HARVEST MOON 2017

We entered the weekend under the impression the Edmonton Oilers would draft forwards and focus on skill. The third draft with Peter Chiarelli and Bob Green at the helm (with Keith Gretzky now firmly ensconced) had the usual third-round meandering we’ve come to expect from Edmonton (going back decades) but the expectations were finally satisfied.

LOWETIDE PROJECTED WEEKEND (KISS OF DEATH)

  • First Round: No. 22 overall—L Eeli Tolvanen, Sioux City Musketeers (USHL).
  • Third Round: No. 82 overall—LD Mario Ferraro, Des Moines (USHL). 
  • Third Round: No. 84 overall—RC Tyler Steenbergen, Swift Current Broncos (WHL).
  • Fourth Round: No. 115 overall—L Macauley Carson, Sudbury Wolves (OHL).
  • Fifth Round: No. 126 overall—R Aatu Luusuaniemi, Karpat (Jr. Sm-Liiga).
  • Fifth Round: No. 146 overall—G Matt Villalta, SSM Greyhounds (OHL).
  • Sixth Round: No. 177 overall—LC Jacob Peterson, Frolunda (SuperElit).
  • Seventh Round: No. 208 overall—F Andrey Altybarmakyan, St.Petersburg (MHL).

This is a fun thing I do on Friday morning, guess the list and see if we can find a match. Two years ago I got two right (McDavid, Bear) and one correct last season (Filip Berglund) but got shutout this time. I did have the list surrounded though (on my various rankings):

  • No. 11 overall—R Kailer Yamamoto, Spokane Chiefs (WHL)
  • No. 52 overall—L Ostap Safin, Sparta Praha (Cze).
  • No. 133 overall—LD Dmitri Samorukov, Guelph (OHL). 
  • No. 12 goalie list—G Stuart Skinner, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL)
  • No. 25 WHL list—G Stuart Skinner, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL)
  • No. 45 USA list— RD Phil Kemp, USNDTP (USHL).

HARVEST MOON 2017

  • No. 22 overall: R Kailer Yamamoto, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). One of the best skill players in the draft, boxcars throughout his WHL career show impressive skill and a great deal of progress. Size is going to be an issue for him as he enters pro hockey in 2018 or 2019 fall, but outstanding speed and skill should take him a long way if Yamamoto can stay healthy. I had him just outside the top 10 overall and consider this pick to be the latest in a string (Leon, 97, JP, Yamamoto) of brilliant/lucky selections.
  • No. 78 overall: G Stuart Skinner, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). In listening to Bob Green in his media avail, it’s pretty clear the club had targeted this goalie and were willing to give up an extra pick to get him. He posted a .905SP in the regular season and .916SP in the playoffs. Skinner had a great .920SP a year ago, and this may be a case of (like Dylan Wells) getting better value due to a goalie’s performance in his draft year. The last time we saw this kind of verbal on an Oilers goalie draft pick was Devan Dubnyk. The numbers don’t imply that kind of player but we’ll see how things turn out.
  • No. 84 overall: LD Dmitri Samorukov, Guelph Storm (OHL). A big mobile defender who struggled to find consistency this year, he is regarded as a solid two-way prospect. Samorukov turned a corner mid-year and appears to be a more substantial player than his numbers imply. Brock Otten spent some time with me today discussing him and believes he has second-round talent.
  • No. 115 overall: R Ostap Safin, Sparta Praha (Czech). I’m a fan of this selection and had him in my second round (No. 52) for the 2017 draft. One of three picks today that I think fans can be genuinely pleased over. Corey PronmanAt 6-foot-5, he has very good feet for a big man, with an easy first few steps. He handles the puck fine, can make the occasional creative play or distribution, possesses an accurate wrist shot and is able to finish chances well. However, he’s not going to be a primary playmaker on his line as a pro. His physical play is inconsistent.
  • No. 146 overall: L Kirill Maksimov, Niagara Ice Dogs (OHL). Name is also spelled Maximov so don’t be fooled in that regard. Like Safin, this is a player who should be considered as a legit offensive prospect. An “honorable mention” on Bob McKenzie’s list, the industry seems to think he is among the 100 best prospects in this draft. Size, speed, skill. The only LW chosen on the day, perhaps giving us a clue about Tyler Benson’s health. Maksimov scored 19 goals in his final 33 games this season, perhaps he spiked in a timely fashion.
  • No. 177 overall: C Skyler Brind’Amour, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). The only center taken this weekend by Edmonton, he has a nice range of skills. In a draft that keeps me reminding me of last year, I would say his skills are comparable to Aapeli Rasanen. Steve Kournianos:  Skyler is a strong-skating forward who is competent in all three zones. Brind’amour is a cerebral player who hustles, competes and displays occasional periods of dominance. He doesn’t have breakaway speed but is difficult to slow down once he reaches top speed.”
  • No. 208 overall: RHD Phil Kemp, U.S. National Development Team (USHL). When in doubt about a draft, never a bad idea to take kids out of this program and Peter Chiarelli does it frequently. He is a young (1999) man with a defensive skill set, 6.03 and 201. Good skater, defense first, blocks a lot of shots. I’ve learned from Caleb Jones not to trust boxcars from the USHL, numbers are dependent on usage and this fellow could have some offense we don’t know about at this time.

