G19 2017-18: Blues at Oilers

The Edmonton Oilers are 3-1-1 in their last five games and every journey has to begin with that first step. After five weeks elevator shaft falling, perhaps the tumblers clicked and there’s a brand new day. We’ll know by the end of the month, it’s no easy road. McDavid’s line, Nuge’s line, Talbot and good special teams are the key. Cammalleri arrives soon, possibly tonight.

THE ATHLETIC

The special Lowetide offer is here. New material today.

PIKES PEAK

  • Oilers in November 2015: 3-4-1, goal differential -1
  • Oilers in November 2016: 2-5-1, goal differential -9
  • Oilers in November 2017: 4-3-1, goal differential +4

G9 in 2015-16 was a 1-0 loss to the Washington Capitals and last year it was a 4-2 loss to the Los Angeles Kings. God, no wonder I kept quoting Edmund Fitzgerald lyrics every November. Sheesh! Very important to post a strong number this month, and as their are 16 games, a win total of eight or nine is possible (although I have projected seven). Can this team gain more ground in November?

AFTER 18, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 6-12-0, goal differential -11
  • Oilers 16-17: 9-8-1, goal differential -1
  • Oilers 17-18: 7-9-2, goal differential -7

G19 in 2015-16 was a 4-3 OT loss to Chicago and last year a 5-2 win over Dallas courtesy a McDavid hat trick. That win over the Stars ended a miserable run for last season’s team. A win tonight for the Oilers and I’m going to stop doing prep for draft articles!

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM NOVEMBER

  • At home to: Pittsburgh, New Jersey, Detroit (Expected: 2-1-0) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • On the road to: NYI, New Jersey, NYR, Washington (Expected: 1-2-1) (Actual: 2-1-1)
  • At home to: Vegas, St. Louis (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual: 1-0-0)
  • On the road to: Dallas, St. Louis, Detroit, Buffalo, Boston (Expected 2-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Arizona, Toronto (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 7-7-2, 16 points in 16 games 
  • Current results: 4-3-1, nine points in eight games

Eight games left in the month and 15 days to do it. Road mostly, I have it 3-4-1 for this Edmonton team now through the end of the month. That would put the club 10-13-3, not good enough. That January+ schedule is much easier but Edmonton needs to stay within striking distance. Important two weeks ahead.

OILERS POSSIBLE LINEUP

  • It’s good to see five (now six) men posting over 2.00/60 at 5×5 scoring.
  • I don’t know what the lines will look like, but will guess Mike Cammalleri plays with Ryan Strome this evening.
  • Yohann Auvitu is a fun, interesting player. It’ll take years for me to get he and Drake Caggiula figured out. One of them needs to change numbers.
  • Jesse Puljujarvi needs something good to happen. He arrived like a house on fire, scored, and looked like he owned the world. JP’s body language appears to be a window into his soul, and you could see the other night he’s shaking his head (smile still there!). A goal or an apple tonight should do, need to keep up his confidence.

TYLER BENSON

Benson is healthy and coming on now, this is very encouraging news. His boxcars (8gp, 4-8-12) show real growth and hopefully he plays the entire schedule.

TRADES!

Rumors on twitter about the Oilers still in trade talks, I think it more likely Peter Chiarelli waits to see what the team looks like with Mike Cammalleri. Edmonton is 3-1-1 in its last five games, a win tonight and maybe the club begins to feel some swagger. As for needs, well scoring wingers and righty blue wouldn’t go amiss.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning, TSN1260 beginning at 10. Scheduled to appear:

  • Bruce McCurdy, Cult of Hockey at the Edmonton Journal. Huge night for the Oilers, plus we’ll chat about Tyler Benson.
  • Eric Fawcett, Press Basketball. NCAA season underway, how are those Canadians doing?
  • Rob Vollman, NHL.com & ESPN. Cammalleri trade, Kucherov outer marker, Vegas G spot.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. Are the Oilers turning north, and how good is Edmonton’s U24 core?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. GMB3 says:

    Looks like a playoff game.

  2. BONE207 says:

    Crazy Pedestrian:
    How the hell is tampa so damn good this season!?!?

    Easy…Stamkos to Kucherov. Question is: How is Toronto winning without Matthews?

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    Strome is having yet another strong game.

    He’s been coming on lately – its nice to see.

    I like the early look of the Cammalleri/Stome/Puljijarvi line.

  4. GMB3 says:

    OmJo: Problem is we really don’t have threats to shoot from the point.

    Klefbom tries, bless his heart, but we are really missing that big shot from the point.

    100 mph isn’t a hard enough shot from the point?

  5. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maksimov with 2G and 6 shots on net in a 4-2 loss

    Safin with no points but 8 shots on net.

  6. OmJo says:

    GMB3: 100 mph isn’t a hard enough shot from the point?

    It’s hard but not very accurate IMO. I don’t think Klef is going to score too many goals from the point this season.

  7. OmJo says:

    That kid negotiates harder than Chiarelli for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich 😂

    And nobody say that commercial.

  8. OmJo says:

    OmJo:
    That kid negotiates harder than Chiarelli for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich 😂

    And nobody say that commercial.

    https://youtu.be/sQAKO3tXjfs

  9. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    BONE207: Easy…Stamkos to Kucherov. Question is: How is Toronto winning without Matthews?

    Easy… Games are rigged…
    *ducks*

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Need to win this third period.

    Come on boys, don’t keep me up to a perverse hour without sending me to bed happy.

  11. OmJo says:

    Holy shit Darren Pang is almost as annoying as Remenda.

  12. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Welcome back

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    Huge hit by Puljijarvi!

  14. OmJo says:

    Wow Puljujarvi!

  15. Munny says:

    Blues get away with a ton of interference away from the puck.

  16. NSmitty says:

    The Man-Child with the big crunch! Gord bless his soul!

  17. OmJo says:

    I’ve lost track how many times these guys call Edmundson “Edmonton” but it’s confusing as hell when they’re playing Edmonton….

    “Now Edmonton putting pressure on McDavid”

    Wut?

