St. Louis (3): ’68, ’69, ’70
  15. Vancouver (3): ’82, ’94, ’11
  16. Tampa Bay (2): ’04, ’15
  17. Anaheim (2): ’03, ’07
  18. Buffalo (2): ’75, ’99
  19. Carolina (2): ’02, ’06
  20. Colorado (2): ’96, ’01
  21. Nashville (1): ’17 
  22. San Jose (1): ’16
  23. Florida (1): ’96
  24. Ottawa (1): ’07
  25. Washington (1): ’98
  26. Atlanta-Winnipeg
  27. Columbus
  28. Minnesota
  29. Phoenix
  30. Toronto

Pittsburgh has almost caught up with the Oilers, and are within range of expansion sister Philadelphia for the honors of most pennants for the 1967+ group. I always joke about Toronto having zero pennants but that’s not going to last much longer.

Note: If you run through these teams in the years they won pennants, you will find many worthy players who earned acclaim. Cliff Koroll, Gilbert Perreault, Daniel Alfredsson, Mark Howe, Fernando Pisani. Please consider the pennant. It’s the right thing to do.

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26 Responses to "PENNANTS!"

  1. HT Joe says:

    Great write-up… thank you for that Lowetide.

    The predators have been around for 19 years, and have a smart GM steering the ship all this time, yet this is their first pennant. The NHL should award the pennant… it’s a helluva achievement!

  2. Diablo says:

    4 Pennants for Crosby and Malkin now – those 2 have had a great run. Comparing that to the 80’s Oilers of 5, puts into perspective just how good they’ve been.

  3. StixMalone says:

    3 posts today? You are on fire LT! And it isn’t even draft day! You are a beast sir……

  4. John Chambers says:

    I dunno. I’d have a hard time listening to a Canucks fan boast about having 3 pennants.

    But yeah, it’s a rare and special journey.

  5. OF17 says:

    Agreed on the pennants. Winning your conference is a big deal. The whole East vs. West structure of hockey, basketball, and football goes back to the NL-AL distinction in baseball, where the two were considered entirely separate leagues. The World Series was between two league champions. Thinking of it in those terms gives it the gravitas I think it deserves.

    It took three rounds or fewer to win the Cup before 1975. Some of those teams would’ve won a four-round Cup too, so reducing their achievements to just “pennant winners” would be unfair. But it does put into perspective how much of an achievement making the Stanley Cup Finals is. Those Cupless Vancouver and San Jose teams should rightly be recognized for how good they were.

  6. Professor Q says:

    OF17,

    Same thing with the NFL and AAFC.

  7. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Not sure I agree with this one LT.

    The thing about NHL hockey, it’s how exclusive it is to win the SC. That final series is outlasting your exhausted opponent, or crushing them. I think the SCF is the final and greatest rest of character and I wouldn’t want a pennant marginalizing the difference between the winner and loser. The defeat should be bitter, not a celebration over a pennant.

    One could argue that the President’s Trophy is similar company to a pennant. It’s meaning is good enough (and equally meaningless) for me.

    The only thing I’d change in the playoffs is the consistency in officiating between regular season & playoffs. Protect the sanctity of skill and leave the rest of the playoffs alone. The SC is the hardest trophy in sports to win and I enjoy that it’s held within exclusive company.

  8. Professor Q says:

    Admiral Ackbar,

    I don’t know, I think especially with the merger with the WHA and NHL, it’s more relevant now than ever.

    Not to mention that the Stanley Cup has been the prize for more than the NHL. In fact, it has been awarded to many, many leagues!

    Thus, the Conferences deserve love. They win the Clarence S. Campbell and Prince of Wales Trophies, however, so I guess technically those are their pennants.

    So, in reality, they already do. And have for some time.

  9. anjinsan says:

    Last night there was Schultz, coming back for a game 7 with a goal and assist in a 3-2 2OT game 7. Since you’re posting with frequency, perhaps a reflection on how Schultz was crushed out of Edmonton. Edmonton fans are absolutely demanding, but not so knowledgeable of talent that is innate and yet to be developed. Moving ahead into the summer, the commentaries are full about getting a RHD PP QB — damn it, Schultz was there! Schultz is better than Shattenkirk, Faulk, most others — but incompetent management squandered him.

  10. Admiral Ackbar says:

    Professor Q,

    You’re right. Those trophies are there.

    And no one cares about them – so much that they actually refuse to touch it half the time.