The Oilers delivered less talent potential this year than in 2016, but that has a lot to do with the talent available and fewer selections. In fact, I’ll say PC and his group were more efficient this time, don’t see an eyebrow raising league anywhere as we saw with Matt Cairns a season ago. I love the fact Edmonton shopped in strong leages (OHL, WHL and USHL) twice.

For me, the Oilers hit a home run in the first round and got terrific value in Safin. The Skinner selection has them excited, I see a .920SP from 2015-16 and maybe there’s a story there. Samorukov and Maksimov have stories to tell and it will be fun to see if the positive trends continue. The National Team prospects have potential, that team is stacked with good players.

A reasonable bet for this draft? Yamamoto has a successful NHL career and one of Skinner or Safin make the grade and hang around for a time.

I’ll have the Top 20 list up first thing tomorrow morning and then we can get back to arguing about the roster. I hope you enjoyed this blog’s coverage of the draft, love sharing this part of the hockey calendar with you.

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83 Responses to "HARVEST MOON 2017"

  1. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Outstanding work as always, LT. you really put some of us pretenders in the shade, & I mean that in a good way. Top drawer coverage.

  2. Richard S.S. says:

    OK. A much smaller version of Connor McDavid. Only problem, smurfs always get hurt.

  3. unca miltie says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Outstanding work as always, LT. you really put some of us pretenders in the shade, & I mean that in a good way. Top drawer coverage.

    Agreed, thanks

  4. Halfwise says:

    LT I don’t post anymore but I am here every day reading your words carefully, then shaking my head at some of the comments below.

    Thank you for what you do. Thank you especially that you bring consistently impressive amounts of heart and brain to this corner of the interwebs.

  5. Ducey says:

    Love the draft coverage LT.

    I am happy with the picks. Should be one of the better top 20’s in some time. There are a lot of prospects bubbling under.

  6. Johnny Larue says:

    Halfwise:
    LT I don’t post anymore but I am here every day reading your words carefully, then shaking my head at some of the comments below.

    Thank you for what you do. Thank you especially that you bring consistently impressive amounts of heart and brain to this corner of the interwebs.

    Ditto great job listened to you on the radio today as much as I could it was very entertaining and informative.

  7. Ryan says:

    I’ve been waiting a long time to find a use for the word Lilliputian. Thank you, Mr Yamamoto.

  8. Merchant says:

    Thanks for the solid coverage LT, and thanks to all the commentators for filling it out, I enjoyed reading your thoughts as well.

    To all the old timey onion belt wearing commentators who left for their own reasons (like you halfwise) please come back!

  9. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Brilliant LT as always.

  10. Blackwolf says:

    And the best part of this draft… LT will have more players to track for us next season. Yeesh, last year was slim pickings.

  11. Bank Shot says:

    4 of the Oilers first 5 picks turn 19 around the start of the next season.

    I wonder if that is just a fluke, or if the Oilers are trying to get some young talent in the pro leagues as early as possible.

  12. BlueNoteNorth says:

    “An electric player with dynamic skating ability”

    “Plus skater, puck handler and passer”

    “Can come down the wing with speed one shift and quarterback a power play the next”

    5′ 8″

    Remind you of someone ?

    Martin St Louis
    1033 regular season points
    90 playoff points
    1 Stanley Cup
    1 Olympic Gold Medal
    2 Art Ross Trophies
    1 Hart Trophy

    One can dream

  13. Shizuka says:

    Don’t post very much at all anymore, but still reading your articles on a regular basis LT. No matter where we end up drafting, I, like you, find the drafts really interesting for some reason. Your diligent and steady groundwork, on even the most obscure of players at times, is really, really appreciated. Thank you LT = )

  14. Munny says:

    Echo of the kudos above. This weekend wouldn’t be anywhere near as special without you, LT and this blog.

