FLY LIKE AN EAGLE

We spoke yesterday about the Bakersfield Condors and the need for additional help, especially at center. Aside from the NHL activity we’ll see over the next while, we should expect some significant investment in the AHL team. Part of that process involves saying goodbye to some of last year’s Condors. Slowly but surely, these men are finding new homes and we have an update on that group today.

ERIC RODGERS EV GF-GA ON ICE 2016-17 (BLUE)

Oilers have signed a plethora of new pro defenders (Caleb Jones, Ethan Bear, Ziyat Paigin, Ryan Mantha, William Lagesson) many of whom will be in Bakersfield for 2017-18. Reinhart, Betker and Fayne could all be back depending on how the summer goes, but one suspects the organization would be interested in having Jordan Oesterle and Dillon Simpson return.

NORFOLK ADMIRALS REPLACEMENT?

The Norfolk Admirals are now affiliated with the Nashville Predators and we have been waiting for news on a new Double-A team for the Edmonton Oilers. The Alaska Aces have ceased operations, Worcester has a new team but the Islanders are the parent team there. Adirondack? We wait. In case you’re wondering if the ECHL is important, the answer is yes. It’s a proving ground for young players who are blocked by veterans at the AHL level. Some of the men who are now NHL players but needed that Double-A opportunity are Devan Dubnyk and Brandon Davidson.

Oilers prospects who spent time in the ECHL in 2016-17 include Ben Betker, Eetu Laurikanen and Zach Pochiro. There’s also a possibility the organization no longer sees value in having an secondary minor league team, to be honest the number of forwards in the system available for AHL/ECHL games is very low. We wait.

DESTINATION UNKNOWN

  • G Eetu Laurikainen. Signed with JYP of Finland’s Sm-Liiga. 
  • LD Kris Russell.  Many people are saying Edmonton has competition for his services.
  • RD Eric Gryba. Possible 7D but it would probably be a late signing again.
  • LD Jordan Oesterle. UFA may have extra value with Sekera inj if they see him as third pair.
  • LD Mark Fraser. Played third pair in Bakersfield, veteran enforcer/defender.
  • LD Dillon Simpson RFA. Some of Eric Rodgers numbers (EV GF-GA) favored him.
  • LD David Musil RFA.. His KHL rights now belong to CSKA Moscow. 
  • LC Anton Lander. Officially signed with Ak Bars of the KHL. 
  • LC David Desharnais. Scored a huge goal versus San Jose, unlikely to be back.
  • LC Jere Sallinen. Signed in Sweden (Orebro HK) after unsuccessful season. 
  • RC Henrik Samuelsson, RFA. Major disappointment after trade. Future unknown.
  • RC Zach Pochiro RFA. Remnant of Yakupov deal, unlikely to return.
  • L Matt Hendricks. In the olden days, this is where we start talking roving minor  league coach.
  • L Joey Laleggia. RFA, suddenly an important signing.
  • R Tyler Pitlick. His return may depend on other summer moves by the Oilers.
  • R Justin Fontaine. Edmonton will need a quality veteran in the AHL, could be him.

Two updates this week, Eetu Laurikainen heading to Jyp of the Sm-Liiga and the KHL rights of David Musil were traded. I have included names like Zack Kassian and Jujhar Khaira below (despite their status as RFA’s) in order to get a more realistic view of the roster. Everyone on the list above is less than 100 percent to return in my opinion, your mileage may vary.

CURRENT 50-MAN (38)

  1. G Cam Talbot. No. 1 goalie, will he have a veteran backup in 2017-18?
  2. G Laurent Brossoit. If he’s in Edmonton this fall, a lock for backup. Right?
  3. G Nick Ellis. Splendid first year pro, on par with Brossoit if he can sustain it.
  4. G Shane Starrett. Another college goalie with strong resume. First pro season coming up.
  5. G Dylan Wells. Slide rule, he’ll spend one more year in junior.
  6. LD Oscar Klefbom. Can he hit 40 points? 25 minutes a night? Quality.
  7. RD Adam Larsson. Consistent defenseman, with an edge.
  8. LD Andrej Sekera. He could be out for five months. A massive loss.
  9. RD Matt BenningAn absolutely stunning addition right where it was needed.
  10. LD Darnell Nurse. Trade whispers? Nah.
  11. LD Griffin Reinhart, RFA. No. 7D if he survives the expansion draft.
  12. RD Mark Fayne. He is in the NHL mix with the Sekera injury.
  13. LD Ziyat Paigin. Wingspan of a Condor, pro experience, shutdown talent.
  14. LD Ben Betker. Big man should get a full AHL season.
  15. RD Ethan Bear. Posted a terrific junior career and should have prominent role in AHL.
  16. LD Caleb Jones. He arrives in pro hockey with good speed and a range of skills.
  17. RD Ryan Mantha. Interesting new arrival. Big man, big shot, good speed.
  18. LD William Lagesson. He’ll spend the year in SHL shutting down Swedish forwards.
  19. LC Connor McDavid. He’ll have a big June, including his first major award.
  20. LC Leon Draisiatl, RFA. How much $, and for how long? Important signing.
  21. LC Ryan Nugent-Hopkins. Beginning to hear his name in the ether.
  22. RC Mark Letestu. Great utility, can he score 16 again?
  23. LC Jujhar Khaira, RFA. A strong expansion candidate, brings size and rugged play.
  24. LC Joe Gambardella. Strong college career, he could surprise in Bakersfield.
  25. RC Kyle Platzer. He should get a feature role in Bakersfield if they believe in him at all.
  26. L Milan Lucic. A stronger 5×5 performance next year is a must.
  27. L Patrick Maroon. He won the McDavid job, can he keep it and score 30?
  28. L Drake Caggiula. Looked better late in the year and in postseason.
  29. L Benoit Pouliot. Expansion Golden Knights might reach out and grab him.
  30. L Braden Christoffer. AHL energy winger.
  31. L Tyler Benson. Slide rule, finally got an update on him (below).
  32. R Jordan Eberle. Trade value may keep him here, that’s not a bad thing.
  33. R Jesse Puljujarvi. One of the major stories for this coming training camp.
  34. R Anton Slepyshev. I think he’ll be a regular, can he score 15? 20?
  35. R Zack Kassian. RFA. He has far more speed than anticipated, could score 10-15.
  36. R Iiro PakarinenMost recent signing, he’ll try to win 13 or 14F.
  37. R Patrick Russell. Scored only 8 times as rookie pro. Needs to fill the net this year.
  38. R Greg Chase. Final year of entry-level deal ahead, has shown only flashes.

