G55 2017-18: Panthers at Oilers

The Edmonton Oilers return from California with yet another confirmation that this team, as constructed, isn’t good enough for the playoffs. As other teams gear up for the postseason, they will say goodbye to teammates at the deadline and some will say goodbye to their NHL careers at season’s end. Losing teams sewer NHL careers like hell won’t have it. On this blog, we’re moving on. Beginning today, we talk of summer.

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 SOUND AND VISION, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • February 2016: 2-3-0, goal differential -3 (4 points)
  • February 2017: 2-3-0, goal differential -4 (4 points)
  • February 2018: 1-3-1, goal differential -3 (3 points)
  • February 11, 2016: Edmonton 5, Toronto 2 (Source)
  • February 16, 2016: Edmonton 6, Philadelphia 3 (Source)

The Oilers wins are still important (GM & Coach won’t survive a long losing streak, although it may be over for one or both anyway) but we’re likely to see odd line and pairings combinations now as Edmonton showcases their tradeable talent.

AFTER 54, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 21-28-5, goal differential -32 (47 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 28-18-8, goal differential +15 (64 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 23-27-4, goal differential -26 (50 points)
  • February 9, 2016: New Jersey 2, Edmonton 1 (Source)
  • February 5, 2017: Edmonton 1, Montreal 0 (Source)

The list of needs is great, goaltending was a problem this year and special teams a train wreck. There’s some cap room and the team could move a center and a lefty blue.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • At home to: Colorado, Tampa Bay (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Los AngelesAnaheimSan Jose (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Florida (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vegas, Arizona, Colorado (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Boston, Colorado (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 0-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-3, 13 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-3-1, three points in five games

There are a couple of winnable games this week, Oilers often have trouble getting up for games against less than stellar opponents. It’s also true that some opponents will be pulling the chute on winning but we’re not there yet. Florida and Arizona should be wins this week.

POSSIBLE OFFSEASON ROSTER

Can’t make it work. You need six more forwards, one of whom is on a skill line and another on the third line. If the Oilers fill the depth holes internally, the following players could see the NHL in 2018-19 (all numbers via CapFriendly):

  • 3R Kailer Yamamoto, who would make $1.155 million including bonuses.
  • 4L Drake Caggiula, we’ll estimate his new deal at $1.2 million.
  • 5R Iiro Pakarinen, we’ll estimate his new deal at $750,000.
  • 4C Brad Malone, he’ll make $650,000 in 2018-19.
  • 5C Mitch Callahan, he’ll make $700,000 in 2018-19.

All-in, that means the Oilers will have less than $2 million for the No. 1 left-wing on the roster. Can’t be done. As we have discussed many times, that means one of Oscar Klefbom, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or the first-round pick would be heading out. The only two outs are grabbing another Patrick Maroon for Patrick Maroon or Mark Letestu at the deadline, winning the right to draft one of those insane skill wingers at No. 2 or No. 3 overall, winning the lottery outright (allowing a trade of LHD easily), or someone to release their no-movement clause (likely Sekera). Peter Chiarelli has boxed himself in based on what I can see, perhaps he has an out that is not known to us. Seems unlikely.

Best to bet IR, but Leivo would be an interesting bet for Edmonton. This club badly needs value contracts for next season and Leivo has done some fine work in a part-time role. There are less than 30 games left in the season, we should see Jesse Puljujarvi, Jujhar Khaira and Anton Slepyshev in every game. If Slepyshev doesn’t fit the coach, then maybe he’s the guy heading out for Leivo. I’ll tell you though, I think Slepyshev can play.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

A busy morning and a fluid show in terms of guests. All starts at 10, TSN1260, expect we’ll be adding a CFL guest to discuss free agency. Scheduled to appear:

  • Pierre Lebrun, TSN and The Athletic. Trade deadline rumors heating up!
  • Jason Gregor, TSN1260. CFL free agency, Oilers.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter.

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  1. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JD_Wry: His mates owe him more than 2 goals for, and he needs to have their backs.

    Yeah, I am a Talbot defender, but he has had a rough year. No denying it. I believe in a bounce back next year, though; however, not to 2016-2017 levels, but to average starter level.

  2. StixMalone says:

    Talbot sucks

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    Panthers keep answering right back every time the Oilers take the lead.

    Thought Russell was going to back right in on Talbot on that one.

  4. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Is a goalie on the shopping list for next year? I don’t care if the d backed in that is weak weak weak by talbot

  5. Surrey Oiler says:

    Talbot that was bloody awful…last 2 goals are him…FFS

  6. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Not sure what the Oilers’ D is doing there. Just backing off like that in total no-man’s land.

  7. Bank Shot says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Talbot probably wants that one back.

    I thought that was textbook poor teamwork and defensive play.

    Flordia didn’t have an odd man rush. Enough Oilers were back. There should have been almost no risk there.

    Instead they allowed a guy to walk into the slot for a shot from a spot that is basically a 50/50 chance of a goal.

  8. jp says:

    Wow, that was ugly by Talbot.

    Biggest question mark for 2018-19 imo.

  9. StixMalone says:

    I’m at the game and the fans are pissed ….

  10. Sighduck says:

    Why is Talbot still playing? We have a competent back up, Talbot has been missing his gamesense this whole season. Eerily similar to the season that got Dubnyk traded in my opinion.

  11. JD_Wry says:

    How about that 84/85 team though. Huh?

  12. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    This one again, Talbot probably could have had, but the prior goal was a lot worse. This was at least a rush with speed and a straight snipe. Glove hand exposed both times. But that other goal…yeah, Nurse and Khaira missed assignments but he got beaten short-side by being in the wrong position.

    Arguably the 1st goal, too, he was way out of position on the initial shot so was nowhere near the net when the bounce came off the end boards.

  13. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sighduck:
    Why is Talbot still playing? We have a competent back up, Talbot has been missing his gamesense this whole season. Eerily similar to the season that got Dubnyk traded in my opinion.

    The back-up played last game – not well.

  14. Sighduck says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    The hardest part is who knows what Talbot we will get next year, is this the anomaly or the new norm? Oilers have had such a bad run with goalies it feels like whatever they do in regards to that position will be the wrong one.