  18. jake70 says:

    Munny:
    Blues get away with a ton of interference away from the puck.

    unreal isn’t it….not the only team…

  19. Munny says:

    three straight passes to absolutely no one.

  20. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Welcome back

    Thanks – its good to be back.

  21. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    These guys just refuse to shoot the puck

  22. hunter1909 says:

    I’d bet McDavid scores a point tonight.

  23. OmJo says:

    Come on….

  24. GMB3 says:

    For fucks sakes stupid mental errors are why it’s 3-1.

  25. BONE207 says:

    Shooting on a 2 on 1??? Who would have thunk?

  26. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    YOU HAVE TO BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! Too many men, no call…. then Drai misses another pass… then back the other way, in the net…

  27. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    hunter1909:
    I’d bet McDavid scores a point tonight.

    I wouldn’t…

  28. McSorley33 says:

    28th place.

    Next week is US Thanksgiving.

  29. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bad turnover at the offensive blue line leads to a back-breaking goal against.

  30. NSmitty says:

    I understand what the coaching staff is trying to accomplish by having the D activate as frequently as they do, but my goodness does this strategy ever give up a lot of odd man rushes. I think the cons have shown to outweigh the pros thus far.

  31. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Huge hit by Puljijarvi!

    I’d assumed you’d written Pajaarvi.I was wondering what would happen if MPS was still with the Oilers.

    “Pajaarvi to Nugent-Hopkins to Puljijarvi who passes to Pajaarvi” would destroy announcers, lol

  32. oscarmike says:

    Crazy Pedestrian,

    It’s not McD fault for marking a stupid pass in the first place. Maybe McD should shoot more

  33. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    hunter1909:
    I’d bet McDavid scores a point tonight.

    Not the way his wingers are playing…

  34. hunter1909 says:

    NSmitty:
    I understand what the coaching staff is trying to accomplish by having the D activate as frequently as they do, but my goodness does this strategy ever give up a lot of odd man rushes. I think the cons have shown to outweigh the pros thus far.

    Oilers hockey.

    Play fast and loose and Fuhr lets in 6 but you score 9.

  35. Munny says:

    Fork just got stuck in this game

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    Floodgates – dammit.

  37. OmJo says:

    Well fuck me.

  38. Lucinius says:

    Well, this sucks.

    Time to go to work, too. A blessing, perhaps. Wonder where the Oilers from the 1st period went.

  39. BONE207 says:

    hunter1909: I’d assumed you’d written Pajaarvi.I was wondering what would happen if MPS was still with the Oilers.

    “Pajaarvi to Nugent-Hopkins to Puljijarvi who passes to Pajaarvi” would destroy announcers, lol

    Or this…Parayko outlet pass to Paajarvi who sends it to a speeding Puljujarvi who beats Passmore.

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cue the vitrol towards the coach for not splitting up McDavid and Draisaitl.

  41. hunter1909 says:

    LOL I just tuned back into the game in time to see: “Goal St Louis”

    They lose this game. Hope Oilers get the Blues in the playoffs.

    Good night.

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    Time to see who is willing to continue to put in the effort after those two back-breaking goals.

  43. Munny says:

    Crazy Pedestrian,

    That giveaway was on McDavid. Well, and the refs.

  44. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Cue the vitrol towards the coach for not splitting up McDavid and Draisaitl.

    Nah. They played big boy hockey tonight until the 3rd period but they’re still in recovery from that mentally insane start to the season for another 5-7 games. They’re going to be fine.

  45. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    hunter1909:
    LOL I just tuned back into the game in time to see: “Goal St Louis”

    They lose this game. Hope Oilers get the Blues in the playoffs.

    Good night.

    Lol playoffs… This team has to win 8 of the next 10 to be even close to a wild card spot…

  46. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Fuk da blues… seriously… literally… fuk um

  47. hunter1909 says:

    Munny:
    Crazy Pedestrian,

    That giveaway was on McDavid.

    He’s been injured all year, if you ask me. Totally zero super skating speed so far.

  48. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Cue the vitrol towards the coach for not splitting up McDavid and Draisaitl.

    I mean, besides the Vegas game the top line is on pace to go pointless 5v5 in 6 of our last 7 games..

  49. Pouzar says:

    OmJo: I mean, besides the Vegas game the top line is on pace to go pointless 5v5 in 6 of our last 7 games..

    And there’s that too.

  50. wood99 says:

    What was klefdum doing on the 4th goal. Out in the middle of nowhere. Limited hockey sense and is soft as butter.

  51. OmJo says:

    BONE207: Or this…Parayko outlet pass to Paajarvi who sends it to a speeding Puljujarvi who beats Passmore.

    I remember a few years ago when Nick Schultz and Jultz were on the team, I wanted us to trade for Jeff Schultz so badly.

  52. McSorley33 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    No vitriol. Morbid curiosity….

  53. fishman says:

    Blues a top tier team and showing it tonight. Oilers came out strong in the first but Blues took over the game in the second. Sekera will help but it looks like it will take a big effort to get a playoff spot. Back on the road where we seem to play better!

  54. BONE207 says:

    How many cutesie backhand passes have we seen this game. They are everywhere in every zone. Bah

  55. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    OmJo: I mean, besides the Vegas game the top line is on pace to go pointless 5v5 in 6 of our last 7 games..

    Yes. Not good enough. At all.

  56. little.fiery.one says:

    This is a time where I would really like to see the 1line spit up. Nothing is rhyming or clicking. Hit blend a bit to see if anything sparks up.

  57. OmJo says:

    Jayden Schenn has 4 goals and 10 assists in his last 6 games.

    Wut?

  58. OmJo says:

    Um??????

  59. wood99 says:

    Starting to think maybe some of this falls on the coaching. Doesn’t seem like we do much in game managing.

  60. Munny says:

    Parayko goes for Looch’s knee and Looch gets the misconduct.

  61. OmJo says:

    Was that knee on knee? Damn FOX doesn’t show enough replays….

  62. Munny says:

    little.fiery.one,

    Exactly. This is when you do it.