The Oilers had a nice article up on some of the prospects (it is here) and another one is on the way today. After I wrote the piece on Benson yesterday, Jim Matheson wrote about him and a couple of sources reached out to me. The news on Benson is positive. We await the second piece from the Oilers today, no doubt commenting on men like Ethan Bear, as well as Benson. Hopefully a medical update on how things are going for him (Matty says he’ll be ready for prospects camp in a few weeks). The real test will be this winter, seeing if he can endure the rigors of a long season.

IVAN HLINKA PERFORMANCES

The Oilers would have followed Jesse Puljujarvi from the Ivan Hlinka summer 2015 through draft day, not knowing they would be in the mix to grab him. I always wonder how much that Hlinka tournament impacts a scouting group. If you ‘see him good’ in summer, it must impact the overall assessment. This year’s eligible players who were top scorers at their Hlinka:

  1. RC Alexander Chmelevski, USA (5gp, 5-5-10)
  2. L Michael Pastujov, USA (5gp, 3-6-9)
  3. LC Ryan Poehling, USA (5gp, 4-3-7)
  4. L Linus Nyman, Finland (4gp, 3-4-7)
  5. R Sami Moilanen, Finland (4gp, 4-2-6)
  6. Source

JP was 4gp, 3-2-5 in the 2015 Hlinka, on his way to an astounding international performance that made him one of hockey’s most famous draft eligibles for 2016.

OHL PROSPECTS

Brock Otten has his final media poll out for the OHL prospects in this year’s NHL draft. I love his work, highly recommend him all year. The folks he has doing the survey and commenting are excellent and this is worthwhile information for Oilers fans. There’s a very good chance we see at least one player taken from the OHL (three of 15 under the Chiarelli regime have come from the league) and it could be the first rounder.

KRIS RUSSELL GONE?

Online chatter has Kris Russell getting a substantial offer from another NHL team. Peter Chiarelli needs a RHD for the long term and a LHD for the short term. Many believe Russell can fill either role, but everyone I know agrees that the Oilers would be foolish to get into a bidding war and spend deep and long. Sometimes these rumors come from agents, we are told, so I’m not sure if it really gives us much new information we can rely on. Russell at $3.1M times one worked out, suspect teams are willing to go two or even three. Peter Chiarelli can’t afford to tie up a lot of cap on Russell, so prepare yourselves for the news Edmonton didn’t get their man if this information is reliable.

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86 Responses to "FLY LIKE AN EAGLE"

  1. DBO says:

    Please outbid us for Russell. Save us from ourselves.

    Forces us to look at other options. And internally we do have some LD who could play minutes.

    2 year deal at $3 mill for Franson.
    1 year deal at $4 mill for LT fav Campbell.

    Time for kids to develop. And doesn’t kill cap this year or next. Adds vets who can play. And provides depth once Sekera is back.

  2. nvan97 says:

    Is there any likelihood that Vegas uses a pick or two from their expansion draft to sign a UFA ahead of the window like a Russell? Maybe they see greater value in getting a jump on a player like that than they do in selecting a Reinhart instead. I know that they have a limited amount of times they could do that but selecting and then signing Oshie, or Gagner might be a wise decision IMO.

  3. DBO says:

    nvan97,

    They don’t need to select them. They can sign any UFA right now, and Then that player is considered their selection from the team losing them. Gagner is a interesting one since Vegas could pay him like a top 6 player, he is still young enough to be a part of team when they are competitive and he would get huge minutes. May be best landing spot for him, and save Columbus from losing anyone.

  4. Jaxon says:

    DBO:
    Please outbid us for Russell. Save us from ourselves.

    Forces us to look at other options. And internally we do have some LD who could play minutes.

    2 year deal at $3 mill for Franson.
    1 year deal at $4 mill for LT fav Campbell.

    Time for kids to develop. And doesn’t kill cap this year or next. Adds vets who can play. And provides depth once Sekera is back.

    YES to this.

  5. Ducey says:

    http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/edmonton-oilers-kelly-buchberger-new-york-islanders-coach-doug-weight

    Updates from Matheson.

    Bucky will coach with NYI.
    Eatu and Beck gone.
    Pochiro unlikely to come back. Samuelson had some issues in Bak last year. Sounds like he is done too.
    Comment from a scout that Parker Foo might be a late round draft pick. He is 19. Better than Spencer at same age.

    Perhaps that is what Spencer is trying waiting on. Perhaps the Oilers take little brother in the 5th and get a signed Spencer too. 2 for 1!

  6. Jaxon says:

    DBO:
    nvan97,

    They don’t need to select them. They can sign any UFA right now, and Then that player is considered their selection from the team losing them. Gagner is a interesting one since Vegas could pay him like a top 6 player, he is still young enough to be a part of team when they are competitive and he would get huge minutes. May be best landing spot for him, and save Columbus from losing anyone.

    I believe they can sign RFAs too, which makes me think Pitlick could be Vegas’ Oilers choice.

  7. Lowetide says:

    Jaxon: I believe they can sign RFAs too, which makes me think Pitlick could be Vegas’ Oilers choice.

    Pitlick is UFA.

  8. TO10801 says:

    If there is any year to stay away from the free agents this might be the year. Teams are going to feel like they are thinner than in the past (because expansion) which means there will be teams pushing hard to fill holes in their lineup via free agency. Several teams are going to be down a top-4 D so is it possible Russell gets 4×4 on the open market? I would guess its probable. Also, I know Hanzal has been mentioned, but if Nielsen got 5.25×6 as a 32YO I don’t see how Hanzal won’t get at least the same.