  15. OilClog says:

    Russell would fit right in with the swarm on that one, not much the goalie can do there.

  16. JD_Wry says:

    StixMalone:
    I’m at the game and the fans are pissed ….

    Well a good half of them paid a fraction of original price on Stub-Hub for their seats, so they are obligated to cheer.

  17. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Sighduck:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    The hardest part is who knows what Talbot we will get next year, is this the anomaly or the new norm? Oilers have had such a bad run with goalies it feels like whatever they do in regards to that position will be the wrong one.

    True. No way of knowing.

    But we have:
    1) Good backup in NYR
    2) Good starting stats when King Henrik was injured in NY (small sample size of about 30 games alert)
    3) Average starter year one in EDM
    4) Great starter year two in EDM
    5) Bottom of the league starter year three in EDM

    If I had to guess, I’d say he’s likely to rebound to average starter. I still think 2016-2017 will likely be his career best year, but .915~.918 should be a reasonable target next year.

  18. JD_Wry says:

    The Oilers are going to lose to a team with 5 first round picks.

  19. rickithebear says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Panthers keep answering right back every time the Oilers take the lead.

    Thought Russell was going to back right in on Talbot on that one.

    No he paused put his stick out to disrupt the puck.
    A lot of teams choose to attack russels partner side.
    Good thing his d partner was defending
    Oh wait!
    Klefbom. F…………!

  20. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Not sure why Remenda is showering praises on the Florida Panthers for their first rounders…

  21. StixMalone says:

    JD_Wry: Well a good half of them paid a fraction of original price on Stub-Hub for their seats, so they are obligated to cheer.

    That’s all tickets are worth to this….

  22. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Quinn and Remenda just adore Lucic, don’t they. Another play dies on his stick and they talk about his leadership on and off the ice–leading them to a lottery pick! But it’s okay, he keeps his chin up and he just really wanted a goal there. It’s not his fault.

    Don’t know how everyone puts up with this tandem all year calling the games.

    Watch Lucic score tonight.

  23. rickithebear says:

    OilClog:
    Russell would fit right in with the swarm on that one, not much the goalie can do there.

    You clearly did not remember the Swarm under Eakins.
    The d is asked to pressure down and abandon the free path to HD area.

    Here’s what I observed one month into the season.
    Klefbom and nurse attacking and pressuring down low.
    “TMac, Klefbom, and Nurse are running the swarm”
    This is going to be a long season!

  24. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Sure, was wondering who would come in to chirp. Drai is having a very good game. Doesn’t mean he still can’t learn something from Barkov’s defensive game.

    Of course he can. Barkov is an excellent player in his way. Drai is too.

  25. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: Of course he can. Barkov is an excellent player in his way. Drai is too.

    Yep. I said Drai is the better passer (playmaker). Both excellent, big centres I think are on a similar tier and will be stars in this League for years.

  26. flyfish1168 says:

    This is an interesting stat and I wonder why we don’t have a PP yet.

    https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-stats?season=2017&category=MISCELLANEOUS&sort=4&time=0&team=1

  27. OilClog says:

    rickithebear: You clearly did not remember the Swarm under Eakins.
    The d is asked to pressure down and abandon the free path to HD area.

    Here’s what I observed one month into the season.
    Klefbom and nurse attacking and pressuring down low.
    “TMac, Klefbom, and Nurse are running the swarm”
    This is going to be a long season!

    I spent three years after the swarm abusing my brain with FPS’s on Xbox while drowning in sweet whiskey to permanently black out most of what the swarm was

    Still wake up from time to time in cold sweats murmurming dubnyk’s name about what a poor bastard he is.. something about a damn you St. Eakins.

  28. JD_Wry says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Quinn and Remenda just adore Lucic

    More than Rustle?

  29. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    They’re both (Russell and Lucic) not bad players. They just both have significant flaws and are paid, in my estimation, about double what they are worth. Russell at $2M on the bottom pairing would be just fine, and 40-50pts with a little bit of size and leadership on 2LW would be worth $3M~$4m or so. But we have two such players in Maroon and Lucic filling that role.

  30. Lowetide says:

    After two

    3-3 tie (2-2 in that period)
    shots 27-24 Florida (14-13 that period favoring the Panthers)
    Corsi 41-36 Florida (18-17 Edmonton in the second)

  31. JimmyV1965 says:

    JD_Wry:
    How about that 84/85 team though. Huh?

    Lol. I peed my pants a bit there. Good one.

  32. rickithebear says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): True. No way of knowing.

    But we have:
    1) Good backup in NYR
    2) Good starting stats when King Henrik was injured in NY (small sample size of about 30 games alert)
    3) Average starter year one in EDM
    4) Great starter year two in EDM
    5) Bottom of the league starter year three in EDM

    If I had to guess, I’d say he’s likely to rebound to average starter. I still think 2016-2017 will likely be his career best year, but .915~.918 should be a reasonable target next year.

    OH, you looked at the cumulative shot density faced for the season divided by GA.
    Compared it to the avg shot density graph based on 72/GA

    You have to break it down by Dpair established mean versus Save% of goalie.

    Last year Hamilton – Gio established a .902 save% mean.
    Elliot had a .939 save% .037 better than the mean.
    Elliot would often give up one weak goal.
    A lot of idiots like boomer at Sportsnet 960 would let that one play define the performance.
    It is the sum of the whole.

    My favourite example is Elliot facing a shot density of 142 in a game. He had what MSM would define as 2 weak GA. He gave up 4 GA.
    142/4 compared to the avg (72/ga) graph interpolates to a 2.03 ga performance.

    Until Larson showed up we were a team that was bottom 3 13.5 to 14 HD/60 since Souray left.

  33. JimmyV1965 says:

    Sighduck:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    The hardest part is who knows what Talbot we will get next year, is this the anomaly or the new norm? Oilers have had such a bad run with goalies it feels like whatever they do in regards to that position will be the wrong one.

    What do you do with Talbot next year? I don’t think you can go out and get another starter. But what if he poops the bed again next year? Then you have no starter. That’s going to be a HUGE challenge for the GM. One thing is for sure, Talbot has cost himself an extension over the summer.

