RIESEN TO BELIEVE (FIRST BLUSH)

A month from now, at the end of August, I’ll write an update on this post. The ‘riesen to believe’ posts are designed to give us an idea about individuals and their chances of making the opening night rosters. Lots of things can happen before then, including college free-agent signings and trades, but today’s post gives us a starting point, a chance to gather up the strays and corral the names. In honor of famous Bulldog Michel Riesen, let’s get this party started.

THE FORWARDS

  1. C Connor McDavid, 20. A gift from the hockey Gods to the true north strong and free, hockey’s future is primed to take it to the limit and then some. Coming October to 20,000 people near you.  100%.
  2. C-R Leon Draisaitl, 21. Leon is not yet signed and we’ll have to wait and see about the money. After that, we’ll have to wait and see about the alignment. Either way, a tower of strength and skill showed us he could dominate during the playoffs. That Leon is going to help this team get to the promised land. 100%. 
  3. L Patrick Maroon, 29. All he’s done since arriving is score goals. He’s heading into a contract year and every goal he scores probably gets him farther from our shores. No choice. Fill your hat, Patrick Maroon. 100%. 
  4. L Milan Lucic, 29. Suspect he’ll arrive with a burr in his saddle and something to prove. He scored 50 points in a year when nothing rhymed 5×5, if he can return to career normals and remain a power-play savant, we could see 60 points. 100%.
  5. C Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, 24A big season for Nuge, talk of his moving to wing but it seems such a shame to waste his considerable marking skills. Needs a breakout offensive season and hopefully he gets lots of power-play time. 100%.
  6. C-R Ryan Strome, 24. He’ll get plenty of opportunities to show up the Islanders and there’s a long list of players who have done just that thing. Peter Chiarelli made his third risky trade in the summers, this one could work out and give Edmonton a value scorer. 100%.
  7. L Drake Caggiula, 23. The job is there for the taking but we’re all liars if we claim knowledge about the winner. Caggiula will get a chance and his time is now. 100%.
  8. R Zack Kassian, 26. Big man plays the Chiarelli style and posts crooked numbers 5×5. His playoff run showed he has real skill and his new contract should give excellent value. May play inside the top 9F from time to time, wonder if Todd McLellan would try him with Jokinen and Nuge. 100%.
  9. L Jussi Jokinen, 34. The only question I have about him is where he’ll line up every night. Jokinen gives the forward group some excellent options and cover for injuries and Pouliot level slumps. 100%.
  10. RC Mark Letestu, 32. I think his role may be reduced on the power play this season, with Strome or possibly Slepyshev taking some of his time. Letestu can still help out in other areas and his righty faceoffs give the team much needed depth in that area. 100%.
  11. R Anton Slepyshev, 23. He has a lot going for him, including cap hit. Slepyshev showed offensive potential internationally, but last year he stepped forward at the pro level (including playoffs). Outside chance of playing prominent role this season. 90%.
  12. R Jesse Puljujarvi, 19. They are going to give him a shot. What will he do with it? There’s so much natural talent there, getting him settled in at the NHL level would be a major step forward. 90%.
  13. L Jujhar Khaira, 23. The Oilers like his size, speed and grit, with scoring the one worry. That’s the case for basically all of the kids, which could work against him this fall. 69%.
  14. R Iiro Pakarinen, 25. He has many of the same skills as Slepyshev, except in lesser amounts. McLellan likes him and he has a chance. 40%.
  15. LC Brad Malone, 28. Malone can play center, wins faceoffs, penalty kills and it won’t hurt him to sit in the pressbox for long stretches. Edmonton signed him early in free agency, possibly for his ability to slip through waivers and back again. 40%.
  16. R Ty Rattie, 24. Rattie is a goal-scoring option, wonder if the Oilers feel like he could be a hidden gem. Whenever you see a higher pick with skill change organizations, always a good idea to remind ourselves how motivated he’ll be this season. 25%.
  17. L Joey Laleggia, 25. He is a long shot but what he brings is very valuable. If we see him getting some time with the NHLers and extra games in pre-season, we’ll have a story. 15%.
  18. R Mitch Callahan, 25. Consistent AHL performer, he brings skill with some physical play and that combination appeals to the Oilers. He may show very well in camp. 15%.
  19. R Kailer Yamamoto, 18. Electric skills and he can score goals. A small winger, he will impress if given chances. If he is here late in camp, the club may give him nine games. 10%.
  20. C Joe Gambardella, 23. He is not a high end prospect but could emerge as an NHL option (over time, likely a season or two). I’ll give him a slight chance to slide into a useful utility role at the back of the roster. 6%.

THE DEFENSE

  1. L Oscar Klefbom, 24. Klefbom is emerging as a quality NHL defenseman and a key player in this team’s future. He has the full range of skills and looks comfortable with Larsson. 100%.
  2. R Adam Larsson, 24. His first Edmonton season was impressive, as the defense and coverage improved with him on the ice. Showed ability to make solid outlet passes and to jump into the play at times. 100%.
  3. L Andrej Sekera, 31. His absence for the first portion of the season will have a major impact on this team’s fortunes. Losing a defender from the top of the pile is something this Oilers team cannot afford. 0.
  4. L Kris Russell, 30. Todd McLellan values him highly, the Woodmoney tells us what he does well defending but the overall stats tell us he defends too much. Key item for me: Russell keeps the youngsters farther down the depth chart until ready, that may well be his biggest contribution. 100%.
  5. R Matt Benning, 23. He’s a smart player, good-to-excellent with the puck and cool as a cucumber in pressure situations. If he does it again, I’m calling him Dan Boyle. 100%.
  6. L Darnell Nurse, 22. Big, strong, fleet and with a substantial mean streak. Nurse improved a lot year over year, can he do it again? The truth is the Oilers badly need him to blossom in year three of his pro career. 100%.
  7. R Eric Gryba, 29. Played 40 games as 7D last season, saw action in three playoff games. I think he’ll be in the mix for regular third-pairing activity but may not hold that job. As of now, he is a lock for the roster. 100%.
  8. L Yohann Auvitu, 27. New signing gives the team a much needed addition to the mobile passers on the roster. I don’t think he’s a lock for the roster but he has a good chance. 50%.
  9. L Ryan Stanton, 27. He appears poised to battle Auvitu for the 7D spot this fall, the edge goes to the player whose skill set best matches the required role. In a way, Stanton is more in competition with Gryba. 40%.
  10. R Mark Fayne, 30. He can defend but his foot speed isn’t great, he does not play a rugged game and the offense is minimal. I don’t think he’ll be on the team. 10%.

