Anton Slepysev: Winning

In any given NHL game, there are 60 minutes given out by the coach for each position. There are five skaters on the ice, so the potential (no penalties) of 300 skating minutes in a regulation NHL game. Last night, the Oilers gave about 57 minutes to youngsters auditioning. Update: Anton Slepyshev is winning.

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LITTLE PEGGY MARCH, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • March 2016: 1-0-0, goal differential +1 (2 points)
  • March 2017: 1-0-0, goal differential +1 (2 points)
  • March 2018: 0-1-0, goal differential -2 (0 points)

Oilers had a lead and then were tied and then lost the game while auditioning youth. I am here to tell you it’s the right thing to do. I may not agree with the deployment (Jesse Puljujarvi is the only one that matters) but cannot push back against the idea of giving these kids a chance to show what they can do at the NHL level.

AFTER 64, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 23-34-7, goal differential -45 (53 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 34-22-8, goal differential +17 (76 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 27-33-4, goal differential -34 (58 points)

One of the things I’m looking forward to is just how quickly the 16-17 team goes from 75 points to 100. Man, that was fun. This year’s team needs to go on a run and the schedule maker has some possibilities ahead but the real fun was last year’s hockey team. Need to get back to that.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM MARCH

  • At home to: Nashville, NY Rangers, Arizona, NY Islanders, Minnesota (Expected 2-3-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • On the road to: Calgary (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: San Jose (Expected 0-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Florida, Tampa Bay, Carolina, Ottawa (Expected 1-2-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • At home to: Los Angeles, Anaheim, Columbus (Expected 2-1-0) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • On the road to: Vancouver, Calgary (Expected 1-0-1) (Actual 0-0-0)
  • Overall expected result: 6-7-3, 15 points in 16 games
  • Current results: 0-1-0, 0 points in one game

DEFENSE, LAST NIGHT

  • Klefbom-Benning went 11-13, 1-0 in 15:07 on the night. I like the pairing, mobile and good passers. Kind of a modern prototype. I still think Klefbom needs Larsson and vice versa. Went 13-6 against Forsberg-Johansen-Hartman which I count as the No. 1 line. A good night, save for the Watson goal (he got beat clean).
  • Sekera-Bear went 11-13 in 10:27, 0-2 GF. Bear was -3 but the only goal that was really on him was the second one, just before the end of the period. Sekera sent a horrible pass in the range of Strome on the first goal, he had all kinds of better choices. The veteran isn’t right. Still, Bear made numerous rookie mistakes and is clearly going to need more time, but it was nice to see him get an NHL look. Went 4-9 against Hartnell-Bonino-Jarnkrok.
  • Nurse-Russell were 15-30, 0-2GF in 17:28. Lordy. Were 10-9 and 0-1 GF against the Johansen line, 4-11 against Arvidsson-Watson. Outlet passes were poor for both men to my eye, unusual for Nurse. Nurse had two HDSC, I believe both came on the same shift. Russell looked slower than usual, might have been an optical illusion.
  • Cam Talbot stopped 37 of 41, .902. I thought he was once again solid.
  • NaturalStatTrick and NHL.com.

FORWARDS, LAST NIGHT

  • Caggiula-Khaira-Pakarinen were an effective unit, going 11-10 in 9:30. Pontus Aberg-Khaira were 6-0 in 1:46 and that’s a story to follow. Khaira was 10-3 in 2:55 against Johansen, which is incredible. Quiet offensively but the line had the puck going in a good direction. Pakarinen had the quietest six-shot game I have ever seen.
  • Cammalleri-Draisaitl-Aberg went 12-10 in 12:12, good line with lots of positives despite not scoring. Line was 6-4 in scoring chances and of course Leon scoring a screamer of a goal. The man is impossible to overcome when he’s on. He had trouble against Nashville but that defense are stern. Rangers won’t be able to handle him Saturday.
  • Puljujarvi-Strome-Kassian went 12-16 (JP) and 9-12 (Kassian) while posting 0-1 GF. I thought Puljujarvi had some moments last night, didn’t cash but he was involved quite a bit. Strome had some promising moments as well but did not look good on the first Nashville goal.
  • Lucic-McDavid-Slepyshev were 15-26 (Lucic) and 13-24 (Slepyshev). High event line was 1-2 on the evening at 5×5, McDavid’s goal was crazy from start to finish. Slepyshev did some things, he can make a pass when he’s of a mind to do so. Lucic kept getting set up and drilling it into the crest, he’s in a deep slump for sure. This will be wildly unpopular but that was the best game by Lucic in a long time.

ETHAN BEAR

Lots to like by my eye, he passed well and didn’t lose confidence despite some struggles. More capable skater than the scouting reports have suggested, hope we get to see him again soon. I don’t think Andrej Sekera is right, so having him as Bear’s partner was a mistake.

RE 17-18 PRIME CLUSTER

There are 99 goals projected over 82 games. How close is the prime cluster to reaching expectations?

  • RNH is 46gp, 16-15-31 .674. He is three points ahead of my prediction and five goals ahead of my projections. Nuge was enjoying a quality season before his injury.
  • Oscar Klefbom is 60gp, 3-14-17 .283. He is 17 points off my projection and that’s a very large number. He has been hurt and when he isn’t doing that he’s playing hurt. Nine goals from par.
  • Ryan Strome is 64gp, 12-18-30 .469. He is four points behind projection and minus four in goals. A reminder I had Strome spending 30 percent of his season with McDavid, so these numbers are solid.
  • Anton Slepyshev is 34gp, 5-5-10 .294. He trails projection by two points and is on pace for goals this year.
  • Matt Benning went 59gp, 4-11-15 .254. That’s six points below par for this point in the season, one goal behind projection.
  • Zack Kassian is 62gp, 7-9-16 .258. He trails the points race by five and goals by two.
  • Drake Caggiula is 50gp, 8-6-14 .280. He trails points by two and goals by one.
  • Adam Larsson is 47gp, 3-5-8 .170. He trails points by three, has one more goal than expected.
  • Jujhar Khaira is 51gp, 10-8-18 .353. He is ahead on points by 12, goals by seven!
  • Laurent Brossoit is 13gp, 3.22 .886. He is off his GA projections by seven goals.

Those 99 goals in 82 games projects to 77 goals in 64 games. This group has scored 68 goals, meaning they trail my projections by 16 goals (when including Brossoit’s work). A reminder, the McDavid cluster (we covered it yesterday) trails their projections by just two goals. The prime cluster is having a tough time meeting expectations. Tomorrow: The veteran group. Stand back!

ANTON SLEPYSHEV

Is winning. It took forever for him to get healthy and by then he was shrapnel in a long and disappointing season. At some point, probably due to lack of alternatives, the decision was made to give him a push. Three games now with McDavid and the results are beginning to show. Here is God’s flashlight this morning (5×5 points-per-60 by forwards):

  1. Connor McDavid 3.00
  2. Leon Draisaitl 2.57
  3. Mike Cammalleri 2.12
  4. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 1.80
  5. Jujhar Khaira 1.66
  6. Ryan Strome 1.64
  7. Anton Slepyshev 1.52
  8. Milan Lucic 1.52
  9. Anton Slepyshev 1.52

The 1.52 total represents a lot of recent success (he was trailing by a lot most of the season). If the Oilers get Slepyshev and Puljujarvi rolling now through season’s end that would be a helluva useful final leg of 2017-18.

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139 Responses to "Anton Slepysev: Winning"

  1. Woogie63 says:

    I agree Slepyshev is earning his play time. Not sure he is earning 1RW time, I see him as a solid option for a 2/3 RW or LW on a good team.

  2. thehop says:

    Happy to see Slepy in a spot to succeed. I like his game and I hope the points and good play continue. This guy is exactly what the Oilers need in multiples going forward.

    Godot is pleased I suspect.

  3. pboy says:

    I get that people want Mclellan out and he’s making some very questionable decisions. But unless Chiarelli is out at the same time, it’s going to be Chiarelli choosing the replacement head coach. Who’s comfortable with him making that call?

  4. OriginalPouzar says:

    Nice to see Slap with 15 ES minutes and another point.

    Would like to see him on the left wing more but there is only so much we can hope for.

  5. texmex says:

    Did anyone see this tweet from Rishaug? TMac instilling confidence is his group. I guess you can’t come back from 2 down with 3 minutes to go. Ask LA and ANA.

    Ryan Rishaug

    Verified account

    @TSNRyanRishaug
    11h11 hours ago
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    Notable, Oilers down by 2 with 3:10 left, chance to pull goalie and try and get one. McLellan chose not to, said they weren’t winning many face offs, that they’d given up some empty netters lately and the losses felt worse.

  6. OriginalPouzar says:

    “Rookie Blue looking like Rookie Blue” – well said.

    You can see the potential there – he things the game well, has nice offensive instincts and is a great passer – hopefully he can improve his skating because that is a real thing that could take an NHL career away from him.

    He’ll play again on Saturday I’m sure – I’m looking forward to seeing how he does against a lesser team.

    Very confident he’ll be back to Bakersfield after Saturday night and when Larsson returns – he’ll have had a great experience, some cash in his pocket and the knowledge of how hard he’ll have to keep working to make it at this level.

    He’s not ready yet but he has the skills – I think he has the work ethic to make it happen – A full season plus 20 games away still, I believe.

  7. OriginalPouzar says:

    Last night (and his month off) shows how important Larsson is to this lineup.

    Yes, we can talk about Larsson without regard to the Hart Trophy candidate playing in Jersey.

    Larsson is huge for this team – he makes the defensive group, as a group, much better. He is hard to play against, nasty and a plus defender who can transition the puck adequately and is smart when activating offensively.

    I look forward to seeing Bear against a lesser team in the Rangers on Saturday night but, ultimately, look forward to getting Larsson back in the lineup.

    If we could somehow find a legit 1RD to allow Larsson to play 2RD – that would be an amazing defensive set up. That’s a fantasy though and another 1/2RD that can move the puck and share the top 4 duties with Larsson would go a long long ways.

  8. Andy Dufresne says:

    I think the real auditions right now and in the next 6 weeks are Klefbom and Talbot.

    Sleppy and the others will be here in Sept.

    Oscar has had a sub-par year and has a history of injuries. He desperatley needs Larsson but Larsson does not need him.

    If Oscar doesnt pick it up over the next six weeks he is putting himself at huge risk.

