The 120 best players in the 2018 draft

We are about one month away from my final list and in truth there is unlikely to be much change between the rankings I’m posting today and what you’ll see June 1. This is a draft with six or seven outstanding forwards and six impressive defensemen at the top. After that, the quality is high through the second round and an NHL team should be able to find something for every need. One exception: The goalies have not announced their presence yet so there’s some vagueries around that list.

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ODDS AND SODS

I use NHLE as a strong guiding light. I also use scouting reports from trusted sources and publications. I punish average to poor foot speed liberally. My list list rewards offense heavily, and the most gifted offensive players will be at the top. Players with a range of skills usually do well, but there is a fine line between a two-way player and a checking future (Allan McShane, Linus Nyman would have been higher on this list a few years ago). The list does not give high numbers to players who have a lot of their value tied up in the defensive side of the game. Goalies are graded (almost exclusively) by save percentage, although success over more than one season has terrific value.

I view Bob McKenzie’s list as the draft Bible. Corey Pronman’s views have a major impact on my list. He’s been finding value in the draft for years and his list is unique. Despite my admiration for his work, our lists are not similar. Makes sense, since he’s scouting and evaluating these players, I’m using math and what gets sent my way. Corey’s mid-season list is here. Scott Wheeler is a unique voice, his mid-season list is here. Craig Button’s list has high value for me, I like the fact he has the courage of his convictions. I pay attention to Red Line Report. Their scouting reports are the industry standard.

Simon Boisvert is a wonderful resource. He’s on the Lowdown often and he’s a very wise man. I also view McKeen’s, Steve Kournianos, Grant McCagg, Tom Hunter, The Black Book, Brock Otten, Adam Sherren, ISS. I do have conversations with scouts in junior hockey and they are very helpful.

Mark Edwards Black Book is a brilliant reference. His release last year has been very useful for this year’s draft. Highly recommended. If there’s one publication I would recommend, it would be Edwards.

It is very rare for me to rank a defenseman No. 1 overall. Last time? Victor Hedman, 2009. Things have changed this year. This list uses math, previous draft trends (the CHL delivers enormous talent to the NHL), various pieces of anecdotal information volunteered by scouts and observers along the way, and an educated guess based on watching these things unfold since 1971.

There was more than the usual shuffling this month, a lot of the spiking players came on strong in the season’s second half. Hope you enjoy it!

THE 120 BEST PLAYERS IN THE 2018 DRAFT

  1. (1) LD Rasmus Dahlin, Frolunda (SHL). Impact player. His NHLE (23.84) is shy of at least one name you’ll see later but the entire package for Dahlin flattens the competition. Already playing in the SHL and thriving, he will be a plug and play for the Buffalo Sabres.
  2. (2) R Andrei Svechnikov, Barrie Colts (OHL). Major talent. 40 goals in 44 games in the world’s best junior league, he plays a complete game and from what I am told the Russian factor is no factor at all in regard to Svechnikov. He would be brilliant alongside 97 or 29. Had a 43.3 NHLE and averaged 3.95 shots per game in the OHL.
  3. (3) L Filip Zadina, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Size, shooter, speed, skill. I like him (NHLE 33.5, 4.1 shots per game in the QMJHL) because he’s a shoot first option and if he falls at all, Edmonton should be tempted to trade up (they don’t have the horses).
  4. (5) RC Oliver Wahlstrom, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Sensational talent, emerging. I moved him up because the resume is strong and his release is exceptional. He might end up being the best goal scorer in the draft. Edmonton has to find a way to get 97’s shooter on the roster and if Wahlstrom is still hanging on at No. 7, trading up would be wise.
  5. (4) LD Ty Smith, Spokane Chiefs (WHL)Nice range of skills and impressive offense. I wrote about him at The Athletic and his comparables shine like a diamond. He is unlikely to go inside the top 10 overall, meaning Smith will represent (in my opinion) exceptional value when chosen. Corey Pronman: His best trait is his hockey IQ, as his instincts and decision-making with the puck are very good. Smith is small, but he’s solid defensively due to his feet and IQ. (Source)
  6. (7) LD Quinn Hughes, Michigan (NCAA)Fast as lightning defender, smooth as silk. Breathtaking player whose ceiling might be the highest among the defensemen in this year’s draft. I think he might be No. 3 on Edmonton’s list of blue (Dahlin, Bouchard, Hughes) and I don’t think any of them will be on the board when the Oilers pick.
  7. (6) RD Adam Boqvist, Brynas (SuperElite). Brilliant puck mover, chaos defense. With the puck on his stick, Boqvist is exceptional, highly creative and a nightmare for opponents. He should emerge as a top flight power-play defenseman and effective in moving the puck once he’s gained possession. I nicked him due to defensive issues, not just size but ability to impact the play (slowing progress, recognition). If he is concussed from the U18’s that may hurt his draft number.
  8. (10) L Brady Tkachuk, Boston University (NCAA)Rugged power winger with two-way skills. I like him a lot and believe the Oilers love him (based on Chiarelli’s own past). I have him here because the numbers suggest he’s going to be  a little shy of his brother offensively.
  9. (11) RD Evan Bouchard, London Knights (OHL). Big numbers, intelligent two-way D. He is a good skater and has a big shot, plus Bouchard can find seams and passing lines and hit them on the fly consistently. A very valuable prospect, Bob McKenzie’s latest has him inside the top 5 overall.
  10. (13) L Joel Farabee, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL)Speedy winger with legit skill, watching him at the U18’s he seems to be able to change gears and directions quickly. Appears to be a chance machine based on limited viewing, he’s been a force offensively at all levels that have been presented to him.
  11. (8) LC Jacob Olofsson, Timra (Allsvenskan). Two-way center with skill, he’s an emerging player.
  12. (14) RD Noah Dobson, Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL). Two-way defenseman.
  13. (9) LC Joe Veleno, Saint-John Sea Dogs (QMJHL)Good size and speed, creative center.
  14. (19) LC Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Assat (Sm-Liiga). Smart, very skilled and he’s 6.02, 190. Value spiking.
  15. (18) LC Barrett Hayton, SSM Greyhounds (OHL). Shooter owns a heavy shot and uses it liberally.
  16. (12) LC Filip Hallander, Timra (Allsvenskan). Big, fast forward is an excellent puck transporter.
  17. (17) RD Ryan Merkley, Guelph Storm (OHL)Ridiculous offensive package.
  18. (15) RC Akil Thomas, Niagara Ice Dogs (OHL). Undersized center with all of the tools.
  19. (22) LC Ryan McLeod, Mississauga Steelheads (OHL). Late ’99 has size, speed and skill.
  20. (16) RD Calen Addison, Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL). Creative player, very fast.
  21. (21) R Dominik Bokk, Vajxo Lakers (SuperElite). Elusive skater and a fine stickhandler.
  22. (25) RD Bode Wilde, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL)Has size, skill, skating ability plus can shoot the puck.
  23. (27) RC Rasmus Kupari, Karpat (Sm-Liiga). Skilled center, offense is the big selling point.
  24. (23) RC Cam Hillis, Guelph Storm (OHL). He’s a burner and he’s spiking.
  25. (26) LD K’Andre Miller, U.S. N. D. P. (USHL). Big defender who can skate and has a big shot.
  26. (31) L Grigori Denisenko, Yaroslavl (MHL). Shoots right, high-end skill and he’s a puck wizard.
  27. (36) LC Allan McShane, Oshawa Generals (OHL). A wide range of skills.
  28. (29) LC Linus Nyman, Kingston Frontenacs (OHL). Strong two-way C with impressive offense.
  29. (37) R Vitali Kravtsov, Traktor (KHL). Terrific skill obscured by playing in big league.
  30. (24) RD Jett Woo, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL). A fine two-way prospect and a rare righty.
  31. (30) R Serron Noel, Oshawa Generals (OHL)Big power forward with improving speed.
  32. (20) W Samuel Fagemo, Frolunda (SuperElite). Good boots and an excellent shot.
  33. (34) LD Alex Alexeyev, Red Deer Rebels (WHL)Big man, calm feet, has skill.
  34. (28) L Isac Lundestrom, Lulea (SHL)He is a burner, probably a little shy offensively.
  35. (32) LC Phillipp Kurashev, Quebec Remparts (QMJHL). Intelligent two-way center.
  36. (45) LD Rasmus Sandin, SSM Greyhounds (OHL). Smart, undersized skill defenseman.
  37. (35) LD Jared McIssac, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Powerful skater, emerging offense.
  38. (49) RC Ty Dellandrea, Flint Firebirds (OHL). Skill center plays a rugged style.
  39. (46) G Jakub Skarek, Jihlava (Czech). Huge goalie, quality resume.
  40. (43) LC Nathan Dunkley, London Knights (OHL). Impressive young player with offensive ability.
  41. (39) R Jesse Ylonen, Espoo United (Mestis). Tall, thin skill winger who is both shooter and playmaker.
  42. (54) LC Alexander Khovanov, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL)Unreal skill.
  43. (41) LC Benoit-Olivier Groulx, Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL). Two-way center with some skill.
  44. (79) R Jonatan Berggren, Skelleftea (SuperElite). Fearless two-way W, Kournianos likes him.
  45. (55) L Jake Wise, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). A burner with emerging offense.
  46. (59) RD Sean Durzi, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). Puck mover, talented and trending.
  47. (61) L Cole Fonstadt, Prince Albert Raiders (WHL)Good hands, skilled.
  48. (52) L Martin Kaut, Pardubice (Czech). Big, strong, excellent skater. Offense unclear.
  49. (53) LD Filip Kral, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Smart puck moving defender.
  50. (38) LC Jack McBain, Toronto Jr. Canadians (OJHL). Two-way C with size and skill.
  51. (42) L Jakob Lauko, Chomutov (Czech). Skilled winger with good speed. Offense a mystery.
  52. (33) LC Milos Roman, Vancouver Giants (WHL). A smart player in all areas of the ice.
  53. (48) L Albin Eriksson, Skelleftea (SHL). Big winger, plus speed, promising offense.
  54. (50) LD Jonathan Tychonick, Penticton Vees (BCJHL). Puck mover, creative, chaos.
  55. (89) L Alex Steeves, Dubuque (USHL). Smaller winger, speedy, physical.
  56. (44) G Oliver Rodrigue, Drummondville (QMJHL). Best NA goalie by consensus.
  57. (69) R Aidan Dudas, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). Small, very skilled forward.
  58. (58) RC Kyle Topping, Kelowna Rockets (WHL). Impressive even-strength offense.
  59. (65) LC Liam Foudy, London Knights (OHL). Skill center.
  60. (64) LC Matej Pekar, Muskegon Lumberjacks (USHL). Playmaking Czech in USHL.
  61. (66) LC Blake McLaughlin, Chicago Steel (USHL). Undersized skill player.
  62. (71) L Gabriel Fortier, Baie Comeau (QMJHL)Speedy winger with skill.
  63. (81) RD Axel Andersson, Djurgardens (SuperElite). Speedy blue with skill.
  64. (77) RC Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Peterborough Petes (OHL). Playmaking center, not a lot of buzz.
  65. (82) LC Jack Drury, Waterloo Blackhawks (USHL). Chris’ boy, smart and skilled. (USAToday).
  66. (62) R Riley Sutter, Everett Silvertips (WHL). A gritty winger with skill. Sutter.
  67. (60) R Kody Clark, Ottawa 67’s (OHL). Rambunctious PF with some skill.
  68. (68) R Vladislav Kotkov, Chicoutimi Sagueneens (QMJHL). Big, mobile offensive winger.
  69. (NR) LC David Gustafsson, HV71 (SHL). Two-way C with emerging offense.
  70. (40) G Lukas Dostal, Brno (Czech). Fabulous numbers over the last two seasons.
  71. (63) L Anderson MacDonald, Moncton Wildcats (QMJHL). Big W is talented scorer.
  72. (67) RC Ryan O’Reilly, Madison Capitals (USHL). Power forward with skill.
  73. (47) L Cedric Desruisseaux, Drummondville (QMJHL). Small, skilled.
  74. (84) L Justin Almeida, Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL). Good speed, two way ability, spiked offensively.
  75. (57) L Sampo Ranta, Sioux City Musketeers (USHL). Skill winger with speed and a plus shot.
  76. (83) L Johnny Gruden, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Good speed, two way acumen.
  77. (51) L Jack Randl, Omaha Lancers (USHL). Impressive scorer. Zero buzz.
  78. (70) LD Mattias Samuelsson, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Shutdown skills, some offense.
  79. (72) LD Nicolas Beaudin, Drummondville (QMJHL). Impressive puck mover, speed a concern.
  80. (NR) RD Mac Hollowell, SSM (OHL). Undersized puck mover can skate.
  81. (80) R Pavel Gogolev, Peterborough (OHL). 30 goals in world’s best junior league.
  82. (91) R Arttu Nevasaari, Karpat (Jr. Sm-Liiga). Top-end skill.
  83. (NR) RC Ivan Morozov, Mamonty Yugry (MHL). Solid two-way C, offense improving.
  84. (56) RD Nils Lundkvist, Lulea (SHL). Speed and can pass plus transport the puck.
  85. (73) RC Jay O’Brien, U.S.N.D.T.P. (USHL). Still finding out about him.
  86. (86) LD Justin Bergeron, Rouyn-Noranda (QMJHL). M-A Bergeron 2.0.
  87. (74) R Yegor Sokolov, Cape Breton (QMJHL). Skilled power forward with good numbers.
  88. (75) LC Lukas Wernblom, MODO (SuperElite). Small, skilled, needs better results.
  89. (78) R Dmitri Zavgorodny, Rimouski Oceanic (QMJHL). Small, effective goal scorer.
  90. (90) LD Adam McCormick, Cape Breton (QMJHL). Smart D, excellent skater.
  91. (NR) L Kirill Marchenko, Mamonty Yugry (MHL). Scoring at will at U18’s.
  92. (87) C-R Blade Jenkins, Saginaw Spirit (OHL). Scorer with size, better on the wing.
  93. (NR) R Niklas Nordgren, HIFK (Sm-Liiga). Undersized, skilled, ripping up U18’s.
  94. (85) L Jan Jenik, Benatky (Cze-2). Solid two-way prospect, size, skill.
  95. (88) LD Danila Galenyuk, St. Petersburg (KHL). Strong two-way D, good skater.
  96. (NR) LC Jason Willms, Barrie Colts (OHL). Two-way C, 1999.
  97. (93) RD Alec Regula, London Knights (OHL). Big two-way D with good mobility.
  98. (94) LD Marc Del Gaizo, Muskegon (USHL). Impressive skill defender.
  99. (NR) L Karel Plasek, Brno (Czech). Skill winger with a plus shot.
  100. (96) LC Matthew Struthers, North Bay Battalion (OHL). Big two-way C.
  101. (NR) LC Riley Stotts, Calgary Hitmen (WHL). Found his offense with the Hitmen.
  102. (92) R Trey Fix-Wolansky, Edmonton Oil Kings (WHL). Small, talented, improved.
  103. (97) L Gavin Hain, U.S.N.D.P (USHL). Intelligent player, terrific skater.
  104. (NR) RD Jacob Bernard-Docker, Okotoks Oilers (AJHL). Great tools, unsure of offense.
  105. (98) L Ryan Chykowski, Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL). Throwback W, good shot.
  106. (99) L Paul Cotter, Lincoln Stars (USHL). Impressive athlete plus skills.
  107. (NR) RC Chase Wouters, Saskatoon Blades (WHL). Nice range of skills.
  108. (100) LC Curtis Douglas, Windsor Spitfires (OHL). Giant center with skill.
  109. (76) LD Adam Ginning, Linkoping (SHL). Big D, good speed, shutdown type.
  110. (95) LD Toni Utunen, Tappara (Sm-Liiga). Impressive skater, all around skills.
  111. (NR) RD Ty Emberson, U.S.N.D.P (USHL). Intelligent two-way player.
  112. (NR) G Olof Lindbom, Djurgardens (SuperElite). Good size, rebound control, strong U18’s.
  113. (NR) L Elijah Brown, Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL). Small, skilled, emerging.
  114. (NR) L Calen Kiefiuk, CI Flying Aces (USHL). Small, skilled. Draft and follow.
  115. (NR) R Kirill Nizhnikov, Sudbury Wolves (OHL). Volume shooter, could spike.
  116. (NR) RC Oscar Back, Farjestad (SHL). Strong start to U18 has him on the radar.
  117. (NR) L Michal Kvasnica, Ocelari Trinec (Czech). Smart two-way winger.
  118. (NR) LC Kristian Tanus, Tappara (Jr Sm-Liiga). Quick, skilled, small.
  119. (NR) L Oliver Okuliar, Dukla Trencin (Slovakia U20). Skilled, big U18’s.
  120. (NR) LD Kevin Bahl, Ottawa 67’s (OHL). Huge shutdown D, good skater.