THE GOALIES

  1. Cam Talbot, 30. Aside from McDavid, the most important player on the roster. Posted a fantastic season and there’s no reason (injury aside) to doubt his ability to repeat it. 100%.
  2. Laurent Brossoit, 24. I have him pegged for 20 games and if he struggles badly we might see an early-season move. He’s done everything asked, it’s time to see if he can carry the load. 90%.
  3. Nick Ellis, 23. I include him because there’s always a chance someone gets hurt and the Ellis resume is very good. 10%.

THE OUTSIDERS

  1. G Eddie Pasquale. AHL veteran could get some NHL time.
  2. G Shane Starrett. Another college goalie turning pro. Strong resume.
  3. G Dylan WellsSlide rule, he’ll spend one more year in junior.
  4. G Stuart Skinner. He has a solid resume and the Oilers love him.
  5. LD Dillon Simpson. Excellent chance he plays some NHL games this year.
  6. LD Keegan Lowe. Top 4D role in Bakersfield, where does he sit on callup list?
  7. LD Ziyat Paigin. The verbal coming out on him is very strong.
  8. LD Ben Betker. Big man should get a full AHL season.
  9. RD Ethan Bear. A player to watch in Bakersfield, could get NHL cup of coffee.
  10. LD Caleb Jones. Fastest and most mobile of the new pro defensemen.
  11. RD Ryan Mantha. Big man, big shot, good speed. Duplicates Bear’s skill set.
  12. LD Dmitri Samorukov. Intriguing two-way defender.
  13. C Grayson Downing. Skilled center coming off subpar second AHL season.
  14. RC Josh Currie. Back on an AHL deal, he has skill and two-way ability.
  15. RC Kyle Platzer. We’ll know by Christmas if the Oilers have any plan for him.
  16. L Ryan Hamilton. AHL only deal, he’ll get some time with the big club in camp.
  17. L Braden Christoffer. Final year of entry deal coming up.
  18. L Evan Polei. Size and skill (6.02, 227 and 33 WHL goals) are intriguing.
  19. L Tyler Benson. Slide rule, may get some pre-season games if healthy.
  20. L Ostap Safin. Size, speed and skill. First Oilers camp on the way.
  21. R Zach O’Brien. May end up being an important player for the Condors.
  22. R Patrick Russell. Scored only 8 times as rookie pro. Needs to fill the net this year.
  23. R Greg Chase. Final year of entry-level deal ahead, has shown only flashes.
  24. R Brian Ferlin. Effective when healthy. Has had substantial injury issues.
  25. R Dave Gust. Small skill winger. AHL deal.
  26. R Chad Butcher. AHL deal, skilled RW played in Medicine Hat 2011-17.
  27. R Kirill Maksimov. High risk skill winger has some real skill.

CAP CRUNCH

Over at Oilers Nation last night I had a (very early) look at the 2018 summer cap situation. It is not good.

KAILER YAMAMOTO

One thing to watch for this fall is how much playing time Yamamoto gets during training camp and preseason. He is extremely unlikely to make the team, Todd McLellan has to find out about Jesse Puljujarvi, Drake Caggiula and Anton Slepyshev. However, as I have mentioned before, Yamamoto clearly thinks the game at a high level and has elite puck skills. He’s going to find kindred spirits at the top of Edmonton’s depth chart—if he gets the opportunity—and he’s not that much younger than Jesse Puljujarvi.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

Everything about PC’s summer activity tells me the organization is going to give JP his 500 at-bats. The only question is where he lands on the depth chart. In staring at things for a long time, I’ve come to the conclusion that the ideal place to start is on a soft minutes No. 3 line with Jussi Jokinen and Ryan Strome. If that line can cash, the Oilers should be able to put together three lines that can push possession and score enough at evens to push for the Pacific Division crown. JP is going to get the push, starting October.

 

 

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88 Responses to "RIESEN TO BELIEVE (FIRST BLUSH)"

  1. frjohnk says:

    Just one year after making the playoffs for the first time in ten years and we are looking at cap hell?

    Still early but I wonder how much cap hell will hinder the Oilers ability to compete for the cup year after year.

    EDIT: Under the scenario that Strome and Maroon shoot the lights out this along with the Oilers having success, my belief is that 2 of the Strome, Maroon, RNH cluster will not be here next year.
    EDIT 2: Also depends on how much the cap rises.

  2. Lowetide says:

    frjohnk:
    Just one year after making the playoffs for the first time in ten years and we are looking at cap hell?

    Still early but I wonder how much cap hell will hinder the Oilers ability to compete for the cup year after year.

    If they trade Nuge for picks, then they can get everyone in (imo). Just a terrible way to do it though.

  3. treevojo says:

    I start the year lucic-mcdavid-draisaitl/nuge.

    Make every other forward earn their next contract and not gifted dollars by Mcdavid.

    Being on Mcdavids line should be held for people under contractual control.

    It might be the only way to get proper reads of players true abilities and keep a majority of this team together.

    No way should potential ufas and players on Elcs with bonuses be riding the mcdavid money wave.

  4. Lowetide says:

    treevojo:
    I start the year lucic-mcdavid-draisaitl/nuge.

    Make every other forward earn their next contract and not gifted dollars by Mcdavid.

    Being on Mcdavids line should be held for people under contractual control.

    It might be the only way to get proper reads of players true abilities and keep a majority of this team together.

    No way should potential ufas and players on Elcs with bonuses be riding the mcdavid money wave.

    Maroon with McDavid works, I’d run with that all year long.

  5. Silver Streak says:

    treevojo:
    I start the year lucic-mcdavid-draisaitl/nuge.

    Make every other forward earn their next contract and not gifted dollars by Mcdavid.

    Being on Mcdavids line should be held for people under contractual control.

    It might be the only way to get proper reads of players true abilities and keep a majority of this team together.

    No way should potential ufas and players on Elcs with bonuses be riding the mcdavid money wave.

  6. jm363561 says:

    LT. copying your comments from ON – “The Oilers are in a weird spot, with walking around money for the coming season (depending on Draisaitl’s deal) and a real crunch the following year. A few things could help:

    A bridge deal for Draisaitl.
    Getting Sekera or Lucic to waive NM deal.
    Trading Nuge.
    Trading Jesse Puljujarvi.”

    Much as I like Nuge he has been a luxury for years at $6m. Chia has methodically been shedding the “non – value” for money contracts he inherited – Ference, Nikitin, Eberle, et al. Nuge has a string of 50 point +/- -10 seasons (worst on the team by a mile last year). I have no doubt he will go and we will be in a no better or worse position than most teams in 2018 (unlike Nashville who really have done well).

