G57 2017-18: Oilers at Coyotes

The Edmonton Oilers are on a five-game losing streak and headed for the desert today for a game against the Arizona Coyotes. If they lose to the (surging) Dogs, the rest of this month offers no quarter. It isn’t a stretch to suggest this five-game dive could easily hit double digits if the Oilers lose today.

At this point in a losing season, it is traditional for this blog to recommend some minor league options for recall at the deadline. It’s an ill wind she blows this time, ladies and men. I’ve chosen Joe Gambardella as my cover photo, he’s one of the rookie pro’s having some success in Bakersfield. More in a minute.

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 ZUMA, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • February 2016: 3-4-0, goal differential -1 (6 points)
  • February 2017: 4-3-0, goal differential +1 (8 points)
  • February 2018: 1-5-1, goal differential -8 (3 points)
  • February 16, 2016: Anaheim 5, Edmonton 3 (Source)
  • February 21, 2017: Tampa Bay 4, Edmonton 1 (Source)

Edmonton has been unimpressive for most of the month. Part of that has to do with injury and circumstance (Nuge, Sekera and Larsson) but the team hasn’t played well at all. There is still some work to do even in a lost season and jobs to be won and lost. The goal differential is an especially disconcerting development during February. The -8 number in the first 17 days of the world’s shortest month have contributed to what is becoming a canyon of differential.

 AFTER 56, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 22-29-5, goal differential -36 (49 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 29-19-8, goal differential +12 (66 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 23-29-4, goal differential -31 (50 points)
  • February 13, 2016: Winnipeg 2, Edmonton 1 (SO) (Source)
  • February 14, 2017: Edmonton 5, Arizona 2 (Source)

A loss today means Edmonton 2017-18 will have the same point total after 57 games as the 2015-16 team. As I mentioned on the Lowdown yesterday, I do believe management and coaching can defend an 82-point season. A 70-point campaign? That’s going to be very difficult to sell. It’s reasonable to expect changes either way, but degrees up upheaval are possibly still in play.

 WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY?

  • At home to: Colorado, Tampa Bay (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Los AngelesAnaheimSan Jose (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Florida (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Vegas, Arizona, Colorado (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Boston, Colorado (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 0-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-3, 13 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 1-5-1, three points in seven games

Man this got sideways after Christmas, didn’t it? Oilers were 17-17-2 on Boxing Day and are 6-12-2 since then. This month accounts for almost half of those 12 losses and there are seven games to go. Dire. Onof the truly damning things about this season for the coaching staff is an inability to successfully address weakness. The penalty kill remains a mess after all this time. Crazy.

TOTAL RECALLS

It is one grim outlook on the farm for recall forwards this season. One of the reasons Patrick Maroon may not be dealt for a draft pick is the lack of players who can be deployed in the final 20 (or so) NHL games. The new website prospect-stats.com has a fabulous estimated 5×5 points-per-60 metric and gives us these numbers.

  1. Iiro Pakarinen 2.25
  2. Josh Currie 1.85
  3. Joe Gambardella 1.81
  4. Joey Laleggia 1.81
  5. Ty Rattie 1.81
  6. Dave Gust 1.69
  7. Grayson Downing 1.49
  8. Patrick Russell 1.49
  9. Braden Christoffer 1.39
  10. Brad Malone 1.37
  11. Mitch Callahan 1.22
  12. Kyle Platzer 1.21
  13. Ryan Hamilton 1.08
  14. Zack O’Brien 1.01

I expect Malone and or Rattie get the call, but I’ll vote for Joe Gambardella. He’s had some injury issues but is actually scoring pretty well 5×5. This might be Joey Laleggia’s last chance Texaco for the NHL. Now let’s check the blue.

I don’t see any of these men catching on and spending five seasons with Edmonton. Next season, Kailer Yamamoto and Tyler Benson will probably join this group and build toward NHL careers (although Yamamoto has a chance to make the big team out of camp). We should expect an very aggressive procurement summer, including trades for entry-level forwards, signing college free agents and undrafted CHL men. This can’t stand.

  1. Ethan Bear 1.15
  2. Keegan Lowe 0.97
  3. Caleb Jones 0.88
  4. Ryan Mantha 0.68
  5. Dillon Simpson 0.45
  6. Ryan Stanton 0.31
  7. Ben Betker 0.21

Bear’s offense at 5×5 is solid, I think it’s universally agreed he, Jones and Mantha need more time in the AHL. Perhaps a cup of coffee at season’s end for one or more as a nod for job well done. Keegan Lowe’s verbal has been rock solid all year long, he earned the recall over Simpson and Stanton. I like the young blue, but it’s important to remember these are not first-round picks and there are no guaranteed NHL jobs at the end of the entry deals.

OILERS LINES OVER 100 MINUTES 5X5

  1. Maroon-McDavid-Draisaitl 56.67 Corsi for in 277 minutes (17-10 GF)
  2. Lucic-McDavid-Puljujarvi 55.41 Corsi in 176 minutes (8-4 GF)
  3. Khaira-Draisaitl-Strome 53.01 Corsi in 105 minutes (5-4 GF)
  4. Corsica

Two of these lines could be intact after the deadline, wonder if we see it. I’m at a point where Strome is a center full stop. You?

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  1. OriginalPouzar says:

    As always, looking forward to the game this afternoon – I mean, as frustrating and disappointing as the season is, my favorite team is playing a hockey game today and I will watch.

    I am expecting two full 60-65 minute efforts this weekend.

    I rarely question team efforts but there have been some highly questionable efforts this season and its not acceptable.

    Go Oilers!

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    The lack of offence in Bakersfield to replace Maroon has to be an absolute non-factor in his potential trade.

    That simply cannot be a reason for not trading him for potentially important and valuable assets.

  3. OriginalPouzar says:

    In addition to Yamamoto and Benson, Tyler Vesel (presumably will be signed this spring) and Cam Hebig should join the Barons as well as William Lagesson on the backend.

    Yes, Hebig and Vessel are more distant bells for NHL careers but they will add some more youthful talent to the Baron and are more “real prospects” than we currently have.

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    100% Strome is a center, full-stop.

    He should play center for the rest of the year (if not traded) – management needs the last 25 games with his as a center to evaluate.

  5. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As always, looking forward to the game this afternoon – I mean, as frustrating and disappointing as the season is, my favorite team is playing a hockey game today and I will watch.

    I am expecting two full 60-65 minute efforts this weekend.

    I rarely question team efforts but there have been some highly questionable efforts this season and its not acceptable.

    Go Oilers!

    It’s against a weaker team so I have hope. If not then at least I have time to recover so I can have a sound sleep.

  6. thehop says:

    I’ll be watching today. Not because I enjoy watching the Oilers suck at hockey. I want to see OEL and Domi. What they bring and how they play the game. Trade targets. That’s all I’m looking for going forward.

    I could care less about what the current version of this team does between now and seasons end. It won’t end well and I’ve seen that movie at the theatre, full price paid, one too many times.

  7. commonfan29 says:

    At least it’s not a CBC game today. One of my most hated things these days is hearing Friedman talk about how “shocked” and “reeling” the Oilers brass are about this season.

    Anyone who was totally blindsided by the results this season needs to be fired.

  8. Brantford Boy says:

    “The penalty kill remains a mess after all this time. Crazy.”… Chris Kelly didn’t look slow at all in the first 2 Olympic games and could surely help the PK… maybe we should consider offering him a PTO next year… what are your thoughts OP? 🙂

    Is tonight an audition for OLE to Edmonton trade? According to Jim Matheson they ‘want him’. For? I’ll assume Klefbom to start, and then what???

  9. Professor Q says:

    I, for one, might actually be able to watch this game today (not often am able to).

    Maybe not the best looking game on paper but hopefully we’re surprised by a rare exciting matinée.

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    We will already have four $4M plus contract on the left side D next year so, yes, a deal for OEL likely starts with Klefbom (although Russell or Sekera would be much better – highly unlikely even without their NMCs though).

    I would be highly nervous about giving up massive assets for OEL and (a) knowing that he only has one year left and cannot sign a new contract until July and (b) still have a massive hole on the right side of our defensive depth chart and (c) knowing his new contract, assuming he does sign it with the Oilers, will be $8M plus.

    I just don’t see how this trade can happen as great of an add OEL would be in isolation.

  11. Professor Q says:

    Brantford Boy:
    “The penalty kill remains a mess after all this time. Crazy.”… Chris Kelly didn’t look slow at all in the first 2 Olympic games and could surely help the PK… maybe we should consider offering him a PTO next year… what are your thoughts OP?

    Is tonight an audition for OLE to Edmonton trade?According to Jim Matheson they ‘want him’.For?I’ll assume Klefbom to start, and then what???

    Maybe they can acquire Joel Eriksson Ek and Aaron Ekblad as well and play them on the PP with Ekman-Larsson and Larsson.

  12. Brantford Boy says:

    Professor Q,

    Not sure whats going on in your lab but pots not legal until at least August now…

  13. Woogie63 says:

    Maroon, Cammi and Letestu are three of the four slowest Oilers …. the league is getting faster … Connor needs faster wingers …

    This should not be a hard decision to cut bait.

  14. Dicky94 says:

    Woogie63,

    Yep! As much as I like Maroon and would be sad to see him go. But if you can bring in a player like Hoffman to replace him, it would be an absolute game changer. Who knows.. maybe he takes a pay cut to come back for a year. If not , I’m ready to move on.

  15. stephen sheps says:

    LT,

    Zuma year over year?