  63. GMB3 says:

    My god is their a worse pairing at moving the puck than Gryba Russell? Jesus

  64. Evilas says:

    Blech. This team has a pop gun offense, how does Drai with CMD do anything for this team, I said it a few games ago and I will say it again. 29 & 97 are drivers but when they play together, for the most part it’s as if they don’t consistently play as hard, because deferring/waiting for the other, it’s only working in consistently in OT or against expansion teams with AHL goaltenders.

    I want to see:

    19-97-18
    27-93-13
    91-29-98
    26-55-44

  65. BONE207 says:

    OmJo: I remember a few years ago when Nick Schultz and Jultz were on the team, I wanted us to trade for Jeff Schultz so badly.

    How about Geoff Smith to Ryan Smyth back to Jared Smithson to Smid

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m thinking he Oilers may not win this game tonight.

    Going to be a great re-match game next week.

  67. russ99 says:

    Played a great first period, didn’t show up in the second and third.

    Biggest problem with this team, when the going gets tough, we take poor low percentage shots from outside, no sustained pressure at the crease and other high pressure areas.

  68. Evilas says:

    Looch was limping after that knee on knee….

  69. Lewis Grant says:

    deardylan: Lewis Grant,
    Haven’t been to Cameron Highlands yet so not sure. Malaysia so full of adventures– Penang where the map isn’t geography it is a food map! Perhentian Islands where you can snorkel with the sharks and scream underwater. Borneo… if the jungle hikes are good enough for Red Hot Chili Peppers to fly around the world for…they are good enough for me.
    Your post about Pakistan sounds a few notches more difficult than my travels around Bangladesh. Yeah will take your suggestion about picking right time to go there…March/April sounds good. I think I will talk to my Canadian-Pakistani friends from Edmonton if they can hook me up with some relatives to take me around. Travel sounds a bit tough without some friends there.
    Karakoram Highway recommendation… never heard of it–will start the research! haha. PS. Imagine you did have the time and money to do it. Then reverse engineer and I will see you there in 2020!

    I would definitely recommend the Cameron Highlands! But it sounds like you’ve been seeing plenty of other good stuff in Malaysia that I missed.

    Having locals show you around in Pakistan would be a real asset. (Actually, my best travel experiences around the world have often come from staying with locals who were friends-of-friends.)

    You might look into a side trip off the Karakoram to Skardu, which is also supposed to be really nice. I think it might have an airport too.

    Would love to cheer on the Oilers from Kashmir in 2020 – nice thought experiment.

  70. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Where the hell is the team from last year? The oilers are not supposed to be this team anymore… I’m disillusioned frankly.

  71. wood99 says:

    But the good thing is at least Tmac looks mad,doesn’t do anything but looks mad. Maybe if he showed a little emotion on the bench might actually help this team show up more than 1 out of every 4 games.

  72. OmJo says:

    BONE207: How about Geoff Smith to Ryan Smyth back to Jared Smithson to Smid

    Ha! Smithson <3

  73. Glass says:

    wood99,

    Thats the most frustrating thing about this team.

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great pass by Cammalleri and strong rush and shot by Jesse.

    Really like this player – Jesse is going to be a star.

  75. GMB3 says:

    Evilas:
    Blech.This team has a pop gun offense, how does Drai with CMD do anything for this team, I said it a few games ago and I will say it again.29 & 97 are drivers but when they play together, for the most part it’s as if they don’t consistently play as hard, because deferring/waiting for the other, it’s only working in consistently in OT or against expansion teams with AHL goaltenders.

    I want to see:

    19-97-18
    27-93-13
    91-29-98
    26-55-44

    When has Drai driven a line in his NHL career?

  76. OmJo says:

    GMB3: When has Drai driven a line in his NHL career?

    Playoffs?

  77. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    GMB3: When has Drai driven a line in his NHL career?

    Playoffs last year

  78. oscarmike says:

    One good take away from tonight is the 3rd line Cam-Strome-JP.
    Finally good to see JP use his body more.
    Lucic is a total bust as a top 6 consistent winger. Poor Nuge he can never get quality linemates. Chia traded his buddies Hall and Ebs and gave him nothing in return.

  79. GMB3 says:

    wood99:
    But the good thing is at least Tmac looks mad,doesn’t do anything but looks mad. Maybe if he showed a little emotion on the bench might actually help this team show up more than 1 out of every 4 games.

    TMac’s emotion on the bench is why McDavid turned the puck over at the blue line? Or why talbot misplayed that puck? Alright then

  80. little.fiery.one says:

    Skate puck back into own zone, ice it. Wow.

  81. NSmitty says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Where the hell is the team from last year? The oilers are not supposed to be this team anymore… I’m disillusioned frankly.

    Could the narrative be true? Are teams REALLY bringing their A game to play the Oilers this season?

  82. GMB3 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Playoffs last year

    For how many games? Didn’t the Ducks hammer us at 5 on 5 in that series? I don’t think that’s an adequate sample size.

  83. OmJo says:

    Can we play against Vegas for all 82 games?

  84. hags9k says:

    Hope Looch is ok.

    Drai has been singing slightly out of key for a little while now…

    Ugly first GA by Talbot leaves you with such a tiny chance against a good team playing tight like these guys.

    Not a terrible effort tonight, but now you have to find it on the road.

  85. OmJo says:

    Blues commentators commenting on how TMac should have tried to change the top line v top line matchup to get our top line going.

    If those homers can see it…. Ugh.

  86. GMB3 says:

    little.fiery.one:
    Skate puck back into own zone, ice it. Wow.

  87. BONE207 says:

    OmJo:
    Can we play against Vegas for all 82 games?

    There aren’t that many goalies in the world

  88. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    GMB3: For how many games? Didn’t the Ducks hammer us at 5 on 5 in that series? I don’t think that’s an adequate sample size.

    Agreed. But the elephant in the room here is the 5on5 scoring of the top line over the last 6-7 games… Shouldn’t the coach at least try breaking them up?

  89. Evilas says:

    GMB3,

    Give him the 3rd Line C slot for 3 games and then we might get a sense of what he can do.

  90. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tough one tonight – they stuck with a very good (and motivated) team for a while but fell short.

    Right back at er in less than 40 hours in Dallas.

    Go Oilers.

