BLUE MONEY

The Edmonton Oilers are almost at 23, nothing left but the final pieces. Does the team send Anton Slepyshev to the minors for a week or so, while also signing Chris Kelly for the season? Or set Kelly free, keep Slepyshev in town and spot him as a fourth liner through October? Or, as many online suggest, should PC get aggressive and chase more substantial solutions?

PROJECTED OPENING NIGHT ROSTER

  • The lines are not in order but that isn’t the point of this exercise.
  • Sending Jesse Puljujarvi down relieves a lot of the cap issues. Seriously. Now, I think he’ll be back soon, but the gap between JP and Kailer Yamamoto’s potential bonuses is significant.
  • The team can LTIR Andrej Sekera but it’s a sticky wicket and those bonuses cannot be exceeded heading into the 97 mega-contract beginning 2018 fall. PC would need to run right up to the cap without the bonuses included, meaning it would be necessary to: Sign $8.6 million in talent today, LTIR Sekera and probably keep Puljujarvi in the minors until all of his bonus potential burns off. I don’t think he’s going to do it.
  • The club does have over $3M to spend, that could bring in a reasonable free agent. If the team were to sign someone in the $2.5 million range, that would leave enough cap room for the season. As an example, a veteran RW replaces Kailer Yamamoto (he of the $925,000 contract) and the team cuts into that $3,398,300 cap room but about $1.5 million. That’s the scenario that fits in my opinion, meaning no Jagr.

This is an interesting idea and fits with Peter Chiarelli’s modus operandi. Iginla could be trigger man on the power play and perhaps play on the Leon Draisaitl line, but speed would be an issue. Not certain this happens but it’s an interesting and reasonable rumor.

CHRIS KELLY

  • Todd McLellan on Chris Kelly: “We didn’t bring him here just to put him in a tryout situation, we brought him here because we believe he can still play in the league and contribute. It’s going to be an important exhibition season for him, we see him being a penalty killer, a third or fourth-line role player, with a ton of experience. Very fit and skates well.” Source
 The comments section may explode if the Oilers sign Chris Kelly but a rational look at the situation tells us this is going to be close. Kelly either gets a contract or is released in the next day or so, but he fills a need (veteran, can PK and play center) on the club and has some history with Peter Chiarelli.

KAILER YAMAMOTO

I think he might make it. Kailer Yamamoto is the most offensively qualified prospect in the system at this time and he displayed very good range during the preseason. Suspect we’ll see him opening night and possibly get some time on the power play. Nine games probably takes him to early November and his ability to think the game, while  keeping the puck heading in a good direction, makes him a unique teenager.
No matter what happens between today and the events after his ninth game played in the NHL this season, we are talking about an exceptional talent and an astute draft selection. A wonderful draft pick.

JESSE PULJUJARVI

You’d think JP would be the first recall from Bakersfield, but while he’s there it will be interesting to see who Gerry Fleming finds to be his center. There is no Anton Lander (who was an impact C at the AHL level last season) and really no obvious offensive pivot.
  • Brad Malone: He was 71gp, 11-17-28 in the AHL last year.
  • Grayson Downing: He went 59gp, 9-16-25 in two AHL stops.
  • Josh Currie: 67gp, 22-14-36 in 2016-17, played quite a bit with JP.
  • Kyle Platzer: He was 51gp, 1-7-8 but I swear he’s a better player.
  • Joe Gambardella: Cup of coffee saw him score 6gp, 1-2-3 at the end of the season.

I’ll guess Josh Currie as the first man up for Puljujarvi as a center and the big Finn was successful on a line with Joey Laleggia playing the other wing. The deepest spot in Bakersfield is RW, so that’s going to be an interesting situation. Ty Rattie would probably be 1R entering the season.

JAROMIR JAGR

I’m glad he’s back in the league and we’ll get to see him a lot this season. It was a beautiful dream but PC has been steadfast in looking at the department of youth during the entire camp. Start as you mean to go. As for Jagr in Calgary, I can’t cheer against him so it’s going to be an interesting winter.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A very busy weekend and lots of breaking news this morning. Scheduled to appear beginning at 10 this morning,TSN 1260.

