G 37 2017-18: Oilers at Jets

Back  when I was a kid, stopping for gas was a big deal. A man would come to the driver’s side window, ask my Dad how much gas he wanted (might be “a dollar gas” to “fill ‘er up!” depending on the day), if he wanted the oil checked and windows washed. Meanwhile, my brother and I would hit the washroom (“go now, we’re not stopping!”) and then we’d race out to see if we could get a Coke or Mountain Dew. Not always, but sometimes we’d find a hamburger or fish n’ chips joint nearby, but that was a rare day. The whole thing probably took 10 minutes, but the break did everyone a lot of good and the general mood in the car would be more positive. In the 1960’s, you did a lot of living in the family car, and that’s a fact.

THE ATHLETIC!

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LONG DECEMBER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • December 2015: 7-3-0, goal differential -1 (14 points)
  • December 2016: 5-2-3, goal differential +1 (13 points)
  • December 2017: 7-3-0, goal differential +11 (14 points)

G11 December 2015 was a 2-1 overtime loss to the Vancouver Canucks (Jannik Hansen goal) and last year it was a 3-2 win over the Arizona Coyotes. This Oilers team has a chance to post a stronger December than the previous two McLellan seasons, but have to keep the train rolling. I spoke to Jason Strudwick last week, he told me these games right after Christmas are damned tough because your focus has been away from hockey. I bet it is, this will be a big test for Edmonton.

AFTER 37, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 15-18-3, goal differential -18 (33 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 18-12-6, goal differential +8 (42 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 17-17-2, goal differential -4 (36 points)

G37 in 2015 saw Edmonton lose 5-3 to the Calgary Flames (Johnny Gaudreau, Mark Giordano). Last season? A 3-1 win over the Los Angeles Kings (Eric Gryba the winner). This game is important, as the Oilers can keep pace with other teams and maybe gain some ground. Most important, the club could possibly pass another team before January 1, 2018.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM DECEMBER

  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected: 0-0-1) (Actual: 1-0-0)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Montreal, Toronto, Columbus (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • At home to: Nashville (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose, St. Louis, Montreal (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 3-0-0)
  • On the road to: Winnipeg (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Chicago, Winnipeg (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-2, 12 points in 13 games 
  • Current results: 7-3-0, 14 points in 10 games

The final three games of this month are very important. Just like those gas station stops in the 1960’s, a productive stop can lead to a good run for the rest of the way, contributing to success. We’ll know if it was a “fill ‘er up!” or “dollar gas!” stop on New Year’s Day. This team can really help itself in the coming days. Big time. Was it a Coca-Cola holiday? Mountain Dew? Or was it Fresca? Or Tab?

JOHNNY BOWER

It is my belief Johnny Bower is talking Leafs 1960’s with my Dad and Father-in-law this morning. If there’s one thing you can be sure of today, it’s that everyone who lived in Canada during the 1960’s was impacted in one way or another by the news of Bower’s passing. Bower and the Leafs were the only NHL team in English Canada, won pretty much every year Montreal lost, and Bower was a favorite with both genders and all ages.

My Dad was born in Radisson, Saskatchewan in 1912. Johnny Bower was born in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan in 1925. Wes (father-in-law) was born in Wolseley, Saskatchewan in 1929. I knew two of them very well, to the point where I feel like I knew the other guy, too. They all thought Gordie Howe was the best player ever, two of them talked about the Richardson curling team to the point where I could identify Ernie from Sam; about baseball (Dimaggio and Feller) and about the War. I think my Dad was unique in that his memories of the Depression were stronger, but it hit me upon hearing of the passing of Mr. Bower just how much of our history, and the first hand knowledge of it, is passing in real time. I’m blessed to have heard many of those stories and to have lived through some of them myself.

Those boys traveled a long way from their homes and they changed a world in doing it. Johnny Bower’s passing was inevitable, but it’s a sad thing all the same. I really miss those guys. RIP, Mr. Bower.