    I thought based on all of our conversations about music over the years that Zuma was your happy place record, or at least your favourite Neil album. Seems a bit of a strange thing to use as a label for the return to darkness, especially considering that for Neil it felt like Zuma was the return to solid ground after 3 years (and records) in the ditch.

  16. Scungilli Slushy says:

    After Wiliis’ tweets about OELs PP production if they have a man crush on OEL this might not turn out well, again. He might help 5v5? Klefbom has better PP rates, maybe get the guy fixed up now that Larsson is back, and let him have at it next season.

    As WG has pointed out, PPs are all about down low. Point shots are a thing of the past mostly, other than the odd highlight reel beauty or OV, but there is only one of him.

    If they gut themselves again to get OEL, it’s probably another step back, especially if he gets an overpay. If Petry’s PP numbers are better on a team with few good forwards it kinda pokes a hole in thinking OEL is just being suppressed by his team.

    The answer lies in younger players. The game is at a point where buying expensive players with reps doesn’t seem to pay. There are so few examples of it working for the buyer. Subban has been a great score for the Preds, but the Oilers didn’t have a unschooled GM mancrush D like Weber to trade.

    And Poile ditched a horrible contract to boot, to dream that could be the Oilers one day!

    Find the young D that are the McAvoy’s before they emerge, or catch a team that is making a bad decision. I think patience is at the heart of this. Tweak around the edges and wait for a solid deal. Don’t trade bats for gloves, don’t buy reputations. It doesn’t work these days if it ever did.

  17. Bobcaygeon says:

    Brantford Boy:
    “The penalty kill remains a mess after all this time. Crazy.”… Chris Kelly didn’t look slow at all in the first 2 Olympic games and could surely help the PK… maybe we should consider offering him a PTO next year… what are your thoughts OP?

    Is tonight an audition for OLE to Edmonton trade?According to Jim Matheson they ‘want him’.For?I’ll assume Klefbom to start, and then what???

    This doesn’t make sense!

    Why would Chairelli trade dollars and term for a player with one year left on his contract??

    Why would OEL not want to test free agency??

    I hate to say it but a lot of people are eating up the MSM speculation..

    No secret of my distaste for Chairelli but he would have to be six ways from Sunday type crazy to make a trade like this…

  18. LMHF#1 says:

    commonfan29:
    At least it’s not a CBC game today. One of my most hated things these days is hearing Friedman talk about how “shocked” and “reeling” the Oilers brass are about this season.

    Anyone who was totally blindsided by the results this season needs to be fired.

    They think Kris Russell is a superhero with the power of magical shot blocking. Their powers of analysis have been shown to be rather lacking.

  19. Scungilli Slushy says:

    If you haven’t read Adam Oates piece at the Player’s Tribune (Vor provided a link last thread) it’s pretty interesting. Bang on to what I think smart teams are looking for in players and what our team should be focusing on. Skill and IQ first, giver Kailer!

    It also gave an glimpse as to how a coach should handle elite players in his opinion, too much system stifles creativity. Who keeps going on about that? 🙂 I’m not sure if that is hampering the Oilers or PC doesn’t have enough of the right players, chicken or egg?

    It also made me think that if Lucic hadn’t seemingly lost his ability to pass and therefore be a playmaker at career levels it wouldn’t look so bad on him. Maybe he gets it together?

  20. Brantford Boy says:

    Bobcaygeon,

    I agree… OEL would have been an addition to make in 2013, not now… just reading some things is all, and curious what people thought it would take for the acquisition… mostly I wanted to know what OP felt about Chris Kelly, again 🙂

    More seriously, and redundant coming from me, Kristian Vesalainen from the Jets would be my target for Maroon… and with any luck decent picks for Cammalleri and Letestu…

  21. Lowetide says:

    stephen sheps:
    LT,

    Zuma year over year?

    I thought based on all of our conversations about music over the years that Zuma was your happy place record, or at least your favourite Neil album. Seems a bit of a strange thing to use as a label for the return to darkness, especially considering that for Neil it felt like Zuma was the return to solid ground after 3 years (and records) in the ditch.

    Haha. You caught me. Fridays are my night for staying up late and listening to music when the family is sleeping, and Zuma was my choice for the 1,000,000 time last night. I’m not sure what it is about that album, although the guitar sound is amazing. Either way, you are correct, happy place for me and decidedly unhappy place to slot it. But that’s why. 🙂

  22. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woogie63:
    Maroon, Cammi and Letestu are three of the four slowest Oilers …. the league is getting faster … Connor needs faster wingers …

    This should not be a hard decision to cut bait.

    Especially since they are so often passengers. Passengers need to get points or be stalwarts defensively with middling scoring. They aren’t doing anything in particular game to game. Get assets.

    The skating is less an issue if the points are there. Without elite IQ like Leon has or Tavares etc it watches like a lot of puck chasing by those three for a few decent plays, and a few whiffs on set ups a game.

  23. Ben says:

    One advantage the Oilers have with Maroon and Letestu at the deadline is affordable cap hit.

    They play, I think, is to package them off together somewhere for a 1st.

  24. godot10 says:

    //I’m at a point where Strome is a center full stop. You?//

    I’m at a point with Strome that April can’t come soon enough, and we can say “Sail On, Dylan”.

  25. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    100% Strome is a center, full-stop.

    He should play center for the rest of the year (if not traded) – management needs the last 25 games with his as a center to evaluate.

    Nothing to evaluate. Nothing in 25 games, playing for a contract, can trump 5.5 years of suckiness.

  26. BONE207 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    In addition to Yamamoto and Benson, Tyler Vesel (presumably will be signed this spring) and Cam Hebig should join the Barons as well as William Lagesson on the backend.

    Yes, Hebig and Vessel are more distant bells for NHL careers but they will add some more youthful talent to the Baron and are more “real prospects” than we currently have.

    Is Tyler Vesel related to this Vessel guy? Smaller brother perhaps? 😁

  27. godot10 says:

    Dicky94:
    Woogie63,

    Yep! As much as I like Maroon and would be sad to see him go. But if you can bring in a player like Hoffman to replace him, it would be an absolute game changer. Who knows.. maybe he takes a pay cut to come back for a year. If not , I’m ready to move on.

    Would not it behoove the Oilers to try Nugent-Hopkins (homegrown, younger, signed for longer for the same mone) at left wing with McDavid before trading scarce assets for Hoffman.

  28. leadfarmer says:

    godot10: Nothing to evaluate.Nothing in 25 games, playing for a contract, can trump 5.5 years of suckiness.

    Exactly. If you can get anything of value for him you trade him now

  29. thehop says:

    godot10:
    //I’m at a point where Strome is a center full stop. You?//

    I’m at a point with Strome that April can’t come soon enough, and we can say “Sail On, Dylan”.

    Hahahahahaha. Dylan..

    Waits for OP’s empassioned defence of Ryan Strome

  30. Oilman99 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The lack of offence in Bakersfield to replace Maroon has to be an absolute non-factor in his potential trade.

    That simply cannot be a reason for not trading him for potentially important and valuable assets.

    The Bakersfield situation is the reason a Maroon trade must be for prospects with true potential unless a first round pick is in play.

  31. Bobcaygeon says:

    godot10: Would not it behoove the Oilers to try Nugent-Hopkins (homegrown, younger, signed for longer for the same mone) at left wing with McDavid before trading scarce assets for Hoffman.

    +1

    This makes to much sense…….The question is does Chairelli think this way…….

  32. leadfarmer says:

    So how do we get Lucic to get the Hossa jock itch

  33. MattyIce says:

    Strome plus to get him to play with his bro. Strome 2nd rounder for Domi… Wishful thinking!

    I have a feeling we get Hoffman or Pacc

  34. Gret99zky says:

    godot10: Would not it behoove the Oilers to try Nugent-Hopkins (homegrown, younger, signed for longer for the same mone) at left wing with McDavid before trading scarce assets for Hoffman.

    lol.

    Stop making sense.

  35. thehop says:

    MattyIce:
    Strome plus to get him to play with his bro. Strome 2nd rounder for Domi… Wishful thinking!

    I have a feeling we get Hoffman or Pacc

    I wonder if Strome plus gets Domi out of Arizona?

    I suspect not but God that would be nice.

  36. Oilman99 says:

    godot10: Would not it behoove the Oilers to try Nugent-Hopkins (homegrown, younger, signed for longer for the same mone) at left wing with McDavid before trading scarce assets for Hoffman.

    A Hoffman trade creates more cap problems trying to solve the r-defence problems,don’t see that as a reality,also Hoffman is no youngster,and his numbers could start sliding soon.

  37. frjohnk says:

    Oilers cant pay Strome $3M next year to play bottom 6. Oilers have to qualify him at $3M or risk losing him to UFA. Strome may feel he is worth that and can get that someplace else. So if that is the case, the proper response would be to trade him at the deadline to at least get some kind of asset for him.

  38. Oilman99 says:

    Woogie63:
    Maroon, Cammi and Letestu are three of the four slowest Oilers …. the league is getting faster … Connor needs faster wingers …

    This should not be a hard decision to cut bait.

    Any solution to unload Lucic is a good one,even if it’s for a bag of pucks.

  39. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    ARI is 3-1-1 in their last 5 games.

    Raata seems to finally be healthy, here is his last 10 appearances:

    Feb 15 – 0.944
    Feb 13 – 1.000
    Feb 12 – 0.974
    Feb 10 – 0.930
    Feb 8 – 0.893
    Feb 6 – 0.826
    Jan 25 – 0.926
    Jan 22 – 0.941
    Jan 20 – 0.926
    Jan 18 – 0.949

    Total .936 (all situations)

    I made a total of 8 over/under season point total bets this year. I am behind on only 1 (ahead on 5, 2 tracking to be really close, but slightly ahead today)

    ARI over 72 pts.

