CONDORS COMING INTO VIEW

Although we’re early days in Oilers training camp, it’s not too early to make the call on most of the roster. That means we can also project the Bakersfield Condors roster and look at some tough battles for playing time.

GOALIES

  1. Nick Ellis (23). He played a lot (his 34 games for Bakersfield led the team) .918SP.
  2. Edward Pasquale (26). He has been generally effective over six AHL seasons.
  3. Shane Starrett (23). Good numbers at Air Force Academy (.924 and .925).

LEFT DEFENSE

  1. Ryan Stanton (28). I think we’ll see 10-20 games in the NHL, solid play the rest of the time in Bakersfield.
  2. Keegan Lowe (24). I think Lowe is going to push higher than people expect.
  3. Ziyat Paigin (22). The big Russian is going to see a lot of action in Bakersfield.
  4. Caleb Jones (20)Plenty of opportunities to move up the depth chart from the AHL.
  5. Ben Betker (22). Gigantic human (6.06, 228) turns 23 in the fall, so his time is now.

RIGHT DEFENSE

  1. Mark Fayne (30). Veteran defender could play an important mentor role and play some in the NHL.
  2. Dillon Simpson (24). A steady player and a possible recall to Edmonton.
  3. Ethan Bear (20). The best thing for him is probably an entire season in Bakersfield.
  4. Ryan Mantha (21). He impressed Oilers brass early in training camp, might get interesting.

CENTER

  1. Brad Malone (28). Malone is a fine checking center and a solid PK man and faceoff performer.
  2. Grayson Downing (25). 60 AHL games and 40-45 points for Bakersfield’s true skill center.
  3. Josh Currie (24). He will be a major player in Bakersfield and is likely to outperform at least one of the names above him.
  4. Kyle Platzer (22). Final season of entry deal, no idea how they’ll use him.
  5. Chad Butcher (21). Impressed during rookie camp.

LEFT WING

  1. Joey Laleggia (25). His impressive scoring ability after moving to forward should make Laleggia a feature player in Bakersfield.
  2. Joe Gambardella (23). He’s going to play a feature role in the AHL based on the current depth chart.
  3. Ryan Hamilton: AHL veteran may play lesser role.
  4. Evan Polei (21). Polei is a fascinating prospect, caught the Oilers attention in Penticton.
  5. Braden Christoffer (23). The rambunctious winger enters his third AHL season.
  6. Zach O’Brien. Mostly unknown to us, perhaps he sees time in Wichita.

RIGHT WING

  1. Ty Rattie (24). He can score goals at the AHL level, may get an NHL shot during the year.
  2. Mitch Callahan (26). Rugged winger with skill, he’ll play a lot.
  3. Patrick Russell (24). He had some bad shooting luck a year ago but played a lot and helped out in areas like the penalty kill. 
  4. Greg Chase (22). Agitating winger with some skill, will he play a lot? We wait.
  5. Brian Ferlin (25). He’s coming off some injury issues (that’s putting it mildly) so is a very difficult player to project.
  6. Dave Gust (23). AHL contract and an NCAA grad from Ohio State. Didn’t get an NHL invite, that might be telling.

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21 Responses to "CONDORS COMING INTO VIEW"

  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coach had some complementary things to say about Joey LaLeggia’s performance in camp today.

    I look for him to be 1LW with Callahan and Rattie and I’m very interested to see if he turns in to a real prospect that could potentially provide some top 6 offence to the Oilers in the future.

    What a find out of nowhere that would be.

    His arrow continues to point up early in camp.

  2. jtblack says:

    Just a Hunch; but I see Talbot or LB suffering an injury and Ellis playing / backing up quite a few games in NHL ……..

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    If there is a material injury to LB then, yes, Ellis should see material time.

    If there is a material injury to Talbot, I think that Chiarelli may look to acquire a more proven NHL goalie to help bridge the gap.

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    Its nice to have a veteran AHL goalie like Pasquale, the way the AHL schedule is set up – heavy on the weekends with 3 games in a row sometimes, the second goalie will generally get a material amount of games.

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Judging by the pairings today, Coach may have Stanton behind Lowe on the depth chart.

    Lowe was with Fayne whereas Stanton was subbing with Lagesson paired with Bear.

  6. hags9k says:

    jtblack,

    Now you please go sit in the corner.

  7. Richard S.S. says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    If there is a material injury to LB then, yes, Ellis should see material time.

    If there is a material injury to Talbot, I think that Chiarelli may look to acquire a more proven NHL goalie to help bridge the gap.

    This year that’s true. Next year is the test.

  8. jtblack says:

    hags9k,

    Bahahahahaha. Hope not of course; but usually one of the Top 2 will be injured at some point.

  9. Oil2Oilers says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Joey Laleggia emerging this year as a legit top 9 option the NHL next year, ala Slepyshev last year, would solve all kinds of problems.

    With Maroon likely to price himself of the roster and Benson, Safin, and Maksimov all long shots to be NHL players any time soon, if at all, Laleggia making it as a left winger would be perfect.

    Cap Friendly suggests he is waiver exempt this year so there is no excuse for the OIlers not to bring him up to the NHL for enough games to find out.

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oil2Oilers:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Joey Laleggia emerging this year as a legit top 9 option the NHL next year, ala Slepyshev last year, would solve all kinds of problems.