    As the cap increases and McD / Leon’s contracts take a smaller % (and the mysterious Pouliot buy out cost disappears, and is used to pay Cam) we should avoid hell.

  7. treevojo says:

    My only exception for this rule is Patrick Maroon.

    I’m ok with him continueing his success with Mcdavid and riding off into the sunset if the dollars are too rich.

    He is a bargain right now and if he has another season of output like last he deserves to get paid but it shouldn’t be at the expense of the Oilers center and defensive depth.

  8. Scungilli Slushy says:

    frjohnk: Just one year after making the playoffs for the first time in ten years and we are looking at cap hell?

    Still early but I wonder how much cap hell will hinder the Oilers ability to compete for the cup year after year.

    All teams face the challenge. It’s about who makes the right call on developing players, who signs the most value contracts, who signs the least cap anchors or avoids buying decline based on rep or loyalty.

  9. treevojo says:

    Lowetide: Maroon with McDavid works, I’d run with that all year long.

    Ha

    Read my next post.

    I started writing it right after I posted the first.

    Guess we are thinking the same.

  10. Silver Streak says:

    This all day……if Maroon signs then he gets McDavids wing…if not, well its “show me ” again time for the man from Missouri

  11. Clay says:

    Lowetide,

    I think the Sekera injury is going to afford Chia a “no Sekera” audition for LD. By that I mean he’ll have a chance to rotate the low-cost options through the roster on D (Paigin, Simpson, etc), and if the team does well, I think it’s just as likely Sekera is traded out. A left side of Klef, Nurse, Russell is serviceable, and there’s a lot more bubbling under at the defence position in the organization than at centre.

  12. jm363561 says:

    treevojo:

    Make every other forward earn their next contract and not gifted dollars by

    ======
    Not knowing the first thing about the GM / Coach relationship I am loathe to say I cannot believe Chia goes to Todd and says don’t play any FAs with Connor. But it just seems really unlikely IMHO.

  13. treevojo says:

    Coaches are going to coach.

    Gms are going to gm.

    But to think these two don’t have a relationship and talk about different scenarios of cap management and how that pertains to how Todd deploys the troops would be somewhat naive.

  14. dustrock says:

    Dan Boyle is pretty high praise for Benning. I like Benning a lot and can see some similarities, but Boyle in his prime was a pretty spectacular player. 🙂

    I wonder if Nurse gets traded during this year, or in the offseason. If Sekera doesn’t want to leave and he bounces back, and we have Russell until 2027, we can’t afford to keep Nurse and unless he takes a big jump, not sure he fits in the long-term plans anyway.

    It’s really not that hard to get bottom-pairing defenders and he has to be more than that.

    Otherwise next year Nurse is going to start to get passed by other prospects ( we hope.)

  15. OilSafety says:

    Lowetide, why do you hate Yakimov?

    Just kidding. I don’t think he’ll be here for opening night, but I really feel the book isn’t closed on him with this organization.

    Size and can play C fits with coach and gm.

    I think if Sleppy carves himself out a spot in this team it will go a long way to Yakimov doing the same.

  16. Lowetide says:

    Todd McLellan could have done Peter Chiarelli an enormous favor by finding a way to get Jesse Puljujarvi into the lineup after game 28, building his confidence and finding a line where he could flourish. At some point the long-term priorities take a back seat to winning. Important to remember when we’re trying to suss out how much impact a general manager has on a roster in-season.

  17. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Nuge’s contract is now becoming value given the recent escalation. To me it would be a mistake to sign a 30 YO Maroon to ~4.5M and move Nuge’s 6M, when Maroon’s best season was on CMD’s wing which was the same as Nuge’s poor season with struggling wingers.

    I would wager it will come down to how Nuge does on faceoffs and sawing off top comp. If he takes a step forward they would want to keep him, if he stays in the low 40’s and gets outscored they will move him.

  18. treevojo says:

    dustrock:
    Dan Boyle is pretty high praise for Benning.I like Benning a lot and can see some similarities, but Boyle in his prime was a pretty spectacular player.

    I wonder if Nurse gets traded during this year, or in the offseason.If Sekera doesn’t want to leave and he bounces back, and we have Russell until 2027, we can’t afford to keep Nurse and unless he takes a big jump, not sure he fits in the long-term plans anyway.

    It’s really not that hard to get bottom-pairing defenders and he has to be more than that.

    Otherwise next year Nurse is going to start to get passed by other prospects ( we hope.)

    So you either think Nurse is bottom pairing or you think he is more then that.

    If he is bottom pairing then why couldn’t you afford him.

    If he is more then bottom pairing then he will be paid as such.

    The Oilers long term plans on defense don’t include a physical beast who can skate like the wind with high upside?

  19. DBO says:

    Wonder if both Maroon and the team would settle this summer on a solid deal.

    3 years for $3.5 million

    Maroon, who seems to love being here and being part of this group, would get 3 years of certainty. Give him no move clause if it seals it. The Oil get a cost effective 1st line winger who has chemistry with the best player in the game.

    Winning, great team chemistry and fun environment can lead to value deals for the non top dogs (see Nashville). Hopefully the team is pro active and moves on some these guys to give us cost certainty in the next few years. We will lose players for sure as cap casualties, but I hope we are being proactive instead of making players prove it (cause that has so worked in the past)

  20. treevojo says:

    Lowetide:
    Todd McLellan could have done Peter Chiarelli an enormous favor by finding a way to get Jesse Puljujarvi into the lineup after game 28, building his confidence and finding a line where he could flourish. At some point the long-term priorities take a back seat to winning. Important to remember when we’re trying to suss out how much impact a general manager has on a roster in-season.

    I don’t understand how playing Jesse after game 28 would be doing Chiarelli a favour long term.

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    treevojo:
    I start the year lucic-mcdavid-draisaitl/nuge.

    Make every other forward earn their next contract and not gifted dollars by Mcdavid.

    Being on Mcdavids line should be held for people under contractual control.

    It might be the only way to get proper reads of players true abilities and keep a majority of this team together.

    No way should potential ufas and players on Elcs with bonuses be riding the mcdavid money wave.

    Totally get your theory and what you are saying, however, the coach needs to deploy his roster players in a manner that gives the team the best chance to win each and every game, stats, bonus, potential cap hits notwithstanding.

  22. leadfarmer says:

    When is the last time a small player that was drafted outside of top 10 makes it on opening day roster? There is no chance Yamamoto is physically ready for the NHL. I think Chia realizes that nothing good would come out of rushing him.

  23. theWaxCollector says:

    Gotta disagree with Slepy at 90%.. I think he’s going to have a breakout year.

