G53 2017-18: Oilers at Ducks

We’re about two months away from exit meetings and possibly ownership following through on changes. It might impact the front office, coaching staff, scouting staff, it will absolutely impact the roster. What is the state of the organization? My suspicion is that one or two plans are sitting on the owner’s desk, or maybe rattling around in his mind. Todd McLellan and Peter Chiarelli may or may not arrive at training camp in the fall in their current roles, but in my opinion a lot of their story depends on the next 30 games. An 82-85 point season is easier to defend than something around 75. These games matter to the Edmonton Oilers. Including tonight.

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GOOD VIBRATIONS, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • February 2016: 2-1-0, goal differential +5 (4 points)
  • February 2017: 1-2-0, goal differential -3 (2 points)
  • February 2018: 1-1-1, goal differential 0 (3 points)
  • February 7, 2016: NYI 8, Edmonton 1 (Source)
  • February 11, 2017: Chicago 5, Edmonton 1 (Source)

This year’s Oilers are not running out of step with either of the two previous McLellan teams, no strong start to any month for Edmonton in recent years. Does Talbot go tonight and Montoya tomorrow, or vice versa?

AFTER 52, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 21-26-5, goal differential -21 (47 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 28-16-8, goal differential +18 (64 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 23-25-4, goal differential -23 (50 points)
  • February 6, 2016: Montreal 5, Edmonton 1 (Source)
  • February 2, 2017: Nashville 2, Edmonton 0 (Source)

Although we don’t necessarily want to  acknowledge it, the 2015-16 Oilers have shown us a lot about this season, even in recent weeks when some separation has occurred. That item above, the one about a 70-point team not being defensible, while an 82-85 point team would be a little different animal? I believe that to be the case, which makes the deadline interesting. Maybe we see the general manager adding at the deadline. It could happen just this way, maybe taking on the form of a Patrick Maroon extension.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY?

  • At home to: Colorado, Tampa Bay (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Florida (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vegas, Arizona, Colorado (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Boston, Colorado (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 0-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-3, 13 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-1-1, three points in three games

Edmonton’s two games in California this weekend offer the team an opportunity to get back to ‘fake .500’ in the Bettman NHL. If the team goes 15-13-2 from this point to the end of the season, the final record will be 38-38-6, 82 points. In 15-16, the club would go 10-17-3 to finish 31-43-8, 70 points. If this team matches that record, the final scroll will read 33-42-7, 73 points. That would likely get people fired, although it might happen anyway.

LOWETIDE DRAFT LIST, 2008

For some of you, my back story lists are interesting curios. I posted my 2011 list yesterday in the comments section, will pass along the rest in the coming days. We begin with 2008, I’ve left the original comments and the actual draft number is in brackets. Here is the original post.

  1. [1] Steve Stamkos- Terrific talent but just average for 1st overall.
  2. [3] Zach Bogosian- He might end up being the best NHL player in this draft.
  3. [8] Mikael Boedker- Someone’s getting a ridiculous talent.
  4. [2] Drew Doughty- One dimensional, but what a dimension.
  5. [9] Joshua Bailey- Has wide range of skills.
  6. [5] Luke Schenn- A unqiue talent in this draft.
  7. [7] Colin Wilson- Calling card is his ability to take/make a pass.
  8. [14] Zach Boychuk- One dimensional talent has terrific skill.
  9. [6] Nikita Filatov- May be the equal of Stamkos.
  10. [4] Alex Pietrangelo- Mobile defender, raw compared to the group above him.
  11. [10] Cody Hodgson- Wide range of skills.
  12. [16] Joe Colborne- Playmaking center comes with size and risk.
  13. [46] Colby Robak- Size, speed and skill. Terrific package.
  14. [11] Kyle Beach- John Ferguson reincarnated.
  15. [20] Michael DelZotto- Good offense, needs work without the puck.
  16. [22] Jordan Eberle- Skill forward with big brain. Born Oiler.
  17. [24] Mattias Tedenby- Speed, skill and energy. Undersized.
  18. [17] Jake Gardiner- Sleeper. Terrific speed, smarts. 6-2, 170.
  19. [25] Greg Nemisz- Shooter with some size.
  20. [19] Luca Sbisa- Solid D prospect with wide range of skills.
  21. [15] Erik Karlsson- Intelligent puck mover is very small (5-11, 165).
  22. [36] Corey Trivino- Skilled playmaker, variety of skills. Undersized.
  23. [12] Tyler Myers- Huge defender who skates well. Not much offense.
  24. [13] Colton Teubert- Rock hard D with speed. A born Flame.
  25. [23] Tyler Cuma- Strong 2-way defender is undersized.
  26. [27] John Carlson- Bull in a china shop. Nice range of skills.
  27. [26] Tyler Ennis- Speed demon with skill. 43 goals in the dub.
  28. [21] Anton Gustafsson- Two way C with plus size and skill. Back a concern.
  29. [45] Zac Dalpe- Plus shot, has skill and a work ethic.
  30. [44] Luke Adam- Big scorer from the Q. Speed a concern.

Some hits, some misses, but it’s fun to look back on these items. I’m pleased that Eberle was such a great pick for Edmonton. In just 10 years, the slow defender has paid a heavy price. No way Luke Schenn goes this high in the modern game. Those Karlsson vitals look ridiculous even today, but what a player. The Ottawa Senators can draft like no one’s business, it’s the rest of the business that gets them in trouble.