    Think about it and decide for yourself. The Oilers are telegraphing a move to us NOW. There is an above average chance that they are going shopping for a 2RHD in the summer….IF ITS YOU who has to make this trade who are you moving Klefbomb or RNH…..and dont come back with the Tambellini line…”Neither”….make the tough choice…whos it gonna be…..Good Luck Oscar….shit seasons have consequences. ( Karma for blasting Hall?)

  9. OriginalPouzar says:

    Cammy might be coming off his hot-streak a bit now (assist wise) but 2.12? That is a sublime number and I don’t believe he has had much time with McDavid, has he?

    Do you think he’s willing to re-sign in Edmonton in the first instance? For similar money, $1M?

    I think he could be a go re-sign – a versatile player for the middle six and a veteran presence.

    Is there some value in a mentorship for Yamamoto as a successful small and skilled winger?

    Of course, Cammy isn’t a long term option for this team but he could be a decent stop-gap player that could provide value for a nominal cap hit – hold a spot for Yamamoto’s continued development…..

  10. OriginalPouzar says:

    Woogie63:
    I agree Slepyshev is earning his play time.Not sure he is earning 1RW time, I see him as a solid option for a 2/3 RW or LW on a good team.

    My preference is to have Slep play 3LW with Strome as 3C.

    They’ve got good numbers together and seemed to be developing chemistry. I think Anton is better suited to the middle six than a top line role.

  11. Psyche says:

    When Nuge gets back which forward comes out?

    I’d like to see a few games with the forward lines as (L-C-R):
    Nuge-McDavid-Slepyshev
    Cammalleri-Draisaitl-Aberg
    Lucic-Strome-Puljujarvi
    Caggiula-Khaira-Pakarinen

    The top 2 lines are interchangeable since most of them can play their off-wing. So if Nuge doesn’t work on the wing, he can be swapped with anyone on the 2nd line and moved to centre.

    I’d give Kassian a rest and keep in Pakarinen due to his PK ability.

  12. JimmyV1965 says:

    I was wondering why the hell Tmac was playing Bear with Sekera and then I looked at the other options. Klef? Or Nurse on the top pairing? Ouch!! Maybe they should have brought up his regular partner from the AHL.

  13. Andy Dufresne says:

    As for Talbot. He too has to out-perform in the final six weeks. Hes had good showing s in 4 of his last 5 games so thats good on him.

    But if he doesnt start outright winning a game or two down the stretch then theres a chance the GM goes shopping for an up and comer that can play bakcup next year while seriously challenging Talbot for the starters role or at least a tandem situation. This helps establish options when considering Talbots renewal next year.

  14. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Cammy might be coming off his hot-streak a bit now (assist wise) but 2.12?That is a sublime number and I don’t believe he has had much time with McDavid, has he?

    Do you think he’s willing to re-sign in Edmonton in the first instance? For similar money, $1M?

    I think he could be a go re-sign – a versatile player for the middle six and a veteran presence.

    Is there some value in a mentorship for Yamamoto as a successful small and skilled winger?

    Of course, Cammy isn’t a long term option for this team but he could be a decent stop-gap player that could provide value for a nominal cap hit – hold a spot for Yamamoto’s continued development…..

    I think hes a nice option to have as a late summer addition to the 2018 roster. After we see what trades occur over the summer and what roster holes are left as a result.

    I anticipate the adds will be RHD and substantial goalie. We draft an NHL ready (or not) Forward. Hopefully top 3.

    Zadina or Svechnikov. So chance are probably 50/50 on Camo making a return appearance.

  15. Oilman99 says:

    Woogie63:
    I agree Slepyshev is earning his play time.Not sure he is earning 1RW time, I see him as a solid option for a 2/3 RW or LW on a good team.

    You have to have a true 1rw before dropping Slep down,there is nobody else pushing for the job.

  16. Richard S.S. says:

    I’m perfectly happy with whatever Peter Chiarelli does, because I think he’s the right man for the job. Your opinion may differ, I don’t care all that much. People who hate are generally incapable of being objective, and almost never understand a differing opinion.

    Every time Connor McDavid scores early and first, the Oilers go out of the way to very try very hard to lose the game. Too often just that very thing happens. The Oilers do not really know what to do with a lead because they rarely manage keep it. This is not the responsibility of the GM, nor is it the responsibility of the Coach. This is 100% the responsibility of the players. They are good enough to win, but do they want it more than anything else?

  17. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: My preference is to have Slep play 3LW with Strome as 3C.

    They’ve got good numbers together and seemed to be developing chemistry.I think Anton is better suited to the middle six than a top line role.

    +1

  18. JimmyV1965 says:

    I asked this question a few days ago. To what extent does a team take on the personality of its coach? If the coach is always passive and doesn’t bring any fire and passion to his position as leader, does that filter through to the players? I saw Cooper absolutely lose it on the bench last night and have never seen any emotion like that from our coach.

    It seems to me this team plays well and then completely loses its composure over singular events. If the coach doesn’t believe in his players, will the players believe in themselves?

    I’m probably over thinking this and looking for reasons to distrust the coach.

  19. Oilman99 says:

    OriginalPouzar: My preference is to have Slep play 3LW with Strome as 3C.

    They’ve got good numbers together and seemed to be developing chemistry.I think Anton is better suited to the middle six than a top line role.

    Slep has the speed and aggressiveness to play up the lineup. There is nobody to push him down the lineup at this time. The team is gutted of wingers.

  20. prefonmich says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    +2
    Only problem is, and this is so very Oilers, that there is no 1RW in the lineup currently, just like there is no 1RD in the lineup so Larsson plays there, and no 1LW so Lucic plays there.
    As an aside, I have been yelling Lucic’s name loudly at the tv for quite a while now, mostly in frustration at his errant passes and missed open nets but his game last night was $6 million worth (if repeated x82) without a goal. He played HIS game and impacted the game in a positive way with it… now only if he could get the goal scoring monkey off his back, Connor could go back to not spending his entire shift looking for Milan to pass to!

  21. OriginalPouzar says:

    Psyche:
    When Nuge gets back which forward comes out?

    I’d like to see a few games with the forward lines as (L-C-R):
    Nuge-McDavid-Slepyshev
    Cammalleri-Draisaitl-Aberg
    Lucic-Strome-Puljujarvi
    Caggiula-Khaira-Pakarinen

    The top 2 lines are interchangeable since most of them can play their off-wing. So if Nuge doesn’t work on the wing, he can be swapped with anyone on the 2nd line and moved to centre.

    I’d give Kassian a rest and keep in Pakarinen due to his PK ability.

    Caggulia or Pak should be the first options out – unlikely it would be Caggulia.

    Coach was asked yesterday about playing Nuge on the wing and coach said it was indeed an option, however, he is likely to play him at center immediately upon his return to help him get his game back as its his natural and comfortable position.

    I would like to see:

    Nuge/McDavid/Puljijarvi
    Lucic/Drai/Cammalleri
    Slep/Strome/Aberg
    Caggula/Khaira/Kassian

  22. Wilde says:

    Cammaleri is a very good option for one of the 3 wingers we need to get.

    We know he’ll be willing to play here, be cheap, and seems to be able to round out every unit he’s on.

    They’re more familiarity and less risk with him than most other pending UFA options.

  23. prefonmich says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    One big issue with Caggiula I see is he has no defensive awareness. He is good in the offensive end but makes poor reads and is out of position in the d zone. I feel Kassian is the same. Both these guys, as 4th line players, need to have some defensive conscience and an ability to PK to get more ice time.

    McLellan is a coach that plays his top players heavy time and uses PK in particular to supplement ice time for bottom 6 players. Kassian and Caggiula have been horrible on the PK this year.

    I would prefer Pakarinen over Caggs because of this. He has some offense to him with a wicked shot and is excellent on the PK and smart defensively. Kassian is just inconsistent, you never know which guy will come out to play. He can go from a dominant force to a lazy player who turns pucks over at the wrong time and place.

  24. HiddenDarts says:

    Anyone see those passes from Bear? I like. In fact, outside of that one goal I didn’t really see him that bad. I also thought his skating was far better than people have been saying. Could be that he was partnered with Sekera, who looks a lot like late period Ryan Whitney at this point.

    Good game, I thought. The third period was waaayyy too loosey-goosey. Aberg looks like a player as well.

    Nice to be able to watch reasonable quality hockey again.

  25. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wilde:
    Cammaleri is a very good option for one of the 3 wingers we need to get.

    We know he’ll be willing to play here, be cheap, and seems to be able to round out every unit he’s on.

    They’re more familiarity and less risk with him than most other pending UFA options.

    Do we know he’ll be willing to play here?

  26. dustrock says:

    Journal said Klefbom got a cortisone shot in his shoulder about a week ago.

    Why in the Sam Hill are they playing an injured player with a history of injuries who is on a fantastic contract?

    Why isn’t the media asking about this

  27. exoilinxs says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    After Chiarelli gives a 4 year 4 mil per contract he probably will. He wouldn’t…..?

  28. prefonmich says:

    Seems like we haven’t discussed Chia’s trades in a little while… said with a hint of sarcasm. I was looking over the top 30 scorers today as it is one thing I have left to hope for that McDavid wins the scoring title this year.

    Anyway, I noticed a few familiar names and did a quick calculation. Inconceivably, almost 20% (5/30) of the top 30 scorers this year have been traded away by Chiarelli in either Boston or Edmonton.

    Exactly 0% of the return players in those deals are anywhere near top 30. This is the GM with his tight job security in Edmonton. To be fair, I really like what Adam Larsson brings to the Oilers defense just not at the price that was paid.
    Can you list the 5?
    1. Phil the thrill
    2. Blake the best captain in hockey (says Mark Schiefle and I believe him)
    3. Tyler the party boy
    4. Taylor dressing room poison
    5. Matt Barzal (we wouldn’t have drafted him anyway so this one doesn’t really count, I guess)
    Wonder who is next to go?

  29. godot10 says:

    //Oilers had a lead and then were tied and then lost the game while auditioning youth.//

    Since when are Kassian and Russell “auditioning youth”. Both were primarily responsible for the 3rd goal against.

  30. godot10 says:

    prefonmich:
    Seems like we haven’t discussed Chia’s trades in a little while… said with a hint of sarcasm. I was looking over the top 30 scorers today as it is one thing I have left to hope for that McDavid wins the scoring title this year.