KAILER YAMAMOTO

Kailer Yamamoto had some nice chances and scored the fourth goal last night for Team USA at the World Juniors. I’ve been asked a few times about Yamamoto’s struggles during his WHL games this season. My own opinion is that Yamamoto should rebound in Spokane and show well at the WJ’s. The young man already showed us some interesting things during his NHL time. I’ve read some pretty incredible statements about his future in the comments section and would admonish those who are making a negative call on a young career. We don’t know what we don’t know, and when talking about someone who is 19, that’s one whole helluva lot.

OILERS FORWARDS, HIGH DANGER SCORING CHANCES, 2017-18

This is every Oilers forward currently in the organization who has played 100 or more minutes 5×5, with their NHL rank at 5×5 high-danger scoring chances and total. As you can see, Kailer Yamamoto did pretty well in the metric during his nine games with the Oilers. Will he do that again next year? Don’t know, but suspect he’ll get a chance to show us. I published this list (via NaturalStatTrick) because it’s very interesting across the board. Check out the names inside the top 100. I wouldn’t have guessed those names.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy Wednesday as we get back on the highway, starting at 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Darcy McLeod, Because Oilers. Oilers four in a row, McDavid worries and Letang?
  • Josh Eberley, HOOP mag. We’ll chat 76ers, Raptors and Lebron not getting the call.
  • Jon Abbott, TSN1040. WJ’s play-by-play man gives us the latest.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. Talk soon!

 

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  1. fishman says:

    Pouzar:
    Not a single shot attempt for line 4 tonight.
    Let that sink in.

    Time to shorten the bench in the 3 rd????

  2. who says:

    Pouzar:
    Not a single shot attempt for line 4 tonight.
    Let that sink in.

    Letestu and Cammaleri can’t keep up to this pace. They’ve spent the whole game in their own end.

  3. Pouzar says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Why are the Oiler’s D required to use broomball sticks tonight?Hardly seems fair ….

    While 1=1
    Up the wall

  4. Soup Fascist says:

    The Oilers’ PP should get a chance to salvage a point tonight. Not sure if that will work out well.

  5. thehop says:

    Friedman goes out of his way to mention Pittsburgh and the trade freeze ending after midnight tonight.

    Was there any legitimacy to the Letang rumour?

    I haven’t been keeping up but color me intrigued.

  6. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Soup Fascist: Kassian looks disinterested and 55 and 13 look S-L-O-W. Good thing they are sitting Slep.

    Kassian is a good 4th liner. I have said many times though that a good portion of this fanbase overestimates his ability. But I have been shouted down on that point many times. He will be valuable come playoff time if the team makes it, though.

  7. Pouzar says:

    fishman: Time to shorten the bench in the 3 rd????

    If we want to steal a point it’s our only shot.

    Watch Letestu score 2.

  8. who says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    Oilers defense overall is a hot mess tonight

    Bad reads, bad pinches, bad bad across the board

    Yep.
    Defense and the fourth line are the problem tonight.

  9. Mr. D. says:

    God will Benning grow a pair and take a hit to make a play instead of giving it away. Trade him he will cost us in the long run.

  10. Pouzar says:

    Winnipeg Jets PR

    @WpgJetsPR
    35s35 seconds ago
    More
    Mark Scheifele will not return to tonight’s game due to an upper body injury.

  11. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Pouzar:
    Winnipeg Jets PR

    @WpgJetsPR35s35 seconds ago
    More
    Mark Scheifele will not return to tonight’s game due to an upper body injury.

    Dislocation maybe? Terrible for the Jets.

  12. Soup Fascist says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Kassian is a good 4th liner. I have said many times though that a good portion of this fanbase overestimates his ability. But I have been shouted down on that point many times. He will be valuable come playoff time if the team makes it, though.

    I agree. But tonight there is no urgency in his game and by eye he has been coasting on a number of back checks. Letestu in sleep mode on the 2nd goal. 4th line an anchor.

  13. fishman says:

    Truly a crap call on JK

  14. frjohnk says:

    Pouzar:
    Winnipeg Jets PR

    @WpgJetsPR35s35 seconds ago
    More
    Mark Scheifele will not return to tonight’s game due to an upper body injury.

