G38 2017-18: Blackhawks at Oilers

The Edmonton Oilers wrap up the first truly successful month of the 2017-18 season this weekend, with games against Chicago and Winnipeg. The current December record is 7-4-0 and allowed the club to recover from much of the early-season malaise. How close to 10 wins can the Oilers get in December? We’ll find out this weekend.

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 LONG DECEMBER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • December 2015: 7-3-1, goal differential -2 (15 points)
  • December 2016: 6-2-3, goal differential +2 (15 points)
  • December 2017: 7-4-0, goal differential +10 (14 points)

G12 in 2015-16 was a 5-3 loss to the Calgary Flames, and last year saw Edmonton lose 3-2 in overtime to the San Jose Sharks. A win tonight gets the Oilers to eight wins and 16 points, that’s a fine month.

AFTER 38 GAMES, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 15-19-3, goal differential -20 (33 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 19-12-6, goal differential +10 (44 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 17-18-2, goal differential -5 (36 points)

G38 in 2015-16 saw the Oilers lose 5-2 to the Los Angeles Kings (Jonathan Quick stopped 42 of 44), last season was a 3-2 shootout loss to the Vancouver Canucks.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM DECEMBER

  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected: 0-0-1) (Actual: 1-0-0)
  • At home to: Philadelphia (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual: 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Montreal, Toronto, Columbus (Expected 1-2-0) (Actual 2-1-0)
  • At home to: Nashville (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose, St. Louis, Montreal (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 3-0-0)
  • On the road to: Winnipeg (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Chicago, Winnipeg (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-2, 12 points in 13 games 
  • Current results: 7-4-0, 14 points in 11 games

A win tonight would mean eight W’s during December, the most by Edmonton since March 2017 (9) and January 2017 (also 9). The Oilers need some 8-4-1 and 9-5-1 months moving forward, getting everything from December is a grand idea.

CAMERON HEBIG

I had him ranked No. 138 for the 2016 entry draft, talked to a scout (not an NHL scout) about him that spring and got the idea Hebig might have a chance. He lost an entire season to injury after that but there was something there in 2016 and the Oilers clearly feel he has the ability to play pro hockey.

  • RHC, 6.0, 182
  • 35gp, 28-23-51, 177 shots
  • 56.1 faceoff percentage
  • Scouting Report: Displays speed, skill and grit. He can  make  plays  at  high  speed  and  has  soft  hands when  both  giving  and  receiving a pass. Tends to play at 100 miles per hour at all times, needing to learn to  slow down as he gets older and more experienced. He plays a sound defensive game. 

That isn’t my scouting report but a snippet of one from two summers ago that was passed along to me. I think this is a fine signing, in an area where the Oilers badly need help (offense at the center position). Suspect this will be one of many additions at forward now through draft day.

WHERE WOULD HE RANK?

This is my Winter Top 20 for 2017, and the addition of Hebig gives us something to discuss. I’d have him somewhere in the 22-26 range, not sure he’d be ahead of Tyler Vesel or Joey Laleggia, but maybe above Gambardella based on what we know. Phil Kemp would be the highest riser since the ranking, Greg Chase is no longer in the organization. Filip Berglund’s signing a new SHL contract does not impact his ranking.

A tough night for Team USA at the World Juniors, and a loss to Canada today puts the host nation in a tough spot. I saw most of the game, Slovaks got about five golden chances and cashed three of them. The World Juniors is identical to basketball’s March Madness in that upsets are possible in the early rounds. Even with that understood, last night’s result was a shocker.

I wrote about this at The Athletic (here), there’s not really a good trade fit in my opinion. The Oilers could go Patrick Maroon, pick, prospect, but the Senators no doubt want young players who can have an immediate impact while also being value contracts. I think the ask from Ottawa might include the 2018 first-round pick and that may be a deal killer. Teams don’t line up.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10, TSN 1260, it’s the New Year’s edition of the show! Party hats, free flowing freshie, it’s going to get wild! Scheduled to appear:

  • Steve Lansky, Big Mouth Sports. Remembering Johnny Bower, Oilers big weekend.
  • Frank Seravalli, TSN. WJ’s fireworks began last night, USA in a tough spot now.
  • Matt Iwanyk, TSN1260. Oilers still in the race at New Year’s, where will they be on Valentine’s Day?