OILERS MOCK (before the lottery)

  • First Round—No. 10 overall—LC Jesperi Kotkaniemi, Assat (Sm-Liiga). Kotkaniemi appears to be the top late riser from Europe, based on Bob McKenzie’s latest list and Craig Button’s weekend mock. I see him as having a 2C outer marker and might be tempted to either trade up, out, or down. I also think there’s a chance one of the defensemen everyone loves remains available at No. 10. At that point, my bet is Edmonton takes a forward anyway. One thing that could tempt Edmonton: Kotkaniemi is fast and skilled enough to play with very good players and I’ve read he is good in puck protection (for his age). He might be a future winger for one of McDavid or Draisaitl. The fact he is a natural center is a bonus (as in the case of Nuge playing on McDavid’s line before season’s end).
  • Second Round—No. 40 overall—RD Sean Durzi, Owen Sound Attack (OHL). A draft re-entry (yes, I am fond of them) who is No. 45 on the Craig Button list, don’t think it’s a stretch to put him here. He’s an October 1998 so could turn pro with the Condors this fall. Brock Otten: His acceleration is much more crisp this year and he’s really made himself a better skater overall. When you combine that with improved puck skill and confidence leading the rush, you’ve got a guy who can generate offense at a high rate. Smart, positional defender too who generally makes good reads. Source
  • Third Round—No. 71 overall— RD Nils Lundkvist, Lulea (SHL). Courtesy Swedish Poster: Small for a D, he’s listed as 5’11, but looks shorter to me, could be an illusion because he’s pretty stocky. Strong for his size. I’ve seen him outmuscle far bigger guys. Has been rushing up a lot of draft lists over the course of the season. Surprised a lot of people when he played himself onto the men’s team and worked his way into an SHL regular. Last year he wasn’t even a mainstay on the U20 team, instead he spent the majority of the season with the U18 team but as he got phyiscally stronger he first moved up to the U20 and then took on the SHL. Lovely skater, moves the puck real well, not a dangler in any sense, his hands are a little choppy when he skates at top speed but when slowing down he’s got good puck control. Hasn’t shown a tonne of offensive flair in the SHL games I’ve seen and not really in juniors either, though his quick move up the ranks might mean there’s more offense than at first glance. Good defensive awareness and reads, nice stick and as mentioned surprisingly strong in puck battles. He’s been a hell of a story this year and I’ve seen him mentioned as a first rounder. I’d be somewhat concerned about what kind of NHLer he’d become to pick him that high, I can’t get a real grasp on his upside, he reminds me of the Swedish Sebastian Aho and when I squint and I’m in a good mood I see a poor mans Roman Josi but some days I just see a guy who’ll look great in europé but struggle at the NHL level. I’d gladly grab him mid second round. I think. A lot to like.
  • Fourth Round—No. 102 overall (Oilers acquired goaltender Al Montoya from the Montreal Canadiens in exchange for a conditional fourth-round pick in 2018. Montoya covered the condition).
  • Fifth Round—No. 133 overall R Pavel Gogolev, Peterborough (OHL). I have him No. 81 so this might be a stretch, but I wanted to mention him at some point. Scored 30 goals in a great league, his scouting reports talk about a great shot, passing acumen and ability to become the open man for a pass. Not a lot on him yet but we may see it before draft day.
  • Sixth Round—No. 164 overallRC Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Peterborough Petes (OHL). He is a terrific playmaking center and posted strong numbers for Peterborough. Small, good speed, brilliant passer. Edmonton needs skill, this guy has it and no one is talking about him (I think dobber has something on him). Young for this draft season.
  • Seventh Round—No. 195 overallC Riley Damiani, Kitchener Rangers (OHL). Undersized two-way forward who uses his speed to both opponents on the forecheck and back check. Has breakaway speed but doesn’t cash enough of them to be considered an impact scorer. He could be excellent value here.