  15. Ryan says:

    Halfwise:
    LT I don’t post anymore but I am here every day reading your words carefully, then shaking my head at some of the comments below.

    Thank you for what you do. Thank you especially that you bring consistently impressive amounts of heart and brain to this corner of the interwebs.

    The loss of Gmoney was a huge blow to the comments section. Then Woodguy…

    Those were my two favorite guys to banter with.

    I’m still here everyday, but don’t comment quite as often.

    Thank you as always Lowetide for your fine work. This place is still the greatest refuge from the banalities of everyday life.

  16. Glass says:

    Overall I’m happy with the draft, my only critique is that I think I’d rather keep the 5th we traded away and draft Alexander Chmelevski with it, who went in the 6th round to San Jose. I’d roll the dice on Skinner being available, and if he wasn’t there is still Zhukov and Scott.

  17. Rich M says:

    Thanks for all your work LT. What you do on the draft, your prospect rankings – and then the year by year tracking (as they progress towards 5 years) is worth every minute spent on your site.

    As are the POV’s. Last couple of days have seen a wide range of opinions – and a lot of stats to back both sides of the argument.

    Going to be interesting to see what Chia does next and if he brings anyone else in.

    Also, must admit I like referencing this and the Bob Father’s work because I’m also tracking Nashville and what they’ve been doing. Talk about a team that finds gems in any round.

    Let’s hope the Oil have done the same.

  18. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    Bank Shot,

    Good observation!

  19. Psyche says:

    Thank you LT. Wonderful work and greatly appreciated. NHL Draft day(s) are my favourite time of the year as a sports fan. You’ve been my go to source for complete coverage and info for over a decade. Cheers to another decade!

    Oilers selected a quality crop, for the most part. A bit of a walkabout in the 3rd round, but as you mentioned we’ve come to expect that from our beloved franchise.

    Looking forward to watching Yamamoto and Safin grow and develop over the next few years.

    Thanks again.

  20. Centre of attention says:

    Like this draft by the Oil. Bob Green and his team have done good work last 3 drafts.

    Just FYI Maximov players either wing and is listed as a RW on elite prospects. (shoots right as well).

    Dunno how much Bensons health actually related to the selection. Like the pick either way.

  21. DaveWatchesHockey says:

    Thanks LT. Great job as always.

    Dave.

  22. Chris says:

    As much as there are Johnny Gaudreau and Tyler Johnson’s to compare to Frodomoto, I would point out for the sake of balance that there is a graveyard full of would be hobbit-sized skill guys who haven’t cut it in the NHL. Nick Petan, Nigel Dawes and Gilbert Brule spring to mind as small guys who had illustrious junior careers but have been fringe NHLers.

  23. OilSafety says:

    I concur on the thanks for our host, and I too miss the threads filled with intellectually stimulating conversation about hockey, music, whisky, beer and Scarlett Johansson.

    This is still the best place on the Al Gore though.

    Here’s me making use of the Pay Pal button and lifting my bottle (big rock honey brown) to Alan

    GO OILERS

    that is all

  24. Centre of attention says:

    Here’s Maximov scoring a hat trick with 3 different types of goals. This was against the powerhouse Erie Otters none the less.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phDsS4Sb8QE

    Goal 1: Mid slot one-timer. Kid can shoot the puck.
    Goal 2: Tip in goal off a nice point shot. Big body sticks around the net & tough areas? Check.
    Goal 3: Wrap around where he bounces it off the goalies back and in. Shows great “stick-with-it-ness” on that play after a nice move by his teammate to set it up.

    This kid looks like he can score goals. The move to Niagra really helped him. Saginaw’s reputation for dragging offense down is well known. (Re: Niemelienen)

  25. Centre of attention says:

    Another hat trick by young Maximov, this time against Owen Sound:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BkK8-hLod0

    This set of goals really displays his shot better. His one timer looks money. Beats the goalie clean with a nice wrist shot too, circling high to lose coverage before cutting to the slot, getting the pass and ripping it.

    He sure knows how to find some quiet ice for such a big body.

    That’s two hat tricks for the kid within a week in March.

  26. haters says:

    Yup. Top notch coverage. Always a measured opinion, with sprinkles of opinions from credible scouts.

    Thanks LT

    Can’t wait till rookie camp.

