G82 2017-18: Canucks at Oilers

We reach the final chapter of the Oilers 2017-18 season, a bitter disappointment after a very hopeful start. In the days to come, management will have to pick up the pieces and begin the process of fixing the holes where the rain comes in. The formula of 2016-17 (McDavid scores, Talbot stops, everyone else hang on) folded and with it the playoff chances of this team. It is now the challenge of management to close the gap between McDavid ON and McDavid OFF. It is surely Everest.

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HOME PLATE, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers in April 2016: 1-1-0, goal differential -1, two points
  • Oilers in April 2017: 1-1-0, goal differential -1, two points 
  • Oilers in April 2018: 1-1-0, goal differential -2, two points
  • April 9, 2016: Vancouver 4, Edmonton 3 (SO) (Source)
  • April 6, 2017: Edmonton 4, San Jose 2 (Source)

AFTER 81, YEAR OVER YEAR

  • Oilers 15-16: 31-43-7, goal differential -49 (69 points)
  • Oilers 16-17: 46-26-9, goal differential +41 (101 points)
  • Oilers 17-18: 35-40-6, goal differential -33 (76 points)
  • April 9, 2016: Vancouver 4, Edmonton 3 (SO) (Source)
  • April 9, 2017: Edmonton 5, Vancouver 2 (Source)

The 15-16 team finished with 70 points, last season’s team 103. This year’s model will finish anywhere from 76-78 and we’ll see if that’s enough to save jobs. I suspect we’ll see some movement in the coaching staff but that’s a guess and the most important roster work will go down in June.

WHAT TO EXPECT FROM APRIL

  • On the road to: Minnesota (Expected 0-1-0) (Actual 0-1-0)
  • At home to: Vegas, Vancouver (Expected 1-1-0) (Actual 1-0-0)
  • Overall expected results: 1-2-0, two points in three games
  • Overall actual results: 1-1-0, two points in two games

CURRENT 2018-19 50-MAN

  • RFA (not on the list above): Nick Ellis, Darnell Nurse, Matt Benning, Ben Betker, Drake Caggiula, Braden Christoffer, Ryan Strome, Kyle Platzer, Anton Slepyshev, Iiro Pakarinen, Patrick Russell. (11)
  • UFA (not on the list above): Laurent Brossoit, Mark Fayne, Yohann Auvitu, Keegan Lowe, Joey Laleggia, Dillon Simpson, Grayson Downing, Mike Cammalleri, Ty Rattie, Brian Ferlin. (10)
  • I believe this to be correct, let me know if something is missing.
  • Among RFA’s, locks to return are Darnell Nurse. I believe the Oilers will also sign Matt Benning, Drake Caggiula, Ryan Strome and Iiro Pakarinen. That’s five additional players, setting the 50-man at 34 men.
  • Among UFA’s, locks to return are Ty Rattie. I believe the Oilers will also sign Keegan Lowe and Mike Cammalleri. That gets us to 37 men.
  • I believe the priority is a big RH defender, that could be anyone from John Carlson to Tyson Barrie to Kris Letang to Matt Dumba. I don’t think this should be a priority, a healthy Klefbom would be a big help plus Sekera can play that position.
  • Wingers with scoring ability and forwards who can penalty kill are the main need, I would add a substantial backup ala Anders Nilsson.

Based on reports (Edmonton Prospect Watch, Vaughn Woodruff) Samorukov had an early ill-advised pinch and then settled in and played well. Tyler Benson had a dandy early chance (great save by the goalie) but was otherwise quiet. Josh Currie scored No. 20 on the year, Bakersfield lost 4-1 and would have to win out to make the second season.

HUMBOLDT BRONCOS

I wish there was something I could say. The cruelty of this story is everywhere, from the extreme youth to the number of people lost (14) in one prairie highway accident. Humboldt is about three hours from the place I spent most of my school years, an hour past Saskatoon. It’s about ten times the size of Maidstone but remains a small place. Great fishing, bird watching, a fabulous old train station last time I was there, everyone knows everyone else and they love their hockey team. Nicest people you want to meet. If you ever have your car break down on the highway, pray you’re near Humboldt.

Now that community will be known for a stunning tragedy. I’ve been getting dm’s and texts from people who knew some of the kids involved, and everyone is shattered. Just wrecked, today. The hockey community is spread far and wide, yet is very close. I know there are neighbours of mine who have connections to that bus and I further know no one slept worth a damn last night. Some tomorrow we’ll find out what happened, but in the end that’s all details and we are left to hug the stuffing out of the survivors and all families/billets/coaches/trainers/friends involved. We lost some of our kids last night, and it’s impossible to bear. I know everyone will want to pitch in, they’re going to need blood and there’s a gofundme set up online for these families.

We’re all sitting on that patch of highway today, head in hands and wondering what on earth went wrong, why this happened. I’m not on the air today and honestly it’s a relief. I have no idea what to say.

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  1. BONE207 says:

    Everytime I see Strome with a great chance, I can imagine him saying that those damn Lowetidians will be saying I’ll never score again damn them!!!

  2. jp says:

    Solid penalty Kass

  3. BONE207 says:

    jp:
    Solid penalty Kass

    An actual nhl team would score

  4. Munny says:

    Tabernac!

  5. Gerta Rauss says:

    Jokinen ties it…lol

    you can’t write this stuff….

  6. BONE207 says:

    Jokinen…of course

  7. StixMalone says:

    Jokkinen ? Really?

  8. OmJo says:

    Of course Jussi Jokinen scores.

  9. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Who was Nurse defending there? They left Jokinen untouched.

  10. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    BONE207:
    Everytime I see Strome with a great chance, I can imagine him saying that those damn Lowetidians will be saying I’ll never score again damn them!!!

    Strome is what he is, folks. I know he looks like he could have the tools to be more.But Isles fans were saying the same thing forever.

  11. BONE207 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    Who was Nurse defending there? They left Jokinen untouched.

    You would think that with Darrell’s talent he would be hassling anyone near Talbot. Where is the thought process?

  12. frjohnk says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Strome is what he is, folks. I know he looks like he could have the tools to be more.But Isles fans were saying the same thing forever.