    Damn.

  15. thehop says:

    Or you could call the fucking knee on knee.

    I hate NHL officiating

  16. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Absolute horseshit call

  17. OilClog says:

    Fuck these refs

  18. BONE207 says:

    Next goal wins

  19. Gerta Rauss says:

    shitty call

  20. leadfarmer says:

    How come we always play against the Angels of the NHL

  21. BONE207 says:

    Talbot!!!

  22. hunter1909 says:

    Oilers are just one Bobby Orr away from greatness.

  23. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Wat a save

  24. hunter1909 says:

    Great how you start to hate a team like the Jets after your player seemingly is “done wrong” by lol

  25. frjohnk says:

    If not for Talbot being elite tonight, game would have been over in the 2nd.
    Our defence has been woof

  26. Gerta Rauss says:

    oh baby…..Tal-bot..!!

  27. Pouzar says:

    That ref was completely amped up when he called that. Holy fucking overreaction Batman.
    Just a horrid call.

  28. hunter1909 says:

    “They’re beating us in every other department. It’s time to hammer them with our penalty kill” TMac

  29. OilClog says:

    This is a game where Crazy eyes Kassian needs to show up for

  30. Seismic Source says:

    We gotta be due for a PP soon. Getting one point tonight would be magic.

  31. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The oilers fully deserve that though. Larson is having a terrible game

  32. Gerta Rauss says:

    ffs

  33. Pouzar says:

    Oilers handling it like a grenade right now.

    You may see Klef-Lars Friday night.

  34. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    This has been a very bad game for Larsson

  35. hunter1909 says:

    No way do Oilers win this game. Jets are playing like they’ve prepared for this game all season.

    PS: Oilers freaking NEED a puck moving defenceman.

  36. Ice Sage says:

    If this is the way it’s gonna be, Oilers should take a pound of flesh

  37. hunter1909 says:

    Ice Sage:
    If this is the way it’s gonna be, Oilers should take a pound of flesh

    lol

  38. OilClog says:

    If the Oilers deserve that, jets being called for their tic tac infractions? One game getting ref’d two different ways.

  39. Soup Fascist says:

    Do Swedish turkeys have an inordinate amount of tryptophan in them? Because Larsson looks absolutely putrid.

  40. BONE207 says:

    If the Oil could sustain some pressure this period we’d have some points

  41. thehop says:

    OilClog,

    Apparently large segments of fans overrate that part of his game….

    OilClog,

    According to one poster… that part of his game is overvalued.

  42. Ice Sage says:

    #scheifelejustastart

  43. thehop says:

    hunter1909,

    Just say it.

    LETANG

  44. BONE207 says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Do Swedish turkeys have an inordinate amount of tryptophan in them?

    I don’t know about tryptophan but they seem to get all the other penalties

  45. Gerta Rauss says:

    Well somebody is getting a too many men penalty

    Stay tuned..!!

  46. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Soup Fascist:
    Do Swedish turkeys have an inordinate amount of tryptophan in them. Because Larsson looks absolutely putrid.

    Could be a three day akvavit hangover 😉

  47. fishman says:

    Soup Fascist,

    Ha Ha was just wondering about Larson’s turkey consumption because he has been playing just brutal tonight!

  48. Gerta Rauss says:

    Ha..!

    WPG can kiss my ass..!

  49. Pouzar says:

    Treena should be interesting tonight…after “she” finishes her post game duties.

  50. leadfarmer says:

    Letang mysteriously scratched with a DTD injury after rumors of him moving
    Hoffman plays 12 min tonight.

    I’m betting on everyone’s productivity being very low tomorrow

  51. fishman says:

    Poolparty has 7 shots on goal but still can’t get on the PP????

    Oh he did get out there

  52. BONE207 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Ha..!

    WPG can kiss my ass..!

    Easy!!! Pouzar lives there.. Now the Jets…

  53. hunter1909 says:

    Okay I hope Oilers score to make it 4-4

  54. Lowetide says:

    Please be kind, I don’t want to time people out during the holiday season.