  27. haters says:

    Chris:
    As much as there are Johnny Gaudreau and Tyler Johnson’s to compare to Frodomoto, I would point out for the sake of balance that there is a graveyard full of would be hobbit-sized skill guys who haven’t cut it in the NHL. Nick Petan, Nigel Dawes and Gilbert Brule spring to mind as smallguys who had illustrious junior careers but have been fringe NHLers.

    Bonsignor, Alex plante, Tuebert, and countless others say hi from the “good NHL size” scrap heap 🙂

  28. MacT's Neglected Helmet says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Outstanding work as always, LT. you really put some of us pretenders in the shade, & I mean that in a good way. Top drawer coverage.

    Agreed.

    Thanks for all you do LT. You make being an Oilers fan really fun. Truly mean it. We’re very lucky to have your writing and voice. It’s so fun to geek out over this stuff.

  29. Thinker says:

    Probably unfair for me to do, but I keep comparing Kailer to Debrincat, and he falls well short. I don’t think the kid makes it, but I’ll cheer for him. Pretty boring not having a second rounder this year.

  30. Centre of attention says:

    Thinker,

    Most scouts who’s work I read talk about how Kailer actually has better upside in pro due to elite skating. DeBrincat is small as well as not fast. DeBrincat is probably the better pure shooter between the two but we have seen how far Pulkkinen made it on shooting ability alone. Not very far.

  31. kooler says:

    So knowing a bunch of kids didn’t get selected by an NHL team…and assuming Oil can invite any of these kids to rookie camp now (correct?), so who should they invite?

  32. Lowetide says:

    kooler:
    So knowing a bunch of kids didn’t get selected by an NHL team…and assuming Oil can invite any of these kids to rookie camp now (correct?), sowho should they invite?

    Rookie camp? All of them, although the college kids probably can’t come because of NCAA rules.

  33. kooler says:

    Lowetide,

    Is it a rookie camp or called something else? Assuming other teams will do the same, which kids would you work hard on getting to camp?

  34. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The thing I like about this draft and this team is that each player chosen has the right skill set to be in the NHL. All that holds them back is their drive and luck.

    I have for many years said that outlier picks big or small that can’t skate are wasted picks. There is of course more, but each of the players in this draft can skate and has skill.

    One item that is noticeable is that they all seem to be able to shoot the puck, which has been a problem in drafts past. The Oilers had many guys that were not dangerous shooters, we called them muffin shots. With tight defense and large goalies the ability to beat them clean and also pick corners is huge, the Oilers have suffered at the hands of teams with those players for years.

    As for Yama, he is aggressive and plays in the blue paint. He apparently is one of the best skating and most skilled players in the draft. IF you are to pick a player his size, that is who you pick. I have not supported any previous players like this as a pick, but Yama is a good bet in this draft class.

    Fantastic draft given what was available to them. This management group is creative and sound at the draft.

  35. Thinker says:

    Centre of attention:
    Thinker,

    Most scouts who’s work I read talk about how Kailer actually has better upside in pro due to elite skating. DeBrincat is small as well as not fast. DeBrincat is probably the better pure shooter between the two but we have seen how far Pulkkinen made it on shooting ability alone. Not very far.

    Yeah, but moreso the high draft pick. I think there was value taking Debrincat later on, but not sure that same value is there at 22. Skill is supreme, but that size is a huge issue. Dealing with Nurse sized defenders will be one hell of a challenge.

  36. Lowetide says:

    kooler:
    Lowetide,

    Is it a rookie camp or called something else? Assuming other teams will do the same, which kids would you work hard on getting to camp?

    It’s called Orientation Camp and I would invite all of them.

  37. Chris says:

    haters: Bonsignor, Alex plante, Tuebert, and countless others say hi from the “good NHL size” scrap heap

    The kid would have gone Top 5 easy if he was 6’2 190 no problem. You can say big is no guarantee and I’ll happily concede it’s not. The difficulty with the players you mention has been skating, hockey sense and desire. The simple fact is in hockey a good big player is better than a good small player, hence the average size of an NHL player is over six feet tall. There is a reasonable concern as to whether our first rounder can succeed in the NHL at his diminutive stature. An even bigger concern is can he succeed over a longer term without sustaining significant injury. As it stands he’s fifty to sixty pounds lighter than your average NHL defenseman.