    Isles fans for Oiler GM!

  13. Munny says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Strome is what he is, folks. I know he looks like he could have the tools to be more.But Isles fans were saying the same thing forever.

    Yeah the BJs fans felt the same way about Karlsson too…

    😉

  14. Lowetide says:

    After One

    1-1 tie
    Shots: 10-7 Canucks
    Corsi for 5×5: 17-15 Edmonton

    That 97 pass to Leon was gorgeous.

  15. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Munny: Yeah the BJs fans felt the same way about Karlsson too…

    Mmm apples to oranges. Karlsson was never given premium minutes. Strome has. PP time, used to get top 6 minutes, etc.

    The opportunities he has had are much greater.

  16. rickithebear says:

    Looking at the 20 < 2.80 gpg per team seasons since 97-98.
    The forwards with 25g 70pt in thier 21-22 year seasons.
    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Crosby
    P.Kane
    Draisaitl.
    8.25M for that!
    STFU morons!

  17. OmJo says:

    Bullshit that was called a goal. If it was the Oilers that would have been called offside 100% of the time.

  18. Wilde says:

    MacKinnon is getting narrative points for the Hart race tonight

  19. Professor Q says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Mmm apples to oranges. Karlsson was never given premium minutes. Strome has. PP time, used to get top 6 minutes, etc.

    The opportunities he has had are much greater.

    Wasn’t it a choice between Atkinson and Karlsson? Hence why Columbus traded 24th OV and Clarkson to Vegas so they’d select Karlsson and get rid of a contract while limiting impact?

  20. Professor Q says:

    OmJo:
    Bullshit that was called a goal. If it was the Oilers that would have been called offside 100% of the time.

    After being called a goal and reviewed a few times.

  21. BONE207 says:

    Wilde:
    MacKinnon is getting narrative points for the Hart race tonight

    Narrative points…is that when you get to write your own ballot for the trophy?

  22. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    Professor Q: Wasn’t it a choice between Atkinson and Karlsson? Hence why Columbus traded 24th OV and Clarkson to Vegas so they’d select Karlsson and get rid of a contract while limiting impact?

    This, too. My point was that if you are expecting Strome to blossom a la Karlsson, don’t hold your breath.

  23. frjohnk says:

    rickithebear:
    Looking at the 20 < 2.80 gpgper team seasons since 97-98.
    The forwards with 25g 70pt in thier 21-22 year seasons.
    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Crosby
    P.Kane
    Draisaitl.
    8.25M for that!
    STFU morons!

    And every one of them played with McDavid right?

  24. Harpers Hair says:

    AV fired in NY. See ya later Todd

  25. BONE207 says:

    Drai was passing to…?

  26. OilClog says:

    rickithebear:
    Looking at the 20 < 2.80 gpgper team seasons since 97-98.
    The forwards with 25g 70pt in thier 21-22 year seasons.
    Ovechkin
    Malkin
    Crosby
    P.Kane
    Draisaitl.
    8.25M for that!
    STFU morons!

    Give me my meds back! Lol

  27. Lowetide says:

    Rangers fire Vigneault as per Bob McKenzie.

  28. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    8.5m for 5 RFA years is the issue. Not the player.

  29. Wilde says:

    Why does the O blueline scare the offensive ambition out Darnell instantly upon contact?

  30. BONE207 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker):
    8.5m for 5 RFA years is the issue. Not the player.

    Bears abusing drugs is an issue too!!!

  31. Gret99zky says:

    TBH I hope both Chiarelli and TMc are gone.

    I don’t expect it though.

  32. BONE207 says:

    Wilde:
    Why does the O blueline scare the offensive ambition out Darnell instantly upon contact?

    Huh…really? I thought it scared the defensive ambitions out of him.

  33. Munny says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Mmm apples to oranges. Karlsson was never given premium minutes. Strome has. PP time, used to get top 6 minutes, etc.

    The opportunities he has had are much greater.

    Karlsson got powerplay time here and there. And took a regular shift for two full seasons without a scratch, mostly on the 3rd line (same as Strome for many games) on a deeper team than the Oil.

    Difference is in degree, not so much type, methinks.

    And “fans” never means “all fans” but is often presented that way. Is it a convincing argument when we’re discussing the specific, and not the general? What about the ones who disagree… I mean there are so many viewpoints on any given issue or player that saying fans could be used to support just about anything. Anyhow no offense, just how I see it.

    Not saying Strome is going to turn into Karlsson or anything. But who knows? Odds are against it, as they were Karlsson–VGK themselves have admitted they had no idea–but doesn’t mean Strome can’t turn a corner.

  34. Munny says:

    Lowetide:
    Rangers fire Vigneault as per Bob McKenzie.

    That’s the guy I’d take if no Q. Assuming TMac terminated.

  35. Ben says:

    Hire Vigneault and sign Fiddler, stat!

  36. Bling says:

    Is JP hurt? Haven’t seen him out there for awhile.

  37. Professor Q says:

    Lowetide:
    Rangers fire Vigneault as per Bob McKenzie.

    The Sedins retire, and Vigneault returns out West with Edmonton to beat Vancouver and Calgary in the playoffs and take another Canadian team to the Finals, successful this time.

    Beautiful potential.

  38. Wilde says:

    Bling,

    He’s walking the plank for a turnover

  39. OmJo says:

    The hockey equivalent of a dunk?

  40. Wilde says:

    Hahahaha oh my god

  41. Munny says:

    Halfway thru

    All right,pitter patter…

    I need to go drink away all the sorrows of a Tabernac Season.

    Medics are standing by.

    Have a good night, gents. You have made the misery of this mockery of an abominable season sufferable. Yet again. *weeps*

    Ahh, Tabernac again! On that note…

  42. Gerta Rauss says:

    OmJo:
    The hockey equivalent of a dunk?

    It looked like travelling to me

  43. rickithebear says:

    frjohnk: And every one of them played with McDavid right?

    Let’s look at draisatl,s playoff history since 14-15
    14-15
    WHL Playoff MVP
    Memorial cup MVP

    15-16
    Top 3 fwd for Germany World Cup

    16-17
    Carried Germany to Olympic Qualification.
    World Cup critical goal scorer team Europe
    A leading conn Smythe candidate NHL playoffs at elimination.

