Game Four 2017-18: Senators at Oilers

What you don’t know (unless you were there) is that much of 1960’s HNIC viewing involved “getting a good picture” for the game. In places where there was no cable, which meant every place I lived, you had “rabbit ears” on the t.v. and or an odd looking antennae on the roof. This would lead to some hilarious moments. I well remember walking into my Grandma’s living room and hearing “STOP! STAND RIGHT THERE!” because the fuzz on the television gave a slightly better outline of Davey Keon as he moved up ice.

If the Leafs were on and Grandma had time for the game, things could get dicey. In winter, the antennae on the roof was a tad moody, meaning Grandpa would have to climb on the roof (in winter!) and adjust. This would lead to dangerous conversations with tempers, spills from the roof (into snow) and one million “I KNOW MARY!” rage screams. The things about the past that stay with you, all because my Aunt wanted to see Jim McKenny.

It seems like years since we’ve been here. The NHL helps women and men who live in the ice and snow keep time with the long march to spring. If I suggest G72 in any given season, and ask for a forecast, chances are anyone reading this would describe March in Alberta—anything from blizzard conditions to a false spring. Long pauses, like the one we just had, are irritating, like the times when we were kids and the bike chain would catch, almost correct, and then fall off the sprocket—thus requiring dismount and tedious (and filthy) minutes of repair. This week in Edmonton, we all got our sprockets in a knot because the town team wasn’t playing, and then we found out Leon’s got some ills. It’s a hard way when you find out the trouble is real.

PIKE’S PEAK, YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in October 2015: 0-3-0, goal differential -6
  • Oilers in October 2016: 2-1-0, goal differential +1
  • Oilers in October 2017: 1-2-0, goal differential -1

There’s nothing here that should send you to the rooftops, but after ten years of ‘money ran out and the engine blew’ I guess we can make allowances for feverish behavior. I was surprised by some reaction to Leon’s injury, not sure we should ever take eye injuries lightly at any time. Turns out there was even concussion talk and now we wait and worry.

WHAT TO EXPECT IN OCTOBER

  • At home to: Calgary (Expected: 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver  (Expected: 1-0-0) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Winnipeg, Ottawa, Carolina (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Chicago, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Dallas, Washington (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-3-2, 12 points in  10 games 
  • Current results: 1-2-0, 2 points after three games

The Oilers are on pace for 10 points in 10 October games, I projected 12 so the early record can easily be righted with a win tonight and then another four points (three games) in the coming week. The injury to Leon, added to Andrej Sekera’s being out, has the Oilers’ roster thin in some very important places just as the schedule begins to get busy. I think Todd McLellan will look to his veterans.

PROJECTED LINEUP

  • The LW-C lineup for the top three lines is falling into place nicely, but RW is building a mystery.
  • Kailer Yamamoto is the most talented offensive R, Zack Kassian has the most experience and Anton Slepyshev is the most intriguing. Everyone has a strong opinion on one or the other, but I never have in terms of this year. If we’re talking long term, I have an answer for you. This season? I just don’t have a favorite.
  • Anton Slepyshev has a howitzer, it makes a funny sound. In that way he is similar to Mark Stone, who also has a heavy shot. You always want a shooter who is prolific, but Stone’s rookie year (6.85 shots-per-60 at 5×5) and Slepyshev’s (7.41 shots-per-60 at 5×5) are reasonable comparables. I’m not comparing them as players overall, one thing Slepy could learn from the Senators’ winger is getting to the net dozens of times a game.
  • Zack Kassian has better speed and hands than people think he does, wouldn’t count him out as a possibility. I wrote about just that thing at The Athletic last week.
  • I mentioned Todd McLellan will probably go to the whip with his veterans tonight, Jussi Jokinen and Ryan Strome are two guys who could really help out with strong performances.
  • Darnell Nurse will apparently move up to play with Kris Russell on the second pair, sending at least one Lowetide poster to the ledge with candles! Edmonton decided this summer to run with this group until Andrej Sekera returns, and there are going to be some chaotic nights. Perhaps this is one. The pair had reasonable numbers a year ago but in just 32 minutes (via Puck IQ).
  • Klefbom-Larsson may have to play the whole game.
  • Yohann Auvitu is slated to make his Oilers’ debut, my guess is he will have the most positive impact on the 5×4.
  • Cam Talbot has not yet stolen a game for the Oilers this season. Perhaps this evening.

