G59 2017-18: Bruins at Oilers

The youngsters arrived in waves, those young Boston Bruins of the 1960’s. In 66-67, Bobby Orr signaled a new tomorrow, along with fellow rookies Joe Watson (who would star for the Flyers), Bill Goldsworthy (who would do the same for the North Stars) and Gerry Cheevers. A year later it was Derek Sanderson and Glen Sather, followed by Wayne Cashman and Rick Smith. In 1969-70, the year Stanley saw dirty water, it was Jim Lorentz, Don Marcotte and Garnet Bailey. Every great team owns a grand pipeline of youth, and it is vital Edmonton’s general manager—no matter who is in that chair—begins laying pipe in a quick hurry.

THE ATHLETIC!

DIRTY WATER, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • February 2016: 3-6-0, goal differential -6 (6 points)
  • February 2017: 5-4-0, goal differential -1 (10 points)
  • February 2018: 2-6-1, goal differential -7 (5 points)
  • February 20, 2016: Colorado 3, Edmonton 2 (Source)
  • February 24, 2017: Washington 2, Edmonton 1 (Source)

Edmonton has some things going now, Cam Talbot is stopping pucks and Connor McDavid is going supernova. Even the penalty kill is having moments. If they can get some secondary scoring, 80 points may not be such a distant bell. Will that make a difference for Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan? Not sure, but a long losing coda that ends the season may well seal the fate of both men.

AFTER 58, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 22-30-6, goal differential -38 (50 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 31-19-8, goal differential +18 (70 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 24-30-4, goal differential -30 (52 points)
  • February 18, 2016: Minnesota 5, Edmonton 2 (Source)
  • February 18, 2017: Edmonton 3, Chicago 1 (Source)

A win tonight gets Edmonton some breathing room in the race with the 2015-16 Oilers. It’s insane they are here but that’s the story of this season. I projected the team to score 257 and give up 217 (+40), a small +4 increase on the team’s 2016-17 totals (243-207). The Oilers are currently 160-190 and on pace to finish 226-264, -38. There are hits and there are misses, and then there’s this season. How many observers predicted a goals-against increase of 57? Show me that link, I don’t think anyone saw that coming.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM FEBRUARY

  • At home to: Colorado, Tampa Bay (Expected 0-1-1) (Actual 1-0-1)
  • On the road to: Los AngelesAnaheimSan Jose (Expected 1-1-1) (Actual 0-3-0)
  • At home to: Florida (Expected 1-0-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Vegas, Arizona, Colorado (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 1-2-0)
  • At home to: Boston, Colorado (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, San Jose (Expected 0-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 5-6-3, 13 points in 14 games
  • Current results: 2-6-1, five points in nine games 

The trade deadline will come with the team in California, nice and close to the farm team should a recall be required. I don’t think the Oilers will make a major deal involving contracts with term at the deadline but there are interesting names being thrown out there. More in a minute.

Patrick Maroon is No. 4 and Mark Letestu No. 7 on the list currently, with a pile of players on the list that make sense for Edmonton. I’ll list Mike Hoffman, Max Domi, Jordan Kyrou, Nic Petan as attractive options for the Oilers, don’t have any specific trades in mind.

The Oilers could make this happen but the Senators would have to take back Milan Lucic. Lucic ($6M times five more years after this one) and the payoff would be Oscar Klefbom ($4.167M times five more years after this one). Erik Karlsson ($6.5M with one year left) and Bobby Ryan ($7.250M times four more years after this one) would be coming to Edmonton, meaning the Oilers take on $3.5 million in cap for the next three years but rid themselves of the final two seasons of Lucic. Perhaps Ottawa could retain some of the money. I don’t think it happens, makes no sense for Edmonton.

LOWDOWN WITH LOWETIDE

At 10 this morning, TSN1260. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, The Athletic. How quickly can the Oilers recover?
  • Scott Cullen, TSN. Jays, deadline, Olympics.
  • Ryan Holt, Bakersfield Condors play-by-play. Ethan Bear spiking.

10-1260 text, @Lowetide on twitter. See you on the radio!

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  1. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Caggulia loses a puck battle and the game……

    Now that was a cluster f*ck … the previous goal was just cluster foreplay.

  2. OriginalPouzar says:

    Oh well – tough loss but it was a fun game to watch.

    Don’t forget, CAN/FIN QF at 5:10 tomorrow morning – perfect timing, the exact time I get home from the gym and i have a nice 90 minutes of “Original Pouzar time” before the wife wakes up.

  3. Munny says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    The poor slashing call. The missed high stick on Drai. The missed interference/trip by Khudobin on McDavid.

  4. OilClog says:

    Out coached again, giggidy.

  5. Confused says:

    Full tank mode engaged, only Boston wanted points.

    Talbot played great hard result on him.

    Falling for D…..