  9. Brantford Boy says:

    Sorry for my ignorance, I thought I had my calendar sorted and tomorrow was the big day for the Benoît Pouliot buyout. Aside from VGK, I didn’t think other teams were allowed to speak to UFA’s until like June 25 so how is there already bids on a player we currently have rights to.

  10. jtblack says:

    nvan97,

    I don’t think UFA’s are going to sign on the dotted line for Vegas … the UFA has the control. You think Oshie is going to sign in Vegas? no chance … All the players know Vegas will be a low end team for at least 3 years … To your point, they would only try and sign a UFA if they believe that player has more value to them or as a trading chip, than the player they can pick up in the draft, which in almost all cases, is not true …

  11. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Great post LT. If I’m Russel I take a 3-4 year contract elsewhere.

    – Still no moves, so I post again, winner gets a Lowetide Paypal contribution (40+ entries so far…):

    1) Which Oil player will Vegas select?:
    2) Who is our first pick in the Entry Draft?
    3) Does Ebs get moved? (bonus if you pick for who)
    4) Does RNH get moved (bonus if you pick for who)
    5) Who is our back-up G on game 1?
    6) Total $ amount/years for Russell (0 is an answer)
    7) Total $ amount/years of McDavid’s contract?
    8) Total $ amount/years of Drai’s contract?
    9) Which 2 D dress with Larsson/Klef/Nurse/Benning on game 1?
    10) Biggest off-season F acquired in terms of salary?:
    11) Is Jessie playing in NHL game 1?
    12) How many roster trades does Chia make?

    Please sent in the following format:
    1
    2
    3
    4
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10
    11
    12

    Here are my answers BTW:

    1 Pouliot
    2 Josh Norris (they trade down, get more picks)
    3 Yes, for Dumba
    4 No
    5 Brossoit
    6 0
    7 8 x 7.7
    8 8 * 6.6
    9 Dumba/Reinhart
    10 Drew Stafford
    11 No (Foo does though!, Jesse gets Drai treatment…)
    12 2

  12. TO10801 says:

    Brantford Boy:
    Sorry for my ignorance, I thought I had my calendar sorted and tomorrow was the big day for the Benoît Pouliot buyout.Aside from VGK, I didn’t think other teams were allowed to speak to UFA’s until like June 25 so how is there already bids on a player we currently have rights to.

    I believe the buyout period opens tomorrow, but the oil wont buy out Pouliot until after expansion because they need to meet the exposure requirements for forwards for the expansion draft. If they chose to buy him out, I would expect the news would come closer to the end of the buyout window. As for Russell, I would imagine it is just speculation, or as lowetide says, from the agent as leverage in the negotiations with PC right now.

  13. LMHF#1 says:

    Ducey:

    Samuelson had some issues in Bak last year. Sounds like he is done too.

    Why can’t anyone get a straight answer on Samuelsson?

    Is everyone afraid Ulf is going to pop out of nowhere and take out their knee if they say something bad?

    If it’s health, say so. Attitude? Say so. Coach didn’t like him? Say so.

  14. Jaxon says:

    Lowetide: Pitlick is UFA.

    Oops, right. My point still stands, though. I think Pitlick could be attractive to Vegas’ as a young, cheap winger who was having a great season before injury. They could sign him cheap for a number of years. He’s an exciting player. The gamble might pay off for Vegas. And Pitlick may jump at the chance with Eberle still on the roster, Draisaitl a sometimes RW, Puljujarvi on his way up, Kassian as a solid veteran, Slepyshev having a great playoff, Pakarinen seeming to have the coach’s trust, and the possibility of Spencer Foo choosing Edmonton the right side could seem a bit crowded for him. Plus, he may want to get out from under the Edmotnon injury curse and willingly sign with an American team. They could probably sign him for 3 or 4 years at 1,025,000 per or less. that could turn out to be a huge bargain down the road.

  15. Ducey says:

    LMHF#1: Why can’t anyone get a straight answer on Samuelsson?

    Discretion. It’s a thing.

  16. gadot10 says:

    Congratulations to Todd Nelson, Calder Cup champion.

    Somebody please hire the guy.

  17. Pouzar says:

    Are we gonna see any trades before the June 17 moratorium?
    If not I am going back to bed.

  18. magneto says:

    Pouzar:
    Are we gonna see any trades before the June 17 moratorium?
    If not I am going back to bed.

    NHL is trying to make sure that none of the trades involving Vegas get leaked

    Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun 2h2 hours ago
    Replying to @PierreVLeBrun
    and part of the message from the NHL to GMs was to make sure NOT to leak any trades made with Vegas to media ahead of big June 21 reveal…

  19. Lowetide says:

    Pouzar:
    Are we gonna see any trades before the June 17 moratorium?
    If not I am going back to bed.

    People laughed at me for taking this week off, and now look! 🙂 Seriously, I thought it would be much busier, maybe we’ll see something before the Saturday freeze.

  20. jtblack says:

    It seems whether it’s the trade deadline or this expansion draft, they hype stirred up by the media far exceeds any of the action … I mean, if Matt Dumba moves, are we all gonna fall off our chair in shock?

    I am sure there are some behind the scenes deals with Vegas, but I think they are much more Marcus Kruger / Benoit Pouliot deals rather than blockbusters …

    Has anyone noticed a lot of the media’s stories now are actually non stories; IE: So and so has NOT been asked to waive his NTC. or There is NOT news on Galenchyk. there are 600 players, we could make up a lot of NOT’s and DIDN’T’s

    I hope for LT we see some action (For us all). I do think the action will come after the expansion draft, including the entry draft .. but no more than usual …

  21. TO10801 says:

    jtblack:
    It seems whether it’s the trade deadline or this expansion draft, they hype stirred up by the media far exceeds any of the action …I mean, if Matt Dumba moves, are we all gonna fall off our chair in shock?