  • Pierre Lebrun, TSN and The Athletic. Jagr to Calgary and various other moves that may take place.
  • Andy McNamara, TSN. Crazy NFL weekend, some gigantic upsets.
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. Eskimos free fall, Yamamoto makes the Oilers.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

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  1. The Concept JDî says:

    Jason Gregor‏Verified account @JasonGregor 3m3 minutes ago

    Injury to Sekera will have Chiarelli watching play of his D very closely. More likely to look for help there over RW. #Oilers

    Seems as though Peter isn’t even reasonably comfortable with the defense.

  2. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10: The Oilers don’t have tons of cap space.McDavid’s $3 million dollars in bonuses (which he is almost certain to earn) means that there is no cap relief from Sekera’s injury.It means LTIR is basically unavailable to the Oilers this year because the Oilers CANNOT risk a bonus overage this year.

    Therefore any available cap space is basically insurance space in case they get a significant injury and have to fill the hole.

    Accounting for the most probable bonuses I have them at $4MM in cap including Sekera.

    They have $10.78 in space right now with Sekera on the roster.

  3. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    The Concept JDî: Relax. The team is probably going to take the Pacific in a canter.

    LT needs to “book it” to help.

  4. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Last contract spot until Yamamoto goes to Spokane.

    With that said, yes, this is why I was against (and still am against) a Jagr signing – that contract spot should be used for a d-man acquisition in the next 27 hours.

    Now, if that contract spot is not used then my verbal on not getting Jagr may change (subject, again, to needing the contract spot for in-season transactions).

    I think the mistakes occur way before you find yourself painted into the corner.

  5. The Concept JDî says:

    Woodguy v2.0: LT needs to “book it” to help.

    Weird. I have no recollection of typing those letters in that configuration.

    Lost time experience on a Monday.

    checks for pods in the basement

  6. The Concept JDî says:

    Rick Dhaliwal‏ @DhaliwalSports

    Hearing possible Troy Brouwer trade out of Calgary. Not confirmed, just something heard.

    Dammit Chayka!

  7. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    russ99,

    As for the backlash, Chiarelli and McLellan were brought in to change the old boy culture and both have solid track records of success and cup rings

    As head coach and GM they have one ring between them. (one ring to bind them all?)

    Peter Chiarelli’s team won one more game in 2011 than Kevin Lowe’s team did in 2006.

    Peter’s team got a .940 SV% during that run.

    Kevin’s team got a .927 SV% from Rollie, .667 from Conklin in 5 minutes and .905 from Markanen.

    I like Peter “ok”, not great and I like McLellan for the most part too, but lets not rest too many laurels on their heads.

  8. LadiesloveSmid says:

    The Concept JDî:
    Rick Dhaliwal‏ @DhaliwalSports


    Hearing possible Troy Brouwer trade out of Calgary. Not confirmed, just something heard.

    Dammit Chayka!

    Flames:
    -Brouwer
    +Hamonic
    +Jagr

    Oilers:
    -Eberle
    -Sekera for 3-4 months
    +Strome
    +Russell for 4 more years

  9. The Concept JDî says:

    LadiesloveSmid,

    You forgot Kelly!

  10. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: “we paid him more than his comparables because he’s a center” – Peter Chiarelli

    After that VAN game I’d bet that McLellan wants to bank a few wins before putting 29 at C and putting 29 with 97 is the best way the roster offers him that.

    In order to get McLellan to play Burns at defense, Doug Wilson was forced to trade Jason Demers.

    I expect we won’t see Draisaitl at centre until Chiarelli figures out he has to trade Nugent-Hopkins to force a stubborn coach’s hand.

  11. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    frjohnk: Can I have mine back?

    Yes.

    Bring oven mitts, it will be lit.

  12. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Professor Q,

    Woodguy would have both a party and a conniption if both were acquired (yes, yes, I realize they wouldn’t be playing together in that case, and I’m only trying to be humorous). :p

    I’d need to get a new phone

  13. digger50 says:

    Osterle makes Chicago? Good for him.