    I bet heavily on goalies and Dcrops for season point totals, more so than forwards.

    The only exception to this rule is established full grown Unicorns and only PIT usually qualifies.

    One of the reason I put the mortgage on EDM under 104 points was that they had no Dmen with positive 2nd pairing experience on the roster to start the year.

    Kelfbom/Larsson – Positive Top 4

    Russell – needs to be the 4, not the 3
    Nurse – 16/17 was not Top 4 results
    Benning – Top 4 results only with Sekera
    Sekera – Not in line up until Christmas or so, won’t be the same when he gets here
    Gryba – Not top 4.

    That’s two Top 4 Dmen to start the year.

    If you’ve ever read my thing on Top 4Dman TOI totals and playoffs, you’d hit the under too: http://becauseoilers.blogspot.ca/2016/04/playoff-teams-in-nhl-average-60-of-dman.html

    I hit the over for ARI because along with Raanta I saw:

    OEL, Goligoski, Hjarmlasson as top 4 Dmen (Demers wasn’t there yet)

    Chychrun projects as Top 4 but wan’t there yet.

    I felt those 3 + maybe Chychrun + Raanta would be a good bet over 72.

    *sound of 10 car pile up*

    Raanta gets hurt and took half a year to get to form.

    Hjarmalsson hurt early, looked done but has bounced back.

    Goligoski couldn’t carry a 2nd pairing and was a drag on everyone. Is currently playing 3rds.

    Chychrun was injured and when he came back was only good with Hjarlm and only later in the year.

    Demers was a good addition and stabilized OEL (OEL was rotten with hurt Hjarml)

    Injuries are a real bitch.

    Fast forward to today and ARI is icing these pairs:

    OEL-Demers (CF% 51.8)
    Chychrun-Hjarlmasson (CF% 50.6)
    Connaughton-Goligoski (CF% 44.2)

    They now have a top 4 and good goalie, so they won’t be an easy out for anyone if their health holds.

    For the longest time this year they only had a top pair. No goalie, no 2nd pair. Man.

    Also,

    Goligoski is interesting.

    Leading ARI Dmen in points with 29 (one more than OEL), but a total gongshow possession wise this year and a real drag on his partners.

    Here is every Goligoski partner (90 min+) with their CF% with him minus their CF% away from him:
    Jakob Chychrun 5.3
    Luke Schenn 2.5
    Niklas Hjalmarsson -2.0
    Kevin Connauton 1.4
    Oliver Ekman-Larsson 2.8
    Jason Demers 4.5

    Yeeesh. Only Hjarlmasson has better results with Goligoski and two of his top 4 partners are ~5% better without him. That’s not good Bob.

    3 more years at $5.475 with a NMC

    I bet you could move him though.

    A lot of GMs will look at the points and gladly pony up for him and assume he’s ok in the top 4…….

    Also,

    I wonder if Larsson plays?

    Remember back in November when I was screaming bloody murder to play 77-6 together and keep 77-83 apart because they were a tire fire?

    Yeah, 77-83 became a permanent thing despite awful results day in and out while 25’s results with 6 were very close to 77’s and 25-4 were actually good in the top 4.

    The deployment issues on the back end of the Oilers are just as bad as the front end.

    Fire Centennial Mall.

    GOILERS!!!

    *clap,clap*

  40. Lowetide says:

    frjohnk:
    Oilers cant pay Strome $3M next year to play bottom 6.Oilers have to qualify him at $3M or risk losing him to UFA. Strome may feel he is worth that and can get that someplace else.So if that is the case, the proper response would be to trade him at the deadline to at least get some kind of asset for him.

    Plenty of solid thought there, if the Oilers can re-sign him for (say) 3x$2.75M it would be worth it imo.

  41. godot10 says:

    Nugent-Hopkins, McDavid, Slepyshev
    Khaira, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi
    Lucic, Strome, xxx

    This is what I hope to see after the trade deadline till the end of the season.

  42. Brantford Boy says:

    leadfarmer,

    I know a girl…

  43. Oilman99 says:

    flyfish1168: It’s against a weaker team so I have hope. If not then at least I have time to recover so I can have a sound sleep.

    Yotes are hot,Oilers are not this could be another ugly afternoon fiasco.

  44. BONE207 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: Especially since they are so often passengers. Passengers need to get points or be stalwarts defensively with middling scoring. They aren’t doing anything in particular game to game. Get assets.

    The skating is less an issue if the points are there. Without elite IQ like Leon has or Tavares etc it watches like a lot of puck chasing by those three for a few decent plays, and a few whiffs on set ups a game.

    I ‘ve read all the postings over the past few days & the DofD type rage over all things Oilers. This talk of getting such & such players for all the unwanted or seemingly useless players we currently have is pie in the sky stuff. There is distrust in the management & why would other seemingly smarter GMs take on our least useful players?

    Something major has to shake loose for my optimism to increase fo Connor’s future. It might be a Cavalier type of rebuild or just single contract removal or perhaps a front office upheaval but my emotional rollercoaster will be parked till then.

  45. JimmyV1965 says:

    Hey LT, would you ever consider doing a write up
    on what you would do as a GM to improve the Oilers, for the short term and long term? I don’t think I have ever seen anything like that from you. Would also love to hear what other posters would do. There’s some pretty sharp people here.

  46. Scungilli Slushy says:

    godot10: Nothing to evaluate.Nothing in 25 games, playing for a contract, can trump 5.5 years of suckiness.

    He’s helpful at the right price playing the right way. The comparables on Capfriendly seem mostly in the mid to low 2M range.

    He needs to up his two way game. I’m not sure he has seen his NHL path, he’s not going to be a top 6 player (on a strong team) given he’s in the heart of his scoring career now.

    He has to be a solid two way third liner. Bottom 6 on a good team can’t get outscored and have to man the PK effectively.

  47. godot10 says:

    Lowetide: Plenty of solid thought there, if the Oilers can re-sign him for (say) 3x$2.75M it would be worth it imo.

    The Oilers can easily find a player on waivers or in free agency or who can bring what Strome brings for under $1.5 million dollars. Or from a team looking to dump a contract with a year left on it.

  48. Westchester Oil says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    After Wiliis’ tweets about OELs PP production if they have a man crush on OEL this might not turn out well, again. He might help 5v5? Klefbom has better PP rates, maybe get the guy fixed up now that Larsson is back, and let him have at it next season.

    As WG has pointed out, PPs are all about down low. Point shots are a thing of the past mostly, other than the odd highlight reel beauty or OV, but there is only one of him.

    If they gut themselves again to get OEL, it’s probably another step back, especially if he gets an overpay. If Petry’s PP numbers are better on a team with few good forwards it kinda pokes a hole in thinking OEL is just being suppressed by his team.

    The answer lies in younger players. The game is at a point where buying expensive players with reps doesn’t seem to pay. There are so few examples of it working for the buyer. Subban has been a great score for the Preds, but the Oilers didn’t have a unschooled GM mancrush D like Weber to trade.

    And Poile ditched a horrible contract to boot, to dream that could be the Oilers one day!

    Find the young D that are the McAvoy’s before they emerge, or catch a team that is making a bad decision. I think patience is at the heart of this. Tweak around the edges and wait for a solid deal. Don’t trade bats for gloves, don’t buy reputations. It doesn’t work these days if it ever did.

    True dat. Excellent post.

  49. BONE207 says:

    Bobcaygeon: +1

    This makes to much sense…….The question is does Chairelli think this way…….

    Chiarelli might but it’s the guy that owns & has the finger on the blender button that makes the decision. I’ve been drinking too many smoothies lately…

  50. OriginalPouzar says:

    Brantford Boy:
    Bobcaygeon,

    I agree… OEL would have been an addition to make in 2013, not now… just reading some things is all, and curious what people thought it would take for the acquisition… mostly I wanted to know what OP felt about Chris Kelly, again

    More seriously, and redundant coming from me, Kristian Vesalainen from the Jets would be my target for Maroon… and with any luck decent picks for Cammalleri and Letestu…

    Maybe Chris Kelly can be a value contract at the league minimum?

  51. frjohnk says:

    Lowetide: Plenty of solid thought there, if the Oilers can re-sign him for (say) 3x$2.75M it would be worth it imo.

    Yeah, it becomes an issue of the Oilers needing actual NHL players for next year while also fitting those NHL players under the cap.

    Oilers are top heavy in salary, need a bunch of contracts that are value or at least contracts priced right

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oilman99: A Hoffman trade creates more cap problems trying to solve the r-defence problems,don’t see that as a reality,also Hoffman is no youngster,and his numbers could start sliding soon.

    Agreed!

    The Oilers don’t have the cap resources to acquire an established top 6 winger and fill the important 1/2 RD spot. In fact, they don’t have the cap resources to do either and need to move one of the four (when Nurse signs) $4M contracts on the left side to acquire cap space to fill the RD hole.

    Unfortunately, management seems to care more about the top 6 winger spots (that can filled internally with cheap ELC contracts if they are just patient) than the RD spot (which likely needs to be filled externally).

    Sigh!

  53. OriginalPouzar says:

    frjohnk:
    Oilers cant pay Strome $3M next year to play bottom 6.Oilers have to qualify him at $3M or risk losing him to UFA. Strome may feel he is worth that and can get that someplace else.So if that is the case, the proper response would be to trade him at the deadline to at least get some kind of asset for him.