    For the first time he looks way less “the boss is watching” and more “this is my school”. Confidence

  24. Bag of Pucks says:

    From an analytics pov, and possibly a philosophical one as well, how is it possible that a F can be the most important player on the roster over a G?

    A Goalie plays 60 mins of every game and impacts every shot on net by the opposition. An elite F plays a third of the game and directs 5 or 6 shots at the opposition.

    Seems counter intuitive to suggest the goalie isn’t the most impactful position in hockey?

  25. Jaxon says:

    If Benson is healthy and shows well in preseason, , I wouldn’t be surprised to see him get a few regular season games (maybe even 9) with the club. With the lack of depth on the wings and the possible loss of Maroon and Jokinen next season. Add to that Lucius lack of 5-on-5 scoring and they may really want to see what they have in Benson at this stage. Giving him a taste of what it takes to play at the NHL level might be very valuable to his development before he gets sent down too, so, if needed, he’ll be better equipped to step right in next season.

  26. stush18 says:

    theWaxCollector:
    Gotta disagree with Slepy at 90%.. I think he’s going to have a breakout year.

    For the first time he looks way less “the boss is watching” and more “this is my school”. Confidence

    This is a great analogy.

    This is how I saw it in playoffs. All season he was making the “smart” or right plays.

    You saw him break out aggressively in playoffs. Started shooting from places that only skilled forwards think about shooting from.

  27. Bag of Pucks says:

    The great thing about a team winning Stanley is it clearly signifies reaching the top of the mountain. The absolute bottom is less clear. Curious as to what other posters felt was the absolute nadir in the decade of darkness?

    For me, I’m tempted to say MacT firing Krueger over Skype cos it revealed the OBC as so thoroughly inept and unprofessional that they couldn’t even fire someone properly, but I honestly think the lowest of the low was MacT trading Perron after he called out the lack of professionalism in the culture. Not only did the trade continue the org’s pattern of dealing useful skilled vets for lottery tickets and journeymen, it demonstrated a culture that was more about covering mgmt’s ass than it was about solving problems and winning.

    Remember at the time, MacT had fired Eakins and gone back behind the bench to get a firsthand look at the cancer. Combine that with Perron’s minor revolt and subsequent banishment and you really had the sense that the Oil were closer to dark ages royalty than they were a professional sports business.

    Nice to ponder the nadir on occasion. Really shows how far they’ve come and reminds us that these salad days are truly cause for celebration. Someone should really send Todd Nelson a fruit basket. When this team hit bottom, he was the first guy that started digging out.

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Perron trade was 100% necessary.

    Perron seemed like a solid and caring vetran. He called out his teamates – OK, that’s fine, however, he followed up calling out his teammates with some extremely lazy play on the ice and that was unacceptable after said calling out. It was one of the few times in my adult life that I remember being actually mad at an Oiler player – I lost respect for Perron and came to the conclusion that he had to go. He had given up.

  29. Bag of Pucks says:

    Pouzar, don’t disagree with anything you’re saying here but in fairness to Perron, why were more players not revolting?

    In any company, when management is revealed to be hopelessly inept, the rank and file become apathetic. In engineering a way out of that mess, Perron demonstrated a strong survival instinct.

    Perron was to MacT as Sessions is to Trump?

  30. Professor Q says:

    Wait, what?

    I definitely don’t remember this about Perron. He was an excellent Oiler, even though he had a slump and the trade probably helped Edmonton get McDavid, in a sense. Event though it’d have been nice to see if he could have played well alongside McDavid…

    I remember other players being like that but not Perron (Souray, Hall, Penner, etc.; but then again look at how they were also treated by the team and media).

    And I loved how he always would say that he loved the “once an Oiler, always an Oiler” motto and wanted to play for Edmonton again ever since the trade.

  31. godot10 says:

    jm363561:
    LT. copying your comments from ON – “The Oilers are in a weird spot, with walking around money for the coming season (depending on Draisaitl’s deal) and a real crunch the following year. A few things could help:

    A bridge deal for Draisaitl.
    Getting Sekera or Lucic to waive NM deal.
    Trading Nuge.
    Trading Jesse Puljujarvi.”

    Much as I like Nuge he has been a luxury for years at $6m. Chia has methodically been shedding the “non – value” for money contracts he inherited – Ference, Nikitin, Eberle, et al. Nuge has a string of 50 point +/- -10 seasons (worst on the team by a mile last year). I have no doubt he will go and we will be in a no better or worse position than most teams in 2018 (unlike Nashville who really have done well).

    As the cap increases and McD / Leon’s contracts take a smaller % (and the mysterious Pouliot buy out cost disappears, and is used to pay Cam) we should avoid hell.

    A bridge deal for Draisaitl doesn’t help. It is a false savings, and will only lead to another dumb contract like Russell’s, and having to pay Draisaitl $11 million in two years instead of $8.5 million long term.

    The sooner one locks up key core players for duration in a hard cap system the better. Those contracts gain value over time.

    The Maroon’s and Strome’s and Russell’s are replaceable. They just don’t matter in the big picture.

  32. Nuclear leak says:

    Benning is nowhere near Boyle, let’s be serious about this for a moment.

    Benning has plenty of tools in his box but being compared to Boyle is not fair on the kid.

    He’s maybe a Petry that hits, which is incredible.. but Boyle? How?

  33. Professor Q says:

    godot10,

    How is Russell’s contract dumb?

  34. Nuclear leak says:

    Trading Perron wasn’t necessary, it was a shame.

    Came from outside the org and actually gave shit about what was happening in the ice and wasn’t the type to keep his lips shut about it.

    He’d fit right in with this current crew of players, maybe a 1yr deal next summer as a cheap winger. Gonna need about 14 of them lol.

  35. Nuclear leak says:

    Professor Q:
    godot10,

    How is Russell’s contract dumb?

    Two years too long, too much coin, Vegas gave Methot away.. among others. Probably have to trade Sekera, Nuge, and the new washrooms for Emelin next summer.

  36. Johnny Larue says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    The absolute nadir was the second year of Eakins just before he got fired. It was so bad that I didn’t want to go to the games and couldn’t give the tickets away because no one wanted to go either.! The only thing that made me keep my tickets was the new building coming and the hope that with the new building better times would follow also. There always was the rumour that Katz’s plan was for the team to start winning once the move to the building was made. It turns out that’s what happened but I think Connor had more to do with it than Katz.

  37. Bag of Pucks says:

    Professor Q,

    Can’t find the clip but in a post game interview after a tough loss, he called out players AND coaches to be more accountable. Basically inferring that the players weren’t only ones that should be shouldering the blame for another losing season under Eakins.