WHO IS THE BEST OILERS BLUE?

My understanding is that Puck IQ and the brilliant ‘binning’ they employ will soon find its way to our shores. In the meantime, lots of discussion along the good ship Al Gore about who among the Oilers blue is the best. Although it is far past a lost cause, I will once again argue for my friend Corsi Rel as a very good line in the sand. Perfect? No. There is no single stat that gives us the entire photograph. However, Rel is a quick and easy glance into which player is getting the job done across many names. Here are the Oilers’ regulars and their Corsi Rel’s 5×5 via Natural Stat Trick.

  1. Darnell Nurse 2.51
  2. Brandon Davidson 2.11
  3. Andrej Sekera -0.26
  4. Matt Benning -0.29
  5. Oscar Klefbom -0.33
  6. Adam Larsson -1.27
  7. Kris Russell -4.16

As is always the case, Kris Russell doesn’t shine via this metric. In the interests of including Russell’s blocked shots prowess, here are the Fenwick numbers for the group:

  1. Darnell Nurse 3.74
  2. Brandon Davidson 0.85
  3. Oscar Klefbom 0.42
  4. Matt Benning -1.34
  5. Adam Larsson -1.97
  6. Kris Russell -2.33
  7. Andrej Sekera -4.80

All via NaturalStatTrick. The “Shots-against/60 5×5” number is Russell’s best metric that I follow, he is No. 4 (here). It’s okay that we disagree, but if you are touting Oscar Klefbom as a failure then I need to push back on it because that is wildly unfair to the player. Even in an injury season. Kris Russell can defend and that has value, but if Oscar does get dealt let it be known that this blog had his back from Day One until the trade was completed. Klefbom is the real thing.

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    Hebig with a third period assist.

  2. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Safin with a goal and 3 shots half way through the first period.

    Is he still playing center?

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: Oesterle played his entire professional career (4 years IIRC) on the right side. The Leftorium likely meant nothing to him.

    I don’t think that’s true – that is not my recollection at all.

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: A mostly career AHL coach was able to fix him.McLellan is one of the highest paid NHL coaches in history couldn’t seem bothered to even try.

    I believe he was “fixed” by playing on a Stanley Cup caliber team with a defensive group that allowed him to be used approximately – 2nd/3rd pairing ES minutes and PP time.

    He was forced in to 1st pairing tough minutes in Edmonton due to lack of options.

  5. Pescador says:

    godot10,

    Bahh, this is a reach at best
    Shultz was young & talented in need of good NHL players to shelter him.
    Good Players, that’s the reason why Pittsburgh was able to rehabilitate this d man. And part of the reason why he failed in Edmonton.
    By your specious reasoning the only thing stopping the 12/13 Oilers from being Stanley Cup Champions was not having Scotty Bowman to coach them

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    ArmchairGM: Is he still playing center?

    Actually, tonight he was moved back to the right wing – Sea Dogs only dressed 10 forwards for the 3rd straight game.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Samorukov with an assist on the OT winner.

    He finishes with 1G, 1A, 5 shots and plus 2.

  8. VOR says:

    Thinking About the Draft – 11 – The Giant in the Snow – Part Two

    So Harry starts thinking. He starts paying attention. He attends game after game watching the giant. The kid is slow. He doesn’t exactly have elite puck handling skills. But he has remarkable eye hand coordination and the fastest hands Harry has ever seen. On the down side the kid is a gentle giant, way too gentle. With that size he should be intimidating as hell. But he is a lover not a fighter.

    But Harry on his personal draft board has the giant in his top four. Harry is a bit eccentric. He believes nothing matters more than performance on the ice. He thinks most of the best players in that year’s draft are from the O. He thinks the best of them is probably the savage defenceman from Kitchener, then the two kids every body tells him are too small to ever play in the NHL, and then the giant who is too slow and just a complimentary scorer. Character like that comes around once in a generation and he believes with his entire heart and soul that it has to matter.

    He knows his team is going to be picking very high and that nothing he says will have any impact on who they pick. You see he is out of favor, out of options, and soon likely to be out of a job. Harry also knows as dumb as his colleagues, the current wunderkind favorites of the insane owner, they won’t miss the giant if he falls to the second round. So he crafts a devious plan.

    There is a team, one he has great connections with, that has three first round draft picks. Kind of like Boston in 2015. He sets out to convince them to draft the giant with the last of those three picks, near the end of the first round. His clinching argument is a prophecy. He famously scribbles on a piece of notepaper (he is a compulsive note taker, always has a pad and pen with him, even now). He writes this note and gives it to the Assistant GM of this rival team. It’s a bet.

    A crate of fine whiskey is the wager. The note simply says, “Some team will realize what he really is and he will lead them to the Stanley Cup.” The thing is Harry actually believes it. Maybe in saying it he sets the direction for the universe. The AGM says, “but the kid is just riding on other people’s coattails. What happens when he gets to the NHL and is stuck with some 4th line checking center.”

    Harry responds by saying, “well you have one of the game’s greatest centers, what happens if you play the kid with him? What if wherever he goes he plays first line minutes on the first power play with great players? Go on, take him. It will make you look like a genius and screw us over which will make you look like a genius twice.”