The final edition of this list will be titled “Here Comes the Sun” and published June 1. Thanks for reading!

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128 Responses to "The 120 best players in the 2018 draft"

  1. 36 percent body fat says:

    hallander will likely go in the mid second, Oilers please draft this guy, good size, skating and offense, and he is young for the draft class

  2. Confused says:

    SP breaking the news Lindholm to the leafs.

  3. MattyIce says:

    I like the fin from what I saw. I just hope it’s not a Paajarvi repeat if they choose him. I think if Dobson drops to 10 you sprint

  4. Confused says:

    PC on Wilkins on Friday,link at the journal.

  5. Confused says:

    Watched the U-18 will have a huge impact on the draft.

    For example, Finland 7-0,perfect, gold…..watch them fly!

  6. pts2pndr says:

    If by chance Boqvist drpos to 10 the Oilers should run up and call his name. By what I have observed it would appear he has had a slight growth spurt and approaching 6.0 ft. With an offensively gifted right shot d man This should make the power play lethal! Proviso; coaching still a question mark in my mind!

  7. 36 percent body fat says:

    Dahlin

    Svechnikov

    Whalstrom

    Boqvist

    Bouchard

    Zdina

    Tkachuk

    Dobson

    Hughes

  8. Scungilli Slushy says:

    pts2pndr:
    If by chance Boqvist drpos to 10 the Oilers should run up and call his name. By what I have observed it would appear he has had a slight growth spurt and approaching 6.0 ft. With an offensively gifted right shot d man This should make the power play lethal! Proviso; coaching still a question mark in my mind!

    For sure. They will have to wait for him, he needs time. I’m not sure they are in draft and develop mode right now, unless PC knows he’s got more rope than a season.

  9. frjohnk says:

    Thanks for the list LT.

    Now here is why I think you are wrong……

    just kidding. As always, love your work on the draft.

  10. Rafa Nadal says:

    Can someone explain to me how Ty Smith is different than Kris Russell in junior? Undersized, high offense (Russell was like this in junior too, obviously didn’t translate at the NHL level) and questionable defensive ability.

  11. Cassandra says:

    LT’s article on Woodcroft and the Condors at the athletic is so painful.

    This is why we can’t have nice things.

  12. dustrock says:

    Rafa Nadal:
    Can someone explain to me how Ty Smith is different than Kris Russell in junior? Undersized, high offense (Russell was like this in junior too, obviously didn’t translate at the NHL level) and questionable defensive ability.

    He’s one of the best skaters in the draft, had I believe the best transition/zone entries stats for the CHL d-men, ahead of Dobson and Bouchard, and bettered d-men like Provorov from the WHL in his draft year.

    He’s very smart and he’s great in transition.

    I didn’t watch Russell in junior but I don’t see his game as similar at all.

    If his scoring was more like Nurse’s maybe it would be a fair comparison.

  13. dustrock says:

    Fantastic list as usual LT.

    I suspect Denisenko, Kravtsov and Kaut will likely go higher.

    Kotkaniemi – are we looking at recency bias again? What happened the last time we saw a Finnish teen destroy a tournament of his peers? Puljujarvi was undoubtedly boosted by his dominant WJHC performance and he has flattered to deceive with his career to date.

    Do we really want to use a guy who grades out as a 2C as a celing?

    I just don’t know about the Oilers and European players anymore.

  14. Marc says:

    LT

    He’s probably not in the top 120, but keep an eye on Liam Kirk. He’s probably the best British player since Tony Hand. He played against men in the top British pro league this year as a 17 year old (roughly ECHL/lesser NCAA quality) and scored 9 goals and 7 assists in 52 games. He led the GB U-18 and U-20 teams to gold and promotion to a higher tier, and also played on the full GB national team that just won promotion to the top tier of hockey for the first time since 1994.

    He didn’t play much in the tournament (he averaged around 6 minutes a game), but when he did play he was one of the fastest players on the ice and he got shots (3 shots in 5:54 playing time against Poland, 2 shots in 6:24 playing time in the final against Hungary). He was also one of the shooters in the shootout agaisnt Hungary.

  15. Cahoon says:

    I want Button to be right and we draft Boqvist. I want that to happen so bad!

  16. Lowetide says:

    Rafa Nadal:
    Can someone explain to me how Ty Smith is different than Kris Russell in junior? Undersized, high offense (Russell was like this in junior too, obviously didn’t translate at the NHL level) and questionable defensive ability.

    His coverage has been described in several quarters as Pronman does above.

  17. jtblack says:

    Who have the Oilers drafted and developed, later than pick #50 in the last 8 years?

    J.J. KHAIRA
    ETHAN BEAR
    ?
    ?

  18. jtblack says:

    Lowetide: His coverage has been described in several quarters as Pronman does above.

    What if Ty Smith is more Ryan Ellis than Kris Russell? once you label a prospect you have made up your mind.
    Reality is he could be Duncan Keith Nobody knows.

    EDIT: Meant for Rafa Nadel

  19. trencan says:

    Marc,

    The tournament was thriller. Good luck next year.

  20. godot10 says:

    Whoever the Oilers pick, and they should make the pick, they should just “forget” about him for three years, and let them develop. This is an affordable player for the start of the 2nd half of McDavid’s Oilers’ career.

    They should not use it for immediate help, unless someone agrees to take Lucic with it.

    Picking ten is too late for me to have a strong opinion on who to pick. I don’t watch enough junior or international hockey anymore.

  21. Rondo says:

    Toronto Maple Leafs gets 105 pts in this season and relieves their GM. Oilers

  22. godot10 says:

    Rondo:
    Toronto gets 105 pts and relieves their GM. Oilers

    Either that or lose Dubas. Lamorello was there for training purposes anyway. Now he moves to the Scotty Bowman role.

    I don’t subscribe to The Athletic, so I don’t know what Lowetide said about Woodcroft walking the streets of Bakersfield, but it was a bad decision on Woodcroft’s part. It would be better for his career to get a job in another organization, and not be so joined at the hip to McLellan and to the Oilers. McLellan should have told him to leave home. Get out of his basement.

    Huddy did the smart thing.

  23. Oilman99 says:

    We can only hope the scouting has got it right, and they get it right ,otherwise this team has no hope over getting to the top ant time soon.

  24. Side says:

    godot10: but it was a bad decision on Woodcroft’s part.It would be better for his career to get a job in another organization, and not be so joined at the hip to McLellan and to the Oilers. McLellan should have told him to leave home.Get out of his basement.

    Do you know either Woodcroft or Todd personally? It’s so bizarre how you seem to be so confident you know what moves are best best professionally and personally for people you do not know.

  25. dustrock says:

    Regarding Ty Smith, I will try to link to the tweets but I am hopeless with technology.

    ND Red Eagle
    ‏ @NDRedEagle
    Apr 11

    Back to Ty Smith. Best even-strength pts/gm among pre-draft WHL defensemen past 16 years. 2nd: Seth Jones. But 18 of Jones’s 23 EV assists are marked down as secondary. So for primary EV pts/game it is:

    0.42 Ty Smith (29 in 69)
    0.25 Seth Jones (15 in 61)

    https://twitter.com/NDRedEagle/status/984206893559066624

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    Ty Smith vs. Calen Addison based on percentile rank within a group of 118 CHL defenders (5v5 only).

    Smith’s a bit more shooting oriented, Addison playmaking. Smith’s more aggressive entering the OZ, while Addison chooses controlled plays more often.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989628115067514880

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    The average for defencemen: Ty Smith (2018), Kale Clague (LAK) in the top grouping, followed closely by Timmins (COL), Dobson (2018), Merkley (2018), Sandin (2018), Fleury (MTL), Addison (2018).

    Bouchard, Beaudin, Keane, Kral (2018 eligibles) are in the next tier.
    9:25 AM – 24 Apr 2018

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/988816287769026561

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    NZ defence is particularly noteworthy here, as Smith is one of the best in all three measures, whereas Addison is only in one. Addison forces dump ins (Ctrl Entry Against %) well, but when players challenge him 1v1, he’s been unable to stop them in this sample.
    3:14 PM – 26 Apr 2018

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989628808759214080

    RE HUGHES

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown
    Apr 26

    I have data on him, but my NCAA data set isn’t large enough (only 3 teams), so comparisons like the above one aren’t possible.

    But, here are some snippets: He produces scoring chances at a better rate than many of the top-6 Fs, and he’s the best D at exits/entries by far.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989632315440627713

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown
    Apr 17

    Ryan Merkley’s playmaking is on another level compared to other CHL defenceman prospects. He creates double the scoring chance assists than other top CHL blue line #2018NHLDraft prospects like Bouchard, Addison, Smith, and Beaudin.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/986255581689327618

  26. ArmchairGM says:

    “5. (4) LD Ty Smith, Spokane Chiefs (WHL). Nice range of skills and impressive offense. I wrote about him at The Athletic and his comparables shine like a diamond. He is unlikely to go inside the top 10 overall… ”

    If that’s the case, I would love to see Edmonton grab him at #10 – as long as Boqvist et al are gone at that point. There are some decent NHL wingers available through trade that probably don’t cost too much: Domi, Athanasiou / Nyquist, etc.

  27. godot10 says:

    Side: Do you know either Woodcroft or Todd personally? It’s so bizarre how you seem to be so confident you know what moves are best best professionally and personally for people you do not know.

    I gave the same “advice” to Todd Nelson when McLellan was hired. Get out of Dodge, rather than take an assistant coaching job in Edmonton.

    Pretty much the same “advice” i would give to anyone who has been too long in one place with the same group of people when an “opportunity” arises to go elsewhere.

  28. Truth says:

    If the Oilers trade out of 10th I’d like to see them either drop back to a position where they could grab Merkley or make a secondary trade (involving more picks and a prospect) to move up in the draft to do the same. I’d prefer they draft BPA and do something to move to 20-ish if Merkley is still there. He’s practically Paul Coffey, right?

  29. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    godot10:
    Pretty much the same “advice” i would give to anyone who has been too long in one place with the same group of people when an “opportunity” arises to go elsewhere.

    – that’s good advice, but you are assuming a guy with a family, as an assistant coach, who wasn’t bank as a former hockey player has a lot of options

    – The opportunity to run a AHL team, make an impact would be I suspect one of the better options for an assistant coach on a non-playoff team who was in charge of a very poor PP,

    – He’s apparently a bright buy, good skills, liked by the young players, well respected and has aspirations of becoming a head-coach in the NHL.