    They don’t have to qualify him at $3M – they can negotiate a contract lesser than the qualifying offer – similar to Kassian last year.

    Of course, Strome has the Trump and can just say no and force the QO or UFA status.

    I would hope they are in talks with Strome’s camp on a potential $2.25M X 2 (or 3) type deal.

  54. meanashell11 says:

    I think it is hilarious when Calgary gets praise for the Backlund deal and people say Nuge is overpaid. The guy is 28, Nuge will be what, 27 when his contract ends? He is in his prime. Backlund will be 34 when his contract ends.Drives me crazy.

  55. Scungilli Slushy says:

    BONE207: I ‘ve read all the postings over the past few days & the DofD type rage over all things Oilers. This talk of getting such & such players for all the unwanted or seemingly useless players we currently have is pie in the sky stuff. There is distrust in the management & why would other seemingly smarter GMs take on our least useful players?

    Something major has to shake loose for my optimism to increase fo Connor’s future. It might be a Cavalier type of rebuild or just single contract removal or perhaps a front office upheaval but my emotional rollercoaster will be parked till then.

    It’s about timing. I didn’t suggest that PC trade Maroon etc for some teams golden prospect, but at the trade deadline for teams thinking they have a shot, what other teams see as helpful players are at their highest price. We see it every season. They are looking for depth.

    The three are NHL calibre players, they aren’t complete plugs, even if they aren’t elite. My thought is you look for a second level prospect preferably or a pick, or maybe you get lucky and get a top prospect.

    Alex Burrows fetched Jonathan Dahlen last deadline who has 1 point less than Elias Pettersson in Sweden’s elite league at one year older this season, leads his team in scoring again. That was a nice trade by Benning. Even if Dahlen doesn’t make the NHL that is a great bet for an old player.

    This type of thing isn’t pie in the sky, it happens yearly. The Oilers desperately need to stock the system with talent to make the team and/or give PC options.

  56. Jethro Tull says:

    godot10: The Oilers can easily find a player on waivers or in free agency or who can bring what Strome brings for under $1.5 million dollars.Or from a team looking to dump a contract with a year left on it.

    You lost me at “the Oilers can easily…..”

    When was the last time the Oilers accomplished anything easily.

  57. thehop says:

    meanashell11,

    If he played on any other team than the Oilers, that contract and the player would be viewed differently.

    That is a gross overpayment by Calgary. It’s good to know the Oilers aren’t the only franchise in Alberta capable of fucking up contract negotiations.

  58. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar: They don’t have to qualify him at $3M – they can negotiate a contract lesser than the qualifying offer – similar to Kassian last year.

    Of course, Strome has the Trump and can just say no and force the QO or UFA status.

    I would hope they are in talks with Strome’s camp on a potential $2.25M X 2 (or 3) type deal.

    If PC wasn’t an ATM machine its a simple talk – do you want to be on the team or not? But he is an ATM machine. He’ll probably get 3.5 x 5.

  59. Bobcaygeon says:

    godot10: The Oilers can easily find a player on waivers or in free agency or who can bring what Strome brings for under $1.5 million dollars.Or from a team looking to dump a contract with a year left on it.

    Thats exactly it, look at teams willing to dump a contract or finding cheap help….Fun fact of the day David Desharnais of the playoff team version of the Oilers has more points in the same amount of games as Strome does…… DD is at 1M

  60. Woogie63 says:

    Johnny Hockey, Monahan, Backlund and Hamilton all on good contracts… Calgary GM has done ok

  61. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    “The deployment issues on the back end of the Oilers are just as bad as the front end.”

    Coaching. I have much Respect for TMac; but lets be honest, its time for him to move on. 3 years is plenty of time They have delivered the worst PK in modern history. They have messed up deployment all year. Fire the entire staff .

  62. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Backlund is a strong 2 way player that can score decently and play top 6. He’s at a decent price as salaries are and is a core player for them. The term is needed to get the price down. He also only has a no trade for three years which isn’t too risky for the Flames.

    To me risky players are non elite players that are weak skaters in their prime. You never know where the cliff edge is. Like Lucic 🙂

  63. BONE207 says:

    The Hungarian translation for “speed bump ” in a literal sense is “laying policeman”. With all the talk of loading cannons, firing WEM etc, where do posters like verite & cassandra go when they could be running over entire police forces as well?

  64. jtblack says:

    Woogie63:
    Johnny Hockey, Monahan, Backlund and Hamilton all on good contracts… Calgary GM has done ok

    I disagree. Captain is 34 Starting goalie is 36. Almost no picks in next 2 drafts. They mortgaged the future to win today If they don’t get in it will be a major set back

    They have limited secondary scoring. Needs to be addressed

    EDIT: You said OK. I agree Trevling has been OK. but CGY is in win now mode.

  65. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: They don’t have to qualify him at $3M – they can negotiate a contract lesser than the qualifying offer – similar to Kassian last year.

    And how did that work out. Chiarelli ended up overpaying Kassian by nearly 100% for three years for the 4th line RW spot.

  66. SK Oiler Fan says:

    One of the reasons Patrick Maroon may not be dealt for a draft pick is the lack of players who can be deployed in the final 20 (or so) NHL games.
    If this comes up in conversation around the boardroom ping pong table I just don’t know anymore. Every decision made after Jan 1 should have been for Sep 2018. Once you’re done for the year You’re done. Get the jump on the competition for next year. These guys need all the advantage they can get

  67. jeetz says:

    godot10,

    If the Oilers sign Strome as a bottom 6 FWD (2 mil per), then they are set up nice at center in their bottom 6

    Caggiula Strome Slepyshev
    Pakarinen Khaira Kassian

    Honestly, that is both affordable and 6 players with speed, grit, some offense and PK ability

  68. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    Thanks for the write up. So by your thoughts the real play is to find a right side top 4. I agree with this, it’s absolutely needed to get the right flow of play. Benning has some talent but he hasn’t shown that he’s a sure fire top 4 even if he’s relatively young still.

    Benning is the odd man out because of Russell. Ideally he’d slide to 3RD, but Russell should be there given contracts, and Benning isn’t the right option for 7D at this point.

    Get the RD and move Benning for a prospect where the hole opens up.

  69. BONE207 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    This type of thing isn’t pie in the sky, it happens yearly. The Oilers desperately need to stock the system with talent to make the team and/or give PC options.

    Of course you are right…it’s just that now no one is even sure if Chia is the decision maker going forward & whether the organization can get out of the painted corner without leaving footprints on the new carpeting

  70. Woogie63 says:

    jtblack: I disagree.Captain is 34Starting goalie is 36.Almost no picks in next 2 drafts.They mortgaged the future to win today If they don’t get in it will be a major set back

    They have limited secondary scoring. Needs to be addressed

    EDIT: You said OK.I agree Trevling has been OK.but CGY is in win now mode.

    JT

    I don’t mind Calgary’s product line on defense… Gio is 34, but Brodie, Hamilton, Hamonic and Stone are good core group with productive years ahead.

    Andersson and Klingberg are percolating pros
    Fox and Valimaki are solid prospects

    Smith has been great in goalie… MVP season
    But 2 good young pros are being developed.

    You have to give Tree his due.

  71. godot10 says:

    jeetz:
    godot10,

    If the Oilers sign Strome as a bottom 6 FWD (2 mil per), then they are set up nice at center in their bottom 6

    CaggiulaStrome Slepyshev
    PakarinenKhairaKassian

    Honestly, that is both affordable and 6 players with speed, grit, some offense and PK ability

    They would be if Strome were any good, but he isn’t. He hasn’t scored since Christmas. And he is supposed to be a scorer. And he is a weak defensive player.

    Does anybody watch the games? If you look up “useless hockey player” in the dictionary it has a picture of Ryan Strome.

  72. Scungilli Slushy says:

    BONE207: Of course you are right…it’s just that now no one is even sure if Chia is the decision maker going forward & whether the organization can get out of the painted corner without leaving footprints on the new carpeting

    That is absolutely the scariest thing. More poorly taken decisions.

  73. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    meanashell11:
    I think it is hilarious when Calgary gets praise for the Backlund deal and people say Nuge is overpaid. The guy is 28, Nuge will be what, 27 when his contract ends? He is in his prime.Backlund will be 34 when his contract ends.Drives me crazy.

    Backlund should be in the Selke conversation every year, he’s that good.

    Here’s his 5v5 production and RNH’s over the past 5 years (and Backlund has had lesser wingers to play with)

    5v5 Pts/60
    RNH 1.59
    Backlund 1.50

    5v5 Primary Pts/60
    RNH 1.22
    Backlund 1.09

    Relative CF%
    RNH +0.07
    Backlund +4.4

    Relative GF%
    RNH +1.32
    Backlund +2.95

    I think RNH is slighly better offensively, but Backlund’s defensive work (against the best) more than makes up that ground.

    He’s not an overly physical player so his contract running out at 34 should be fine

    He has 534 total NHL games played. He has lots of blacktop left.

  74. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    thehop:
    meanashell11,

    If he played on any other team than the Oilers, that contract and the player would be viewed differently.

    That is a gross overpayment by Calgary. It’s good to know the Oilers aren’t the only franchise in Alberta capable of fucking up contract negotiations.

    This is 100% opposite of the truth

  75. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Scungilli Slushy:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    Thanks for the write up. So by your thoughts the real play is to find a right side top 4. I agree with this, it’s absolutely needed to get the right flow of play. Benning has some talent but he hasn’t shown that he’s a sure fire top 4 even if he’s relatively young still.

