Oilers Pick at #22: Jordan Eberle

TSN: 29

CSB: 33NA

ISS: 30

RLR: 22

McK: 33

THN: 22

Bob McKenzie: A somewhat under-sized centre, Eberle is considered one of the smartest offensive players in the draft. He is a better goal-scorer than a playmaker and is an elusive talent when he has the puck. There are some questions about his speed, but he does have quickness, especially in tight situations and one-on-ones.

Central Scouting: Jordan is a slippery scorer with great hands. Jordan is an up-and-down the wing tease in the sense that sometimes he’ll look like he’s just going up and down the wing and you have him slotted as a checker and then he’ll cut in off the wing and use that shot to put his team up a goal.

Redline Report: Creative little center has been handling the rough going in the WHL better than we expected and is a productive offensive force every night.

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43 Responses to "Oilers Pick at #22: Jordan Eberle"

  1. andy grabia says:

    Another centre?!

  2. Lowetide says:

    Desjardins saw him good (15-11-26).

  3. Mark-Ryan says:

    FUCK YEAH!

    Smart hockey player with superficial flaws. Not big but not real small, not fast but not slow. He’s Sam Gagner only he’s a goal scorer and he did it by himself in a league with only 3 40 goal scorers and the others all had help.

    I can’t believe Lowe actually came through for me.

  4. RiversQ says:

    BPA, Grabia, fuck.

    Seems like a decent pick.

    We’re now 22 players deep and the worst I’ve heard is that Beach is kind of a dick and Sbisa is “just” a jack of all trades. It doesn’t necessarily mean anything but TSN sure buys into the depth of this draft.

  5. Lowetide says:

    All of the NHL management types look like cast members of the original Bob Newhart Show.

  6. Slipper says:

    Is an 18 year old forward locked into the position he’s played through junior?

    Point per gamer and 40 goal scorer in the WHL. That’s good enough for me.

    I thought the anxiety of not having a 2nd or 3rd rounder would send the Oil REALLY off board.

    Thank God.

  7. Lowetide says:

    And to top it off Lou looks like Bob Newhart.

  8. Tyler says:

    BPA, Grabia, fuck.

    If only Grabia had read this: this.

  9. Black Dog says:

    Good pick.

    Him or Tedenby was what I was hoping once they got past 17 or 18 and he could have had either.

  10. andy grabia says:

    If only Grabia had read this: this.

    This this? Or this this this?

    I’m fine with the pick. I just wish every player we had wasn’t a natural centre.

  11. William says:

    On his preview clip on the NHL site, Eberle was saying he was playing RW for the Pats…? I sure wouldn’t mind if he turned into Joe Mullen v2.0.

    Wonder if Lowe is going to let the draft play out now.

  12. Lowetide says:

    Colby Robak is still out there, that would be a nice bookend.

    Here’s some stuff from the NHL site on Eberle:

    NHL Director of Central Scouting, E.J. McGuire

    Strengths: “Jordan is a slippery scorer with great hands. He has NHL hands and the skating to get him into good shooting position. Jordan is an up-and-down the wing ‘tease’ in the sense that sometimes he’ll look like he’s just going up and down the wing and you have him slotted as a checker and then he’ll cut in off the wing and use that shot to put his team up by a goal.”

    Areas to improve: “He needs to improve a little bit on his consistency, in that sometimes his up and down game gets too frequent and he has to learn that all his good skills can’t be hidden – he has to use them more often.”

    Regina Pats head coach Curtis Hunt

    “He has pure skill, is a gifted scorer, and will compete in tough areas to get it done.”

    Regina Pats assistant coach Terry Perkins

    “He’s our No. 1 sniper. He’s a very gifted puck handler and has great finish around the net. I think he’s got a lot better playing both ways. He was fortunate last year to have played with older guys and this season he’s become one of the older guys. He plays in all situations because he’s learning to play better defensively and he’s still getting the points.”

  13. doritogrande says:

    I really think we stole Lou’s player.

    Why else would he trade down a second time?

  14. PunjabiOil says:

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/leagues/seasons/teams/0010042008.html

    Regina Stats.

    Eberle lead the Pats in scoring as a 17 year old with 75 points. Next closest was 20 year old Tim Kraus with 59 points.

  15. Lord Bob says:

    Not only was he the best player available at 22nd overall, I think he might have been the best player available at 12th overall.