    Anyway, I noticed a few familiar names and did a quick calculation. Inconceivably, almost 20% (5/30) of the top 30 scorers this year have been traded away by Chiarelli in either Boston or Edmonton.

    Exactly 0% of the return players in those deals are anywhere near top 30. This is the GM with his tight job security in Edmonton. To be fair, I really like what Adam Larsson brings to the Oilers defense just not at the price that was paid.
    Can you list the 5?
    1. Phil the thrill
    2. Blake the best captain in hockey (says Mark Schiefle and I believe him)
    3. Tyler the party boy
    4. Taylor dressing room poison
    5. Matt Barzal (we wouldn’t have drafted him anyway so this one doesn’t really count, I guess)
    Wonder who is next to go?

    The Chiarelli line makes its Edmonton debut at Rogers Place in less than a week.

    #ItWasBarzalAllAlong

  31. Woogie63 says:

    Oilman99: Slep has the speed and aggressiveness to play up the lineup. There is nobody to push him down the lineup at this time. The team is gutted of wingers.

    I see Puljujarvi moving up the line up to play with more skill and Slepyshev more successful in the middle of the line up… next year.

    Hopkins-McDavid-xxx
    Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
    Slepyshev-Strome-Yamamoto
    Caggiula-Khaira-Kassian

    1. Gives McDavid fast talent to play with
    2. Gives Draisaitl a shooting talent winger
    3. Puts Slepyshev and Yamamoto in a safer place to succeed
    4. Fast, tough good forechecking 4th line
    5. 4 value contracts

  32. prefonmich says:

    godot10,

    Simply depressing.

  33. JustWatt says:

    prefonmich,

    I agree with your line of thinking a lot. I really don’t see anything in Caggiula beyond a replacement level player and I don’t believe he should be on this team next season if the GM has done his job. At the very least Pak can play the same position, score about as much and can PK. Kassian doesn’t make 4th line money and doesn’t contribute on the PK. I think his talents have been buried a lot by playing with Latest so he has the rest of the season to prove he’s a 3rd line RW. If he’s not, ship him out at the draft and hire a guy for half price that can PK.

  34. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sounds like there is a better than even chance Nuge returns to the lineup on Saturday.

    Now, before we get ahead of ourselves hoping for Nuge to be 1LW and spew vitriol when it doesn’t happen, coach expressly acknowledged the possibility yesterday but expressed the likelihood he’d start at center upon his return to the lineup as that is the position he’s comfortable with and it will help him re-find his game.

  35. JustWatt says:

    Woogie63: I see Puljujarvi moving up the line up to play with more skill and Slepyshev more successful in the middle of the line up… next year.

    Hopkins-McDavid-xxx
    Lucic-Draisaitl-Puljujarvi
    Slepyshev-Strome-Yamamoto
    Caggiula-Khaira-Kassian

    1. Gives McDavid fast talent to play with
    2. Gives Draisaitl a shooting talent winger
    3. Puts Slepyshev and Yamamoto in a safer place to succeed
    4. Fast, tough good forechecking 4th line
    5. 4 value contracts

    I would change only a little from this lineup, I think its pretty solid.

    Nuge/McDavid/Grabner
    Lucic/Drai/Pulju
    Slepy/Stome/Aberg
    Pakarinen/Khaira/Kassian

    Grabner adds speed and a shooter to the top line, hopefully he’s not prohibitively expensive this off season. Aberg looks good to me and I think pushing Yamamoto into the AHL a season is the right thing to do. And I like Pak over Cags because he PKs. I also would be open to trading Kassian for a pick and adding another cheaper PKer for the 4th line.

  36. JustWatt says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    Am I the only one who thinks that if they finally play Nuge with McDavid that it’ll be Nuge who does more centering? Kinda like how Drai takes all the face-offs when they are together? Or maybe Connor plays more center in the offensive zone and Nuge takes over in the defensive zone just to maximize Connor’s offense? It’ll get written as Nuge as the LW but I don’t see it playing out that way, if TMc even ever puts them together

  37. Scungilli Slushy says:

    JimmyV1965:
    I asked this question a few days ago. To what extent does a team take on the personality of its coach? If the coach is always passive and doesn’t bring any fire and passion to his position as leader, does that filter through to the players? I saw Cooper absolutely lose it on the bench last night and have never seen any emotion like that from our coach.

    It seems to me this team plays well and then completely loses its composure over singular events. If the coach doesn’t believe in his players, will the players believe in themselves?

    I’m probably over thinking this and looking for reasons to distrust the coach.

    There is a time and place for theatrics or anger from the coach. The best coaches – Babcock, Trotz, Laviolette, Belichik, are calm mostly, and look grumpy. Players need to be emotionally stable so they aren’t all over the place as things happen. Great teams keep plugging along despite the game state. It’s a big part of how they keep winning.

    If a coach is volatile the team’s emotions will be volatile. And that isn’t what you want. You want players playing hard but mostly meeting assignments and winning plays. If people are too jacked up they make mistakes and lizard brain takes over. They get easy to distract with chirping and little hacks etc.

    If you ever watched Neil Sheehy get the 80’s Oilers off their game you’d know what I mean. Be a jerk then turtle when challenged. Many Oilers were so enraged they played worse games for it. He baited them many times before they were able to keep their heads together better.

  38. Andy Dufresne says:

    dustrock:
    Journal said Klefbom got a cortisone shot in his shoulder about a week ago.

    Why in the Sam Hill are they playing an injured player with a history of injuries who is on a fantastic contract?

    Why isn’t the media asking about this

    I think one explanation is that they may be auditioning him for next year. If he doesnt return to form hes probably getting moved. They need to know which Klefbom they are getting the 2016 Dreamy or the 2017 “3 dressed up as a 9” or I guess the hockey venacular would be “5 dressed up as 2”

  39. Andy Dufresne says:

    JustWatt: I would change only a little from this lineup, I think its pretty solid.

    Nuge/McDavid/Grabner
    Lucic/Drai/Pulju
    Slepy/Stome/Aberg
    Pakarinen/Khaira/Kassian

    Grabner adds speed and a shooter to the top line, hopefully he’s not prohibitively expensive this off season. Aberg looks good to me and I think pushing Yamamoto into the AHL a season is the right thing to do. And I like Pak over Cags because he PKs. I also would be open to trading Kassian for a pick and adding another cheaper PKer for the 4th line.

    +1 This or something like this is a high probability IMO

  40. Réal Goudenyéu says:

    Scungilli Slushy: There is a time and place for theatrics or anger from the coach. The best coaches – Babcock, Trotz, Laviolette, Belichik, are calm mostly, and look grumpy. Players need to be emotionally stable so they aren’t all over the place as things happen. Great teams keep plugging along despite the game state. It’s a big part of how they keep winning.

    If a coach is volatile the team’s emotions will be volatile. And that isn’t what you want. You want players playing hard but mostly meeting assignments and winning plays. If people are too jacked up they make mistakes and lizard brain takes over. They get easy to distract with chirping and little hacks etc.

    If you ever watched Neil Sheehy get the 80’s Oilers off their game you’d know what I mean. Be a jerk then turtle when challenged. Many Oilers were so enraged they played worse games for it. He baited them many times before they were able to keep their heads together better.

    Laviolette nearly climbed the boards to fight bylsma and Babcock has had some legendary scream fests at the refs.

    Not all emotion is bad.

  41. Andy Dufresne says:

    Scungilli Slushy: There is a time and place for theatrics or anger from the coach. The best coaches – Babcock, Trotz, Laviolette, Belichik, are calm mostly, and look grumpy. Players need to be emotionally stable so they aren’t all over the place as things happen. Great teams keep plugging along despite the game state. It’s a big part of how they keep winning.

    If a coach is volatile the team’s emotions will be volatile. And that isn’t what you want. You want players playing hard but mostly meeting assignments and winning plays. If people are too jacked up they make mistakes and lizard brain takes over. They get easy to distract with chirping and little hacks etc.

    If you ever watched Neil Sheehy get the 80’s Oilers off their game you’d know what I mean. Be a jerk then turtle when challenged. Many Oilers were so enraged they played worse games for it. He baited them many times before they were able to keep their heads together better.

    Theres 5 things I like about TMac and 5 things I dont. One thing I do admire is ability to remain composed. I couldnt do that job…..I would lose my Sh*t almost every game! Either on the officials or on my players.

  42. prefonmich says:

    Scungilli Slushy,

    SS, I agree with your take. We as fans, often have an emotional reaction to our team’s play and sometimes when things go bad like they have this season we want to see some of that emotion from the players and coaches as well. Players do very much take the lead of their coaches and a further loss of composure would not help this season go any better.

    I was watching the Flames play Colorado the other day (while doing other things so I didn’t see the whole game) but it seems the Flames were in total control at 2-0, then Tkachuk took a very obvious penalty that absolutely had to be called, and was. The coach was visibly upset at the ref for some reason. Colorado scored and the game turned. After the next goal to tie the game at 2, Gulutzan made a clapping motion that looked aimed at refs, he got a 2 minute unsportsmanlike. Colorado kept piling on. Later in the game, Gaudreau got called for embellishment after being high sticked and then lost it and took a 10 minute misconduct.

    It was interesting to watch play out because the night before Oilers had played San Jose and this blog went crazy saying our coach needs to lose it on the refs and that something needs to be said. I agreed, although didn’t post. When I saw Gulutzan yelling at the refs I was thinking to myself that I’d love to see that from our team’s coach. His actions, in the end, had a negative impact on his team’s composure and possibly on the result of a game they badly needed to win and were in complete control of.

    My point is just that we need to be careful what we wish for. I have been very vocal about my coaching frustrations this year while watching the team, but often when I listen to McLellan’s post game pressers or any media avail, he makes a lot of sense and is thoughtful and measured in his approach to lineup decisions. I don’t know if he is the right coach to get this team to succeed in the playoffs (or even make the playoffs) but I got a good example of how an emotional coach can impact the game in a negative way watching the Flames (I enjoyed every minute of it btw).

    PJ slotting lower in the lineup is one example where I thought he should be playing with McDavid but listened to coaches reasoning and it made total sense. I don’t think coach is limiting his icetime for punitive reasons, rather to protect the player and help him to build confidence that he can be a line driver and not have to defer all the time. I think PJ looks good in a 3rd line role right now and at times with McDavid, he looked lost. Another example is Nuge, he will start at centre because that is where the player is most comfortable. None of us seem to take into account that fact when we ask “why hasn’t Nuge been given a shot playing with McDavid”? If both players are most comfortable at centre maybe playing them together is not the best fit.