    I am sure there are some behind the scenes deals with Vegas, but I think they are much more Marcus Kruger / Benoit Pouliot deals rather than blockbusters …

    Has anyone noticed a lot of the media’s stories now are actually non stories; IE:So and so has NOT been asked to waive his NTC.or There is NOT news on Galenchyk.there are 600 players, we could make up a lot of NOT’s and DIDN’T’s

    I hope for LT we see some action (For us all). I do think the action will come after the expansion draft, including the entry draft .. but no more than usual …

    I think the trades will come Friday night/ Saturday morning. Teams are going to do everything they can to make a deal with Vegas to stay away from player X. If that fails, then the team will look at the best offer they have received for the player.

  22. jtblack says:

    Lowetide,

    LT: This gives you extra time to do some more in depth draft work! I saw that Tolvenin is a Left shot RW. Is this correct? He’s one of your volume shooters I think …..

  23. jtblack says:

    TO10801,

    Are the Oilers Stanley Cup chances going to change at all if Khaira is selected? Reinhart? I would argue they won’t ….

    Now there are a few teams that will lose a decent player, but nobody is losing a Core piece ..

    I think bigger items are actually who can dump salary or get vegas to take an unwanted player; thus allowing the team to use $$ elsewhere .. IE: If we did offload Pouliot to Vegas; that is much more important than which player they pick from us …

  24. ohhell says:

    Please sent in the following format:
    1 Pitlick
    2 Tippett
    3 Yes. Hamonic.
    4 No
    5 Broissoit
    6 0
    7 8 * $10
    8 8 * $7
    9 Hamonic, Reinhart
    10 Williams
    11 Yes
    12 2

  25. jtblack says:

    If Neal is chosen by LV; would he be a worthy target for Edm? Volume shooter with size .. 29 years old, probably has 2 or 3 decent years in him …

  26. Lowetide says:

    jtblack: I hope for LT we see some action (For us all). I do think the action will come after the expansion draft, including the entry draft .. but no more than usual …

    Haha. Well I’ve cleaned up pretty much all of the draft stuff and have only three primary RE’s to go. So, this quiet week is definitely helping me.

  27. jtblack says:

    Lowetide,

    Bahahaha. nothing wrong with some Zen time …

    This on Tolvanen:

    Draft year USHLers to Avg min 1 Point/GP 4 SOG/GP: Schwartz, Bellows, Connor, Larkin, Boeser, Keller, Tolvanen…Pacioretty & Okposo just missed

    — Zac Urback (@Zac_Urback) April 16, 2017″

  28. StixMalone says:

    So we signed these players for Bakersfield. Will the coaches use them properly and develop them better than they did last season???????

  29. 106 and 106 says:

    “Fly Like An Eagle!”

    Does this remind anyone else instantly of Space Jam?

  30. Thinker says:

    How in the heck is Russel hearing offers rn? Maybe LV signs him and we lose nobody in expansion.

  31. OilSafety says:

    Kinger

    1) Which Oil player will Vegas select?:
    2) Who is our first pick in the Entry Draft?
    3) Does Ebs get moved? (bonus if you pick for who)
    4) Does RNH get moved (bonus if you pick for who)
    5) Who is our back-up G on game 1?
    6) Total $ amount/years for Russell (0 is an answer)
    7) Total $ amount/years of McDavid’s contract?
    8) Total $ amount/years of Drai’s contract?
    9) Which 2 D dress with Larsson/Klef/Nurse/Benning on game 1?
    10) Biggest off-season F acquired in terms of salary?:
    11) Is Jessie playing in NHL game 1?
    12) How many roster trades does Chia make?

    1 Pouliot (after Chai throws in a bonus)
    2 Filip Chytil (trade down)
    3 Yes – Hominic (not straight up)
    4 No
    5 Brossoit
    6 0
    7 5*8 (it pains me to say it, but I think he wants to play for the leafs in his prime too hence the term and discount)
    8 8*6.5
    9 Hominic / Campbell
    10 Hanzal
    11 Nope
    12 1 trade -ebs for Hominic

  32. misfit says:

    magneto: NHL is trying to make sure that none of the trades involving Vegas get leaked

    Pierre LeBrun‏Verified account @PierreVLeBrun2h2 hours ago
    Replying to @PierreVLeBrun
    and part of the message from the NHL to GMs was to make sure NOT to leak any trades made with Vegas to media ahead of big June 21 reveal…

    Honestly, I don’t think that’s going to hurt the news cycle much. Most of the interesting deals leading up to the expansion draft would be between other teams trying to get value for their top players (defensemen mostly) instead of having to lose them To LV for nothing. And I expect a lot of that to happen (I certainly would).

    Any trades with Vegas would likely be a draft pick or prospect to LV for them to either take someone specifically or to not take a certain player from their list. But all the big names would fall outside of the “Trades with Vegas stay in Vegas” mandate from the league.

  33. Shane says:

    106 and 106:
    “Fly Like An Eagle!”

    Does this remind anyone else instantly of Space Jam?

    Yes! Yes it does

  34. jtblack says:

    misfit,

    +1

  35. misfit says:

    Thinker:
    How in the heck is Russel hearing offers rn? Maybe LV signs him and we lose nobody in expansion.

    That’s been my hope as well.

    I also think that might be why the Ducks didn’t have to ask Bieksa to waive. Maybe they signed Bernier or something.

  36. Ribs says:

    If it isn’t in your head already…. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uK0pn4UmS-0

  37. Rondo says:

    OilSafety,

    I could see Oilers taking Filip Chytil. Not sure how far down they would go. I’m sure they have 2 or 3 players they hope won’t be gone at #22 and then they have players they think that will be around.

    Apparently Chytil is now 6′ 2 and 190 lbs and has a father who is 6 ‘5 . He has a late birthday September.

  38. stush18 says:

    Hey Kinger
    1) pouliot with an incentive
    2) Popugaev (they trade down)
    3) no
    4) yes for bjugstad + pysyk
    5) brossoit
    6) 0
    7) 5 yrs/9.7 per
    8) 6yrs/6.8 per
    9) reinhart/pysyk
    10) sharp
    11) no
    12) 4- nuge, pouliot, and minor league deals

  39. OilSafety says:

    Rondo,

    Nice. With his speed and potential versatility in positions he could be a good fit for a Chai/Todd team.