SEAN TIERNEY’S WORK

Sean Tierney does fantastic work (lots of it here) and he often tweets the best stuff you’ll read in a specific day about the NHL as a whole and (sometimes)the Oilers specifically. The McDavid line is going to miss Leon until he returns, important not to lose too much of the edge 97 should naturally bring. Tierney is an example of the great works you can find on twitter.

BAKERSFIELD CONDORS GAME THREE

  • The Condors are running four AHL-only contracts (Ryan Hamilton, Josh Currie, Chad Butcher, Dave Gust) and those forwards have been playing a lot.
  • Meanwhile, NHL-contracts Braden Christoffer (one game), Greg Chase (no games) and Kyle Platzer (Wichita) are not getting a push.
  • Defense is a little different, all eight men are somewhat attached to the organization.
  • I think Christoffer, Chase, Platzer and Betker are in tough right now. I’ve always felt Greg Chase had the best chance of that group to make it, this is a big season for all four men. Platzer may have an advantage in that he is actually playing in Wichita (train don’t run out of Wichita, unlessin’ you’re a hog or a cattle. People train runs out of Stubbville). He scored 1-1-2 last night for the Thunder (great follow here).

OILERS TEAM STATS

  • Corsi for 5×5: 56.82 (No. 5 overall)
  • Fenwick for 5×5: 57.94 (No. 3)
  • Shots for percentage 5×5: 56.80 (No. 5)
  • Scoring chances for 5×5: 58.39 (No. 5)
  • Goals for percentage 5×5: 45.45 (No. 19)
  • High Danger scoring chances 5×5: 56.67 (No. 9)
  • Source

MCDAVID WOWY

  • Oilers overall Corsi for 5×5: 175-133 (56.82)
  • Connor McDavid on ice Corsi for 5×5: 78-45 (63.41)
  • Oilers without McDavid on ice Corsi for 5×5: 97-88 (52.43)

I view those numbers as being a positive. One year ago, McDavid’s number was 53.07 (1332-1178) and he closed like a demon on his chances. Without McDavid? Edmonton was 48.38 (2,331-2,487). Early days, but encouraging at sunrise.

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  1. SK Oiler Fan says:

    I seem to remember someone in these parts was worried about the PK.

  2. OmJo says:

    Dino:
    I would think it very unfair if Tmac got fired because of this start. The roster just doesn’t have the necessary balance to compete. There’s only so much you can do when you have two 3rd pairing D pairs and an AHL level RW. Not to mention a useless bottom 6.

    Tmac didn’t choose to start the season without sekera and no viable replacement.

    Tmac didn’t choose to trade away our only legitimate top 6 RW and not bring in any kind of NHL level talent replacement for the wing.

    He’s far from a perfect coach but this start is more reflective on Chiarelli’s than anyone else. He had an expansion team giving away players for picks all offseason plus a free agency period and he chose not to pick up any insurance in key roster positions. He had the means and the opportunity to put together a better more balanced team in Mcdavid’s final ELC year and he chose to be passive. This is the price you pay I guess.

    This^

  3. OmJo says:

    hunter1909: Skype?

    Skype would be face to face, kinda.

    I’m thinking WhatsApp.

  4. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    russ99,

    Stop!

    Don’t you understand that none of that matters anymore because apparently the Lowetide blog loves Eberle now. Sure we could dig up the game threads from the playoffs (especially after board play against Perry) but no we won’t do that.

    If some folks wanna bail from the ledge go nuts, I’m sure the Leafs will welcome the bandwagon jumpers

  5. Dino says:

    With all that being said I still think we’re better off waiting 20 games to evaluate this team. It’s 4 games in. 1 good game, 3 ugly games. There’s still a lot of talent and potential on this team. Last year wasn’t a fluke. Let’s give them some time to figure this out.

    I am nervous though.

  6. texmex says:

    So if I read the comments correctly, the Oilers lost tonight because we traded eberle??? Get a grip people. The Oilers overachieved last season due to career years from multiple players. Oilers will make the playoffs. From there anything can happen. 2rd needs to be addressed yesterday though

  7. hunter1909 says:

    OmJo: Skype would be face to face, kinda.