  34. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: What do you do with Talbot next year? I don’t think you can go out and get another starter. But what if he poops the bed again next year? Then you have no starter. That’s going to be a HUGE challenge for the GM. One thing is for sure, Talbot has cost himself an extension over the summer.

    I’d be inclined to try and buy low on an extension. Add 2 years at the same AAV and show you still have faith he will bounce back.

  35. OriginalPouzar says:

    PK looking good.

  36. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Klef having a rough game. Caught flat-footed.

  37. russ99 says:

    That’s what holding the line gets you.

  38. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    By all means bring back the same special teams coaches next year, it’s bound to work out eventually.

  39. russ99 says:

    The Oilers problem in the defensive zone is less individual players, it’s that we don’t play as a unit.

  40. OilClog says:

    klef was asleep on that one

  41. flyfish1168 says:

    The Oilers will not get a PP chance tonight

  42. russ99 says:

    Someone has to step up when Connor is taken down so hard.

  43. OilClog says:

    I don’t want to see Strome on Mcdavids wing in the third n down by a goal.

  44. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Guareenteed goal that’s all she wrote

  45. thehop says:

    russ99,

    It was a good clean play by Yandle.

  46. OilClog says:

    FFS! Jesse you were almost there! Can’t have nice things

  47. OriginalPouzar says:

    PK looking good!

  48. OilClog says:

    13 and 55 on the same PK unit. Wow

  49. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    3rd goal glove side, 2nd one of those that was short side. You may not stop all, but you need to stop at least one of those, Cam.

  50. Extend Russell says:

    Talbot is an NHL starting goaltender?
    If you have to ask the question ….

  51. Surrey Oiler says:

    FFS Talbot…that’s the 3rd one of the game you should have saved…even Drew is calling you out

  52. StixMalone says:

    Gawd this team suck! Good thing tickets were free. Trade deadline can’t come fast enough…

  53. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Who was saying the Oilers should win this game? Ha ha. There is no “should win” with this team (we lost to Buffalo twice, remember)

  54. AntsOfTheSky says:

    flyfish1168:
    The Oilers will not get a PP chance tonight

    Nah, they’ll get a call with 20 seconds left in the 3rd when it’s too late to really matter. It’s an Oilers tradition

  55. Extend Russell says:

    I hate Monday’s

  56. OilClog says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    3rd goal glove side, 2nd one of those that was short side. You may not stop all, but you need to stop at least one of those, Cam.

    I blame whichever twin is nicknamed glovehand, stealing all blockers food.

  57. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Yup goal tending is now a major off season concern for the team

  58. Lowetide says:

    Nice goal by Slepyshev, coming off the LW again.

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice goal by Slep.

  60. thehop says:

    My man!!!

    #FreeishSlepy

  61. Durag says:

    Wow am I glad I’m in Thailand and just checking the scores on this recent mess. Has Talbot really been that bad? Is it worth bringing up Brossoit and giving him 20 starts down the home stretch?

    Also, how good is Zadina gonna look with Connor and Jesse? (Just kidding, I know McClellan is going to run Lucic-Connor-Drai to start next year)

  62. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Nice goal by Slep.

    Yup. I think there is a player there if the coaches would just give him rope to play and learn. Oilers need to unlock Slepy and Pulju for next year’s sake.

  63. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): I’d be inclined to try and buy low on an extension. Add 2 years at the same AAV and show you still have faith he will bounce back.

    That’s a huge risk for the GM. if he stinks again next year, the GM looks real bad. I don’t envy the GM for the decision he has to make.

  64. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: That’s a huge risk for the GM. if he stinks again next year, the GM looks real bad. I don’t envy the GM for that’s decision he has to make.

    Yup, for a GM that has made many risky bets already that have not panned out, it could be a killer. For a new GM, it might be an astute “buy-low” move.

  65. Sighduck says:

    Slepy making it hard for Chia to want to trade him! What were goals 4 and 5 against like?

  66. thehop says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Yup. I think there is a player there if the coaches would just give him rope to play and learn. Oilers need to unlock Slepy and Pulju for next year’s sake.

    He’s gotta be in the top nine, as one of the value contracts.
    All he needed/needs in a leash long enough to fire that wicked shot of the off wing.

  67. Durag says:

    Sighduck,

    He really should just shave those damn sideburns

  68. russ99 says:

    Good lord.

  69. russ99 says:

    Pull him, he’s done.

  70. StixMalone says:

    6 goals and he’s still in net?

  71. Sighduck says:

    Another penalty shot?!?!?

  72. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Cam Talbot is a broken goaler right now

  73. OilClog says:

    Mcdavid wouldnt put Slepy’s shot or speed to use at all

    Oilers are clearly enemy #1 to the refs assoc.

  74. Melvis says:

    LMAO

    #wordless

  75. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OilClog: I blame whichever twin is nicknamed glovehand, stealing all blockers food.

    And blocker came calling.

  76. Sighduck says:

    Durag,

    Talbot growing a bit of hair in front of the ears this game?

  77. StixMalone says:

    Sorry but I can’t support this chaos any more. This team is terrible. Fans are riled up ,heads should roll

  78. BONE207 says:

    Hi Gang…playing this last goal wins kind of game is fun until you decide not to shoot more than the other team.

  79. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Only one game, but Strome is not looking like he can play with McDavid so far.

  80. JD_Wry says:

    Extend Russell: If you have to ask the question…

    …you should have been fired in 2015, but your boss likes you.

  81. BONE207 says:

    OilClog:
    Mcdavid wouldnt put Slepy’s shot or speed to use at all

    Oilers are clearly enemy #1 to the refs assoc.

    No kidding. Even the over the glass penalties are called back. We need a new set of hockey gords

  82. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    StixMalone:
    Sorry but I can’t support this chaos any more. This team is terrible. Fans are riled up ,heads should roll

    Heads should have rolled three months ago if the organization was serious about winning…

  83. thehop says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    That spot should be Pulijarvi’s for the remainder of the season.

    All they are doing is pumping his stats for a trade at the deadline… Which is smart.

    Or they are fucking themselves yet again as his numbers are sure to inflate if he stays there for any period of time.

  84. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Slepy and Kass finding some chemistry. Get them a better C that can skate. Khaira?