    Benning is the odd man out because of Russell. Ideally he’d slide to 3RD, but Russell should be there given contracts, and Benning isn’t the right option for 7D at this point.

    Get the RD and move Benning for a prospect where the hole opens up.

    I keep Benning, I like him.

    He’s a good 3rd pair RHD today and might grow into an Actual Top 4 Dman.

  76. danny says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    As always, looking forward to the game this afternoon – I mean, as frustrating and disappointing as the season is, my favorite team is playing a hockey game today and I will watch.

    I am expecting two full 60-65 minute efforts this weekend.

    I rarely question team efforts but there have been some highly questionable efforts this season and its not acceptable.

    Go Oilers!

    Honest question OP. Why do you restate that you are an Oilers fan, and you’ll be cheering for them tonight at the beginning of every thread? I’ve been contemplating possible reasons and the simplest answer of communicating a thought seems unlikely due to constant restatement. And it’s not really something of a discussion point that people would normally make ad nauseum such as the hall trade. Is it a good luck ritual or something?

  77. leadfarmer says:

    Woodguy v2.0,

    I picked up Raanta in my keeper pool last year for free. Very good goalie on a team that needs more experienced and better forwards. Im very shocked that Chayka hasn’t signed him

  78. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Backlund was 4th in Selke voting last year:

    Player Votes
    Patrice Bergeron 1147
    Ryan Kesler 945
    Mikko Koivu 752
    Mikael Backlund 310
    Jonathan Toews 273

    I take him over Kesler every day of the week.

    Koivu is better than Backlund though.

    Bergeron is one of the best players in the NHL.

    *the more you know rainbow*

  79. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    leadfarmer:
    Woodguy v2.0,

    I picked up Raanta in my keeper pool last year for free. Very good goalie on a team that needs more experienced and better forwards. Im very shocked that Chayka hasn’t signed him

    I think he wanted to see how he finished the season.

    So far so good.

  80. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    jtblack: I disagree.Captain is 34Starting goalie is 36.Almost no picks in next 2 drafts.They mortgaged the future to win today If they don’t get in it will be a major set back

    They have limited secondary scoring. Needs to be addressed

    EDIT: You said OK.I agree Trevling has been OK.but CGY is in win now mode.

    And Edmonton is in win never mode?

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: And how did that work out.Chiarelli ended up overpaying Kassian by nearly 100% for three years forthe 4th line RW spot.

    I guess you missed the point about the ability to sign a player at less than the required qualifying offer.

    You aren’t stupid so you are being intentionally obtuse.

    Good Day!

  82. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: They would be if Strome were any good, but he isn’t.He hasn’t scored since Christmas.And he is supposed to be a scorer. And he is a weak defensive player.

    Does anybody watch the games?If you look up “useless hockey player” in the dictionary it has a picture of Ryan Strome.

    Those that watch the games (as opposed to looking at the stat line – i.e. what your post indicates), they would see that Strome is much better player that you suggest.

    He is a fine defensive player – much better than about half of the forward on the Oilers and he’s actually doing quite well on the PK these days. He’s got offensive acumen (despite low totals he’s shown to create offence as a center with bottom 6 wingers) and would be a great bottom 6 center if his contract is in line with such a role.

  83. OriginalPouzar says:

    danny: Honest question OP. Why do you restate that you are an Oilers fan, and you’ll be cheering for them tonight at the beginning of every thread? I’ve been contemplating possible reasons and the simplest answer of communicating a thought seems unlikely due to constant restatement. And it’s not really something of a discussion point that people would normally make ad nauseum such as the hall trade. Is it a good luck ritual or something?

    I read the same people post the same things about the Oilers – bashing every move of the past, bashing the players, bashing the coaching staff and stating they have lost interest. I will continue to retort with my same statement.

    I have to read the same negative things every day, multiple times per day, and will therefore post my same thoughts as there is nothing new to talk about.

  84. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I keep Benning, I like him.

    He’s a good 3rd pair RHD today and might grow into an Actual Top 4 Dman.

    I like him as well, he’s better than Russell overall IMO. Who are you filling that 2RD spot with?

  85. who says:

    Lowetide: Plenty of solid thought there, if the Oilers can re-sign him for (say) 3x$2.75M it would be worth it imo.

    Don’t think you can pay Strome any more than 2 million when you look at the teams salary structure. They have to keep their bottom 6 on cheap contracts.
    If Strome won’t sign for that they need to move him. They are already overpaying too many players.

  86. Georges says:

    godot10: They would be if Strome were any good, but he isn’t.He hasn’t scored since Christmas.And he is supposed to be a scorer. And he is a weak defensive player.

    Does anybody watch the games?If you look up “useless hockey player” in the dictionary it has a picture of Ryan Strome.

    If watching the games led you to that conclusion, reconsider watching the games.

    Also, your dictionary defines phrases. And it has pictures. Cool.

    Strome should be an inexpensive, short-term player if he’s on the roster at all next season. I agree with the not impressive part of what you say about him, not with the useless part. If Strome is the exemplar for useless, the league is filthy with useless.

  87. JimmyV1965 says:

    jtblack: I disagree.Captain is 34Starting goalie is 36.Almost no picks in next 2 drafts.They mortgaged the future to win today If they don’t get in it will be a major set back

    They have limited secondary scoring. Needs to be addressed

    EDIT: You said OK.I agree Trevling has been OK.but CGY is in win now mode.

    To be fair, the Flames still have plenty of prospects. We are way behind them.

  88. Genjutsu says:

    If this team had league average goaltending do they make the playoffs?

  89. jtblack says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: And Edmonton is in win never mode?

    Edmontons core players are young. They have Drai and Connor locked up for 8 years. I would suggest they have an 8 yr window.

    The problem I see is that in 2014 and 2015, The Oilers basically had 1 oick in the top 100 each year. They hit on Drai and McD, but they have precious few players from those drafts in the lineup or ready to make an impact. When most rmteams are now seeing thise players break into their lineups and push for spots.

    Brodie has dissapeared and when / IF Gio starts to slide I see trouble in cgy.

    They do have decent prospects; but I think they are win in the next 2 – 3 yrs. Could be wrong of course

  90. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar: I guess you missed the point about the ability to sign a player at less than the required qualifying offer.

    You aren’t stupid so you are being intentionally obtuse.

    Good Day!

    My point is that you can pay a player less and still ridiculously overpay them in money and duration.

    Chiarelli did this with both Kassian and Russell, negotiating against himself instead of letting them go to market and come crawling back.

  91. godot10 says:

    Georges:

    Also, your dictionary defines phrases. And it has pictures. Cool.

    I was using Bill Belichick’s dictionary.

    “Danny’s such a good football player,” Belichick said, per ESPN. “When you look up ‘good football player’ in the dictionary, his picture is right there beside it.”

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000909355/article/belichick-danny-amendola-such-a-good-football-player

  92. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Those that watch the games (as opposed to looking at the stat line – i.e. what your post indicates), they would see that Strome is much better player that you suggest.

    He is a fine defensive player – much better than about half of the forward on the Oilers and he’s actually doing quite well on the PK these days.He’s got offensive acumen (despite low totals he’s shown to create offence as a center with bottom 6 wingers) and would be a great bottom 6 center if his contract is in line with such a role.

    I’ve seen Strome better when he’s at C, but the reality is he has one more goal than Kass and one less goal than Khaira, despite getting lots of PP time. I would try to trade him at the deadline. Not many Cs available so who knows, maybe someone overpays.

  93. godot10 says:

    Genjutsu:
    If this team had league average goaltending do they make the playoffs?

    If this team had a coaching staff who could actually coach (i.e. fix the special teams), they would make the playoffs.

  94. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Scungilli Slushy: I like him as well, he’s better than Russell overall IMO. Who are you filling that 2RD spot with?

    I like Barrie the most.

    I’d take Demers too.

    I like Faulk, but if EDM fans think Klefbom is soft around the net they’ll hate Faulk, and he costs the most to get.

    I think all 3 are available to some degree and I’d take any of em

  95. Woogie63 says:

    meanashell11:
    I think it is hilarious when Calgary gets praise for the Backlund deal and people say Nuge is overpaid. The guy is 28, Nuge will be what, 27 when his contract ends? He is in his prime.Backlund will be 34 when his contract ends.Drives me crazy.

    The Flames paid Backlund $3.6 during his prime years.

    I suspect RNH’s next contract will this contract or better

  96. OriginalPouzar says:

    I really hope that Maroon is in the lineup today. He didn’t practice yesterday (nor did Russell or Nurse).

    If he’s out for a couple of weeks it would be devastating to our deadline.

  97. godot10 says:

    Why Jacques Martin? #TeamJacquesMartin

    1) Experience as a decent to good coach. His teams are never awful. He gets at least what is there out of his teams.
    2) Temperament and teaching ability. Made Chara what he is today.
    3) Situated at the heart of the new “play fast” hockey as an assistant in PIttsburgh
    4) Familiar with the “two elite centre but no elite D” model, and the necessity of cheap wingers.
    5) Familiar with the unicorn model “three scoring lines” in Pittsburgh.

    May desire another chance.

  98. Pescador says:

    Oilman99: The Bakersfield situation is the reason a Maroon trade must be for prospects with true potential unless a first round pick is in play.

