Bad Timing, That’s All

Over the past few days we’ve talked about the Oilers young forwards who are knocking at the NHL door. We’ve talked about Bryan Lerg, Marc Pouliot, JF Jacques and Liam Reddox. We’ve also talked about the possibility that Marty Reasoner could come back for another season to act as a bridge between experience and youth and to pick up some of the Stoll faceoff slack.

For most of these guys there are openings at the end of the roster to fight over. Kyle Brodziak and Marc Pouliot may both make the hockey club, but sooner or later one of them will emerge as the go-to guy in a two-way role. JF Jacques may or may not pass Zack Stortini someday but there is a job available for one of them.

For Rob Schremp, it’s a different story. There is little doubt he’s the number one minor leaguer, the top option after all the guys with one-way contracts.

The problem is that the role he plays is not really suitable for the roles available on the team. Schremp’s spot in the batting order is occupied by players who are younger and better (Cogliano, Gagner) or slightly older and more proven (Nilsson).

It’s a spot of bother and I don’t know that there is an answer outside of trading him. Let’s start by listing the roles he can play: powerplay quarterback, skill forward. Okay, let’s list all of the players on the roster who can cover that job description: Ales Hemsky, Sam Gagner, Robert Nilsson, Dustin Penner, Andrew Cogliano, Shawn Horcoff. I know what you’re saying, that’s not really fair you’re just listing all the best forwards. Actually, no. Erik Cole isn’t on that list, nor is Fernando Pisani. The Oilers are actually really deep in skill forwards. Some of them (like Horcoff) can do other things but bottom line is that they’re doing good things. Here, let’s list the top 15 forwards in the NW division in terms of EV points 5×5 in 07-08:

  1. Paul Stastny 3.12
  2. Jarome Iginla 2.85
  3. Marian Gaborik 2.77
  4. Shawn Horcoff 2.59
  5. Marek Svatos 2.59
  6. Andrew Brunette 2.56
  7. Wojtek Wolski 2.54
  8. Robert Nilsson 2.37
  9. Ales Hemsky 2.36
  10. Pavol Demitra 2.34
  11. Andrew Cogliano 2.28
  12. Jaroslav Hlinka 2.28
  13. Alex Tanguay 2.21
  14. Milan Hejduk 2.18
  15. Henrik Sedin 2.16

Sam Gagner and Dustin Penner don’t make the list, but I think we can agree that they are unlikely to be sent out based on their performance in this category. Rob Schremp isn’t going to replace any of the players in bold, he isn’t going to replace Gagner, Penner or the newly acquired Erik Cole.

Let’s do 5×4 in the NW divison:

  1. Ales Hemsky 5.93
  2. Marian Gaborik 5.46
  3. Jarome Iginla 5.37
  4. Daniel Sedin 4.87
  5. PM Bouchard 4.79
  6. Henrik Sedin 4.68
  7. Brian Rolston 4.64
  8. Mikko Koivu 4.37
  9. Paul Stastny 4.33
  10. Kristian Huselius 4.28
  11. Daymond Langkow 4.12
  12. Dustin Penner 4.07
  13. Markus Naslund 4.05
  14. Shawn Horcoff 4.00
  15. Sam Gagner 3.88

Keeping in mind the Oilers have added Erik Cole, where exactly does Rob Schremp fit on the list of players who can do things with the puck? It’s no sin, hell Ales Hemsky is a wonderful hockey player. And if Sam Gagner were 25 years old then his position might be available. But he isn’t, and it’s not.

I’m reading a lot of posts here and there about Schremp playing a 4th line role but is that reasonable? I don’t think so based on MacT’s preferred roster makeup and the sheer number of one dimensional players already in the top 6. Schremp has put in the work this off-season to make him stronger, but how often does that one thing make a perimeter player brave in the tough areas? After years and three organizations tried, Otis Nixon was still hitting line drives when anything on the ground meant a single (he was a bullet).

No sir. Rob Schremp needs to get lucky with a hot camp, with an injury, with someone above in bold not working out this summer. Despite being bona fide as an NHL prospect, there’s just no room. He may make the roster as a 13th forward, but Ryan Potulny has no waiver wiggle room and the Oilers may choose him over the kid from Syracuse.

At the back of the roster, teams often choose players who can play shortstop and second base, maybe catch in a pinch and steal a base now and then. Or a catcher who can play first base, pinch hit and played third base one time in Campeche.

Rob Schremp is none of those.