  55. BONE207 says:

    hunter1909:
    Okay I hope Oilers score to make it 4-4

    Bout damn time!!!

  56. thehop says:

    OilClog,

    I’m parsing through a comment made by someone else here earlier tonight. I’m with you.

  57. hunter1909 says:

    thehop:
    hunter1909,

    Just say it.

    LETANG

    …just so long as he doesn’t cost anyone particularly important to the team. He’s more of a liability with that bloated contract/against his injury proclivity etc.

  58. OilClog says:

    Pouzar:
    Treena should be interesting tonight…after “she” finishes her post game duties.

    Cags gets a 8, everyone else a 5!

    Tanev looks like what Drake has been billed as.

  59. Pouzar says:

    OilClog: Cags gets a 8

    He deserves it.

    EDIT: After he ties it

  60. Seismic Source says:

    I feel overtime coming.

  61. hunter1909 says:

    Since I’m already out on a limb…

    Draisaitl with the tieing goal.

  62. Pouzar says:

    Kreider pulled from Rangers game.

  63. Gerta Rauss says:

    Seismic Source:
    I feel overtime coming.

    That would be something..we have no business being in this game

  64. Gerta Rauss says:

    omg

  65. fishman says:

    Well that was quite a push!

  66. Ice Sage says:

    Great sequence! Love this game

  67. LMHF#1 says:

    Not one guy with the brains to calm the puck down? Wtf…

    Might as well have been holding fly-swatters.

    Someone needs to remind these guys how talented they are.

  68. Gerta Rauss says:

    wow….exciting finish but we got what we deserved

  69. thehop says:

    What a game!!!

    Good night fellas

  70. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Oilers out worked tonight no doubt they were lucky to be that close at the end. Talbot looks great still the defense was god awful.

  71. Lowetide says:

    Good game. Oilers were a little slow and undisciplined compared to Winnipeg and that was the difference imo. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

  72. BONE207 says:

    Hell of a push. Can’t buy a tip/deflection or a magic bullet. Gahhh

  73. D says:

    Enjoyed those last few minutes. If we’re candid, we can agree that Winnipeg deserved the win.

  74. Ice Sage says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    wow….exciting finish but we got what we deserved

    Yep. Oilers didn’t bring the same intensity to a ‘guaranteed loss’ despite the close score.

  75. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Well that was a helluva effort in the last two minutes

    Not so much in the previous 57:40 though

    I’ll give them a break due to the bizarre 6am flight after a four day break but they need to shake that holiday rust off ASAP

    Defensemen need to shake it faster than everyone else though.

    Not a good night for any of the 6 frankly

  76. fishman says:

    Talbot had a great game. D not so much.

  77. Pouzar says:

    1 shot attempt for line 4….i think. #CammyWasOnLine2ForAShift

  78. deardylan says:

    Entertaining and Sloppy

  79. Pouzar says:

    If Slepy doesn’t draw in next game then I dunno what to say.

  80. Professor Q says:

    OilClog: Cags gets a 8, everyone else a 5!

    Tanev looks like what Drake has been billed as.

    I never thought of Caggiula as a D-Man…

  81. BONE207 says:

    Pouzar:
    If Slepy doesn’t draw in next game then I dunno what to say.

    You do…#FREESLEPY

  82. Evilas says:

    BONE207: You do…#FREESLEPY

    #freekarlsson 🙂

  83. BONE207 says:

    Evilas: #freekarlsson

    Free both…trade one for the other. Make it happen Pete!

  84. Pouzar says:

    Rob Brown saying the ice was terrible.

  85. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Pouzar:
    Rob Brown saying the ice was terrible.

    Yeah it was but the oilers should be used to that… Rogers ice sucks

  86. Mr. D. says:

    Deserved the loss. Talbot gave us a chance. Wpg is a good team where big counts.

  87. Pouzar says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Yeah it was but the oilers should be used to that… Rogers ice sucks

    Seems to be an epidemic.

  88. Mr. D. says:

    Pouzar:
    Rob Brown saying the ice was terrible.

    Really, probably terrible for both teams. We got outshot, out checked etc. It’s not the ice!