    Wonder how he’d look as 6-7 D today.

    You know who else might have a good year at RW? Pitlick.

  14. Justthestatsman says:

    Hunter:

    Please put me down for 95 points. Thanks.

  15. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    vinotintazo:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    does it look any better if we add playoff pts? also Given Oilers depth at C, Leon is Money on RW.

    If they wanted to keep a dynamic winger I know one who works for $2.5MM less and produces better than 29 without a great center.

    *puts on helmet, hides in bunker, light’s Padre’s pitch on fire*

  16. Chachi says:

    godot10: In order to get McLellan to play Burns at defense, Doug Wilson was forced to trade Jason Demers.

    I expect we won’t see Draisaitl at centre until Chiarelli figures out he has to trade Nugent-Hopkins to force a stubborn coach’s hand.

    This, of course, like much of what you post about McLellan is not true.

    https://www.gacklereport.com/feature/defense-burns-key-beating-kings/

    https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/583568-sharks-coach-mclellan-on-burns-transition-to-defense-he-ll-be-an-all-star-defenseman-again

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/28/purdy-the-nhl-hasnt-seen-anything-like-brent-burns-in-25-or-30-years-or-maybe-ever/

    From the last link:

    “Burns’ effort was never in question but it took him a while to feel comfortable in the system of then-coach Todd McLellan. One season after a back injury, McLellan moved Burns to forward so that he would avoid the crunching forecheck hits defensemen often absorb. Burns eventually returned to defense but his former coach thinks there was a carryover.

    “I really believe that his year at forward helped him in what he’s doing now,” McLellan said. “I think it gave him a sense of where forwards are going to be as receivers, where they can tip pucks or redirect them. You can see him aiming at those receivers.””

  17. Side says:

    Chachi: This, of course, like much of what you post about McLellan is not true.

    https://www.gacklereport.com/feature/defense-burns-key-beating-kings/

    https://www.thescore.com/nhl/news/583568-sharks-coach-mclellan-on-burns-transition-to-defense-he-ll-be-an-all-star-defenseman-again

    http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/01/28/purdy-the-nhl-hasnt-seen-anything-like-brent-burns-in-25-or-30-years-or-maybe-ever/

    From the last link:

    “Burns’ effort was never in question but it took him a while to feel comfortable in the system of then-coach Todd McLellan. One season after a back injury, McLellan moved Burns to forward so that he would avoid the crunching forecheck hits defensemen often absorb. Burns eventually returned to defense but his former coach thinks there was a carryover.

    “I really believe that his year at forward helped him in what he’s doing now,” McLellan said. “I think it gave him a sense of where forwards are going to be as receivers, where they can tip pucks or redirect them. You can see him aiming at those receivers.””

    Just another example of McLellan being incompetent and not knowing how to handle individual players. Burns was a square peg who McLellan was trying to shove in a round hol-

    oh wait a minute. Nevermind.

  18. Chachi says:

    Side: Just another example of McLellan being incompetent and not knowing how to handle individual players. Burns was a square peg who McLellan was trying to shove in a round hol-

    oh wait a minute. Nevermind.

    If I had any intelligence I would feel like it was being insulted every time I make the mistake of reading those posts. It literally takes 30 seconds to disprove this crap.

  19. Georges says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Jagr breaks the age curve so he doesn’t count.

    This is why:

    EDM RW depth scoring last year:

    Caggulia 60gp – 18pts
    Sleppy 41gp – 10pts
    JP 28gp – 8pts
    Yamamoto – 0gp – 0pts

    Jagr – 82gp – 46pts

    I was hoping that once during McDavid’s ELC this team would stop being in re-build mode and maximize the number of Actual NHL players in all spots and hopefully have none playing above their head.

    I guess I gotta keep hoping.

    Caggiula, Slep, JP, and Yamamoto: Not Acutal NHL Players. Sad!

    Glad to see you have so much confidence in 45 year old Jagr to remain an impactful player for the Flames this season. A player may extend the age curve; no player breaks it. Age curve always wins.