  6. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar: McDavid did have a hattrick on that line last game but the point has merit – Jesse and Drake can swithc places.

    In fact, Drake can then switch places with Pakarinan for a game (although he is effective in a fourth line energy role).

    Ya, I think the solution comes at the deadline. Move Letestu out and it frees up options

    I just don’t think Caggiula is effective enough on either side of the puck to play long-term with McDavid. Fact is you are going to be going against the other team’s top players. He tries hard but he does not have the skill to outscore the opposition, nor the strength and defensive awareness to fight off the opposition like we saw on that last goal.

    Maroon looking like he has accepted there isn’t money to re-sign him and he is out of there soon doesn’t help, either.

    I just don’t see how tying McDavid’s ankles with two anchors is going to work. He can probably manage one anchor if he has at least one fast, effective winger (not necessarily a great scorer but someone that can hold his own).

  7. exoilinxs says:

    That loss is on TMac. Caggiula had no business being on McDavids wing. He was absolutely brutal tonight.

  8. Munny says:

    See y’all next game. Thanks for an enjoyable night, but the daytime threads have been so putrid, they should be packed into a cannon and fired into the sun.

  9. Wilde says:

    Dolan-Yamamoto with a near goal in the opening shift of the 3rd.

  10. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Munny:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    The poor slashing call. The missed high stick on Drai. The missed interference/trip by Khudobin on McDavid.

    Seriously? The Khudobin was a nothing play. No penalty there. The slashing definitely happened. Spooner sold it, sure, and he could have gotten called for embellishment. Missed high sticks happen all the time. I see one missed call, maybe.

    Nothing to get so upset about, imo. There just weren’t too many obvious calls tonight.

  11. wood99 says:

    Falling for Dahlin continues,somehow this feels like Groundhog Day for Oiler fans. I thought these days were over. What does the 2019 draft look like 😡😡😡😡

  12. Primetime says:

    OriginalPouzar: McDavid did have a hattrick on that line last game but the point has merit…

    Well not really…2 of the 3 goals came directly after plays by Leon…

  13. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    wood99:
    The Oilers break out ,rim the puck blindly. I wish I could make millions and still just put my head down and rim theFyucking puck blindly to know one.Tmac breakout 101. When are we getting rid of these clowns. There’s a pee wee team practicing somewhere where we might learn a thing or two about making a breakout pass tape to tape.

    That’s why I hesitate to jump on Klef and others a bit. I think the coaching has neutered this D group. Paul Coffey kind of alluded to it the other day–he thinks there’s talent there–just a gun shy group.

  14. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Munny:
    See y’all next game. Thanks for an enjoyable night, but the daytime threads have been so putrid, they should be packed into a cannon and fired into the sun.

    Take care!

  15. Pouzar says:

    Pouzar: In 113 min Caggiula is 40.55 CF% with Connor McDavid.

    Make it 39.37 CF% with Connor in 129:45 minutes.

  16. Pretendergast says:

    exoilinxs:
    That loss is on TMac. Caggiula had no business being on McDavids wing. He was absolutely brutal tonight.

    This is I think the right way to look at it. Caggiula should be played on the 4th line which his speed and role indicates he could be effective in. Stop trying to make him something he’s not and don’t cruciify the player for not succeeding in a role he can’t produce.

    Remember Schultz, learn the lesson, it’s the coaches job to fit players in effective roles.

  17. Wilde says:

    wood99:
    Falling for Dahlin continues,somehow this feels like Groundhog Day for Oiler fans. I thought these days were over. What does the 2019 draft look like 😡😡😡😡

    Fantastic in the top 3.

  18. StixMalone says:

    My only hope is Connor winning the Art Ross. Too bad he has no support…..

  19. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: McDavid did have a hattrick on that line last game but the point has merit – Jesse and Drake can swithc places.

    In fact, Drake can then switch places with Pakarinan for a game (although he is effective in a fourth line energy role).

    I don’t know what you do with JP. He looked awful tonight. Drake was awful too. Maybe put JJ up there.

  20. Dicky94 says:

    Pouzar,

    I really don’t know how TMac survives this unless it’s being pushed on him from Chia to showcase him. It boggles the mind.

  21. exoilinxs says:

    Pouzar,

    How is that possible and how does TMac not see that as a problem. What a poor deployment by the coach. Unbelievable that in a lost season we seem more concerned about Cags development over JP. Brutal.

  22. wood99 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I agree that they don’t seem confident,but that doesn’t give them a reason not to stand up at our blue line like almost every other team in the league does and take the body. Next game watch how many time we skate beside the opponent and never engage in our end. Oh and one hand on the stick all the time. WE ARE BADLY COACHED!!!!!!

  23. Pouzar says:

    Dicky94,

    exoilinxs,

    I have no idea what TMc is trying to accomplish.