    Frojohn
    Who carries the oilers in reg season?
    McDavid!
    Who carries his teams in playoffs?
    Draisaitl

    You guys really are awful when it comes to thinking playoffs.

    Fucking Embarrasing boys!

    Taking shots at me.
    It’s allowed

    When you are unaware about carrying in the tough times!
    You clueless bastards! (with Irish Accent)

    It’s allowed,
    Right LT!

  44. Professor Q says:

    Well, that was Motte what we were hoping for…

  45. Lowetide says:

    Nuge scored.

  46. Gerta Rauss says:

    Nuge..!!….McPoints..!!

  47. Professor Q says:

    OmJo:
    The hockey equivalent of a dunk?

    Damn Nurse and his Basketball-Hockey-Football family genes…

  48. StixMalone says:

    Don’t ever trade sweet baby Nuge! Are you listening Chia?

  49. russ99 says:

    Leon was an RFA after being 8th in the NHL in scoring at age 21.

    And if you take away his slow start due to concussion, he’s pretty much on a similar pace this year.

    You don’t bridge a player like that, since you’ll lose him when it’s over.

    There’s lots of things to complain about this year, Leon’s contract is not one of them.

  50. BONE207 says:

    I actually think the curling match is more exciting today

  51. StixMalone says:

    Where or where will Alain V end up next season? Maybe a poll is required?….

  52. russ99 says:

    StixMalone,

    10 bucks says Calgary.

  53. flyfish1168 says:

    1st Coach Fired

    Alain Vigneault

  54. digger50 says:

    Okay, bench that 97 guy.

  55. OmJo says:

    russ99:
    Leon was an RFA after being 8th in the NHL in scoring at age 21.

    And if you take away his slow start due to concussion, he’s pretty much on a similar pace this year.

    You don’t bridge a player like that, since you’ll lose him when it’s over.

    There’s lots of things to complain about this year, Leon’s contract is not one of them.

    Part of the plan with bridging Drai was playing him exclusively as 2C.

  56. russ99 says:

    OmJo,

    As far as I can tell, that was the plan after his contract too. But two things happened, Nuge got a 2nd line offensive push, and Chia didn’t bring in enough wingers in the offseason for Leon on the third line. Then we lost early and had trouble scoring, and McLellan went back to Leon at RW.

    Next year has to be different.

  57. StixMalone says:

    russ99,

    Maybe Buffalo. Then he won’t have far to move lol

  58. Offside says:

    No matter who you blame for this debacle; it’s a fricken crime that the hockey world will be denied the opportunity to watch McDavid in the playoffs

  59. Professor Q says:

    Offside:
    No matter who you blame for this debacle; it’s a fricken crime that the hockey world will be denied the opportunity to watch McDavid in the playoffs

    Hey now, at least we’ll all be able to see him represent Canada in lieu of said playoffs.

  60. Caller Zen says:

    McDavid with 84 even strength points this year – most since 1998. Incredible.

  61. BONE207 says:

    StixMalone:
    russ99,

    Maybe Buffalo. Then he won’t have far to move lol

    Keep his licence plates too

  62. StixMalone says:

    Professor Q,

    I personally can’t wait for the World Cup to start. Should be a good series for Connor.

  63. N64 says:

    Wilde:
    MacKinnon is getting narrative points for the Hart race tonight

    ~ His team faced elimination tonight because he went 8 straight games without a goal. ~

    One man’s narrative is another man’s cherry picking.

  64. rickithebear says:

    RNH
    Has averaged
    70gm 18g 29A 47p
    His whole career avg facing lower 1st comp.

    With McDavid
    16gm 8g 9a 17p +14 1.06 PPG
    Best since 1.08 PPG under Nelson facing 2nd comp with Eberle.

  65. Lowetide says:

    After Two:

    2-2 tie (1-1 in the second)
    Shots: 23-20 Vancouver (13-13 in the second)
    Corsi for 5×5: 41-32 Edmonton (23-17 Edmonton in the second)

  66. Harpers Hair says:

    russ99:
    StixMalone,

    10 bucks says Calgary.

    That’s a pretty good bet

  67. Bag of Pucks says:

    Caller Zen:
    McDavid with 84 even strength points this year – most since 1998. Incredible.

    Hart Trophy worthy in fact.

  68. OmJo says:

    russ99,

    After giving him the contract it’s too late. You’re committed to the player being paid as a top 10 player in the league without seeing if he is indeed a top 10 player in the league.

    He wouldn’t be commanding 8.5M this summer as an RFA after the season he’s had. He hasn’t had a bad season, please don’t interpret this as me hating the player. I just think the team should have been more patient before throwing 8.5M at him. Like they should have done with Nuge and Eberle.

  69. Bag of Pucks says:

    Harpers Hair:
    AV fired in NY. See ya later Todd

    Dare to dream.

  70. rickithebear says:

    StixMalone:
    Professor Q,

    I personally can’t wait for the World Cup to start. Should be a good series for Connor.

    His winger RNH?

  71. Offside says:

    Professor Q,

    I appreciate your silver lining 🙂

  72. Captain's Log says:

    OmJo:
    russ99,

    After giving him the contract it’s too late. You’re committed to the player being paid as a top 10 player in the league without seeing if he is indeed a top 10 player in the league.

    He wouldn’t be commanding 8.5M this summer as an RFA after the season he’s had. He hasn’t had a bad season, please don’t interpret this as me hating the player.I just think the team should have been more patient before throwing 8.5M at him. Like they should have done with Nuge and Eberle.

    But he’s a 56% faceoff guy this year! 15th in the league for at least 200 faceoffs.

  73. Jaxon says:

    Am I understanding their lottery odds correctly? They cannot finish 8th last, only 7th or 9th? If they get to overtime or win tonight they’ll end up in 7th last position and draft 1,2,3,7,8, or 9. If they lose tonight they’ll end up in 9th last position and draft 1,2,3,9,10, or 11? Dropping 2 draft Spots in one meaningless game is a substantial drop. Go Sedins!!!???!?!?