    I’m thinking WhatsApp.

    Now that you mention it, MacT probably felt wonderful knowing that any time he chose to push a button that Krueger would just go away somehow.

  8. Professor Q says:

    This paired with being a Browns fan has my early season woes hitting a bit harder.

    I guess I just need to practice patience. Edmonton at least had a chance to improve.

    Just odd that they haven’t been scoring like every other team has! Can’t believe they’re worse than even Vegas.

  9. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Issues contributing to poor last 3 games:
    Goaltending
    PK
    PP
    Secondary scoring

  10. hunter1909 says:

    I’m pretty well resigned to the reality that RNH at 6 million and without any offence worth counting on is the new Horcoff.

  11. TheVengeFulOne says:

    On the plus side, Rasmus Dahlin was a perennial all-star on my nhl16 team. Got up to 92 OVR iirc.

  12. texmex says:

    hunter1909:
    I’m pretty well resigned to the reality that RNH at 6 million and without any offence worth counting on is the new Horcoff.

    Yet there will be outcry when he is traded for a bag of pucks with 25% salary retained. He is not a center. 2lw at best

  13. Professor Q says:

    TheVengeFulOne:
    On the plus side, Rasmus Dahlin was a perennial all-star on my nhl16 team. Got up to 92 OVR iirc.

    Might have to go with Svechnikov or Tkatchuk.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    texmex: Yet there will be outcry when he is traded for a bag of pucks with 25% salary retained. He is not a center. 2lw at best

    Hall…Yakupov…flushing 1st Overall picks does that to a fan base.

  15. digger50 says:

    Dino:
    I would think it very unfair if Tmac got fired because of this start. The roster just doesn’t have the necessary balance to compete. There’s only so much you can do when you have two 3rd pairing D pairs and an AHL level RW. Not to mention a useless bottom 6.

    Tmac didn’t choose to start the season without sekera and no viable replacement.

    Tmac didn’t choose to trade away our only legitimate top 6 RW and not bring in any kind of NHL level talent replacement for the wing.

    He’s far from a perfect coach but this start is more reflective on Chiarelli’s than anyone else. He had an expansion team giving away players for picks all offseason plus a free agency period and he chose not to pick up any insurance in key roster positions. He had the means and the opportunity to put together a better more balanced team in Mcdavid’s final ELC year and he chose to be passive. This is the price you pay I guess.

    Yes.

    Chia stated defence wasn’t up to Stanley caliber, but then his choices have been …interesting.

    Opportunities were available. But the plan was “let’s see how it goes”

    Now the scary part is do we get better or worse after Peter makes a trade. Worse case scenario is a trade makes us marginally better this year, but will cost us heavily looking ahead a year or two.

  16. Gret99zky says:

    SK Oiler Fan:
    Issues contributing to poor last 3 games:
    Goaltending
    PK
    PP
    Secondary scoring

    Also:
    Luck
    Poor Reffing
    Potential and actual injuries
    Imbalance

  17. OmJo says:

    TheVengeFulOne:
    On the plus side, Rasmus Dahlin was a perennial all-star on my nhl16 team. Got up to 92 OVR iirc.

    Haha, that reminds me. When my new laptop comes in I’m going to start an Oilers campaign on this game called Franchise Hockey Manager 4, and see if I can do a better job that Chiarelli in turning the Oilers into a contender starting in the 15-16 season, at least virtually.

  18. texmex says:

    hunter1909,

    Don’t get me wrong, RNH is a useful player but not at center. Blows my mind that Oilers management can’t see this. He’s been in the league 6+ years for f$&k sakes. I know we had no choice tonight with Drai out but RNH at center must end

  19. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    texmex,

    What?

    I mean this isnt factually true

  20. squeezboks says:

    Sens played the Guy Boucher defense first system to a tee.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_lNo5JWkRY

  21. OmJo says:

    texmex,

    RNH is a solid 2C. Might have had a poor game tonight (I only caught the last half of the 3rd period) but he’s a legitimate top 6 centre.

  22. OmJo says:

    Bobby Ryan’s face when that dude said he expected him to get 80-100pts was awesome lol

  23. McSorley33 says:

    SK Oiler Fan,

    Yeah, but their pre-game skate is beautiful…..