    For an old school former HC like MacT, that was an unpardonable sin (ie you never blame the coach publicly) and optically it probably hastened Eakins demise as it was clear he was losing the room.

    That put Perron immediately on the must trade list for the OBC.

    I think that’s the correct sequence of events. If not, McCurdy and his bulletproof memory will be along shortly to help : )

  38. Professor Q says:

    Nuclear leak: Two years too long, too much coin, Vegas gave Methot away.. among others. Probably have to trade Sekera, Nuge, and the new washrooms for Emelin next summer.

    Have you actually looked at how it is structured, though? There are definitely reasons as to why. Russell is definitely much better than Methot and we were in need of someone to fill in for Sekera for the time being.

    People think things are zero-sum and in vaccuums…

  39. Professor Q says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Well, if so then well, maybe it was deserved? I mean if I remember correctly he wasn’t the only one who called out players *and* coaches during those years (Hall being one, some of the others as well, if I remember correctly). The Souray fiasco was obviously earlier and messier but still.

    To MacT maybe. But I don’t think, personally, it was too drastic. Although I suppose I’m biased because I *really* hate how Kreuger was fired and how Eakins was hired and all of that.

  40. Bag of Pucks says:

    Johnny Larue,

    If they got off to a poor start, the Ducks could conceivably fire Carlyle and elevate Eakins to HC.

    In which case, the Duck would be well and truly fucked.

  41. Nuclear leak says:

    Professor Q: Have you actually looked at how it is structured, though? There are definitely reasons as to why. Russell is definitely much better than Methot and we were in need of someone to fill in for Sekera for the time being.

    People think things are zero-sum and in vaccuums…

    Better then Methot! You’ve gosh darn lost your damn mind.

    4yrs, 4million, no trade clause with a list… didn’t Oduya sign for pennies in Ottawa..

    Russell contract will cost the Oilers one of Sekera,Benning, or Nurse. Those are much nice vacuums

  42. digger50 says:

    In regards to Auvitu, any idea why a team starved for defenceman (Devils) would let him walk?

  43. godot10 says:

    Professor Q:
    godot10,

    How is Russell’s contract dumb?

    It is effectively a 4-year no move contract…so it is too long by three years, and one should never give NMC’s to non-core players, ever.

  44. leadfarmer says:

    godot10: A bridge deal for Draisaitl doesn’t help.It is a false savings, and will only lead to another dumb contract like Russell’s, and having to pay Draisaitl $11 million in two years instead of $8.5 million long term.

    The sooner one locks up key core players for duration in a hard cap system the better.Those contracts gain value over time.

    The Maroon’s and Strome’s and Russell’s are replaceable.They just don’t matter in the big picture.

    Ryan Johansen another #4 overall pick just signed for 1 RFA year and 7 UFA years for 8 million per. There is no way that Draisatls 5 RFA years and 3 UFA years go over that If I’m Chia you push it hard. 7 mil for each of the 5 RFA years and 9 mil per for the 3 UFA years is as high as I would go. 7.75 mil cap hit per if you don’t want to do the math would be my max. Otherwise I would look at a bridge. We can’t afford him at a higher cost either way so either we have him here for a run for the next couple years at a more affordable contract and he’s worth a huge contract and we trade him for a kings ransom but we can’t afford him at 10 mil per now or in the future

  45. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Bag of Pucks: Pouzar, don’t disagree with anything you’re saying here but in fairness to Perron, why were more players not revolting?

    The whole team was revolting!

  46. Professor Q says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Praise the Bruce Almighty!

  47. Bag of Pucks says:

    Professor Q,

    That’s the thing about the OBC: the Comrie salary giveback request costing Corey Perry, Penner offer sheet, Skypegate, Pronger breakup, coaching carousel, 2nd tier fans, Dubnyk diss, Souray in the A, etc.

    There’s so MANY nadirs to choose from. When it came to sheer ineptitude, ‘they were gold Jerry, gold!’

  48. Professor Q says:

    godot10,

    Yeah maybe the NMC was a bit suspect.

  49. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nuclear leak:
    Trading Perron wasn’t necessary, it was a shame.

    Came from outside the org and actually gave shit about what was happening in the ice and wasn’t the type to keep his lips shut about it.

    He’d fit right in with this current crew of players, maybe a 1yr deal next summer as a cheap winger. Gonna need about 14 of them lol.

    Agree that he didn’t keep his lips shut about it – unfortunately, after spouting off and throwing his teammates under the bus for lazy play he did the exact same thing himself the very next game – I remember it clearly, absoluteness gave up on a backcheck leading to an important goal against.

    Yup, it was a lazy play that many players were making but to do so right after calling out his teammates for the exact same thing – unacceptable!

  50. Professor Q says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Professor Q,

    That’s the thing about the OBC: the Comrie salary giveback request costing Corey Perry, Penner offer sheet, Skypegate, Pronger breakup, coaching carousel, 2nd tier fans, Dubnyk diss, Souray in the A, etc.

    There’s so MANY nadirs to choose from. When it came to sheer ineptitude, ‘they were gold Jerry, gold!’

    And not to mention the Vanek, Jagr, and (I forget who it was, but I think he was a moderately sought-after FA, a bit older, possibly bald, etc.) signing fiascos. Promising to sign with Edmonton then backing out last minute (or was Vanek’s the offer sheet ordeal?).

    EDIT:

    Was it Michael Nylander? Hmmm. And now his kids will probably battle us again being on Toronto and Buffalo.

  51. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Professor Q,

    Also: Dany Heatley says hi.

  52. stush18 says:

    Bruce McCurdy: The whole team was revolting!

    *baduum Tisssh!*

    Thank you, I’ll be here all night!

  53. Professor Q says:

    Bruce McCurdy:
    Professor Q,

    Also: Dany Heatley says hi.

    It really was a bad period. I’m glad that I’ve forgotten a lot and we’ve moved on…

  54. Glass says:

    Trading Nuge is inevitable, and I don’t mind doing it for picks. 2018 is supposed to be a strong draft year.

    Barzal would be an interesting target. He is a RHC with top 6 skill while also being reliable enough defensively to project as a 3C. The Islanders have been looking for a top 6 center for a while, so I figure this is a possibility. In addition to Barzal, I imagine we’d get a high pick and a middling pick (4th/5th).

    Maybe not this season, but for sure the season after I’d expect him to be an NHL regular. We don’t really have any other great C prospects in the system, most of them project to be checking centers.

    Would be great to have Barzal and Bear back on the same PP unit, we’d be set on both powerplays.

  55. Bank Shot says:

    Glass:
    Trading Nuge is inevitable, and I don’t mind doing it for picks. 2018 is supposed to be a strong draft year.

