Once again reaffirming that life is short, precious, and so unpredictable. A reminder that we should be thankful for every day we get to spend with loved ones.
Directly from one of the posters on my hockey forum: nhltopshelf.com
EDIT 2: “In the 18th minute of the third period of Avangard Omsk’s game against Chekhov Vityaz, Cherepanov collided with Jaromir Jagr during a line change. Once Cherepanov got to the bench, he collapsed, and team doctors determined that his heart had stopped and immediately began attempts to revive him.”
The KHL's news release, translated partially by Babel Fish, partially by me eyeballing it and fixing the computer's stilted nonsense (I'm not digging out my dictionary and spending two hours on it myself):
Last night, during the Continental Hockey League tournament match between Vityaz Chekhov and Avangard Omsk, the heart of Avangard forward Alexei Cherapanov stopped. Alexei was ambulanced to the Chekhov city hospital; unfortunately, despite the doctors' efforts, the 19-year-old hockey player's life could not be saved.
Police have begun investigating the cause of Cherepanov's death. The KHL expresses sincere condolences to Cherepanov's family and friends, and guarantees full disclosure regarding [the motion of the checking]. <- I'm not sure about this last bit, if it means the collision with Jagr or the police investigation.
Doogie: I imagine it has to do with the ambulance leaving early and the lack of “working equipment” that were reported earlier.
For a 19-year old kid to die is tragic enough, but if there’s even a small sense of not having the best available equipment then we really need to look at this closely.
And I don’t want any “well it’s Russia crap” either. Mike Modano was DROPPED several times by emergency workers as they were putting him into an ambulance many years ago. Stupidity doesn’t have borders.
Also, I know it’s just after this event happened but I’d really like to know why this is happening (Zholtok, Fischer). Are they training differently? Steroids?
I know it’s right after the event, but dammit this is ridiculous.
One thing that comes to mind is that, if the rumours of Jagr accidentally hitting Cherepanov in the chest are true, there is a condition called commotio cordis that can be caused by a firm impact to the chest. The young are more vulnerable as well.
If Cherepanov did end up with commotio cordis, he was probably already as good as dead before anybody quite realised what was happening. A working defibrillator might have saved him, but…
I imagine it has to do with the ambulance leaving early and the lack of “working equipment” that were reported earlier.
Makes sense. Brings me back to my previous question, about who was responsible for those orders and that maintenance.
Also, I know it’s just after this event happened but I’d really like to know why this is happening (Zholtok, Fischer). Are they training differently? Steroids?
Remember Mickey Renaud? He was a Flames prospect with the Windsor Spitfires, who died of a congentive heart defect last season. Could just as easily be that.
However, if true, isn’t that something that would preclude him from playing?
Not necessarily. I don’t think they found anything on Renaud pre-mortem, either. Some heart defects can be extremely difficult to spot and diagnose, especially in a still-developing teenaged body.
Heard on the radio this morning that he had a pre-existing condition (sorry can’t remember the medical name of it) whereby his internal organs, including his heart, did not receive adequate blood supply. From Pierre McGuire during a call in to the Fan 960.
Tragic.
Is it possible that this was known to upper levels of hockey management, and did it contribute to his ‘low’ draft position?
If the reports about the lack of proper medical apparati are true, this is going to be a real hit to the credibility of the KHL. I have to wonder if the likes of Jagr, Markkanen, Radulov are re-considering their move to Russia right now.
Tragic news. I’m certain it’s going to scare players away from Russia and back to North America. In a sick, twisted way the NHL is better for him dying.
I do want to express that by no way am I saying his death is a good thing. Cherepanov, Bourdon and Renaud should have had long productive careers and have been taken from us way too soon.
They showed a youtube video from the Russian arena on TSN before the Flames/Avs game today. The first thing that came to mind was:
What.The.Fuck.
It was chaos. Players standing around looking on but doing seemingly nothing to help. Didn’t look like there was even a competent trainer present. Then the players carried(Fuck!) him off the bench. No stretcher to be seen to evenly support his weight. Arms, legs, neck(Fuck!) hanging limply as two or three players rushed him off the scene.
I wouldn’t wish that kind of desecration on my enemies. There had better be answers.
Perhaps the smoking gun that determines the distinction between a good league and a bad league, not that I want it to boil down to hockey-related politics.
What’s up with the medical standards in the KHL, anyway?
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Unbelievable. Just unbelievable.
RIP. Too young.
Once again reaffirming that life is short, precious, and so unpredictable. A reminder that we should be thankful for every day we get to spend with loved ones.
RIP. Terrible news.
All is forgiven Alex Plante! We really really like having selected you retrospectively.
All is forgiven Alex Plante! We really really like having selected you retrospectively.
Pretty hard to complain about his injury problems now!
Too soon.
Jesus. Unbelievable. Sad say indeed.
Directly from one of the posters on my hockey forum: nhltopshelf.com
EDIT 2: “In the 18th minute of the third period of Avangard Omsk’s game against Chekhov Vityaz, Cherepanov collided with Jaromir Jagr during a line change. Once Cherepanov got to the bench, he collapsed, and team doctors determined that his heart had stopped and immediately began attempts to revive him.”
http://nhl.fanhouse.com/2008/10/13/rangers…herepanov-dies/
Just a freakish, sad thing.