    It must go straight from Harry’s lips to God’s ears. Because the rival team takes the giant late in the first round. The dismal job his enemies do of drafting, with some help from Harry, ends their run with his team and Harry move up the food chain. And the giant becomes a complimentary NHL player. The list of players he complements is extraordinary a partial list includes Joe Thorton, Joe Sakic, Peter Forsberg, Gilbert Perrault, Dale Hawrechuk, Pat Lafontaine, Doug Gilmour and on and on. The giant spends his career complimenting Hall of Fame players.

    And so we come to the final part of this story.

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    No slash on the hands there by Bieksa?

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great shift by the Khaira/Strome/Kass line – nice cycle and got the puck to the net.

    Strome is a plus passer in the offensive zone.

  11. OriginalPouzar says:

    No need for McDavid to be taking that draw in his own zone – it leads to a goal against – that one is on the coach.

    As an aside, it would have been nice if McDavid tried to win the draw.

  12. StixMalone says:

    Déjà vu

  13. StixMalone says:

    Ground hog day

  14. StixMalone says:

    Same old

  15. leadfarmer says:

    I’m excited for all the Talbot bashing to follow

  16. StixMalone says:

    Why does it sound so loud in that building? It’s half empty…

  17. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice rush by Slep – likely the nicest play of his North American career.

  18. OriginalPouzar says:

    leadfarmer:
    I’m excited for all the Talbot bashing to follow

    It should actually be coach bashing.

    McDavid doesn’t even try and win faceoffs and he’s out there to take the faceoff in his own zone against a plus plus faceoff team?

  19. Zelepukin says:

    Gotta bury that Sleps.

  20. OilClog says:

    Barzal with a 5 point night hahahahahahaha

  21. StixMalone says:

    Redemption

  22. Sighduck says:

    Oilers games should just be 5 minutes shorter and the Oilers start down a goal!

  23. Zelepukin says:

    OilClog:
    Barzal with a 5 point night hahahahahahaha

    Yes, hilarious.

  24. leadfarmer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I was fasciscious. Talbot gets the blame for each goal even if it’s going 4 feet wide

  25. OilClog says:

    i don’t want to see the Sekera pairing on dzone draws, yuck

  26. StixMalone says:

    Wish he would knock him out

  27. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    i don’t want to see the Sekera pairing on dzone draws, yuck

    What about McDavid taking the faceoff? What a silly coaching decision, a silly decision that cost us an early goal against.

  28. StixMalone says:

    OriginalPouzar: What about McDavid taking the faceoff?What a silly coaching decision, a silly decision that cost us an early goal against.

    Coach doesn’t believe in stats…

  29. Ben says:

    I’ve seen more convincing stage fighting in community theatre Hamlet.

  30. OilClog says:

    Zelepukin: Yes, hilarious.

    Hilarious and hopefully winning! I have him in my FanDuel lineup, 80pts between him and Ebs, everything rides on Mcdavid now lol.

  31. OriginalPouzar says:

    Slepy takes Maroon’s spot on McDavid’s left wing.

  32. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: What about McDavid taking the faceoff?What a silly coaching decision, a silly decision that cost us an early goal against.

    Hmmm.. he is the best player in the world, if things break right there’s a chance no one else has of an advantageous rush.

    Yup, more concerned with Sekera sadly needing to be sheltered and thrown into situations he shouldn’t be.

  33. HT Joe says:

    OilClog:
    Barzal with a 5 point night hahahahahahaha

    Is that his 3rd 5-point game of the season??!!

  34. OilClog says:

    Drake paired with Leon while Jesse rides the pine is reason to be flogged.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    That does not look good for Russell – some may get their wish to see Gryba.

  36. OriginalPouzar says:

    Stuart Skinner stops 34 of 35 in a 5-1 win.

  37. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog: Hmmm.. he is the best player in the world, if things break right there’s a chance no one else has of an advantageous rush.

    Yup, more concerned with Sekera sadly needing to be sheltered and thrown into situations he shouldn’t be.

    McDavid is poor in defensive zone coverage as is Jesse Puljijarvi.

    McDavid is poor in faceoffs, terribly poor.

    Putting that line out there for a defensive zone draw in a tie game is a bad idea – I think it was proven why.

    Coach’s generally put out certain center-men for defensive zone draws – this is not a novel thing I’m bringing up.

    It was a poor coaching choice that goes against the standard coaching choice in the situation and it directly led to a goal against.

  38. leadfarmer says:

    That’s some epic whackapuck

  39. StixMalone says:

    When the Oil collapse all hell breaks loose

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    Drake paired with Leon while Jesse rides the pine is reason to be flogged.

    Jesse is playing on McDavid’s right wing.

  41. OriginalPouzar says:

    Spokane playing against Everett – lets see what Yamamoto can do against the nearly unbeatable Carter Hart.

  42. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice to see Russell back.

  43. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: Jesse is playing on McDavid’s right wing.

    Lies I just saw Leon there! Lol

  44. russ99 says:

    OilClog: Lies I just saw Leon there! Lol

    There’s some crazy double shifting going on. Saw about 5 different wingers with McDavid that shift.

  45. leadfarmer says:

    This team just does not do first periods

  46. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: McDavid is poor in defensive zone coverage as is Jesse Puljijarvi.

    McDavid is poor in faceoffs, terribly poor.

    Putting that line out there for a defensive zone draw in a tie game is a bad idea – I think it was proven why.

    Coach’s generally put out certain center-men for defensive zone draws – this is not a novel thing I’m bringing up.

    It was a poor coaching choice that goes against the standard coaching choice in the situation and it directly led to a goal against.