    Also, you missed an RW. Jagr had 22 more points than Kassian, our 4RW. 13 of Jagr’s points were on the PP. Kassian had 0.

    You have very specific hopes. I hope the Oilers make the Finals this year. Gotta keep hoping too.

  20. OmJo says:

    The Concept JDî:
    Jason Gregor‏Verified account @JasonGregor 3m3 minutes ago


    Injury to Sekera will have Chiarelli watching play of his D very closely. More likely to look for help there over RW. #Oilers

    Seems as though Peter isn’t even reasonably comfortable with the defense.

    But this is the defence he gave himself… This is why we traded Eberle for a struggling 3C who can’t defend and signed an average 2LD for 4 years at $4M isn’t it?

    Edit: Fixed.

  21. OmJo says:

    Georges,

    Jagr at 45 years old had more points in Cagguila, Slepyshev and Puljujarvi. Combined. So one year of 46 year old Jagr would have by default very, very, very likely been a net positive in terms of RW performance.

    Jagr would be brought in to compete with those four players for a roster spot and ice time, not Kassian. Why the team seems content with Kassian being a 4RW beats me, I think he can be a Maroon-type top 6 player myself.

  22. OmJo says:

    Chachi,

    Is Lallegia the AHL Brent Burns?

  23. The Concept JDî says:

    OmJo,

    I posted that to address the comments about Chia standing pat with this defense, specifically the RD depth. And I think that Rusty has looked better on his native side, but I’m not trying to defend that contract.

  24. Lloyd B. says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Dammnit.

    Tom Petty.

    Such an amazing catalog and career.

    There were a couple of collaboration albums between Petty, Orbison, Harrison, and a few others I can’t think of off the top of my head. The Travelling Wilburys. Great stuff.

  25. SwedishPoster says:

    I was in the arena saturday when Djurgården played Skellefteå in the SHL aka Lagesson vs Berglund and thought I’d share my notes. It was a pretty entertaining, tight, good pace, surprisingly high emotions for an early season game. Djurgården won 4-2, sealing the deal with an empty netter. Skellefteå carried a lot of the play, especially for the first two periods but only had one line that created any substantial offense, djurgården won by being sharper and more determined in front of the net.
    As for the two prospects they both played a regular shift, Lagesson on the second, Berglund on the third pairing, they both played a lot of PK and no real PP time (some tail end seconds).

    Lagesson played a shade over 19 minutes on the 2nd pairing had two SOG, none of them really dangerous. I think he ended the night +2 but wasn’t a factor in any of the goals he was on for. He played a solid, solid game, great defensive coverage, strong on the boards, boxes out real well. Had a gorgeous shot block where he threw himself in front of the puck. Passed the puck well, he almost always opts for the safe play so his passing isn’t creative at all but he moves to safe spots. Had a few plays when he showed some ok hands but that’s not his game.
    He’s got good balance on his skates, his straight line skating is good though lacks the ability to kick in an extra gear midskate. His lateral mobility still needs work, in the SHL his positioning and gap control can compensate enough for him to not getting into too much trouble but at the higher level it is bound to be an issue.