    They know they haven’t reached their true goal.

  11. sliderule says:

    The NHL got the finals they wanted

    Two American teams.

    Both the oilers and senators got jobbed by officiating

    In the oilers series the officials they assigned allowed mayhem

    In the Sens case the officials they assigned allowed blatant diving and blew the whistle on soccer style injuries from which the player popped up and returned to play normal shift.

    The NHL controls the officials they assign and that had huge affect on outcomes.

  12. Professor Q says:

    sliderule,

    They also did miss a few high sticks on Sens players (not to mention the slash on Methot earlier in the year), while not calling obvious dives on Pens players.

    And then calling the plays early when Sens had the puck (if they were to call a play on the Penguins).

  13. russ99 says:

    Who’s going to call less than a brutal penalty in a game 7 OT?

    The idea is that it ends on the ice, not by the officials.

    I have real issues with a lot of things the refs did in this playoff year, and would love to see some accountability, and clearer definition of some rules, like Kesler’s pad bear hug not being considered interference.

    But last night they got it right.

  14. Professor Q says:

    russ99:
    Who’s going to call less than a brutal penalty in a game 7 OT?

    The idea is that it ends on the ice, not by the officials.

    I have real issues with a lot of things the refs did in this playoff year, and would love to see some accountability, and clearer definition of some rules, like Kesler’s pad bear hug not being considered interference.

    But last night they got it right.

    This makes no logical sense.

  15. russ99 says:

    anjinsan:   (Quote)  (Reply)

    I see that as part of the price paid by Katz enabling and festering the old boy network here for years.

    Glad that Justin is doing well, after some tough years defending the player from outright nasty criticism. Some earned, some not.

  16. russ99 says:

    Professor Q: This makes no logical sense.

    How? The idea that the playoffs should be squeaky clean and nonphysical so the Oilers can have an easier ride is ludicrous.

    Some of our fans are too in love with “Oilers Hockey”, fast-skating scoring lines and puck moving defensemen to see what really wins the teams the Stanley Cup, year after year, generation after generation. The physicality is part of the allure of the sport.

    A two minute slashing penalty in a game 7 OT doesn’t help anyone, just opens up thoughts that the refs decided the series.

  17. Professor Q says:

    russ99: How? The idea that the playoffs should be squeaky clean and nonphysical so the Oilers can have an easier ride is ludicrous.

    Some of our fans are too in love with “Oilers Hockey”, fast-skating scoring lines and puck moving defensemen to see what really wins the teams the Stanley Cup, year after year, generation after generation. The physicality is part of the allure of the sport.

    A two minute slashing penalty in a game 7 OT doesn’t help anyone, just opens up thoughts that the refs decided the series.

    Only a Sith deals in absolutes.

  18. jake70 says:

    anjinsan:
    Last night there was Schultz, coming back for a game 7 with a goal and assist in a 3-2 2OT game 7.Since you’re posting with frequency, perhaps a reflection on how Schultz was crushed out of Edmonton.Edmonton fans are absolutely demanding, but not so knowledgeable of talent that is innate and yet to be developed.Moving ahead into the summer, the commentaries are full about getting a RHD PP QB — damn it, Schultz was there!Schultz is better than Shattenkirk, Faulk, most others — but incompetent management squandered him.

    How much would you have offered him in dollars and term for him to be part of the roster in Edmonton this past season??

  19. Scungilli Slushy says:

    anjinsan:
    Last night there was Schultz, coming back for a game 7 with a goal and assist in a 3-2 2OT game 7.Since you’re posting with frequency, perhaps a reflection on how Schultz was crushed out of Edmonton.Edmonton fans are absolutely demanding, but not so knowledgeable of talent that is innate and yet to be developed.Moving ahead into the summer, the commentaries are full about getting a RHD PP QB — damn it, Schultz was there!Schultz is better than Shattenkirk, Faulk, most others — but incompetent management squandered him.

    Did you wat h the game ? Schultz was really poor defensively. He got a PP goal and passed the puck toCrosby who set up the winner. Kunitz was the story of that game.

    Karlsson also was not strong in his own end, guys play right through him, scoring chances set up repeatedly against him. He got two assists as well, but perhaps not getting outshot 3-1 or whatever they might have actually won.

    I can’t reconcile the poor defense with the scoring, in not certain it’s a net benefit at this point. Pittsburgh has Crosby to shelter the fine passing Schultz as Crosby has the puck all of the time , I’m not sure he’d be very good on most teams.