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Spooky Lynx says:

    Munny:
    Tripping is okay as long as you’re not the puck carrier, not like it’s interference or anything

    I work for the NHL and this is correct.

  2. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    The story is writing itself

  3. GMB3 says:

    LadiesloveSmid:
    Oil will be 2 below .500 but in moral victories are 6 over, so nothing to worry about

    Can’t beat a rookie 32YO goalie, don’t deserve to be in the playoff race

    Put a shooter tutor in, same effect I’d imagine

    McDavids linemates should score 30 with the opportunities he sets them up with.

  4. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Yeah, the PK is doing well…they did kill one off. 33% Woot!

  5. Surrey Oiler says:

    Good night, good bye playoffs

  6. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Wow… who was it that called Oesterle’s first goal?

  7. Munny says:

    And they’re back to looking fragile

  8. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Is it just me or had maroon been utterly invisible lately?

  9. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Well this has been disheartening to the extreme.

    Todd with a brain dead decision demoting JP for Cagguila but that didn’t lose the game

    Agree with NYC two bad games in a row for Nuge.

  10. delooper says:

    Do more former Oilers have their first NHL goal against the Oilers, or do more Oilers draft picks get their goals playing for the Oilers?

    Call this stat the Development Embarrassment Index.

  11. fishman says:

    Time for a forensic audit? How can the PK be that bad?

  12. Hockey Project says:

    Wow, did that GA ever deflate the team.

  13. Pescador says:

    Munny:
    And they’re back to being fragile

    fixed

  14. OilClog says:

    How is Drake on the 1st line? Gross

  15. Gerta Rauss says:

    Surrey Oiler:
    Good night, good bye playoffs

    I try to be a glass half full kind of fan, but there is some truth to this. They clawed their way back to fake .500 before the break and they’ve pretty much flushed whatever chance they had with these 2 games after the break

    8 min left in this game but I’m not hopeful

  16. leadfarmer says:

    This is a bad team. Built around grittensity and not enough skill
    Strome is a bad bad player

  17. BONE207 says:

    Rush, take a shot then defend for 30 seconds. Rinse repeat…

  18. hags9k says:

    The break came at a bad time apparently. They had a full head of steam, and a few days off and they are a steaming pile. Completely lost the script.

    Just awful. Must be another bug going around the room. *worlds biggest eye roll*

  19. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Going into the 3rd down by a goal they’ve mustered 3 shots.

  20. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    So when everyone asks why the oilers missed the playoffs at the end of the season, the answer will be… no Hendricks and pouliot?
    Man the pk is dreadful…

  21. jtblack says:

    I guess PC now has to pay the Piper. Too many holes. Thats on the GM.

    I will save the TMac rant for another post.

  22. GMB3 says:

    OilClog:
    How is Drake on the 1st line? Gross

    Good Italian bloodlines

  23. fishman says:

    Have they had a closed door players only meeting yet this season? If not might be time. If they don’t figure it out now time to start talking draft.

  24. Munny says:

    Unbelievably stays out again

  25. hags9k says:

    First NHL game. Said to myself, why even play the game, Glass will be 1st star.

  26. leadfarmer says:

    I would like to see Lucic with Drai and JP.
    And please find some wingers for Mcdavid

  27. GMB3 says:

    Ryan Strome may not even be jordan Eberles defensive equal

  28. digger50 says:

    Same weaknesses we’ve seen most of the year. A few wins and Talbot stops and they were brushed off, but they are still there.

  29. Pescador says:

    I’m predicting the following will not be back next season:
    Letestu, Maroon, Camalleri, Strome, McLellan.
    I miss anyone

  30. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    The Canucks dominated these Hawks. Right. Checks clock…after noon (here in Tokyo). Grabs the bottle of Talisker.

  31. fishman says:

    GMB3:
    Ryan Strome may not even be jordan Eberles defensive equal

    Careful or us fans will be guilty again of being too demanding of our teams players!

  32. Thinker says:

    Game would be 1-1 if we drafted Debrincat and retained Oesterle over Gryba.

  33. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Pescador:
    I’m predicting the following will not be back next season:
    Letestu, Maroon, Camalleri, Strome, McLellan.
    I miss anyone

    Slepyshev, Klefbom (?!), Nuge (?!)