    This kid isn’t a total liability in his own end, has his head screwed on straight, has a plus shot, and put up first-class numbers on a defensively-oriented hockey club in a defensively-oriented hockey league playing with absolutely nobody. Seriously, offensively, the 2007-08 Regina Pats were Eberle and A Bunch Of Guys You Could Beat In A Pickup Game.

    Additionally, Eberle seems ripe for a move to the wing. Having a playmaker at centre makes sense: he has to be able to distribute the puck. Similarly, a defensive forward at centre anchors the top three in their own zone. Eberle is neither of these things. He’s a pure sniper, and pure snipers have always worked on the wing.

    Yes. Yes yes yes.

  16. Knamely Lacked says:

    Damn, I wanted Tedenby and he was available, but like many predicted they went with Eberle.

    Can’t say I am surprised, nor can I say it’s a bad pick.

    Now where the hell are those second round picks Lowe? Can rule out Phoenix as a partner as they traded theirs to Anaheim. What are the chances Lowe gives Burke a call…

  17. Lowetide says:

    He certainly is a nice pick and follows a recent (post-CBA) pattern for the Oilers in the first round:

    1. centers
    2. undersized
    3. skilled
    4. smart

    With Cogliano and Gagner being the first two examples.

    If all follows according to play they’ll trade for a second rounder and use it on a D.

    BUT the Coke Machines will arrive tomorrow too, so maybe they grab one with the pick they get in what I’ll call the Schrempouliot deal.

  18. Mark-Ryan says:

    Talking to a couple people who watched Regina last year (and apparently he identified himself as one) — Eberle is, and has been for a little bit, a RW not a C.

  19. Bruce says:

    Hard to be unhappy with that pick. Eberle looked good in the prospects event(s) and I saw him pretty good one night when the Pats came to town.

    Meanwhile the #12 pick that we could have lost to Buffalo for Vanek winds up going to …. Buffalo? Whatever, it ain’t the Ducks.

    But … Burke doubles down from #12 to #17 and #28, and then doubles down again from #28 to #35 and #39. Most of the other trades of picks seemed to involve late second rounders and lower. But Burkie winds up with five picks for Penner. FIVE assets!!!

  20. Lowetide says:

    Mark Ryan: Good stuff. Oilers needed a sniper and based on the C’s of the future this guy is headed for RW anyway.

  21. Dennis says:

    Given the picks of first Cogs and Gags and the ensuing success of both, it was no surprise that the Oilers went small again.

    I just got in the house in time to see Eberle being interviewed and glowing about being taken by his favorite team and then later Dreger said the Oilers are likely to make a trade tomorrow.

    We heard so much about Tanguay to Mtl and that happened and now Cole for Pitkanen seems to be next, no?

  22. Dennis says:

    Bruce: Nice:)

  23. PDO says:

    Dennis:

    I sure fucking hope not. Cole is a solid player, NO DOUBT in my mind he could help this team and would fit in fantastically.

    And while the Norris doesn’t mean what it should, and by that I mean that a guy like Phaneuf was 2nd in voting this year, Pitkanen is a guy who can win it.

    By the way the team has been talking, it sounds more likely that we send Raffi and Bobby Smid out to Toronto for Steen.

    I’m not much of a Bobby Smid guy, but if we’re doing that trade I’d almost expect Toronto to include their 1st in ’09.

  24. PDO says:

    Bruce:

    And what are the chances of any one of those 5 assets being better than Penner at this point? 20%, at best?

    I’m digging those odds.

  25. Lowetide says:

    I think Lowe trades a young forward tomorrow (best case Schremp, worst case Pouliot).

    Stauffer mentioned the Steen trade on his show and Ruutu was also mentioned. If two more players are coming in (or even one more) then some of those Oiler draft picks up front are heading out of town.

  26. andy grabia says:

    Eberle is, and has been for a little bit, a RW not a C.

    Cool. Thanks for that. Now hopefully I can escape the wrath of Cam and Tyler. :)

  27. Sean says:

    Good pick based on what I’ve read.

    I like the scoutings staff focus on smart players recently. You can work on your skating and improve your shoot but you really cant teach smarts – Shawn Horcoff is the best example of that I can. Now go sign him!

    If only you could teach size …

  28. PunjabiOil says:

    You know who put up 56 goals and 106 points in his draft year?

    Joffrey Lupul

  29. Bruce says:

    And what are the chances of any one of those 5 assets being better than Penner at this point? 20%, at best?

    Jake Gardiner, three second rounders and a third rounder? Doesn’t sound too scary at this point. Not sure I buy 20%, but I think it’s better than even money the Oilers got the best player in the deal(s).