    Deadline can’t come soon enough so at least we can say goodbye to Letestu. Coach loves him too much.

  85. BONE207 says:

    I do like the Slep Kass Khaira line. Good things from them all around.

  86. D says:

    Not to sound too macabre, but having this team lose, lose big, and lose a lot between now and the end of the season would prevent the Oilers’ “management” from spewing any nonsense that this is just a one-off.

  87. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    I’m so grateful that I get to watch Connor McDavid play hockey for the Oilers

  88. Sighduck says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I still like the idea of Slepy with Leon, I know Lucic was a big part of that line in the playoffs but I think Kassian can be more effective with his speed.

    Post deadline top 6:

    Lucic-McD-Poolparty
    Slepy-Leon-Kass

  89. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great play by Maroon.

  90. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Another good effort from Maroon. He has come to life and snapped out of his slump tonight.

  91. rickithebear says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    They’re both (Russell and Lucic) not bad players. They just both have significant flaws and are paid, in my estimation, about double what they are worth. Russell at $2M on the bottom pairing would be just fine, and 40-50pts with a little bit of size and leadership on 2LW would be worth $3M~$4m or so. But we have two such players in Maroon and Lucic filling that role.

    When you empirically trend a dmen like Russell he is the best o% chance dmen in the game.
    But these d need defensively sound HD d partners.

  92. Sighduck says:

    This game has been entertaining at the very least!

  93. OilClog says:

    Camm has played over 19mins tonight lol

  94. Sighduck says:

    Was that a Bronx cheer for Talbot?

  95. thehop says:

    Sighduck:
    This game has been entertaining at the very least!

    Agreed.

  96. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    rickithebear: When you empirically trend a dmen like Russell he is the best o% chance dmen in the game.
    But these d need defensively sound HD d partners.

    No doubt his partner Klefbom is struggling.

  97. russ99 says:

    Come on, what a joke. Pay the fine McLellan.

  98. OmJo says:

    Will Slepyshev finally get a shot in the top 6 for more than a shift?

  99. OilClog says:

    How is that chop not.a penalty, something is foul.

  100. StixMalone says:

    We could’ve won with a goaltender….

  101. BONE207 says:

    I was starting to fear all shots against Talbot. They all seem to go in in my minds eye. Must be lack of sleep. For me or Cam though?

  102. OmJo says:

    Too bad the jackass Trocheck got a hat trick…

  103. Sighduck says:

    The Oilers with the goalie pulled are not effective enough

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    Some good chances to tie it up but no dice.

    Goaltending and officiating were not good on this night.

    Oh well, on on to Thursday and a game against a team whose number we have.

  105. flyfish1168 says:

    Huge discrepancies in penalties called tonight and we can’t even get one slashing call on Connor. NHL needs and the refs need to take a hard look at what is a penalty and what is fair. One of the most penalized team goes all game without a call. pathetic reffing

  106. Sighduck says:

    McDavid tied for second in scoring, Kucherov might be in trouble!

  107. Rondo says:

    Lucic isn’t even a 3rd liner. He is too slow.

  108. OriginalPouzar says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Slepy and Kass finding some chemistry. Get them a better C that can skate. Khaira?

    Deadline can’t come soon enough so at least we can say goodbye to Letestu. Coach loves him too much.

    Letestu has had his ice cut materially over the last month – off PP completely, reduced role on PK and even healthy scratched a few times.

  109. JimmyV1965 says:

    Silver lining. One less team we have to worry about finishing ahead of us in the lottery sweepstakes.

  110. russ99 says:

    Talbot no doublt would like to have a few of those back, but way too many defensive zone breakdowns from all 5 skaters on the ice.

    Change the system, Todd, it doesn’t work.

  111. Sighduck says:

    Obviously a really disappointing season, but games like this one are so thoroughly enjoyable to watch. Obvious flaws but the Oilers this season have provided us with some really entertaining games! I would rather have a season like this out of the playoffs than squeak in playing Arizona hockey.

  112. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Some good chances to tie it up but no dice.

    Goaltending and officiating were not good on this night.

    Oh well, on on to Thursday and a game against a team whose number we have.

    Add to that the special teams are still struggling. With no reversion to the meat does that get the coaches fired this summer?

    The transition from D to forwards is also equally galling. There’s no system anymore except hand it to Drai or McDavid and let them rush it up. (Or Nurse every once in a while)

  113. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar: Letestu has had his ice cut materially over the last month – off PP completely, reduced role on PK and even healthy scratched a few times.

    Good points. It took the coach a long time to accept, but I get that he probably wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt to recover his game.

  114. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Sighduck:
    Obviously a really disappointing season, but games like this one are so thoroughly enjoyable to watch. Obvious flaws but the Oilers this season have provided us with some really entertaining games! I would rather have a season like this out of the playoffs than squeak in playing Arizona hockey.

    We call it ELPH!

  115. Rondo says:

    Talbot said playoffs.

  116. OriginalPouzar says:

    The Oilers have the worst transition game I’ve seen in a decade.

  117. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I think this has been an understated point on the season.

    I know Klef is a young dman but whether it’s injury or something else this year from him has been a titanic disappointment.

    And if it is an injury that’s a story in and of itself. He’s had one healthy season since he turned 18 I believe. That’s a bad bad trend.

    And I suppose that’s why in the end this season has been such a gut punch.

    Lots of folks are enjoying the “I told you so,” moment and there’s no reason to take that away from them becaus well they’re right.

    But with all the bets coming into this season I sure as hell didn’t expect

    1) Talbot to fall off a cliff

    2) Klefbom to take a giant leap backwards

    3) Adam Larsson to miss significant amounts of time

    4) The PK to run 20% worse than historically bad at home

    5) Everyone not named McDavid to struggle out of the gate.

    LT said it best the other morning when he mentioned that even the most pessimistic among us didn’t see this level of bad coming.

    On the plus side I haven’t even had to defend my team choice this year. Everyone I know who cheers for other teams is just as dumbfounded as I am that they are where they are.

    Oh well, there are other things to get excited about

    Tiger Woods is playing golf again.