What happened from draft day 2004 to now for Rob Schremp? Bad Timing, that’s all. Rob Schremp is, finally, Rob Nelson. On Tuesday, April 4, 1987, Rob Nelson was the opening day starter at first base for the A’s. He played 7 games before getting sent out and by that September was in San Diego. What the hell happened to Rob Nelson’s career in Oakland? Sam Gagner.

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53 Responses to "Bad Timing, That’s All"

  1. Dennis says:

    It looks like this guy should’ve been dealt for a 2nd rounder at this year’s draft; otherwise, maybe you deal him for a rental at the deadline.

  2. grease trap says:

    He’s insurance right now, and damned good insurance at that. I don’t see him going anywhere until trade deadline.

  3. danny says:

    I’m not sure this is a great comp, but I remember back in the mid nineties when Pavol Demitra was creating some buzz as a skilled guy on the Sens AHL roster. He was getting some ink, and the media were questioning why he was being shunned by the lowly Sens.

    Their numbers are very similar through the first two pro seasons, and the 3rd season is where Demitra kicked the snot out of the AHL… ( did he turn his back on OTT that offseason and opt to go to the IHL? or did they give up on him?)

    Anyways, OTT traded him to the blues for some guy that left to play in europe… a pretty monumental mistake for what seems to be because of a turbulent player/management relationship.

    Theres a lot more to risk by not letting him atleast play 45 games in the AHL this season IMO. His off-ice training, and another candle in the birthday cake are indicators that he will be better this season.

  4. Traktor says:

    “The problem is that the role he plays is not really suitable for the roles available on the team.”

    Yet when Horcoff goes down we call up Reasoner.

    Dealing Schremp doesn’t make much sense at this point. A better plan would be to deal Nilsson+ for a young but experienced shutdown and then giving Schremp his minutes.

  5. Lowetide says:

    Danny: I do agree that the Oilers won’t get full price if they sell him now. Problem is, do you wish for an injury/slump? I think the worst thing that could happen to him is he plays just well enough to make the team but not the starting 12.

    That’s a horrible slot on a MacT club.

  6. Lowetide says:

    Traktor: Agree with that too. Nilsson is the guy to go, but I don’t think they’ll send him away. MacT has his favorites too.

  7. Traktor says:

    ^^^

    Shutdown D

  8. danny says:

    Yeah its hard to say… it almost seems better for sugartits if he plays his 45 AHL games, makes a statement and then waits for the injury or trade…

    MacTs ‘final 4′ have developed some quality players, but nothing in the mold of what Schremp needs to become. I think they would just irritate each other, and sugartits trade value drops off the map.

    Best case scenario IMO, he gets a shot at burning up the AHL, and establishes an NHL job that way. bypass MacTs ‘final 4′ altogether. Its not his gig.

  9. andy grabia says:

    Nice Blue Rodeo reference, LT.

  10. Lowetide says:

    I think Schremp might end up going to a team with Roloson. Salary dump plus a blocked prospect for something good.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Andy: Love Blue Rodeo. Everyone bitches and moans about the Hip not getting their due and fricking Blue Rodeo writes gems all over hell’s half acre for two decades and are still creeping up to John Prine territory in terms of audience.

    People are dumb.

  12. Traktor says:

    Salary dump for who?? Nothing on the UFA market is there?

  13. Lowetide says:

    For when we sign Palffy. :-)

  14. Traktor says:

    I’ll only take Palffy if he comes with Allison.

  15. Jonathan says:

    Their numbers are very similar through the first two pro seasons, and the 3rd season is where Demitra kicked the snot out of the AHL… ( did he turn his back on OTT that offseason and opt to go to the IHL? or did they give up on him?)

    Although, if we’re comparing the numbers, Demitra was averaging 1pts/game in his first season at the AHL level, while Rob Schremp has yet to do it. I’m not saying, I’m just saying.

    Traktor: Agree with that too. Nilsson is the guy to go, but I don’t think they’ll send him away. MacT has his favorites too.

    I could agree, but Nilsson’s contract is going to be one of if not the best bargain on the Oilers for the next three years.

    Andy: Love Blue Rodeo. Everyone bitches and moans about the Hip not getting their due and fricking Blue Rodeo writes gems all over hell’s half acre for two decades and are still creeping up to John Prine territory in terms of audience.

    People are dumb.