    Berglund played a little over 16 minutes on the third pairingand was -1 on the night , he had a somewhat messy first period where he misplayed a couple of passes and lost his position on the GA ending up on the wrong side of his player who was the intended target for a pass that hit the goalie on the way and went in so his guy didn’t score but still a bad defensive play from him. Not a disaster of a period but a bit all over the place. He played much better in the second, moving the puck crisply, hit the post and had dangerous shot short handed all while playing good defensively. Had a real nice shot block on the PK. His team kind of faded in the third but he kept playing good D. One thing that surprised me was the number of defensive zone starts his pairing got, in particular in the third period, his partner Emil Djuse is a rover type of D and he’s a 20 yo who came up as a offensive D yet they seemed to be out for every D zone face off in the third. Part of that could be that the 2nd pairing (Ellis-Katic) was absolute garbage and Berglund tended to come on after them, but it was certainly coaching as well. I was also surprised at him being trusted a lot on a PK that still hasn’t let up a GA this season considering offense has been his calling card.
    He looks noticeably big on the ice, something he should use better, he is more physical than a year ago but there’s room for improvement. His skating is interesting in that his lateral mobility and backwards skating is good but his straight line skating is choppy and inefficient, imo his legs are too straight when going forward and I would prefer a deeper stance but I am no skating guru. He’s kind of opposite George to Lagesson in other ways than skating. While his positioning is usually ok he does have mental lapses where he ends up on the wrong side of his man, these lapses happens with the puck as well where he moves it well mostly and then suddenly makes an erratic pass out of nowhere and without pressure. This never happens in Lagesson’s game, he’s steady as a rock. On the other hand Berglund is way more creative with the puck, better at finding good offensive spots and lanes, despite both players being used as defensive D by their coaches Berglund finds more good ice offensively. Berglund also has a beauty of a shot, it’s hard, fairly accurate and he gets it off quickly. His wind up on the slap shot usually stays below his knees and he can still rip it.

    Lagesson is ahead at this point, he’s more mature and plays with far more confidence. I think he’s also more likely to find regular NHL duty but Berglund has tools that imo gives him the edge in upside. More of a project but a more intriguing tool set if things break right imho.

    Will be very interesting to see how these guys look later this season because both are in an interesting spot in terms of developement.

    And that’s all folks!

  26. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OmJo: But this is the defence he gave himself… This is why we traded Eberle for a struggling 3C who can’t defend and signed an average 4LD for 4 years at $4M isn’t it?

    Wouldn’t a 4LD be in the press box?

    You can make the case Russell is either a 2LD or a 4D, no need to overkill the situation any further than it has been already.

  27. frjohnk says:

    Woodguy v2.0: Yes.

    Bring oven mitts, it will be lit.

    Oven mitts?
    Pfft.
    I think I can bring better gear than that.

  28. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Concept JDî:
    PC also just said that they’ve instructed the Condors’ coaching staff about playing the prospects, specifically the young defenders.

    I know the Jones and Bear have been featured on the PP in exhibition.

  29. Bruce McCurdy says:

    SwedishPoster,

    Fantastic post, thanks!

    I really liked what I saw of Lagesson in Penticton and in the split squad game vs. Calgary. Definitely a project, but progress is being made.

  30. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Concept JDî:
    Jason Gregor‏Verified account @JasonGregor 3m3 minutes ago


    Injury to Sekera will have Chiarelli watching play of his D very closely. More likely to look for help there over RW. #Oilers

    Seems as though Peter isn’t even reasonably comfortable with the defense.

    This is what I’ve been saying for a while as well as this morning – sure, a Jagr would be nice to add some depth and experience to the right side but the more material add is at right defence and a contract spot/roster spot/cap space needs to be saved for that.

    If nothing is done, well, then not being in on Jagr at all is somewhat surprising and disappointing.

  31. frjohnk says:

    SwedishPoster:

    thanks for that

  32. Jethro Tull says:

    treevojo: 35 years as a GM and not one cup.

    I hesitate to call him great.

    Building a genuine contender from niff-naff and trivia, on a shoe-string (self-imposed) budget, garnering a great fan following in possibly the worst place for a hockey team in North America? That’s insane. There have been far worse GMs that have lucked into cups.

  33. OriginalPouzar says:

    LadiesloveSmid: Flames:
    -Brouwer
    +Hamonic
    +Jagr

    Oilers:
    -Eberle
    -Sekera for 3-4 months
    +Strome
    +Russell for 4 more years

    ‘Plus Jokinen, who, by the way, is likely to be just as a material player, if not more, than Jagr.

    Jokinen could easily put up as many points as Jagr, he plays multiple positions, he kills penalties, etc.

    Don’t forget, flames have zero picks until the 4th round – the Oilers have all their picks – this is important for the future and for this coming season.

  34. 99thoilerfan says:

    Hunter,

    Please add my my name and ” 99 ” points to your death march contest.