  34. BONE207 says:

    Pescador:
    I’m predicting the following will not be back next season:
    Letestu, Maroon, Camalleri, Strome, McLellan.
    I miss anyone

    Just the DJ

  35. Munny says:

    First flash of something from Nuge this game.

  36. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    I’d be pulling the goalie soon. Might as well. Season slipping away.

  37. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Isn’t maroon playing for a contract? Does he know this?

  38. GMB3 says:

    “Hard to play against Patrick Maroon” is sure easy to defend on the rush and in transition

  39. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    The Rexall..I mean Rogers Place DJ is still horrible.

  40. fishman says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Isn’t maroon playing for a contract? Does he know this?

    Maroon playing tonight?

  41. hags9k says:

    Munny,

    Worst I’ve seen 93 this year. And he has lots of company tonight.

  42. GMB3 says:

    Peter Chiarelli and Todd Mclellan connor deserve the wonder that is McDavid

  43. Munny says:

    Cast Away!!!

  44. Thinker says:

    Pescador:
    I’m predicting the following will not be back next season:
    Letestu, Maroon, Camalleri, Strome, McLellan.
    I miss anyone

    DFC (Drake Cagguila), Slepyshev, Brossoit, maybe Marky Mark. Not sure how it happened, but we went from a couple pieces away to half a roster away. Is this what happens when you elevate tweeners with no cover behind them?

  45. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    hags9k:
    First NHL game.Said to myself, why even play the game, Glass will be 1st star.

    It’s pretty rediculous at this point… oilers have for sure been cursed by the hockey gods… and they had to give out the oilers’ actual season results to a different team to balance out said curse, so they thought it would be hilarious if they gave it to Vegas.

    That’s my tin foil hat theory…

  46. Gerta Rauss says:

    yeah OK

  47. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Too little too late and it excuses nothing.

  48. GMB3 says:

    GMB3:
    “Hard to play against Patrick Maroon” is sure easy to defend on the rush and in transition

    Fuck me and my cold takes

  49. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Dallas comes back to beat St Louis. Calgary ties Anaheim, maybe a 3 pt game coming. So long postseason…come on Oilers, show us something to be optimistic about.

  50. Munny says:

    or Nugget

  51. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Crazy Pedestrian,

    Love this hahahah

  52. delooper says:

    RNH goal.

  53. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Nuge has a bad game and still somehow has points on both Oiler goals. Funny them breaks.

  54. delooper says:

    Oil have a chance.

  55. Spooky Lynx says:

    Jesse should be getting an apple on that one too, methinks.

  56. deardylan says:

    100 seconds left for playoffs?

  57. Gerta Rauss says:

    Drake needed to 1 time that…

  58. GMB3 says:

    GMB3: Fuck me and my cold takes

    Nvm he didn’t tip it. Still good

  59. Munny says:

    DRAI!!!!!

  60. deardylan says:

    100 seconds for Dahlin Draft Lottery?

  61. BONE207 says:

    Woohoo

  62. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    I’m still mad

  63. Gerta Rauss says:

    hahahahahaha…..

    Chicago can kiss my ass…!

  64. GMB3 says:

    I don’t even know what to believe anymore

  65. delooper says:

    Woot!

  66. deardylan says:

    80 seconds to playoffs?

  67. OilClog says:

    Woooooo

  68. fishman says:

    Quick hide the pitch forks and torch’s!

  69. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    delooper:
    Oil have a chance.

    At 1st overall pick?

  70. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Dallas comes back to beat St Louis. Calgary ties Anaheim, maybe a 3 pt game coming. So long postseason…come on Oilers, show us something to be optimistic about.

    THERE WE GO!

  71. D says:

    I don’t believe what we just saw!

  72. delooper says:

    Where was this Oilers team for the past 58 minutes?

  73. GMB3 says:

    GMB3: Nvm he didn’t tip it. Still good

    Nvm we are back

  74. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    How bout dem apples

  75. OilClog says:

    Still pitchfork these coaches a new one

  76. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    I love and hate this team equally

    Leon you beauty

  77. deardylan says:

    100 seconds win?!… TSN turning point for the season

  78. delooper says:

    RNH has had a pretty nice game. I’ve seen some criticism in this thread, but I’ve liked his game.