    With Maroon likely to price himself of the roster andBenson, Safin, and Maksimov all long shots to be NHL players any time soon, if at all, Laleggia making it as a left winger would be perfect.

    Cap Friendly suggests he is waiver exempt this year so there is no excuse for the OIlers not to bring him up to the NHL for enough games to find out.

    We are thinking along the same lines here.

    The likes of Safin and Maksimov (and Yamamoto) give me some confidence that we will have the young wingers to come in provide value on their ELC but the problem is we have a gap for next year.

    There is not guarantee the Yamamoto will be ready and he could need AHL time. Even if Benson has a healthy year and re-establishes himself as a real prospect, he likely needs AHL time. Safin and Maksimov are years away.

    If Joey L. can emerge, it would be huge.

    Hopefully he battles Rattie for a skilled injury call-up.

  11. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Won’t it be a few years for both of them before they have AHL eligibility?

    One for Benson, two for Kailer, two to three for Maksimov, and I think Safin would also be two years but he wasn’t drafted out of the CHL, only playing there.

  12. OriginalPouzar says:

    Professor Q:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Won’t it be a few years for both of them before they have AHL eligibility?

    One for Benson, two for Kailer, two to three for Maksimov, and I think Safin would also be two years but he wasn’t drafted out of the CHL, only playing there.

    Both Benson and Yamamoto are eligible for the AHL next year.

    Benson is already 19 and will be 20 at this time next year.

    Yamamoto turns 19 at the end of September and will be 20 prior to the year end cut-off.

  13. wheatnoil says:

    One thing about the Condors this year is they’re not a particularly young group. Especially at forward. There’s enough age here that it would be particularly disappointing if the group doesn’t make the playoffs, I would think.

  14. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Which is why I said one year for Benson. He isn’t playing in the AHL this year.

    Didn’t catch the December deadline until I looked into it. It’s different than the regular September 15th dealdine for 18 year olds. So complicated…

    Anyway, I think even then Edmonton might keep him in Spokane for a bit longer, then call him down to Bakersfield that year. Not right away.

  15. OriginalPouzar says:

    I don’t think the organization would send any material prospect back to junior that is eligible for the AHL.

    Kailer will be a pro next season.

  16. OriginalPouzar says:

    wheatnoil:
    One thing about the Condors this year is they’re not a particularly young group. Especially at forward. There’s enough age here that it would be particularly disappointing if the group doesn’t make the playoffs, I would think.

    They have some solid AHL veterans – they have the 3-4 rookie pro d-man (including Paigin who played pro in Russia but he’s a rookie pro in N. America) but they have Simpson (probably), Fayne, Stanton and Lowe to mentor them.

    Veterans like Mitch Callahan and even older rookies like Joe G. should really help.

    Eddie Pasquale as well – Ellis should be the clear starter but, with the AHL schedule, the 2nd goalie will play plenty.

  17. Munny says:

    Professor Q,

    Moto would also qualify for the A next year on the basis of completing 4 CHL seasons. The Oilers would likely not think there’s much point in him spending any part of a 5th season in Spokane. And it would be a bit of a slap in the face for a 1st rounder to start him back in Junior.

  18. N64 says:

    Believe or not but next year we could be discussing expansion implications for players not ready for the NHL. Another year in Juniors vs. grooming in the A for Seattle? 19/20 2nd pros would be eligible for the draft if Seattle joins for 20/21.

  19. OriginalPouzar says:

    That would presume that same rules applied as per the Golden Nights expansion draft which could very well be true.

    If Yamamoto turns pro for the 18/19 season, after the 19/20 season he will have just finished his second year pro and, presuming the same rules, would still be exempt from being picked by a 20/21 expansion draft team just like McDavid and Nurse were after finishing their second years of pro this past season.

  20. kgo says:

    I think the org should operate under the assumption that an expansion draft is always looming, and should always slide CHL prospects for two years simply to enhance development and improve their usefulness to the club during their ELC… whoever suggested it would be “a slap in the face” to a 1st like Yamamoto…great, added motivation, make these kids force their way onto the club.

    I’ve always been a fan of playing the kids for their 9 games and then shipping them back to juniors….Pietrangelo’s development was a prime example as the kid spent half the year with the big club, played 9 games spread out over two months, then went back just in time for the world junior tournament

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    kgo:
    I think the org should operate under the assumption that an expansion draft is always looming, and should always slide CHL prospects for two years simply to enhance development and improve their usefulness to the club during their ELC… whoever suggested it would be “a slap in the face” to a 1st like Yamamoto…great, added motivation, make these kids force their way onto the club.

    I’ve always been a fan of playing the kids for their 9 games and then shipping them back to juniors….Pietrangelo’s development was a prime example as the kid spent half the year with the big club, played 9 games spread out over two months, then went back just in time for the world junior tournament

    An extra year in junior when the AHL is an option is generally not the right move for the development of the prospect. Sure, the ELC will slide but development is paramount, especially at that age.

    The 9 games is only a legit option if the player has actually earned it and deserves real NHL games with a real chance of sticking in the lineup for the term. If that’s not the case, its providing a negative to the team’s ability to win hockey games that mean just as much in October as they do in March and also takes the job of another player and potentially subjects a player to waivers.

    There are situations where each of those strategies may prove the best, however, its a case by case determination and I can’t get on board with the broad development and contract valuation theories.

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