  38. Gerta Rauss says:

    Thanks for the draft coverage LT

    I like both days of the draft-I think we’re in a nice position wrt draft/prospect pipeline

    The NHL team still needs some work-interesting days ahead

  39. haters says:

    Chris,

    We wait .
    I think he’s a couple years away from any meaningful shot at making the team.
    Honestly after the first 3-5 picks it’s a crap shoot.

    Anyone find it kinda eerily simialiar to the 08 draft. Trade a player that until 2 years ago was a top point getting player for us, but also came in as undersized with huge questions regarding his ability to crack the lineup. Both drafted at 22 ?? Creepy…

  40. Munny says:

    Lowetide: It’s called Orientation Camp and I would invite all of them.

    All of the draft eligibles not drafted? Or at least I think that’s what he meant.

  41. Munny says:

    Gerta Rauss,

    Based on Chia verbal there’s another shoe to drop on D.

  42. Chris says:

    haters,

    It’s worth noting that Eberle towers over Yamamoto by 4 whole inches.

  43. MrEd says:

    Maroon-97-Strome
    Lucic-Leon-xxx
    Pouliot-RNH-xxx
    JJ-Letestu-Kassian

    Klef-Larson
    Russell-xxx
    Nurse-Benning

    Talbot
    xxx

    Leaves Slepy, Cags, JP, Pak, and LB to fill the holes.

  44. MrEd says:

    Getting 97 and Leon under contract before the free agency window opens seems like a big thing. No?

  45. Oilanderp says:

    Drafting two Skinners in the same draft and both goalies? I’m not sure what to think.

    My brother married a skinner from an island off the south coast of newfoundland (yes an island off an island). I travelled to his wedding.

    As we left the skiff there was some delay and I conversated with one of the bys workin on it.

    Whattyainfor? he asked. Wedding I replied. Yes by, which one?. Skinners, I said. Good Skinners or the bad ones?, he asked with a smile on his face. I had no idea. Sweet Christ what has my brother gotten into?

    Good ones or the bad ones? I phoned my brother. (This was in the time of phones).He didn’t know

    Good Skinners or bad man!?!?!

    He had no idea. This was a problem.

    Dont worry meeson, my brother in the alternate universe shouted over the waves 5 years previous in the future. We didn’t draft eeder skinner, he screamed with fiddles in the background.

    The shitty phone connection was lost, and as I arrived on the island no one had a clue who I was or why I was there, least of all me.

  46. hodgkins says:

    LT, as a guy living in the metro-Detroit area, I can tell you that you alone are the only reason that I am still an Oilers fan. A friend once asked me who I “trusted” in the media. I said “Lowetide”.

    Thank you for this and all that you do!

  47. doritogrande says:

    Great job on the coverage again this year LT. It’s my favourite time of the year also as it relates to the NHL calendar, love the stories of success and trying to project who can progress as a player.

    I’ll have my druthers about the Yamamoto pick, and will go on record to call Tolvanen as the better player 5 years out (I’d have taken Poehling over Yamamoto also, FWIW). Anything 3rd round and beyond is usually a crapshoot, so am happy with the haul we got. Everyone’s 6’2 or taller, and “skating an issue” hasn’t been mentioned about a single one of them. We’ll check back in with them 2022 and hope someone makes it (I too, will call Safin as the best bet to make it from the 3rd round or later).

    Looking forward to another year of trying to parse out the best remaining prospect when we’re picking in the 20s or 30s.

  48. MrEd says:

    Doan?

  49. Bruce McCurdy says:

    BlueNoteNorth:
    “An electric player with dynamic skating ability”

    “Plus skater, puck handler and passer”

    “Can come down the wing with speed one shift and quarterback a power play the next”

    5′ 8″

    Remind you of someone ?

    Martin St Louis
    1033 regular season points
    90 playoff points
    1 Stanley Cup
    1 Olympic Gold Medal
    2 Art Ross Trophies
    1 Hart Trophy

    One can dream

    1 World Cup of Hockey
    1 Spengler Cup

    I will never forget Marty’s Miracle Year of 2004, when he won his first Ross, the Hart, the Stanley Cup, the World Cup and the Spengler Cup in one calendar year. Oh yeah, & his wife had their first child. It was magical.

    EDIT: he even helped my team win in my keeper league that year! Everything he touched turned to goals &/or gold.

  50. Munny says:

    MrEd,

    Jagr?

  51. leadfarmer says:

    MrEd:
    Doan?

    I think 5 years out we will be talking how little value there was in this draft maybe not 1999 bad (minus Sedins) but bad

  52. MrEd says:

    “Hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies.” — Andy Dufresne

    The draft is sooo good. Cheers to all of the families. And our host.