    Barzal would be an interesting target. He is a RHC with top 6 skill while also being reliable enough defensively to project as a 3C. The Islanders have been looking for a top 6 center for a while, so I figure this is a possibility. In addition to Barzal, I imagine we’d get a high pick and a middling pick (4th/5th).

    Maybe not this season, but for sure the season after I’d expect him to be an NHL regular. We don’t really have any other great C prospects in the system, most of them project to be checking centers.

    Would be great to have Barzal and Bear back on the same PP unit, we’d be set on both powerplays.

    No thanks to Barzal. He can’t score goals in juniors.

  56. leadfarmer says:

    Nuclear leak: Better then Methot! You’ve gosh darn lost your damn mind.

    4yrs, 4million, no trade clause with a list… didn’t Oduya sign for pennies in Ottawa..

    Russell contract will cost the Oilers one of Sekera,Benning, or Nurse. Those are much nice vacuums

    36 year old Johnnie Oduya is done. It’s like saying why didn’t we sign Hendricks to an extension last year. There’s a reason he signed that contract

  57. speeds says:

    godot10: A bridge deal for Draisaitl doesn’t help.It is a false savings, and will only lead to another dumb contract like Russell’s, and having to pay Draisaitl $11 million in two years instead of $8.5 million long term.

    Why is it more reasonable to assume he’s going to sign for 11M in 2 years (a cap number that right now no one else has, outside McDavid who doesn’t start for a year) than, say, 8M, if he spends the next 2 years on a bridge deal exclusively playing C?

  58. LMHF#1 says:

    Professor Q: And not to mention the Vanek, Jagr, and (I forget who it was, but I think he was a moderately sought-after FA, a bit older, possibly bald, etc.) signing fiascos. Promising to sign with Edmonton then backing out last minute (or was Vanek’s the offer sheet ordeal?).

    EDIT:

    Was it Michael Nylander? Hmmm. And now his kids will probably battle us again being on Toronto and Buffalo.

    Nylander backed out. Vanek really wanted to play in Alberta and supposedly cried he was so upset when Buffalo matched.

  59. Georges says:

    I wasn’t hardcore enough to watch regularly during the dark years. I saw just enough to not want to see anymore.

    But I did watch religiously in CMD’s first season. The injury was an awful gut punch. But the Hall-Drai show was nice to watch while CMD was out… and encouraging.

    The nadir for me had to be the stretch of games after CMD got back. No miraculous run in the back stretch. No somewhat competitive run in the back stretch. The same, same old.

    Add generational player. Same bottom of the standings result. Maybe it doesn’t get better.

    Thank goodness that changed…

  60. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    godot10,

    The NMC transitions to a modified NTC for the last two years.

    CLAUSE DETAILS:
    2019-20: Player submits a 10 team trade list.
    2020-21: Player submits a 15 team trade list.

    CLAUSE SOURCE: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kris-russell

    So it would appear it was designed to make him a tradeable asset in the last two years. Particularly to a team looking to take on cap space and a veteran player. IE teams with an internal budget or younger roster, like Arizona and Carolina or Winnipeg.

    (edited for grammar)

  61. Professor Q says:

    LMHF#1: Nylander backed out. Vanek really wanted to play in Alberta and supposedly cried he was so upset when Buffalo matched.

    Hmm, that’s almost exactly what I said…

  62. leadfarmer says:

    I’m sure Puljujarvi is going to get a push. They want the kid to succeed. If he’s not ready to might want to consider trading him.

  63. blainer says:

    I really like Benning …. but…

    He was actually a healthy scratch in favor of Gryba quite a bit and almost right up to the last few games.

    I hope he isn’t getting over confident and is working his ass off in the off season.

    At this time last year a lot of us were penciling Davidson in the top four. That should give us all a reminder of how things change in season.

    We really need Benning coming into camp understanding he is competing for his job. Same with Nurse.

  64. OriginalPouzar says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    godot10,

    The NMC transitions to a modified NTC for the last two years.

    CLAUSE DETAILS:
    2019-20: Player submits a 10 team trade list.
    2020-21: Player submits a 15 team trade list.

    CLAUSE SOURCE: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kris-russell

    So it would appear it was designed to make him a tradeable asset in the last two years.Particularly to a team looking to take on cap space and a veteran player.IE teams with an internal budget or younger roster, like Arizona and Carolina or Winnipeg.

    (edited for grammar)

    Internal budget teams are likely weaker teams that Russell isn’t going to submit on his trade list – I would think.

    There have been many excuses made for this contract – that its tradeable in the last few years. To me, signing a contract with the full knowledge that its too much money for too long and there will likely be a need to try and dispose of it means its a bad contract no matter the hole left in the lineup by letting the player walk.

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer:
    I’m sure Puljujarvi is going to get a push.They want the kid to succeed.If he’s not ready to might want to consider trading him.

    Why would they want to consider trading him?

    With our cap structure, the most important thing for this team going forward is a steady stream of young prospect wingers to come in and replace the more veteran wingers that price themselves out of Edmonton.

    In the next few years, we will be relying on players like JP, Yamamoto, Benson, etc. to come in and replace guys like Slep/Drake who themselves are replacing guys like Maroon and Nuge and Strome, etc.

  66. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar: Why would they want to consider trading him?

    With our cap structure, the most important thing for this team going forward is a steady stream of young prospect wingers to come in and replace the more veteran wingers that price themselves out of Edmonton.

    In the next few years, we will be relying on players like JP, Yamamoto, Benson, etc. to come in and replace guys like Slep/Drake who themselves are replacing guys like Maroon and Nuge and Strome, etc.

    Because you pretty much spent his ELC in the AHL except for the following year. He was considered a top notch prospect on draft day. If he’s not ready to play next year can you still consider him a top notch prospect? Your making it sound like I want to give him away, while in reality I’d expect a top notch prospect in return

  67. GCW_69 says:

    Read your piece on ON. This is certainly when the Russell contract starts to bite them in the ass.

    It is most likely that the “plan” either had Nurse pushing Sekera off the roster, or pushing him over to the right side. The Russell signing suggests its not the latter, which means they are planning to keep Russell over Sekera or they see Nurse taking a longer path. Neither is good for the Oilers.

    I suspect that Chiarelli will be forced to play hardball with Nurse and Benning, and I expect them both to get 1 or 2 year deals and lower dollars. If you make the assumption that Chiarelli plays hardball with Leon and signs him to RFA years only (say 5 yrs and $6M or $6.5M) then I think you can make the roster work. Leon at $8 almost guaranteed pushes Nuge or Sekera off the roster.