  79. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    If only they played with this urgency before 58 minutes have elapsed?

    Come on. One more. In regulation would be sweet.

  80. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Glass has been incredible tonight… That goal took three attempts to get in

  81. deardylan says:

    25 seconds for WIN?!

  82. fishman says:

    Well gotta get two points now or will feel like a loss!

  83. Jethro Tull says:

    Asking for official Oilers defrib for next Christmas.

  84. LMHF#1 says:

    This is why this team pisses me off.

    Thanks for showing up guys…

  85. GMB3 says:

    RNH hasn’t had a strong game and he has 3 points. Funny how this game works

  86. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    delooper:
    RNH has had a pretty nice game.I’ve seen some criticism in this thread, but I’ve liked his game.

    By my eye he has struggled for most of the game, but can’t argue with the results–i.e. the stat sheet. I temper my criticism. He’s my favourite Oiler still and so I am sometimes harsh on him. I have just expected so much more from his career and I still hold out hope he becomes a regular 25-goal, 70-pt 2-way player.

  87. LMHF#1 says:

    Réal Goudenyéu:
    Glass has been incredible tonight… That goal took three attempts to get in

    Nope. They’ve been making him look good.

  88. Munny says:

    Oh Fortuna?

    That seems assholish from a home DJ.

  89. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Potentially season-saving game right here if they can get the win.

  90. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    LMHF#1:
    This is why this team pisses me off.

    Thanks for showing up guys…

    I’m sure someone will point out the shot total. I won’t tho

  91. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    :] on the ice for all 3 goals

  92. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Munny:
    Oh Fortuna?

    That seems assholish from a home DJ.

    See my post above!

  93. leadfarmer says:

    When we do an autopsy on this season I think a picture of Caggula next to Mcdavid would summarize it pretty well. We have one RW worth a damn and he is learning the game in the NHL

  94. Munny says:

    Fuck me

  95. LMHF#1 says:

    What was that Cam???

  96. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Horrible

  97. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    Fuckin hawks…

  98. Spooky Lynx says:

    What a goal by Kane. That’s all world right there.

  99. Gerta Rauss says:

    We didn’t touch the puck in OT…

    shitty

  100. Munny says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    It was your post that made me pay closer attention…

  101. D says:

    That’s still the best one point earned all season. I’ll take it. Move on to the next game.

  102. GMB3 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): By my eye he has struggled for most of the game, but can’t argue with the results–i.e. the stat sheet. I temper my criticism. He’s my favourite Oiler still and so I am sometimes harsh on him. I have just expected so much more from his career and I still hold out hope he becomes a regular 25-goal, 70-pt 2-way player.

    I don’t think he will ever put up 70 pts with the role he plays in regards to PP opportunities but I do agree. He’s an incredibly gifted player, but took on a huge responsibility very early in his career

  103. Gerta Rauss says:

    Jethro called the 45 shots (and loss) after the first period

  104. LMHF#1 says:

    Something wrong with Leon. 2 bad GAs and couldn’t skate all night.

  105. Munny says:

    Jethro Tull:
    Asking for official Oilers defrib for next Christmas.

    The red light goes on every time the other team scores.

  106. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    D:
    That’s still the best one point earned all season.I’ll take it.Move on to the next game.

    Point stolen right there for sure. It’s still a moral victory in a season full of those and not enough real victories.

  107. GMB3 says:

    Imagine how good Marchessault would look with McDavid if we could have somehow figured a way to pick him up this off season

  108. Munny says:

    Can I buy a beer that specifically targets certain brain cells?

  109. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Lots of similarities between the Canada WJC game today and the Oilers tonight.

    No reason the score should hav been what it was but they got a point

    Todd with the inexplicable decision to promote Cagguila and demote JP, maybe folks smarter than I can explain it but that is HORRIBLE line management IMO

    Two games, two very sour tastes left in my mouth, not impressed

  110. BONE207 says:

    Can’t believe CONNOR didn’t score. Like global warming.
    .I can’t fathom it

  111. hags9k says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    I love and hate this team equally

    Leon your jock is in row 6.

  112. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    hags9k,

    Truth! Hahahaha

  113. GMB3 says:

    Munny:
    Can I buy a beer that specifically targets certain brain cells?