    It’s so nice when everyone’s on the same page ;)

  16. Oilman says:

    I remember watching Schremp in his first camp in a pre season game and he’s one of those players that causes the crowd to buzz a little every time he touches the puck. You knew when the puck was on his stick, something was going to happen….just turns out that a lot of the happenings are negatives – but he’s an exciting player to watch. He’d be the perfect player to package to a southern hockey market – because he causes some buzz and they wouldn’t often notice the negatives. And just to give an example of what a southern market is truly like – I lived in Mobile Alabama for a year and got to see the ECHL Mobile Mystics play on a regular basis, often going to games with the same three or four people (who BTW could tell you the name of the starting tailback on every high school football team in the county)…at about my 5th or 6th Mystics games, about 10 minutes into the 1st period, one of the guys I’m there with taps me on the shoulder and says “we’re the ones in White right?” – he’d love Robbie Schremp.
    Schremp’s contract ends after this season no? Is he a guy that’ll be content to sign a 2-way deal or will he be off earning tax free dollars in Russia?

  17. Lowetide says:

    I’d suspect Schremp would have a hard time taking a two-way deal on the second contract. This is probably the year for him to establish himself or move on down the line.

  18. Oilman says:

    Whether his in the Oilers plans or not, it’d be good for the Oilers if he’s leading the AHL in scoring around the all-star break;o)

  19. PDO says:

    Traktor who is a team that would part with a D worth talking about for Nilsson though?

    In my mind the guy that we want/need is Komisarek. Problem being, he’s a UFA at the end of the season.

    IF he would sign an extension on a trade here though, Nilsson and which D would it take to get him? Does Nilsson and Smid get Komisarek? Is that a smart trade for the Oilers to make? Would Komisarek sign here for a less than ridiculous number?

    It’s sad, because everyone here knows we need another D, but we already have 7 guys on one-way deals… and outside of Roy, there’s not a single guy who should be slotted in the #7 spot to begin the season.

    That damn Souray contract…..

  20. dstaples says:

    Nilsson gets no love from so many of you guys.

    But I recall MacT saying Nilsson was one of the best forwards on the Oil during their season-ending hot streak.

    And I recall Nilsson actually being as good as MacT said, a player who finally figured it out, how to produce consistently by charging forward with the puck when he had it, then charging back (maybe not quite as hard) when he didn’t.

    No way should the Oil trade Nilsson, IMO.

    This team has a young core group, guys who should stay together, become friends, become teammates, maybe even be willing to take the so-called hometown discount, a.k.a Detroit discount to stay here one day.

    Isn’t this what the Wings have done with their young stars? When Datsyuk struggled in playoffs past he wasn’t dealt away to make room for Jason Williams, you know what I mean?

    So let’s keep Nilsson, see where him, Cogs, Hemsky and Gagner can take this team, with the help of Penner/Cole and maybe Horcoff, if he is willing to be reasonable in his contract.

    That’s the five year plan, the one with the best chance of paying of in playoff success (and a new arena).

    As for Schremp, he can be the Klima in this group, a third/fourth line guy who adds some scoring, or he can be the Habscheid and just get traded away to see how he does elsewhere.

  21. Lowetide says:

    David Staples: When I said Nilsson was the guy to trade, I meant among this group. If he plays his entire contract here I’m thrilled.

    In fact, the entire point of my post was the there was no room, Nilsson is part of that.

    IF the Oilers were going to make a move, however, Nilsson is the guy.

    Just saying. It’s a talented group.

  22. Traktor says:

    Komisarek would be perfect but Montreal has great young team and no real reason to make a big deal after the season they had last year.

    I was thinking Volchenkov, who would is just as valuable to the Sens as Komisarek is to Montreal but Ottawa might have a couple reasons to move him.

    They have no depth at all and they have nobody in the pipeline. They don’t have any offensive D besides Meszaros who took a step back last year and rookie Brian Lee. They didn’t replace Redden and they lost out on Boyle and Pitkanen.I really can’t see them trading assets for a 39 year old Schneider considering their depth problems. They don’t have much depth on their 3rd and 4th forward lines either and if the big 3 aren’t going then the Sens aren’t going.

    I think Grebeshkov, Nilsson, Chorney, Brule, Schremp would all be of interest to Ottawa.

  23. Traktor says:

    Is Ottawa better with Grebeshkov and Nilsson or with Volcehenkov?

    Is Edmonoton better with Nilsson and Grebs or with Volchenkov and Schremp taking Nilsson’s minutes?

    I’m sure Chorney will be ready after 40 or so AHL games if we need a puck mover to replace Grebs.