  53. dustrock says:

    Thank you again LT.

    Re Yamamoto, can’t remember which site it was, but they said there are exactly 2 elite skaters in this draft: Makar and Yamamoto.

  54. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Yamamoto was the wild card. Skilled RW drafted #22 overall the day after Oilers traded their previous skilled RW who has been drafted at the same #22. Did you know Yamamoto scored more points than any other first-year-eligible player this year?

    Today Oilers drafted a goalie, a LD, a RD, a LW a RW and a C. All of them 6’2 or more.

    Btw EliteProspects lists Safin as a LHS RW & Maksimov as a RHS LW, but I’m totally cool with that. Versatile wingers are a good thing.

  55. bobinyvr says:

    It’s important that Lowetide always reminds us that these kids are kids and we (and the scouts) don’t know what we/they don’t know.

    I appreciate that choices have to be made and are informed by experience. All these kids and those not drafted deserve the opportunity to pursue their dreams and passions.

    Likely, most of these kids can skate, shoot, pass, etc better than us readers.

    Lowetide, thanks as always for your insight, balance and kindness.

  56. "Steve Smith" says:

    Ryan,

    Fill in a guy who hasn’t been around much – where’d those two go?

    As for me, I haven’t been around much because my interest in the team is waning. It’s funny – the Russell deal was bad, but Tambellini used to hand out contracts as bad or worse on a semi-weekly basis, and I always stuck around…full of rage, but around. And now that the Oilers are showing signs of being good, at long last, I just don’t seem to care anymore. Odd.

    Still had to stop by for the draft coverage, though – yer a marvel, LT.

  57. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Great post LT!

    – This is LT’s week, every year, and you nailed it: bless you LT for adding to my life.

    – So much all-world commentary, and great back and forth. Some have left, some have joined, but the quality of discourse remains the best, less rancor, less “smartest person in the room:

    – I’m with Ricki: we dodged a bullet with Harmonic: plus based on interview, he was only going to Calgary or the ‘Peg: a good guy: farmer, grew up Flames fan, and he wanted to come home

    – I don’t get the whole” I don’t comment as much, or I’m not into the team as much” this is the prime time next 10 years: embrace, share, post, comment, enjoy: non?

  58. MrEd says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    This year (draft wise) seems smart.

  59. Halfwise says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – Great post LT!

    – This is LT’s week, every year, and you nailed it: bless you LT for adding to my life.

    – So much all-world commentary, and great back and forth.Some have left, some have joined, but the quality of discourse remains the best, less rancor, less “smartest person in the room:

    – I don’t get the whole” I don’t comment as much, or I’m not into the team as much” this is the prime time next 10 years: embrace, share, post, comment, enjoy: non?

    For me, it’s not just here. I don’t spend anywhere near as much time as I used to on various forums and comment threads, FB and the like. Don’t have the energy for the inevitable “I’m right and you’re wrong, and stupid, and evil” that seems to break out all the time.

    I’ve been an Oiler fan since WHA days, season ticket holder for much of that period. Right now I love the team, don’t like how the NHL game is called these days, don’t think it’s value for entertainment $, love this blog, don’t like the tone of some commenters. I find I can enjoy LT’s insights more if I don’t engage in the comments.

  60. pocession charge says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – Great post LT!

    – This is LT’s week, every year, and you nailed it: bless you LT for adding to my life.

    – So much all-world commentary, and great back and forth.Some have left, some have joined, but the quality of discourse remains the best, less rancor, less “smartest person in the room:

    – I’m with Ricki: we dodged a bullet with Harmonic: plus based on interview, he was only going to Calgary or the ‘Peg: a good guy: farmer, grew up Flames fan, and he wanted to come home

    – I don’t get the whole” I don’t comment as much, or I’m not into the team as much” this is the prime time next 10 years: embrace, share, post, comment, enjoy: non?

    Good points Kinger! There’s still a bit of drama but I agree that the discussion is still good. I even enjoy the dissenting opinions even when I don’t agree with them. Can’t stand when posters come hear to announce that they don’t post much anymore — it seems so egotistical. It’s really all about LT and his enjoyable prose that keeps us coming back. It’s funny….I’ve never met him but he kind of feels like an uncle!

  61. pocession charge says:

    Chris:
    haters,

    It’s worth noting that Eberle towers over Yamamoto by 4 whole inches.

    If Eberle is 5’11”, I’m Godzilla.