    I’m not saying it was a wise decision, but it’s never poor to put Mcdavid on the ice. Just the shitty systems that are implemented lol

    Jesse is not bad in his own zone, i blame systems if you think Jesse is bad on the defence side of the game.

  47. OilClog says:

    russ99: There’s some crazy double shifting going on. Saw about 5 different wingers with McDavid that shift.

    Yea

    My masked complaint was just seeing 91 out there, he should never be in the top 6.

  48. VOR says:

    Thinking About the Draft – 11 – The Giant in the Snow

    I am watching the game by the way, so the possibility of error is probably high.

    Ultimately as it must the Giant’s career began to slide into oblivion. At the end he was a gun for hire.

    He ends up taking the only gig open to him. Playing veteran presence and secondary scorer on a team so terrible it deserves its own room in the Hall of Horrible Teams. Rumors persist that for years the team, and they were shit on the ice too, was owned by the Yakuza. Then an ultra right wing religious nut owned them for a year. As the Giant joins the team they are on their third owner in three years, attendance is shrinking, the team is terrible, the only coach they can get is a career assistant coach who may not be right in the head, the GM is inexperienced, weak and a ditherer.

    Turns out the GM only signed the Giant because he thought he could flip him later for a draft pick. Things don’t get off to a good start. The generational talent and team Captain, the guy the team is built around is fighting with the very insecure Head Coach. The coach in a fit of rage strips the star of his captaincy. This does not make things go better – it is a shit storm.

    Meanwhile the GM keeps getting offers from teams wanting to rescue the Giant from this special kind of hell. Other GMs can see him being a very useful part of a cup run. But the dithering GM gave the Giant a NTC. And unbelievably the Giant keeps invoking it, over and over.

    Then comes the night Ted, the coach, snaps. He utterly loses it. He is screaming, throwing chairs, spitting on players, frothing at the mouth. Then he is lifted off his feet. The Giant turns him around, holding him kicking and screaming in the air, looks him in the face and says “you need to calm down.” The Giant sends the coach to his office for a time out.

    Ted stays there for about ten minutes trying to figure out what to do next. Then the way he tells it, “I made the best coaching decision of my life.” He comes out of the room and calls the equipment manager over. He hands him the C, walks over to the Giant and taps him on the chest.

    Two and a half years later Harry’s prophecy comes true. The Giant finds a team, a coach that knows what he really is, and he leads that team to the Stanley Cup. But along the way he does more than that. He mentors the team’s great young players, he helps Ted learn to manage his anger, and the GM learn how not to dither. He also convinces Luke to stick it out and he becomes one of the game’s best owners. Now for all of that what happens? What is his reward? He gets waived through the NHL and rather than go to the minors the Giant retires.

    He goes and starts, yes you guessed it, a children’s charity helping poor and sick children and to date it has helped thousands of children in Canada and the US. But hockey wasn’t quite done with him. The owner offered the Giant the chance to come back and do PR and Community Affairs. And in due course Luke gives him a simple job. “Head a committee to figure where we go next and who leads us there.” The story ends, or begins, with the Giant backing the darkest of dark horses, introducing him to Luke and manipulating the hell out of the situation to get his way, and give a friend a chance at his dream job. And of course his bet on that dark horse pays off. Because the Giant knows character matters.

    Harry has every reason to be proud of the kid he never got a chance to draft

    There is a strange codicil to this story. Because some times good things happen to good people, the Giant’s best years, the ones that make him famous, will come with the team Harry works for, and the trade that makes that possible, Harry will be instrumental in helping to engineer. He will of course use his relationship with the AGM he once convinced to draft a Giant, the most complimentary of complimentary players, to make the trade happen.

    Harry you see believes in the long game. He was sure, as he was shafting his enemies that he was earning a very valuable favor that some day would pay off. Though even Harry never imagined how it would pay off.

    Now how on Earth do you factor people like Harry and players like the Giant into a coherent draft strategy?

  49. flyfish1168 says:

    If the 2015 draft was redone Barzal would probably go top 5

  50. OilClog says:

    Sure glad we get to see Lucic pull up with his patented pull-up low pad head down howitzer of a cannon once in a blue moon over Taylor freaking Hall and his cancerous drag 100 corpses pushing the river play…. big fucking whew there

  51. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog: Lies I just saw Leon there! Lol

    Nope – I typed that literally right after a full shift by Jesse on McDavid’s right wing.

  52. Lowetide says:

    After One

    1-0 ANA
    14-11 EDM shots
    24-22 EDM Corsi for 5×5

  53. OilClog says:

    flyfish1168:
    If the 2015 draft was redone Barzal would probably go top 5

    If the Oilers drafted him, Chia could of traded Nuge and Leon for Codi Ceci and Gallagher straight up. Atleast we’d still have Hallsy

  54. godot10 says:

    Scotty Bowman, John Tortorella, and Dave Andreychuk

  55. JD_Wry says:

    flyfish1168:
    If the 2015 draft was redone Barzal would probably go top 5

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  56. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: Nope – I typed that literally right after a full shift by Jesse on McDavid’s right wing.

    Was that before or after Slep?lol

  57. OilClog says:

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    Imagine if we Barzal was drafted, Chia could or traded Nuge and Leon for Codi Ceci and Gallagher lol.. maybe we’d still have Hall.. might actually be a win..

  58. OilClog says:

    Just ban Sekera from Anaheim

  59. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: I don’t think that’s true – that is not my recollection at all.