  24. Coach pb9617 says:

    He’s insurance right now, and damned good insurance at that.

    Based on?

    better plan would be to deal Nilsson+ for a young but experienced shutdown and then giving Schremp his minutes.

    Trade away the proven commodity with the beauty contract for the unproven commodity with no work ethic until May of this year?

    Sugartits makes people lose their minds.

  25. Coach pb9617 says:

    That’s the five year plan, the one with the best chance of paying of in playoff success (and a new arena).

    Yes. dstaples for president!

  26. PDO says:

    I’d be loathe to trade Grebeshkov. Even with Volchenkov coming back.

    After his second half, I’m convinced that Hemsky and Gagner are the only guys with more raw talent than him on the roster.

  27. Jonathan says:

    I’d be loathe to trade Grebeshkov. Even with Volchenkov coming back.

    I really like Grebeshkov, but his 1yr/1.5M contract and his talk of maybe returning to Russia have me very, very leery of his long-term role with the team.

  28. Traktor says:

    “Trade away the proven commodity with the beauty contract for the unproven commodity with no work ethic until May of this year?”

    It doesn’t even have to be Schremp. It could mean 1 of Cogliano, Penner or Cole doesn’t have to play on the third line anymore.

    You’re dealing from a position of strength to fill a glaring hole. What’s the problem?

  29. Black Dog says:

    Good post LT and its the salient point of course.

    Schremp has had a whack of bad luck.

    Year one – no openings at all in the top nine, of course he’s nowhere near ready

    Year two – a pile of openings but he comes in hurt, still not completely ready, and gets passed by Nilsson, Cogliano and Gagner.

    This year – no spots again

    He needs to have a screaming camp and for one of the top six to get hurt early.

    Likely he’s going to get moved out after a nice year in Springfield.

  30. PDO says:

    Jon:

    I think if he was going back to Russia, he’d already be there. Why stay here for one year and $1,500,000 when he could likely make more in the continental league and be at home?

    My bet is he thinks he can get the Gilbert Gilbert deal.

  31. Coach pb9617 says:

    You’re dealing from a position of strength to fill a glaring hole. What’s the problem?

    If sugartits is ready to take on Nilsson’s minutes, why not trade sugartits+? If he’s so valuable, make him the chip, not the even money favorite to outperform over the next three years.

  32. David says:

    My good fellows,

    Where do you get the EV stats? I would love to take a look at the entire division.

    Many thanks.

  33. Traktor says:

    “If sugartits is ready to take on Nilsson’s minutes, why not trade sugartits”

    Because Schremp doesn’t have close to the value league wide that Nilsson does.

    Great, you deal Schremp for a 2nd, how does that help the team?

  34. Jonathan says:

    Where do you get the EV stats? I would love to take a look at the entire division.

    Behind the Net.

  35. namflashback says:

    traktor,

    because we had to endure a soft start by Nillson last year (recall an incredibly lazy back check that allowed the enormously speedy Doug Weight to come in and score).

    then we saw the Nilsson who gets it. Madly skating back, stretching out through center ice to break up a transition by the opposition.

    Nilsson has proved more at the AHL level, has proved more at the NHL level. No shame in keeping the better player too.

    Making the right choice on the player in a particular role is as important management of assets as turning them over for value is.

    Creating a funnel of good quality players is the job of player procurement and minor league development. That’s good asset management of the pipeline.

    Choosing the best players for particular roles at any given time is the most important asset management for the big team.

    If you want to make 08-09 another “development year” and sacrifice a playoff berth — that isn’t good return.

    Barring injury, Nilsson is the better player now.

  36. Mark-Ryan says:

    I trade Cogliano before I deal Nilsson. Nilsson is the better player now and I think their upsides are pretty similar.

    The mere idea of giving Schremp, who is better at literally no aspect of the game, Nilsson’s minutes makes my physically ill.

    Then again, maybe I’m just a huge Nilsson mark.

  37. NotLeeFogolin says:

    Pure speculation here, but Cole and Horcoff are both UFA next season. The team has said publicly that it won’t try to extend Cole yet, and we haven’t heard anything about Horcoff.

    Maybe they’re anticipating having a couple of top-6 holes to fill next season? In that case, having a guy like Schremp in the wings would be rather useful imo.

  38. Asiaoil says:

    Tractor – you do remember that a lot of OTT fans would have been happy to trade Tank for a good draft pick 2 years ago, and that Komisarek was considered a big dummy at about the same time. Why trade an asset like Schremp and Smid for a guy that Smid has a good chance in becoming in 2 years? Gotta be patient with young shut-down dmen because elite defense takes mo.