    The Yankees have Judge and Stanton and so far Canada is doing well at the Olympics

    #alwayspositives

  118. Gret99zky says:

    In the movie, McDavid grows tired of this bullshit league, with its asshole referees, and goes on to become the most prolific scorer in the KHL.

  119. Georges says:

    flyfish1168:
    This is an interesting stat and I wonder why we don’t have a PP yet.

    https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/team-stats?season=2017&category=MISCELLANEOUS&sort=4&time=0&team=1

    This IS interesting…

  120. BONE207 says:

    russ99</strong

    Change the system, Todd, it doesn’t work.

    Well if we want a new coach & a really good draft pick…

  121. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Oesterle update. Off of the Keith pairing now, less than 17 minutes tonight, managed to still be -4.

    I haven’t been a believer in the sustainability of his top pairing play for Chicago, so wanted to pass this update along (I expected the experiment to have ended sooner)–I think he is a serviceable bottom pair guy, never thought he would be long-term top pair.

  122. Rondo says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    Who on the Oilers got better this Year?

  123. exoilinxs says:

    Someone gets fired now right? Anyone?

  124. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Rondo:
    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    Who on the Oilers got better this Year?

    Nurse.
    Nuge before he was hurt.
    Khaira.

    That’s about it.

  125. JD_Wry says:

    exoilinxs:
    Someone gets fired now right? Anyone?

    President of Social Media?

  126. RonnieB says:

    Any thoughts on a Talbot for Darling trade ? A change of scenery chance for both men ?

  127. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    As someone who’s a sucker for punishment, I listen to the Oilers broadcast whenever I watch games and it’s been going on for a month now but both Quinn and Remenda have been harping on the transition element in Defense of the coach. I.E “coach McLellan has been saying for quite a while now that the men need to move the puck quickly to the forwards.”

    Now he could be blowing smoke but I can’t for the life of me believe that there is any “system” at play.

    I think the regression from all dman not named Nurse, combined with long time absences by Larsson, Sekera is what’s a fault more than any system.

    Also don’t get Sekera to waive his NMC this summer that would be a bad idea me thinks. I know memories are short but he was very affectionately known as “the turd polisher” less than 12 months ago and my goodness I’d kill for some of last years stability on the blue line right about now

  128. rickithebear says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Slepy and Kass finding some chemistry. Get them a better C that can skate. Khaira?

    Deadline can’t come soon enough so at least we can say goodbye to Letestu. Coach loves him too much.

    Can we say good bye to the dmen who think they are forwards and have no clue what the HD area is.
    I am sure there are GM,s who think that offence is something to get.

  129. JD_Wry says:

    rickithebear,

    Bye Bobby, bye Paul.

  130. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Add to that the special teams are still struggling. With no reversion to the meat does that get the coaches fired this summer?

    The transition from D to forwards is also equally galling. There’s no system anymore except hand it to Drai or McDavid and let them rush it up. (Or Nurse every once in a while)

    My memory might be failing, but I’m sure Talbot is the goat on two off those penalty kill goals.

  131. russ99 says:

    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    As someone who’s a sucker for punishment, I listen to the Oilers broadcast whenever I watch games and it’s been going on for a month now but both Quinn and Remenda have been harping on the transition element in Defense of the coach. I.E “coach McLellan has been saying for quite a while now that the men need to move the puck quickly to the forwards.”

    Now he could be blowing smoke but I can’t for the life of me believe that there is any “system” at play.

    I think the regression from all dman not named Nurse, combined with long time absences by Larsson, Sekera is what’s a fault more than any system.

    Also don’t get Sekera to waive his NMC this summer that would be a bad idea me thinks. I know memories are short but he was very affectionately known as “the turd polisher” less than 12 months ago and my goodness I’d kill for some of last years stability on the blue line right about now

    Forwards are just as much to blame. Dropping coverage and cherrypicking to get back up. If passing lanes were open, the d would pass sooner, and they’re gunshy with all the turnovers on the breakout.

  132. BONE207 says:

    JD_Wry: President of Social Media?

    OEG party organizer?

  133. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Nurse.
    Nuge before he was hurt.
    Khaira.

    That’s about it.

    Agreed but for me it’s the fact that two (or three) very key pieces have been materially worse this year. Ones that, at this point in their careers, you wouldn’t have made an educated guess to get worse.

    1) Talbot
    2) Klef
    3) Drai (but ONLY at the beginning! He wasn’t good to start and that contributed to the teams poor start. He is flying now and I love/appreciate watching him play!)
    4) Larsson (to an extent. His partners were hot garbage to start the year, sans Nurse, but he lacked consistency as well.)

    Now I understand the anger about the coach and the GM but both thought they knew what they had in those four pieces and to start the year (and right now with a couple of them) they all underperformed. That’s tough for a team to deal with.

  134. GMB3 says:

    Sorry OP, but #freesleppy

    Put that man at his natural position, his off wing, with a skill center.

    #throughlymediocrecoach

  135. GMB3 says:

    russ99: Forwards are just as much to blame. Dropping coverage and cherrypicking to get back up. If passing lanes were open, the d would pass sooner, and they’re gunshy with all the turnovers on the breakout.

    Russ for head coach.

  136. russ99 says:

    RonnieB:
    Any thoughts on a Talbot for Darling trade ? A change of scenery chance for both men ?

    Goalies are voodoo. Talbot could just as well turn things around here next season, and he’s a proven starter, Darling isn’t.

  137. striatic says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): True. No way of knowing.

    But we have:
    1) Good backup in NYR
    2) Good starting stats when King Henrik was injured in NY (small sample size of about 30 games alert)
    3) Average starter year one in EDM
    4) Great starter year two in EDM
    5) Bottom of the league starter year three in EDM

    If I had to guess, I’d say he’s likely to rebound to average starter. I still think 2016-2017 will likely be his career best year, but .915~.918 should be a reasonable target next year.

    Unless there is something systemically flawed with the Oiler’s goaltender development process, in which case Talbot will continue to be a bottom of the league until he is traded somewhere else with a better goaltender development system.

  138. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The Oilers have the worst transition game I’ve seen in a decade.

    It’s frickin awful. The dmen have forgot how to pass the puck. That one play where all the forwards were waiting for Russell at the offensive blueline was bizarre.