  89. Pouzar says:

    Mr. D.: It’s not the ice!

    I wasn’t suggesting that. Often I like to offer up talking points…to…..talk about.

  90. hunter1909 says:

    Fun game.

  91. Pouzar says:

    Thank Gord I’m off till Jan 2

  92. Pescador says:

    Pouzar:
    Kreider pulled from Rangers game.

    You tease more than Bob

  93. Jethro Tull says:

    Lowetide:
    Good game. Oilers were a little slow and undisciplined compared to Winnipeg and that was the difference imo. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

    Was a good game, Mrs. Tull and I both enjoyed it. Mrs. Tull did remark that the Jets must be little angels not to get a penalty until the 3rd, and a bench minor at that. Lots of interference and holding. Only penalty against Oilers I disagreed with was JJ’s. Chintzy hometeam call. PK looked good, though.

  94. Pouzar says:

    Pescador: You tease more than Bob

    That’s what……………

  95. Jethro Tull says:

    Pouzar:
    Kreider pulled from Rangers game.

    Scheifle pulled from Jets game.

  96. Pouzar says:

    Jethro Tull: Scheifle pulled from Jets game.

    Indeed.

  97. Jethro Tull says:

    Pouzar: Indeed.

    HF feed is going into a frenzy…..

  98. Melvis says:

    I think I’ve gotta get an amazon echo. Easy to be kind.

    “Alexa.”

    “Yes Master?”

    “Yadda my yadda.

    “Yes Master”

    “And stop spying on me.”

    “Yadda my yadda Melvis.”

  99. Pouzar says:

    Jethro Tull: HF feed is going into a frenzy…..

    ?

  100. Pescador says:

    Pouzar:
    If Slepy doesn’t draw in next game then I dunno what to say.

    Probably goodbye
    In my eye he is still a prospect, why they would flush him I haven’t the foggiest

  101. Jethro Tull says:

    Pouzar: ?

    There’s a hockey rumour mill called Hockey Feed on FB. Sports equivalent of Ancient Aliens. If a player falls over, there’s”possible injury” articles, and countless ‘insider’ trade proposals. Like here on a bad day.

    It is vastly entertaining. If you like correcting poor grammar.

  102. Pescador says:

    Pouzar: I wasn’t suggesting that. Often I like to offer up talking points…to…..talk about.

    It’s not the talking points!

  103. Pouzar says:

    Jethro Tull: There’s a hockey rumour mill called Hockey Feed on FB. Sports equivalent of Ancient Aliens. If a player falls over, there’s”possible injury” articles, and countless ‘insider’ trade proposals. Like here on a bad day.

    It is vastly entertaining. If you like correcting poor grammar.

    The 4chan of hockey rumors? sweet.

  104. Soup Fascist says:

    On the positive side of the equation, My Cousin Vinny is on the tube.

  105. McSorley33 says:

    Just got back from the game…..

    To all the people that live and go see games in Edmonton….you have been holding out on us.

    Like Ryan Whitney and Eric Gryba, Mark Letestu has to be seen live to be appreciated.

    Mark. Letestu. Wow.

  106. SwedishPoster says:

    Yep certainly a sloppy but entertaining game. The fourth line was a mess both as a unit and individually. I see a lot of critique of the D, and it is warranted, Davidson – Larsson was all over the place, I guess Larsson decided to celebrate christmas both on the 24th when we do it over here and the 25th when you guys do it, but the D got raw deal from a forward group doing an awful job defending through the neutral zone with zero back pressure giving up sooo many odd man rushes letting the Jets fly through the neutral zone unchallenged. Not easy looking good as a D with that kind of support. They handle it badly though, scrambling way too much, running around instead of protecting the most dangerous ice.

    For the second game in a row Cammalleri buzzed around the periphery like a drunk bumblebee, losing possession every time he got close to the puck. Needs to sit.

  107. JimmyV1965 says:

    Pouzar: I wasn’t suggesting that. Often I like to offer up talking points…to…..talk about.

    Lol. Great response!!

  108. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    thehop:
    OilClog,

    Apparently large segments of fans overrate that part of his game….