  24. texmex says:

    OmJo,

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. IMO a 2c should be able to win a faceoff, carry the play and set up scoring chances. But let’s give him a few more years, after all he’s only 24.

  25. Chachi says:

    Nurse was great tonight.

    Oilers have had 2, 5, 2 and 3 PPs respectively in the first 4 games. That’s not many PPs considering there is a supposed crackdown going on. That could account for some of the lack of goal scoring. Of course they would have to do something on the PP once they get one…

  26. OmJo says:

    texmex:
    OmJo,

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. IMO a 2c should be able to win a faceoff, carry the play and set up scoring chances. But let’s give him a few more years, after all he’s only 24.

    He’s not a ‘river pusher’… He’s not the best faceoff C in the league, but he’s really our only capable two-way C at the moment. Give him a W that can drive the play and he’d be better offensively. Just my opinion.

    But it’s late, so let’s agree to disagree.

  27. CrazyCoach says:

    Alright,

    Let me preface this by saying I like TMac as a coach. He’s got a style that works with young players.

    I’m not saying firing him would fix this teams ills, but there is no hard fast rule on how to operate a hockey team. This blog is an outlier in that it is made up mostly of people who think rationally and thoughtfully, often backed by research and hard data. It is the exception to the rule. I honestly think if the Oilers management would read this, (And I pray they do), they need to understand that there are glaring holes in this lineup.

    I see that.

    However, my experience is that losing streaks often bring out the worst in the most rational hockey people.

    When that happens, for whatever reason, more often than not it is caused by rumours and remarks made from irrational mouths. Players hear it and they react.

    When it gets to that, the knives come out.

    Who is the easiest to change?

    The coach.

    It’s the cruelty of the profession.

  28. season not played says:

    Lucic McDavid JP
    Maroon draisaitl strome
    Jokinien RNH kassian
    Khaira letestu slepyshev

    Russel Larsson
    Klefbom Fayne
    Nurse Benning

  29. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    I can find no reason the Oilers should lose this game.

    Obviously I didn’t take into account “team will play like horseshit”

    I think Chiarelli should trade more scoring for intangibles.

    Goals are too tangible.

    .
    .
    …*checks roster*…….

    Hmmmm, that option’s not available anymore…..

  30. season not played says:

    Not sure what it’s going to take to get to that but the team needs to get over its pre conceived notion of its “pairs”.

  31. rickithebear says:

    Offence/Defence
    Corsi – (blocks + misses) = Shots

    I appear:
    Ist defensive differentiation
    LD shots and HD shots shot density; Expected goals

    Corsi x,y – (blocksx,y + Missesx,y) = Shots x,y
    Offensively want high% HDSH
    Defensively want high% LDSH

    Corsix,y based on sum of Location success
    Blocksx,y based on X,y point of corsi blocked (0% chance)
    Misses x,y based on x,y point of corsi missed (0% chance)

    2nd differentiation
    Open shot: requires accelerated movement
    Claosed shot Hits goalie

    LDSH closed (0% chance)
    LDSH open

    HDSH closed (0%chance)
    HDSH open

    A league average shot chart based on only open shot performance gives a much more dramatic fail and succeed picture.

    goalies would love to see LDSH Closed as much as possible.
    NJD D in Playoffs:
    93-94 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Driver, Albelin, Fetisov
    94-95 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Driver, Albelin; Chambers Cup win Broduer .927
    96-97 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Chambers Odelein, Ellett RD2 BR .929
    97-98 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Odelein, Dean, Bodger RD1 Broduer .927
    98-99 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Odelein, Dean RD1 Broduer .856
    99-00 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, White, Malakov Cup Win Broduer .927
    00-01 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, White, O,Donnell Finals Broduer .897
    01-02 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, Albelin, White RD 1 Broduer .938
    02-03 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, Albelin, White, Tverdovsky Cup Win BR .934
    03-04 Niedermeyer; Rafalski, Albelin, White; P. Martin; Giroux RD 1 Broduer .902 RD1
    05-06 Rafalski, White; P. Martin, Lukowich; Matvichuk; Hale; Klee RD 2 BR in RD 2 .891

    Can you tell the years he was asked to deal with OpenHDSH
    he was an very lucky avg Open HDSH goalie.
    No one went inside the perimeter.
    fear is a powerful thing.