  24. wood99 says:

    Wilde,

    So what your saying is we have chance!! 😂😂😂😂

  25. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    wood99:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    I agree that they don’t seem confident,but that doesn’t give them a reason not to stand up at our blue line like almost every other team in the league does and take the body. Next game watch how many time we skate beside the opponent and never engage in our end. Oh and one hand on the stick all the time. WE ARE BADLY COACHED!!!!!!

    Agree that there seems to be something (several things) off with the coaching this year.

  26. Wilde says:

    JimmyV1965: I don’t know what you do with JP. He looked awful tonight. Drake was awful too. Maybe put JJ up there.

    JP played with 55. All sins committed playing on that unit are forgiven.

  27. Pouzar says:

    Trading Nuge scares me even more now.
    It hasn’t been pretty without him.

  28. Wilde says:

    Chief teammate misses a tap in from a pass from Yamamoto.

  29. JimmyV1965 says:

    Pretendergast: This is I think the right way to look at it. Caggiula should be played on the 4th line which his speed and role indicates he could be effective in. Stop trying to make him something he’s not and don’t cruciify the player for not succeeding in a role he can’t produce.

    Remember Schultz, learn the lesson, it’s the coaches job to fit players in effective roles.

    +1000

  30. JimmyV1965 says:

    exoilinxs:
    Pouzar,

    How is that possible and how does TMac not see that as a problem. What a poor deployment by the coach. Unbelievable that in a lost season we seem more concerned about Cags development over JP. Brutal.

    I don’t think we would be helping JPs development putting him on the first line facing the toughest competition. Helping his development would be a huge challenge even for a good coach.

  31. Pouzar says:

    McDavid played 15:43 at 5-on-5 tonight.

    14:31 vs Chara
    12:36 vs McAvoy
    0:21 vs McQuaid

  32. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Pouzar:
    Trading Nuge scares me even more now.
    It hasn’t been pretty without him.

    I think the Oilers need a defensively aware, bigger LW with some speed for McDavid’s line. Doesn’t have to be an expensive scorer. Like a Maroon but faster. You know, like a Danton Heinen type, but a bit older perhaps. Where they can find that, who knows.

    The biggest problem on this roster to me remains: Can Lucic find his game again.

    Because $6m tied up in what he brings right now is a disaster of Titanic proportions.

  33. Dicky94 says:

    The line of Strome , JJ and Slepy are playing well together. Hopefully they play the shit out of them until the end of the season. Could be a really good 3rd line next year.

  34. JimmyV1965 says:

    Wilde: JP played with 55. All sins committed playing on that unit are forgiven.

    JP honestly looks lost out there. He doesn’t know what to do with the puck and he appears to get in the way of his linemates. Zero confidence.

  35. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: I don’t think we would be helping JPs development putting him on the first line facing the toughest competition. Helping his development would be a huge challenge even for a good coach.

    I would run him with Nuge in 3rd line minutes–let them get the defensive side of the game going first. JP has the acumen to do it.

  36. Wilde says:

    JimmyV1965: I don’t think we would be helping JPs development putting him on the first line facing the toughest competition. Helping his development would be a huge challenge even for a good coach.

    Puljujarvi has his best results with 97 regardless of competition, though.

    McDavid creates a bubble of shelter on his line for most players, only exception being Caggiula, and Cammaleri being able to drag him below 50% CF.

    14 forwards are above 50% with 97, 2 are below.

    Cammaleri with McDavid: 49.4%

    Caggiula: 40.7%.

    Yeah.

    Puljujarvi? 54.9%. The only better RW is Drai for McDavid.

  37. Wilde says:

    Pouzar:
    McDavid played 15:43 at 5-on-5 tonight.

    14:31 vs Chara
    12:36 vs McAvoy
    0:21 vs McQuaid

    He got caved against the Bruins top unit, and Todd McLellan didn’t try to run from the matchup at all, OR change up the wingers.

    Coaching his way out of his job, hopefully.

  38. rickithebear says:

    We’re nurse and Klefbom in the HD area on the GA.
    Thought I would ask before looking at compressed game.

  39. Pouzar says:

    Wilde: He got caved against the Bruins top unit, and Todd McLellan didn’t try to run from the matchup at all, OR change up the wingers.

    Coaching his way out of his job, hopefully.

    Like stiffing him with those linemates wasn’t enough.
    Holy F6ck how much more proof do we need on TMc?

  40. deardylan says:

    5pts in last 10

    Ottawa 13pts in last 10
    They should pass us very soon.
    Lets hope Montreal goes above us too.
    Will Buffalo, Arizona…not likely.

    Then we are in bottom 3 and have great chance for our 2nd generational player in last 5 years. Which we can immediately put up for the trade for a few more 1st round picks, prospects and 1-3 holes we can fill in current roster. 2018-2019 looking up!

  41. Gret99zky says:

    Pouzar:
    McDavid played 15:43 at 5-on-5 tonight.