    Dude, do some research before you call someone out. You come off like a prick sometimes.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ARJInh3352o

  60. Lowetide says:

    That should be a penalty shot.

  61. StixMalone says:

    Great chances…

  62. OilClog says:

    They call a tripping penalty on a breakaway… that is what a penalty shot is, surprised Toronto hasn’t called goalie interference lol

  63. D says:

    The Oil had some good chances on that PP. But I really wish they could get the puck when Gibson makes a save. Too many ones and dones on that last PP.

  64. JD_Wry says:

    Wait wait wait – the Ducks have Beeksa AND Beauchemin on the blue line?

  65. D says:

    Nice play by Drai.

  66. OilClog says:

    With the performance, Barzal became the first rookie in 100 years to record three five-point games in a single season.

  67. StixMalone says:

    We need a goal here please…

  68. OilClog says:

    Reversing the mindset that came into play when the Oilers traded left wing Taylor Hall to the New Jersey Devils for sturdy defenceman Adam Larsson on June 29, 2016, TFP has learned the Oilers are willing to move blueliner Oscar Klefbom if it meant acquiring a top-line winger.

    https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-listen-on-klefbom/

  69. StixMalone says:

    Ouch

  70. russ99 says:

    Hope Caggs is ok. Puck to the face is never fun.

  71. JD_Wry says:

    The Ducks’ PK couldn’t care less about the shot from the blue line. They stay in formation and wait for the Oilers to take a low-chance shot from the icing line.

  72. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    Reversing the mindset that came into play when the Oilers traded left wing Taylor Hall to the New Jersey Devils for sturdy defenceman Adam Larsson on June 29, 2016, TFP has learned the Oilers are willing to move blueliner Oscar Klefbom if it meant acquiring a top-line winger.

    https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-listen-on-klefbom/

    I read that earlier today and it was one of the worst pieces of hockey “journalism” I have read this year – not a single piece of substance to it.

  73. OriginalPouzar says:

    Slepy sure has his legs tonight – have a solid game.

  74. StixMalone says:

    Nice hit on iron man

  75. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I disagree

  76. StixMalone says:

    Shit

  77. OriginalPouzar says:

    Geezus Russell.

  78. JD_Wry says:

    WTF was that?

  79. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    Dahlin grab the wheel

  80. StixMalone says:

    In deep now. Have to get a quick one now

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice goal Slepy – having himself a game.

  82. StixMalone says:

    Sleps

  83. BornInAGretzkyJersey says:

    OilClog,

    Sleppy disagrees.

  84. D says:

    Nice goal by Slep.

  85. thehop says:

    Tell me that guy doesn’t belong on this roster.

    #FreeslepyFFS

  86. Sighduck says:

    My stream is obviously behind but sweet Jesus Russell is a defensive defenseman on this team….

  87. D says:

    Why is Russell back on the ice?

  88. Fgary says:

    2 more reasons to fire the GM and coach

    1. 4 years of Russell at 4m
    2. sitting shepy over others this season

  89. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    StixMalone:
    In deep now. Have to get a quick one now

    Take your time … slow and steady wins the day. You can always put the game on DVR to watch later.

  90. OilClog says:

    BornInAGretzkyJersey:
    OilClog,

    Sleppy disagrees.

    I agree with Slepy

  91. JD_Wry says:

    thehop: #Freeslepy

    But Chia sees it as:

    Free: Slepy.

  92. OriginalPouzar says:

    D:
    Why is Russell back on the ice?

    If the coach benched a player after every major mistake, we’d have to forfeit games half way though.

    We are already down to 5 d-man for the rest of the night.

  93. D says:

    OriginalPouzar: If the coach benched a player after every major mistake, we’d have to forfeit games half way though.

    We are already down to 5 d-man for the rest of the night.

    I forgot about Sekera’s injury. Good point.

  94. OilClog says:

    JD_Wry: But Chia sees it as:

    Free: Slepy.

    I think he’d be gone already

    It’s more the coach sees it as

    Slepy – sideburns, burned my house down. Free fancy suits

  95. StixMalone says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: Take your time… slow and steady wins the day.You can always put the game on DVR to watch later.

    That’s probably what Tmac is teaching them . Slow it down boys even if we have the fastest player in the world……get McDavid fast wingers please

  96. OilClog says:

    OriginalPouzar: If the coach benched a player after every major mistake, we’d have to forfeit games half way though.

    We are already down to 5 d-man for the rest of the night.

    That’s why it only applies to Russians, and that Swede.

  97. HT Joe says:

    OilClog:
    Reversing the mindset that came into play when the Oilers traded left wing Taylor Hall to the New Jersey Devils for sturdy defenceman Adam Larsson on June 29, 2016, TFP has learned the Oilers are willing to move blueliner Oscar Klefbom if it meant acquiring a top-line winger.

    https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-listen-on-klefbom/

    Whether or not there’s any substance to this story, it stings because Chiarelli has traded away every 1st line winger except for Draisatl (who should be centering his own line). Ouch.

  98. Lowetide says:

    After Two

    2-1 ANA (1-1 tie in the second)
    26-24 Edmonton (13-12 ANA in the second)
    40-36 Edmonton Corsi for 5×5 (16-14 EDM in the second)

  99. ArmchairGM says:

    OilClog:
    Reversing the mindset that came into play when the Oilers traded left wing Taylor Hall to the New Jersey Devils for sturdy defenceman Adam Larsson on June 29, 2016, TFP has learned the Oilers are willing to move blueliner Oscar Klefbom if it meant acquiring a top-line winger.

    https://www.thefourthperiod.com/feb-2018/oilers-willing-to-listen-on-klefbom/

    Now he’s just chasing his tail.