  74. Bag of Pucks says:

    Draisaitl has more points than Tarasenko, Matthews, and Eichel this season.

  75. Ribs says:

    Can we convince Vigneault to come be an Assistant Coach in charge of the special teams?

  76. Bag of Pucks says:

    League scoring right now:

    6. Hall
    8. Kessel
    9. Wheeler

    Chiarelli has traded them all. There’s no getting around it. That’s pretty damning.

  77. frjohnk says:

    rickithebear: Let’s look at draisatl,s playoff history

    You guys really are awful when it comes to thinking playoffs.

    Fucking Embarrasing boys!

    Taking shots at me.
    It’s allowed

    When you are unaware about carrying in the tough times!
    You clueless bastards! (with Irish Accent)

    Says the guy who calls everyone bastards and morons.

    If you would get off your high horse, allow yourself to take some constructive criticism without name calling, admit you are wrong many times (we all are) you would be better received.

    When somebody does some good work on here, you cut them down, tell them they are wrong etc. Others you claim they have stolen your work. Nobody really knows where your work is as there is no database from you. Nothing peer reviewed or tested. People are gonna call you out.

    Look, I think you are an intelligent guy and you have some good ideas but if your data calculations are telling you that Mark Fistruc is one of the best DMen in the last ten years, then you just may want to go back and rework the calculation.

    Treat people better Ricki and they will return the favour.

  78. Gerta Rauss says:

    Jaxon:
    Am I understanding their lottery odds correctly? They cannot finish 8th last, only 7th or 9th? If they get to overtime or win tonight they’ll end up in 7th last position and draft 1,2,3,7,8, or 9. If they lose tonight they’ll end up in 9th last position and draft 1,2,3,9,10, or 11? Dropping 2 draft Spots in one meaningless game is a substantial drop. Go Sedins!!!???!?!?

    I believe it’s

    L= 7th (CHI has more ROW)
    OTL= 8th -teams tied with ROW so it’s head to head record(Rangers won both games of the season series)
    W = 78 points and 9th

    If I understand the tie breakers

  79. BONE207 says:

    Lucic saving his highlight reel goals for preseason

  80. srisribillyg says:

    MacKinnon 1G, 1A, GWG in playoff-clinching win for Colorado. Hart ballot getting crowded. Can see arguments being made for Giroux, Hall, Kucherov, Malkin. Envision a scenario where McDavid wins the Hart with a plurality by virtue of being the second choice on a majority of ballots.

  81. Captain's Log says:

    How many more years guys?

  82. Nailer Yakumoto says:

    rickithebear:
    RNH
    Has averaged
    70gm 18g 29A 47p
    His whole career avg facing lower 1st comp.

    With McDavid
    16gm 8g 9a 17p +14 1.06 PPG
    Best since 1.08 PPG under Nelson facing 2nd comp with Eberle.

    I understood this whole Rickithebear post. I’d better put down this beer.

  83. StixMalone says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Did Freidman say AV is owed 8 million for the remaining 2 years of his contract? Wow!

  84. srisribillyg says:

    In other news, Mark Jankowski just scored his fourth goal of the game. There’s 16 minutes left to play in the third period. Squeaky bum time for whoever is the potential Safeway Score and Win millionaire!

  85. Captain's Log says:

    Draisaitl has no awareness defensively as a centre. How many times does he watch the play go the other way before you see him bury his head and start skating back?

  86. Ribs says:

    Sheeeeezzzzzzzz

  87. npanciroli says:

    Not a big Vigneault fan.

  88. Bag of Pucks says:

    StixMalone:
    Bag of Pucks,

    Did Freidman say AV is owed 8 million for the remaining 2 years of his contract? Wow!

    Yup, these guys deserve it though. Extremely high stress gig with zero job security.

  89. BONE207 says:

    Captain’s Log:
    How many more years guys?

    I think I’m good for a couple more. I live clean

  90. Caller Zen says:

    Funny, if the Canucks get the 2 points tonight, they will climb (or lose?) a spot and pass Detroit to place #6. Hah!

  91. OmJo says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    Draisaitl has more points than Tarasenko, Matthews, and Eichel this season.

    Matthews and Eichel have higher Pts/Gp. And Tarasenko has 0 TOI with McDavid this season an has 3 less points (in 3 extra games).

    If Draisaitl had top 6 wingers that would probably be different. But not the best comparisons.

    How has Pastrnak done this season?

  92. OmJo says:

    I like Rattie as an NHL player but man that top line needs a goal scorer.

  93. Gret99zky says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    League scoring right now:

    6. Hall
    8. Kessel
    9. Wheeler

    Chiarelli has traded them all. There’s no getting around it. That’s pretty damning.

    6. Hall

    Fireable offense.

    Unforgivable.

  94. Bag of Pucks says:

    npanciroli:
    Not a big Vigneault fan.

    10th all time in regular season wins. 13th all time in playoff wins. The latter is 4th best among active coaches.

    Two Finals appearances with two different teams.

  95. rickithebear says:

    To the guy questioning the price for RFA years.

    Look at the 5 year rfa contracts.
    The goal and Ppg rates.
    6 Million for 5 years.
    Then look at the years beyond bought.
    You get a rate increase per season add for PPG players in .07 PPG intervals.
    Draisatl,s group is 750k per season.
    6M + ( .75 + .75 + .75 ) = 8.25M

    Prose and Personal Narritive makes people like you.

    But truth based on facts does not make friends.

    Be a little less Stu

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVA-Bx4rNc0

    A little more Dennis

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

    Data, analysis, facts are OK.

  96. npanciroli says:

    I want a late Sedin goal for the win.

  97. npanciroli says:

    Bag of Pucks,

    Maybe it’s the Vancouver stink.

  98. OmJo says:

    Bag of Pucks: 10th all time in regular season wins. 13th all time in playoff wins. The latter is 4th best among active coaches.

    Two Finals appearances with two different teams.

    He also coached two good teams with excellent goaltending, good depth, and solid defence as his last two teams.

    None of that is us.

    I’d be surprised if he wanted to come here.

  99. rickithebear says:

    OmJo: Matthews and Eichel have higher Pts/Gp. And Tarasenko has 0 TOI with McDavid this season an has 3 less points (in 3 extra games).