    Go Oil !

  35. Chachi says:

    OmJo:
    Chachi,

    Is Lallegia the AHL Brent Burns?

    a teeny tiny AHL Brent Burns

  36. frjohnk says:

    OriginalPouzar: Don’t forget, flames have zero picks until the 4th round – the Oilers have all their picks – this is important for the future and for this coming season.

    Flames have some really nice prospects, so its not like they dont have anything for the future or to use as currency for a trade.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    SwedishPoster,

    I love these updates – thank you so much.

  38. bendelson says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Has Osterle making the club or Franson getting a contract (soon enough) scared you off our proposed bet re: CHI making the playoffs? The bet hits all of my necessary requirements to make another wager with you (and put my perfect record to the test), so if you still want to bet against the Hawks, I’m game!

    Either way, let me know!

  39. Pescador says:

    OmJo: But this is the defence he gave himself… This is why we traded Eberle for a struggling 3C who can’t defend and signed an average 4LD for 4 years at $4M isn’t it?

    Place me firmly in the Frustrated camp,
    I’m ok with Russell covering the Sekera minutes & Benning covering the Russell minutes, but I don’t like Gryba covering the Benning minutes.
    Now that we have Nurse covering Gryba, who is covering Nurse?
    Gryba?
    If it doesn’t work out, then Chiarelli is going to address it.
    Perfect! I feel much better.
    I’m certain there will be Several quality defenders available at rock bottom prices,
    I’ll trade you Cody Franson for Nuge & top RHD prospect. FML

  40. Georges says:

    OmJo:
    Georges,

    Jagr at 45 years old had more points in Cagguila, Slepyshev and Puljujarvi. Combined. So one year of 46 year old Jagr would have by default very, very, very likely been a net positive in terms of RW performance.

    Jagr would be brought in to compete with those four players for a roster spot and ice time, not Kassian. Why the team seems content with Kassian being a 4RW beats me, I think he can be a Maroon-type top 6 player myself.

    I realize not signing Jagr is the crisis of the day. OK. I would subtract 3 very’s and possibly a likely from very, very, very likely. You believe you can make high probability statements about a soon to be 46 year old player switching teams to start the season. I don’t. Whatever happens, happens. But whatever happens to the Oilers this season won’t happen because we didn’t sign Jagr.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    frjohnk: Flames have some really nice prospects, so its not like they dont have anything for the future or to use as currency for a trade.

    As do the Oilers.

    Sure, they could trade a good prospect or two and then head to the draft with no picks in the first 4 rounds and a depleted prospect system – sounds good to me.

  42. fifthcartel says:

    The right wing looks very bad, and if Draisaitl is playing with 97 then the rest of the lineup scares me. The Oilers were averare to below average without 97 on the ice IIRC, and that was with Eberle. I don’t think Strome is a better player, but Jokinen is a nice add, but that’s still very concerning.

    I really don’t get why Chiarelli is betting so heavily on unproven NHL players in McDavid’s last ELC year. Honestly, that RW is embarrassing and Draisaitl should be playing center, which is why he said he got paid more than basically every comparable.

    The defense is suspect, too. Not a fan of Russell at all, but after Klefbom-Larsson is scary and I wouldn’t want Eric Gryba in the lineup every night. They need help on D and RW.

  43. Acumen says:

    Question for the class: is there any legitimate smoke to the ‘Chia looking at Colin Miller’ fire? News reports? Twitter posts? Messenger pigeons?

    He seems like a great, low risk bet, but it doesn’t make any sense for LV to trade him without RHD cover.

  44. OmJo says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Wouldn’t a 4LD be in the press box?

    You can make the case Russell is either a 2LD or a 4D, no need to overkill the situation any further than it has been already.

    Yeah, mixed up my numbers. I meant a top 4 LD ie 2nd pairing LD.

  45. OmJo says:

    Georges: I realize not signing Jagr is the crisis of the day. OK. I would subtract 3 very’s and possibly a likely from very, very, very likely. You believe you can make high probability statements about a soon to be 46 year old player switching teams to start the season. I don’t. Whatever happens, happens. But whatever happens to the Oilers this season won’t happen because we didn’t sign Jagr.