  91. wood99 says:

    No he didn’t turn the puck over or turn the puck over at the blue line. But he also didn’t make any adjustments during the game. And making my a line adjustment with 5 minutes left doesn’t count. But you can continue to believe that he is the next Scotty Bowman,but I would rather see results instead of the same old same old.

  92. OmJo says:

    GMB3: For how many games? Didn’t the Ducks hammer us at 5 on 5 in that series? I don’t think that’s an adequate sample size.

    Not a large sample size but it did happen.

    I agree with you that Draisaitl isn’t a proven line pusher, yet. TMac seems too reluctant to find out for whatever reason.

    That line just isn’t getting enough done 5v5. So splitting them up can’t really produce worse results.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    oscarmike:
    One good take away from tonight is the 3rd line Cam-Strome-JP.

    They were the best line for sure.

    Strome has come on stronger over the last few weeks – its great to see.

  94. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I’m thinking he Oilers may not win this game tonight.

    Going to be a great re-match game next week.

    Where they will also get thoroughly out-played to a 4-1 loss…
    This team is so one dimensional it’s scary.

  95. GMB3 says:

    wood99:
    No he didn’t turn the puck over or turn the puck over at the blue line. But he also didn’t make any adjustments during the game. And making my a line adjustment with 5 minutes left doesn’t count. But you can continue to believe that he is the next Scotty Bowman,but I would rather see results instead of the same old same old.

    I don’t think he’s a great coach by any means but it’s not his emotion on the bench that’s causing the Oilers to make simple, costly mistakes

  96. wood99 says:

    Is it just me or do our defence never seem calm with the puck. We always seem in a panic and rim the puck around the boards to nobody which usually results in a turnover.

  97. GMB3 says:

    Cue Russ99 saying this loss is on RNH and Mclellan trying to “prop up his offence” whatever that means

  98. little.fiery.one says:

    wood99,

    They were pressuring our D all night and our forwards kept on passing it back to them and the Blues forwards kept reading that easily and pouncing. Their forecheck was awesome and we had no answer for it. Heck, they fore-checked the puck into the net on the PK.

  99. russ99 says:

    GMB3:
    Cue Russ99 saying this loss is on RNH and Mclellan trying to “prop up his offence” whatever that means

    No this loss is on getting burned cheating for offense and not getting to tough areas and taking high percentage shots, like most of the season.

  100. wood99 says:

    GMB3,

    Yes but sometimes your coach(leader) has to show emotion. I’m not saying he has to lose his shit every game but sooner or later you have to show your team that your just as invested in the game. Maybe argue with a ref or throw a water bottle to show you care that maybe the reffing horseshit But let your team know that your in it with them. It almost like looks like their tuning out the coaching staff.

  101. OriginalPouzar says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: Where they will also get thoroughly out-played to a 4-1 loss…
    This team is so one dimensional it’s scary.

    Well, if you know what’s going to happen then I guess there is no point in you watching.

    Personally, I’m not so sure what’s going to happen so I’m going to watch and I’m looking forward to it.

    Dallas first though – big two points up for grabs

  102. GMB3 says:

    wood99:
    GMB3,

    Yes but sometimes your coach(leader) has to show emotion. I’m not saying he has to lose his shit every game but sooner or later you have to show your team that your just as invested in the game. Maybe argue with a ref or throw a water bottle to show you care that maybe the reffing horseshit But let your team know that your in it with them. It almost like looks like their tuning out the coaching staff.

    Maybe Mike Keenan will make a comeback. Heard players loved him.

  103. wood99 says:

    little.fiery.one,

    Every team forechecks us hard because our defence can’t make a simple outlet pass. This falls on the forwards as well because the aren’t open. To me this is coaching,and other teams recognize this and pressure us so hard on the forecheck.

  104. russ99 says:

    wood99:
    GMB3,

    Yes but sometimes your coach(leader) has to show emotion. I’m not saying he has to lose his shit every game but sooner or later you have to show your team that your just as invested in the game. Maybe argue with a ref or throw a water bottle to show you care that maybe the reffing horseshit But let your team know that your in it with them. It almost like looks like their tuning out the coaching staff.

    Yeah, I’ve been worrred about that for a while, the old Mike Keenan cycle.

    Third year is the tell. The first year you instill new systems and discipline, second year you build off that. We shouldn’t have such problems in the third year, except if the players are tired of the fire and brimstone act and tune the coaching staff out.

  105. wood99 says:

    GMB3,

    I didn’t realize your professional players had to like their coach to play well. I’m confused now as to how Montreal won all those cups with Scotty Bowman who is very well known as not a players coach. Also when Tmac wins a cup like Keenan maybe then we can compare them😀

  106. deardylan says:

    3rd line has potential, Nuge, McDavid can drive the other lines. Now how to ensure all 3 lines run hard and with consistency? We lost the battle today, we will win the war over the season!

    Sports Meets Moores Law:

    @Dhaka. Yesterday at sunrise before the oilers game met a security guard on rooftop of my hotel. He knew tiny bit of english, me a few intro words of Bangla. This guy has very little money and still he was able to show me a photo of his son on facebook on his supercomputer/smart phone! His son is a big fan of spanish football, especially of Barce and had a haircut of his favorite player Neymar (now in PSG). What!! Imagine the world his son will grow up into. Technology moving faster and faster. Wonder if anyone one day will get a McDavid haircut on some remote in Mongolia?

    At airport yesterday met a Brazilian United Nations worker who is heading to Rohingya refugee camp in Cox Bazar. If you haven’t seen the drone of the camp (and the size of it) be prepared to be amazed. Can imagine some will be heading to Canada at some point just like Vietnamese refugees did many years ago. I don’t know much about the situation here although when I did read the origins of the name of the place I was staying it is named after a British Captain who helped refugees, Captain Hiram Cox.

    This was back in 1790s!!! And still happening today. Technology moving faster and faster and still humans having trouble getting along. Well lets hope sports, technology and love will unite us across all borders.

    Sports Fans Without Borders!