    – Interesting with Lou: probably a case of Shanny having to lose possibly both Hunter and Dubas as AGM’s if Lou stayed as GM

    – Contrast this with the oil, where MacT is waiting as AGM: teams are lined up to get him….

    – Also what a gong show in Carolina: can’t find a GM because the guy won’t pay, no coach, owner meddling a lot: Yikes!

    – i wonder where the chatter about our Russian goalie, the hiring of new assistants coaches is coming from: normally Chia runs a right ship in terms of no leaking info.

  30. ArmchairGM says:

    Confused:
    SP breaking the news Lindholm to the leafs.

    For a minute there I thought you were talking about Hampus.

  31. ArmchairGM says:

    Rafa Nadal:
    Can someone explain to me how Ty Smith is different than Kris Russell in junior? Undersized, high offense (Russell was like this in junior too, obviously didn’t translate at the NHL level) and questionable defensive ability.

    Wow, way to start a shitstorm!

  32. digger50 says:

    Off the draft topic but…

    I was just reading about Connor being snubbed by not being included as a Heart nominee.

    Thank God. Connor will be fine with Art Ross and likely Ted Lindsay. But the Heart?

    He is so valuable to his team that he single handedly brought them to 23rd place in the league. Without him they would have been 31st. What a damming statement to the organization. Three years after drafting Connor the Org has put together a team that can only finish bottom of the league without him? Think about that. Ouch.

    Katz should be absolutely livid. Livid.

    I have no idea how they all came round to releasing the assistant coaches and just keep on keepin on.

  33. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    digger50,

    – Not that there needs to be be any ammo but how much more of a laughing stock can Chia be amongst fans if/when Taylor Hall wins the Hart?

  34. monsterbater4 says:

    Since it appears Wahlstrom won’t make it to the oilers I’ve come zeroed in on Farabee as the pick for the oilers. Speed and skill to burn, believe he’s committed to NCAA which will be good for his development before transitioning to the A and then NHL. If one of the D drops to us and the oilers can trade down a few positions and pick up another asset then all the better, but I don’t know if it’s much of a reach at 10 either.

    Just my two cents

  35. hunter1909 says:

    digger50: Katz should be absolutely livid. Livid.
    I have no idea how they all came round to releasing the assistant coaches and just keep on keepin on.

    Here’s the truth:

    Kevin Lowe remains a person of enormous influence and “soft” power. Despite the fact they officially replaced him, his fingerprints can be seen with everything from MacT still being on the company payroll, to Jesse Puljujarvi’s eminent possibly of getting his name added to the long list of 1st round busts since Lowe+MacT hijacked the team way back in 2000.

    I was as astonished as anyone when this news more or less became public knowledge in the wake of the 2017-18 debacle of another season. How Chiarelli/McLellan were still safe, since they provide ample insulation from Katz’s eventual wrath for that future time when he finally blows his stack.

    Then you start wondering about the “dynasty” players none of whom have gone on to achieve anything much post hockey aside from selling potato chips. It’s not like these dudes are anywhere still near their business/management prime in 2018.

    Methinks this franchise is a joke, has always been a joke since the Lowe/MacT era, is run like a circus, and destroys prospects as regularly as clockwork. It’s GM has handcuffed the team with idiotic cap decisions and no trade contracts which hardly make me feel optimistic.

    Show me a winning team and maybe I change my position lol

  36. WayneKenov says:

    Say what you want about Chia, but the other teams call to trade with him.

  37. €√¥£€^$ says:

    I think Joey Keane is a very intriguing mid-round RHD target, a late-bloomer for sure, but the difference between this year and last is like Pluto and Mercury different.

  38. --hudson-- says:

    hunter1909: Here’s the truth:

    Then you start wondering about the “dynasty” players none of whom have gone on to achieve anything much post hockey aside from selling potato chips.

    Funniest thing I’ve read about in a long time!

    On CBC over the weekend they were talking about second chances for coaching and how both Gerard Gallant and Mike Sullivan were making the most of theirs. So I decide to look them up.

    Mike Sullivan’s firing was one of the first things Chiarelli did when hired by the Bruins. Gallant was also fired around the same time in Columbus, I was nervous it was going to be one of the first things Scott Howson did in his tenure there. But luckily instead it was one of the last things Doug MacLean did.

    Let’s not discount what Chiarelli makes of his “second chance”, his reluctance to fire a head coach 😉

  39. OriginalPouzar says:

    Great work, as always.

    That’s the lowest I’ve seen Tkachuk and Dobson and the highest I’ve seen Fabaree (Ty Smith as well but we knew where he was going to be on the LT list).

    LT isn’t buying the Kotkaniemi-hype for the U-18’s performance (and maybe the WJCH performance) as much as some of the others.

    Do we really think DoObson will be available at 10 and can we pass on him (notwithstanding the Q factor)?

  40. OriginalPouzar says:

    If selected by the Oilers, where does everyone think Kotkaniemi WOULD play next October:

    1) Liga
    2) Bakersfield
    3) Edmonton

    If selected by the Oilers, where does everyone think Kotkaniemi SHOULD play next October:

    1) Liga
    2) Bakersfield
    3) Edmonton

  41. ashley says:

    Thanks for the work, LT.

    I have to admit, my patience for draft picks is running out. We have a good roster and should be able to make our way deeper into the playoffs with some better luck, goaltending, and health.

    This draft seems weak when you look at other drafts like the Nurse one for example further dampening my enthusiasm.

    I’m not in the mood to see another MPS-esque pick get touted as the next Gretzky/Orr only to watch him slide into the role of a tweener by 2024.

    It’s time to go for it.

  42. Munny says:

    ashley: Thanks for the work, LT.

    I would like to second that emotion.

  43. OriginalPouzar says:

    godot10:
    Whoever the Oilers pick, and they should make the pick, they should just “forget” about him for three years, and let them develop. This is an affordable player for the start of the 2nd half of McDavid’s Oilers’ career.

    They should not use it for immediate help, unless someone agrees to take Lucic with it.

    Picking ten is too late for me to have a strong opinion on who to pick.I don’t watch enough junior or international hockey anymore.

    I agree with making the pick, 100%.

    The only situation where I’m OK trading the pick is in connection with acquiring an established top 4 right shot puck moving D who is on the right side of 25 and signed with term to a reasonable contract. For example, I’ll take Colton Parayko but we’d have to add materially to the pick (for value and to afford his $5.5M) and its just never going to happen.

    Anyways, my main point is that I don’t agree with putting arbitrary timelines on the developmental timeline of any prospect. Maybe this newly drafted player shouldn’t see an NHL game for three years, mabye they are ready in a year – I’m not shutting that door (in particular if the prospect is a forward).

  44. pts2pndr says:

    Scungilli Slushy: For sure. They will have to wait for him, he needs time. I’m not sure they are in draft and develop mode right now, unless PC knows he’s got more rope than a season.

    At this spot in the draft it is unlikely any player taken offensive or defensive will be ready in less than 2 years. The reason I like this player so much is that I believe he can bcome that offensive D man that all teams want but few have. It is an added bonus that he is a right shot player. The twin B’s Berglund and Bear should provide shelter and allow the Oiler to ripen him slowly. Players just like fruit and wine are better when aged naturaly!

  45. Todd Macallan says:

    OriginalPouzar,

    1,2.

    One point in favour of drafting Kotkaniemi is his ability to play in BAK early, a la Mikko Rantanen. If the top 9 shake out as expected I’d hope the choice is between him and Ty Smith. Personally I’m with our host and would take Smith, but the Finn is intriguing all the same.

  46. hunter1909 says:

    ashley: I’m not in the mood to see another MPS-esque pick get touted as the next Gretzky/Orr only to watch him slide into the role of a tweener by 2024.
    It’s time to go for it.

    Oddly enough, Kevin Lowe wasn’t a bad hockey trader. Lowe rarely if ever got fleeced: unlike Chiarelli’s Circus of Incompetent Hilarity.

    Everyone in the NHL can’t wait to see who fleeces “Chrome Dome” next.

  47. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    MISTER LOWETIDE IN YOUR MOCKDRAFT YOU HAVE BRADLEY THACHUK GOING TO THE BLACKHAWKS AND MAKENZIE SAYS HE’S GOING TO OTTAWA I THINK HE GOES BEFORE THE HAWKS PICK AND YOUR WRONG

  48. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Renaud Lavoie

    @renlavoietva

    Many people have Filip Zabina in the top 3 at the next draft. He was cut by Team Czech Republic and won’t play at the world championship. Martin Kaut who’s also 18 years old, did make it.

  49. jtblack says:

    Munny: I would like to second that emotion.

    Third.

  50. digger50 says:

    hunter1909: Here’s the truth:

    Kevin Lowe remains a person of enormous influence and “soft” power. Despite the fact they officially replaced him, his fingerprints can be seen with everything from MacT still being on the company payroll, to Jesse Puljujarvi’s eminent possibly of getting his name added to the long list of 1st round busts since Lowe+MacT hijacked the team way back in 2000.

    I was as astonished as anyone when this news more or less became public knowledge in the wake of the 2017-18 debacle of another season. How Chiarelli/McLellan were still safe, since they provide ample insulation from Katz’s eventual wrath for that future time when he finally blows his stack.

    Then you start wondering about the “dynasty” players none of whom have gone on to achieve anything much post hockey aside from selling potato chips. It’s not like these dudes are anywhere still near their business/management prime in 2018.

    Methinks this franchise is a joke, has always been a joke since the Lowe/MacT era, is run like a circus, and destroys prospects as regularly as clockwork. It’s GM has handcuffed the team with idiotic cap decisions and no trade contracts which hardly make me feel optimistic.

    Show me a winning team and maybe I change my position lol

    I want to hand out some credit. They were on the right path to go outside the organization for help, as in new GM and new coach.

    But instead of righting the ship, the new hires were dragged under. (Or managed that all on thier own)

    I can’t show you a winning team, but optimistically I can show you a whole bunch of good parts. Connor and Leon are as good of a one – two combo as anywhere in the league. And who has a Nuge who can step into center as needed, or take on top lines as needed. Nuge will make an excellent winger next season but there could come a day we actually have wingers and a team with Nuge as third line center is a contender.