    Colt 45 is good bang for your buck according to my gpa first semester of university

  114. hags9k says:

    delooper:
    RNH has had a pretty nice game.I’ve seen some criticism in this thread, but I’ve liked his game.

    I love Nuge, and even on a bad night he’s a nice player. But by his standards he was fighting it tonight.

  115. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    And now we’re 6 points from wildcard spot again… geez can’t seem to gain (and keep) any ground…

  116. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Out-of-town Scoreboard:

    Min vs Nsh: want Nsh to win, Minny wins.
    Tor vs Col: want Tor to win, Col wins.
    Dal vs Stl: want Stl to win, Dal wins.
    Cgy vs Ana: want to avoid a 3-pt game, tied 2-2 going into the 3rd.

    Oilers losing ground even with the loser point.

  117. BONE207 says:

    Munny:
    Can I buy a beer that specifically targets certain brain cells?

    With or without blood?

  118. Mr. D. says:

    3 goals for…could win games
    4 goals against….seldom win games
    How about some Frickn defense you puck movers!
    20+ giveaways mostly D men.

  119. hags9k says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    This fucking team!

    Well at some point in the season we need to pick up some single points. Our record just can’t afford too many more regulation losses. We stole a point late, we’ll take it and hope for a much sharper, more determined 60 minute effort vs the Jets.

  120. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    hags9k,

    I think I saw a tweet that showed the Oilers Home PK percentage hovering in the low 50% range, which is historically bad by about 15-20%…

    Somebody (hell anybody!!!) needs to pay dearly for that and at this point I don’t care who it is

  121. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    hags9k,

    I think I saw a tweet that showed the Oilers Home PK percentage hovering in the low 50% range, which is historically bad by about 15-20%…

    Somebody (hell anybody!!!) needs to pay dearly for that and at this point I don’t care who it is

    It would be a record to never be broken I think

  122. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    hags9k:
    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    This fucking team!

    Well at some point in the season we need to pick up some single points.Our record just can’t afford too many more regulation losses.We stole a point late, we’ll take it and hope for a much sharper, more determined 60 minute effort vs the Jets.

    So we’re at 14.5 on the countdown clock of doom?

  123. hags9k says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    On paper we have a good coach, good goalie and a half dozen guys who should make very capable PKers. WHY can’t they kill penalties?

    When the numbers are that bad, it has to be both the tactics and the personnel.

    Or Aliens?

  124. texmex says:

    Just saw the OT winner by Kane.

    Just saw a tweet from rishaug shitting on Drai.

    There is no way that goal was on Drai. As a forward playing D, can you imagine playing kne 1-1?? Absolutely terrifying

  125. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Some arithmetic:

    Oilers PP goals for: 18
    Oilers PP goals against (shorties given up): -7
    Oilers PK goals against ( pp goals gven up): -33
    Oilers PK goals scored (shorties scored): 3

    Net special teams differential: -19
    Oilers goal differential on the year: -7
    5 v 5 differential (not accounting for empty net goals against): +12

    I mean, that’s just awful and some heads have got to roll for that given the talent on this team.

  126. Thinker says:

    texmex:
    Just saw the OT winner by Kane.

    Just saw a tweet from rishaug shitting on Drai.

    There is no way that goal was on Drai. As a forward playing D, can you imagine playing kne 1-1?? Absolutely terrifying

    Doesn’t mean he didn’t play it shitty. I don’t want Shaq covering Kobe, but if he gets burned, that’s still on Shaq.

  127. Pescador says:

    Munny:
    Can I buy a beer that specifically targets certain brain cells?

    Best to just carpet bomb the works,
    Fuck em

  128. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    hags9k,

    At home I think it’s a microcosm of the season.

    1) things start off ok, players move in unison, cut off lanes and everything is hunky doory

    2) the second the opposing team breaks for a single chance or shot against all hell breaks loose

    2b) brainfart play ends up in back of net

    3) players chase, try to make a play themselves and then options are wide open for the opposition

    4) rinse and repeat

    In tonight’s game the first PK goal against followed the 2b model. The second was a weird bounce that I’m willing to discount (not excuse but discount).