    If you make the following deals though, it could work:
    1) Leon $6.5M for 5 years
    2) Strome $3.5M for 2 years
    3) Maroon $3.5M for 3 years
    4) Derek Ryan or equivalent for 1 year $700K
    5) Slepyshev for 1 year at $1.3M or less
    6) Nurse $2M for 1 year
    7) Benning $1.75M for 1 year
    8) Boissoit $1M for 2 years.

    From Arm Chair GM:

    CapFriendly.com Armchair-GM User-Generated Roster

    FORWARDS (12)
    Right wing: R. Nugent-Hopkins ($6,000,000) – Z. Kassian ($1,950,000) – J. Puljujarvi ($925,000) – A. Slepyshev ($1,300,000)
    Centre: C. McDavid ($12,500,000) – L. Draisaitl ($6,500,000) – R. Strome ($3,500,000) – D. Ryan ($700,000)
    Left wing: P. Maroon ($3,500,000) – M. Lucic ($6,000,000)D. Caggiula ($1,250,000) – J. Khaira ($675,000)

    DEFENSE (7)
    Right: A. Larsson ($4,166,667) – K. Russell ($4,000,000) – M. Benning ($1,750,000) – E. Gryba ($900,000)
    Left: O. Klefbom ($4,167,000) – A. Sekera ($5,500,000) – D. Nurse ($2,000,000)

    GOALTENDER (2)
    C. Talbot ($4,166,667) – L. Brossoit ($1,000,000)

    BUYOUTS
    B. Pouliot ($1,333,333)

    DETAILS
    Roster Size: 21
    NHL Salary Cap: $75,000,000
    Cap Hit: $73,783,667
    Cap Space: $1,216,333

    There is some big assumptions there – that you can get Maroon for $3.5M (if he wants more, I think I would walk away). It means the Oilers playing hardball with RFAs like Drake, Nurse, Benning and Slepy, and that the Oilers pretty much keeping Nurse and Benning on the third pair for the last half of the season, pushing down their value. If one of them has a break out season (clear top 4) and needs to be paid as such, I think we are looking at the Oilers asking Sekera to waive his NMC.

    Because this can work, I think the Oilers should not buy FA years on Leon’s contract. Position themselves best to win over the next 5 years, and then pay the piper when Leon’s deal ends. The reality is most big stars stay put, so the “OMG, Leon could leave” argument doesn’t bother me much.

    The following year, 2019/20, the Oilers need to be pushing Sekera, Russell or both off the roster to fund re-signing JP, Nurse and Benning.

    Fire away!

  68. Georges says:

    I get why you’d turn on a player that has bad on-ice results. I don’t get why you’d go after a player that has good on-ice results.

    The thinking on Russell and what happens when Russell is on the ice are out of synch. Shouldn’t you wait until Russell has the stats of a bad player before tossing him into the bad player bin? If Sekera holds Russell up, how to explain Sekera’s 2015-16 stats where he held nobody up? Sekera’s greatness with the Oilers couldn’t be seen until Russell and Benning were on the roster. Maybe Russell made Sekera better too.

    Over the past 3 seasons, Russell is 35th among defensemen in TOI/GP and 51st in total TOI. Why can’t his coaches see how bad he is and stop playing him at a top pairing rate?

    What if Russell delivers on average $4M worth of defenseman value over the 4 years of his contract? That’s, what, maybe averaging 20 minutes per game and playing 70 or more games per season…? Is that still a bad contract?

    Rooting against Russell seems to be a way of life. No thanks.

  69. Gerta Rauss says:

    The nadir for me was Mactavish’s comments at/near the end of the 2015 season-I’m reasonably comfortable going forward with Oscar and Justin and Nikita and Andrew and Mark Fayne – and then he followed that up by stating the following season was going to be another development year

    It had become crystal clear to everyone that one of the marquee forwards was going to have to be moved to acquire a high end D-clear to everyone except (apparently) the management of the Edmonton Oilers

    And then a couple weeks later the clouds broke and the sun appeared

  70. Gerta Rauss says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    godot10,

    The NMC transitions to a modified NTC for the last two years.

    CLAUSE DETAILS:
    2019-20: Player submits a 10 team trade list.
    2020-21: Player submits a 15 team trade list.

    CLAUSE SOURCE: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kris-russell

    So it would appear it was designed to make him a tradeable asset in the last two years.Particularly to a team looking to take on cap space and a veteran player.IE teams with an internal budget or younger roster, like Arizona and Carolina or Winnipeg.

    (edited for grammar)

    I’ll save Godot the typing by saying the NMC is in effect the full 4 years-he can’t be buried in the AHL or he can’t be exposed in another expansion draft (should it occur)

    The NTC overlays the NMC…so yes, he can be moved in year 3 or 4, provided Chia has the opportunity/desire to move him

  71. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer: Because you pretty much spent his ELC in the AHL except for the following year.He was considered a top notch prospect on draft day.If he’s not ready to play next year can you still consider him a top notch prospect?Your making it sound like I want to give him away, while in reality I’d expect a top notch prospect in return

    He’s 19 – if he doesn’t make the team out of camp, that’s still fine.

    I’m fine with his ELC being used in the AHL – he’s developing and this will lead to a cheap second contract when he’s ready to perform in the NHL.

  72. blainer says:

    Georges:
    I get why you’d turn on a player that has bad on-ice results. I don’t get why you’d go after a player that has good on-ice results.

    The thinking on Russell and what happens when Russell is on the ice are out of synch. Shouldn’t you wait until Russell has the stats of a bad player before tossing him into the bad player bin? If Sekera holds Russell up, how to explain Sekera’s 2015-16 stats where he held nobody up? Sekera’s greatness with the Oilers couldn’t be seen until Russell and Benning were on the roster. Maybe Russell made Sekera better too.

    Over the past 3 seasons, Russell is 35th among defensemen in TOI/GP and 51st in total TOI. Why can’t his coaches see how bad he is and stop playing him at a top pairing rate?

    What if Russell delivers on average $4M worth of defenseman value over the 4 years of his contract? That’s, what, maybe averaging 20 minutes per game and playing 70 or more games per season…? Is that still a bad contract?

    Rooting against Russell seems to be a way of life. No thanks.

    +1

  73. Yegfoundation says:

    Lowetide: If they trade Nuge for picks, then they can get everyone in (imo). Just a terrible way to do it though.

    I’m pretty certain we can win without the Nuge. As evidence, I submit the 2017 playoffs where he had 1 whole point in 13 games. Pretty sure.