    Jessi P is a great part, fingers crossed. Yammer makes the team.

    Khaira will fill a role. We have a crazy man on the forth line who can add value if they figure out where to play him.

    We have a decent defence. Larson as anchor. Nurse and Klefbom room to grow still. Sekera, Russel, Benning all hold thier own. Good goalie finding consistentcy.

    How’s that for hope?

    With this team in mind we go into the draft with lots of needs. They should be identifying best forward and best d man available, while Peter shops the first. But Peter needs to build a package or whatever it takes to land an excellent player. He generally goes looking for one for one trades and that won’t be enough.

    We need a really good player, not an average NHLer. If Peter can’t find one, and the pick has a higher chance to deliver, then make the pick.

    I hear you OP on the top 4 d man. An upgrade would be great. But if I could choose only one player it would be a top line winger. Play with Drai or Connor. Doesn’t mean that should be the only bullet, but I think the biggest difference maker. Grab Gudas as well. And a good back up.

  51. jtblack says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Renaud Lavoie

    @renlavoietva


    Many people have Filip Zabina in the top 3 at the next draft. He was cut by Team Czech Republic and won’t play at the world championship. Martin Kaut who’s also 18 years old, did make it.

    Where is Kaut ranked I wonder,?

  52. Professor Q says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    Renaud Lavoie

    @renlavoietva


    Many people have Filip Zabina in the top 3 at the next draft. He was cut by Team Czech Republic and won’t play at the world championship. Martin Kaut who’s also 18 years old, did make it.

    This surprisingly happens a lot. MacKinnon, Hall, Nurse, McDavid, Hull, etc. were cut from Team Canada once upon a time.

    DeBrincat had been cut from Team USA. Puljujärvi from Team Finland. Likely higher profile cases have occurred as well.

  53. Andy Dufresne says:

    OriginalPouzar: I agree with making the pick, 100%.

    The only situation where I’m OK trading the pick is in connection with acquiring an established top 4 right shot puck moving D who is on the right side of 25 and signed with term to a reasonable contract.For example, I’ll take Colton Parayko but we’d have to add materially to the pick (for value and to afford his $5.5M) and its just never going to happen.

    Anyways, my main point is that I don’t agree with putting arbitrary timelines on the developmental timeline of any prospect.Maybe this newly drafted player shouldn’t see an NHL game for three years, mabye they are ready in a year – I’m not shutting that door (in particular if the prospect is a forward).

    If its not a bigger deal (OEL, Ryan Ellis) I think we should avoid falling in love with the players that represent the 10th pick. Because much to everyones dismay, the pick could be spent on Justin Faulk.

    Hes 26, RHD under control for 2 more years at $4.8 who has had a down year.

    Oilers were rumoured to be in on him when the cost was RNH (and that was not very long ago).

    If the Oilers cant swing a deal for a big fish……I could definitley see this being the backup position.

    Carolina could fast track a rebuild by adding a Top Dman and a Top Forward in this draft.

  54. slopitch says:

    From Corey Pronman (pls delete if I cant post this)

    SAM GIRARD
    One of the most dangerous draft-eligible offensive defensemen the QMJHL has seen in decades, Girard was great the past two seasons. He’s an elite skater and one of the most elusive small-space skaters I’ve seen in a few years. I don’t love his shot, but he’s very good at creating for his teammates and opening up the ice. Girard’s main knock is his size, as he comes in at a sturdy 5-foot-9. He won’t win a ton of battles, but he’s competitive, doesn’t cross the line with penalties and can win a least a handful of puck battles.

    TY SMITH
    Smith is a good skater who can get up the ice and lead a rush. He has above-average puck skills and can make the odd dynamic play, showing skill on the attack or creating space for a zone exit. His best trait is his hockey IQ, as his instincts and decision-making with the puck are very good. Smith is small, but he’s solid defensively due to his feet and IQ. He works to get to pucks and can be trusted to play in all situations — even if his calling card is more on the offensive side of the puck. Other than his size, I don’t see a glaring weakness in his game, and I think he’ll be a two-way defenseman in the NHL despite his frame.

    Sounds like a very similar report. Which you’d expect given they are both 5″9. I guess my Q would be why Ty Smith would be drafted 35 spots earlier (acknowledging Girard was a steal). I prefer Bouchard but acknowledge he’ll prob be gone at 10. Hes’s 6″2 , RHD and has comparable offense. Id even move up to get him.

  55. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Professor Q: This surprisingly happens a lot. MacKinnon, Hall, Nurse, McDavid, Hull, etc. were cut from Team Canada once upon a time.

    DeBrincat had been cut from Team USA. Puljujärvi from Team Finland. Likely higher profile cases have occurred as well.

    I think it should be easier for a high end kid to make the Czech team compared to Canada, US though.

  56. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    jtblack: Where is Kaut ranked I wonder,?

    As per Elite Prospects:

    Ranked #18 by Hockeyprospect.com
    Ranked #17 by ISS Hockey
    Ranked #34 by Future Considerations
    Ranked #4 by NHL Central Scouting (EU Skaters)

    Source: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=237068

    LT has him 48th

  57. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    digger50,

    – I’m with you: the most effective bang for your buck for the team is a bona-fide 25-28 year old winger in the $2.5 – $4MM range that can play with skill. I think the D, unless you trade Klef or Nurse or Benning, you live with what you’ve got, and bring in another D body

    So in your first 3 lines you have the following wingers top solve for 6 slots:

    1) RNH
    2) New Guy
    3) Pool
    4) Lucic
    5) whoever plays with Conner+ RNH (Rattie: p.s.: I’m trying out: put me down for 18 goals)
    6) Kailer
    7) Cami replacement
    8) Jar-Jar

    – Put Aberg/Caggs/Kassian centered by some guy on the 4rth

    – No clue what that looks like on ice, but that seems the route, barring a massive RHD trade

  58. Kinger_Oil.redux says:

    Andy Dufresne,

    – Back in the day: RNH for Faulk, the question was: what else would we have to give?

    – What is a reasonable return for Faulk now? I wouldn’t trade Nurse or Klef for him.

    – If you could do a Benning + Bear + something that hurt (non-pool)-, do you do that? Does Carolina?

  59. OriginalPouzar says:

    I hear you OP on the top 4 d man. An upgrade would be great. But if I could choose only one player it would be a top line winger. Play with Drai or Connor. Doesn’t mean that should be the only bullet, but I think the biggest difference maker. Grab Gudas as well. And a good back up.

    I would absolutely love a top line winger to play with Drai (or Connor), however, unfortunately, I don’t think our cap structure allows us to acquire such a player, not this year, not next year, not the year after, etc.

    We have extremely limited cap space and a few holes to fill. I think its MUCH harder to fill the 2RD spot internally and/or with young developing players on the cheap, whereas a top 6 winger spot, in particular when playing with a top center like McDavid or Drai can be filled with a recently drafted skill player. For crying out loud, career AHLer Ty Rattie just had a 10 plus game run on that line.

    We should be able to fill top 6 wingers spots with the likes of Yamamoto, Maksimov, etc. for ELC cap hits of apx $1M (or less). We may have to wait a year and feel some more pain (if we can’t find a one-year stop-gap) but I don’t feel like our cap structure allows us to commit any material cap to the top 6 wing in the next few years.

    Of course, if we could dispose of the Lucic contract……

  60. Marc says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think it should be easier for a high end kid to make the Czech team compared to Canada, US though.

    Zadina could be getting punished for moving abroad as a teenager instead of staying in the Czech Republic. If you look at the Czech first round picks from the past few years, none of the ones drafted out of a foreign league (Zacha, Pastrnak, Vrana, Faksa) made the national team as a draft eligible.

    That said, it seems to be really rare for even Czech based draft eligible players to make the team, so that does say something abuot Kaut.

  61. Truth says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think it should be easier for a high end kid to make the Czech team compared to Canada, US though.

    Isn’t it the Czechs that are pushing their younger players to stay at home rather than play in North America? Could be a little retribution by the higher ups at home. Or a reward for the local boy who stayed in the Czech league. However you want to view it if there was only one spot left to give.

  62. Truth says:

    Marc,

    Beat me to it

  63. Santa says:

    Shouldn’t Wahlstrom be getting more love? His numbers are better than Clayton Keller’s were. I definitely agree that the Oilers should try and move up if he’s still around at 7.

  64. Professor Q says:

    How neither Wilson nor Ovechkin have gotten suspended yet these playoffs befuddles me. Utterly ridiculous.

  65. RexLibris says:

    Sixth Round—No. 164 overall—RC Semyon Der-Arguchintsev, Peterborough Petes (OHL). He is a terrific playmaking center and posted strong numbers for Peterborough. Small, good speed, brilliant passer. Edmonton needs skill, this guy has it and no one is talking about him (I think dobber has something on him). Young for this draft season.

    LT, why do you hate Jack Michaels?

    Also, this pick would be the opening of an all-out throw down on traditional hockey nicknames. Just kidding, he’d be “Derry”.

  66. dustrock says:

    Santa:
    Shouldn’t Wahlstrom be getting more love?His numbers are better than Clayton Keller’s were.I definitely agree that the Oilers should try and move up if he’s still around at 7.

    He’s zoomed by playing with next year’s #1 pick Hughes, but he is definitely great and you’re starting to see him above Tkachuk on many lists now.

    I might even take him as the #2 forward after Svechnikov, ahead of Zadina.

    Man he’d look good with McDavid.

  67. Lowetide says:

    Woodguy v2.0:
    MISTER LOWETIDE IN YOUR MOCKDRAFT YOU HAVE BRADLEY THACHUK GOING TO THE BLACKHAWKS AND MAKENZIE SAYS HE’S GOING TO OTTAWA I THINK HE GOES BEFORE THE HAWKS PICK AND YOUR WRONG

    I’m a horrible man.

  68. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Marc: Zadina could be getting punished for moving abroad as a teenager instead of staying in the Czech Republic.If you look at the Czech first round picks from the past few years, none of the ones drafted out of a foreign league (Zacha, Pastrnak, Vrana, Faksa) made the national team as a draft eligible.

    That said, it seems to be really rare for even Czech based draft eligible players to make the team, so that does say something abuot Kaut.

    Thanks for that Marc.

    Makes a lot of sense.