    Just some random thoughts in another lost season…

  43. Richard S.S. says:

    Is Cam Talbot the Oilers #1 Goaltender? As long as he gets at least good Defense yes he is. Do the Oilers need better, not really. If the Defense can avoid the really bad plays, they are good enough.
    Is Cam Talbot a #1 Goaltender? No he’s not. Too often he needs the Defense to be good. A true #1 will survive when it’s not that good and steal the occasional one when it’s bad. Talbot’s not there, yet?

  44. coolwasabi says:

    Slepyshev is a goner this summer. The Oilers management group are a stubborn bunch. Once they decide on a player, they stick to their guns even if the player and coach show otherwise.

    They’ve already decided that they’re not going to give Slepyshev any more chances. They counted on him at the beginning of this year and he let them down (injury certainly didn’t help). The only thing that would save him is a regime change.

    I hope they at least reclaim some assets in a trade.

  45. prefonmich says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    I agree, also potential of building his trade cache.

  46. Andy Dufresne says:

    JustWatt:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Am I the only one who thinks that if they finally play Nuge with McDavid that it’ll be Nuge who does more centering? Kinda like how Drai takes all the face-offs when they are together? Or maybe Connor plays more center in the offensive zone and Nuge takes over in the defensive zone just to maximize Connor’s offense? It’ll get written as Nuge as the LW but I don’t see it playing out that way, if TMc even ever puts them together

    At this point of the teams evolution, if I could ask Chiarelli for ONE thing to close out the season it wouod be to play Nuge on McDavids wing (or vice versa) for at least 3 week stretch to see if there any chemistry. 6 weeks would be better.

  47. Wilde says:

    OriginalPouzar: Do we know he’ll be willing to play here?

    Yes.

    He played in Alberta before in Calgary, then Montreal, then Calgary again and I’d say he’s used to Canadian markets.

    We didn’t deal him, and that does help.

    Everything from his interviews gives me the feeling he’ll come back.

    Now, the market? He’s got more than a few things going against him. undersized, 35+, 2 goals, etc.

  48. prefonmich says:

    JustWatt,

    +1
    We certainly agree on Caggs and Kassian. I would love to see Khaira higher up the lineup, I like his game more every day but tough to see exactly where. He could certainly get a lot of PK time and I think he’d be a good fit on the PP as well with his shot and smarts.

  49. Andy Dufresne says:

    Richard S.S.:
    Is Cam Talbot the Oilers #1 Goaltender?As long as he gets at least good Defense yes he is.Do the Oilers need better, not really. If the Defense can avoid the really bad plays, they are good enough.
    Is Cam Talbot a #1 Goaltender?No he’s not. Too often he needs the Defense to be good.A true #1 will survive when it’s not that good and steal the occasional one when it’s bad.Talbot’s not there, yet?

    So many things in life and business and sport are highly circumstantial. If Im Chia 2018 is make it or break it time for me. Im not going into the season with my job riding on Talbot not getting injured. Im buying a substantial backup. To quote Brian Burke *spits* ” Hockey should be called Goalie”

  50. Scungilli Slushy says:

    dustrock:
    Journal said Klefbom got a cortisone shot in his shoulder about a week ago.

    Why in the Sam Hill are they playing an injured player with a history of injuries who is on a fantastic contract?

    Why isn’t the media asking about this

    The boys need to have a good finish or they will be ruined, and they need to prove they aren’t wimps!!

    It’s ridiculous. Auvitu has been playing well enough to help for a few games. Larsson back soon.

    Nurse Larsson toughs
    Russell Benning
    Sekera Auvitu

    Why not and hope Klef is 100% next year.

  51. Scungilli Slushy says:

    prefonmich:
    Scungilli Slushy,

    SS, I agree with your take. We as fans, often have an emotional reaction to our team’s play and sometimes when things go bad like they have this season we want to see some of that emotion from the players and coaches as well. Players do very much take the lead of their coaches and a further loss of composure would not help this season go any better.

    I was watching the Flames play Colorado the other day (while doing other things so I didn’t see the whole game) but it seems the Flames were in total control at 2-0, then Tkachuk took a very obvious penalty that absolutely had to be called, and was. The coach was visibly upset at the ref for some reason. Colorado scored and the game turned. After the next goal to tie the game at 2, Gulutzan made a clapping motion that looked aimed at refs, he got a 2 minute unsportsmanlike. Colorado kept piling on. Later in the game, Gaudreau got called for embellishment after being high sticked and then lost it and took a 10 minute misconduct.

    It was interesting to watch play out because the night before Oilers had played San Jose and this blog went crazy saying our coach needs to lose it on the refs and that something needs to be said. I agreed, although didn’t post. When I saw Gulutzan yelling at the refs I was thinking to myself that I’d love to see that from our team’s coach. His actions, in the end, had a negative impact on his team’s composure and possibly on the result of a game they badly needed to win and were in complete control of.

    My point is just that we need to be careful what we wish for. I have been very vocal about my coaching frustrations this year while watching the team, but often when I listen to McLellan’s post game pressers or any media avail, he makes a lot of sense and is thoughtful and measured in his approach to lineup decisions. I don’t know if he is the right coach to get this team to succeed in the playoffs (or even make the playoffs) but I got a good example of how an emotional coach can impact the game in a negative way watching the Flames (I enjoyed every minute of it btw).

    PJ slotting lower in the lineup is one example where I thought he should be playing with McDavid but listened to coaches reasoning and it made total sense. I don’t think coach is limiting his icetime for punitive reasons, rather to protect the player and help him to build confidence that he can be a line driver and not have to defer all the time. I think PJ looks good in a 3rd line role right now and at times with McDavid, he looked lost. Another example is Nuge, he will start at centre because that is where the player is most comfortable. None of us seem to take into account that fact when we ask “why hasn’t Nuge been given a shot playing with McDavid”? If both players are most comfortable at centre maybe playing them together is not the best fit.

    Just some random thoughts in another lost season…

    Nice post. Tortorella seems to have more success when he’s not beating the daylight out of the hallways.

  52. OriginalPouzar says:

    Personally, I don’t think that management will be looking at the goalie situation at all during the off-season and Talbot/Montoya will be the duo.

    With that said, I know that many would like a 1B type back-up goalie – someone that can push Talbot and take over in the case of injury (or shit play).

    I’ve been express that I don’t think we can afford any such back-up as we can really only afford a true back-up cap hit around $1M and a 1B type starter would cost more (i.e. Mrazek I’m sure will be around $2.5M or so).

    There is one goalie out there that has the potential to be that 1B that might be cheap:

    How about Antti Niemi?

    He’s been a legit starter in the past but he lost his game for a number of years.

    He’s played 11 games for the Habs with sensational numbers. I think his current AAV is less than a million so he might be willing to sign a new deal for real back up money $1M or so and he has the potential to be a 1B.

    I think that might be a decent target.

  53. v4ance says:

    Idiot narratives piss me off.

    On 2nd goal last night, Lucic’s hit on Jarnkrok had nothing to do with the goal. Yes it fired up the crowd but the 1st pk unit left and the second unit got on the ice after McDavid bobbled the puck and Ekholm cleared it down the ice. Remenda and the other doofuses play it up like it was a key leading up to the goal.

    The goal was entirely due to speed through the neutral zone and Ryan Eliis cheating too far to the middle to help against McDavid. A good entry and evasion along the boards by Draisaitl to step by Ellis was finished with an excellent Draisaitl shot.

    This is the type of glowing MSM narrative about Lucic and the so called effectiveness of his phyiscality that makes me angry. Of course some dumb fans will parrot this narrative in defence of Lucic…

  54. OriginalPouzar says:

    JustWatt:
    OriginalPouzar,

    Am I the only one who thinks that if they finally play Nuge with McDavid that it’ll be Nuge who does more centering? Kinda like how Drai takes all the face-offs when they are together? Or maybe Connor plays more center in the offensive zone and Nuge takes over in the defensive zone just to maximize Connor’s offense? It’ll get written as Nuge as the LW but I don’t see it playing out that way, if TMc even ever puts them together

    You are probably right.

    I don’t think it really matters who “plays center” and who “plays wing” – its a scenario that fills a top 6 hole internally without committing material cap with term to an acquisition (which we can’t afford).

    I would think that the player taking the center responsibilities in the defensive zone, etc. would indeed be a variable thing depending on who is back first, etc.

    They are both high IQ hockey players who should be able to improvise on-ice responsibilities on the fly.

  55. OriginalPouzar says:

    coolwasabi:
    Slepyshev is a goner this summer. The Oilers management group are a stubborn bunch. Once they decide on a player, they stick to their guns even if the player and coach show otherwise.

    They’ve already decided that they’re not going to give Slepyshev any more chances. They counted on him at the beginning of this year and he let them down (injury certainly didn’t help). The only thing that would save him is a regime change.

    I hope they at least reclaim some assets in a trade.

    How have they decided that they aren’t going to give him any more chances?

    As soon as he strung together a few good games in a row (which likely coincided with 100% health, finally) he got he push on 1RW and has been there for 3 games.

    Seems like he’s getting a chance right now.

  56. JimmyV1965 says:

    LT talks a lot about balance. When it comes to Tmac, he never shows emotion. If you have Torts at one extreme, I would think Tmac is at the other extreme. The coach shouldn’t be losing his cool on the bench all the time, but at some point an emotional response could spark the team as well.

    I think what bothers me most is his blah post-game pressers. Not once have I ever heard him gush about a player’s performance. A little positive hyperbole about a player could be a real boost for the younger guys. And of course he’s never called out the refs.

    I remember Tmac being interviewed at the Pentincton tournament and he expressed concern about the team being mentally prepared to start the season. We hadn’t played even one game and he was expressing his lack of confidence in his team.

    Ultimately, all this emotion stuff really shouldn’t be factored into an evaluation of the coach, but it’s been driving me bonkers lately. He’s just so blah. I guess it just feeds into my frustration.

  57. JimmyV1965 says:

    v4ance:
    Idiot narratives piss me off.

    On 2nd goal last night, Lucic’s hit on Jarnkrok had nothing to do with thegoal.Yes it fired up the crowd but the 1st pk unit left and the second unit got on the ice after McDavid bobbled the puck and Ekholm cleared it down the ice.Remenda and the other doofuses play it up like it was a key leading up to the goal.

