Sharks at Oilers, G53/07-08

I completely forgot there was a game! Not much to say about the game, my expectation is the Oilers will not win tonight and that we won’t have an answer for Joe Thornton.

Look forward to those Craig MacTavish “Bette Davis Eyes” looks at the clock after every SJS goal.

One assumes MacT is looking at the clock in hopes he won’t miss last call.

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44 Responses to "Sharks at Oilers, G53/07-08"

  1. Mr DeBakey says:

    Thank God
    it was nearly time to start phoning around to the hospitals

    Matt Greene starts
    with Thing One in the famous
    Greene Hat Trick

  2. Lowetide says:

    These are two teams that match up nicely for a trade. I can see Staios or Pitkanen helping out tremendously in San Jose and one of those young wingers coming back would be nice.

  3. PDO says:

    Debakey…

    A hook, a hold and a rough?

  4. PunjabiOil says:

    Time for a new pic Lowetide. That one’s been used too often :)

    Matt Greene with another bad penalty. Jason Smith my ass.

  5. Lowetide says:

    I think it’ll be a cheaper player and a pick coming back, Lowe imo will try to grab another pick in the top 50.

    PJ Oil: It’s a picture of Smid looking like he’s making a successful pass off the rush which makes it a collector’s item. :-)

  6. PDO says:

    LT:

    Was Steve Staios flying the zone looking for a breakaway? :-)

  7. Dennis says:

    - 10 years ago it wouldn’t matter that Greene’s slow and likes to hook and hold; but now it does. He might keep drawing a cheque from the Oilers because he’s a good guy and he’s funny in the room but he’s doing the same shit now that he did two years ago.

    - Very nice period by Smid. He’s winning a lot of battles now and making nice little short passes.

    - I don’t know what happened to Tarnstrom but what in the fuck was he at on that penalty call?

    - You get the feeling that whomever plays with the 10-27-83-16 quartet on the PP is gonna be the odd man out but in any case, I’d have Gilbert there instead of Pitkanen.

    - Anyone else really afraid early on by the looks of Garon’s rebound control? I swear it was superball-esque the first three or four shots.

    - They didn’t score but the PP still looked good. Same stuff happening all the time which usually leads to success.

    - Great defensive play by 89 to lead to the 13 breakway. Nice job by 12 as well to realize that momentum was going to carry the day on any potential scoring chance.

    Not a bad period by the Oilers at all. SOG was askew but I had the feeling that the Oilers had just as many scoring chances.

  8. Tyler says:

    Have I missed osmething? I notice that Penner lost the draw there. Did Horc get thrown out of the draw?

  9. Quain says:

    Garon has a case of the Rolosons tonight. It’s a bit frightening.

  10. honkey says:

    This is a boring game to watch.
    You have to shoot the puck to win hockey games. 8 shots in 40 min of play is just terrible.
    I don’t expect Oilers to win a game like this but they have to put in a much better effort.
    Some forechecking and hitting would be nice.

  11. Lowetide says:

    This Oilers team (when the kids are on the ice) reminds me of the young Andres Galarraga.

    First pitch: Outside part of the plate, fastball that the Cat gets a big piece of but he fouls it back. It looked dangerous though.

    0-1.

    Second pitch: Pitcher takes something off, it’s a similar looking pitch but maybe a BP fastball or a curve that fades. Well off the plate but the young batter swings away despite the fact that the catcher must leave his crouch early in order to save a pb.

    0-2.

    And then you’re dead.

  12. mc79hockey says:

    Is LT picking the between periods pieces now?

  13. Mr DeBakey says:

    I’m reminded of the
    Headline in today’s Journal:
    “Lethal Injection: How it Works”

  14. Lowetide says:

    I just want to say there were several errors in that piece and they did not BEGIN to describe how bizarre Charlie O was.

    The original owner btw was a man named Barend Van Gerbig.