  100. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    Bieksa with the major burn on our PP.

  101. JD_Wry says:

    Thanks Geno. Can’t get enough Beeksa interviews.

  102. Fgary says:

    Oh another one for Fire Chia….That pick that could have been used on that rookie who had 5 assists tonight…..oh that pain of it all !

  103. OilClog says:

    HT Joe,

    Only reason why I posted it, it’s good for everyone to feel that involuntary clench lol

    We traded top line scoring for upper mid D, then signed wrong aged lower med D to unmovable contracts, to only then ship out higher end mid level D in the right age bracket on a beautiful contract for probably Domi straight up.

    Someone needs to stop Chia.

  104. OilClog says:

    ArmchairGM: Now he’s just chasing his tail.

    It’s like his wall calendar ended June 2017, thought well geez this is it, lit a match and is still watching it burn.

  105. D says:

    OilClog:
    HT Joe,

    Only reason why I posted it, it’s good for everyone to feel that involuntary clench lol

    We traded top line scoring for upper mid D, then signed wrong aged lower med D to unmovable contracts, to only then ship out higher end mid level D in the right age bracket on a beautiful contract for probably Domi straight up.

    Someone needs to stop Chia.

    I have a strange feeling that the ownership / upper management has already stopped Chia. I don’t see anymore dumb trades or contracts from Chia because he won’t be allowed to make them.

  106. Ben says:

    Not sure if Connor really needs better wingers. Sid gets by with whoever.

    Drai and Nuge do, though.

  107. OilClog says:

    D: I have a strange feeling that the ownership / upper management has already stopped Chia.I don’t see anymore dumb trades or contracts from Chia because he won’t be allowed to make them.

    Oh I dunno, he could show up with his moustache one day and pull a quick one and suddenly be down Nuge while up Phaneuf lol

  108. OilClog says:

    Ben:
    Not sure if Connor really needs better wingers. Sid gets by with whoever.

    Drai and Nuge do, though.

    Pitts changes coaches every 6 Crosby wingers

    How many is Mcdavid at?

  109. OriginalPouzar says:

    Its crazy that 5 games ago Strome had 3 min on the PK all year and he’s now on the #1 PK unit (and hasn’t been scored on in the 5 games).

  110. D says:

    OilClog: Oh I dunno, he could show up with his moustache one day and pull a quick one and suddenly be down Nuge while up Phaneuf lol

    I wouldn’t put it past him, unfortunately. Ha!

  111. HT Joe says:

    OilClog: Oh I dunno, he could show up with his moustache one day and pull a quick one and suddenly be down Nuge while up Phaneuf lol

    Wait! But Phaneuf shoots left… oh… I see what you did there…

  112. OilClog says:

    Ben,

    How many players are ran through until it’s the coaches.

    Crosby gets by with whoever as his wingers, and they replace the coach when he doesn’t.

    So what’s the numbers of wingers Mcdavid can’t make things happen with until it’s a coaching change instead of sending away all the on ice value.

  113. StixMalone says:

    What sloppy defensive effort

  114. OilClog says:

    HT Joe: Wait!But Phaneuf shoots left… oh… I see what you did there…

    Sens kept offering Erik, but Peter only likes Eric’s.

  115. Fgary says:

    If lucic smashed kesler in the face, I’d say he’s earned his 6 mill this year.

  116. flyfish1168 says:

    Fgary:
    If lucic smashed kesler in the face, I’d say he’s earned his 6 mill this year.

    +2

  117. Ben says:

    You’d think the formula for the coach would be pretty clear: Down 2? Put 97 and 29 back together.

  118. D says:

    Lots of Oilers standing around.

  119. JimmyV1965 says:

    Let’s see. We have Kass, Lucic and Maroon. And Kesler is still running around out there like an idiot. Pathetic. Put JJ on that line. At least he’ll do something.

  120. JD_Wry says:

    Ben: Down 2? Put 97 and 29 back together.

    It’s no use. When your favorite winger is gone with an injury, you might as well just play out the loss and get back to the hotel.

  121. OilClog says:

    Ben:
    You’d think the formula for the coach would be pretty clear: Down 2? Put 97 and 29 back together.

    When Bieksa is calling out the power play during intermission interviews, I don’t think the coaches employ a post 2007 formula maker.

    Where’s Cheechoo when you need him

  122. D says:

    I think the Ducks got more shots on goal for that PP than the Oilers 🙁

  123. StixMalone says:

    Special teams let us down again…

  124. Old Timer says:

    Watching tonight’s game and several things come to mind.
    1. The Oilers defensemen are terrible passers – without exception but Russell and Benning are the worst by far. The Oilers forwards are almost as bad at passing as their D men. The only players with a clue as forwards making passes are McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, Puljujarvi and Strome. The rest have cement hands. Lucic is probably the worst. But it certainly reflects on the ineptitude of the Wingers
    2. The Oilers players are not committed to playing physical hockey. Innumerable times they skate by a Duck player and don’t even bump them much less body check them. the only exception seems to be one shot delivered by Maroon on Cogliano.
    3. They are not committed to making the strong, aggressive plays. They wave at Ducks with one hand on their stick. They try to make a cute play instead of the strong play. They try to make a fancy or pretty pass when they should be making short crisp passes.