    14:31 vs Chara
    12:36 vs McAvoy
    0:21 vs McQuaid

    Fire. The. Coach.

  42. Pouzar says:

    Gret99zky: Fire.The.Coach.

    It’s not like it was a Home game or anything.

  43. frjohnk says:

    rickithebear:
    We’re nurse and Klefbom in the HD area on the GA.
    Thought I would ask before looking at compressed game.

    Nurse was on the bench.
    If Russell would have blocked the pass from behind the net the puck would not have gone into the slot.

    Not blaming Russell as the player who should have had Kerri was Maroon who had a lazy coverage.

  44. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Pouzar: Like stiffing him with those linemates wasn’t enough.
    Holy F6ck how much more proof do we need on TMc?

    He doesn’t line match. We know this.
    So if you aren’t going to line match you need to go power vs power…not saddle your best player with ineffective wingers who neutralize McDavid’s game, too.

  45. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    frjohnk: Nurse was on the bench.
    If Russell would have blocked the pass from behind the net the puck would not have gone into the slot.

    Not blaming Russell as the player who should have had Kerri was Maroon who had a lazy coverage.

    Klef-Russell by eye have been very ineffective to me. Dunno.

  46. Pouzar says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): He doesn’t line match. We know this.
    So if you aren’t going to line match you need to go power vs power…not saddle your best player with ineffective wingers who neutralize McDavid’s game, too.

    Best dog whistle in hockey though.
    Think he’d call a few penalties?!?!?

  47. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Pretendergast: This is I think the right way to look at it. Caggiula should be played on the 4th line which his speed and role indicates he could be effective in. Stop trying to make him something he’s not and don’t cruciify the player for not succeeding in a role he can’t produce.

    Remember Schultz, learn the lesson, it’s the coaches job to fit players in effective roles.

    This coach expects to be given players that fit his system. He has no clue as to how to adapt his system to get the most out of the players he has. If you don’t fit where he wants to fit you, it’s the doghouse for you. Isn’t that painfully obvious at this point?

  48. Pouzar says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): He doesn’t line match.

    He was matching him up with Chara/McAvoy pretty good.

  49. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): I think the Oilers need a defensively aware, bigger LW with some speed for McDavid’s line. Doesn’t have to be an expensive scorer. Like a Maroon but faster. You know, like a Danton Heinen type, but a bit older perhaps. Where they can find that, who knows.

    The biggest problem on this roster to me remains: Can Lucic find his game again.

    Because $6m tied up in what he brings right now is a disaster of Titanic proportions.

    A lot of players find their games when the Oilers find a new coach. Even Milan.

  50. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Pouzar: It’s not like it was a Home game or anything.

    + 1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

  51. flea says:

    Maybe it’s McDavid who wants Caggs on his wing. The coach likely would talk to his players about their preferred linemates. McDavid probably has some extra pull in this regard.

  52. Pouzar says:

    flea:
    Maybe it’s McDavid who wants Caggs on his wing. The coach likely would talk to his players about their preferred linemates. McDavid probably has some extra pull in this regard.

    Mrs. Cagguila, I respectfully disagree.

  53. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    flea:
    Maybe it’s McDavid who wants Caggs on his wing. The coach likely would talk to his players about their preferred linemates. McDavid probably has some extra pull in this regard.

    I think you are crediting McDavid with a level of hockey stupidity that is inconceivable. He may not have the Corsi in his back pocket but I’m pretty sure he has noticed the tilt in the ice when Drake is on his wing. Pretty sure.

  54. OmJo says:

    flea:
    Maybe it’s McDavid who wants Caggs on his wing. The coach likely would talk to his players about their preferred linemates. McDavid probably has some extra pull in this regard.

    So in other words McDavid is a masochist.

  55. Wilde says:

    flea:
    Maybe it’s McDavid who wants Caggs on his wing. The coach likely would talk to his players about their preferred linemates. McDavid probably has some extra pull in this regard.

    That moment where Maroon looked off a streaking Caggiula to pass it to 97, who had his back to the net…

    We know for sure there’s at least one player who doesn’t want Caggiula on that line.

    But if 97 did ask for it, that would be both mind-blowing in the sense that he’d himself prefer the worst RW he’s ever played with, and in the sense that the coach who displays stubbornness time and again would fold so easily when it comes to his star player.

  56. Gret99zky says:

    Decidedly Skeptical Fan: This coach expects to be given players that fit his system.He has no clue as to how to adapt his system to get the most out of the players he has.If you don’t fit where he wants to fit you, it’s the doghouse for you.Isn’t that painfully obvious at this point?

    Painfully obvious.

    Very painful.

    The kind of pain you wish would end.

    The type that can no longer be endured.

    Fire. The. Coach.

    NOW!