    The goal was entirely due to speed through the neutral zone and Ryan Eliis cheating too far to the middle to help against McDavid.A good entry and evasion along the boards by Draisaitl to step by Ellis was finished with an excellent Draisaitl shot.

    This is the type of glowing MSM narrative about Lucic and the so called effectiveness of his phyiscality that makes me angry.Of course some dumb fans will parrot this narrative in defence of Lucic…

    I remember hearing that and wondering what the hell they were talking about.

  58. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Réal Goudenyéu: Laviolette nearly climbed the boards to fight bylsma and Babcock has had some legendary scream fests at the refs.

    Not all emotion is bad.

    As I said there is a time and a place. a couple times a career sure, when something is really egregious. Everybody loses it at times, being a hothead is counterproducitve.

  59. --hudson-- says:

    How much better would Caggiula look if the Oilers sent him to the AHL and let him graduate to the NHL? It’s Justin Schultz all over again (with a lesser talent). At this stage he’s going to either need to resign for low $ in Edmonton or he’s done. He’s a reclamation project now.

  60. OriginalPouzar says:

    –hudson–:
    How much better would Caggiula look if the Oilers sent him to the AHL and let him graduate to the NHL?It’s Justin Schultz all over again (with a lesser talent).At this stage he’s going to either need to resign for low $ in Edmonton or he’s done.He’s a reclamation project now.

    I’m sure it would be a more thought-about option if he wasn’t subject to waivers.

  61. JustWatt says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I wonder if not clearly defining the roles would make for too many moments of confusion leading to GAs. Hockey is so fast and fluid that everyone has to be at least somewhat flexible but I feel like more structure would better set them up for success.

  62. --hudson-- says:

    OriginalPouzar: I’m sure it would be a more thought-about option if he wasn’t subject to waivers.

    Yes good point, I meant to include I was thinking about last season before he passed the games played threshold. It seems their plan is really short sighted and desperate.

    To really project into the future, it’s the kind of planning that can result in trading away a Klefbom or Nuge (players with several years of control) for a Hoffman or OEL (older players, with little control remaining).

  63. OriginalPouzar says:

    Laleggia opens the scoring 11 seconds in.

    The Condors are a long-shot to make the playoffs but I’ve stll got hope and will be following a big weekend for them (could be 3 points out by the end – yes, I know it goes by point percentage) even if some like to repeat how impossible them making the playoffs is.

    Go Condors!

  64. JustWatt says:

    JimmyV1965,

    Spot on. I am confused as to why Lucic gets some much rope while others don’t with the MSM. I had an idea yesterday that maybe the person who posited here a couple days ago (don’t remember who) that Lucic had broken his hand was right and that’s why he can’t pass, score, or punch and why the broadcasters were so lenient (because they knew he was playing hurt).

    And then he looked pretty dang good last night and I doubted myself.

    And then I read about Hemsky getting crapped all over after playing a month with a broken foot and I knew I was wrong.

    They play favorites. We all do. They are professionals and they shouldn’t, but they do.

    PS. Credit where due, Lucic played pretty dang good out there. More please

  65. OriginalPouzar says:

    –hudson–: Yes good point, I meant to include I was thinking about last season before he passed the games played threshold.It seems their plan is really short sighted and desperate.

    Asking an undrafted college rookie pro winger, coming off of an injury sustained in camp where he missed the first 6 weeks (I think) of the regular season, to come in an place 3rd line center was one of the most astounding decisions the current coaching staff has made, in my opinion.

    I don’t have an issue with the organization’s development of many current youngsters (Nurse, Khaira, Leon, Jesse, Bear, etc.), however, I really think they did Caggulia a diservice with the way they’ve handled him early in his career. The poorest development path of any current person in the organization.

  66. OriginalPouzar says:

    Coach has Nuge “penciled in” for tomorrow – he’s expected to play.

    I’m highly confident he’ll be at center – as per his verbal yesterday, the coach does consider the wing an option but will likely have him at his natural and comfortable position as he gets back in the lineup.

  67. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Personally, I don’t think that management will be looking at the goalie situation at all during the off-season and Talbot/Montoya will be the duo.

    With that said, I know that many would like a 1B type back-up goalie – someone that can push Talbot and take over in the case of injury (or shit play).

    I’ve been express that I don’t think we can afford any such back-up as we can really only afford a true back-up cap hit around $1M and a 1B type starter would cost more (i.e. Mrazek I’m sure will be around $2.5M or so).

    There is one goalie out there that has the potential to be that 1B that might be cheap:

    How about Antti Niemi?

    He’s been a legit starter in the past but he lost his game for a number of years.

    He’s played 11 games for the Habs with sensational numbers.I think his current AAV is less than a million so he might be willing to sign a new deal for real back up money $1M or so and he has the potential to be a 1B.

    I think that might be a decent target.

    If you think that Chia job is secure through to the 2019 season then maybe youre right, In that circumstance he can afford to take a risk onTalbot.

    But if you think (as I do) that his job status/security is based on getting into the playoffs in 2018 then reallistically, I dont think he takes that risk (Talbot inconsistency/fail/injury)

    It may no longer be a “what can we afford due to cap” (financial) situation. It has become a “what can we not afford” in order to keep our job type of (risk management) situation. IMO

    So it really depends on just how much Job security you think he has.

    For me, based mainly on his style of play, Talbot is not a stand-alone Top Tier goaltender…he is a top 15….(top 10 in a good year) His play this year SCREAMS tandum to me. I try and resign him at as low a number as possible ($4m with term?) and sign an up and comer for $3m or less. (Arron Dell perhaps)

  68. Brantford Boy says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    I really liked Cammalleri’s game last night… did anyone else notice him flagging everyone in on the forecheck, as to say ‘what the hell are you guys doing back there, come up here’… either that or he was landing a plane at YEG…

    I think we need some veterans to stay during this transition, I think he is starting to fit in very nice, and he’s skating a ton and very seldom out of place…

  69. Brantford Boy says:

    HiddenDarts,

    Agreed… I thought Bear not only didn’t look out of position (for most of the game), he actually looked good… nice to see, miles to go…

  70. OriginalPouzar says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Laleggia opens the scoring 11 seconds in.

    The Condors are a long-shot to make the playoffs but I’ve stll got hope and will be following a big weekend for them (could be 3 points out by the end – yes, I know it goes by point percentage) even if some like to repeat how impossible them making the playoffs is.

    Go Condors!

    An eventful first period – a couple of fights (Lowe (with instigator) and Polei), a goal 11 seconds in (LaLeggia) and LB stops a penalty shot.

  71. OilClog says:

    Bears edges, stops, starts, and hussle back speed all need some work. A strong summer with a skating coach should remedy that

  72. ArmchairGM says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sounds like there is a better than even chance Nuge returns to the lineup on Saturday.

    Now, before we get ahead of ourselves hoping for Nuge to be 1LW and spew vitriol when it doesn’t happen, coach expressly acknowledged the possibility yesterday but expressed the likelihood he’d start at center upon his return to the lineup as that is the position he’s comfortable with and it will help him re-find his game.

    Which is why I’d go with a Slepyshev – Nugent-Hopkins – McDavid first line.

  73. --hudson-- says:

    I made a script to gather the post-game comments from Todd McLellan. If people find this interesting, I can try to do it after every game. Apologies for lack of formatting, this is the way it gets passed on from youtube.

    Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmlHg1tRU5E
    —————
    Q (Greggor): pretty solid game for your team getting
    up early and just kind of see a lead
    slip away again
    A: that was I thought it was a fairly evenly
    matched game when it
    was all said and done we made a few more
    mistakes than they did and and I thought
    they were they capitalized more on our
    mistakes and we did on theirs
    obviously being up to nothing he’d like
    to be able to to get it to three Connor
    at the breakaway didn’t go in and the
    goal at the end of the second didn’t
    help us at all the momentum killer but
    even after that our team settled down I
    thought we played a solid third period
    there wasn’t much going on either way
    and we had a couple breakdowns you know
    by veteran players that should be able
    to make those plays late in the in the
    third and it cost us

    Q (Rishaug): I’m just gonna ask
    you about those self-inflicted I mean
    that’s what they described them as and I
    know they happen in games but I mean how
    frustrating is it when it’s that
    important point of a game and you expect
    those guys
    A: well it’s it’s frustrating at
    any point in the game
    veterans rookies first game thousandth
    game players make mistakes but some of
    them are are more preventable than
    others you know you’ve got the puck in
    free ice and and try and go through
    people that that’s a tough one and you
    know if somebody was stripping a puck
    and knocking you off of it and taking it
    to the net it’d be a little bit
    different but um you know those are
    areas that we have to improve on they
    didn’t make those types of mistakes as
    many times as we did tonight and when we
    made them they capitalized when they
    made them we we didn’t get enough out of
    that

    Q (Greggor): what did you make of ethan bear’s
    first NHL game
    A: I thought he looked
    confident he moved pucks well he zipped
    pucks up I think you can tell a lot
    about how firm young players passes are
    and how accurate there are and he made a
    number of those throughout the night the
    game sheets not going to give you a true
    story when it comes to his game you’re
    gonna see dash-three but here’s a victim of
    circumstances even on the second goal at
    the end of the period
    there was a little bit of hesitation but
    a lot of players would have hesitated do
    I go for that puck or not you know I
    felt better and better putting him on
    the ice as the game wore on so that’s
    it’s a good start for him tough team to
    play against

    Q (Greggor): you had him a lot with mcDavid’s line
    I’m guessing that that was just on
    purpose do you like his puck movement
    ability or is it in a sense a little bit
    of a way to kind of protect them
    A: no you know what we wanted to see him in all
    situations it wasn’t
    we weren’t sitting in the locker room or
    in the the coach’s office saying hey you
    know what Ethan Bears playing tonight we
    got to make sure that we protect them
    let’s play them let’s let’s show a lot
    of confidence in them as a coaching
    staff let’s put him in a lot of
    situations you know their fourth line
    with Arvidsson they’re there they’re the
    most even strength goals on their team
    as a line so you can’t hide him against
    that team he’s going to play against
    tremendous players in all situations so
    and that wasn’t our goal we didn’t need
    to he’s a good player

    Q (Rishaug): the goal didn’t
    come but did you see a positive step
    forward for Lucic tonight
    A: yep and I know
    a lots been made since we go back from
    the road trip and heading out and the
    streak and all that type of stuff I
    think the Milan’s played better over the
    last four or five games 1) it has to do
    with him dealing with frustration better
    2) sure Connors helping him out a little
    bit his teammates are behind him right
    now where he’s led in the past and all
    the teammates are pushing him and and
    you know he’s not he’s making more
    subtle plays than he did in the past so
    it’s a step in the right direction a
    number of scoring chances just didn’t go
    in

    Q (Rishaug): you guys were down by two I think
    there was three ten on the clock did you
    give any thought to pull him the goalie
    there what did you sense in that moment
    A: no we did you know but we also wanted to
    just continue playing our players
    rolling them out we’ve been in that
    situation a number of times lately gave
    up empty net goals and it really feels
    like you lost the game deeply we weren’t
    winning many faceoffs which was also
    problem I think we ended up 28% or
    something like that at the end of the
    night so odds on us having possession
    off a draw weren’t real good either any
    update

    Q (Greggor): Any update Nugent-Hopkins will
    he be available Saturday?
    A: he’s close he had a good skate
    today he’ll work tomorrow
    I would say he’s over the 50% mark for
    Saturday okay good night

  74. OriginalPouzar says:

    Rattie re-assigned to the Condors – looking like we’ll see Nuge in action tomorrow night – can’t wait.