Poor Jagr. Such a fluke thing but he’s gotta feel miserable about it regardless. Well, you would as a teammate even without the collision I guess.
Sad.
Not to point fingers here, but who was responsible for the ambulance leaving? For defibrillator maintenance?
Some questions to be answered in the days ahead.
The KHL's news release, translated partially by Babel Fish, partially by me eyeballing it and fixing the computer's stilted nonsense (I'm not digging out my dictionary and spending two hours on it myself):
Last night, during the Continental Hockey League tournament match between Vityaz Chekhov and Avangard Omsk, the heart of Avangard forward Alexei Cherapanov stopped. Alexei was ambulanced to the Chekhov city hospital; unfortunately, despite the doctors' efforts, the 19-year-old hockey player's life could not be saved.
Police have begun investigating the cause of Cherepanov's death. The KHL expresses sincere condolences to Cherepanov's family and friends, and guarantees full disclosure regarding [the motion of the checking]. <- I'm not sure about this last bit, if it means the collision with Jagr or the police investigation.
Doogie: I imagine it has to do with the ambulance leaving early and the lack of “working equipment” that were reported earlier.
For a 19-year old kid to die is tragic enough, but if there’s even a small sense of not having the best available equipment then we really need to look at this closely.
And I don’t want any “well it’s Russia crap” either. Mike Modano was DROPPED several times by emergency workers as they were putting him into an ambulance many years ago. Stupidity doesn’t have borders.
Also, I know it’s just after this event happened but I’d really like to know why this is happening (Zholtok, Fischer). Are they training differently? Steroids?
I know it’s right after the event, but dammit this is ridiculous.
19 years old.
One thing that comes to mind is that, if the rumours of Jagr accidentally hitting Cherepanov in the chest are true, there is a condition called commotio cordis that can be caused by a firm impact to the chest. The young are more vulnerable as well.
If Cherepanov did end up with commotio cordis, he was probably already as good as dead before anybody quite realised what was happening. A working defibrillator might have saved him, but…
19, that’s gotta be tough for those who are close to him. Terrible news.
I imagine it has to do with the ambulance leaving early and the lack of “working equipment” that were reported earlier.
Makes sense. Brings me back to my previous question, about who was responsible for those orders and that maintenance.
Also, I know it’s just after this event happened but I’d really like to know why this is happening (Zholtok, Fischer). Are they training differently? Steroids?
Remember Mickey Renaud? He was a Flames prospect with the Windsor Spitfires, who died of a congentive heart defect last season. Could just as easily be that.
doogie: That could be true, it could be something genetic (or some such).
However, if true, isn’t that something that would preclude him from playing?
sports illustrated ran an article nearly a year ago about heart disease and how it’s killing athletes. a really scary read.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/12/04/broken.hearts1210/index.html
Has the hockey world learned anything from the Fischer and Zholtok incidents? Or should we consider this a singular, freakish incident?
However, if true, isn’t that something that would preclude him from playing?
Not necessarily. I don’t think they found anything on Renaud pre-mortem, either. Some heart defects can be extremely difficult to spot and diagnose, especially in a still-developing teenaged body.
Heard on the radio this morning that he had a pre-existing condition (sorry can’t remember the medical name of it) whereby his internal organs, including his heart, did not receive adequate blood supply. From Pierre McGuire during a call in to the Fan 960.
Tragic.
Is it possible that this was known to upper levels of hockey management, and did it contribute to his ‘low’ draft position?
Very sad news indeed.
Chronic ischemia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ischemia
Seems a bit crazy that someone with this condition would be playing high level sports – AND that it wasn’t known by scouts etc prior to the draft.
Sadly the wikipedia article already links to Alexei Cherepanov.
If the reports about the lack of proper medical apparati are true, this is going to be a real hit to the credibility of the KHL. I have to wonder if the likes of Jagr, Markkanen, Radulov are re-considering their move to Russia right now.
Tragic news. I’m certain it’s going to scare players away from Russia and back to North America. In a sick, twisted way the NHL is better for him dying.
I do want to express that by no way am I saying his death is a good thing. Cherepanov, Bourdon and Renaud should have had long productive careers and have been taken from us way too soon.
dorito: It’s all good. I think it’s important to discuss this and the more we talk about it the more maddening it all is imo.
They showed a youtube video from the Russian arena on TSN before the Flames/Avs game today. The first thing that came to mind was:
What.The.Fuck.
It was chaos. Players standing around looking on but doing seemingly nothing to help. Didn’t look like there was even a competent trainer present. Then the players carried(Fuck!) him off the bench. No stretcher to be seen to evenly support his weight. Arms, legs, neck(Fuck!) hanging limply as two or three players rushed him off the scene.
I wouldn’t wish that kind of desecration on my enemies. There had better be answers.
Perhaps the smoking gun that determines the distinction between a good league and a bad league, not that I want it to boil down to hockey-related politics.
What’s up with the medical standards in the KHL, anyway?