    If Draisaitl had top 6 wingers that would probably be different. But not the best comparisons.

    How has Pastrnak done this season?

    Law of repeatability.

    They are not replaced by like players when injured.
    It is #13-17 fwd.

    That matters a lot.

  100. Bag of Pucks says:

    OmJo: Matthews and Eichel have higher Pts/Gp. And Tarasenko has 0 TOI with McDavid this season an has 3 less points (in 3 extra games).

    If Draisaitl had top 6 wingers that would probably be different. But not the best comparisons.

    How has Pastrnak done this season?

    My point is Leon’s contract is not horrible. He’s been a very productive player on a team with a shite power play and his Ws have been a revolving door.

  101. hunter1909 says:

    End of Season Observations:

    JP needs an NHL fight to wake him up to finally turn into the dominating monster he’s destined to become.

    Keegan Lowe – Like this prospect a lot. Great eyes for the game, just like his father I honestly think Oilers got themselves a steal here.

    Milan Lucic – looks like a fat kid playing road hockey.

  102. Rondo says:

    If Oilers lose in regulation the finished #7 before the lottery. If they win or lose in overtime they finish #9.

  103. Jaxon says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    League scoring right now:

    6. Hall
    8. Kessel
    9. Wheeler

    Chiarelli has traded them all. There’s no getting around it. That’s pretty damning.

    Seguin having a somewhat down season at 24th and Eberle is 76th. 76th is still top in the top half of 3rd best player on every.

    To take it a bit further:
    Even Strength Scoring since 11-12 Season
    4. Wheeler
    6. Seguin
    9. Kessel
    11. Hall
    17. Eberle
    32. Lucic (letting him go when he did was his best move until he picked him up again at a much higher price)

  104. Bag of Pucks says:

    OmJo: He also coached two good teams with excellent goaltending, good depth, and solid defence as his last two teams.

    None of that is us.

    I’d be surprised if he wanted to come here.

    Both of those teams were middling contenders that he turned into Cup contenders.

    McDavid will attract good coaches. I agree Vigneault has benefitted from having good goalies in his career: Theodore, Luongo, Lundqvist. He did coach Talbot too.

  105. OmJo says:

    I liked Anders Nilsson when he was an Oiler.

  106. npanciroli says:

    Good penalty Cagguila

  107. Gerta Rauss says:

    hunter1909,

    Are you going to announce the winner of the Death March tonight..?

  108. rickithebear says:

    OmJo: He also coached two good teams with excellent goaltending, good depth, and solid defence as his last two teams.

    None of that is us.

    I’d be surprised if he wanted to come here.

    You spouted more awful observations in a short period than anyone on here.
    Including obvious.

    We ran Eakins abandon HD area.

    Just educate you.
    That is the area we’re the average HD shot goes in 17.5% of the time.
    Abandoning it to chase corsi count at the perimeter.
    We’re pucks go in 3.5 % of the time.

    That means we have to reduce CA by 350-500% to have that system be effective.

    That is bat shit (Eakins, Tmac) crazy.

  109. Bag of Pucks says:

    Jaxon: Seguin having a somewhat down season at 24th and Eberle is 76th. 76th is still top in the top half of 3rd best player on every.

    To take it a bit further:
    Even Strength Scoring since 11-12 Season
    4. Wheeler
    6. Seguin
    9. Kessel
    11. Hall
    17. Eberle
    32. Lucic (letting him go when he did was his best move until he picked him up again at a much higher price)

    Agreed but Seguin wasn’t solely his call. That Bruins version of Oil Change showed Neely was the big advocate to trade Seguin.

    Interesting to note how often Chiarelli has traded players over perceived/alleged ‘character’ issues: Kessel, Seguin, Hall. It hasn’t worked out well.

  110. Professor Q says:

    Bag of Pucks:
    League scoring right now:

    6. Hall
    8. Kessel
    9. Wheeler

    Chiarelli has traded them all. There’s no getting around it. That’s pretty damning.

    24. Tyler Seguin
    414. Johnny Boychuk

  111. OmJo says:

    Bag of Pucks: Both of those teams were middling contenders that he turned into Cup contenders.

    McDavid will attract good coaches. I agree Vigneault has benefitted from having good goalies in his career: Theodore, Luongo, Lundqvist. He did coach Talbot too.

    True. He’s not a bad player by any means and he’s producing very well, especially considering the depth on this team.

    I’d just like to see him take a major step forward away from McDavid, like his comparables are doing. His contract isn’t the worst thing ever. I just wish it was $2M less than it was per year. That said, if Lucic and Russell’s contracts didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t care so much about the extra $2M in cap space.

  112. Bag of Pucks says:

    hunter1909:
    End of Season Observations:

    JP needs an NHL fight to wake him up to finally turn into the dominating monster he’s destined to become.

    Was thinking the exact same thing tonight.

  113. OmJo says:

    Honestly, I’m only watching this game to see how the Oilers give the Sedins a sendoff at the end of the game.

  114. OmJo says:

    Bear having a tough game. Literally. Taking a lot of punishment from the puck..

  115. npanciroli says:

    Puljujärvi still a kid, not worried at all about him. Draisaitl at 8.5 is fine, we have way worse issues like Lucic, Russell, maybe Sekera now.

  116. BONE207 says:

    rickithebear: You spouted more awful observations in a short period than anyone on here.

    Just educate you.

    How in the world can anyone take advice on gaining knowledge from someone grasping at the use of grade school english?

  117. Younger Oil says:

    Nice of Todd to put Lucic out for the last minute to give the Sedins the best chance to score.

  118. OmJo says:

    But what will they tell Perry?

  119. OmJo says:

    I feel like the Oilers were trying to let the Sedins score there.

  120. Ribs says:

    Why would Talbot stop that?

  121. OmJo says:

    BONE207: How in the world can anyone take advice on gaining knowledge from someone grasping at the use of grade school english?

    Well not everybody has English as their first language.

  122. Professor Q says:

    Nurse is getting angry it seems.

    I hope Bear is okay…

  123. digger50 says:

    Come on Vancouver, Oilers gave you that period. Connor let off the gas. They couldn’t do any more other than score on themselves.