  75. OriginalPouzar says:

    Edmonton Oilers

    Verified account

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    “He believes in me & that gives me a good feeling. He’s a very encouraging guy.” @Bear25E on having some one-on-one time with #Oilers Skills Development Coach Paul Coffey

  76. --hudson-- says:

    Todds post practice availability today.

    Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGUljs6Z7Lw
    ————————————————–
    Q: Todd is there not what is the update on around new Jean Hopkins today
    A: look good today felt good today very close to playing right now I’m penciling him into the lineup but we’ll see how he feels in the morning

    Q: started to jujhar Kara he’s worth some nice schools with a nice shot this season can you explain how he’s grown with just his awareness in the offensive zone of what to do and where the puck should go and puck handeling
    A: well view if we reflect on his season we go back to the beginning and training camp what we’re seeing now we saw a lot of in training camp and I think he got a little bit comfortable he didn’t protect pucks CD and go get them he wasn’t aggressive and it took a little time and some tough love to get him back to that but since that time he’s been a consistent contributor on a nightly basis offensively and defensively he’s become a good penalty killer a good faceoff guy all-around player uses his size very well to protect pucks and create space for other players can make tight turns and gets a shot off in traffic and we’re encouraging him to use that shot more and more he’s had a tendency to look off and want to pass but when you possess that kind of release you should use it as much as you can

    Q: how tough do you think this has been for Andre Sekera 20-22 games already and trying to get back to the format’s last year
    A: it’s extremely tough anybody that’s played sport I would think especially hockey to have that type of injury and come back at at the point in the season that he did you’re fighting an uphill battle you know regardless of how hard you work what type of conditioning you’re in the pop in your legs isn’t the same the sense of timing and the read in the react part you have to catch up on and it feels like you’re going uphill all season and it’s been a tough tough goal for him he’s had some really tough nights he’s had some good nights we’re trying to get him some confidence that’ll be a goal of ours from now until the end of the year him and a number of players but it’s he can use a good summer ahead of them and come back feeling good

    Q: how much do you think his mental you have that such a serious injury
    A: well I think that comes into play but I think the physical part is the one that concerns me more with him it’s you know the pop and the legs the the explosiveness to get to that spot and he’s always been a cerebral guy that needs a little time to to make good smart plays and it’s just closing so fast on them right now but we’ll keep working with them we’ll keep supporting them and we think he’s still a great asset to have on our team especially moving forward

    Q: defense is a really hard position for a young guy to learn it takes years to master and for a lot of that time you’re fishing pucks out of your own net how do you kind of in a position like Ethan his end you have to be aware of his his psychological well-being as much as him as a player
    A: um yes and no you know we’re it we’re in a situation where we’re playing games that we can afford to to give him a little bit more without serious repercussions standing wise we gave that away early in the year so that allows us to do that a little bit yet we don’t want to put him in a situation where he doesn’t have a chance at success we want to push him to the limit Ethan’s viewed as a as an offensive player we’re going to give him as much freedom as as we can in that area we’re going to try and work with him defensively and there’s been a lot of very good junior offensive defenseman that have gone through and had never been able to stay in the league because of their risk reward factor it may be a little too risky and not enough rewarding I don’t see Ethan at this point being that guy I think he takes enough responsibility and and is attentive enough to his defensive game but we’ll work with him as well

    Q: Todd Ethan said that Paul Coffey is helping with that psychological side I just wonder if there’s improvements you’d like to see him make in regards to on ice tangibles
    A: well yeah Paul you know Paul’s been here for just the one day since since Ethan has been up and it’s nice to have Ian Herbers and and Jimmie Johnson Paul Coffey though these guys have all played in the National Hockey League they all played their first game and they all entered as rookies they all have gone through it and in different errors eras different types of players some have more success than others so I think that between the three of them they understand what what it feels like for Ethan right now and it’s nice to have that sounding board you know right now it’s it’s about confidence for him and we want to maintain that as high as possible

  77. Side says:

    –hudson–:
    Todds post practice availability today.

    Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGUljs6Z7Lw
    ————————————————–
    Q: Todd is there not what is the update on around new Jean Hopkins today

    Lowetidians, can we please start referring to RNH as “new Jean Hopkins”? Pleeeassee?

  78. Melvis says:

    Up at 4:00am – then pounding away on any number of studies, ususally around 50, before scaling up to a big canvas. Or some three dimensionel work. Rich men’s toys. Then a skim through the thread containing a lot of half assed subjective bitching about what else? Rich men’s toys.

    Stephen Sheps and VOR

    Thanks very much for current and historic input on a wide variety of subjects. The music, the booze, the travel inspired, and all the rest of it – yes, as well as the hockeying and the profoundly interesting statisticians takes – and the persistenly obvious attitudes about wringing the most out of life. Very much appreciated.

    Also thanks to the humorists. May you live forever. I find it interesting that some of the lifelong cigar smoking, deli sandwich consuming, boozers of yore managed something in the range of 90 to a 100 years of productive life making other people laugh.

    Woodguy – I’m jealous. Orlando, Dunedin, spring training (if that’s in your mix) and bag of sunflower seeds somewhere above the first base line. To die for. The full sized pickup and Airstream related peripatetic lifestyle? Next spring for me.

    Oh yeah, while I’m at it.

    BONE207 – I’ve got some ferts and fuel oil out at the farm looking for an excuse and a Graboid.;-)

    Aside from that – in light of a comment you made from the other day – I haven’t done shit that wasn’t heavily reliant on coincidence, intuition, risk taking, and an obsessively determinant attitude that doesn’t know the meaning of the word boredom. Curiosity and a penchant for following it up using whatever means one has at hand. Inherently, everybody is blessed with that, I suspect.

  79. OriginalPouzar says:

    Andy Dufresne: If you think that Chia job is secure through to the 2019 season then maybe youre right, In that circumstance he can afford to take a risk onTalbot.

    But if you think (as I do) that his job status/security is based on getting into the playoffs in 2018 then reallistically, I dont think he takes that risk (Talbot inconsistency/fail/injury)

    It may no longer be a “what can we afford due to cap” (financial) situation. It has become a “what can we not afford” in order to keep our job type of (risk management) situation. IMO

    So it really depends on just how much Job security you think he has.

    For me, based mainly on his style of play, Talbot is not a stand-alone Top Tier goaltender…he is a top 15….(top 10 in a good year) His play this year SCREAMS tandum to me. I try and resign him at as low a number as possible ($4m with term?) and sign an up and comer for $3m or less. (Arron Dell perhaps)

    I disagree with that path forward but I may be in the minority.

    There is zero cap space right now to improve on our current 23 skaters. We need to create cap space in order to make any improvements. They way to improve from here is extremely hard given the cap space issues. I can’t see any scenario where the organization can spend $3M on a second goaltender.

    Lets not forget, even if we re-sign Talbot to a lesser amount, that contract doesn’t kick in until the 2019/20 season – his cap hit next year will remain at $4M.

  80. OriginalPouzar says:

    Brantford Boy:
    OriginalPouzar,

    I really liked Cammalleri’s game last night… did anyone else notice him flagging everyone in on the forecheck, as to say ‘what the hell are you guys doing back there, come up here’… either that or he was landing a plane at YEG…

    I think we need some veterans to stay during this transition, I think he is starting to fit in very nice, and he’s skating a ton and very seldom out of place…

    While clearly not as dynamic as he once was, he’s got a high hockey IQ – just a smart player out there who makes smart plays (i.e. shoot it low off the pads for a rebound instead of trying for the far side corner and the puck going the other way) and is generally in the right place. He can move around the lineup a bit to.

    I think he’d be a solid re-sign at his current cap hit ($1M) and I would be fine with it at any time – I don’t feel the need to wait until mid-summer to see what else is out there. As we know, I don’t want any material winger acquisition in the first place as I don’t think we can afford to add any cap with term.

  81. OriginalPouzar says:

    OilClog:
    Bears edges, stops, starts, and hussle back speed all need some work. A strong summer with a skating coach should remedy that

    Yes, he’s got lots of work to do but the areas that he needs to improve on are areas that can be improved with hard work and, from accounts, this kid will work hard to improve as required.

    The non-teachable skills, the ability to make plays quickly, the offensive instincts, etc. are there.

    I would think he needs at least the majority (if not all) of next season in the AHL again before we can reasonably project him in to the NHL lineup.

  82. SayItAin'tSo, Gretz, SayItAin'tSo! says:

    Melvis:

    Curiosity and a penchant for following it up using whatever means one has at hand. Inherently, everybody is blessed with that, I suspect.

    That is a very good outlook to have, well said!

    On a fun topic, as I perused the stats tables today I noticed that Captain McDavid was 10th in goals. He finished last season tied for 25th and scored 30. Gord willing he’ll surpass that number but I wonder just how far he can push it.

    NYCOil noted earlier that around this time last season McDavid went supernova in his point totals. The Art Ross race promises to be a helluva ride to close this season out.

  83. Alpine says:

    I’d bring Cammalleri back as a 13F/4th Line veteran support guy next season if I was convinced he could shoot agin. He shot 7% last year is just below 5% this year.