  20. JDI says:

    russ99: A two minute slashing penalty in a game 7 OT doesn’t help anyone, just opens up thoughts that the refs decided the series.

    Not if it’s consistently called, from the opening faceoff until the end of the game. Then it’s a stoopid penalty taken in OT, and everyone would know it.

    I also don’t recall anyone saying they want non-physical playoff hockey so that the Oilers can win. The rules are already there, as Kerry Fraser said yesterday on Gregor’s show, and that’s what we want called. He also said not to blame the refs, because the direction on how they interpret the rule book comes from the league.

  21. Stud Muffin says:

    They give out trophys to the pennant winner, what more do you want?

  22. jtblack says:

    oh LT: Great Stuff. 100% on board with Pennants! We went through the last 35 years and lots of players barely make it to the final four, never mind win a Pennant or Compete for the Cup. Now with 31 Teams, it will be so rare to win the Cup. IF you haven’t played for PIT, L.A. or CHI in the last decade, you most likely weren’t part of a Cup, as 7 of the last 8 belong to these teams. Possibly 8 of the last 9 in two weeks time.

    I think NHL teams should make a bigger deal of celebrating the achievement of making the playoffs, which also has become much more difficult. Then this silly superstition of NOT celebrating winning a Pennant (east or west) is asinine. Year after year, captains don’t touch the Campbell or Wales trophy, only to Lose in the final. Celebrate your achievement! Party it up. Let your Fans soak it in.

  23. jtblack says:

    Going off of your Stats above, since the ’79 Expansion, The Oilers have the most Pennants of any team (and the most Cups) … Even with the decade of Darkness, as Oilers fans we must realize how lucky we are.

    We witnessed one of the Greatest Teams in the history of the League and the games Greatest Offensive Wizard. Now again, we are blessed with the arrival of Sir Connor. Some Franchises are Extraordinary Lucky. Pittsburgh has been privelaged to watch Lemieux, Jagr, Crosby & Malkin and in the last 27 Years has to be the most successful franchise, alongside Detroit. Considering the Pens won last year and maybe this year, and that they should be competing for the Cup for the next 5 years, while Detroits window has closed, I will give the nod to the Penguins.

    But, Oilers fans were treated to Two of the Top Players of all time in Gretz & Mess and a host of other great players and now most likely get to watch the most decorated OHL player in history, who is already the youngest Captain in the League, 2nd youngest Art Ross Winner and will become only the 3rd player to win the Hart while under 21 years of Age (Gretz & Croz the other 2).

    Last year was the first year I didn’t even mind when the Oilers lost, because watching Connor was so amazing almost every shift!

    Our Pennants are coming. How many? Who knows. And when we win the West, I will be celebrating that Pennant, knowing how rare it is. Let’s Go Oilers. Bring on the Pennants.

  24. jtblack says:

    Thought: Is Parity an Illusion? We are talk about Parity in the NHL. The narrative put out by the League is all about the Parity and how any team can win. Now, lets remember why the standings seem so close each year, the point system has been questioned by many. But the current system is here and it also, subconsciously adds to the illusion of parity. So Even thought the New Jersey’s and Vancouvers had virtually no chance to make the playoffs, the standings and media would keep stating that they were “only” one hot streak away or just 7 points back .. Guess What, it’s an illusion …

    If there is Great Parity in the NHL, why have 7 of the Last 8 Cups been split between 3 teams? Quite possibly 8 of the last 9 if the Pens this year.

    Looking at what McDavid just accomplished in lifting the Oilers to the playoffs in year 2, I am starting to wonder if the League does not have the much “Parity” but rather, if the lotto balls drop your way when a Superstar is set to be drafted (Kane, Croz, McD), that may dictate years of success and dominance in a League that is supposed to make exactly that, very difficult.

    So is there parity or not?

  25. Lowetide says:

    Stud Muffin:
    They give out trophys to the pennant winner, what more do you want?

    I’ve noticed a few of these posts from you recently. Stud Muffin, this is my blog. I write things here that matter to me. If they don’t matter to you, perhaps don’t post in those comments. It seems to me this kind of comment doesn’t move the conversation forward. Please and thanks.

  26. jtblack says:

    Lowetide,

    Good job LT. As the CEO or LT Land, only you can boot out the downers ..

    Your work is Magnificent. I love all of your posts, attitude, creativity and knowledge.

    Keep it up!

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