  62. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    LT,

    You know I follow the hurricanes quite closely, and while I’m a big fan of the team I will happily tell you that it’s arguable that only maybe 2 or 3 dmen on their team would have even been in the top 6 on most other playoff clubs.

    That team was all Skinner and scoring. Skinner is already the all time franchise leader in wins (and probably saves).

    He is a good pick. What surprised me was that Bellerive wasn’t selected by anyone. Look at his numbers and realize he was playing 3C with plugs for wingers (Vandervlis was his most common lineman) and only on PP2. 30 goal guy with 0 help. Kid must be crushed.

  63. Halfwise says:

    pocession charge: .Can’t stand when posters come hear to announce that they don’t post much anymore — it seems so egotistical.

    And you are…who, exactly?

    It didn’t take long to illustrate my point about the inevitable “I’m right and you’re wrong, and stupid, and evil” that seems to break out all the time.”

    I’m out.

  64. pocession charge says:

    Halfwise: And you are…who, exactly?

    It didn’t take long to illustrate my point about the inevitable “I’m right and you’re wrong, and stupid, and evil” that seems to break out all the time.”

    I’m out.

    I’m just another poster I suppose. I never claimed to be more than that. If you gleaned ‘Im right and you’re wrong, and stupid, and evil’ from my post that’s your insecurity to deal with. I’m sure we’ll all be on here for months lamenting your loss Halfwise.

  65. "Steve Smith" says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    – I don’t get the whole” I don’t comment as much, or I’m not into the team as much” this is the prime time next 10 years: embrace, share, post, comment, enjoy: non?

    I admit (and admitted above) that it’s weird that I’d stick around for Lowe-Tambellini-MacTavish, and then check out once we have the best player in the world and some nice supporting pieces, and I don’t fully understand it myself. I just know that I no longer feel the attachment to the team that I had since 1990. I don’t care for Chiarelli as a GM, but I’ll certainly concede that he’s the best one we’ve had since Sather (though I maintain that if hockey teams didn’t require defencemen, MacTavish’s record as GM would be pretty decent). Maybe my problem is that when I saw Lowe-Tambellini-MacTavish making bad moves, they were keeping a basement-dweller as a basement-dweller, but when I see Chiarelli making bad moves, I see him squandering a golden opportunity, which is worse?

    Anyway, I wanted to make it clear that my absence around here is due to an indifference to the team, and not to the blog – LT remains an outstanding story-teller and the best part of being an Oilers fan during the dark ages.

    pocession charge,

    Bah.

  66. N64 says:

    pocession charge: . Can’t stand…. egotistical.

    Project much?

  67. pocession charge says:

    N64: Project much?

    Insinuate incorrectly much?

  68. Ancient Oilers Fan says:

    pocession charge: I’m just another poster I suppose.I never claimed to be more than that.If you gleaned ‘Im right and you’re wrong, and stupid, and evil’ from my post that’s your insecurity to deal with.I’m sure we’ll all be on here for months lamenting your loss Halfwise.

    I’m with Halfwise on this one.

    Your comment was personal not hockey related.

    It sure sounded derogatory to me.

    I’m not sure which is worse, being derogatory on purpose or being so inured to it that we don’t even realize we’re doing it.

    You are an excellent poster when you stick to hockey. Agree with a lot of what you said this weekend.

    Hope you take this as it was meant, that being mindful of how we appear does a lot to keep this a wonderful corner of the Ol’ Al Gore

  69. pocession charge says:

    "Steve Smith",

    Sorry Steve. I respect your criticism but it’s true. There is no need for people to post their intentions to leave or that they aren’t posting anymore because of the level of discourse on the comment thread. If people don’t like what they are reading, then stop reading. If you don’t want to comment, then stop commenting. If you don’t like the strippers, then don’t go. If people think this is egotistical for me to say, that is their prerogative. I’ll stand by it.

  70. pocession charge says:

    Ancient Oilers Fan: I’m with Halfwise on this one.

    Your comment was personal not hockey related.

    It sure sounded derogatory to me.

    I’m not sure which is worse, being derogatory on purpose or being so inured to it that we don’t even realize we’re doing it.

    You are an excellent poster when you stick to hockey. Agree with a lot of what you said this weekend.

    Hope you take this as it was meant, that being mindful of how we appear does a lot to keep this a wonderful corner of the Ol’ Al Gore

    My comment was not personal nor directed at a specific poster. It was a general statement to all those who need to make announcements. Some people took it personally.

    Go Oilers!