  139. russ99 says:

    GMB3: Russ for head coach.

    Lol.

    But let’s get real, we’re expecting perfection from our defensemen, and shifting the blame away from anyone with offensive talent.

    The same old Oilers Hockey story. Tell me the one about Tom Poti again.

    Or another post tomorrow about how Klefbom and Benning are good because of Corsi.

  140. JimmyV1965 says:

    Rondo:
    SayItAin’tSo, Gretz, SayItAin’tSo!,

    Who on the Oilers got better this Year?

    Nurse. That’s all I’ve got.

  141. JimmyV1965 says:

    RonnieB:
    Any thoughts on a Talbot for Darling trade ? A change of scenery chance for both men ?

    That’s interesting.

  142. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    russ99,

    Yup agreed, both share blame.

    But the “Russel Reset” and the d to d to d to d pass are team wide tactics and I understand why. Early in the season every turnover seemed to end up in the back of the Oilers net. You don’t forget that when you’re having a crappy season so you make the “safe” play instead.

    What was supposed to be a safety valve now becomes your go to.

    We all watch the games, we know it, the commentators know it and other teams know it.

    And that’s another of the more frustrating aspects of this season. When you watch games from last year the Dmen were nowhere near this hesitant.

    Its largely the same group, but they’re a bit gun-shy (shellshocked?) this year and the transition game has suffered immensely.

    Some have taken the coaches to task for this. Personally I put it on execution (both forward and dman).

  143. Bank Shot says:

    russ99: Forwards are just as much to blame. Dropping coverage and cherrypicking to get back up. If passing lanes were open, the d would pass sooner, and they’re gunshy with all the turnovers on the breakout.

    Oilers forwards aren’t great defensively, but they are running a legit bad D-core right now.

    Davidson was on waivers this year.
    Auvitu is MAB’s slow cousin.
    Benning has been showing he’s a 6-7th guy on the NHL depth chart all season.
    Russell is a 4th-5th guy. Should be the fourth best guy in your D-core at best.
    Nurse is equal parts good and bad. Has the tools, but also has a lot of chaos in his game. Shouldn’t be top four on a contending team.
    Klefbom has looked pretty average at best the whole season.

    Where are the first pairing guys? Don’t have them.
    3-4 bottom paring guys and 3 borderline top four guys doesn’t cut it at the NHL level.

    Oilers have had bad D for a decade now. When does the cavalry come? There aren’t any blue chippers on the way.

  144. JimmyV1965 says:

    russ99: Forwards are just as much to blame. Dropping coverage and cherrypicking to get back up. If passing lanes were open, the d would pass sooner, and they’re gunshy with all the turnovers on the breakout.

    I do think the forwards have to take some ownership of this, but the dmen are by far the biggest culprits. Davey on the opening shift of the game missed three consecutive passes. The Panthers finally ended up with the puck. The dmen passes are out by 15 feet sometimes.

    As I mentioned previously, I was blown away when we had three forwards all waiting at the offensive blueline for Russel to make a play with the puck. He had zero pressure because every single Panther was in the defensive zone. Yet he’s fumbling his way up to the blueline with no idea what to do.

  145. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    The book on the Oilers’ breakout is out. No need to forecheck the D deep, just cut off all passing lanes to the forwards by hanging back. Watch the D tentatively move forward then move it back, pounce if they try to go around the boards, otherwise force them to try a 70 foot pass.

  146. striatic says:

    Bank Shot: Oilers have had bad D for a decade now. When does the cavalry come? There aren’t any blue chippers on the way.

    This year’s draft, presumably, but unless they’re picking first the developmental timelines are going to be long.

  147. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Again, watch the Tampa breakouts. Yeah they played poorly in Edmonton, but each guy is hit in stride with short passes, then the next guy goes full flight to provide a passing outlet.

  148. StixMalone says:

    This year is gone. God Chia get McDavid some help. And a right shot powerplay quarterback and after tonight a coach that isn’t afraid to pull a goalie….

  149. JimmyV1965 says:

    JP and Schleppy each played 9 min tonight. Cammy played 19.

  150. Gret99zky says:

    Lowetide: All-in, that means the Oilers will have less than $2 million for the No. 1 left-wing on the roster. Can’t be done. As we have discussed many times, that means one of Oscar Klefbom, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins or the first-round pick would be heading out. The only two outs are grabbing another Patrick Maroon for Patrick Maroon or Mark Letestu at the deadline, winning the right to draft one of those insane skill wingers at No. 2 or No. 3 overall, winning the lottery outright (allowing a trade of LHD easily), or someone to release their no-movement clause (likely Sekera). Peter Chiarelli has boxed himself in based on what I can see, perhaps he has an out that is not known to us. Seems unlikely.

    Can you picture what will be?
    So limitless and free.
    Desperately in need…of some…stranger’s hand,
    In a…desperate land.

  151. HT Joe says:

    Bank Shot: Oilers have had bad D for a decade now. When does the cavalry come? There aren’t any blue chippers on the way.

    Well, Chia already traded away Hall and Barzal+ to shore up the blueline… what more do you want?

    *EDIT* and the previous regime also used the #19 overall in 2011, and #7 overall in 2013.

    Using those 4 assets should have yielded us a pretty good D-corps in 2018, no?

  152. Bank Shot says:

    HT Joe: Well, Chia already traded away Hall and Barzal+ to shore up the blueline… what more do you want?

    Well Larsson is pretty good. He’s the best defender on this team by a fair margin. Shame there’s no offense there.

    Wish they had a guy that was all offence and hustle. A guy like that could do great things with McDavid.

  153. GMB3 says:

    russ99: Lol.

    But let’s get real, we’re expecting perfection from our defensemen, and shifting the blame away from anyone with offensive talent.

    The same old Oilers Hockey story. Tell me the one about Tom Poti again.

    Or another post tomorrow about how Klefbom and Benning are good because of Corsi.

    Did a forward on your Illinois high school hockey team steal your girlfriend or something..

    I agree, but I think this is a team that lost the plot. There’s plenty of blame to go around everywhere. Klefbom was our best dman by a mile last year regardless of Corsi. Our secondary scoring is woeful yet you just focus on how we need guys like Russell… 😞 Bizzaro world

  154. Pescador says:

    JD_Wry:
    rickithebear,

    Bye Bobby, bye Paul.