  40. TO10801 says:

    Hypothetical: Would this blog explode if we signed Russell AND Girardi this offseason?

  41. magneto says:

    misfit,

    Well it’s already at 3 possible deals, so that is three less things we can talk about.

  42. Westchester Oil says:

    Ducey:
    http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/hockey/nhl/edmonton-oilers/edmonton-oilers-kelly-buchberger-new-york-islanders-coach-doug-weight

    Updates from Matheson.

    Bucky will coach with NYI.
    Eatu and Beck gone.
    Pochiro unlikely to come back. Samuelson had some issues in Bak last year. Sounds like he is done too.
    Comment from a scout that Parker Foo might be a late round draft pick. He is 19. Better than Spencer at same age.

    Perhaps that is what Spencer is trying waiting on. Perhaps the Oilers take little brother in the 5th and get a signed Spencer too. 2 for 1!

    I think you meant ‘2 Foo 1’

  43. JDI says:

    The chances of another team outbidding the Oilers for Russell have dropped in half this morning.

    Either that, or the chances of the Oilers signing Girardi have doubled.

    #beveryafraid

  44. TO10801 says:

    JDI:
    The chances of another team outbidding the Oilers for Russell have dropped in half this morning.

    Either that, or the chances of the Oilers signing Girardi have doubled.

    #beveryafraid

    I can honestly see the Girardi thing happening. He’s a RHD, probably cheaper than Russell and will be in the spot Russell had last year. I bet our D is going to look like:

    Klef-Larsson
    Nurse-Girardi
    XXXX- Benning

    Then Sekera can come back and play with Girardi. I see the narrative from MSM, “Girardi has helped elevate Sekera’s game, and teammates love him”.

  45. jjmclean says:

    1) Which Oil player will Vegas select?:
    2) Who is our first pick in the Entry Draft?
    3) Does Ebs get moved? (bonus if you pick for who)
    4) Does RNH get moved (bonus if you pick for who)
    5) Who is our back-up G on game 1?
    6) Total $ amount/years for Russell (0 is an answer)
    7) Total $ amount/years of McDavid’s contract?
    8) Total $ amount/years of Drai’s contract?
    9) Which 2 D dress with Larsson/Klef/Nurse/Benning on game 1?
    10) Biggest off-season F acquired in terms of salary?:
    11) Is Jessie playing in NHL game 1?
    12) How many roster trades does Chia make?

    1 Pouliot (bonus thrown in)
    2 Rasmussan
    3 No
    4 No
    5 Brossoit
    6 0
    7 5*9.7
    8 6*6.5
    9 Reinhart/Petrovic
    10 Vrbata
    11 No
    12 2

  46. JDI says:

    Sail on Bucky!

    Bruce McCurdy Retweeted
    Edmonton Journal‏Verified account @edmontonjournal 15m15 minutes ago

    Oilers’ Kelly Buchberger off to the Islanders to coach with ex-teammate Doug Weight http://ow.ly/pHNO30cANV6

    Good opportunity for him with Weight.

  47. JDI says:

    @TO10801

    “Girardi has helped elevate Sekera’s game, and teammates love him”.

    Meanwhile, the ‘what’s wrong with Nurse’ narrative spins out of control.

  48. N64 says:

    TO10801: I think the trades will come Friday night/ Saturday morning. Teams are going to do everything they can to make a deal with Vegas to stay away from player X. If that fails, then the team will look at the best offer they have received for the player.

    Agreed. Moritorium will block news of any Vegas deals but deals to bypass Vegas should break then.

    LT are you doing SSE this Saturday? If not every last deal should break at noon 😉

  49. TO10801 says:

    Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie 2m2 minutes ago
    More
    By no means is it assured Galchenyuk will be traded, but MTL needs help at centre and it’s become clear MTL doesn’t view AG as a centre.

    Nuge could work one would think, although BM is talking about Stepan too. I would prefer RNH if I were MTL

  50. TO10801 says:

    JDI:
    @TO10801

    “Girardi has helped elevate Sekera’s game, and teammates love him”.

    Meanwhile, the ‘what’s wrong with Nurse’ narrative spins out of control.

    Haha yes! I missed that one. Nurse-Girardi should be rocking about a 44% corsi for the first half the season.

  51. JDI says:

    Woodguy‏ @Woodguy55 15 Mar 2016

    @NMercad Thought of you when trying to find RHD for EDM my metric table rates Girardi as worst 2nd pair RHD in NHL

    Note the date of that tweet.

    https://t.co/yqwqOO4c6Q

  52. Oddspell says:

    With the news that Preds are likely going 8+1, it got me wondering about Jarnkrok. If Jarnkrok is exposed and Vegas takes him, does he become an Oilers target? Younger RH 3C at $2M AAV for five more years.

  53. rickithebear says:

    We Know that the HS SH defence establishes a D pairs save% mean value for a Goalie.
    With a range of:
    worst HD Defence:
    .902 Save% mean
    Average HD Defence
    .916 Save% mean
    Best HD Defence
    .930 Save% mean
    Then the goalie performs around that mean.

    When you look at each individual side of a Dpairs Hd area. We can see HD penetration rates per d man’s side.

    A shot suppression Dman with high repeatability has a lesser attack rate to their side.
    and
    has Hd rates reflective of their D partner.

    A elite HD dman can have their SA rates go up and HD sh60 rates increase relative to forwards played with. As well has Have EVGA affected by Partners HD performance.
    Larsson experienced a
    14.2% increase in CA60
    16.2% increase in SA60
    .75 GoalDif/60 increase

    Klefbom experienced a
    2.3% increase in CA60
    2.8% increase in SA60
    .77 GoalDif/60 decrease

    Klefbom dragged down other dmens perfomances.
    By affecting their HDSH rates.

    While Larsson W/ Russell
    Larsson experienced a
    10.6% increase in CA60
    16.2% increase in SA60
    .30 GoalDif/60 increase

    So our best pairs last year.