    Of course a drafted prospect is far more desirable, problem with rentals like Maroon is other GMs are only willing to pay with draft picks unless you want somebody else’s B level prospect.
    Think Griffen Rienhart.
    Second round draft picks by the Oilers in the last Decade have truly amounted to nothing more then magic beans. Except for Petry, good thing we traded him.
    I Pray for Benson, Oiler development odds are stacked firmly against him.

  99. SwedishPoster says:

    Scungilli Slushy: It’s about timing. I didn’t suggest that PC trade Maroon etc for some teams golden prospect, but at the trade deadline for teams thinking they have a shot, what other teams see as helpful players are at their highest price. We see it every season. They are looking for depth.

    The three are NHL calibre players, they aren’t complete plugs, even if they aren’t elite. My thought is you look for a second level prospect preferably or a pick, or maybe you get lucky and get a top prospect.

    Alex Burrows fetched Jonathan Dahlen last deadline who has 1 point less than Elias Pettersson in Sweden’s elite league at one year older this season, leads his team in scoring again. That was a nice trade by Benning. Even if Dahlen doesn’t make the NHL that is a great bet for an old player.

    This type of thing isn’t pie in the sky, it happens yearly. The Oilers desperately need to stock the system with talent to make the team and/or give PC options.

    While Dahlen is a great talent he’s played 0 secs in the swedish elite league this season. He’s producing in Sweden’s 2nd tier. So not quite at Elias Petterssons level but still a great season and a haul for Canucks getting him for Alex Burrows. So your point still stands, I’m just being a bit of a nitpicking arse.

  100. Pescador says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    I really hope that Maroon is in the lineup today.He didn’t practice yesterday (nor did Russell or Nurse).

    If he’s out for a couple of weeks it would be devastating to our deadline.

    Maroon probably has a sore knee from that collision last game
    Russell from over eating at the biscuit buffet
    Nurse probably fight that sore hand/wrist from that shot against the Kings, certainly has looked that way in the past few games

  101. Gret99zky says:

    godot10: They would be if Strome were any good, but he isn’t.He hasn’t scored since Christmas.And he is supposed to be a scorer. And he is a weak defensive player.

    Does anybody watch the games?If you look up “useless hockey player” in the dictionary it has a picture of Ryan Strome.

    Holy Crap!

    He’s right.

    https://s18.postimg.org/hymfr60ft/strome_dictionary.png

  102. OriginalPouzar says:

    Brossoit recalled on an emergency basis (Montoya hurt in practice) and Lowe returned to Bakersfield.

  103. Woodguy v2.0 says:


    @Left_Wing_Lock
    Keegan Lowe: Has been reassigned to the AHL. https://leftwinglock.com/news #nhl #LetsGoOilers

    @Left_Wing_Lock
    Laurent Brossoit: Has been recalled from the AHL. https://leftwinglock.com/news #nhl #LetsGoOilers

    I guess Larsson is ready to go and Montoya is down for a while

    Not sure if this is old or new news

  104. godot10 says:

    According to this article, Jacques Martin signed a two-year extension in the summer of 2016, so should be free this spring after the three-peat.

    https://www.nhl.com/news/penguins-assistant-jacques-martin-finally-holds-stanley-cup/c-281294180

    #TeamJacquesMartin

  105. Scungilli Slushy says:

    SwedishPoster: While Dahlen is a great talent he’s played 0 secs in the swedish elite league this season. He’s producing in Sweden’s 2nd tier. So not quite at Elias Petterssons level but still a great season and a haul for Canucks getting him for Alex Burrows. So your point still stands, I’m just being a bit of a nitpicking arse.

    Thanks for clarifying, I didn’t check the leagues closely enough.

  106. bendelson says:

    Gret99zky: Holy Crap!

    He’s right.

    https://s18.postimg.org/hymfr60ft/strome_dictionary.png

    Curious to see what your ‘dictionary’ says about Russell…

  107. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I like Barrie the most.

    I’d take Demers too.

    I like Faulk, but if EDM fans think Klefbom is soft around the net they’ll hate Faulk, and he costs the most to get.

    I think all 3 are available to some degree and I’d take any of em

    I think they need an upgrade, I’m not sure what they do with all of them. I suppose they can use Benning as the 7 and he’ll get games because of injury. I can’t see them sitting Russell.

  108. Munny says:

    Gret99zky: Holy Crap!

    He’s right.

    https://s18.postimg.org/hymfr60ft/strome_dictionary.png

    Oilers in Greek letters was a nice touch.

  109. ArmchairGM says:

    leadfarmer: Exactly.If you can get anything of value for him you trade him now

    Strome for Domi?

  110. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I like Barrie the most.

    I’d take Demers too.

    I like Faulk, but if EDM fans think Klefbom is soft around the net they’ll hate Faulk, and he costs the most to get.

    I think all 3 are available to some degree and I’d take any of em

    Agrred. Any of the 3. IMHO mgmt has to achieve the Balance photo. Then evaluate; the tinker and Add.

  111. Nix says:

    godot10:
    Nugent-Hopkins, McDavid, Slepyshev
    Khaira, Draisaitl, Puljujarvi
    Lucic, Strome, xxx

    This is what I hope to see after the trade deadline till the end of the season.

    This is solid.
    Two wingers that can move and play off the rush with McD.
    Two big lanky half court kids to play to Draisaitls strengths
    A slower, righty C that’s theorized will best work with Lucic while bumping down his minutes on the third line..
    Makes all kinds of sense. Throw in ‘bench Russell and run Nurse-Klefbom-Auvitu down the left side’ and voila.

  112. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maroon is playing – thank goodness.

    Strome back to center which I like (he’s better there) even though it means that it means that Drai is 1RW.

    I like both Strome and Khaira at center – we need to see what these two can do in those positions and both are better at center than on the wing (and have both stated they prefer the middle – Khaira very recently):

    19-97-29
    27-16-98
    13-18-42
    91-55-44

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    I was wrong, Larsson is playing and Benning gets the game off

    Nurse-Larsson
    Klefbom-Russell
    Auvitu-Davidson

    I’d like to see Benning in so we at least have two right shot D.

    Russell at right D in the top 4 does not work – he can’t move the puck and the lack of overall ability to move the puck is killing the team. I don’t like Davidson on his off-side, again, due to lack of ability to move the puck but at least its not in the top 4.

  114. Woogie63 says:

    Capfriendly has a compare “this contract’ button ….new to me

    If you look at a few contracts from a math POV – top 5 comparable contracts

    Lucic – ulgy contract value

    Krejci
    Semin
    Parise
    Carter
    Havlat

    Larsson – unbelieve great value

    Moore
    Gelinas
    Weber
    Allie
    Elliot

    Russell – pretty good value a win

    Seidenberg
    Coburn
    Scuderi
    Ference
    Alzner

    Strome – not covering the value

    Hayes
    Yak
    Zibiejad
    Miller
    Schenn

    Hall – covers the bet

    Eberle
    Seguin
    Skinner
    Tavares
    E. Kane

    Eberle – not good value for the contract

    Skinner
    Seguin
    Hall
    Tavares
    E. Kane

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    Lots of prospects in action again tonight including Safin, Maksimov, Vesel, Skinner, Benson, Yamamoto and the Condors.

    Safin has 9 goals in his last 11 games with very little offensive help and being asked to play center (he’s a natural RW) for most of those games.

    Good stuff from Ostaf right now.

  116. JD_Wry says:

    bendelson: Curious to see what your ‘dictionary’ says about Russell…

    And do they have GMs in this book?

  117. Gayfish says:

    I’d like to see Simpson before he signs with Chicago.

  118. Scungilli Slushy says:

    jtblack: Agrred. Any of the 3.IMHO mgmt has to achieve the Balance photo. Then evaluate; the tinker and Add.

    Demers might be the most reasonable cost. Sakic probably will want to relive his big haul. There is no point spending anything on Faulk if he has a similar game to Schultz, that will not end well.

  119. VOR says:

    JimmyV1965:
    Hey LT, would you ever consider doing a write up
    on what you would do as a GM to improve the Oilers, for the short term and long term? I don’t think I have ever seen anything like that from you. Would also love to hear what other posters would do. There’s some pretty sharp people here.

    Last night I suggested a quiz for aspiring GMs. It came out of an exercise I have been doing for a while now. I pretend I have taken over Pete’s brain am now making the decisions for him.

    The first thing you learn is how much there is to know if you ever want to be a GM. Last night I proposed a post season purge of all the coaching staff and all the management but Keith and Pete himself. My new management team included a legend, Adam Oates, a face puncher (Tim Hunter), and two very young men William Kawam, and Trevor Georgie. Figuring out who I want and why took months of my spare time.

    What Keith and the other 4 AGMs share in common is they are all demonstrated innovators. That would be the message of hope I’d be selling to Oilers fans. As I put it last night, “we are going to innovate the shit out of hockey.”

    However, wholesale changes need to wait for the off season.

    As for what I’d do right now – I would go looking for home runs – long shots with huge upsides

    1. If he is healthy trade Pat Maroon – my original target was Carolina but they appear to be fading out of playoff contention. I have moved on to Boston. I’d love to get Anders Bjork and am going to ask for him. I expect to settle on Zach Senyshen. I am looking for upside potential not worrying about downside risk. For those of you who don’t know, Zach isn’t a fast skater he is a rocket on skates. That rocket comes equipped with a canon.

    2. Trade Mark Letestu – my target is Pittsburgh for their third or fourth rounder this year.

    3. Trade a 4th or 5th rounder to Detroit for a kid who passed his Last Chance Texaco and is stranded, out of gas, in the middle of nowhere (no offence Grand Rapids – I love you). Why on earth would I do such a thing. Well Matt Puempl’s resume looks like other big men who have finally had NHL careers when all hope seemed lost (Pat Maroon, Charlie Simmer, etc). There is one difference Matt can fly. The Oilers need to be faster and play faster – if Matt does become a career AHLer at least he will be an ungodly fast one.