  71. Ancient Oilers Fan says:

    Ergo, if you don’t like people discussing their relationship with this blog, don’t read it or ignore it once you’ve read it.

  72. pocession charge says:

    Ancient Oilers Fan:
    Ergo, if you don’t like people discussing their relationship with this blog, don’t read it or ignore it once you’ve read it.

    I can see where this is going. I will choose to follow your advice. Goodnight sir!

  73. Ancient Oilers Fan says:

    Goodnight young man.

  74. Ribs says:

    I for one appreciate it when someone lets it be known that they won’t be posting as much any more. Not everyone is on the twitters and it’s nice to know that you guys haven’t fell down a well or anything!

  75. "Steve Smith" says:

    Ribs:
    I for one appreciate it when someone lets it be known that they won’t be posting as much any more. Not everyone is on the twitters and it’s nice to know that you guys haven’t fell down a well or anything!

    Oh, I forgot to mention: besides finding myself less interested in the Oilers these days, I also recently fell down a well.

  76. sliderule says:

    The oilers seem to be really relying on the u18 tournaments

    All but one of drafts either played in 2016 or 2017 U18

    That would seem to be a good strategy as playing against peers and ice time would equate.

    In almost every case the oiler picks had either outstanding tournament like Yamamoto or good ones like Safin who out scored teammate and first rounder Necas.

    The two Russians also had very good tournament with the defenceman running power play.

  77. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    "Steve Smith",

    – Thanks for sharing that Steve. I do miss some of the caracters that post here, your one of them! For me its a habit, part of my routine, and I look forward to it each and every day!

    – I’ve had posters tick me off in the past, but I try to keep it respectful fun, thoughtful. I like it here

    * lots of time for lots of drama:Therrien, Bylsma, Johnston, Sullivan. Craig Patrick (hero then zero), Shero, Rutherford: 4 coaches, 3 GM’s, 3 Cups in last 12 years. There will be plenty of ups and downs for the Oil next 12 years: the journey is part of the fun!

  78. Jaxon says:

    As mentioned by many, thanks for all you do to make the draft and the summer season one of my favourite times of the year. I was a bit disappointed in the draft outcome. I would have liked to see this as their new prospects:

    My preference
    22 Conor Timmins RHD (or Kristian Vesalainen LHW)
    82 Nikita A. Popugayev RHW (keep this pick and 126 instead of trading for a goalie, which we have a deep talent pool in)
    84 Matthew Strome LHW
    115 Ostap Safin LHW
    126 Parker Foo LHC
    146 Jordan Hollett G
    177 Skyler Brind’Amour LHC
    208 Will Reilly RHD

  79. anjinsan says:

    Who cannot love Yamamoto’s drive, skating, and skill?
    But, as Yamamoto is a mini-Barzal, Chiarelli had this kind of player two years ago and whiffed, not to mention whiffing on Carlo, too.

  80. Diablo says:

    anjinsan:
    Who cannot love Yamamoto’s drive, skating, and skill?
    But, as Yamamoto is a mini-Barzal, Chiarelli had this kind of player two years ago and whiffed, not to mention whiffing on Carlo, too.

    Possibly part of the motivation to hold on to picks instead of trading them for D. Chia is clearly feeling the hurt of trying to rush the development of this team along by trading away those picks 2 years ago.

  81. Ribs says:

    “Steve Smith”: Oh, I forgot to mention: besides finding myself less interested in the Oilers these days, I also recently fell down a well.

    I knew it!

    Well, I’m glad to hear that you are okay (or that your cell phone has enough juice to occasionally post to Lowetide while you are in the well).

  82. Ca$h-McMoney! says:

    anjinsan:
    Who cannot love Yamamoto’s drive, skating, and skill?
    But, as Yamamoto is a mini-Barzal, Chiarelli had this kind of player two years ago and whiffed, not to mention whiffing on Carlo, too.

    In his draft year Barzal had 10 even strength goals in 44 games. Yammamoto had 32 in 65 and factored in to more than 40% of his teams even strength offence. That’s a big, big number, especially for a draft year.

    Hard to see how they are even remotely the same player.

    No one over values Barzal like Oilers fans. He’s good. He’s not great. Not even close. His offence is on par with Brayden Burke, who is available for anyone to sign at any time.

  83. "Steve Smith" says:

    Ribs: Well, I’m glad to hear that you are okay…

    You might even say that I’m…[Dons sunglasses]…well.

    WAAAAAAAAAAAA!

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