    I am a committed fan but I don’t get the impression that all the players are committed.

  125. StixMalone says:

    Russel with redemption

  126. OilClog says:

    Promote that man to wing!

  127. D says:

    Old Timer:
    Watching tonight’s game and several things come to mind.
    1. The Oilers defensemen are terrible passers – without exception but Russell and Benning are the worst by far. The Oilers forwards are almost as bad at passing as their D men. The only players with a clue as forwards making passes are McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, Puljujarvi and Strome. The rest have cement hands. Lucic is probably the worst. But it certainly reflects on the ineptitude of the Wingers
    2. The Oilers players are not committed to playing physical hockey. Innumerable times they skate by a Duck player and don’t even bump them much less body check them. the only exception seems to be one shot delivered by Maroon on Cogliano.
    3. They are not committed to making the strong, aggressive plays. They wave at Ducks with one hand on their stick. They try to make a cute play instead of the strong play. They try to make a fancy or pretty pass when they should be making short crisp passes.

    I am a committed fan but I don’t get the impression that all the players are committed.

    You hit it on the head here.

  128. OilClog says:

    Benning is on the fast track to Europe

  129. StixMalone says:

    Tomorrow we visit the sharks. Tough trip to California. Can they show up in the first period and maybe get the first goal? I’m assuming Montoya starts but wouldn’t surprise me if Talbot is in…

  130. HenryDrix says:

    I wish someone would cut down Getzlaf. Lucic, Nurse, Kassian, Maroon. Are they all afraid of 15?

  131. D says:

    Good night folks. See you tomorrow in San Jose.

  132. HenryDrix says:

    Lucic playing about as nasty as Hall. Very dissappointing

  133. Newton says:

    Another early goal, another 2-0 deficit, another “tough loss” will we screw up a top 5 pick? can we even get a 3rd for Maroon? How can the talking heads even consider re-signing this guy?

  134. Newton says:

    HenryDrix,

    It was mentioned today on talk radio at some point get over the egos and sit him – just like the Hawks did with Seabrook. Show him you mean business. He is a shell of his former self so he needs to be accountable.

  135. HT Joe says:

    So that was regulation loss #26.

    The Oilers lost only 26 games in regulation for all of the 2016-2017 season, but managed that feat in only 53 games this season.

    The team is going to be a seller this trade deadline, but does ownership trust Chiarelli to make any more trades? Does Chia get gassed before the trade deadline?

    We wait…

  136. Zelepukin says:

    Whelp, Feb 26th can’t come soon enough.

  137. JD_Wry says:

    Third game in four nights, in California, on Tabernac Saturday.

    WCGW?

  138. russ99 says:

    Very dispiriting loss.

    Would love to see the Oilers play as a 5 man unit again. So many breakdowns, cherry picking, giving up on the play, blown coverages, not caring enough to go to the wall, not knowing or caring to tie up the damn stick.

    It’s every man for himself out there, not a team.

  139. Zelepukin says:

    If you were a scout who had never watched the Oilers play before tonight and I told you that #58 is a healthy scratch almost every night, you’d make a strong push to acquire him.

  140. godot10 says:

    #ItsAllTaylorHallsFault

  141. nafnikufesin says:

    OriginalPouzar: From the 84/85 season to the 88/89 season, Mario Lemieux had 715 points in 368 games and played 11 playoff games.

    Some ultra elite and generational players played on some bad teams over time.

    And the Penguins fired both their coach and general manager prior to putting the pieces together. There also wasn’t a salary cap factor back then. My point still stands.Chia is failing, and failing badly.

  142. russ99 says:

    godot10:
    #ItsAllTaylorHallsFault

    Hall hasn’t been an Oiler for 589 days. Getting pretty sick of that.

    There’s plenty to gripe about other than continuing to beat the skeletal remains of that horse.

  143. digger50 says:

    D: I have a strange feeling that the ownership / upper management has already stopped Chia.I don’t see anymore dumb trades or contracts from Chia because he won’t be allowed to make them.

    But he can still send out an e mail! Lol

  144. godot10 says:

    Chiarelli and McLellan changed all the players, Literally all the players.

  145. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Fgary:
    If lucic smashed kesler in the face, I’d say he’s earned his 6 mill this year.

    He might as well do something. Take a horrendous suspension, send a new message to the league – Milan be Marchand psycho x 2! Or retire, or LTIR.

  146. Pescador says:

    Old Timer:
    Watching tonight’s game and several things come to mind.
    1. The Oilers defensemen are terrible passers – without exception but Russell and Benning are the worst by far. The Oilers forwards are almost as bad at passing as their D men. The only players with a clue as forwards making passes are McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, Puljujarvi and Strome. The rest have cement hands. Lucic is probably the worst. But it certainly reflects on the ineptitude of the Wingers
    2. The Oilers players are not committed to playing physical hockey. Innumerable times they skate by a Duck player and don’t even bump them much less body check them. the only exception seems to be one shot delivered by Maroon on Cogliano.
    3. They are not committed to making the strong, aggressive plays. They wave at Ducks with one hand on their stick. They try to make a cute play instead of the strong play. They try to make a fancy or pretty pass when they should be making short crisp passes.

    I am a committed fan but I don’t get the impression that all the players are committed.