    4. Trade Ryan Strome – originally I wanted Lawson Crouse from the Coyotes but his recent play in the AHL has probably made him untouchable. But I am sure the Coyotes want Ryan in the hope he can help unlock Dylan. I want Jens Looke straight up. He is another elite skater – not stunningly fast straight ahead he has an explosive first step, tremendous lateral movement, and is an aggressive forechecker. Plus he can stick handle in a phone booth.

    Then I would wait.

  120. OriginalPouzar says:

    Gayfish:
    I’d like to see Simpson before he signs with Chicago.

    FYI – Osterle has been removed for the top pairing, has been struggling and has recently been healthy scratched. Perhaps he was being zoomed by playing with one of the best d-men of the generation.

  121. jtblack says:

    Hold your Laughter: I predict Lucic scores today.

  122. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice to see Larsson back on the ice – poor guy!

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    Would love to see Jesse have a material offensive game this afternoon.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice work by the fourth line – nice vision by Letestu to set up Drake for a nice little break.

  125. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    bendelson: Curious to see what your ‘dictionary’ says about Russell…

    Married to Goldie Hawn … lucky bastard.

  126. godot10 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Would love to see Jesse have a material offensive game this afternoon.

    One absolute certainty is that Strome’s game will be immaterial.

  127. JD_Wry says:

    jtblack: I predict Lucic scores today.

    On which net?

    Oh nice, another early goal. Clearly they’re not focusing enough.

  128. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coyotes score on a deflection – may have been the first shot.

    No chance for Talbot after the third pairing gave the puck away.

  129. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Nix: This is solid.
    Two wingers that can move and play off the rush with McD.
    Two big lanky half court kids to play to Draisaitls strengths
    A slower, righty C that’s theorized will best work with Lucic while bumping down his minutes on the third line..
    Makes all kinds of sense. Throw in ‘bench Russell and run Nurse-Klefbom-Auvitu down the left side’ and voila.

    Sign me up, please.

  130. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10: One absolute certainty is that Strome’s game will be immaterial.

    Your thoughts on Strome mean nothing to me – you’ve proven to have no sense of reasonableness with respect to certain topics and have become insufferable to me (which is likely your intent with comments like that).

    I will now continue to enjoy watching my team play hockey.

    Good Day

  131. New Improved Darkness says:

    jtblack: 3 years is plenty of time

    On the other hand, our vigorously baffled “fire the bums!” mass marshmallow immolation hasn’t worked out in cold-crumbling-coke-for-xmas (again) Climate of Change for a lot longer than that.

    Brought to you by veteransexchange.com and whorepresents.com (both of which were once going concerns).

  132. Rebilled says:

    Talbot must be losing his mind on all these first shot goals.

  133. Confused says:

    Let’s see LB!

  134. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great board work by Puljijarvi and Lucic and Khaira was robbed on the ensuing chance.

  135. flyfish1168 says:

    just turn to the game. Down 1 already. Was it the 1st shot on Talbot again?

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another good shift for the fourth line.

    I like Caggulia on the fourth line as he’s a bottom 6 energy type player – this makes sense.

  137. godot10 says:

    flyfish1168:
    just turn to the game. Down 1 already. Was it the 1st shot on Talbot again?

    If you have to ask the question…. #Oilerism.

  138. Gayfish says:

    VOR: Last night I suggested a quiz for aspiring GMs. It came out of an exercise I have been doing for a while now. I pretend I have taken over Pete’s brain am now making the decisions for him.

    The first thing you learn is how much there is to know if you ever want to be a GM. Last night I proposed a post season purge of all the coaching staff and all the management but Keith and Pete himself. My new management team included a legend, Adam Oates, a face puncher (Tim Hunter), and two very young men William Kawam, and Trevor Georgie. Figuring out who I want and why took months of my spare time.

    What Keith and the other 4 AGMs share in common is they are all demonstrated innovators. That would be the message of hope I’d be selling to Oilers fans. As I put it last night, “we are going to innovate the shit out of hockey.”

    However, wholesale changes need to wait for the off season.

    As for what I’d do right now – I would go looking for home runs – long shots with huge upsides

    1. If he is healthy trade Pat Maroon – my original target was Carolina but they appear to be fading out of playoff contention. I have moved on to Boston. I’d love to get Anders Bjork and am going to ask for him. I expect to settle on Zach Senyshen. I am looking for upside potential not worrying about downside risk. For those of you who don’t know, Zach isn’t a fast skater he is a rocket on skates. That rocket comes equipped with a canon.

    2. Trade Mark Letestu – my target is Pittsburgh for their third or fourth rounder this year.

    3. Trade a 4th or 5th rounder to Detroit for a kid who passed his Last Chance Texaco and is stranded, out of gas, in the middle of nowhere (no offence Grand Rapids – I love you). Why on earth would I do such a thing. Well Matt Puempl’s resume looks like other big men who have finally had NHL careers when all hope seemed lost (Pat Maroon, Charlie Simmer, etc). There is one difference Matt can fly. The Oilers need to be faster and play faster – if Matt does become a career AHLer at least he will be an ungodly fast one.

    4. Trade Ryan Strome – originally I wanted Lawson Crouse from the Coyotes but his recent play in the AHL has probably made him untouchable. But I am sure the Coyotes want Ryan in the hope he can help unlock Dylan. I want Jens Looke straight up. He is another elite skater – not stunningly fast straight ahead he has an explosive first step, tremendous lateral movement, and is an aggressive forechecker. Plus he can stick handle in a phone booth.

    Then I would wait.

    The idea of bringing in young guys is absolutely fantastic. Especially if they have specialized skillsets. For example George Gankas coaches many golfers, and has a less archetypal swing method. He is also part of the new wave of coaches (in addition to QB coaches) who deeply consider body mechanics, and understand that there is no one perfect way to swing. I would like to see the oilers add a skills coach in this vein. I’m not sure exactly how well this fits Adam Oates.

    The most important part of bringing in the innovators is having open-minded leadership, who are willing to not only adapt, but think critically. Their advise on what was tried before is instrumental, but it is often difficult to get that information when they are set in their ways, or are too far out of touch to understand the changes.

    While I love what you are saying, I think we know Oilers management too well for such hope.

  139. OriginalPouzar says:

    flyfish1168:
    just turn to the game. Down 1 already. Was it the 1st shot on Talbot again?

    Yes but not Talbot’s fault – one where he pretty much had no chance – shot from the point deflected right in front of him. More of a function of the 3rd d-paring having full control of the puck and then giving it to the other team.

  140. JD_Wry says:

    godot10: If you have to ask the question….

    George would leave the meeting now.

  141. OriginalPouzar says:

    Some solid puck skills there from Lucic trying to enter the zone – sheesh!

  142. Sighduck says:

    Larsson is a breath of fresh air on the backend.

  143. flyfish1168 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Yes but not Talbot’s fault – one where he pretty much had no chance – shot from the point deflected right in front of him.More of a function of the 3rd d-paring having full control of the puck and then giving it to the other team.

    godot10: If you have to ask the question…. #Oilerism.

    It is in their head now every game.

  144. OriginalPouzar says:

    OTT about to beat the Rangers, that I like.

    Its imperative that the Panthers beat the flames tonight.

  145. Ben says:

    Sighduck:
    Larsson is a breath of fresh air on the backend.

    And here I thought I’d split my pants again.

  146. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    8 shots on goal, 5 from defenders and one each from Letestu, Drake and Zach. Pretty sure that’s not how you win this game.

  147. OriginalPouzar says:

    Not actually a terribly played period by the Oilers – they at least are trying today (the seemingly weren’t last game). Some tire fires in their own zone, one leading to the goal against as the 3rd pairing gave up possession and the Yotes put the puck on net.

    Talbot actually have a VERY good period – good rebound control and a 5-bell save at the end.

    Go Oilers!

  148. Confused says:

    What a change, clearly going for the lose

  149. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    JD_Wry: Oh nice, another early goal. Clearly they don’t give a shit.

    Ftfy

  150. EUR_OIL says:

    While I’m watching, I start thinking about Drai + Klef for OEL + Keller / Dvorak… Oilers would have (Drai’s) cap space to resign OEL in 2019… Not that bad…

  151. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    OTT about to beat the Rangers, that I like.

    Its imperative that the Panthers beat the flames tonight.

    I see where you’re going with this…

    Tank Oilers Tank!

  152. Woogie63 says:

    Does Montoya fit for the balance of the year?

    I would alternate Talbot and LB in the NHL for the balance of the season.

    Play Ellis in every game in the AHL.

    We will see future of goaltending at no risk.

  153. OriginalPouzar says:

    EUR_OIL:
    While I’m watching, I start thinking about Drai + Klef for OEL + Keller / Dvorak… Oilers would have (Drai’s) cap space to resign OEL in 2019… Not that bad…

    Except that OEL may not sign with the Oilers.

  154. Pouzar says:

    Gayfish: The idea of bringing in young guys is absolutely fantastic. Especially if they have specialized skillsets. For example George Gankas coaches many golfers, and has a less archetypal swing method. He is also part of the new wave of coaches (in addition to QB coaches) who deeply consider body mechanics, and understand that there is no one perfect way to swing. I would like to see the oilers add a skills coach in this vein. I’m not sure exactly how well this fits Adam Oates.