  15. Bank Shot says:

    Yea Greene is a real minor penalty machine if you ignore his last 100 games or so. :p

    He does seem to be having some balance issues since coming back from injury though. He’s been wiping out constantly.

    San Jose really plays their system to a T. The Oilers can’t keep getting seduced by the extra room on the perimeter. The Oilers have been doing alright in terms of zone possession (in the first period anyway), but they haven’t got much of anything to the inside.
    I don’t think the Sharks have a slow player on their team. They’re everywhere.

    Pitkanen has been lazy and stupid tonight. Moreau and Stoll kind of decided to coast back on the Grier goal. Garon needs some more help. He’s been great.

    How many rookies has San Jose worked into their lineup in the last three seasons? 11-12? They all seem to have really positive impacts too.

  16. Lowetide says:

    My word Patrick Marleau is stealing money tonight.

  17. Mr DeBakey says:

    Rob Brown says

    “The Oilers gotta get pucks on net”

    Ya think?

  18. Lowetide says:

    Mike Grier is a beauty. I think the Oilers and Sharks can do a deal at the deadline but find myself wishing they’d make a trade tonight.

  19. Bank Shot says:

    Marleau is about as hard working as Rob Brown is insightful.

    LT: You’re dead on about the Sharks needing D for the playoffs.

    This team is grittier and deeper through four lines then the Sharks team the Oiler rolled. A couple more D and they could make noise.

  20. honkey says:

    I’m curious why the crowd and the fans doesn’t show more anger and boos in a game like this.
    You could hear a few here and there, if this had been a game here in SEL with Luleå half the crowd would have left after 2nd period under massive boos and protest.

  21. dawgbone says:

    LT, you can’t even blame this game on the young guys.

    They generated some of the best chances the oilers got (few as they were).

    The problem is that the Horcoff line got owned, and there’s no way this team is going to win when guys like Rismiller and Pavelski (with Joe no where in sight) manage to outshoot your top line.

  22. Lowetide says:

    Agreed bank shot. My problem with San Jose is which Dmen do you keep?

    Rivet, Ehrhoff, Carle, Murray, Vlasic.

    Even if you add Pitkanen to that group is it a championship group?

    They may have to add two quality defenders to this hockey team.

  23. Lowetide says:

    dawgbone: Oh yeah, I’m with you that the kids weren’t the problem tonight. Oilers were a half bubble off plumb from mid-1st imo and they didn’t have much plus Garon has resembled Tommy Gun twice lately.

    I’d like to pullback that big contract offer for Garon and wait until next season please.

    He’s been goof overall but cracks are forming.

  24. David says:

    The Oilers have been doing alright in terms of zone possession (in the first period anyway), but they haven’t got much of anything to the inside.

    With the exception of Penner, to a man, the Oilers forwards are afraid to spend any time in front of or near the net. None of them will drive the puck to the net, and none of them will even get in on the forecheck and throw the body anymore (2 years ago, they were very good in this regards) despite the fact the Sharks were doing exactly that and forcing all sorts of turnovers. We have way too many forwards that aren’t skill players thinking they are skill players.

  25. David says:

    Now that I think about it, someone needs to show the boys the Savard video from last week when his team gave a soft effort in their last game before the break.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4DPjKNQCvo

    I would love MacT to come out with something like that once in a while. There’s nothig to lose at this point.

  26. Dennis says:

    It’s almost a night where I’d give up and say to Lowe, “Listen, you got me. You made this team unwatchable and not worth anyone’s time for the last two seasons and next year will be the same so have fun with your rebuild and Kool Aid distribution.”

    LT: I’m on Garon, wondering how he hangs with the heavy workload and he let in three vs LA, got bombed vs Car and then let in a bad one to start the game in Fla. But I’ve got a hard job blaming much on him tonight.

    The first line had a rare offnight and our PP didn’t click and when those thigns happen we’re pretty much fucked.