    Davidson- Benning 1.19 EVGA60
    Sekera – Russell 1.29
    Russell – Larsson 1.83
    Russell – Benning 2.05
    Nurse – Davidson 2.14
    Klefbom – Larsson 2.27
    Klefbom – Benning 2.28
    Nurse – Benning 2.44
    Sekera – Benning 2.35
    Klefbom – Russell 2.68
    Nurse – Larsson 3.77
    Davidson – Petry 4.24

    What do Larsson and Sekera’s best results have in common?

    Save us from ourselves!
    Beauty!

  54. Cassandra says:

    TO10801:
    Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie2m2 minutes ago
    MoreBy no means is it assured Galchenyuk will be traded, but MTL needs help at centre and it’s become clear MTL doesn’t view AG as a centre.

    Nuge could work one would think, although BM is talking about Stepan too. I would prefer RNH if I were MTL

    Bergeron is a truly awful general manager to be trading Galchenyuk for either player. Galchenyuk is younger, cheaper, and is (arguably) better. This is trading Zibanajad for Brassard bad.

    That being said, there is no way Bergeron chooses RNH over Stepan.

  55. russ99 says:

    If we’re outbid on Russell, I’ll be happy for him getting his big contract.

    But we simply cannot replace him with a pylon in the defensive zone who moves pucks, nor can we replace him with Reinhart, Fayne or another kid.

    The goal is to improve towards the Cup, not backslide.

    Without defensive strengthening to replace Sekera out and Russell gone, Talbot will need to eat a lot more rubber and let more in the 15 or so minutes a night those two locked down the fort.

  56. TO10801 says:

    Cassandra: Bergeron is a truly awful general manager to be trading Galchenyuk for either player.Galchenyuk is younger, cheaper, and is (arguably) better. This is trading Zibanajad for Brassard bad.

    That being said, there is no way Bergeron chooses RNH over Stepan.

    Would be crazy for Bergevin to choose Stepan over RNH. Honestly, I think they will go big and get Duchene.

  57. Rondo says:

    Bob Stauffer‏Verified account @Bob_Stauffer 43m43 minutes ago
    More
    For those asking about a Montreal rumour of Galchenyuk and #1 for RNH, plus.
    I don’t see the Oilers being interested at this time

  58. rickithebear says:

    Oddspell:
    With the news that Preds are likely going 8+1, it got me wondering about Jarnkrok. If Vegas takes Jarnkrok, does he become an Oilers target? Younger RH 3C at $2M AAV for five more years.

    8 + 1
    Nash even goal differential for Forwards in playoffs.
    Forsberg W 22gm +14 (22) 5yr @ 6M; 9G 16P; Reg Sn 82gm 31G 58P -4
    Johansen C (24) 14gm +12 RFA (Arb); 3G 13P; 82gm 14g 61P +1
    Sissons C (23) +7 2y @ .625; 6G 12P; 58gm 8G 10P +11
    Arvidson RW (24) +3 RFA (Arb); 3g 13P; 80gm 31g 61P +16
    Watson LW (25) +3 RFA (arb); 4G 9P; 77gm 5g17p +14
    Jarnkrok C (25) 21gm -2 5yr @ 2M 2g 7P; 81gm 15g 31P -1
    —————————-
    Neal LW (29) 22gm -8 1yr @ 5M; 70gm 23G 41p -10
    which 4 forwards?

    Subban (28) 5yr @ 9M
    Josi (27) 3yr @ 4M
    Ekholm (27) 5yr @ 3.75M
    Ellis (26) 2yr @ 2.5M

    Rinne (34) 2yr @ 7M

  59. sliderule says:

    The oilers love Nuge

    Character guy who is a role model for the new young oiler stars

  60. Lowetide says:

    sliderule:
    The oilers love Nuge

    Character guy who is a role model for the new young oiler stars

    I’m a big fan of the Nuge, but worry about the return on Eberle. Do you:

    1. Move no one if it isn’t there?
    2. Trade Eberle for less than full value?
    3. Discuss dealing Nuge, JP or No. 22 overall instead?

  61. TO10801 says:

    Lowetide: I’m a big fan of the Nuge, but worry about the return on Eberle. Do you:

    1. Move no one if it isn’t there?
    2. Trade Eberle for less than full value?
    3. Discuss dealing Nuge, JP or No.22 overall instead?

    LT,

    I think discussing JP is worth it pre-expansion, as his value should be ridiculously high since he would not need to be protected. I think if you are going big-game hunting he is the piece you would need to use. Personally, I would trade JP as part of a package for Doughty or Pietrangelo, but not for lesser options.

    My question is, are you concerned PC grabs Girardi, keeps everyone else and stands pat if the value is not there for Eberle or RNH?

  62. Lowetide says:

    TO10801: LT,

    I think discussing JP is worth it pre-expansion, as his value should be ridiculously high since he would not need to be protected. I think if you are going big-game hunting he is the piece you would need to use. Personally, I would trade JP as part of a package for Doughty or Pietrangelo, but not for lesser options.

    My question is, are you concerned PC grabs Girardi, keeps everyone else and stands pat if the value is not there for Eberle or RNH?

    No. The Oilers need more than one defenseman and have to offload one of those $6 million deals. Chiarelli is aggressive, I think we’ll see several moves to address the roster.

  63. adamjames says:

    TO10801,

    I don’t know what opinion Chiarelli has of Girardi, but you gotta assume he would be familiar from his Boston days. He’s been a turnstile for a while now. Surely Girardi can’t be high on his list if he watched him get walked by Boston forwards for years.

  64. rickithebear says:

    TO10801:
    Bob McKenzie‏Verified account @TSNBobMcKenzie2m2 minutes ago
    MoreBy no means is it assured Galchenyuk will be traded, but MTL needs help at centre and it’s become clear MTL doesn’t view AG as a centre.