    The vast majority of PK goals this year are the former 2 and 2b and not the latter bad bounce. They stop panicking and chasing they kill it off

    The bizarre thing that I cannot explain is the extreme difference between home and road PKs, I don’t get it, I don’t understand it and I have no idea how to fix it.

  129. who says:

    Not gonna shit on Drai but you could see that goal coming long before the puck got to Kane. The minute he let him go loop in the corner and stood still in front of the net you knew it was trouble.
    That is a skill players wet dream right there. Big gap, your feet are moving and the defender is standing still.

  130. Pescador says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: So we’re at 14.5 on the countdown clock of doom?

    Should be covered by the deadline

  131. texmex says:

    Thinker,

    I agree 100%. But Kane has done that countless times against all world defensemen.

  132. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    No sense shitting on Drai on that play. Oilers might be better served to start 2 D and 1F vs Kane, then switch to 2F and 1D when he leaves the ice for Toews or whoever else. I mean, he is the one guy you just can’t get beat by on that team. If the Hawks win the draw then your advantage of having Drai and McDavid goes out the window.

  133. who says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    No sense shitting on Drai on that play. Oilers might be better served to start 2 D and 1F vs Kane, then switch to 2F and 1D when he leaves the ice for Toews or whoever else. I mean, he is the one guy you just can’t get beat by on that team. If the Hawks win the draw then your advantage of having Drai and McDavid goes out the window.

    Good point

  134. texmex says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I was just gonna write this. Was wondering people’s opinion. If you see Kane starting OT, do you go McDavid klef and sekera with last change. I think I would given the importance of points.

    But mcd and Drai 3-3 magic is hard to deny I guess

  135. texmex says:

    One last post. I was all for PC upgrading the roster now at the expense the 1st and more, but that ship has sailed. See what happens with what we have, and cash assets for picks if we’re out by February 1st or deal assets if we are in a WC position

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Last I checked they were down by 2 with about 3 to go so I’m pleasantly surprised to see they lost in OT and earned an important point.

  137. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    texmex:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I was just gonna write this. Was wondering people’s opinion. If you see Kane starting OT, do you go McDavid klef and sekera with last change. I think I would given the importance of points.

    But mcd and Drai 3-3 magic is hard to deny I guess

    Yeah, but I feel, with the benefit of hindsight, of course, that if you play to weather Kane on the first shift, especially as possession is, at best a 50/50 proposition on the faceoff, you could actually do something pretty special.

    Let’s say you throw out Nuge, Klef-Larsson. You lose the draw you have good defensive players out there. You win the draw and or you gain the puck, you keep possession and swap out McDavid for Larsson, then eventually Drai for Nuge. You have Drai-McDavid-Klef with the puck, as opposed to having to play D against Kane if they lose the puck right off the bat.

    That’s probably what I would do against teams that have elite one-on-one scorers. Defend against that until you are sure you have possession, then throw your horses out there.

  138. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Last I checked they were down by 2 with about 3 to go so I’m pleasantly surprised to see they lost in OT and earned an important point.

    It was much needed. Especially as they still lost ground to every team that played that they are trying to catch. Kind of like the silver lining in an otherwise shitty moral victory. At least they showed gumption at the end, but they needed that kind of desperation in the 2nd and 3rd periods much sooner. 1st was well played, just couldn’t cash.

    Ana-Cgy result pending.

  139. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I concur and I’m very puzzled by Gregor taking a strip of Drai. Down low, one on one when both guys are flat footed I’ll give the nod to Kane every single day of the week. I hindsight Drai should have just tackled him but whatever, no point freaking out on that play.

    Now if we rewind the tape to regulation and look at say I dunno the 4th line that’s a different story 😉

  140. Thinker says:

    texmex:
    Thinker,

    I agree 100%. But Kane has done that countless times against all world defensemen.

    He has, but that wasn’t much of a move. Reminded me of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgcL-C5SUqk

  141. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I concur and I’m very puzzled by Gregor taking a strip of Drai. Down low, one on one when both guys are flat footed I’ll give the nod to Kane every single day of the week. I hindsight Drai should have just tackled him but whatever, no point freaking out on that play.

    Now if we rewind the tape to regulation and look at say I dunno the 4th line that’s a different story

    Drai trying to fly the zone with Nuge on the PK where DeBrincat scored–now you could blame him on that one. But I am not going to criticize him from getting beaten by one of the top one-on-one offensive players in the world–maybe the current #1 in close like that.