  124. StixMalone says:

    The one game we needed a loss and they can’t even do that right….jeez

  125. OmJo says:

    If identical twins marry identical twins, will their children look like identical twins?

  126. Ribs says:

    digger50:
    Come on Vancouver, Oilers gave you that period. Connor let off the gas. They couldn’t do any more other than score on themselves.

    Russell in overtime?

  127. hunter1909 says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    hunter1909,

    Are you going to announce the winner of the Death March tonight..?

    You’d be lucky to see the standings update.

  128. BONE207 says:

    OmJo: Well not everybody has English as their first language.

    Maybe you’re right. He has a french keyboard

  129. Jaxon says:

    Bag of Pucks: Agreed but Seguin wasn’t solely his call. That Bruins version of Oil Change showed Neely was the big advocate to trade Seguin.

    Interesting to note how often Chiarelli has traded players over perceived/alleged ‘character’ issues: Kessel, Seguin, Hall. It hasn’t worked out well.

    Here’s another one.
    ES Pts since 13-14 Season
    11. Hamilton
    42. Schultz
    48. Boychuk

    Or
    ES Pts Since 16-17 Season
    8. Hamilton
    35. Schultz

  130. OmJo says:

    McDavid is being a class act right now. I saw what he did there.

  131. Professor Q says:

    OmJo:
    If identical twins marry identical twins, will their children look like identical twins?

    I believe they would genetically be fairly similar, yes. But still have minor differences. I think Discovery/Nat Geo had a few documentaries about this.

  132. Ribs says:

    Haha, buddy thought he was winning a race with McDavid. Not so much.

  133. OmJo says:

    don’t let this go to shootout please

  134. OmJo says:

    OMG

  135. Gerta Rauss says:

    hunter1909: You’d be lucky to see the standings update.

    Suspicious fire at the Hunter compound HQ..?

  136. npanciroli says:

    Russell you twit

  137. Younger Oil says:

    Kris Russell will be the most hated player in hockey for the next 24 hours.

  138. Ribs says:

    Awww, Russell had his chance and blew it, lol.

  139. Captain's Log says:

    OmJo:
    If identical twins marry identical twins, will their children look like identical twins?

    Professor Q: I believe they would genetically be fairly similar, yes. But still have minor differences. I think Discovery/Nat Geo had a few documentaries about this.

    If a husband and wife have two boys, will they look like identical twins? No.

    Same concept applies to your scenario

  140. OmJo says:

    Atta boy Talbot

  141. Jaxon says:

    Younger Oil:
    Kris Russell will be the most hated player in hockey for the next 24 hours.

    For multiple reasons, denying a great player on his last game and possibly decreasing the Oilers chance at Dahlin.

  142. OmJo says:

    Atta boy McDavid!

  143. Professor Q says:

    Ribs:
    Awww, Russell had his chance and blew it, lol.

    Another missed Empty Net, I’m guessing?

    My feed is lagging.

  144. Younger Oil says:

    Professor Q,

    Stopped a Sedin goal on the goaline

  145. OmJo says:

    Really?

  146. Jaxon says:

    Can the Sedins shoot again if they continue?

  147. OmJo says:

    Well it’s too bad the Sedins didn’t score in OT.

  148. JonyPro says:

    Jaxon,

    That’s international games only I think.

  149. Gerta Rauss says:

    lol….oh those Oilers…9th OV it is…

    It doesn’t matter, we’re going to win one of the lotto spots

  150. JonyPro says:

    I liked how nice all 3 Oiler shootout goals were.

  151. OmJo says:

    It’s fitting, in a way.

    Smyth ended his career against the Canucks.

    The Sedins end their against the Oilers.

  152. russ99 says:

    Jaxon,

    Screw that, Daniel Sedin plagued us for almost two decades. Don’t want the villain to score his last goal to win in our barn.

    Besides, doesn’t matter if we draft 7, 8 or 9, we’ll get a good player.

  153. Ribs says:

    Sedin’s push the game to the limit and lose in their final outing. Fitting, I guess.

  154. Bag of Pucks says:

    Class acts.

  155. Gerta Rauss says:

    Does 78 points save Todd’s job..?

    I don’t think it does

  156. OmJo says:

    Credit to every Oiler fan in that arena for staying and giving them a standing ovation like that.

    one of my prouder moments of being an Oiler fan today.

  157. Professor Q says:

    Captain’s Log: Professor Q: I believe they would genetically be fairly similar, yes. But still have minor differences. I think Discovery/Nat Geo had a few documentaries about this.

    “If a husband and wife have two boys, will they look like identical twins? No.

    Same concept applies to your scenario”

    I’m sensing some snark here, and I don’t know what I did to deserve it, but to put it scientifically, they would still have different mixtures of DNA from each partner, but as two sets of identical twins (highly similar DNA), they’d share a higher percentage of DNA (each twin coupled pair) than regular coupled pairs, and thus be closer genetically and have a higher percentage chance to look highly similar to their cousins.

    However, they have no higher chance of having identical twins than regular parent sets. Though that’s always something to see when it occurs.

    And nowadays you can even produce offspring from merging two male DNA sets (skin samples etc.), two female DNA sets (two eggs), or even with more than two DNA sets, like 2 female and one male. Three partners is the common number currently but could grow to more, like the 6-10 parents people have in The Expanse. Provides a higher chance of more stable genetics.

  158. Ribs says:

    Professor Q: Another missed Empty Net, I’m guessing?

    My feed is lagging.

    I was hinting that Russell would score on himself in overtime in response to digger just before Russell deflects a puck away from the goal line… in overtime.

  159. striatic says:

    I’m gonna miss those Piss Cutters. End of an era.

  160. Ribs says:

    It’s not funny that I was going to enter 77pts into hunter’s pool at the start of the season but decided against it because I didn’t want to stir any bad juju.