    As for Schremp – too bad ATL has the Russian and nothing else because Schremp is perfect for that roster and Roloson would be a good companion for cap purposes. Maybe later in the year.

  39. David says:

    The reality of this team is the reality that the coach creates. Schremp will make this team, and he will make it because I think MacTavish has come to realize, though I don’t know when, that’s it’s far easier to teach a skill player how to play defence than a defensive player how to score 60+ points.

    Keep in mind that he was asked about adding a third or fourth line checker, to add toughness, and without prompting, he brought up all the good things he was hearing about Schremp. This shows a man who already has Schremp as one of his front runners for a roster spot. Schremp needs a good camp, not a great one, to make this team, IMO.

    And are we absolutely sure that Cogliano is not better suited to a third line role with powerplay and penalty kill time? Schremp might be a better pure second line option, a guy with hands who can absolutely kill the other team’s second best defensive option. You might be looking at a team that, long-term, has Schremp-Horcoff-Nilsson as its second line, and Penner-Gagner-Hemsky as its first, with Cogliano centering the third.

    We shall see.

  40. andy grabia says:

    Schremp will make this team, and he will make it because I think MacTavish has come to realize, though I don’t know when, that’s it’s far easier to teach a skill player how to play defence than a defensive player how to score 60+ points.

    Hmm. Damn interesting point. Is it true, though? It sure looked like he let go of the reins at the end of last year, but will it be the same again this year? I don’t know. He is what he is. How much can a guy change his nature?

  41. Jonathan says:

    Schremp might be a better pure second line option, a guy with hands who can absolutely kill the other team’s second best defensive option.

    …except that I’d be willing to put heavy money on Schremp not being able to outscore any NHL defensive option in his first year in the league.

  42. Ducey says:

    “it’s far easier to teach a skill player how to play defence than a defensive player how to score 60+ points.”

    2 points:
    1)Just because its easier doesn’t mean its easy;
    2)One can learn to play defence in the AHL – this is where RS will find himself until he proves he has learned to do it.

  43. Sean says:

    The reality of this team is the reality that the coach creates. Schremp will make this team, and he will make it because I think MacTavish has come to realize, though I don’t know when, that’s it’s far easier to teach a skill player how to play defence than a defensive player how to score 60+ points.

    Beauty comment.

    Reminds me of a Gretzky quote along the lines of “the only thing better than beats a hard working team is a skilled hard working team.”

    I’m a big Nilsson fan and dont like trading him but it does make you wonder how much he’d be worth if the Oilers tried to trade him. His contract increases his value for sure but he wont be outperforming unless you trade him next year ;)

    Schremp does have bad luck. This is his year and the Oilers don’t have much room.

  44. Sean says:

    Ducey: Its not easy but I dont even think it up to the coach. Like Nilsson last year, RS will soon realize he needs to play D in order to make the show. Flying around first class making millions is a lot better than making 100k riding bus (I’d still do it). Your right, until then, RS will be a great AHL player.

  45. Dennis says:

    12 could be an easy guy to move; we don’t know if teams believe in him like the Oilers do but if that’s the case, he’s going to be very affordable for the next three years and that should have some significant truck on the trade market.

    It would be hard to turn down a trade that had 12 going for a top four EV defender that would allow us to dump Souray but is Nilsson that recognizable around the league as to warrant such a return? And you’d have to think that given his sublime playmaking abilities and his late season penchant for caring and battling, we’re trading away a real bird in the hand and then we’re going back to the bushes hoping that Schremp can take the same turn.

    If everything could fall at the same time — Souray’s moved and his pact’s off the books and we get a real top four guy in for Nilsson — then I’d be cool with replacing 12 with Schremp and replacing Souray with this new guy — but I’m not convinced such a trade’s even realistic and I’d bet we’re all taking for granted the difference 12 made to that kid line’s success.

    Sure, if you had money to bet, you’d take 13-89 as possessing the best two futures of the contents of the kid line — and maybe I answered my own question right there;) — but, still, it looks like we’ve made Nilsson turn a corner so the dman coming back had better be real.

    So, if we’re looking at the way Lowe deals — which the same few teams — then could we deal 12 plus for Klesla? I don’t think the Jackets would give up on him, do you?

    The other is Lowe goes back to Stl and brings back Brew; but with Eric giving us a ~4 mill caphit, is that even worth looking at?