  57. Mr. D. says:

    Geez finally had a lead and our defensive game collapsed again. Puck movers didn’t do it again. So time to get defensively responsible guys back.

  58. Wilde says:

    Vancouver also blew their lead and lost.

    The chilling tank war of 2018 continues.

  59. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    Gret99zky: Painfully obvious.

    Very painful.

    The kind of pain you wish would end.

    The type that can no longer be endured.

    Fire.The. Coach.

    NOW!

    Kidney stone level pain.

    Pass. The. Stone.

    NOW!

  60. Wilde says:

    Mr. D.:
    Geez finally had a lead and our defensive game collapsed again. Puck movers didn’t do it again. So time to get defensively responsible guys back.

    All three goals were missed assignments by the forwards.

  61. Wilde says:

    Our tanking foes are Ottawa, Vancouver and Montreal. Everyone else is 5+ points up or down.

    I’d say a key component in the war is whether or not Pacioretty, Hoffman, Karlsson, or Tanev go at the deadline.

  62. anduril says:

    JimmyV1965: JP honestly looks lost out there. He doesn’t know what to do with the puck and he appears to get in the way of his linemates. Zero confidence.

    Maybe that’s because TMc keeps moving him around in the lineup, from the top scoring unit to the second unit to the third unit and now to the fourth unit LW. No consistency. Kid makes one or two mistakes, has a bad game, and he gets demoted, even in-game. Lucic has a bad year and he stays firmly entrenched in the top 6. I’d like to know the TOI numbers for Cags v. JP v. Slepy, especially with McDavid, Drai, and/or RNH, and on the PP. My hunch is Cags is way ahead of the other two for Primetime assignments and I just don’t get that. To my mind, Cags is, at best, a 3rd line winger, maybe a 4th. He is an energy guy, who has not shown any high-end skills. Slepy and JP, while inconsistent, have those skills but the minute they fail a defensive assignment, they are punished and demoted. Guys like Cags, Lucic, and Russell can make the same or even more egregious mistakes and stay right where they are in the lineup or even get promoted?? Makes no sense. I’d be so confused right now if I was JP. I suppose TMc might say he’s trying to protect JP or managing his ice time because he can’t handle the rigours of the NHL schedule but I just don’t buy it. He’s confusing the hell out of him. Set him loose. Let him find his bread and butter at the NHL level, even if he makes some dumbass plays from time to time, and then when he’s doing what he knows how to do, work on his deficiencies. It’s not like Maroon, Lucic, Cags, and others are playing mistake-free games. How is JP any worse???

  63. anduril says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Agree that there seems to be something (several things) off with the coaching this year.

    Right from the get-go… seemed to me in pre-season that TMc came into camp with a surly attitude, like he was pissed about something.

  64. JimmyV1965 says:

    On the bright side. The Canucks and Habs both got points tonight.

  65. thehop says:

    StixMalone:
    My only hope is Connor winning the Art Ross. Too bad he has no support…..

    What Caggulia as your RW doesn’t count as support!???

  66. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Low on the list of nits to pick, but if I am McLellan as soon as that 2-1 goal bounces in I take a time out. Fragile psyche on the team a good coach calms them down, reminds the team they are ahead and preaches being responsible for your man and giving your best effort, and not sitting back defending a lead or playing too conservatively.

    As others pointed out missed assignments by floating or cheating forwards, lazy line changes, D giving up the blue line too easily, all of those things were in full effect.

    He must have been saving his precious timeout for a Coach’s Challenge. Oh wait…

  67. anduril says:

    Kris Knoblauch for HC? Rereading the article when the Flyers hired him, http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/flyers-hire-kris-knoblauch-assistant-coach-otters/

    Key points
    1. “You see in the NHL how key special teams are,” said Strome, the third pick in 2015 draft when McDavid went first. “He’s so good at special teams. They’re probably his go-to.”
    2. “He teaches a culture of winning and speed and puck movement, but he empowers all the kids.”
    3. Knoblauch deserves “a massive amount” of credit for turning the Otters into a junior hockey powerhouse and compared his style to that of Mike Babcock, the Stanley Cup- and two-time Olympic gold medal-winning coach of the Maple Leafs.
    4. “He’s always adapting,” Dave Brown said. “Kris is open-minded. He’ll do whatever it takes to adapt to his players and I think he’s always learning.”