  32. Professor Q says:

    OmJo: Haha, that reminds me. When my new laptop comes in I’m going to start an Oilers campaign on this game called Franchise Hockey Manager 4, and see if I can do a better job that Chiarelli in turning the Oilers into a contender starting in the 15-16 season, at least virtually.

    How’s this game vs. NHL 18? Can you make an expansion team/relocate etc. or is it set in its ways?

  33. rickithebear says:

    Forward Pairs with Best Wowy: 15-16 to 16-17
    it aint rocket sience:
    Maroon- Mcdavid
    Mcdavid – Draisatl
    Draisatl – Slepyshev
    Lucic-JP
    Caggulia – Kassian

    Maroon-Mcdavid -XXX
    XXX- Draisatl – Slepyshev
    Lucic – XXX- JP
    Cagulia – XXX-Kassian

  34. cc says:

    Well, it’s evident Eberle was the problem – glad we got rid of him?

  35. season not played says:

    Four games in and roster construction getting questioned. Perfect.

    They just need to reset. Broke camp with the wrong 23 players.

  36. cc says:

    hunter1909:
    I’m pretty well resigned to the reality that RNH at 6 million and without any offence worth counting on is the new Horcoff.

    It’s not just the nuge, its the system the coach runs. It disarms these skilled players of their natural tendencies.

  37. digger50 says:

    season not played:
    Four games in and roster construction getting questioned. Perfect.

    They just need to reset. Broke camp with the wrong 23 players.

    Well I’m sure they will do better after a reset.

    However this questioning of the roster started late June to be fair. Some were believers, others not so much.
    Me not so much, but the team is still much better than they are playing.

  38. OmJo says:

    Professor Q: How’s this game vs. NHL 18? Can you make an expansion team/relocate etc. or is it set in its ways?

    It’s like Be a GM mode on steroids lol. Though I haven’t played an EA game since NHL 16 on my 360 so I’m not sure how much it’s changed over the years.

    I’m not too sure if you can add expansions into the NHL specifically, I know you can do it in custom leagues. You can customize the leagues quite a bit in “commissioner mode” but I’d have to get back to you on that. I’d have to sim until July 1 to do league edits and on my computer that’ll take all night.

    EA refuses to develop their NHL series for PC so FHM 4 and the new Eastside Hockey Manager are about all that’s available for hockey sims.

  39. OmJo says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I can find no reason the Oilers should lose this game.

    Obviously I didn’t take into account “team will play like horseshit”

    I think Chiarelli should trade more scoring for intangibles.

    Goals are too tangible.

    .
    .
    …*checks roster*…….

    Hmmmm, that option’s not available anymore…..

    Nuuuuge!

  40. Iztok Turk says:

    Long time reader – in/frequent poster.

    Cohesion is missing – they are not playing as a team.

    Not sure this can be blamed on Cambot

  41. treevojo says:

    OmJo: Nuuuuge!

    Well Nuge does have twice as many goals as Hall and Eberle combined this year.

  42. OmJo says:

    Professor Q,

    Just for fun, simmed October of this season.

    Oilers are 1-9-0

    6-3 over Calgary in Game 1 is the only W. Lol.

  43. OmJo says:

    treevojo,

    So let’s trade him for Tyson Barrie!

  44. who says:

    I’m willing to give them 20 games before I start bitching too much. Talbot is gonna have to play better, Klefbom struggled tonight, Auvitu looks good when oilers have the puck and bad when they don’t, half the forwards look like they are skating in quicksand.
    On the positive side, Nurse/Russell were fine tonight, in fact they were the best pairing. That’s all the positives I can find

  45. TheVengeFulOne says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I can find no reason the Oilers should lose this game.

    Obviously I didn’t take into account “team will play like horseshit”

    I think Chiarelli should trade more scoring for intangibles.

    Goals are too tangible.

    .
    .
    …*checks roster*…….

    Hmmmm, that option’s not available anymore…..

    I think Nuge could be turned into a number 5 rhd who can play top 4 until Sekera comes back.

  46. TheVengeFulOne says:

    cc:
    Well, it’s evident Eberle was the problem – glad we got rid of him?

    Eberle was too big too play RW with connor. Too proven.

  47. Craig Zonit says:

    Me this afternoon: Trust the process.

    Me tonight: Burn it down.