    Anyone else have any suggestions? We’re trading hitting for pitching so we need to target a team that can’t develop it’s own offensive prospects and has D to trade away.

  46. Doogie2K says:

    The team has said publicly that it won’t try to extend Cole yet, and we haven’t heard anything about Horcoff.

    Actually, I’m pretty sure someone (Lowe?) said that as soon as all the UFA stuff was through, they were going to work on Horcoff. So probably later this summer/this fall.

  47. IceDragoon says:

    pdo: I’d be loathe to trade Grebeshkov. Even with Volchenkov coming back.

    After his second half, I’m convinced that Hemsky and Gagner are the only guys with more raw talent than him on the roster.

    I’d add Nilsson to the list, as well.

    Visnovsky is going to be great for Grebeshkov, sponge that he is.

  48. Dennis says:

    It’s been awhile since I spoke about this but just how solid is 37′s NHL future if the new Russia super league is after him already? Did he just sign a one year deal with the Oilers because he’s thinking of leaving after this season or was it just posturing for a bigger deal come the 2010 season?

    Anyway, not sure if the cap’s gonna go up again next summer but I doubt we cna pay one more guy close to 3 mill without having to get rid or buy out souray.

  49. PDO says:

    Dennis:

    Next year we have Roloson off the books (should open up ~$2,500,000 cap) as well as Cole (~$4,000,000).

    The cap will go up at least a bit (inflation), so the Oilers who already have $4,000,000 space will have nearly $10,000,000 to cover Horcoff’s raise ($2,000,000), Grebeshkov’s raise ($3,000,000) and Garon’s raise ($2,000,000).

    And still have cap space.

  50. David says:

    “…except that I’d be willing to put heavy money on Schremp not being able to outscore any NHL defensive option in his first year in the league.”

    Schremp has the tools to do so at the NHL level, now that he’s getting himself into good NHL conditioning. I doubt that he’ll do so consistently, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him have a season somewhat like Nilsson’s was last year. Inconsistent but a force offensively at times, with growing consistency towards the end of the year.

    Don’t throw the kid to the wolves (I definitely don’t want to see him against top defensive pairing at all), but I think he can do some nice things this year against the other team’s B team.

  51. Dennis says:

    It will always come back to the fact that his skills and abilites are replicated by the 12-13-89 troika.

    If Schremp was bigger and/or showed any penchant for the battle, he could force 51 or 78 to the sidelines.

    But, that doesn’t appear to be the case and outside of trades/injuries, it’s gonna be hard for him to earn a spot even if he’s much bigger and stronger.

  52. Black Dog says:

    the other thing now is that how much is Grebs going to get going to the RSL – not like he’s a recognizable name who is going to sell tickets

    if he earns a good deal I think he does better in the NHL

  53. Chris says:

    I’m not entirely sure what will become of Shremp. He did well enough in the AHL that theoretically he deserves a shot at the NHL. However, I tend to agree with Lowetide that it would be a philosophical break from MacT’s coaching past to have a 4th line that was anything but grinders/energy guys. Ideally the 4the 4th line would give a few of the up and comers a shot to get acclimatized to see if they were able to handle the speed of the game.

    However, as it stands if Shremp makes the team I can only really foresee two possibilities of that happening out of camp. The first one is Shremp comes after a great deal of off season training, his defense is somewhat improved, and consquently plays himself onto the team forcing a trade or Cogliano being bumped down onto the third line. It was mentioned earlier that Cogliano could hypothetically wind up on the third line and as thought experiements go it might be interesting to see Shremp on a line with Gagner and Nilson. Shremp and Nilson played well together and both Gagner and Shremp flourished under the same junior program.

    The only other possibility I see is someone else gets injured or traded for some reason openning up a spot right off the bat.

    I’m not one of the HF fans of the guy, but Shremp does have some skills that understandably make people want him to pan out. I know LT is all about his baseball analogies (honestly I rarely follow them, I think its a generational gap) but I’m going to resort to UFC analogy. Shremp reminds me of a guy with top notch striking capability which is offensive and exciting and also very much a good skill to possess. At lower levels of competition this allowed him to dominate and his ground game or in our case defense were passible enough for him to get by. However, at the next level being really good at one thing isn’t good enough, the guy’s needed to work on bringing the rest of his game up to par or he’ll get exposed.

    However, the knock out potention (offense) still keeps people interested and wanting to see the guy put it all together. Whether he will or not remains to be seen

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