  69. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Truth: Isn’t it the Czechs that are pushing their younger players to stay at home rather than play in North America? Could be a little retribution by the higher ups at home.Or a reward for the local boy who stayed in the Czech league.However you want to view it if there was only one spot left to give.

    however I was posting information and asking questions, not deciding there was one spot to give

  70. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    This tweet sums up how a lot of people read my posts:

    https://twitter.com/The_Nifemi/status/989884747064242176

  71. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Lowetide: I’m a horrible man.

    IM GLAD YOU AGREE NOW PLZ FIX YOUR MOCKRAFT

  72. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Truth: Isn’t it the Czechs that are pushing their younger players to stay at home rather than play in North America? Could be a little retribution by the higher ups at home.Or a reward for the local boy who stayed in the Czech league.However you want to view it if there was only one spot left to give.

    I totally misunderstood your post the first time I read it.

    Sorry about that.

    All on me.

  73. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    Truth: Isn’t it the Czechs that are pushing their younger players to stay at home rather than play in North America? Could be a little retribution by the higher ups at home.Or a reward for the local boy who stayed in the Czech league.However you want to view it if there was only one spot left to give.

    Thanks for that as well

  74. Scungilli Slushy says:

    WayneKenov:
    Say what you want about Chia, but the other teams call to trade with him.

    They’d get fired if they didn’t with his record, and it’s the easiest way in the league to bolster your trading record. Image builder Pete.

  75. Jethro Tull says:

    hunter1909: Oddly enough, Kevin Lowe wasn’t a bad hockey trader. Lowe rarely if ever got fleeced: unlike Chiarelli’s Circus of Incompetent Hilarity.

    Everyone in the NHL can’t wait to see who fleeces “Chrome Dome” next.

    Sometimes it’s the deals you don’t make…..

    Nylander
    Heatley
    Hossa (@ $10M x 8yrs…….in 2008) (Great player, though)

    *Edit: Sometimes it’s the deals you try to make but luckily for you, they fall apart.

  76. digger50 says:

    OriginalPouzar: I would absolutely love a top line winger to play with Drai (or Connor), however, unfortunately, I don’t think our cap structure allows us to acquire such a player, not this year, not next year, not the year after, etc.

    We have extremely limited cap space and a few holes to fill.I think its MUCH harder to fill the 2RD spot internally and/or with young developing players on the cheap, whereas a top 6 winger spot, in particular when playing with a top center like McDavid or Drai can be filled with a recently drafted skill player.For crying out loud, career AHLer Ty Rattie just had a 10 plus game run on that line.

    We should be able to fill top 6 wingers spots with the likes of Yamamoto, Maksimov, etc. for ELC cap hits of apx $1M (or less).We may have to wait a year and feel some more pain (if we can’t find a one-year stop-gap) but I don’t feel like our cap structure allows us to commit any material cap to the top 6 wing in the next few years.

    Of course, if we could dispose of the Lucic contract……

    Oscar. Larson
    Nurse. Sekera
    Russel. Benning
    Bear

    These guys need some help. Another third pairing guy won’t help, it has to be a good solid nhl d man. They could also survive I think pick #10 arrives.

    Nuge. Connor. Rattie
    Pontus. Leon. Yammer
    Lucic. Strome. Jessie
    Drake. Khaira. Kassian

    These guys are not going to the playoffs. Top three as good as any in the league but it’s not enough.

    Of course money comes into play more than ever so have to get it right. A poor trade at this point will be devastating.

  77. hunter1909 says:

    OriginalPouzar: Of course, if we could dispose of the Lucic contract……

    Sather would have traded a $3 million salary retained Lucic to Montreal for a $5 million salary retained Carey Price.

    Beat that!!

  78. OriginalPouzar says:

    Sekera as 2RD is not a viable option, it’s onlu marginally better than having Russell as the 2RD. Yes, Sekera has played the right side a bit in his past and he’s proven to be markedly worse on the left side.

    This experiment with left shot D playing the top 4 on the right side needs to stop and they need to acquire a legit top 4 right shot D that can move the puck.

    We are the worst team in the NHL at moving the puck out our our zone – we are so slow it’s egregious.

    Having player playing 20 minutes at evens on their off side is a big part of the problem. They are simply slower at moving the puck from their off sides and it debilitated our breakout and our offence.

  79. hunter1909 says:

    digger50: I want to hand out some credit. They were on the right path to go outside the organization for help, as in new GM and new coach.
    But instead of righting the ship, the new hires were dragged under. (Or managed that all on thier own)

    Since Chiarelli/McLellan weren’t even considered for sacking it’s become patently obvious there’s a semi drunk Kevin Lowe zooming around the Ice District arena, possessing soft power in the same way the UK possesses soft power in it’s post-empire state.

    In both cases, you basically don’t even notice until the UK/Lowe do something to remind everyone they’re still players.

    You’re 100% right they have some exceptional pieces. Thing is, that’s all they have, and Chiarelli only seems to know how to trade Aces for Jacks, and Kings for Tens.

    It’s not that I don’t wish them well lol

  80. Woodguy v2.0 says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sekera as 2RD is not a viable option, it’s onlu marginally better than having Russell as the 2RD. Yes, Sekera has played the right side a bit in his past and he’s proven to be markedly worse on the left side.

    This experiment with left shot D playing the top 4 on the right side needs to stop and they need to acquire a legit top 4 right shot D that can move the puck.

    We are the worst team in the NHL at moving the puck out our our zone – we are so slow it’s egregious.

    Having player playing 20 minutes at evens on their off side is a big part of the problem.They are simply slower at moving the puck from their off sides and it debilitated our breakout and our offence.

    I think they can make the playoffs with that corps if health holds, but agree they desperately need a real 2RD.

    The tough part is not blowing your brains out to get one.

    Might be a good year to try a stop gap.

    I wonder how cheap Benning lets Tanev go for?

    I’d do it for 2nd this year and a 2nd/3rd next year and give him a large body prospect like Mantha as Jim likes em big.

    Wouldn’t do the first this year.

  81. Bulging Twine says:

    Behind the scenes at the draft lottery.
    Here are the ball numbers drawn:

    1, 4, 6, 14 BUF
    1, 2, 5, 14 CAR
    1, 2, 6, 12 BUF
    4, 5, 6, 8 MTL

    Ball #1 and #6 drawn 3/4 times, both Buffalo balls. What are the odds of that?

  82. pts2pndr says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sekera as 2RD is not a viable option, it’s onlu marginally better than having Russell as the 2RD. Yes, Sekera has played the right side a bit in his past and he’s proven to be markedly worse on the left side.

    This experiment with left shot D playing the top 4 on the right side needs to stop and they need to acquire a legit top 4 right shot D that can move the puck.

    We are the worst team in the NHL at moving the puck out our our zone – we are so slow it’s egregious.

    Having player playing 20 minutes at evens on their off side is a big part of the problem.They are simply slower at moving the puck from their off sides and it debilitated our breakout and our offence.

    OriginalPouzar,

    TThey are coached to use the go fetch zone exit! That is were the defenseman pounds the puck off the boards and the wingers go fetch. Easy to teach and doesn’t require a great deal of skill for the D!

  83. Harpers Hair says:

    Woodguy v2.0: I think they can make the playoffs with that corps if health holds, but agree they desperately need a real 2RD.

    The tough part is not blowing your brains out to get one.

    Might be a good year to try a stop gap.

    I wonder how cheap Benning lets Tanev go for?

    I’d do it for 2nd this year and a 2nd/3rd next year and give him a large body prospect like Mantha as Jim likes em big.

    Wouldn’t do the first this year.

    Likely going to be competing with Toronto for Tanev. Don’t think a second and middling prospect like Mantha gets it done. Kapanens name has come up.

  84. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: OriginalPouzar,

    TThey are coached to use the go fetch zone exit! That is were the defenseman pounds the puck off the boards and the wingers go fetch. Easy to teach and doesn’t require a great deal of skill for the D!

  85. Lowetide says:

    Based on the verbal, I think the RH blue is going to be a more substantial offensive player. As close to Dumba as can be reached with what is available.

  86. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr: OriginalPouzar,

    TThey are coached to use the go fetch zone exit! That is were the defenseman pounds the puck off the boards and the wingers go fetch. Easy to teach and doesn’t require a great deal of skill for the D!

    I remain convinced that in no way are they coached as the primary option to reset, go D to D or give up possession in any way but are still encouraged to move the puck forward as quickly as possible, however, given the personnel and players playing over their heads and on the off-side, they default to other options.

  87. Lowetide says:

    dustrock:
    Regarding Ty Smith, I will try to link to the tweets but I am hopeless with technology.

    ND Red Eagle
    ‏ @NDRedEagle
    Apr 11

    Back to Ty Smith. Best even-strength pts/gm among pre-draft WHL defensemen past 16 years. 2nd: Seth Jones. But 18 of Jones’s 23 EV assists are marked down as secondary. So for primary EV pts/game it is:

    0.42 Ty Smith (29 in 69)
    0.25 Seth Jones (15 in 61)

    https://twitter.com/NDRedEagle/status/984206893559066624

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    Ty Smith vs. Calen Addison based on percentile rank within a group of 118 CHL defenders (5v5 only).

    Smith’s a bit more shooting oriented, Addison playmaking. Smith’s more aggressive entering the OZ, while Addison chooses controlled plays more often.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989628115067514880

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    The average for defencemen: Ty Smith (2018), Kale Clague (LAK) in the top grouping, followed closely by Timmins (COL), Dobson (2018), Merkley (2018), Sandin (2018), Fleury (MTL), Addison (2018).

    Bouchard, Beaudin, Keane, Kral (2018 eligibles) are in the next tier.
    9:25 AM – 24 Apr 2018

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/988816287769026561

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown

    NZ defence is particularly noteworthy here, as Smith is one of the best in all three measures, whereas Addison is only in one. Addison forces dump ins (Ctrl Entry Against %) well, but when players challenge him 1v1, he’s been unable to stop them in this sample.
    3:14 PM – 26 Apr 2018

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989628808759214080

    RE HUGHES

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown
    Apr 26

    I have data on him, but my NCAA data set isn’t large enough (only 3 teams), so comparisons like the above one aren’t possible.