  142. LMHF#1 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Drai trying to fly the zone with Nuge on the PK where DeBrincat scored–now you could blame him on that one. But I am not going to criticize him from getting beaten by one of the top one-on-one offensive players in the world–maybe the current #1 in close like that.

    He was also the extra guy on the top many men call, and looked like he was skating in mud live.

  143. thehop says:

    Can anyone tell me why Lucic continues to get top minutes with the most talented player in the world?

    He is a terrible shot. Plays go to his stick to die. And he couldn’t keep up with McDavids shadow at high noon.

    And while I’m at it… Why does Drake Caggulia consistently get a push from the coach? I think he might be the worst forward on the team.

  144. LMHF#1 says:

    thehop,

    The Coach and the Coach.

    He consistently deploys less than his best and in a suboptimal way.

  145. thehop says:

    LMHF#1,

    It’s really starting to piss me off.

    Couple your comment with the fact that the special teams are a goddamn tire fire and I start thinking that he isn’t nearly as good as his history suggests.

    Putting Draisatl out against Kane was a boner move as well.

  146. HT Joe says:

    thehop: Couple your comment with the fact that the special teams are a goddamn tire fire and I start thinking that he isn’t nearly as good as his history suggests.

    “mediocre”
    adjective
    – of only moderate quality; not very good.

    It HAS been suggested…

  147. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    thehop,

    There is a disconnect between the Coach and MSM on one side and the fans when it comes to Caggiula. He is constantly invisible, save for the occasional surprise hit or muffin goal, yet the Coach keeps putting him in primo minute positions and the media give him high marks. I don’t get it.

  148. till_horcoff_is_coach says:

    Not to kill your entire point, but they have given up 3 shorties and scored 7. So a net special teams of -11.

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Some arithmetic:

    Oilers PP goals for: 18
    Oilers PP goals against (shorties given up): -7
    Oilers PK goals against ( pp goals gven up): -33
    Oilers PK goals scored (shorties scored): 3

    Net special teams differential: -19
    Oilers goal differential on the year: -7
    5 v 5 differential (not accounting for empty net goals against): +12

    I mean, that’s just awful and some heads have got to roll for that given the talent on this team.

  149. LMHF#1 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    As long as hockey coach is always ‘hockey guy’, they will be able to default to their comfort zone. It sucks.

  150. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    till_horcoff_is_coach,

    Is that right? I was going off foxsports’ hard to read page. I guess the point is weakened but not countered. The Oilers’ special teams have hurt them a lot. An otherwise positive differential team is getting hurt on special teams. This with the best offensive forward in the world on the team.

  151. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I’ll post something tomorrow morning once I get the splits but the majority of the special teams damage against the Oil comes at Rogers Place.

    On the road they are very close to balanced. Not ahead but balanced

  152. Bruce McCurdy says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I’ll post something tomorrow morning once I get the splits but the majority of the special teams damage against the Oil comes at Rogers Place.

    On the road they are very close to balanced. Not ahead but balanced

    Oilers have allowed 23 powerplay goals on home ice. No other team has allowed more than 16 & the league average is 10.

    The Oilers kill rate at home is 57.4%, more than 15% worse than any other team. Indeed it is more than 10% worse than any full (half-)season total recorded by any team since the Oilers entered the league in 1979. The dreadful ’85-86 Red Wings (aka “Dead Things”) are rock bottom on that list at 67.6%.

    Clearly there is a sample size issue here, it’s “only” half a season, so surely that gord awful % is bound to regress towards the meat. But 10% worse than the worst is disgraceful in any sample.

    Tonight the PK was extremely fortunate to kill the first penalty, surviving two minutes of pressure & several good looks. The 2nd PK lasted 48 seconds & the 3rd, just 9 seconds. Oilers PKers went 0/4 on the dot & then played chase. Just horrawful..

  153. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Thank you, Bruce. We all seem to see it. Will those who are in a position to do so hold the coaching staff’s collective feet to the fire on this issue? If it has been directed at them already extensively, forgive me, as I have some distance from Edmonton I am less connected in that regard.

    I just see the same old, same old halfway through the season. There is no regression to the meat when the same issues continue to plague the team. It’s not luck. The system they are deploying looks terrible when compared with what I see from most other teams.