    The most important part of bringing in the innovators is having open-minded leadership, who are willing to not only adapt, but think critically. Their advise on what was tried before is instrumental, but it is often difficult to get that information when they are set in their ways, or are too far out of touch to understand the changes.

    While I love what you are saying, I think we know Oilers management too well for such hope.

    I’ve been golfing for 30 years and have seen and heard every instructor under the sun. GG is in my top 3 easily.

  155. Rebilled says:

    Does Slats have a son that he could puppet GM for?

    Maroon for Carter Hutton would be nice.

  156. OriginalPouzar says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: I see where you’re going with this…

    Tank Oilers Tank!

    I am absolutely not cheering for any sort of tank – I’m watching this game this afternoon hoping the Oilers will, firstly, play well and, also, win the game.

    At the same time, there is no harm in hoping for victories from those teams near the Oilers in the standings.

  157. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woogie63:
    Does Montoya fit for the balance of the year?

    I would alternate Talbot and LB in the NHL for the balance of the season.

    Play Ellis in every game in the AHL.

    We will see future of goaltending at no risk.

    I am highly confident Montoya is slated to be the NHL back-up next year – a job he’s established in and has been so for year. He simply needs to come in and play 18-23 games and generally give the team a chance to win. That he can do.

    No, he won’t push for the starter’s job – we could sign Mrazek in the off-season if we want that type of back-up, however, that will come with a cap hit of double (or more) that of Montoya and that is not affordable for this team.

    I don’t think Brossoit will be back with the organization next year – given the glut of goalies we will have at the pro level, he many not be qualified.

    Talbot, Montoya

    Ellis, Starret

    Wells

  158. EUR_OIL says:

    OriginalPouzar: Except that OEL may not sign with the Oilers.

    That is indeed something, the Oilers should find out in advance … 😉

  159. Confused says:

    Woogie63,

    Trade him for a third

  160. OriginalPouzar says:

    EUR_OIL: That is indeed something, the Oilers should find out in advance …

    They could get permission to discuss with OEL and his agent, however a new contract cannot be signed until July 1 so, no matter what OEL and his camp say, there is no guarantee he signs with the Oilers.

  161. OriginalPouzar says:

    Strome does make some nice little plays in the offensive zone.

  162. Crazy Pedestrian says:

    So I finally entered into Hunter’s oilers emergency death march.
    My pick = 75 points

    What you guys think? Too optimistic?

  163. Professor Q says:

    Did they not blow the whistle prior to the puck being shoved in?

  164. EUR_OIL says:

    OriginalPouzar: They could get permission to discuss with OEL and his agent, however anew contract cannot be signed until July 1 so, no matter what OEL and his camp say, there is no guarantee he signs with the Oilers.

    Sure. A certain risk would remain…

  165. exoilinxs says:

    That slashing call was suspect. McD takes 10 a game like that. Joke.

  166. JD_Wry says:

    Crazy Pedestrian: What you guys think? Too optimistic?

    Too early. I entered that contest too early.

  167. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Rebilled:
    Talbot must be losing his mind on all these first shot goals.

    He should be losing his job. A couple of times may be luck, but not this many. There aren’t many goalies playing behind rock solid deep teams.

    His game is very shaky and some sub NHL calibre technique issues keep popping up. It’s like goalie whack a mole, he whacks a weakness down and another pops up.

  168. JD_Wry says:

    If coaching doesn’t work out for Tocchet, he really should pursue detective work.

  169. Professor Q says:

    JD_Wry:
    If coaching doesn’t work out for Tocchet, he really should pursue detective work.

    Rick Tracy.

  170. Sighduck says:

    This game has looked like 2 bottom feeder teams so far

  171. JimmyV1965 says:

    VOR: Last night I suggested a quiz for aspiring GMs. It came out of an exercise I have been doing for a while now. I pretend I have taken over Pete’s brain am now making the decisions for him.

    The first thing you learn is how much there is to know if you ever want to be a GM. Last night I proposed a post season purge of all the coaching staff and all the management but Keith and Pete himself. My new management team included a legend, Adam Oates, a face puncher (Tim Hunter), and two very young men William Kawam, and Trevor Georgie. Figuring out who I want and why took months of my spare time.

    What Keith and the other 4 AGMs share in common is they are all demonstrated innovators. That would be the message of hope I’d be selling to Oilers fans. As I put it last night, “we are going to innovate the shit out of hockey.”

    However, wholesale changes need to wait for the off season.

    As for what I’d do right now – I would go looking for home runs – long shots with huge upsides

    1. If he is healthy trade Pat Maroon – my original target was Carolina but they appear to be fading out of playoff contention. I have moved on to Boston. I’d love to get Anders Bjork and am going to ask for him. I expect to settle on Zach Senyshen. I am looking for upside potential not worrying about downside risk. For those of you who don’t know, Zach isn’t a fast skater he is a rocket on skates. That rocket comes equipped with a canon.

    2. Trade Mark Letestu – my target is Pittsburgh for their third or fourth rounder this year.

    3. Trade a 4th or 5th rounder to Detroit for a kid who passed his Last Chance Texaco and is stranded, out of gas, in the middle of nowhere (no offence Grand Rapids – I love you). Why on earth would I do such a thing. Well Matt Puempl’s resume looks like other big men who have finally had NHL careers when all hope seemed lost (Pat Maroon, Charlie Simmer, etc). There is one difference Matt can fly. The Oilers need to be faster and play faster – if Matt does become a career AHLer at least he will be an ungodly fast one.

    4. Trade Ryan Strome – originally I wanted Lawson Crouse from the Coyotes but his recent play in the AHL has probably made him untouchable. But I am sure the Coyotes want Ryan in the hope he can help unlock Dylan. I want Jens Looke straight up. He is another elite skater – not stunningly fast straight ahead he has an explosive first step, tremendous lateral movement, and is an aggressive forechecker. Plus he can stick handle in a phone booth.

    Then I would wait.

    Great stuff VOR. You never disappoint.

  172. EUR_OIL says:

    Every time I see the Coyotes play, I ask myself what happened to the guy, the Oilers received for Tobias Rieder… What a fine depth winger he would be…

  173. Confused says:

    A sleepy afternoon……

  174. Cameron says:

    meanashell11,

    The advanced math is pretty clear that Backlund > Nuge

    He pushes the river despite being deployed against the elite,

  175. OriginalPouzar says:

    Paging McDavid – are you playing?

  176. OriginalPouzar says:

    1st line (minus Drai, plus Slep) finally shows up with a plus shift and draw a penalty.

  177. JimmyV1965 says:

    What’s the deal with the little tantrum there by Drai?

  178. JD_Wry says:

    At this point, Letestu on the PP smells like a coach wanting to get fired and just collect the cheque.

  179. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai is having himself one hell of an awful period.

  180. OriginalPouzar says:

    Ya, they called the penalty on the wrong team there…….

  181. OriginalPouzar says:

    Talbot has been the Oilers best player so far this afternoon.

    That’s not good and good all at the same time.

  182. OriginalPouzar says:

    Another great save by Talbot off a really nice PP play by the Yotes – game saver there.

  183. Woogie63 says:

    OriginalPouzar: I am highly confident Montoya is slated to be the NHL back-up next year – a job he’s established in and has been so for year.He simply needs to come in and play 18-23 games and generally give the team a chance to win.That he can do.

    No, he won’t push for the starter’s job – we could sign Mrazek in the off-season if we want that type of back-up, however, that will come with a cap hit of double (or more) that of Montoya and that is not affordable for this team.

    I don’t think Brossoit will be back with the organization next year – given the glut of goalies we will have at the pro level, he many not be qualified.

    Talbot, Montoya

    Ellis, Starret

    Wells

    If LB is leaving at the end of the year why is he playing so many games in Bakersfield?

  184. Confused says:

    Highlight of the period…..

    Kevin telling us RNH wins a FO

  185. Klima's_Bucket says:

    All these Islanders scouts at Oilers games.
    Islanders need a goalie.
    I’m nervous to see the return on Talbot after a down year of letting in early goals…

  186. Confused says:

    Woogie63,

    Bernier injured….. Calling Al perhaps a second

  187. Confused says:

    Klima’s_Bucket,

    Starting Skinner next year ….ballsy

  188. Mike Wazowski says:

    EUR_OIL:
    Every time I see the Coyotes play, I ask myself what happened to the guy, the Oilers received for Tobias Rieder… What a fine depth winger he would be…

    Every time I see a comment like this I remember that Rieder asked for a trade.

  189. Confused says:

    Trips to Safeway and Sobeys and who is taking out the trash.

    As always deep analysis from Gene

  190. OriginalPouzar says:

    Mike Wazowski: Every time I see a comment like this I remember that Rieder asked for a trade.

    Yup, he wasn’t going to sign and we were going to lose his rights.

  191. OriginalPouzar says:

    What a save by Raanta on Strome.

  192. OriginalPouzar says:

    I don’t understand why these guys can’t complete passes – there are some good hockey players that have lost the ability to pass – each 7 foot pass with no pressure and Klef puts it right in Slepy’s skates.

  193. OriginalPouzar says:

    Drai is having one of his worst games of the year. So many bad passes, probably approaching double digits.

  194. Rebilled says:

    No way we get this.

  195. Zelepukin says:

    no way the NHL kills the streak and calls this a goal.

  196. OriginalPouzar says:

    If this stands (ya right), Maroon scoring in front of scouts is perfection.

  197. OriginalPouzar says:

    Of course, no goal – shocker.

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