  48. TheVengeFulOne says:

    rickithebear:
    Offence/Defence
    Corsi – (blocks + misses) = Shots

    I appear:
    Ist defensive differentiation
    LD shots and HD shots shot density; Expected goals

    Corsi x,y – (blocksx,y + Missesx,y) = Shots x,y
    Offensively want high% HDSH
    Defensively want high% LDSH

    Corsix,ybased on sum of Location success
    Blocksx,y based on X,y point of corsi blocked (0% chance)
    Misses x,y based on x,y point of corsi missed (0% chance)

    2nd differentiation
    Open shot: requires accelerated movement
    Claosed shot Hits goalie

    LDSH closed (0% chance)
    LDSH open

    HDSH closed (0%chance)
    HDSH open

    A league average shot chart based on only open shot performance gives a much more dramatic fail andsucceed picture.

    goalies would love to see LDSH Closed as much as possible.
    NJD D in Playoffs:
    93-94 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Driver, Albelin, Fetisov
    94-95 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Driver, Albelin; Chambers Cup win Broduer .927
    96-97 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Chambers Odelein, EllettRD2 BR .929
    97-98 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Odelein, Dean, BodgerRD1 Broduer .927
    98-99 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko Odelein, Dean RD1 Broduer .856
    99-00 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, White, MalakovCup Win Broduer .927
    00-01 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, White, O,Donnell Finals Broduer .897
    01-02 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, Albelin, White RD 1 Broduer .938
    02-03 Stevens; Niedermeyer; Daneyko, Rafalski, Albelin, White, Tverdovsky Cup Win BR .934
    03-04 Niedermeyer; Rafalski, Albelin, White; P. Martin; Giroux RD 1 Broduer .902 RD1
    05-06 Rafalski, White; P. Martin, Lukowich; Matvichuk; Hale; Klee RD 2 BR in RD 2 .891

    Can you tell the years he was asked todeal with OpenHDSH
    he was an very lucky avg Open HDSH goalie.
    No one went inside the perimeter.
    fear is a powerful thing.

    Where are you getting the x,y data? I would love to play with it. Are you defining high danger off a certain set of x,y, or are you using euclidian distance?

  49. hoser313 says:

    Deserved to lose – but not 6-1.

    Couple flukey goals, terrible reffing, and that constant beer-league hockey problem – nobody picking up the third forward…..

  50. hoser313 says:

    squeezboks,

    Thx for posting that. Wasn’t watching to see if Sens were using that.

  51. OmJo says:

    Professor Q,

    So apparently it sims quicker than I thought. To answer your questions: Yes, you can add an expansions team. AFAIK you can only add one, so the NHL will have 32 teams. You can’t fold teams. As for relocating, you can but you can’t. You can change any team into whatever you want, to play wherever you want, but you can’t move them to a difference division or conference unfortunately. I relocated the Oilers to Quebec City and remanded them the Nordiques but they were still a Western Pacific team. So it does have some limitations.

  52. godot10 says:

    #MediocrityIsADifferentKindOfHell….but #GoodGodDamn, #GoodGodDman, I seem to be having flashbacks of being #LostInDementorville.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKew61xGaz8

  53. Lucinius says:

    Missed the game due to work. Looks like that wasn’t a bad thing. Not even going to talk about the team, honestly. Hopefully they get their shit together.

    Kind of amusing the only Oiler that can match Nail Yakupov in points is Connor McDavid, though!

  54. Munny says:

    Chachi: Nurse was great tonight.

    Yes. Haven’t seen his numbers yet, but I thought he played better than the average Oiler.

    I’d say the same for Moto too.

  55. Munny says:

    One of our team’s problems–and I think puck management is a big one–

    –is offense from the defense.

    Many have been focused on the defensive side of the puck with the Sekera injury, but we can’t score to save our lives. This might be luck over the full 3 games, but tonight we looked like a team with shaky confidence. Feeling the pressure. A team that could use scoring first.

    And No Sekera to help out the middle lines.

    And No Sekera kills the 2nd power play.

    Ain’t lookin good.

    Also, one of these days we need to learn how to regularly beat trap teams. Last night was not that day.

    Never bet on the Oil when playing a boring team. Can’t possibly be successful in the long run.

  56. Munny says:

    I don’t know how we quantify the Sekera loss fully, but I hypothesize there’s a big difference in possession change compared to his replacements.