    It’s not just not signing Jagr. It’s not signing Jagr while seriously considering signing Kelly as our 5th contract and not getting another RHD instead [edit: while sending Yamamoto back to Spokane]

    Edit: To add, because I rushed this post while getting ready for work, even at 46 I think the odds of Jagr getting significantly worse offensively is unlikely. I can still see him putting up 40ish pts this season in a top 6 role, and for one year at $2M with bonuses, that would make the signing alone worth it.

    What are the odds that two of Slepyshev, Cagguila, and Puljujarvi outscore Jagr this season? They all have potential to, but a year of Jagr the team a backup plan if one or more don’t pan out this season.

  46. Georges says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    russ99,

    As for the backlash, Chiarelli and McLellan were brought in to change the old boy culture and both have solid track records of success and cup rings

    As head coach and GM they have one ring between them. (one ring to bind them all?)

    Peter Chiarelli’s team won one more game in 2011 than Kevin Lowe’s team did in 2006.

    Peter’s team got a .940 SV% during that run.

    Kevin’s team got a .927 SV% from Rollie, .667 from Conklin in 5 minutes and .905 from Markanen.

    I like Peter “ok”, not great and I like McLellan for the most part too, but lets not rest too many laurels on their heads.

    So Lowe’s track record as GM is comparable to PC’s track record as GM? PC just had that bit of luck with Thomas in his Stanley Cup year? Interesting comp.

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    PC did acknowledge the Sekera injury in the Gregor interview and was express that he will have a bit of a shorter leash with the defensive group.

    It sure sounds to me like he realizes the potential issue on the back-end.

    Maybe there isn’t an acquisition prior to the season but, if things aren’t looking good early, it sounds like he won’t be hesitant to make a move.

  48. Bruce McCurdy says:

    OmJo: Yeah, mixed up my numbers. I meant a top 4 LD ie 2nd pairing LD.

    OK, that’s a fair assessment. I’m just putting a finger to the wind of narrative to see which way the wind is blowing (and not necessarily that finger!).

    I, a relatively recent convert to the Woodguy Theory That Handedness Matters On Defence, am looking forward to seeing a stretch of Russell on his natural side. I thought he looked pretty good there in the preseason. Way fewer weak sauce dumps up the boards, or forehand ringarounds Back into his own zone for that matter.

  49. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    The Concept JDî: Weird. I have no recollection of typing those letters in that configuration.

    Lost time experience on a Monday.

    checks for pods in the basement

    weird, that’s hunter’s words
    I was trying to quote your curse on CGY

  50. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Georges: Caggiula, Slep, JP, and Yamamoto: Not Acutal NHL Players. Sad!

    Glad to see you have so much confidence in 45 year old Jagr to remain an impactful player for the Flames this season. A player may extend the age curve; no player breaks it. Age curve always wins.

    Also, you missed an RW. Jagr had 22 more points than Kassian, our 4RW. 13 of Jagr’s points were on the PP. Kassian had 0.

    You have very specific hopes. I hope the Oilers make the Finals this year. Gotta keep hoping too.

    Jagr wasn’t going to take Kassian’s spot so I didn’t include him.

  51. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Georges: So Lowe’s track record as GM is comparable to PC’s track record as GM? PC just had that bit of luck with Thomas in his Stanley Cup year? Interesting comp.

    I only spoke to The Cup.

  52. OmJo says:

    Bruce McCurdy: OK, that’s a fair assessment. I’m just putting a finger to the wind of narrative to see which way the wind is blowing (and not necessarily that finger!).

    I, a relatively recent convert to the Woodguy Theory That Handedness Matters On Defence, am looking forward to seeing a stretch of Russell on his natural side. I thought he looked pretty good there in the preseason. Way fewer weak sauce dumps up the boards, or forehand ringarounds Back into his own zone for that matter.

    Likewise!

  53. OmJo says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    I think I’m a mind reader 🤔

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