  68. JimmyV1965 says:

    anduril: Maybe that’s because TMc keeps moving him around in the lineup, from the top scoring unit to the second unit to the third unit and now to the fourth unit LW. No consistency. Kid makes one or two mistakes, has a bad game, and he gets demoted, even in-game. Lucic has a bad year and he stays firmly entrenched in the top 6. I’d like to know the TOI numbers for Cags v. JP v. Slepy, especially with McDavid, Drai, and/or RNH, and on the PP. My hunch is Cags is way ahead of the other two for Primetime assignments and I just don’t get that. To my mind, Cags is, at best, a 3rd line winger, maybe a 4th. He is an energy guy, who has not shown any high-end skills. Slepy and JP, while inconsistent, have those skills but the minute they fail a defensive assignment, they are punished and demoted. Guys like Cags, Lucic, and Russell can make the same or even more egregious mistakes and stay right where they are in the lineup or even get promoted?? Makes no sense. I’d be so confused right now if I was JP. I suppose TMc might say he’s trying to protect JP or managing his ice time because he can’t handle the rigours of the NHL schedule but I just don’t buy it. He’s confusing the hell out of him. Set him loose. Let him find his bread and butter at the NHL level, even if he makes some dumbass plays from time to time, and then when he’s doing what he knows how to do, work on his deficiencies. It’s not like Maroon, Lucic, Cags, and others are playing mistake-free games. How is JP any worse???

    This is a lost season for the Oilers. We’re obviously not making the playoffs so every decision must have an eye towards the future. The development of JP is one of the greatest challenges facing this team.

    I happen to think he should get sheltered minutes. Maybe on a third line with RNH when he gets back or Drai, facing weaker competition. I think he should get a crapload of time on PP1. I don’t think the first line facing the toughest competition is the way to help his game.

    We’ve already screwed up his development. Every decision going forward should be focussed on this. His deployment should have nothing to do with Lucic, or the Drake or McDavid. Do what’s best for him.

  69. BeerMe says:

    deardylan:
    5pts in last 10

    Ottawa 13pts in last 10
    They should pass us very soon.
    Lets hope Montreal goes above us too.
    Will Buffalo, Arizona…not likely.

    Then we are in bottom 3 and have great chance for our 2nd generational player in last 5 years.Which we can immediately put up for the trade for a few more 1st round picks, prospects and 1-3 holes we can fill in current roster.2018-2019 looking up!

    There’s optimism, and then there’s delusion. There’s a time and a place to balance the negative discourse with hopeful comments. But we are in the nadir yet again, and there’s simply no reasonable way you can put a golden frame around this enormous shit pile of a season, without coming across as anything but being an optimist for the sake of it. Given what we’ve seen from this team, coaching staff, and management group, a bullish outlook for 2018-2019 is foolish, quite frankly.

    This franchise is 30 miles beyond fucked. We have a reckless clown at the helm, a tone-deaf coach, the prospect pantry has been looted, and the players have zero confidence and their level-of-effort has been abysmal.

    I eagerly await to see how you’re gonna spin the Nuge-for-magic-beans trade this summer.

    Nothing personal. I’m just jaded from being feebly optimistic myself for the last decade.

  70. anduril says:

    JimmyV1965: This is a lost season for the Oilers. We’re obviously not making the playoffs so every decision must have an eye towards the future. The development of JP is one of the greatest challenges facing this team.

    I happen to think he should get sheltered minutes. Maybe on a third line with RNH when he gets back or Drai, facing weaker competition. I think he should get a crapload of time on PP1. I don’t think the first line facing the toughest competition is the way to help his game.

    We’ve already screwed up his development. Every decision going forward should be focussed on this. His deployment should have nothing to do with Lucic, or the Drake or McDavid. Do what’s best for him.

    Sure, I have no problem with that approach. My only concerns are (a) a consistent assignment with a skilled centre (McDavid, Drai, or RNH, not Strome or Letestu or Khaira) and (b) let the kid make mistakes.Moving him up and down the lineup, to his off-wing, benching him in a game after one defensive mistake, etc. is craziness.

  71. Bling says:

    My observations:

    1) Credit where credit is due: Boston is a tremendous team and extremely well-coached. They move the puck quickly and effectively. I really like their cycle game — they are always trying to funnel towards the middle. They had lots and lots of chances from the slot. They fully deserved the two points, IMO.

    2) I liked the third and fourth lines.

    3) I hate to pile on, but Lucic is really labouring out there. I think Godot mentioned putting him on the 3rd line, giving him fewer minutes and easier comp. I think that’s the play right now. I really think we might be seeing the beginning of the end. This is now two seasons of deteriorating EV play by the eye test and by the numbers.

    4) Maroon should be traded ASAP.

    5) Leon and Connor are joys to watch. Every single game. Find those men some wingers!

  72. godot10 says:

    JimmyV1965: I don’t think we would be helping JPs development putting him on the first line facing the toughest competition. Helping his development would be a huge challenge even for a good coach.

    Play him with Draisaitl. Draisaitl is essentially playing by himself when he is playing with Lucic and Cammalleri.

  73. OriginalPouzar says:

    exoilinxs:
    That loss is on TMac. Caggiula had no business being on McDavids wing. He was absolutely brutal tonight.

    On the other hand, that line had 3 goals the previous game.

    Does Todd not get credit then for putting together the two bottom 6 lines that came in waves, shift after shift?