  161. Jaxon says:

    Oilers in 9th going into the Lottery. So they’ll be drafting one of 1,2,3,9,10,11 or 12.
    Odds:

    #1 5%
    #2 5.3%
    #3 5.7%
    #9 48.8%
    #10 30.7%
    #11 4.3%
    #12 0.1%

    This is who I hope they pick depending on where they draft and who is likely available:
    #1 Dahlin
    #2 Svechnikov
    #3 Svechnikov
    #9 Veleno
    #10 Veleno
    #11 Merkley
    #12 Merkley

  162. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909 201716 Death Marches!! Semi-final official standings:

    Emergency! Death March™

    3 early players were spot on in their prediction of 78 points. Let’s congratulate

    Van Isle Oil
    What If
    Remlap13

    All who are declared winners of the Emergency Deathmarch™

    REGULAR SEASON DEATHMARCH™

    Mr Debakey
    Cash-McMoney!
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    Are all declared winners(and the least delusional) of all the Lowetide/Deathmarch community.

    winners must contact us by email to receive prizes. Emergency Deathmarch! later players who haven’t been counted until the evidence is hidden please be patient. Your names will be be on the site within 30 days, and any retroactive winners are eligible for all prizes.

  163. Professor Q says:

    Ribs:
    It’s not funny that I was going to enter 77pts into hunter’s pool at the start of the season but decided against it because I didn’t want to stir any bad juju.

    Oates for breakfast for you, it seems.

  164. Gret99zky says:

    Tomorrow morning headline:

    Peter Chiarelli and Todd McLellan have been relieved of their duties with the Edmonton Oilers organization.

    *crosses fingers*

  165. deardylan says:

    Oilers win in OT
    McDavid Art Ross
    Twins cheered by Oilers Fans
    Class Act of Organisation
    Canada and All of Hockey United
    That Life is Brief
    Life is Beautiful
    And each moment and relationship is precious
    Thank You For Lowetide, Original Pouzar and Pouzar and
    The rest of the colourfull commentators over the past year
    I forgive and forget all the pain
    And remember the gains and last emotional night
    And I happily give our GM and Coach and Players +1

    LT you made this Cheers
    One of my favorite places to visit each day.
    Felt like Cheers Online!

    Cheers,

    Dylan

  166. AshetonisGod says:

    Gret99zky,

    As long as it’s not followed by new HC Paul Coffey and new GM MacT

  167. digger50 says:

    Ribs: I was hinting that Russell would score on himself in overtime in response to digger just before Russell deflects a puck away from the goal line… in overtime.

    Yup, you called it …almost.

    No matter

    I thought the Oil toyed with them for half the game, but were not going to back off more than that. So we get a last win and let the Loto balls bounce as they may.

  168. hunter1909 says:

    Gerta Rauss: Suspicious fire at the Hunter compound HQ..?

    Standings Update posted a few moments ago.

    When can I buy myself that drink? I’ve still got your donation : )

  169. Ribs says:

    Professor Q: Oates for breakfast for you, it seems.

    That’s it! Next year it’s 77points into the pool! Hah, damn.

    John Shannon

    Verified account

    @JSportsnet
    6m6 minutes ago
    More
    West is set:
    Vegas vs Los Angeles
    Anaheim vs San Jose
    Nashville vs Colorado
    Winnipeg vs Minnesota

  170. Professor Q says:

    Ribs,

    I’ll go:

    Vegas
    San Jose
    Nashville
    Winnipeg

  171. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): This, too. My point was that if you are expecting Strome to blossom a la Karlsson, don’t hold your breath.

    I’m not saying Strome will ever put up big points, but I like him as a 3C. And the league is littered with guys who didn’t put it together until they were older. Josh Bailey has done very little in his career until this year when he scored 71 pts. And he’s 28.

  172. hunter1909 says:

    AshetonisGod:
    Gret99zky,

    As long as it’s not followed by new HC Paul Coffey and new GM MacT

    I’m sorry to be the one who breaks this to you, but MacT cannot be a “new” GM, unless there is a parallel universe where the SC 2006 game 1 final is about to start.

    No need to thank me. Always glad to help.

  173. Gerta Rauss says:

    hunter1909: When can I buy myself that drink? I’ve still got your donation : )

    The sooner the better my friend

    You and your crack team have worked tirelessly this whole season, you’ve earned it

  174. hunter1909 says:

    Season over! Now I can jump on the New Jersey bandwagon and prepare to cry.

  175. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: I’m not saying Strome will ever put up big points, but I like him as a 3C. And the league is littered with guys who didn’t put it together until they were older. Josh Bailey has done very little in his career until this year when he scored 71 pts. And he’s 28.

    Back to this subject, my comment was not a criticism of Strome. I don’t mind him in our bottom 6 for the right dollars. If he blossoms, great, but don’t hope too much for it.

    Bailey also was running with peak Tavares.

  176. Ribs says:

    Professor Q:
    Ribs,

    I’ll go:

    Vegas
    San Jose
    Nashville
    Winnipeg

    Damn, this is tough… I think I’d go… LA, Ahaheim, Nashville, Winnipeg.

    JimmyV1965: I’m not saying Strome will ever put up big points, but I like him as a 3C. And the league is littered with guys who didn’t put it together until they were older. Josh Bailey has done very little in his career until this year when he scored 71 pts. And he’s 28.

    Strome as a sleeper cell. I like it.

  177. OmJo says:

    hunter1909:
    Season over! Now I can jump on the New Jersey bandwagon and prepare to cry.

    Yup!

    I’ve waited a freaking decade to see Taylor Hall in a playoff game and the Devil’s in the f’ng details!

  178. hunter1909 says:

    Hunter1909’s 2017-18 Emergency DeathMarch™ Update!

    Add this new player To the pantheon of winners.

    Jari

    Congratulations Jari!

  179. Professor Q says:

    OmJo: Yup!

    I’ve waited a freaking decade to see Taylor Hall in a playoff game and the Devil’s in the f’ng details!

    And like in Windsor, he really does well in red.

    Sigh.

  180. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    rickithebear:
    To the guy questioning the price for RFA years.

    Look at the 5 year rfa contracts.
    The goal and Ppg rates.
    6 Million for 5 years.
    Then look at the years beyond bought.
    You get a rate increase per season add for PPG players in .07 PPG intervals.
    Draisatl,s group is 750k per season.
    6M + ( .75 + .75 + .75 ) = 8.25M

    Prose and Personal Narritive makes people like you.