  27. Slipper says:

    The good news is, I have the Oilers down for only 5 errors tonight.

    Always look on the bright side, right?

  28. David says:

    Nope, MacT didn’t come out angry, he came out with his usual bland comments (“we had a few chances at the start”, “need to work hard at it tomorrow”). It is like he was watching a different game.

    Dennis, I am with you. It cost me $170 a year for Centre Ice and a lot of hours to watch this team, and for the second year in a row it is clear that the joke’s on me. I think I am going to turn off the TV, spend a few more evenings out watching the Seattle Thunderbirds live, and have a lot more free time.

  29. marriedtotheoil says:

    That (game) was awful. But good call on the Bette Davis eyes–I’ve been noting and enjoying them myself for awhile without as good a moniker.

  30. Slipper says:

    Damn. I spent $170 dollars on scratch and wins and gum on my way home from work this afternoon. Do they pay people in fucking pesos, or something, out east?

  31. Slipper says:

    “Commit to The Indian”

    Holy smokes. I hope that becomes the new banner and slogan for the Blackhawks. There’s enough right there to make think twice about jumping from one bandwagon to another.

  32. David says:

    Damn. I spent $170 dollars on scratch and wins and gum on my way home from work this afternoon. Do they pay people in fucking pesos, or something, out east?

    If you consult an atlas, you may find that Seattle is south west of Edmonton. Check it out.

  33. Lowetide says:

    “Commit to the Indian”

    Jesus Murphy, can you even SAY that nowadays? Seriously. I mean he’s clearly mad but that’s got to be offensive to someone.

  34. Slipper says:

    David lives in Seattle? Whoops. My bad.

    But how about the five error game, Staples?

    Tell me how you really feel.

  35. David says:

    Jesus Murphy, can you even SAY that nowadays? Seriously. I mean he’s clearly mad but that’s got to be offensive to someone.

    Ignoring whether that’s PC for a minute, I think Savard is making a very good point which I have heard made by other retired players lately – namely, that as the players become richer and given rock-star status, they are far more focused on themselves and far less focused on the team and it’s ultimate success. Say what you like about Savard, but he is an incredibly loyal guy (he stuck with the Hawks in a number of roles through a lot), and I think this league could use more of that attitude.

  36. Slipper says:

    Places where Indian is still an accepted moniker: Prison, moving vans, reserves.

    Places where I’m guessing it’s unacceptable: universites, government, hock post game scrums, my sisters house at Christmas.

  37. mc79hockey says:

    Places where I’m guessing it’s unacceptable: universites, government, hock post game scrums, my sisters house at Christmas.

    You, my friend, are clearly unfamiliar with the Indian Act.

  38. heed says:

    Jesus Murphy, can you even SAY that nowadays? Seriously. I mean he’s clearly mad but that’s got to be offensive to someone.

    it will only be offensive once the “tiger woods” of hockey comes along because it is pretty clear that minorities don’t watch hockey.

  39. PDO says:


    it will only be offensive once the “tiger woods” of hockey comes along because it is pretty clear that minorities don’t watch hockey.

    They don’t seem to have a problem with the Washington Red Skins or the Cleveland Indians….

    I think the real test will be when Joanne Ireland suggests we lynch said superstar in the backyard.

  40. Bruce says:

    Well we got a different logo so I guess it’s OK to say we need to commit to the Oil drop. Didn’t see near enough of that commitment tonight.

    I was given freebies to tonight’s game, so as I already wrote to the kind friend who gave me the tickets he got the better end of the deal as he only had to pay for the game; I had to watch it.

    Where to start? Maybe with some statistics: 11 hits, 13 shots, 19 giveaways. That is nothing short of putrid. It seemed like 10 of those giveaways were passes to the Sharks point men on pathetic clearing attempts, and there is no count of the number of failed breakouts or passes back across one or both bluelines.