    But in terms of the first rounder we gave up, it’s not Gardiner, but Myers. He’ll be an interesting guy to track.

    And all that said, there’s no telling who the Oilers might have chosen had they retained the pick, and no telling where they would have finished without Penner in the line-up this past season. So the compensation is a guessing game no matter what, and the only thing that really matters is how Penner performs.

  30. PDO says:

    PJO:

    The difference?

    Lupul is a pussy.

  31. Lowetide says:

    I hate to say this since the fuss made by me is on this blog somewhere, but the Penner signing turned out better than expected.

    Look, I know they gave up three picks (approx 12,42,72) and there’s every chance that one or two of them are going to be NHL players. However, Penner is a useful player who might end up being more than that PLUS he’s part of the Hemsky cluster gained in exchange for money and a distant future.

    If it had been a top 6 pick, say Schenn through one, I’d have yelled bloody murder.

    As it is, Penner is an NHL player in the middle of the Hemsky cluster. The move had some logic to it and all is not lost after all.

    Ahem.

    The difference between this kid and Lupul is twofold imo: Lupul has more talent and this kid appears more willing.

    We’ll see. Lupul was a high, high pick his draft year so the expectations were certainly higher and the talent is still there.

    This is going to sound like a homer statement, but one of the big differences between the two is that MacT may end up being Eberle’s first NHL coach.

    He’s going to learn how to play the game and do little things like get the puck out over the line on the far right hand side when Steve Staios rips it around.

  32. RiversQ says:

    He’s going to learn how to play the game and do little things like get the puck out over the line on the far right hand side when Steve Staios rips it around.

    Tee hee

  33. Slipper says:

    I think that if it’s valid to evaluate a deal based on how the dice ultimately rolled, then it’s equally valid to consider the other possible outcomes.

    Just to be fair, when he made the offer to Penner, Lowe had no idea or control over the number of extra time points his team was going to be involved in the following season, or whether Neidermyer and Selanne were going to play only half of the next season.

    He did know that his team finished 6th last and that the Ducks just won the cup.

    Had a few outliers rolled the other way, then we’re sitting here talking about Burke picking 5th-8th and Edmonton drafting 26th-30th.

    But this plane crash resulted in a much softer landing than expected, so Kevin didn’t too bad, right?

  34. Lowetide says:

    Slipper: Yes. But also Penner’s a better player than I thought he’d be, or at least he has the talent to be something very useful.

  35. Bruce says:

    Had a few outliers rolled the other way, then we’re sitting here talking about Burke picking 5th-8th and Edmonton drafting 26th-30th.

    Yeah, if the Ducks hadn’t made the finals last year, the Oilers wouldn’t have had a pick at all. So even though it sucked balls that Anaheim won the Cup, at least the Pronger deal had a rider in it that turned out to be Eberle.

    In other words, Lowe coulda fucked it up worse, too.

  36. Doogie says:

    Meanwhile the #12 pick that we could have lost to Buffalo for Vanek winds up going to …. Buffalo? Whatever, it ain’t the Ducks.

    I totally forgot about that. Good call.

  37. Alice says:

    Interesting that Burke took Gardiner at 17, and not the next Bertuzzi. He made moves to get extra picks in the “long” draft, and looks like he listened to his scouts on the actual selection. He might be a first-class mouth, but he’s getting it done here, no question.

  38. Lowetide says:

    Alice: Good points all.

    I liked Kevin Prendergast’s line on Eberle: “you can’t teach finish.”

    Amen.

  39. Lord Bob says:

    Chris Pronger for Ladislav Smid, half of Joni Pitkanen, Jordan Eberle, Riley Nash, and a couple of other guys.

    Get back to me in five years, but… god damn me for saying it… that doesn’t look too bad. A loss. But not Weight-for-a-German-and-a-fourth-liner bad.

  40. Colby Cosh says:

    Well, four years of Pronger at what now looks like a pretty steep discount, so the real cost is “Pronger plus the cap space.”

    If I’ve got this straight from the last few days, you can’t teach finish, you can’t teach meanness, you can’t teach smarts, you can’t teach size, and you can’t teach speed. Maybe we could save some money and play this game without coaches?

  41. Lowetide says:

    CC: I think what it really shows is that when you sign a player to an offer sheet and lose your first, second and third rd picks in a deep draft the reality of ground lost is a bitter pill.

    Over two days.

    Still, it could have been worse. Luke Schenn isn’t a Duck.

  42. uni says:

    You think we could have gotten a Camalleri or a Tanguay with that a 12th overall pick?

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