    I’d want to him to be around 11% next year to cover the bet, and I don’t know how much you can bank on sh% regression for old guys. He’s gotta regress closer to his career average to be worthwhile because he doesn’t have the boots anymore.

  84. Professor Q says:

    Side: Lowetidians, can we please start referring to RNH as “new Jean Hopkins”?Pleeeassee?

    The New Johns Hopkins Hockey University?

  85. OriginalPouzar says:

    Condors going to OT – 35 saves for Brossoit in regulation.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    Damn – Condors lose in OT – not good.

  87. Oil2Oilers says:

    –hudson–,

    new Jean Hopkins

    Gold, love the script and its sense of humour

  88. leadfarmer says:

    You guys crack me up

    Talbot plays pretty much every game except for a short injury stretch. “I don’t think his job is secure” is the chorus line.

    I think his job is very secure. I’d be more worried that he wants to leave so he doesn’t have to play behind this team.
    No goalie is going to play well behind so many defensive gaffes

  89. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    – Re: Talbot. Last year he got Vezina votes

    – Last year, Coach got Jack Adams votes

    – Last year, GM got GM of year votes

    – This year none of the above are getting votes

    – Next year: Does OBC trust Chia to trust Coach, to trust Goaler.

    – Did last year give any counter to this year, affording this trio to be together next year?

    – We will see

  90. SwedishPoster says:

    Interesting comment in swedish media from Pontus Åberg, Alfons in my world, on the difference between the Preds and Oilers. “It still feels odd. In Nashville they just wanted me to dump the puck in. Here they want me to do something with it, be creative.” Clearly they want him in a different role than the one he’s had. Might very well pay off.

    In other news William Lagesson had two helpers last night, offense ain’t his game but still good to see, I saw parts of the game, he looks better than he did just two months ago. More agile, more comfortable with the puck, two things he needed to work. Still plays his steady, no nonsense, low risk game, zero creativity, but with a bit more finesse than before, smoother.

    Filip Berglund is also playing well, his team lost last night, was even and 0 points, but the game before he was great, one of the best players on the ice and had a real nice assist to the first goal of the game. Seems like they are giving him a bit more rope to try things offensively of late, or he’s just grabbing it himself.

  91. OmJo says:

    –hudson–: Yes good point, I meant to include I was thinking about last season before he passed the games played threshold.It seems their plan is really short sighted and desperate.

    To really project into the future, it’s the kind of planning that can result in trading away a Klefbom or Nuge (players with several years of control) for a Hoffman or OEL (older players, with little control remaining).

    They didn’t even give him a conditioning stint in the AHL last season when he was finally healthy. Put him right in the 3C position.

    Schultz at least got some AHL (though not for the right reasons).

    Compare how Calgary handled Foo to how we’re handling Cagguila.

  92. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Coach has Nuge “penciled in” for tomorrow – he’s expected to play.

    I’m highly confident he’ll be at center – as per his verbal yesterday, the coach does consider the wing an option but will likely have him at his natural and comfortable position as he gets back in the lineup.

    Could it be 1C, with McDavid and Slepyshev as wingers? Maybe we’ll see those two play with each other after all.

  93. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Imagine next year: all of Pool, Sleppy, Jar (and by end of year Kailer) on this team:

    Sleppy-McD-Pool
    Cami-Drai-Pontus
    Lucic-RNH-Kailer
    Jar-Strome-Kassian

    – Pretty easy to imagine this, and with thes 4 C’s: pretty special.

    – And bring in another W (non-Jagr division)

  94. Gayfish says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    Imagine next year: all of Pool, Sleppy, Jar (and by end of year Kailer) on this team:

    Sleppy-McD-Pool
    Cami-Drai-Pontus
    Lucic-RNH-Kailer
    Jar-Strome-Kassian

    – Pretty easy to imagine this, and with that 4 C: pretty special.And bring in another W

    I think we can do something similar with the defence.

    Klefbom-Marincin
    Nurse- Fraser
    Sekera- Strudwick
    Russel- Gernat

  95. stevezie says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux: Sleppy-McD-Pool
    Sleppy-McD-Pool
    Cami-Drai-Pontus
    Lucic-RNH-Kailer
    Jar-Strome-Kassian

    Feel free to disagree with me, my finger’s a lot further off the pulse than it used to be, but to me that looks like:

    Truly excellent centre depth
    Really, really terrible wingers. Not even one i would feel confident in. Not One.

    Sure, it’s possible that several of them either get their groove back or take a big step forward, but if we’re using LT’s idea of “reasonable expectations”, how many of those guys can you confidently predict will hit even 40 points? Any of them? I mean if that was the team I guess someone would have to play with McDavid on the pp so probably somebody would, but oof.

    If we decide to be neither blue sky or doomsday ourselves and assume a third get better, a third get worse, and a third are about the same, that is a borderline playoff team- the Cs are still excellent.

    And as of right now the D is still not fixed. Your optimism confuses me.

  96. stevezie says:

    Gayfish,

    Nice

  97. OmJo says:

    Gayfish: I think we can do something similar with the defence.

    Klefbom-Marincin
    Nurse- Fraser
    Sekera- Strudwick
    Russel- Gernat

    Am I the only who laughed at have 8 LD in the lineup?

    I’m dead inside.

  98. Wolfpack says:

    I agree with playing the youngsters and determining what we’ve got the rest of the way.

    Just a quick comment on that first goal against, I could see it coming as soon as Strome made the pass. It was way too hard and in Sekera’s skates – I am not sure the blame is on him on that one. D-men make that pass off the boards behind the net all the time, forwards not so much. It was a recipe for disaster as soon as Strome got the puck in that spot and didn’t turn up ice. A hard forechecking team like the Preds live off opportunities like that.

  99. OriginalPouzar says:

    I forgot to mention earlier that Caleb Jones finally returned to the Condors lineup for this morning’s Game.

  100. OriginalPouzar says:

    Wolfpack:
    I agree with playing the youngsters and determining what we’ve got the rest of the way.

    Just a quick comment on that first goal against, I could see it coming as soon as Strome made the pass. It was way too hard and in Sekera’s skates – I am not sure the blame is on him on that one. D-men make that pass off the boards behind the net all the time, forwards not so much. It was a recipe for disaster as soon as Strome got the puck in that spot and didn’t turn up ice. A hard forechecking team like the Preds live off opportunities like that.

    It was Sekera with the bad pass in to Strome’s skates, was it not?

  101. Bank Shot says:

    I think we should all appreciate Todd McLellan’s cunning stratagem in regards to Mcdavid.

    By playing McDavid with Lucic who will never score another goal in the national hockey league, Todd has forced McDavid to give up on recording assists.

    I mean, just 2-3 games ago McDavid looked off Lucic on a two on one and decided to score instead. That might have been the first time he didn’t pass on a two on one in his career.

    In his last 15 games, McDavid has scored 14 goals, and only recorded 9 assists. If this kind of play keeps up, McDavid will handily win the Rocket Richard next season and we will have Todd and Milan to thank for this amazing feat.

  102. Andy Dufresne says:

    leadfarmer:
    You guys crack me up

    Talbot plays pretty much every game except for a short injury stretch.“I don’t think his job is secure” is the chorus line.

    I think his job is very secure.I’d be more worried that he wants to leave so he doesn’t have to play behind this team.
    No goalie is going to play well behind so many defensive gaffes

    If youre refering to me….I wasnt talking about Talbots job security….I was talking about Chias job security……if youre not refering to my comment……that is all….carry on…

  103. thehop says:

    OriginalPouzar: It was Sekera with the bad pass in to Strome’s skates, was it not?

    Ya a frickin grenade into his skates because he didn’t want to take the hit that was headed his way.

    I hope he heals up soon.

    The Oilers cannot afford a Sekera at anything less than 100%.

  104. OriginalPouzar says:

    Maksimov with a first period goal – he just keeps on scoring.

  105. JD_Wry says:

    Melvis: Then a skim through the thread containing a lot of half assed subjective bitching about what else? Rich men’s toys.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NskSnQIPBBM

  106. OriginalPouzar says:

    Safin with no points and 2 shots on net in a loss.

    Samorukov serving the first game of a two game suspension for a slew foot.

  107. Munny says:

    I’m actually hoping that Nuge isn’t the L1 solution.

    He’s not the greatest shot (he’s okay but not great) and relying on him to be the corner dig guy is a waste of his talents.

    I’d rather see Drai at R1 than Nuge at L1.

  108. OriginalPouzar says:

    Whichever one works to keep management from going down the wrong path of trying to acquire the “shooter for McDavid” and commit material cap with term.

    The Oilers cannot afford to commit material cap to any more wingers, not under our current structure which includes the Lucic contract. The team will need to rely on young players outperforming their ELC cap hits in the top 6 – unfortunately, there may not be a prospect ready for next season and a one-year stop gap type acquisition would be the best path forward.

  109. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Whichever one works to keep management from going down the wrong path of trying to acquire the “shooter for McDavid” and commit material cap with term.

    The Oilers cannot afford to commit material cap to any more wingers, not under our current structure which includes the Lucic contract.The team will need to rely on young players outperforming their ELC cap hits in the top 6 – unfortunately, there may not be a prospect ready for next season and a one-year stop gap type acquisition would be the best path forward.

    I just hope they don’t go for the quick fix. You think they would have figured this out by now, but it’s the Oilers. If they’re hell bent on spending money, invest even more in scouting and development.

    As a fan, I’m prepared for incremental growth over the next three years. I just hope mngt can do the same.

  110. Melvis says:

    JD_Wry,

    Unfortunately, the Woodguy 3.0, (Bubinga encased) – dropped the sentence containing hypocrisy, pots and kettles, and personal annoyance when engaged in the bitching.

  111. OriginalPouzar says:

    JimmyV1965: I just hope they don’t go for the quick fix. You think they would have figured this out by now, but it’s the Oilers. If they’re hell bent on spending money, invest even more in scouting and development.

    As a fan, I’m prepared for incremental growth over the next three years. I just hope mngt can do the same.

    Of course they are going to try for the quick fix and will try and fill all the holes this off-season.

    Read all the posts on here (and every other social media forum), the fanase has no patience and are demanding competitiveness next year – they have no leash for a 2-3 year plan from this point.

    From many accounts, management is looking for at least one if not two top 6 wingers this off-season plus a right shot D, etc.

    How in the world they plan on doing this is beyond me.