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Pouzar:
    McDavid played 15:43 at 5-on-5 tonight.

    14:31 vs Chara
    12:36 vs McAvoy
    0:21 vs McQuaid

    Ya, McLellan isn’t much of a line-matcher now, is he.

    Geez!

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Klef-Russell by eye have been very ineffective to me. Dunno.

    Kris Russell cannot play the right side in the top 4 – that’s a non-starter for me next year.

    It doesn’t work.

    It makes the team worse.

  76. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wilde:
    Vancouver also blew their lead and lost.

    The chilling tank war of 2018 continues.

    They grabbed a point at least.

  77. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar: Kris Russell cannot play the right side in the top 4 – that’s a non-starter for me next year.

    It doesn’t work.

    It makes the team worse.

    Agreed.

  78. deardylan says:

    BeerMe,

    “Nothing personal. I’m just jaded from being feebly optimistic myself for the last decade.”

    I feel your pain and don’t take it personally. Its only hockey. haha

    I followed closely in 80s-early 00s, haven’t been following closely over since Weight left. In the last decade only following since they started to draft 1st-10th players->1st round picks so I am a wee less jaded. Thrill of the draft: Hall, Nuge, Yakupov, Nurse, Dr.Drai, McDavid, Puj… We still have most of them on the team and 1st rounder Larsson with us and Russell that came close to same time as Yak was yanked.

    Dreaming of Names who will play with McDavid in next 1-2 years:

    McDavid & Dahlin destroying penalty kills
    McDavid & Zadina destroying defences
    McDavid & Tkachuk destroying his brother offense in Calgary
    McDavid & Boqvist become the bogeymen of goalies

    And if any of these players refuse to play during the cold winter of the Oilers like Lindros did lets put them on the bidding market…

    I love opposite ends of spectrum….lowest of lows or highest of highs. Don’t like the meh middle. Where you miss a playoff spot because you can never get better and end up middle of the road missing playoffs often. Or when you do you get swept in first round everytime.

    If Oilers are going to fail…then fail spectacularly. Which they are. At least for me it is more fun than middle of the pack.

    PS. I did follow Oilers when they had Weight on the team and weren’t doing so well because one day after an incredible game by him he was doing the interview on THE BICYCLE full speed… the guy was doing hardcore cardio right after the game to make sure he was better in the next game. WHAT!!! How cool is that. I was in LOVE with Weight right at that moment. Attitude of a True Winner in my mind and would support anyteam he played for. Either you are best in world or worst and giving your full ATTITUDE but meh, middle of pack, average is hell to me.

    That is why I follow this blog for the highs and lows.

  79. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar: On the other hand, that line had 3 goals the previous game.

    Does Todd not get credit then for putting together the two bottom 6 lines that came in waves, shift after shift?

    He does get credit for putting together two good bottom 6 lines. I gave him credit for that.
    The problem seems to be that in doing so, he kind of broke the top 6 lines. And the top 6 is much more critical.

    Also, that line did not have 3 goals, buddy.

    Two of them were Draisaitl with Maroon and McDavid–Draisaitl had the primary assist on both those goals. Caggiula was not on the ice.

    The first McDavid goal Caggiula was on the ice but was a complete non-factor in the play. He was floating through the middle, following the puck. At least Maroon crashed the crease and created the play that led to the McDavid goal.

    So, respectfully, you are wrong that that line had 3 goals. It had 1 goal, and Caggiula had nothing to do with it.

    Caggiula does not belong on McDavid’s wing. The Boston game was ample evidence of that.

  80. OriginalPouzar says:

    Really wish Maroon wasn’t playing his worst hockey as an Oiler right before the deadline.

    I wonder if his knee is hurting.

  81. deardylan says:

    Who is the Doug Weight in this draft that we can find in 2nd round in 2018…. A SMALL SIZED BIG HEART WINNER! (And he scored 104 pts for Oilers too without Gretzky, Messier or other superstars).

    EVEN BETTER THAN THE REAL THING
    Check out this short animated film for a true winner and even a true faker. haha. Does 0.31 and 1:26 make you laugh outloud like I did?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKMw2mAtdQM

    Of course ironically he had to play against us for Stanley Cup and win it with no shoulder left. DOH!

    Weight as a player you were worth your weight in gold!

  82. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    deardylan,

    Loved Dougie–the booing joke that was misunderstood was so unfortunate. He deserved so much love from this franchise and that was really the only silver lining for a heartbreaking end to 2006.

  83. knighttown says:

    Guys, there’s been about 35 posts with these themes;
    – 1st line having Caggs cost the team the game
    – 3rd line was amazing. I hope they roll them for the rest of the season or promote JJ or Anton
    – JP is being treated unfairly having to play 4th line instead of on Connors wing

    Not a single comment about the competition. That tends to be the flaw around here. We know our team and our game so assume it exists in a vacuum.