  107. wood99 says:

    If we’re not in the playoffs by American thanksgiving,are we sellers or buyers at the deadline. Looking forward to the draft rankings. I thought we were done with this for a while!!! Does this put more pressure on Chiarelli to act sooner then later.

  108. Georges says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Georges,

    Of course, we can also just look at goalies…

    Ha!

    I was going to say you’re right but lack of goals plays a small part too.

    In a league where the best team scores 278 like PIT did last season as opposed to EDM scoring over 400 in the 80’s there’s less goals to go around so the % from elite to middle will naturally be a bit tighter due to less goals to go around.

    I calculated the points ratio between the top and the median forward in the two eras. Why would you expect the ratio (what you’re calling %) to “naturally” decrease because of lower aggregate goal scoring in the two eras? I didn’t calculate the difference in points.

  109. deardylan says:

    Lewis Grant: I would definitely recommend the Cameron Highlands!But it sounds like you’ve been seeing plenty of other good stuff in Malaysia that I missed.

    Having locals show you around in Pakistan would be a real asset.(Actually, my best travel experiences around the world have often come from staying with locals who were friends-of-friends.)

    You might look into a side trip off the Karakoram to Skardu, which is also supposed to be really nice.I think it might have an airport too.

    Would love to cheer on the Oilers from Kashmir in 2020 – nice thought experiment.

    Nice!!! “Would love to cheer on the Oilers from Kashmir in 2020 – nice thought experiment”

    Yes a thought experiments back in 1999 on the high level bridge walking back from the Rev Wednesday Retro nights …turned into living 18 years abroad in Europe and Asia.

    If you love thought experiments I recommend reading some books by my favorite sport/life coaches Michael Neill (AKA Supercoach) or just watch his Ted Talk on youtube for more thoughts experiments that can give you more $ and more TIME to live life like Connor McDavids skating!

    #TravelExperiments #InConorWeTrust

  110. godot10 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    VOR,

    – I don’t know who it is, but the 1979 draft was pretty special.It’s mind boggling how the dilution of talent,makes it that a 100 game career is a success.Back then 126 players were drafted over 6 rounds.21 teams vs. today:Its incredible how mediocre hockey is now…

    – In that era, basically if you got drafted in rounds 1-5, not playing in the league for a multiple years was the exception.It’s hard to fathom that in this era of 7 rounds 225 players

    Krusnelyski, Doug Crossman, and Tim Watter combined for over 2,500 games and they were drafted in the last round!.More than half the guys in the 6th round got at least cups of coffee from 1979 draft

    Total drafted players to play in NHL: 103

    Percent of players to play in NHL: 81.7

    Average NHL Career Games: 479

    Average NHL Career Goals: 107

    Average NHL Career Points: 286

    The 1979 draft was two draft years in one.

  111. Evilas says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Cheers OP, you are a shining light on this blog and your positivity is refreshing.

    This team is broken, unfortunately, and they need to find offense someway, somehow. The definition of insanity goes something like doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, yes there is more to it than this but for me the insanity is the 29-97 pairing. They simply are not producing at 5 vs 5.

    There have only been 4 games this year when this team has scored 3 or more times in regulation or vs a goalie ( I am not including the OT win in NJ or the ENG vs Calgary). If we take away EN and OT goals in the games where they scored 3 times, this team has a total of 21 goals (4PPG – 1 in OT); 15 5v5 goals in 15 games. Their record in these games: 4 wins 11 losses, 3 of these wins were in OT.

    In the other games where they have scored 3 or more times, their record is 3 wins and 1 loss. In these 4 games they scored 22 times, including 5 PPG, 1 SHG & 1 ENG = 15 5v5 goals.

    Only Nuge has been a consistent scorer on a game by game basis, which is great, but there needs to be more consistent contributions from others on this team including Drai and McDavid. What is the remedy?

    I think it is obvious, 3 scoring lines #unicorns

  112. BeerMe says:

    At the start of the year it seemed to me like this team was just inscrutably inconsistent. Unfortunately, we seem to now just be shitting the bed on a regular basis, and I am getting the sense that the early season struggles have begun to poison this team’s mental game.

    Nuge and Nurse are really the only players that stand out to me as having made any progression this year, and even they’ve had blips (like Nuge’s pass tonight on the 2 on 1)

    Sampled over the season thus far, to my eye everyone else has ranged from mediocre, to severely weaker than last year. A few bright moments here and there but poor performances overall across the board. More often than not, McDavid seems neutered by his pass-first mentality because his plays are dying on the sticks of his linemates; they just can’t keep up with his brain, or they are snakebit, fuck if I know. We supposedly have the most dynamic line in hockey but we are last in GF (not counting the AHL shooting gallery two nights ago because that’s just bad data).

    Klefbom appears to be broken… yes he’s shooting more but he’s missing the target, and is consistently making exceptionally poor reads. Benning and Russell have regressed. We need Sekera badly

    We all know Lucic was a boat anchor contract from day one that was either 3 years too long or $2MM too much, and he looks even slower than last year. At least this is not surprising.

    What gives? Is this team so mentally fragile that they have let a poor start with bad goaltending and a shit penalty kill squander the entire season? Where is the swagger we saw last year and opening night?

    This may have been a delirious ramble and I apologize if I’ve just spewed out some doom-and-gloom saturated non-sequiters.

  113. godot10 says:

    VOR:
    Lowetide and Kinger_oiler.redux,

    I think one of the reasons the oenophile wasn’t drafted in 1979 was how incredibly rich that draft was. No team wanted to take the risk of drafting a tiny kid they might not ever be able to sign.

    There are a number of great stories from the 1979 draft. I have read a number of sources explaining how the Oilers didn’t know the Baby Bulls were draft eligible until someone on another team explained it to them. By which time there was only one left, the very youngest of the Baby Bulls. That pick of course meant the player the Oilers had wanted to pick in the third round was up for grabs for the entire 4th round. But every team in the NHL passed on the buttery soft winger who didn’t want to play professional hockey and obviously didn’t have the right stuff.

    We know the Oilers would have taken Messier much higher if they had realized he was eligible and Anderson no later than the third round if they hadn’t learned Messier was eligible but what the heck were all the other teams thinking?