    I don’t see a successful path forward with a focus on top 6 winger acquisition this spring/summer, however, it seems that is indeed the focus of current management.

  112. Bobcaygeon says:

    Wow…….Can Lundqvist still goalie or what!

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Yamamoto with a first period assist.

  114. JD_Wry says:

    Melvis: bitching

    Just don’t wenge too much.

  115. OriginalPouzar says:

    The out of town scoreboard continues to look glorous tonight:

    – As we know, the Habs got two points.

    – COL is crushing the Wild

    – Rangers are up by two in Calgary with about 14 min to go

    – Canucks have a 1-0 lead on NSH half way though.

    – Sens are up a goal on VGS half way through

    – ANA and CBJ are tied at 1 half way though.

  116. Melvis says:

    JD_Wry,

    Oops. I forgot. Active verbs rule.

  117. flyfish1168 says:

    Phlegm loss brings almost as much joy as an Oiler win. 🙂

  118. Old Timer says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers when the real problem is still in the D corps.

    At this point in time I seriously question whether the Oilers have 1, much less 2, top pairing D men. Until the Oilers really solidify their defense by adding a RD that can either QB the power play or one that has a real bomb from the point, then this team will never reach the potential it has with McDavid and Draisaitl.

    It may be that the only way they can acquire a #1RHD is to draft one or even two this spring. Strategically, this would be a good move as no other position is of greater value as a hockey asset than a top pairing RHD man. These players simply don’t get traded except for a king’s ransom.

  119. OmJo says:

    We don’t have a top pairing Dman or a top line winger (minus C Draisaitl ofc)?

  120. Ryan says:

    OriginalPouzar: Of course they are going to try for the quick fix and will try and fill all the holes this off-season.

    Read all the posts on here (and every other social media forum), the fanase has no patience and are demanding competitiveness next year – they have no leash for a 2-3 year plan from this point.

    From many accounts, management is looking for at least one if not two top 6 wingers this off-season plus a right shot D, etc.

    How in the world they plan on doing this is beyond me.

    I don’t see a successful path forward with a focus on top 6 winger acquisition this spring/summer, however, it seems that is indeed the focus of current management.

    For the Cadillac’s and gas money’s spent.

  121. Ryan says:

    Melvis:
    JD_Wry,

    Unfortunately, the Woodguy 3.0, (Bubinga encased) – dropped the sentence containing hypocrisy, pots and kettles, and personal annoyance when engaged in the bitching.

    My personal pet peeve is not that so many do not understand the difference between “affect” and “effect,” rather that so many lack the ability to discern “soporific” from “saprophytic.”

  122. Harpers Hair says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    The out of town scoreboard continues to look glorous tonight:

    – As we know, the Habs got two points.

    – COL is crushing the Wild

    – Rangers are up by two in Calgary with about 14 min to go

    – Canucks have a 1-0 lead on NSH half way though.

    – Sens are up a goal on VGS half way through

    – ANA and CBJ are tied at 1 half way though.

    And any of this makes a difference, how?

  123. Melvis says:

    Ryan: My personal pet peeve is not that so many do not understand the difference between “affect” and “effect,” rather that so many lack the ability to discern “soporific” from “saprophytic.”

    And here I always thought “saprophytic” described an outworn cock sock. Thank you for that.

  124. godot10 says:

    Munny:
    I’m actually hoping that Nuge isn’t the L1 solution.

    He’s not the greatest shot (he’s okay but not great) and relying on him to be the corner dig guy is a waste of his talents.

    I’d rather see Drai at R1 than Nuge at L1.

    McDavid and Nugent-Hopkins will score off the rush like all other great players and duos in NHL history. No need to dig the puck out of the corner when you have it on your stick, and have another really good player to play give-and-go with.

  125. godot10 says:

    Old Timer:
    OriginalPouzar,

    What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers when the real problem is still in the D corps.

    What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers and defensemen when the real problem is the coach.

    Nathan McKinnon and a bunch of nobodies, particularly on defense, and a career AHL coach are going to make the playoffs.

  126. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Of course they are going to try for the quick fix and will try and fill all the holes this off-season.

    Read all the posts on here (and every other social media forum), the fanase has no patience and are demanding competitiveness next year – they have no leash for a 2-3 year plan from this point.

    From many accounts, management is looking for at least one if not two top 6 wingers this off-season plus a right shot D, etc.

    How in the world they plan on doing this is beyond me.

    I don’t see a successful path forward with a focus on top 6 winger acquisition this spring/summer, however, it seems that is indeed the focus of current management.

    Ya think they would learn by now. What high-priced free agent has ever helped this team? Sekera is the best and he’s been bad in two of three years. Although he gets a pass from me this season.

    They’re best free agent signing was Russell at $1 mill for one year. Maybe, just maybe you should focus on something like that.

    So what’s the alternative? Trading draft picks or one of our few young prospects for older players? I don’t see that working long term either. That leaves us with trading RNH or Klef. I can just imagine how that will turn out.

    Chia should be scouting the NCAA and CHL, looking for hidden gems. Or Europe or the KHL. We have McDavid, Drai and RNH. Keep your powder dry, develop your picks and try to find some cheap, complementary players.

  127. Decidedly Skeptical Fan says:

    godot10: What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers and defensemen when the real problem is the coach.

    Nathan McKinnon and a bunch of nobodies, particularly on defense, and a career AHL coach are going to make the playoffs.

    If TMac is not shown the door at the end of this season, your point will become painfully obvious to even the most ardent coaching staff supporters when next season we once again start slow out of the gate and end up missing the playoffs.

    At that point Chia is probably fired but of course Todd will be retained. Any idea how the top 10 picks are stacking up for the 2019 draft?

    I am just coming to the realization that we could very easily go the entire length of the McDavid contract without once being in a SCF, let alone winning one. Ownership and organizational management seem to really be that inept.

    What kind of fucked up reality is that anyway?

    Fire the coach!

  128. RonnieB says:

    JimmyV1965,

    Actually, Russell’s 1-year contract was $3.1 million which was $500,000 more than any previous AAV in his career. In another endorsement of Chia’s negotiating skill, ( sarcasm alert ) this contract was signed after Russell was an unemployed UFA for more than 3 months.

  129. JimmyV1965 says:

    Old Timer:
    OriginalPouzar,

    What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers when the real problem is still in the D corps.

    At this point in time I seriously question whether the Oilers have 1, much less 2, top pairing D men. Until the Oilers really solidify their defense by adding a RD that can either QB the power play or one that has a real bomb from the point, then this team will never reach the potential it has with McDavid and Draisaitl.

    It may be that the only way they can acquire a #1RHD is to draft one or even two this spring. Strategically, this would be a good move as no other position is of greater value as a hockey asset than a top pairing RHD man. These players simply don’t get traded except for a king’s ransom.

    I’m not buying this. The Oil had a great PP last year without a RHD bomb from the point. This PP is fixable with the players we have. How many teams in the league can put out guys like McDavid and Drai?

    IMO the poor PP is on the coaching. The guys stand around and pass the puck around the perimeter. I don’t care who’s playing on the point, you won’t have a good PP with that happening.

    IMO a RHD is our biggest need, but someone who plays solid in their own end and move the puck efficiently out of our dzone. We don’t need a PP QB.

  130. JimmyV1965 says:

    RonnieB:
    JimmyV1965,

    Actually, Russell’s 1-year contract was $3.1 million which was $500,000 more than any previous AAV in his career. In another endorsement of Chia’s negotiating skill, ( sarcasm alert ) this contract was signed after Russell was an unemployed UFA for more than 3 months.

    Sorry. You’re right. But a one year deal was fine in my books.

  131. OriginalPouzar says:

    Old Timer:
    OriginalPouzar,

    What really concerns me is that many posters are demanding top six wingers when the real problem is still in the D corps.

    At this point in time I seriously question whether the Oilers have 1, much less 2, top pairing D men. Until the Oilers really solidify their defense by adding a RD that can either QB the power play or one that has a real bomb from the point, then this team will never reach the potential it has with McDavid and Draisaitl.

    It may be that the only way they can acquire a #1RHD is to draft one or even two this spring. Strategically, this would be a good move as no other position is of greater value as a hockey asset than a top pairing RHD man. These players simply don’t get traded except for a king’s ransom.

    I’m not really concerned about the d-man for the PP – my concern is the d-man for the ability to transition the puck out of our own zone with speed and efficiency and the overall balance of our defensive group (not just leftie/rightie but players being asked to play minutes above their pay-grade).

  132. OriginalPouzar says:

    OmJo:
    We don’t have a top pairing Dman or a top line winger (minus C Draisaitl ofc)?

    Correct, however, I see much more potential for that top line winger in our system that I do for a 1/2 right shot D.

  133. OriginalPouzar says:

    Harpers Hair: And any of this makes a difference, how?

    think its fairly obvious but I will explain nonetheless.

    While I hope for the Oilers to win every game they play, I see no issue with hoping for the teams around them in the standings to also win. No sure thing on anything, but nothing wrong with having 7% greater odds.

    Hoping the flames miss the playoffs.

  134. OriginalPouzar says:

    There are some rumblings that Slepyshev’s KHL team is trying to bring him back for next year (source: Beerleagueheros).

    He needs to be qualified at $875K and could probably make more in the KHL.

    First things, offer him a one way deal so he gets paid full NHL money no matter what.

    I think 2 years X $1.5M or so should be able to keep him.

  135. JimmyV1965 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    There are some rumblings that Slepyshev’s KHL team is trying to bring him back for next year (source: Beerleagueheros).

    He needs to be qualified at $875K and could probably make more in the KHL.

    First things, offer him a one way deal so he gets paid full NHL money no matter what.

    I think 2 years X $1.5M or so should be able to keep him.

    Shit!! Frickin KHL

  136. OriginalPouzar says:

    From an interview I recall Slepy being pretty commuted to the NHL – this was a few years ago I think.

  137. Professor Q says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    From an interview I recall Slepy being pretty commuted to the NHL – this was a few years ago I think.

    I say this all the time when people fear him going back. He has said he’s committed to the NHL and knew the AHL was the best place for development as opppsed to the KHL. He had focus, so to speak. As opposed to how Yakimov became?

    Yikes. Maybe all his Yo-Yoing actually might have caused the same disturbance in the focus…

  138. OmJo says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    From an interview I recall Slepy being pretty commuted to the NHL – this was a few years ago I think.

    Before he met TMac probably

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