    Paul?

  155. HT Joe says:

    Bank Shot: Well Larsson is pretty good. He’s the best defender on this team by a fair margin. Shame there’s no offense there.

    Wish they had a guy that was all offence and hustle. A guy like that could do great things with McDavid.

    “Pretty good”. That’s the problem though… the Oilers have used significant assets from the last 7 years to shore up the blue line, and there still is nobody on the blue line who is substantially above average.

    Nurse is trending up this year, but not a sure thing. With the assets spent, the Oilers should not have such a terrible collective defence.

  156. Pescador says:

    GMB3,

    + don’t knock the content,
    Ever

  157. Das Zuke says:

    I had the game on PVR …best news was that I was able to fast forward this game and somewhat limit the misery …the last two games were very winable for the Oilers and I hate to point fingers but our goaltending tandem at present has to be the worst in the league . Plus I thought the muggings on McDavid were only allowed in the playoffs but the refs are casting a blind eye to many infractions … as a season ticket holder I have fewer and fewer buddies willing to accompany me to Oiler games as they do not wish to be punishe for 3 hours… McDavid is the only reason that I still attend … as previous bloggers mentioned no one expected such a poor performance from the Oil this year

  158. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Das Zuke,

    McDavid is the chief reason I tune in from Japan. Sometimes it’s Draisaitl like he has been playing of late. I want to see more of Slepy and Puljujarvi in a lost season. But it’s getting harder and harder to deal with 12 years – 1 of the broken record–only now, we’ve traded away quite a bit of hope and lowered our potential ceiling.

    And we are up against the cap. How galling is that.

  159. Gayfish says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Das Zuke,

    McDavid is the chief reason I tune in from Japan. Sometimes it’s Draisaitl like he has been playing of late. I want to see more of Slepy and Puljujarvi in a lost season. But it’s getting harder and harder to deal with 12 years – 1 of the broken record–only now, we’ve traded away quite a bit of hope and lowered our potential ceiling.

    And we are up against the cap. How galling is that.

    It’s overwhelming. I feel like it’s before the 2012 draft. Team with some good things, but years away from competing.

  160. godot10 says:

    Lowetide:
    I’ve never understood ‘social justice warriors’ as a putdown. It’s a good thing to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. The world is weird place now.

    They are not fighting for people who cannot fight for themselves. So-called “social justice warriors” are cultural marxists (or their stooges) fighting for the global elites. i.e. “all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others). Their goal is neofeudal society.

  161. Pescador says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Orr, Coffey

    DOH,
    nother toe stub

  162. Mike Wazowski says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):

    Arguably the 1st goal, too, he was way out of position on the initial shot so was nowhere near the net when the bounce came off the end boards.

    A goalie has to be able to challenge the shooter and trust that his skaters will pick up the back door stuff. The first goal is not on Cam.

  163. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Mike Wazowski: A goalie has to be able to challenge the shooter and trust that his skaters will pick up the back door stuff. The first goal is not on Cam.

    Hey, I’m a Talbot defender but he did put himself way out of position on that one. He does that on occasion, and I am not talking about just challenging the shooter.

    Agreed the skaters were awful defensively as a group today.

  164. godot10 says:

    D:
    Not to sound too macabre, but having this team lose, lose big, and lose a lot between now and the end of the season would prevent the Oilers’ “management” from spewing any nonsense that this is just a one-off.

    #DementorvilleRevisited

  165. Munny says:

    Lowetide:
    I’ve never understood ‘social justice warriors’ as a putdown. It’s a good thing to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. The world is weird place now.

    It’s an updated version of early 20th century “useful idiots”. If you know the history of that older phrase, you will get why SJW is a pejorative.

  166. Gayfish says:

    Lowetide: I’ve never understood ‘social justice warriors’ as a putdown. It’s a good thing to fight for those who cannot fight for themselves. The world is weird place now.

    That’s how they get ya. Confusing words to make them sound better. “Affordable care act”, “Common Sense gun reform”, “Progressive”,”Patriot Act”, all slogans to tie an emotion to a policy without saying anything about the policy. That’s politics though.

  167. Mike Wazowski says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    Not buying it. I re-watched the highlight and he’s square to the shooter. Screen sets up in front of him and some contact is made as he gets up when the shot goes wide and banks off the boards to Ekblad on the far side. Cam can’t find the puck because of the screen and weird bounce. I can’t see much he should have changed.

    Watching the game on PVR right now. Second and third goals are on Cam. The fourth (PP breakaway) and fifth (screened PP goal) are on the team in front of him in my mind.

    I really don’t understand this tendency on the PK to leave the goalie on his own to deal with the screen in front. If the goalie spends too much time shifting around the screen they can get their weight loaded over the wrong leg making it difficult to react.

  168. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Mike Wazowski:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    Not buying it. I re-watched the highlight and he’s square to the shooter.Screen sets up in front of him and some contact is made as he gets up when the shot goes wide and banks off the boards to Ekblad on the far side.Cam can’t find the puck because of the screen and weird bounce.I can’t see much he should have changed.

    Watching the game on PVR right now.Second and third goals are on Cam. The fourth (PP breakaway) and fifth (screened PP goal) are on the team in front of him in my mind.

    I really don’t understand this tendency on the PK to leave the goalie on his own to deal with the screen in front.If the goalie spends too much time shifting around the screen they can get their weight loaded over the wrong leg making it difficult to react.

    Okay, okay. I did not go back and break it down via replay so you don’t have to buy what I am saying.

    He had at least 2 he wishes he had back, probably 3 and then this one. His team left him out to dry time and time again, though, so it’s definitely not all on him. In fact, I was defending him several times in this thread. That said, he did not have his best game, and that’s been the case a little too often this year.

  169. Mike Wazowski says:

    Sixth goal is a penalty shot goal. Sure you would love to have your goalie come up with the big save but again, in my mind, not a poor goal by Talbot.

    A bunch of guys are quoting save percentage to point out Cam’s performance but quality of chances against were pretty high. Good on Captain Connor standing up and saying the team needed to play better in front of their goalie.