    But, here are some snippets: He produces scoring chances at a better rate than manyof the top-6 Fs, and he’s the best D at exits/entries by far.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/989632315440627713

    Mitch Brown
    ‏ @MitchLBrown
    Apr 17

    Ryan Merkley’s playmaking is on another level compared to other CHL defenceman prospects. He creates double the scoring chance assists than other top CHL blue line #2018NHLDraft prospects like Bouchard, Addison, Smith, and Beaudin.

    https://twitter.com/MitchLBrown/status/986255581689327618

    Interesting post that got caught up in the filter

  88. Scungilli Slushy says:

    Professor Q:
    How neither Wilson nor Ovechkin have gotten suspended yet these playoffs befuddles me. Utterly ridiculous.

    Ovi has always been allowed to head hunt, has toned it down the last few seasons.

  89. hunter1909 says:

    Jake DeBrusk is an exceptional player. Boston has an identity and it might win them a new cup.

    Las Vegas are an exceptional team. Never before in hockey history have players of this calibre(9th, 8th worst on every NHL team across the board) been placed together like some 1980 USA college hockey team – playing as motivated as any team I’ve ever seen. Fleury also provides elite goaltending that the Oilers endlessly seek yet never quite find.

    Some decry the idea of them winning the cup in their first season. Well, since there are currently zero Oilers to worry about and for all anyone knows another season or more like the last lies ahead…

    I just hope the rotten fish(San Jose Sharks) lose and lose quickly.

    Vegas Golden Knights Bandwagon fan

  90. Scungilli Slushy says:

    pts2pndr: At this spot in the draft it is unlikely any player taken offensive or defensive will be ready in less than 2 years. The reason I like this player so much is that I believe he can bcome that offensive D man that all teams want but few have. It is an added bonus that he is a right shot player. The twin B’s Berglund and Bear should provide shelter and allow the Oiler to ripen him slowly. Players just like fruit and wine are better when aged naturaly!

    A top 10 pick has a lot of value and very good players are regularly found there, but when the coach and GM are on the hot seat there is a lot of motivation for them to trade the pick for short term reasons.

    And try to fill the hole made later, if they survive.

    I’m ok with that if the return is right. Of course that hasn’t happened in quite a while for the Oilers.

  91. Scungilli Slushy says:

    OriginalPouzar: I remain convinced that in no way are they coached as the primary option to reset, go D to D or give up possession in any way but are still encouraged to move the puck forward as quickly as possible, however, given the personnel and players playing over their heads and on the off-side, they default to other options.

    Ellis was resetting constantly last game. They are a lot better at it of course. For the Oilers the little details aren’t right.

    I believe a lot of it is on the forwards, a lot of inexperience or done vets. And some players that can’t get the scenario laying in front of them, as in engaging as hard as they can in order to stick in the NHL.

  92. digger50 says:

    A few potential targets:

    Gudas – flyers may be looking to make some room

    Domi – good player, chance to buy low

    Blake Coleman – character and penalty kill

    Nick Merkley – in AHL can play with skill. Redundant to Arizona

    Adam Mascherin – watch to see if his price drops. Better chance with a third than present draft

    Josh Leivo – could help

    Martin Necas – because VOR says he’s the answer

    Though I do agree the “right” player if you can find him can have substantial value, and it’s not always about scoring.

  93. ArmchairGM says:

    Kinger_Oil.redux:
    Andy Dufresne,

    – If you could do a Benning + Bear + something that hurt (non-pool)-, do you do that?Does Carolina?

    I wouldn’t do that. Most of Benning’s fancies are better than Faulk’s – even vs elite (16-17). Your suggested trade is a huge, huge overpayment. Benning and Bear combined cost less than Faulk yet have more value to this club. I wouldn’t even do that let alone add.

  94. Scungilli Slushy says:

    ArmchairGM: I wouldn’t do that. Most of Benning’s fancies are better than Faulk’s – even vs elite (16-17). Your suggested trade is a huge, huge overpayment. Benning and Bear combined cost less than Faulk yet have more value to this club. I wouldn’t even do that let alone add.

    According to WGs magic algorithm Faulk is a drag on partners, which is likely why they want to move him and no takers.

    For a sweet deal sure, he’s younger and being traded for a humble purse might shake him up, but not a lot.

  95. jtblack says:

    Thanks for all the posts!! Just catching up.

    Smith vs Addison. good info.
    If Addy is around at 41, we gotta grab him.

    Go VGS!!

  96. pts2pndr says:

    digger50

    You are correct given your lineup. Start with your first line. You then put Khaira and JP with Drai and run a third line of Lucic Strome and Kassian. Make up a fouth line of the remaining players while inserting center off the farm.you now have three lines that are capable of breaking even or better. Given the TV tmeouts etc the fourth line only gets limited play at the best of times.Forces the other teams to go more with three lines and does not water down our roster.

  97. sliderule says:

    Draft year comparison
    Kris Russell 5-10 170 .85 pts /game drafted third round
    Ty Smith. 5-10 170 1 pts / game

    I know hockey has changed in 12 years but I hope Smith is as tough as Russell

  98. Richard S.S. says:

    Whoever the Oilers might need to may the Team better will not be cheap. More than one Team could be after that/those players. To get who/what you want, meet the other Teams price.

  99. Scungilli Slushy says:

    sliderule:
    Draft year comparison
    Kris Russell 5-10 170.85 pts /game drafted third round
    Ty Smith. 5-10 1701 pts / game

    I know hockey has changed in 12 years but I hope Smith is as tough as Russell

    To me reach helps a lot, so successful D ‘tend’ to be taller. But with a partner that complements it works well like Chara and McAvoy. Take Chara away from the young D and I’d bet the clock moves back.

    If Nurse can be the size on a pair a shorter more offensive type could work.

    Teams nowadays will attack weakness soon. Two that can be pushed physically will be.

  100. Scungilli Slushy says:

    The Oilers need to find 4 lines that can play as needed. The 3rd or 4 th need to be able to saw off a skill line from the opponent, so that the top 2 get air. One of the 3rd or 4thcan be the softer minutes line learning.

    3 lines need to be trustworthy, and 2 D pairs, and the 3rd can’t be a tire fire.

  101. who says:

    OriginalPouzar:
    Sekera as 2RD is not a viable option, it’s onlu marginally better than having Russell as the 2RD. Yes, Sekera has played the right side a bit in his past and he’s proven to be markedly worse on the left side.

    This experiment with left shot D playing the top 4 on the right side needs to stop and they need to acquire a legit top 4 right shot D that can move the puck.

    We are the worst team in the NHL at moving the puck out our our zone – we are so slow it’s egregious.

    Having player playing 20 minutes at evens on their off side is a big part of the problem.They are simply slower at moving the puck from their off sides and it debilitated our breakout and our offence.

    You only “THINK” Sekera can’t handle the right side on a second pairing with Nurse.
    I’m assuming you are basing this on his play in his first season here. Please keep in mind he was playing top pairing minutes with a rookie Nurse and was in his first season with the team. Nurse has come a long way since then.
    I would like to try this alignment before they go and blow more assets and/or cap space on another righty dman. Cause you are going to have to overpay to get one.
    I have no idea if Sekera would be successful on the right side of a second pairing. But neither do you.

  102. jtblack says:

    Stuart Skinner stopped 19 of 20 1st period shots.

    Beatan by Calen Addison (draft eligible). LT has at 20th I believe.

  103. OriginalPouzar says:

    pts2pndr:
    digger50


    You are correct given your lineup. Start with your first line. You then put Khaira and JPwith Drai and run a third line of Lucic Strome and Kassian. Make up a fouth line of the remaining players while inserting center off the farm.you now have three lines that are capable of breaking even or better. Given the TV tmeouts etc the fourth line only gets limited play at the best of times.Forces the other teams to go more with three lines and does not water down our roster.

    Although, given our cap situation and the need to spend any cap space on the 2RD position, this is the situation I’m in and I don’t mind that lineup all that much, however, we are relying on:

    1) JP, who played 3RW for most of the 2nd half of last season, to move up to 2RW
    2) Khaira, who played 4C most of the 2nd half of last season, to move up to 2LW
    3) Kassian, who played 4RW most lof last season, to move up to 3RW

    Similar to how we were counting on internal improvement from the youngsters this past season (which didn’t pan out), that lineup counts on the same. With that said, we cannot spend any material cap with term on top 6 wingers so this is the position we are in again this coming season.

  104. digger50 says:

    pts2pndr:
    digger50


    You are correct given your lineup. Start with your first line. You then put Khaira and JPwith Drai and run a third line of Lucic Strome and Kassian. Make up a fouth line of the remaining players while inserting center off the farm.you now have three lines that are capable of breaking even or better. Given the TV tmeouts etc the fourth line only gets limited play at the best of times.Forces the other teams to go more with three lines and does not water down our roster.

    Agree you can tweak lines here and get more but no matter how you do it we come up short. And there’s is no reason to be playing three lines, if that’s how you start a season you are in big trouble. A few of those guys over thier heads already. So agree it needs work?

    I like that little LT saying “can you win a cup with X as your third line center?” Or pick another position.

    We are just not there – yet we have the hardest to find element which is top end skill.

    I’m not good at cap calculations but:

    Add Domi to that line up and it gets better
    Add Grabner or Maroon and it gets better (low cost UFA)
    Add Coleman or Rieder

    These suggestions are not long shots, I think we can get there and stay under the cap

    Just talking forwards OP! Ha

  105. digger50 says:

    Forgot- you know Todd will be starting Milan 2LW on opening night right?

  106. VOR says:

    Martin Necas nearly perfectly fits my model of the sort of player Connor McDavid needs on his wing to reach his optimal potential. McDavid needs a “where did he go player” as a linemate. I can tell you as a goalie there are guys you hate to play against because a split second of inattention and they’ve teleported themselves 10 or 15 feet from where you last saw them changing the angles and turning a harmless 2 on 2 into a lethal scoring chance.

    From a goalie’s viewpoint it looks like magic. But of course the “where did he go player” has outstanding lateral motion, tremendous edge control, and enormous one step power. To be effective they also need soft hands, a sniper’s accuracy, and the smarts and touch to return the pass and turn their linemate into a scoring machine.

    Now in Connor McDavid’s case the winger needs to be able to play F1 and be really good at checking. Not to mention fully committing to puck support. An outstanding face off man would be ideal.

    Think of Martin Necas as Jacques Lemaire and RNH as Steve Shutt. They free Connor up to cheat for offence and then can skate themselves back into the play at the other end. Combined they would give Connor almost unlimited offensive options and opposing D and goalies nightmares.