    Nuge could work one would think, although BM is talking about Stepan too. I would prefer RNH if I were MTL

    Centers who have run PvP the last 2 years.
    Minimum 2 FO per gm
    In order of toughest comp faced:
    Stepan
    153gm 26EG 72EP; 46.9 FO%
    Kesler
    161gm 29EG 75EP; 57.9 FO%
    Couturier
    129gm 23EG 62EP; 51.8 FO%
    Toews
    152gm 33 EG 83EP; 56.7 FO%
    Zajac
    154gm 13EG 53EP; 53.2 FO%
    Bergeron
    159gm 32 EG 73EP; 58.5 FO%
    O’ rielly
    143gm 23EG 66EP; 57.3 FO%
    RNH
    137gm 21EG 55EP; 44.2 FO%
    Trochek
    158gm 41 EG 80 EP; 49.9 FO%
    Crosby
    155gm 56 EG 125 EP; 50.0 FO%
    Thorton
    161gm xxEG 84EP; 51.9 FO%
    Pageau
    164gm 23EG 63EP; 53.4 FO%
    J. Staal
    157gm 25EG 72EP; 58.4 FO%
    Kadri
    158gm 33 EG 75EP; 48.6 FO%
    Nielson
    160gm 22EG 54EP; 52.0 FO%
    Carter
    159gm 40 EG 91EP; 50.4 FO%
    Dubinsky
    155gm 22EG 74EP; 52.2 FO%
    Backlund
    163gm 30EG 68EP; 47.7 FO%
    Backstrom
    157gm 32EG 91EP; 50.0 FO%
    Duchene
    153gm 36 EG 75EP; 60.7 FO%
    Koivu
    162gm 22EG 70EP; 55.7 FO%

  65. TO10801 says:

    Lowetide: No. The Oilers need more than one defenseman and have to offload one of those $6 million deals. Chiarelli is aggressive, I think we’ll see several moves to address the roster.

    Yeah I hope so. It will be far more interesting to see how PC addresses the D if/when Russell decides to sign elsewhere.

  66. Cassandra says:

    Rondo:
    Bob Stauffer‏Verified account @Bob_Stauffer43m43 minutes ago
    MoreFor those asking about a Montreal rumour of Galchenyuk and #1 for RNH, plus.
    I don’t see the Oilers being interested at this time

    This is incredible if true. Galchenyuk + a first round pick is so much more than what RNH is worth.

  67. McNuge93 says:

    adamjames:
    TO10801,

    I don’t know what opinion Chiarelli has of Girardi, but you gotta assume he would be familiar from his Boston days. He’s been a turnstile for a while now. Surely Girardi can’t be high on his list if he watched him get walked by Boston forwards for years.

    Girardi is no better than Fayne so it makes no sense to sign him. If they are that desperate just utiilize Fayne for this year and either resign Russell or upgrade the 2RD.

  68. Doug McLachlan says:

    Cassandra,

    “Trust No One.”

    Everyone lies around Trade Deadline day and this is no different.

    This sounds more like some speculation by Montreal media types who have run out of PK stories to write for the next few months. That said, Chia and MB have some history from the Subban/Dria discussions last year so there may be more than just smoke here. If so, Stauffer’s role may be to drive up the price.

    Same thing with the Russell is being chased by multiple teams story. Obviously he can’t negotiate with anyone other than the Oilers (unless they have given him permission to talk – which I suppose is possible). Creating a bidding war could help Chia get a later pick to send over his exclusive negotiation rights before July 1st.

    If Russell is unlikely to be part of the #Oilers’ long-term plans, and shouldn’t we all be please to hear that, then getting an asset back at this point would be fantastic work by Chia, no?

  69. JDI says:

    So now we’re vilifying Chia because he hasn’t traded his tough-minutes center for a sheltered center (with a 42.7 FO%), based on mere internet speculation?

    🙄

  70. Pouzar says:

    JDI:
    So now we’re vilifying Chia because he hasn’t traded his tough-minutes center for a sheltered center (with a 42.7 FO%), based on mere internet speculation?

    Sweet Mother of Mary I wonder sometimes….

  71. Doug McLachlan says:

    JDI,

    All I’m saying is what has Chia done lately, and by lately I mean since my last post at 2:13pm.

    I’ll hang up and listen.

  72. Diablo says:

    People are assuming that Galchenyuk is going to sign for cheap – if that was the case then Montreal would have already extended him. His agent is probably looking for 5-6 million, or he’ll pull the same crap as O’Reilly did to get to UFA sooner. I really doubt that trading for Galchenyuk is going to result in substantial cap savings.

    Glad to see Stauffer state that the Oilers are not interested – absolutely terrible idea to trade RNH. Don’t misunderstand me – unlike LT I do not think that RNH is the second coming of Keon or Datsyuk. But Galchenyuk is a LH winger – do not trade centres for wingers.

  73. TO10801 says:

    Diablo:
    People are assuming that Galchenyuk is going to sign for cheap – if that was the case then Montreal would have already extended him. His agent is probably looking for 5-6 million, or he’ll pull the same crap as O’Reilly did to get to UFA sooner. I really doubt that trading for Galchenyuk is going to result in substantial cap savings.

    Glad to see Stauffer state that the Oilers are not interested – absolutely terrible idea to trade RNH. Don’t misunderstand me – unlike LT I do not think that RNH is the second coming of Keon or Datsyuk. But Galchenyuk is a LH winger – do not trade centres for wingers.

    This is why I think Eberle will be traded. TMac loved his Cs in SJ and it would seem likely PC will be adding more. If you trade RNH you take all the flexibility out of the roster, since you would need a free agent 3C and Drai wouldn’t be able to play RW.

  74. Visually better says:

    rumours surrounding Drouin for Galchenyuk now according to Conor Mckenna

  75. Lowetide says:

    JDI:
    So now we’re vilifying Chia because he hasn’t traded his tough-minutes center for a sheltered center (with a 42.7 FO%), based on mere internet speculation?

    🙄

    I’m still with the George Harrison of the team!

  76. leadfarmer says:

    Lowetide: I’m still with the George Harrison of the team!

    I think he’s Yoko Ono in some people’s eyes

  77. leadfarmer says:

    Visually better,

    Who is also drawing parallels between Galchenyuck and Seguin for what’s it’s worth

  78. geowal says:

    So much for the theory Benson would appear in today’s article.
    Also…Betker: “Valley Fever”?