    But truth based on facts does not make friends.

    Be a little less Stu

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVA-Bx4rNc0

    A little more Dennis

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

    Data, analysis, facts are OK.

    Ricki,

    Your writing is sometimes hard to follow, as is your train of thought. I know you think I am as dumb as a doorknob and like to insult my intelligence because I don’t always see things the way you do. I have never insulted you back. You may be smarter than me, but I would rather be stupid and respectful of others than be smart and full of myself.

    I know you and your family have gone through a lot and so I always will have a lot of rope for you.

    Now on the subject of the RFA years, you came up with a formula to add 750k per increment of .07 ppg, which is an interesting number that I don’t know where you pulled from, but let’s just go with it for now. That adds value for the UFA years only or RFA years? Because if you have 6m per for the 5 RFA years, what is left is 12.67m for each of the 3 UFA years. Too much.

    Let’s give Draisaitl the Kane/Toews/Kopitar value for his UFA years: 10.5m per x 3. That means his RFA years are worth 7.3m. Remember he was arb eligible in those early years, too.

    Hall, Tavares, Tarasenko, Barkov, Scheifele, Seguin, Pastrnak.

    Tarasenko, Barkov, Pastrnak most recent comparable deals. All had one less RFA year left than Drai.

    6m avg for 5 RFA years and 10.5m avg for 3 UFA years. Seems in line with your comparables listed for Drai: Kane, Toews, Kopitar etc.

    7.7m per.

    By the way your math adds up to 8.25m. Drai makes 8.5m .

    Is the 0.8m per a back breaker? No. But did he get a rich contract that pays him above precedent? Yes.

  181. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    rickithebear,

    Ricki, one more thing. I will stick to prose and personal narrative. I used math for work once upon a time but I got sick of that line of work. My life is much happier now. I choose not to sit and run spreadsheets on hockey as it is not my life’s passion, but I am grateful for people like you, Woodguy, G Money and others who do and share that with us.

    So keep on being the facts guy. You say it doesn’t make friends but I like you plenty, even though I may be a knuckledragger.

  182. Jaxon says:

    West:
    Vegas
    Anaheim
    Nashville
    Winnipeg

  183. JimmyV1965 says:

    OmJo: Matthews and Eichel have higher Pts/Gp. And Tarasenko has 0 TOI with McDavid this season an has 3 less points (in 3 extra games).

    If Draisaitl had top 6 wingers that would probably be different. But not the best comparisons.

    How has Pastrnak done this season?

    Pastrnak is not a fair comparison either. It might be the best line in the league. You can’t tell me he’s not being zoomed by Bergeron and Marchand. Bet he has a few more PP pts as well.

  184. NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker) says:

    JimmyV1965: Pastrnak is not a fair comparison either. It might be the best line in the league. You can’t tell me he’s not being zoomed by Bergeron andMarchand. Bet he has a few more PP pts as well.

    I think Drai beats Pastrnak in every area except goal scoring. Pastrnak makes less than 7m per, and I think Drai deserves more than him. In the summer before the deal was done I thought 7.75m was fair–more than Tarasenko.

  185. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): Back to this subject, my comment was not a criticism of Strome. I don’t mind him in our bottom 6 for the right dollars. If he blossoms, great, but don’t hope too much for it.

    Bailey also was running with peak Tavares.

    My apologies. You’re right. I’ll be very happy with 15 goals and 40 pts

  186. JimmyV1965 says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker): I think Drai beats Pastrnak in every area except goal scoring. Pastrnak makes less than 7m per, and I think Drai deserves more than him. In the summer before the deal was done I thought 7.75m was fair–more than Tarasenko.

    Absolutely. Agree he’s overpaid maybe $1 mill. But it’s the least of chias overpays.

  187. Pescador says:

    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    For me there are several different ways to measure intellect.
    Book smarts
    Common sense or street smarts
    Social intelligence or identify-ability
    Comedic
    Numerical
    Technological
    I place different weight on each. And some people are lucky enough or as a result of their own hard work to possess multiple forms.
    Kudos to you for fact based arguments posted in an easily discernible text.
    All whilst walking the high road,
    Respect

  188. slopitch says:

    Can’t complain about a win ever really. Still 15% for a top 3 pick and 8-10 range involves some luck.

    I was cheering like hell for JP last night playing with Drai. He never got going and must have had like 8 giveaways. Too bad.

    McDavid is a different level. What a treat.

    This seasons record combined with the quality 97 put out should mean Chai and TMac are gone. We wait.

  189. Jaxon says:

    Pescador:
    NYC-Back-to-Tokyo Oil (Gentleman Backpacker),

    For me there are several different ways to measure intellect.
    Book smarts
    Common sense or street smarts
    Social intelligence or identify-ability
    Comedic
    Numerical
    Technological
    I place different weight on each. And some people are lucky enough or as a result of their own hard work to possess multiple forms.
    Kudos to you for fact based arguments posted in an easily discernible text.
    All whilst walking the high road,
    Respect

    I would put one more on that list: creativity. And it would go near or at the top for me.

  190. russ99 says:

    LT, thanks again for giving us a soapbox to vent about the Oilers.

    Hopefully next season is much much better.

  191. deardylan says:

    Jaxon,

    I would add Optimism and Enthusiasm and EQ as a combo winner for the IQ I enjoy working with and playing with. 🙂

  192. deardylan says:

    Jaxon: I would add Optimism and Enthusiasm and EQ as a combo winner for the IQ I enjoy working with and playing with.

    I would add Optimism and Enthusiasm and EQ as a combo winner for the IQ I enjoy working with and playing with. 🙂

  193. deardylan says:

    Pescador:
    Numerical
    Technological
    I place different weight on each. And some people are lucky enough or as a result of their own h

    Most people in this forum are a sweet mix of EQ and IQ.

    That 100 percentile EQ dude: This dude narrative of the truth is rarely pure and never simple. He wins the relationships and loses the plot.

    That 100 percentile IQ data analyst: This dude who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. He wins the battle and loses friends.

    The only difference between the IQ data analysts and the EQ storytellers is that every data analyst has a past and every storyteller has a future.

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