  154. Munny says:

    Bruce McCurdy: The Oilers kill rate at home is 57.4%, more than 15% worse than any other team. Indeed it is more than 10% worse than any full (half-)season total recorded by any team since the Oilers entered the league in 1979. The ’85-86 Red Wings (aka “Dead Things”) are rock bottom on that list at 67.6%.
    Clearly there is a sample size issue here, it’s “only” half a season, so surely that gord awful % is bound to regress towards the meat. But 10% worse than the worst is disgraceful in any sample.

    Those are brain-stunning numbers. And are not accounted for by the personnel on the ice or behind the bench.

    To me this is confounding.

    There is no way this set of personnel is league history bad at the PK. And yet here we are. To date. By a big time amount.

    The level of PK is obviously not outside the curve, however many sigmas it is–and the number must again be stunning–but luck here is destroying true signals. Or a combination with bad goalering earlier.

    No group of NHL players and staff can possibly be as stupid as we have seen.

    Historically stupid.

  155. Munny says:

    I thought Corsica had a penalties drawn/taken feature but can’t find it for the life of me.

  156. Munny says:

    Munny: for the life of me.

    I have no idea what this means.

  157. Munny says:

    *puts down the beer*

  158. OriginalPouzar says:

    I’m taking the point and moving on to the next game against the Jets and looking for two big points.

    I’ll be over the middle of the Pacific when the game is one – thinking about staying off the sports internet and PVRing the game – I will be home around 1am after a 12 hour flight and a 15 hour time change and will need to be at the gym for when it opens at 7am.

    Do i stay up when I get home and watch PVR’d or do I just let myself miss one more game (knowing I will be able to watch pretty much every game for the rest of the season) and keep up with the game online on the plane?

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    I wonder if Gryba will clear waivers.

    If he didn’t have that 2nd year of his contract, I would think he’d get picked for sure but that 2nd year might scare some teams.

  160. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I wonder if Gryba will clear waivers.

    If he didn’t have that 2nd year of his contract, I would think he’d get picked for sure but that 2nd year might scare some teams.

    Numerous posters have pointed out that the whole point of multiple years, just like Gazdic before him was to discourage other teams from claiming him.

    While I disagree with the strategy if true, I do believe those posters are correct.

  161. JimmyV1965 says:

    Anyone questioning the coach for putting out McDavid and Drai for the OT should really give their head a shake. Those two might be the best OT duo in the league. You lead with them every single time.

  162. The Trade Guy says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Oilers have allowed 23 powerplay goals on home ice. No other team has allowed more than 16 & the league average is 10.

    The Oilers kill rate at home is 57.4%, more than 15% worse than any other team. Indeed it is more than 10% worse than any full (half-)season total recorded by any team since the Oilers entered the league in 1979. The dreadful ’85-86 Red Wings (aka “Dead Things”) are rock bottom on that list at 67.6%.

    Clearly there is a sample size issue here, it’s “only” half a season, so surely that gord awful % is bound to regress towards the meat. But 10% worse than the worst is disgraceful in any sample.

    Tonight the PK was extremely fortunate to kill the first penalty, surviving two minutes of pressure & several good looks. The 2nd PK lasted 48 seconds & the 3rd, just 9 seconds. Oilers PKers went 0/4 on the dot & then played chase.Just horrawful..

    PK is historically bad and special teams stinks in general. The team does…. nothing!

    Pete and the coaches gassed the season.

  163. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Anyone questioning the coach for putting out McDavid and Drai for the OT should really give their head a shake. Those two might be the best OT duo in the league. You lead with them every single time.

    Thanks but no thanks to the head shaking.

  164. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    You can throw McDavid and Drai out there as soon as you have the puck in possession. Why do they have to be out for the opening faceoff? It also depends on what the other team has on their side. Not every team has a Patrick Kane so for a lot of the games it does make sense to run McDavid and Drai right away.

    But there might have been a better way last night.

    Perhaps you might allow yourself to be open to other opinions, too?

  165. russ99 says:

    Can’t be too down about last night. Sometimes the opposition gets every break and we get a dozen open looks and can’t score, their goalmouth dribblers go in, ours don’t.

    Good comeback to get the point.

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