  57. Dunduress says:

    Munny,

    I agree. I thought that many players looked bad to disinterested tonight, but I feel like I was constantly noticing Nurse doing good things and Yams making smart play/some confident offensive plays that I haven’t seen a lot of from him yet.

    In terms of the team, it probably shouldn’t surprise us that this team is struggling at the moment and specifically this game. Between the schedule, injuries, and bleeding proven scoring every offseason, things add up. I have faith in this team, but a part of me can see how this team is relying on health and Mcdavid to a greater extent than I would like. It seems like Chia’s actual plan may be to build a team that has very little consistent scoring, other than McDavid/Drai, and hope that Talbot/team defence can hold teams to slightly less than McDavid/Drai can score. The formula appears to be simple, but is it unique enough to take us where we want to be (Stanley)? Do you need to build a truly unique team in a league of parody? Does having McDavid automatically make your team unique enough that you can get away with an average team surrounding him? Do other teams rely on specific players as much as the Oilers,(McDavid, Talbot being the most notable)?

    I don’t have the answers to these questions. The start of this season may just be a mirage, and everything Chia has built could be what brings the cup back to Edmonton. However, I feel like it is good to have these discussions. Personally I would prefer to build a team that can score like silly, with scoring spread throughout the lineup. A team that creates mismatches because of what Lowetide and others call “Unicorns”. A team that Edmonton could have been with a different direction. Which is not to say that we cannot get there, but is that the plan?

    Overall, this team has two guys who should form the one of the best D pairings in the league, a great goalie (this start notwithstanding), and a depth chart at centre that most teams can’t match, with McDavid being the top that makes this team significant. That is probably the best way to build your core, all up the middle. But will the surrounding cast ever be cup contender worthy and will we see addition to this team instead of subtraction due to cap, or whatever the reason may be? It’s hard to say because I’m not confident that Chia won’t walk into next offseason, unload Nuge, and continue the cycle of this team losing the things that make them unique. Right now we have a core that can take us places, surround them properly, and hope that this start is a fluke (which I lean towards). We wait.

  58. OriginalPouzar says:

    Some of us had some worry going in to the season that the team wasn’t as good as their press clippings and that the Sekera injury was going to be extremely material.

    Those things have come to fruition.

    Added to that:

    1) McDavid has been meh in 2 of his 4 games and terrible in 1 of the 4 – didn’t count on that

    2) The two material forward acquisitions have been non-existent (Strome) to bad (Jokinen)

    3) The goaltender cannot make an important save

    These things were not counted on.

    Its not time to panic but things do need to turn around quickly or it will be too late.

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    Anywys, time to move on from that stinker (again) and focus on the Canes.

    Hope Drai is feeling better soon.

    GO OILERS!

  60. frjohnk says:

    Last year we had two stretches of 3 losses in a row or more, so one more and we hit last years quota. Just like last year during those losing streaks, poor shooting % for the Oilers, good to great plays by the opposition, special teams in a funk, along with not good goaltending are the similarities. Oh yeah, many of the fan base on the ledge.

    Oilers are
    1st in corsi 59.4%
    OK, dont like corsi, how about shots, they are 6th in shots for % with 56% shot share
    dont like shots, how about shot attempts from the slot? Oilers are 2nd with 62% of the shot attempts from the slot share.

    If the Oilers were at the bottom of the league in the advanced stats with 1 win in 4 games, then Id be looking at the 2018 draft class, but we are not that that point, as the foundation of a good team is there and its in the advanced stats. The Oilers are just in a losing stretch, which every good to great team will go through. It just happens that this losing stretch is happening right at the beginning of the season.

    And this does happen to good teams.

    Just for reference, in 16-17, the class of the Pacific division ( the Ducks) started out with 4 straight losses.

    The year before? The Ducks had 1 win in their first 10 games.

    Both years, they ended up 1st in the Pacific.

  61. frjohnk says:

    We will get out of this funk, Im more concerned about the injuries. Having Sekera and Draisaitl out is a big blow

    If we have injury trouble like in 15-16, we do not make the playoffs.

  62. Dunduress says:

    frjohnk,

    That is some dominant possession. I wonder if this is how LA feels most years? Not that we are them, but still, it’s funny how things work.

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