  74. john says:

    Boyle is a fascinating comparable for Benning: CJHL, unfancied at the draft (Boyle wasn’t even taken, although he was small at the time), college hockey, NHL at 22.. He only “arrived” when he was 26, placing 5th in points among defensemen league-wide. Let’s hope Benning can shave a year off that, and LT’s crystal balls will be worth their weight in goals!

  75. Lowetide says:

    Yegfoundation: I’m pretty certain we can win without the Nuge. As evidence, I submit the 2017 playoffs where he had 1 whole point in 13 games. Pretty sure.

    I thought Nuge was effective in the playoffs. Eye of the beholder, I guess.

  76. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Things can work, with marquee players getting big contracts I assume role players will get less. Contract term in parentheses.

    Jokinen (1) 1.25 McD (8) 12.5 Strome (4) 3
    Lucic (5) 6 Drai (8) 8 Slepy (2) 1.75
    Cagguila (2) 1.5 Nuge (3) 6 JP (1) .925
    Khaira (1) .675 Letestu (2) 1 Kassian (2) 1.95
    Malone (1) .650 Pak (1) .800

    Sekera (3) 5.5 Larsson (3) 4.167
    Klefbom (5) 4.167 Benning (2) 1.75
    Nurse (2) 1.75 Russell (3) 4
    Gryba (1) .900

    Talbot (1) 4.167
    Broissoit (2) .850

    Roster 23, Cap 77M Bonuses 2.5M Space 2.4M

  77. Thinker says:

    Tricky thing with the Draisaitl contract is that we’re buying high.

  78. Thinker says:

    Honestly though, if you had 3 good lines and nobodies on your fourth line, would the 5 min they play hurt you?

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yegfoundation: I’m pretty certain we can win without the Nuge. As evidence, I submit the 2017 playoffs where he had 1 whole point in 13 games. Pretty sure.

    I submit his TOI against against elites in the regular season and, although I haven’t seen the numbers, I assume the playoffs.

    Points are only part of his game – yes, he needs to produce more to “earn” his cap hit but his 1 point in 13 games does not mean he did not play a material role.

  80. OriginalPouzar says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Things can work, with marquee players getting big contracts I assume role players will get less. Contract term in parentheses.

    Jokinen (1) 1.25 McD (8) 12.5 Strome (4) 3
    Lucic (5) 6 Drai (8) 8 Slepy (2) 1.75
    Cagguila (2) 1.5 Nuge (3) 6 JP (1) .925
    Khaira (1) .675 Letestu (2)1 Kassian (2) 1.95
    Malone (1) .650 Pak (1) .800

    Sekera (3) 5.5 Larsson (3) 4.167
    Klefbom (5) 4.167 Benning (2) 1.75
    Nurse (2) 1.75 Russell (3) 4
    Gryba (1) .900

    Talbot (1) 4.167
    Broissoit (2) .850

    Roster 23, Cap 77M Bonuses 2.5M Space 2.4M

    Its nice in theory that role players will take less but in reality, if we can’t afford to keep them, they will go elsewhere – ala Maroon next year.

    I think some of you numbers are simplly a little low.

    If Jokinen performs in a manner where we want to re-sign him, he will almost undoubtedly be getting more than $1.25.

    Strome will likely not lock in at a fairly low number of $3M for four years unless his scoring doesn’t come back and, if his scoring doesn’t come back, we won’t want to sign him for four years.

    Caggulia and Slepy at each under $2M presumes they have similar years this year than last and that would be a disappointment.

  81. Lowetide says:

    treevojo: I don’t understand how playing Jesse after game 28 would be doing Chiarelli a favour long term.

    If Puljujarvi had hung around all year, and found his way a little, it would have given PC more certainty about Puljujarvi this coming season. I don’t blame McLellan for moving on from the player last season but was surprised they didn’t bring him back later in the year.

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    Thinker:
    Honestly though, if you had 3 good lines and nobodies on your fourth line, would the 5 min they play hurt you?

    1) those nobody’s move up the lineup when there are injuries

    2) that’s too much ice for the top 3 lines – we don’t really want most forwards over 20 minutes, even McDavid. McDavid at 20-21 is probably good although he’s likely to see more PK time this year.

  83. Lowetide says:

    theWaxCollector:
    Gotta disagree with Slepy at 90%.. I think he’s going to have a breakout year.

    For the first time he looks way less “the boss is watching” and more “this is my school”. Confidence

    Slepyshev can be sent down without waivers. That’s the sole reason for him not being 100 percent.

  84. Yegfoundation says:

    Lowetide: I thought Nuge was effective in the playoffs. Eye of the beholder, I guess.

    I don’t think his performance matches your perception of him and I wonder if you’re able to accept that he’s not a player that needs to be on the roster.

  85. godot10 says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    godot10,

    The NMC transitions to a modified NTC for the last two years.

    CLAUSE DETAILS:
    2019-20: Player submits a 10 team trade list.
    2020-21: Player submits a 15 team trade list.

    CLAUSE SOURCE: https://www.capfriendly.com/players/kris-russell

    So it would appear it was designed to make him a tradeable asset in the last two years.Particularly to a team looking to take on cap space and a veteran player.IE teams with an internal budget or younger roster, like Arizona and Carolina or Winnipeg.

    (edited for grammar)

    It is easy to find 15 teams who cannot afford you under the cap, and put only them on the teams you will consent to be traded to.

    It is a four year NMC UNLESS you assume Russell is a moron. I assume he is an intelligent human being.

  86. defmn says:

    The fourth year of Russel’s contract has a $1 million signing bonus with a $2.5 million salary. The bonus must be paid in the summer before the season begins which means that if Russel is traded that summer the acquiring team will be saddled with the $4 million cap hit but only pay $1.5 million in salary. I would say that makes the contract tradeable if his play doesn’t totally deteriorate.

  87. defmn says:

    I read a lot of comments about how Russel’s $4 million cap hit is going to put this team in cap hell. I don’t think that is quite right.

    It is McDavid’s $12.5 million cap hit that is the reason for the Oilers facing cap problems for the duration of his contract.

    And this is not me saying he doesn’t deserve the money. I am not saying Chiarelli did a bad job. I am not saying he isn’t worth the contract or that he won’t earn it.

    I am saying that the reason there is so much talk about how the Oilers are about to have to find value contracts and can’t participate in high end UFA signings etc. is because McDavid is taking up such a large percentage of the cap.

    If people want to say that Russel isn’t worth $4 million that is one thing and a different discussion but it isn’t the reason why the Oilers are headed into cap trouble. That distinction belongs to McDavid’s contract.

  88. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    godot10,

    I still think Chiarelli has given himself a window of opportunity to trade the player at the time.

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