  170. Mike Wazowski says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Okay, okay. I did not go back and break it down via replay so you don’t have to buy what I am saying.

    He had at least 2 he wishes he had back, probably 3 and then this one. His team left him out to dry time and time again, though, so it’s definitely not all on him. In fact, I was defending him several times in this thread. That said, he did not have his best game, and that’s been the case a little too often this year.

    Not necessarily “calling you out” on this. Mostly frustrated by the knucklehead comments I’ve seen stating Cam is a “terrible” goalie and has never been or will ever be a starting goalie.

  171. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Mike Wazowski: Not necessarily “calling you out” on this. Mostly frustrated by the knucklehead comments I’ve seen stating Cam is a “terrible” goalie and has never been or will ever be a starting goalie.

    If the Oilers cut Talbot loose, I see a Dubnyk-style rebound on another team. He deserves another shot to start in 2018-2019, imo.

  172. Mike Wazowski says:

    Sleppy had probably his best game as an Oiler. Unfortunately, he hasn’t shown enough consistency on the ice to be warranted a spot in the top 6. I hope this is the start of him putting it together!

    NHL officiating was terrible tonight.

  173. Mike Wazowski says:

    I can’t and don’t want to imagine what Larsson is going through right now. He is a valuable member of this team but it may be next season before he can return to form.

    His return, a healthy Sekera and Klef should provide a huge boost to this team next season if they can return to form.

    Having THE elite center in the NHL and a very good young center in Drai likely mean the team will never have elite defencemen and wingers. Crosby’s wingers have been inexpensive and slightly inexperienced for a lot of his career. Most of them not what I’d consider “elite”. Just value contracts.

  174. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Mike Wazowski:
    I can’t and don’t want to imagine what Larsson is going through right now.He is a valuable member of this team but it may be next season before he can return to form.

    His return, a healthy Sekera and Klef should provide a huge boost to this team next season if they can return to form.

    Having THE elite center in the NHL and a very good young center in Drai likely mean the team will never have elite defencemen and wingers.Crosby’s wingers have been inexpensive and slightly inexperienced for a lot of his career.Most of them not what I’d consider “elite”. Just value contracts.

    This is a good point. We should remember that the Penguins went quite a long time between Cups. It looked for a while like the first one might wind up being Crosby’s only Cup. But as he matured, he became a player who was able to elevate inexperienced wingers to a high level, and he, with Malkin and Kessel and good goaltending, managed to win 2 more after a long gap.

    That might be the Oilers’ template, only they could not quite get over that Anaheim hump, which if they had, they may have caught lightning in a bottle and gotten to the Finals at least.

    So we may be looking at a few more years before the Oilers can truly contend again.

    They still need a puck-moving RHD quite badly. Yes, as ricki says, defenders who can defend are key. I’m not talking about a point-scoring D per se, but one who can make good transitions and pass the puck with confidence. This team has elite talent upfront but lacks the pieces on the back end who can get them the puck properly.

    Alas we have been saying that for years.

  175. OriginalPouzar says:

    GMB3:
    Sorry OP, but #freesleppy

    Put that man at his natural position, his off wing, with a skill center.

    #throughlymediocrecoach

    He’s had two good games in the last three – looking forward to seeing what he can do in Vegas on Thursday – maybe he finally is going to grab an opportunity and run with it?

  176. OriginalPouzar says:

    Last night was another example of just how much we miss Adam Larsson and, in particular, Ryan Nugent Hopkins.

    Nuge helps in all areas including our piss poor transition game as he, at least, comes down low and pucks the puck up to skate it out (he, as well as Leon and Connor) are able to do this.

  177. GMB3 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    This is true. I’m not sure McDavids style of play is as easy to play with as Crosby (not that he would be either). I’ve heard a lot of ex NHL guys on podcasts and other mediums say that Crosby is like a third liner but incredibly skilled. Creates a lot off the forecheck and possessing the puck down low. He’s so tough to check because he’s strong on his skates and is so good on his edges. He just breaks teams down until he finds a seam.

  178. GMB3 says:

    OriginalPouzar: He’s had two good games in the last three – looking forward to seeing what he can do in Vegas on Thursday – maybe he finally is going to grab an opportunity and run with it?

    True! I thought his last game was a pretty low event game on both ends of the ice. He’s barely played this season, yet him having an average game where not much happens seems to put him in the dog house. I feel like that would be a tough environment to feel comfortable in and it goes against the vast majority of the sports psychology books I’ve read and what most sports psychologists I’ve been able to work with.

    This is what frustrates me and why I’m a fan of the #freesleppy social justice movement, lol.

  179. Mr. D. says:

    FFS fire Jimmy Johnson. The players hate him and you can tell. Great to see a Lowe on the team. No nepotism on the Oilers.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    Keegan Lowe has had a fantastic season in Bakersfield and absolutely deserved the call-up.

    The name on the back of his jersey has absolutely nothing to do with it.

  181. anonymous says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Keegan Lowe has had a fantastic season in Bakersfield and absolutely deserved the call-up.

    The name on the back of his jersey has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    You must have a lot of bridges by now.

  182. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: He’s had two good games in the last three – looking forward to seeing what he can do in Vegas on Thursday – maybe he finally is going to grab an opportunity and run with it?

    I hope you mean on the ice.lol

  183. Bank Shot says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Keegan Lowe has had a fantastic season in Bakersfield and absolutely deserved the call-up.

    The name on the back of his jersey has absolutely nothing to do with it.

    Lol.

    There are 8 million capable minor league defensemen. The OIlers call up the one with LOwe on his jersey and its just because he earned it?

    BS. They have Gryba down there who has proven to be able to survive at the NHL level.

    Lowe being called up is a joke. Fitting for this org.

  184. Mike Wazowski says:

    Too many people can’t separate the name bar that has “Lowe” on it from the players performance. By all reports and comments from his head coach Keegan deserves his call up.

  185. Mr. D. says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Not sure what the Oilers’ D is doing there. Just backing off like that in total no-man’s land.

    the Oilers have chosen to go with puck movers over defensive players.that is fine but other teams have defensive players that shut us down. Therefore our defensive weakness is exploited.

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