    My thinking is you don’t want RNH as your F1 because his offence tends to suffer if he is too deep and too engaged in defence. Young Mr. Necas appears not just to possess an outstanding 200 foot game but gives every appearance of loving the role of F1. He comes joyfully racing back and is usually the first man back. So Necas would be F1, RNH F2, and Connor F3.

  107. who says:

    VOR:
    Martin Necas nearly perfectly fits my model of the sort of player Connor McDavid needs on his wing to reach his optimal potential. McDavid needs a “where did he go player” as a linemate. I can tell you as a goalie there are guys you hate to play against because a split second of inattention and they’ve teleported themselves 10 or 15 feet from where you last saw them changing the angles and turning a harmless 2 on 2 into a lethal scoring chance.

    From a goalie’s viewpoint it looks like magic. But of course the “where did he go player” has outstanding lateral motion, tremendous edge control, and enormous one step power. To be effective they also need soft hands, a sniper’s accuracy, and the smarts and touch to return the pass and turn their linemate into a scoring machine.

    Now in Connor McDavid’s case the winger needs to be able to play F1 and be really good at checking. Not to mention fully committing to puck support. An outstanding face off man would be ideal.

    Think of Martin Necas as Jacques Lemaire and RNH as Steve Shutt. They free Connor up to cheat for offence and then can skate themselves back into the play at the other end. Combined they would give Connor almost unlimited offensive options and opposing D and goalies nightmares.

    My thinking is you don’t want RNH as your F1 because his offence tends to suffer if he is too deep and too engaged in defence. Young Mr. Necas appears not just to possess an outstanding 200 foot game but gives every appearance of loving the role of F1. He comes joyfully racing back and is usually the first man back. So Necas would be F1, RNH F2, and Connor F3.

    Is Necas the Carolina first rounder from last year?
    If so, I think he was one of Carolina’s best players in the 2 game exhibition series last fall. Why do you think he is available?
    I would consider trading 10OV for someone like him and a sweetener. Or maybe we add something and they add Faulk.

  108. leadfarmer says:

    who: Is Necas the Carolina first rounder from last year?
    If so, I think he was one of Carolina’s best players in the 2 game exhibition series last fall. Why do you think he is available?
    I would consider trading 10OV for someone like him and a sweetener. Or maybe we add something and they add Faulk.

    No way they trade Necas short of Puljujarvi. Canes just need to stay patient. Aho Svechnikov Necas is a good forward group in a couple years

  109. who says:

    leadfarmer: No way they trade Necas short of Puljujarvi.Canes just need to stay patient.Aho Svechnikov Necasis a good forward group in a couple years

    I agree. Don’t see why they would trade him.

  110. Confused says:

    Skinner keeps it going, big performance.

    Looking like a quality trade-up.

  111. VOR says:

    The only reason I think Necas might be available is the new owner being impatient, interfering, and having not a clue what he is doing and refusing to listen to anyone who does. In other words it is at best a long shot but not an impossibility. Not to mention Necas is Francis’ guy/pick. And Francis and the new owner have some issues, most recently leading to Francis being told to work from home.

  112. N64 says:

    VOR: , most recently leading to Francis being told to work from home.

    more recently dismissed.

  113. OriginalPouzar says:

    Skinner stops 33 of 34 in a 5-1 Broncos win and they advance to the WHL Final.

  114. VOR says:

    N64: more recently dismissed.

    Hard to keep up with that soap opera and the red wine summits at the same time.

    The thing is that when GMs do change there is a tendency to throw out the most recent prospects of the previous regime lest they turn out to make your predecesor look good. You can’t do much with establsihed stars and veteran role players but tweeners and anyone out side the NHL are often victims of a change in management. The new GM thinks of it as “putting his stamp” on the team.

  115. VOR says:

    Its like Fagan said,

    “When I see someone rich, both my thumbs start to itch. Only to find some peace of mind. We have to pick-a-pocket or two.”

    New rich owner – Tom Dundon, wants GM to answer directly to him and he wants to be invloved in every little detail. New GM wants to “put his stamp” on team. New owner wants to “put his stamp” on team.

    Prospects from last regime in way of stamping process.

    Team has stockpiled great prospect base.

    My thumbs are itching something wicked.

    How about yours?

  116. YKOil says:

    leadfarmer: No way they trade Necas short of Puljujarvi.Canes just need to stay patient.Aho Svechnikov Necasis a good forward group in a couple years

    Just going to throw this out there… Carolina is in a fair state of upheaval right now so if there was ever a time to be spending time having talks and drinks with Dundon – this is it. I don’t think he would trade the 2nd overall but I get the sense he wants a VERY different team or team-style.

    Don’t assume Dundon will do something stupid. Don’t assume Dundon won’t. Interesting times in Carolina.

    If Dundon wants a tougher team then Lucic is the obvious choice (yes, I know, NMC and PC won’t trade his prototype) but another possibility is Kassian. No blockbusters needed but a trade of Kassian for the rights of van Riemsdyk is a winning trade every day of the week. Short of a trade of Lucic to the Canes, this is my favoured trade scenario with Carolina.

    There is also the question of Kruger. One year left at $3.08 million. If you want to get funky and remain concerned about long-term cap effects then Sekera and Kassian for Faulk and Kruger may make some sense. Oilers get their RD and if Kruger plays that’s fine and if he goes to the minors then they are up $500k on the year, and then Kruger is gone. A better version of this trade may be to switch in Lindholm for Kruger (though a draft pick would have to flow Carolina’s way for that to make sense).

    (btw, I wonder if Faulk just needs a baby-sitter, used to be Hainsey)

    Too many of Carolina’s good pieces are pieces they are probably too smart to trade but there is room to swing a deal there.

    Interesting times in Carolina.

  117. Tarkus says:

    I also like what Fagen said,

    “Now you swear and kick and beg us that you’re not a gamblin’ man;
    Then you find you’re back in Vegas with a handle in your hand
    Your black cards can make you money so you hide them when you’re able
    In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table”

  118. YKOil says:

    VOR:
    The only reason I think Necas might be available is the new owner being impatient, interfering, and having not a clue what he is doing and refusing to listen to anyone who does. In other words it is at best a long shot but not an impossibility. Not to mention Necas is Francis’ guy/pick. And Francis and the new owner have some issues, most recently leading to Francis being told to work from home.

    Heh, we are in the same ballpark methinks. Would definitely be worth it to see just what kind of crazy Dundon has in mind. If he drops faith in some of the better prospects then go to town I say.

  119. GMB3 says:

    No way Carolina trades Necas.

    What a save by fleury in OT tonight

  120. YKOil says:

    GMB3:
    No way Carolina trades Necas.

    What a save by fleury in OT tonight

    In regards to Fleury’s impact in LV, shades of Gretzky in LA.

  121. --hudson-- says:

    VOR:
    Martin Necas nearly perfectly fits my model of the sort of player Connor McDavid needs on his wing to reach his optimal potential. McDavid needs a “where did he go player” as a linemate. I can tell you as a goalie there are guys you hate to play against because a split second of inattention and they’ve teleported themselves 10 or 15 feet from where you last saw them changing the angles and turning a harmless 2 on 2 into a lethal scoring chance.

    From a goalie’s viewpoint it looks like magic. But of course the “where did he go player” has outstanding lateral motion, tremendous edge control, and enormous one step power. To be effective they also need soft hands, a sniper’s accuracy, and the smarts and touch to return the pass and turn their linemate into a scoring machine.

    Now in Connor McDavid’s case the winger needs to be able to play F1 and be really good at checking. Not to mention fully committing to puck support. An outstanding face off man would be ideal.

    Think of Martin Necas as Jacques Lemaire and RNH as Steve Shutt. They free Connor up to cheat for offence and then can skate themselves back into the play at the other end. Combined they would give Connor almost unlimited offensive options and opposing D and goalies nightmares.

    My thinking is you don’t want RNH as your F1 because his offence tends to suffer if he is too deep and too engaged in defence. Young Mr. Necas appears not just to possess an outstanding 200 foot game but gives every appearance of loving the role of F1. He comes joyfully racing back and is usually the first man back. So Necas would be F1, RNH F2, and Connor F3.

    Maybe something can be built around Puljujarvi for Necas and Faulk? Carolina gets a guy who has chemistry with Aho with high pedigree and Oilers plug two holes. Maybe add picks to balance out talent disparity and maybe a contract or two.

  122. GMB3 says:

    –hudson–: Maybe something can be built around Puljujarvi for Necas and Faulk?Carolina gets a guy who has chemistry with Aho with high pedigree and Oilers plug two holes.Maybe add picks to balance out talent disparity and maybe a contract or two.

    I cannot foresee a deal of that magnitude being done with an interim GM. I would be interested in it though. Especially with Necas playing some center I don’t think Carolina would move him

  123. OriginalPouzar says:

    Everett wins last night setting up an Everett vs. S. Current WHL final – Carter Hart vs. Stuart Skinner.

    Should be awesome.

  124. OriginalPouzar says:

    Canada and Latvia on now in a pre-tournament game – can be streamed on TSN GO.

    Nurse partnered with Parayko – a dream pairing!

  125. OriginalPouzar says:

    McDavid remains fast.

    Its interesting watching with the, presumably, Latvian, announcers…..

  126. €√¥£€^$ says:

    –hudson–: Maybe something can be built around Puljujarvi for Necas and Faulk?Carolina gets a guy who has chemistry with Aho with high pedigree and Oilers plug two holes.Maybe add picks to balance out talent disparity and maybe a contract or two.

    Hope is a good thing to have, but I no longer have confidence in Chiarelli to be able to get any deals done that won’t cost an arm and a leg for a pinky return.

    He is in survival mode, but this scares me even more. There is little evidence that he has the ability to make good deals; his brainiac Hall for Lucic loser chess move, Russell for 2 yrs too long and $1.5-2 million/per yr too much, the multiple goalie swings and misses, the feeble AHL UFA signings and the Pouliot buy-out are evidence of his inabilities.

    From my perspective his best moves (Maroon, Kassian and Talbot) were easy due to dealing with a motivated trader, I wouldn’t say he was the architech of the deals, they just “fell into his lap” because these players were going to be moved.

    So I am hoping for the best, but I am expecting the worst unfortunately….

  127. Islanders News: Belmont, prospects and Lou-culation – InfoBreaker says:

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