    Marchand-Bergeron-Pasta are downright assassins and very likely the best team in hockey. On the other hand, the rest of the forwards save Krejci are pretty much replacement level and or young guys.

    I continue to shake my head that people think Caggs and Lucic are getting “a push” or special treatment. Looks to me like they were in the role of sacrificial lambs and spent the night in their own zone trying to survive that dastardly Bergie line.

    Meanwhile JJ, Anton, Strome and JP spent entire shifts in the offensive zone. This isn’t playing with Stortini here. They get actual NHL players and get the soft underbelly of every NHL team. They should be thanking Connor, Leon, Lucic and Caggs and especially the coach.

    Oh, I think he should be fired for his special teams and for the horrendous starts but when you’ve got a hand of deuces and fives someone has to play way above their head.

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    anduril: Sure, I have no problem with that approach. My only concerns are (a) a consistent assignment with a skilled centre (McDavid, Drai, or RNH, not Strome or Letestu or Khaira) and (b) let the kid make mistakes.Moving him up and down the lineup, to his off-wing, benching him in a game after one defensive mistake, etc. is craziness.

    Except that never happened.

    The verbal re: Puljijarvi making one or two mistakes and getting demoted or benched is exaggerated and false.

    Up and till the last two games where Puljijarvi has played on the 4th line, his previous 8 games were on the 2nd/3rd line – He had 1 assist and was -8 in those 8 games with 6 minor penalties taken (5 in the offensive zone and the last in the last 5 minutes of a game down by 1).

    I saw him take his regular shift right after getting out of the box and even on PP2 right after serving a bad penalty.

    The coach expressed yesterday, that he believes Jesse is tired the last little while which is why they’ve reduced his ice a bit and he also wants to see him on his off wing.

    I’m not going to say that I agree with him being on the 4th line (that is 100% where Drake should be), however, the verbal re: one mistake and demoted or benched just isn’t the case.

  85. OriginalPouzar says:

    Tight checking first period – partially a function of the ridiculously wide ice leading to the puck being so far from the goal – I hate the big ice, can lead to very low event games.

  86. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Tight checking first period – partially a function of the ridiculously wide ice leading to the puck being so far from the goal – I hate the big ice,can lead to very low event games.

    It’s ok when you have great skill out there, but when you don’t, it’s easy for teams to play to the outside and trap and play a boring game and stay in games–allows more chances for a weak team to upset a stronger team.

  87. Wilde says:

    knighttown:

    Not a single comment about the competition. That tends to be the flaw around here. We know our team and our game so assume it exists in a vacuum.

    Wilde: He got caved against the Bruins top unit, and Todd McLellan didn’t try to run from the matchup at all, OR change up the wingers.

    Coaching his way out of his job, hopefully.

    presented without comment

  88. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    knighttown,

    There are quite a few comments giving credit to Boston. “not a single comment” is factually incorrect. Boston was the better team and deserved the win. Coach, however, made it harder with some of his decisions.

  89. Rebilled says:

    Rifle.

  90. Spooky Lynx says:

    Lander scores to make it 2-1 Germany. Assists by Dahlin and Omark.

    I think this means Rasmus is destined to be an Oiler.

  91. Pouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar: Ya, McLellan isn’t much of a line-matcher now, is he.

    Geez!

    There is a difference between “not line matching” and “taking bribes”.

    Fire TMc and his assistants to the sun.

  92. OriginalPouzar says:

    74 seconds left, Canada up 1-0 – some great defensive plays from Roy and Borque in the last few minutes.

  93. OriginalPouzar says:

    Solid game by Canada today.

    Here is hoping GER/SWE does NOT go to a shootout.

  94. Rebilled says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Guess not!

  95. anduril says:

    OriginalPouzar: Except that never happened.

    The verbal re: Puljijarvi making one or two mistakes and getting demoted or benched is exaggerated and false.

    Up and till the last two games where Puljijarvi has played on the 4th line, his previous 8 games were on the 2nd/3rd line – He had 1 assist and was -8 in those 8 games with 6 minor penalties taken (5 in the offensive zone and the last in the last 5 minutes of a game down by 1).

    I saw him take his regular shift right after getting out of the box and even on PP2 right after serving a bad penalty.

    The coach expressed yesterday, that he believes Jesse is tired the last little while which is why they’ve reduced his ice a bit and he also wants to see him on his off wing.

    I’m not going to say that I agree with him being on the 4th line (that is 100% where Drake should be), however, the verbal re: one mistake and demoted or benched just isn’t the case.

    Disagree. I’ve watched the games and seen it multiple times. 27-29-98 has a great game followed by a bad one and they were done as a unit. JP was replaced several times by LD in games when he played on the McDavid line. JP is on a short leash and putting at 4th LW makes no sense.

  96. Confused says:

    Maroocn not on the ice at practice

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