    Excellent post,
    They love the term ‘professional’ when they speak about themselves.
    Talent, dedication, work ethic off the ice, competitive drive
    Playing hard no matter how the chips fall should be part of it.
    I see a lot of feeling sorry for themselves in this team

  147. digger50 says:

    The difference between defensive units of these two teams is night and day.

  148. HT Joe says:

    godot10:
    Chiarelli and McLellan changed all the players,Literally all the players.

    No way… Chia still has to trade away Klefbom and RNH to do that….

  149. Pescador says:

    HT Joe,

    Yep,
    Fucking Donkeys

  150. JimmyV1965 says:

    I’ve never said this all season, but that was a pathetic effort. They didn’t show up to play. Very disappointing. We have all these big, tough players and they allow the Ducks to run McDavid. Kessler’s hit on McDavid’s knee should never ever be allowed to go without a response.

    Why don’t they call up some dmen from the minors? Gryba, Simpson or Lowe. They can’t possibly be worse than the guys we keep trotting out game after game. At least you’re sending a message.

  151. godot10 says:

    Krueger’s Oilers and Nelson’s Oilers (not counting MacT’s 5 games), neither with a training camp produced about the same points per game as this McLellan squad. Their rosters were horrid compared to this one.

  152. HT Joe says:

    russ99: Hall hasn’t been an Oiler for 589 days. Getting pretty sick of that.

    There’s plenty to gripe about other than continuing to beat the skeletal remains of that horse.

    In fairness, some people still claim that Chia is not a bad GM because his Bruins won the Stanley Cup, but that was 2,431 days ago…

  153. Pescador says:

    JD_Wry:
    Third game in four nights, in California, on Tabernac Saturday.

    WCGW?

    Here she come now say Al Montoya

  154. godot10 says:

    Nelson had a complete overhaul of his Grand Rapids squad this year. They were inconsistent till January but they are finally beginning to fire on all cylinders.

  155. Pescador says:

    Zelepukin:
    If you were a scout who had never watched the Oilers play before tonight and I told you that #58 is a healthy scratch almost every night, you’d make a strong push to acquire him.

    Every other night,
    You know, it’s just that the numbers didn’t work out.
    We need to get some extra games for guys like Letestu & Cammalleri
    This is the same reason why they struggle to develop prospects in Bakersfield
    Assholes

  156. Mr. D. says:

    McDavid is in 50% of the scoring. Nice Stat but where the fk is everyone else. Serious problem. The trade value on this team is bottom of league and GMs know it.
    This rut making a decent trade nearly impossible..the first thing a team looks at is points. They also use +- as a general indicator much to the disbelief of the number munched.

  157. Bob Arctor says:

    VOR,

    Is there a Vor blog with all the previous “Thinking About the Draft ” posts?

  158. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Spokane playing against Everett – lets see what Yamamoto can do against the nearly unbeatable Carter Hart.

    Yamamoto scores the OT winner.

  159. OriginalPouzar says:

    HT Joe:
    So that was regulation loss #26.

    The Oilers lost only 26 games in regulation for all of the 2016-2017 season, but managed that feat in only 53 games this season.

    The team is going to be a seller this trade deadline, but does ownership trust Chiarelli to make any more trades?Does Chia get gassed before the trade deadline?

    We wait…

    I wouldn’t hold your breath….

  160. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965:
    I’ve never said this all season, but that was a pathetic effort. They didn’t show up to play. Very disappointing.We have all these big, tough players and they allow the Ducks to run McDavid. Kessler’s hit on McDavid’s knee should never ever be allowed to go without a response.

    Why don’t they call up some dmen from the minors? Gryba, Simpson or Lowe. They can’t possibly be worse than the guys we keep trotting out game after game. At least you’re sending a message.

    The only player on the team that can be sent down without being exposed to waivers is Pakarinen.

    In order to add to the roster, they need to remove someone from the roster and, in all likelihood, risk losing that player for nothing.

  161. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar: The only player on the team that can be sent down without being exposed to waivers is Pakarinen.

    In order to add to the roster, they need to remove someone from the roster and, in all likelihood, risk losing that player for nothing.

    Nope. Start the deadline deals early, get prospects and picks in return.

  162. OriginalPouzar says:

    Easier said than done.

    From accounts the prices are high and the buyers aren’t ready to pay them yet. They very well be more willing to pay them as we get closer to the deadline.

    I’m also not so sure that any of our d-men will be going in a deadline deal – Auvitu is our only pending UFA d-man.

  163. frjohnk says:

    Looking at the bright side, at least the road for the Flames to make the playoffs becomes 2 points tougher.

    I know Oilers wont make the playoffs, now Im cheering for the Flames to not make it as well.

    And Go Jets

  164. Gret99zky says:

    Mr. D.:
    McDavid is in 50% of the scoring. Nice Stat but where the fk is everyone else. Serious problem. The trade value on this team is bottom of league and GMs know it.
    This rut making a decent trade nearly impossible..the first thing a team looks at is points. They also use +- as a general indicator much to the disbelief of the number munched.

    Fire the Capilano Mall?

  165. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Munny: Over a three year deal?That does seem like a stretch, actually.

    No, its actually not.

    He was offered the 3 year deal after July 1st.

    He got to July 1st thinking “I hope I get a one way contract”

    It is not a stretch to assume he would have accepted one prior to July 1st when only the Oilers could offer him a contract

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