    OilClog,

    According to one poster… that part of his game is overvalued.

    Way to put words in my mouth that I did not say. This is not the first time you have tried to start something with me and I am not biting. If you want to re-read and engage with what I actually did aay I am happy to do so. Otherwise let’s save us both and everyone else the aggravaion.

  109. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    I never said anything about Kassian’s crash and bang game or PK game or penalties drawn or takeni beng overvalued. Never used the word overvalued at all.

    To be fair what I should have added was ‘scoring’ to the word ability. And I said overestimated for a reason. Every year he looks like he should have 15-20 goals based on chances. Yet he does not. Some vocal fans have wanted him higher up the order. His offensive skill does not warrant it. He is slotted just right if you ask me.

    I think he is an ideal 4th line guy who can play 3rd line when needed and his value goes up with the playoffs.

    I am not going to repost old arguments when I was not even being critical of the guy. Never said anything about him coasting. That was someone else.

  110. deardylan says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Way to put words in my mouth that I did not say. This is not the first time you have tried to start something with me and I am not biting. If you want to re-read and engage with what I actually did aay I am happy to do so. Otherwise let’s save us both and everyone else the aggravaion.

    GB way not to bite!

    Hey I just went to check out your blog and said it hasn’t been updated for over a year. Can you please go out for a bite and share some Tokyo stories from your adventures when you do!

  111. thehop says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I’m not one for arguing semantics. You wrote overestimate and I wrote overvalued.

    I’ll go back to skipping over what you write to avoid this in the future.

    Didn’t put words in your mouth either. Clearly there are many many fans of the team who like that part of Kassians game. If you don’t that’s fine.

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    Go Oilers – going to be a great game against CHI on Saturday morning!

  113. sliderule says:

    I have seen Davidson mostly bad since oil picked him up.

    Gryba got roasted when he made a mistake.Davy gets mostly a pass .

    Last night he cost the game with a horrible own blue pinch and errant pass.

    Habs saw it too.

  114. T0ML says:

    sliderule,

    He has had some wobbly moments …. But Larsson is also to blame on that horrible 2 on 1 read, even SN pointed it out, that was bad moves on Larsson last night …

  115. sliderule says:

    T0ML:
    sliderule,

    He has had some wobbly moments …. But Larsson is also to blame on that horrible 2 on 1 read, even SN pointed it out, that was bad moves on Larsson last night …

    It was a bad read by Larsson.Have to block pass but in fairness it came at him quick as Davidson’s pinch probably surprised him as much as it did me.

  116. T0ML says:

    sliderule: It was a bad read by Larsson.Have to block pass but in fairness it came at him quick as Davidson’s pinch probably surprised him as much as it did me.

    Not arguing that, however it was two sequences for Larsson that botched it…. Turned his back at the pass, *and* the shooter …. That pass was 100% his responsibility and he has the ability to break that one up. Talbot was a damned beast last night and deserved a better fate

  117. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    thehop,

    Overestimate and overvalue don’t mean the same thing, though. It’s not really semantics here.

    Overestimating means people are forecasting too high in terms of what his offensive ability might be if given a bigger role or better linemates.

    Overvaluing means people are placing too much value on his offensive contribution.

    I think his 4th line contribution is just fine. To me he just isn’t suited for a bigger role. Peak Kassian in a bigger role could barely crack 15 goals on the Canucks playing some minutes with the Sedins and others.

    If he can pot 10 goals from the 4th line, PK and bring his physical game that has good value. I just don’t want to see him further up the lineup.

    Not sure what I said that has annoyed you so much. Please enlighten me? Was it the comment that I was shouted down about this by fans who wanted him on the 2nd line or even on McDavid’s wing? Because there were fans who said that. I didn’t single you or anyone else out because there is no point in calling out someone specific for a mistaken opinion. At least that’s how I see it. Why embarrass someone specific?

    Again, still trying to figure out what it is that I did to you where you feel like you need to call me out like this. If I did something and you can point it out to me then I am all ears and if I did you wrong I certainly will apologize.

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