  79. rickithebear says:

    Centers:
    If we look at cumulative totals
    20 centers were top 30 EVG and EVP

    top 1 in both
    Crosby ( 29) 7 @ 8.7M
    155gm
    56 EVG .361 EVGPG;
    125 EVP .806 EVPPG

    top 3 in Both
    Schiefle (24) 7 @ 6.125M
    150gm
    47 EVG .313 EVGPG
    115 EVP .767 EVPPG

    Top 6 in both
    Pavelski (32) 2 @ 6m
    163gm
    47 EVG .288 EVGPG
    95 EVP .583 EVPPG

    Tavares (26) 1 @ 5.5M
    155gm
    46 EVG .297 EVGPG
    97EVP .626 EVPPG

    top 10 in both: in order of Avg rank down
    Mcdavid (20) ELC 1 @ 3.775- RFA
    127gm
    39EVG .308 EVGPG
    105 EVP .827 EVPPG

    Seguin (25) 2 @ 5.75M
    154gm
    41 EVG .266 EVGPG
    92 EVP .597 EVPPG

    Carter (32) 5 @ 5.272M
    159gm
    40 EVG .252 EVGPG
    91 EVP .572 EVPPG

    top 15 in Both
    Monohan (22) 6 @ 6.375M
    163gm
    38 EVG .233 EVGPG
    83 EVP .509 EVPPG

    top 20 in Both
    Draisatl (21) RFA
    154gm
    33 EVG .214 EVGPG
    92 EVP .597 EVPPG

    Trochek (23) 5 @ 4.75M
    158gm
    41 EVG .259 EVGPG
    80 EVP .506 EVPPG

    Malkin (30) 5 @ 9.5M
    119gm
    38 EVG .235 EVGPG
    80 EVP .672 EVPPG

    Barkov (21) 5 @ 5.9M
    127gm
    36 EVG .283 EVGPG
    79 EVP .622 EVPPG

    Toews (29) 6 @ 10.5M
    152gm
    33 EVG .217 EVGPG
    83 EVP .546 EVPPG

    E. Staal (32) 2 @ 3.5M
    165gm
    35 EVG .212 EVGPG
    79 EVP .479 EVPPG

    Top 25 in both:
    Backstrom (29) 3 @ 6.7M
    157gm
    32 EVG .204 EVGPG
    91 EVP .578 EVPPG

    Kadri (26) 5 @ 4.5M
    158gm
    33 EVG .209 EVGPG
    75 EVP .475 EVGPG

    Duchene (26) 2 @ 6M
    153gm
    36 EVG .235 EVGPG
    75 EVP .490 EVPPG

    Top 30 in Both:
    Kuznetsov (25) RFA (arb)
    164gm
    31 EVG .189 EVGPG
    104 EVP .634 EVPPG

    B. Nelson (25) 1 @ 2.5M
    162gm
    42 EVG .259 EVGPG
    73 EVP .451 EVPPG

    Bergeron (31) 5 @ 6.875M
    159gm
    32EVG .201 EVGPG
    73 EVP .459 EVPPG

  80. rickithebear says:

    RW cumulative total last 2 seasons
    top 30 EVg and EVP

    Top 3 in both
    P. Kane #2 56 EVG; #1 135 EVp
    Tarsenko #1 58 EVg; #3 103 EVP

    top 6 in Both
    Kucherov #4 44 EVG; #4 94 EVP
    Wheeler #6 40 EVG; #2 107 EVP

    Top 10 in Both
    Kessel #10 37 EVG; #8 82 EVP
    J. Williams #9 38 EVG; #10 80 EVP

    top 15 in Both
    Atkinson #5 43 EVG; #11 79 EVP
    Neal #6 40 EVG; #15 72 EVP
    Oshie #6 40 EVG; #12 74 EVP
    Niederietter #13 35 EVG; #9 81 EVP
    Silverberg #13 34 EVG; #13 73 EVP
    Eberle #15 34 EVG; 313 73 EVp

    Top 20 in both
    Jagr #19 30 EVG; #5 88 EVP
    Zucarello #20 29 EVG; #5 88 EVP
    Stone #17 33 EVG; #7 83 EVP
    Pastarnak #8 39 EVG; #17 71 EVP
    Perry #11 36 EVG; #17 71 EVP
    Stempniak #20 29 EVG; #15 72 EVP

    top 25 in both
    Simmonds #18 32 EVG; #23 66 EVP
    Backes #23 28 EVG; #25 63 EVP
    R. Smith #23 28 EVG; #25 63 EVP

    top 30 in both
    Okposo #27 27 EVG; #25 63 EVP
    Ryan #27 27 EVG; #29 60 EVP

  81. JDI says:

    @LT

    My guitar gently weeps as well.

  82. Primetime says:

    I still think it’s possible that the Oil trade RNH to Vegas for a group of players that fills their holes in a “win now” mentality move.

    They won’t get value trying to trade to another team due to contract and perceived value. However Vegas, who would love a franchise young centre to start with, could give the Oil their choice of a second pair defence man, a solid 3rd line C and maybe even a prospect for RNH. Vegas will have ample 2nd pairing D and 3rd line centres to chose from, but no top 6 centres. The Oil could name their picks from the 29 other unprotected list and make up the exact package they want….like the 18 items or less Chinese Food Buffet!!!

    Would allow Oil to ice a balanced team and within budget….

  83. Jaxon says:

    geowal:
    So much for the theory Benson would appear in today’s article.
    Also…Betker:“Valley Fever”?

    There must be a third installment. They still haven’t discussed Benson, Paigin, Gambardella, Starrett​, Berglund, Platzer and others. Paigin and Benson have some of the highest potential ceilings of all prospects so it makes little sense not to discuss them.

  84. Jaxon says:

    http://www.mynhldraft.com/2017-draft/mock-draft/

    This is promising. I thought Vesalainen was going to go higher but he is dropped back down to #22. Right handed left wing who plays right wing as well. Big, fast, played with Puljujarvi and Raspanen on Finnish team. He would be a great addition at 22. Some lists have had him as high as 9th. I out some faith in My NHL Draft because they take into account all major scouting lists with a slight nod to team need. I believe they also weigh the scouting lists based on historical accuracy in previous drafts.

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