    There were maybe 5 or 6 players who were half decent tonight. Thankfully Garon was one of them or this could easily have been 5-0 or 7-0. His glove robbery of Pavelski’s perfect shot was something to see; I was sitting behind the net where the Sharks fired 21 shots in the second, and Garon was heroic.

    I thought Greene, Smid and Staios battled on the blue line but the other half of our defence was nowhere to be found. The game log appears to back that up; Gilbert 0 hits, 1 giveaway; Tarnstrom 0 H, 2 GV; Pitkanen 0 H, 3 GV. You’re right, Bank Shot, Joni was absolutely dreadful tonight, he had nothing. He wants $5 million a year, and tonight he wasn’t worth 5 fucking cents. I swear he never won a single battle anywhere on the ice, and lost the only one that really mattered right in front on the 1-0 goal that looked like the winner the moment it went up on the board. Skated in sand all night. A well-earned -2.

    Up front the big line had a terrible game, Penner had a few flashes early and Hemsky had one or two moments but a whole bunch of crap, bobbled pucks, mistimed passes, offsides. Horc had nuttin’.

    The kids had a couple of moments, esp. one great rush featuring excellent passes by Gagner and Nilsson to send Cogliano in, but those guys bring a collective zero to the physical game, In fact of our two “scoring” lines we have exactly one player who will ever step into anybody. Not surprisingly, Penner had the only 2 hits of the 6 of them tonight.

    It’s a sorry state of affairs when Zack Stortini plays the least of anybody, just 7:09, but his 3 hits not only lead the team but nearly equal the collective total of the rest of the forwards (4) or of the entire group of defencemen (also 4). Even Ethan Moreau threw some snow when he had a defenceman lined up dead to rights in the corner and simply turned away from him. Goddammit, men, let’s see a little fucking jam out there.

    It got so bad at one point in the third period that when one drunken guy behind me yelled “We want Stortini!” for about the 46th time, a guy in front of me piped up and yelled “Hell, even I want Stortini.” Didn’t sound like a vote of confidence for Zack so much as an indictment of the rest of this sorry crew.

    The Sharks played an effective road game, bottling up the middle of the ice, blocking shots, and intercepting countless passes. They were extremely adept at batting pucks out of the air. Individally I tried to focus on Patrick Marleau to see what has possibly gone wrong with him, but try as I might I just couldn’t notice him. He was invisible. His entire contribution in a measly 12:36 TOI (4:09 of that on the powerplay) was 1 GV and 33% in the faceoff circle, otherwise zeroes across the board. You’re right LT, he’s stealing his money. 25 points in 50 games and an astonishing -20 on a very good Sharks club, and he’s due for a raise that’ll pay him $6.3 MM for each of the next two years? Good luck dumping THAT contract.

    Always enjoy watching Mike Grier who to my eyes was the best player on the ice tonight, playing on the best line with Patrick Rissmiller and fine rookie Torrey Miller. All were +2, and all three also contributed big minutes to a PK unit that just made things look ridiculously easy. Even 4-against-5 the Sharks had far too much for the not-so-proud Oil drop tonight.

  41. CrazyCoach says:

    Actually,

    A lot of minorities, including myself watch hockey, and for many of us, the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians are the most offensive items in sports.

    However, I don’t have the time nor space to tell you why on here, but I did write a paper on the matter for a masters course once.

    If anyone is interested in it, I can email it to them.

  42. heed says:

    A lot of minorities, including myself watch hockey, and for many of us, the Washington Redskins and Cleveland Indians are the most offensive items in sports.

    i just wanted to clarify that my comments were sarcastic and i am pretty sure everyone else’s were as well. we are all pretty much in agreeance that the names along with the blackhawks are pretty offensive.

  43. Aaron Paquette says:

    circle the wagons…

  44. CrazyCoach says:

    Thank you for clarifying that Heed.

    I was surprised at Denis Savard’s remarks, and I’m sure it was an oversight on his part.

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