    In fact the scouts did a pretty crappy job of ranking the talent that year. Try redrafting 1979 if you don’t believe me.

    And of course one of the greatest of all went utterly undrafted. I have had scouts tell me that they knew the first time they ever saw the Green Unit play that they had missed not one, but two of the greatest players of all time.

    Mark Messier was NOT a Baby Bull. And one could NOT NOT that WHA were eligible because Rob Ramage went 1st overall, and Rick Vaive soon after, and Goulet just before the Oilers picked Lowe.

    Messier was an Indianapolis Racer and Cincinnatti Stinger. He had an inauspicious WHA season. But the OIlers knew all about him because he came out of their backyard.

  114. godot10 says:

    Lewis Grant: I am!

    Almost the whole sun belt should be gone.If they don’t have a hockey culture or support their team, they shouldn’t have a team, period.I’m a purist.

    Tampa, Dallas, maybe LA and San Jose.

    And Toronto should have 3 teams, and Hamilton, and Quebec City.

    Without the Phoenix/Arizona Coyotes, there would be no Auston Matthews.

  115. godot10 says:

    Woodguy v2.0: You’re right, but its finally back to pre 1993+ expansion levels

    I wrote this about penalties: http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2017/09/if-nhl-refs-called-games-like-they-used.html

    Look at the shots/game graph.

    Its amazing and clearly shows the dilution in talent after expansion in the early 90’s.

    The NHL his back to that level though.

    Its taken 15 years, but its back to those 5v5 and 4v5 scoring levels.

    I disagree that the talent was diluted in the nineties. What happened is that the coaching dramatically improved, and the NHL stopped calling the rule book.

  116. Bobcaygeon says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Where the hell is the team from last year? The oilers are not supposed to be this team anymore… I’m disillusioned frankly.

    It’s entirely possible that the Oilers completely over achieved last year…Even with the skill the team had in 16/17 management deemed them not important enough to think they made a difference.

    It’s funny how many fans especially on blogs stil feel that getting rid of Eberle was smart….I honestly feel at times GM’s are no different…..They completely react on eye test and feel alone.

  117. OriginalPouzar says:

    Evilas:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Cheers OP, you are a shining light on this blog and your positivity is refreshing.

    This team is broken, unfortunately, and they need to find offense someway, somehow.The definition of insanity goes something like doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, yes there is more to it than this but for me the insanity is the 29-97 pairing.They simply are not producing at 5 vs 5.

    There have only been 4 games this year when this team has scored 3 or more times in regulation or vs a goalie ( I am not including the OT win in NJ or the ENG vs Calgary).If we take away EN and OT goals in the games where they scored 3 times, this team has a total of 21 goals (4PPG – 1 in OT); 15 5v5 goals in 15 games.Their record in these games: 4 wins 11 losses, 3 of these wins were in OT.

    In the other games where they have scored 3 or more times, their record is 3 wins and 1 loss.In these 4 games they scored 22 times, including 5 PPG, 1 SHG & 1 ENG = 15 5v5 goals.

    Only Nuge has been a consistent scorer on a game by game basis, which is great, but there needs to be more consistent contributions from others on this team including Drai and McDavid.What is the remedy?

    I think it is obvious, 3 scoring lines #unicorns

    With that way the game went last night, I really don’t know why Coach Todd didn’t blend something up in the the third period.

    I’ve been calling for consistency in the lines and I’m actually generally OK with Drai and McDavid together, however, after the tires were deflated last night, it would have been the perfect time to try Puljijarvi on the top line or Cammalleri in Maroon’s place, etc.

    Todd could have done a bit of “free experimenting” and then gone back to what he likes for the Stars game.

    I’m a bit frustrated but, at the same time, look forward to Saturday afternoon – need a win for the positive vibes for a successful road trip.

  118. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Melvis:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I can attest to the fact that golf and hash pair up remarkably well.

    Two great tastes that taste great together.

  119. OriginalPouzar says:

    I am now 100% in favor of making a switch on the top line – its time.

    I’m not going to call the coach an idiot or profess that I’m smarter than him with respect to coaching an NHL team but my preference at this point is for a switch.

    With the Cammalleri addition, we have a bit more offensive punch on the wings and I think we can formulate some decent lines.

    Strome is playing good hockey now so I’m remiss to take him out of the middle but I wouldn’t be against putting Drai on the wing with either Nuge or Strome.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Bobcaygeon:

    In my opinion there is no doubt they over-achieved last year, even with some key players not having great years (Nuge, Eberle, Pouliot). A large part of that was health and a second large part was Russell being propped up by Sekera.

    I personally never bought in to the off season verbal about highest odds to win the cup, winning the conference, etc. I professed a slow start due to overconfidence and issues on the backend and predicted 94 points and fighting for a wild card spot.

    I think they are under achieving this year so far.

    I was never on board with “needing” to trade Eberle. I understood the need for cap space but not the vitrol towards the player. A 12-13 game playoff sample size is meaningless in my mind. There are hoards of great playoff performers who struggled in the playoffs early in their career.

    Eberle has an unsustainable low shooting percentage last year and there was little doubt in my mind that he’d revert back to the player that is good for 25G every year.

    With that said, Strome is actually playing good hockey right now and starting to produce. He’s not as talented and will never be as productive as Eberle but, as of now, he is no longer a black hole.

  121. Dicky94 says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Yes they need to be split up! They are actually hurting the team with their cute little plays. This is all on Todd.

  122. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    godot10: I disagree that the talent was diluted in the nineties.What happened is that the coaching dramatically improved, and the NHL stopped calling the rule book.

    – IT interesting: I don’t see how one can argue with dilution. It’s a fact that approximately 200 players who weren’t able to play in the NHL did, starting in the 90’s. That’s dilution, because unlike lawyers, whose skills can be taught, (and other factors that OP brings up), there is a gap between the 200th and 400th NHL player: genetics, skill, etc

    – Coaching got a lot better, the players are way better athletes, the game is faster, etc. This is a function of the economics, and because teams have less talent, they implement more systems, get coached up, etc.

    – The penalties are called less, and the Bettmen point are functions of the mushy middle, and wanting all markets to be competitive. Holding and slashing and boards is easier systems than skill, and requires less skilled rosters.

    – And Georges point about the difference from elite to average reducing over time, my interpretation of that is exactly my thesis: with less talent, and a mushy middle, its harder for the best to really rise to the top. Take Drai and McD: they are clearly way more talented than the average. Their skills really shine on 3×3 where talent matters most.

  123. frjohnk says:

    In regards to Draisaitl driving his own line in the playoffs.

    It looked more like he drove PDO for a small sample.

    Away from McDavid 82 minutes

    CF% 41.7%
    FF% 40%
    SF% 37.6%
    GF% 66.7%
    HDCF% 43.5%
    On-Ice SH% 18.6%
    Points/60 3.65

    Goals for and points/60 are what people could use to say he drove his own line.

    What people remember is his 5 point night in which the Oilers blew out the Ducks in the 7-1 win and Draisaitl got 3 points 5 on 5 away from McDavid.

    Now people will say I’m cherry picking but I’m just showing how small samples can be distorted by PDO heaters.

    Take away that 1 game in which everything went Draisaitls way ( ie. Ducks Dmen fumble the puck, Drai gets a breakaway, flubs the shot but scores) and he scored 1.90 pts/60. Still very good. But nothing in the counts would suggest he drove a line.

    Not corsi for
    Not fenwick for
    Not shots for
    Not scoring chances for
    Not high danger shots from the slot for
    Not goals for
    Not pts/60

    It was a PDO heater in 1 game.

    With that said, I believe he will drive his own line but I don’t think it will be this year. Our team needs wingers that can play with McDavid so that McDavid can produce and wingers that can play with Draisaitl and so that he can produce.

    We don’t have much on the wings if Draisaitl is a center.

    Case in point, last night. The biggest reason why the McDavid line went head to head with the Schenn line was that McCellan had no other options. 3rd and 4th line score at less than a AHL pace at 5 on 5 and would have been destroyed defensively by the Schenn line. The 2nd line only has Nuge who could maybe keep his head above water against the Schenn line.

    With that said, I think the Cammy add was a good one, it should help the bottom 6 wingers, but we are short top 6 wingers if Draisaitl goes to center.

    Unless Chia pulls the trigger on a blockbuster, I think we see McDavid and Drai together for most of the year and we have 1 line that beats most other top lines up, a second line that treads water and a 3rd and 4th line that should not be as bad as they have shown goal wise.

  124. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    The apocalypse came upon us last evening!

    Ya the loss sucks but my goodness the verbal here last night was off the charts. But that is how the season is gonna go I guess.

    Until the backbreaker (really bad play by Connor and Co on that one) that was probably the funnest game to watch, that they’ve played all year. Tons of hits, lots of nice plays, rushes going back and forth. Even when they got outplayed in the 2nd they still forced things to the outside more often than not.

    Also really the first game against a heavy grinding team.

    Couple quick thoughts:

    PP1 is a mess, PP2 is starting to kick out the jams.

    What’s with the refusal to shoulder check these days? Nurse last game where he left Neal alone, Larsson last night on the 2-1 goal. Shoulder check guys shoulder check!

    Shoot shoot shoot! Too cute by half last night and it bit them in the butt, same story in New York. Line 1 is most guilty here but enough with the over passes, shoot, shoot and shoot some more!

    I’m with others here, that on this road-trip there is going to be a chance to split up line 1 and I’m cool with that, but you need a practice session in between IMO, just to make sure people jive.

    Really liked the 3rd line trio in the 3rd last night. Good mix of skills and attributes on that line. Hoping they get another game.

    Maybe its just me (and I am in no way faulting him for the loss) but Talbot seems to be fighting the puck his last three games or so. More rebounds than usual. He’ll settle back in though.

    And to all the folks jumping off the wagon full throttle take a look at how the rest of the Pacific did last night, basically everyone stayed the same. The Sharks and Flames are the only two teams without significant injuries right now.

    The entire division is treading water, any one team (aside from Arizona) goes on a five game heater and they’ll end up first in the division, parity at its finest I suppose?

    St Louis is a good team, and they made the Oilers pay for some silly mistakes (common refrain this year I know) but this wasn’t nearly the blowout that some are making it seem.

    Winnable games for the next two weeks.

    Coach said he expects Sleppy and KJ to draw back in on the road-trip. That means that for the first time all year we’ll have a healthy lineup to pick and choose from.

    Unlike a lot of folks I feel pretty good right now. Team has to string it all together this road-trip but over the next 14 days there are 6 very winnable contests (ugghh TWO more matinee games, what the hell schedule makers what the hell?)

    They can gain a lot of ground here and they’ll be able to ice the fastest most skilled set of players they’ve had all year.

    This might be the make or break part of the schedule and I’m looking forward to it!

  125. texmex says:

    Oilers lost 4-1 to the second best team in the NHL.

    Fire the coach!!!!

  126. Lewis Grant says:

    frjohnk: It was a PDO heater in 1 game.

    And he got paid about an extra $15M over the life of his contract for it.

    One wonders if we would have been better off to have lost the game 7-1.

  127. McSorley33 says:

    texmex,

    Oilers lost 4-1 to the second best team in the NHL.
    Fire the coach!!!!
    **************************************************
    No way….their 29th in the league.

    Give him a huge Raise!!

  128. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Lewis Grant: And he got paid about an extra $15M over the life of his contract for it.

    One wonders if we would have been better off to have lost the game 7-1.

    The contention on Calgary radio a couple of weeks ago was that drais contract will be the cause of the next lock out.

  129. russ99 says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    OriginalPouzar,

    The apocalypse came upon us last evening!

    Ya the loss sucks but my goodness the verbal here last night was off the charts. But that is how the season is gonna go I guess.

    Until the backbreaker (really bad play by Connor and Co on that one) that was probably the funnest game to watch, that they’ve played all year. Tons of hits, lots of nice plays, rushes going back and forth. Even when they got outplayed in the 2nd they still forced things to the outside more often than not.

    Also really the first game against a heavy grinding team.

    Couple quick thoughts:

    PP1 is a mess, PP2 is starting to kick out the jams.

    What’s with the refusal to shoulder check these days? Nurse last game where he left Neal alone, Larsson last night on the 2-1 goal. Shoulder check guys shoulder check!

    Shoot shoot shoot! Too cute by half last night and it bit them in the butt, same story in New York. Line 1 is most guilty here but enough with the over passes, shoot, shoot and shoot some more!

    I’m with others here, that on this road-trip there is going to be a chance to split up line 1 and I’m cool with that, but you need a practice session in between IMO, just to make sure people jive.

    Really liked the 3rd line trio in the 3rd last night. Good mix of skills and attributes on that line. Hoping they get another game.

    Maybe its just me (and I am in no way faulting him for the loss) but Talbot seems to be fighting the puck his last three games or so. More rebounds than usual. He’ll settle back in though.

    And to all the folks jumping off the wagon full throttle take a look at how the rest of the Pacific did last night, basically everyone stayed the same. The Sharks and Flames are the only two teams without significant injuries right now.

    The entire division is treading water, any one team (aside from Arizona) goes on a five game heater and they’ll end up first in the division, parity at its finest I suppose?

    St Louis is a good team, and they made the Oilers pay for some silly mistakes (common refrain this year I know) but this wasn’t nearly the blowout that some are making it seem.

    Winnable games for the next two weeks.

    Coach said he expects Sleppy and KJ to draw back in on the road-trip. That means that for the first time all year we’ll have a healthy lineup to pick and choose from.

    Unlike a lot of folks I feel pretty good right now. Team has to string it all together this road-trip but over the next 14 days there are 6 very winnable contests (ugghh TWO more matinee games, what the hell schedule makers what the hell?)

    They can gain a lot of ground here and they’ll be able to ice the fastest most skilled set of players they’ve had all year.

    This might be the make or break part of the schedule and I’m looking forward to it!

    Agree, they’ve been playing a lot better, and have a good chance for multiple lines to mesh.

    Yesterday was a bit of a disappointment since they played a really solid first period, and reverted to old habits in the second and third. But that’s way better than what we saw earlier in the season.

    We can’t win them all and St. Louis is a quality team but we need to make things harder for opposition goaltenders. Would love to see any of our forwards be able to do consistently what Schenn did for them last night getting in good spots and taking high quality shots.

    The boys showed up early in the Rangers game, hopefully the matinee bugaboo is past us.

  130. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Georges: I calculated the points ratio between the top and the median forward in the two eras. Why would you expect the ratio (what you’re calling %) to “naturally” decrease because of lower aggregate goal scoring in the two eras? I didn’t calculate the difference in points.

    I think that as more goals are available the upper end players take a larger share.

    Based on intuition more than anything else.

  131. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    godot10: I disagree that the talent was diluted in the nineties.What happened is that the coaching dramatically improved, and the NHL stopped calling the rule book.

    Stopped calling the rulebook?

    In the post you can see that each team got 4.0-5.0 power play opportunities per game for the whole 90’s.

    Penalties had nothing to do with the declining shot rates.

    Adding 138 more NHLers in 7 years (from 1992-1999) is probably a better bet.

    Agreed a lot of it was coaching.

    Grinding the game to a standstill was the main way the coaches of the weaker expansion teams tried to get on equal footing with the better teams.

    The more shots per game the more it favours the better teams.

    Jacques Lemaire Hockey *spits*

  132. texmex says:

    McSorley33,

    He can’t sign an extension until the summer of 2019 if I’m not mistaken. His raise will have to wait until then I’m afraid

  133. McSorley33 says:

    2018 NHL Prospects:

    4.) Brady Tkachuk, C, 6-foot-3, 194 pounds (Boston University, NCAA): The pain-in-the-butt comparisons to brother Matthew are legit, and so is the assertion he’ll end up going higher than his brother.

  134. McSorley33 says:

    6.) Filip Zadina, RW, 6-foot-1, 192 pounds (Halifax Mooseheads): A late birthday, Zadina hopes to follow the success of Timo Meier, Nik Ehlers, Nico Hischier and Jakub Voracek: all successful, top-10 NHL first round picks as imports playing in Halifax. He’s a shooter with a complete game suited to playing the off-wing.

  135. godot10 says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: – IT interesting: I don’t see how one can argue with dilution.It’s a fact that approximately 200 players who weren’t able to play in the NHL did, starting in the 90’s.That’s dilution, because unlike lawyers, whose skills can be taught, (and other factors that OP brings up), there is a gap between the 200th and 400th NHL player: genetics, skill, etc

    – Coaching got a lot better, the players are way better athletes, the game is faster, etc.This is a function of the economics, and because teams have less talent, they implement more systems, get coached up, etc.

    – The penalties are called less, and the Bettmen point are functions of the mushy middle, and wanting all markets to be competitive.Holding and slashing and boards is easier systems than skill, and requires less skilled rosters.

    – And Georges point about the difference from elite to average reducing over time, my interpretation of that is exactly my thesis: with less talent, and a mushy middle, its harder for the best to really rise to the top.Take Drai and McD: they are clearly way more talented than the average.Their skills really shine on 3×3 where talent matters most.

    The talent pool also expanded in the nineties with expansion. More Americans from more places, and Russians started coming over.in significant numbers.

    But I would still argue that it was improved coaching at all levels, better trained atheletes, and non-enforcement of the rulebook.

  136. OmJo says:

    McSorley33:
    2018 NHL Prospects:

    4.) Brady Tkachuk, C, 6-foot-3, 194 pounds (Boston University, NCAA): The pain-in-the-butt comparisons to brother Matthew are legit, and so is the assertion he’ll end up going higher than his brother.

    This could make the Battle of Alberta very, very interesting.

  137. Georges says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think that as more goals are available the upper end players take a larger share.

    Based on intuition more than anything else.

    This could be related to power play rates being different in the two eras.

    In the 80s, the ratio of points for the highest scoring forward vs. the median forward in a season averaged 8.0. In the last 10 seasons, it averaged 6.4.

    If you exclude power play and shorthanded points, the ratios were 6.3 and 5.1.

    I’d say good intuition on your part.

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