Jesse James

Today the Edmonton Oilers claimed Jesse Boulerice on waivers. This move means several things:

  1. Steve MacIntyre must really be injured.
  2. MacT is comfortable with a 4line that plays very little.
  3. No one remembers the Andrew Long incident. Didn’t come up once all day.

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  1. Black Dog says:

    All I can think of is the end of Slapshot where they introduce every goon that ever lived for the championship game against the Chiefs.

    “I thought he was dead”

    MacT must feel there is some use in keeping these thugs around. I know of at least one guy who doesn’t agree (hiya Bruce!)

    I’m not sure how I feel about this. I would bet that Ales Hemsky is happy about this and I guess his opinion matters more then mine.

  2. Angela says:

    Happy day…I’m not sure how this guy is any better than our broken jaw smacintyre or huggybear…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PlNzARV0XM

  3. raventalon40 says:

    Yikes.

    Here it is for anyone who didn’t read about it.

    I hope for our sake the lineup stays the same as it was against NYR.

  4. the gabe says:

    Picking up Bowl of Rice has nothing to do with Stortini’s role on this team imo.

    Storts is not cut out to be a team’s number one heavyweight, that much is obvious.

    He’s a 4th line banger/agitator who won’t killed in a fight with anyone in the West this year. Zach has the ability to nullify goons and annoy the other team to no end. He can skate and doesn’t give up much. He’s started slow (actually looks off from last season) but the guy is 22, coachable as hell, and has a brain.

    Anybody that has managed to goad Regher into two FMs where RR was the clear instigator has a place on this team.

  5. raventalon40 says:

    Quote from here:

    “I almost died,” says Long. “It was within a couple of inches either way of happening. If I would have seen him, my natural reaction would have been to tip my head back and if I did that and he hit me in the neck, I would have been dead on impact.

    “If it was two inches higher and I died, what would he have got then?”

    Boulerice was suspended for a year by the OHL. But he played the next year anyway in the AHL after sitting out 15 games.

    Boulerice was charged with assault to do great bodily harm less than murder. He later pleaded no contest to a reduced charge of aggravated assault.

    Interestingly, Long played with Todd Bertuzzi in Guelph. They remain friends. And when he was growing up, Steve Moore was his best buddy. He still has pictures of the pair playing road hockey.

    “People ask me, ‘How do you compare what happened to Steve?’” says Long. “I tell them what [Boulerice] has done is worse. So much worse, you can’t compare them. It’s because if you use your stick, you can kill someone. You can truly kill someone. I know Todd had an intention to hurt but what [Boulerice] had was an intention to debilitate.”

    Andrew Long says the Boulerice incident was worse than the Steve Moore incident.

    And btw, I think Zack Stortini is a very useful player because he can do more than fight – he hits, kills the occasional penalty, and drives the net hard. And more skills than either MacIntyre or Boulerice by a long shot.

    How is acquiring Boulerice a “sign that Stortini is on the block” all of a sudden?

    He wasn’t on the block when we had MacIntyre, and he certainly isn’t now that we’ve downgraded to Jesse Boulerice.

  6. Phil says:

    Phanoof with an own-goal tonight. Haha.

  7. Bruce says:

    MacT must feel there is some use in keeping these thugs around. I know of at least one guy who doesn’t agree (hiya Bruce!)

    Hiya Pat. Fucking aye, I don’t agree, this thug is about the last guy I want to see wearing Oiler blue. Simply put, he can’t play hockey. Here’s his stats since the lockout:

    43 GP, 0-0-0, +1/-10 = -9
    2:42 TOI/GP
    0.52 GF ON/60
    5.16 GA ON/60

    Then there’s the matter of the 25-game suspension and who knows how many other stupid penalties. He’s not a particularly effective fighter, who according to hockeyfights.com badly lost all three of his fights last season (to Eric Godard, Andrew Peters, and Colton Orr — nary a Robyn Regehr in the bunch).

    There is absolutely no comparison with Zack Stortini who is not the greatest fighter either, but can play a little bit and is definitively NOT a cheap shot artist. I have never seen Zack use his stick on a guy or hit anybody in the back, even when the opportunity has presented itself. Whereas Boulerice has serious potential to both hurt and embarrass the Oilers.

    Relevant quote: “Over the last several seasons, the American Hockey League has established a strict disciplinary standard relative to violent play. We strongly support the National Hockey League’s recent decisions relative to targeting the head of an opponent.
    “In determining his eligibility date, it was taken into account that this is the second time in his carer that Mr. Boulerice has been assigned to the AHL while under a lengthy suspension in another league
    .”
    – Dave Andrews, AHL President, 2007

  8. Doogie2K says:

    And I have videos of both incidents. Fuck this guy sideways, I don’t want him on my team.

  9. B.C.B. says:

    Don’t get me wrong. I think Huggy Bear does have a spot on the team, he has a defensive up side, and most nights I rather have a goon then a pest (from preseason, I thought MacT was grooming him to eventual be 3rd liner and might odd shift on the PK).

    After Huggy Bear has played 8 games to SMac’s 10 and we pick up Boulerice off waivers, I am getting the feeling that maybe Storini is being seen as “clearly not wanted and now again not needed.” I would assume we trade him rather then waiving him (since Florida or Colarado just lost their fighters to us).

    For the record:
    Huggy Bear = Defensive upside, leadership qualitites can fight a bit / why we draft him in the second round
    Boulerice = waste of food that could be given to poor starving kids in africa, liability
    Smac = waste of roster spot, and entertaining

  10. Bill Needle says:

    43 GP, 0-0-0, +1/-10 = -9
    2:42 TOI/GP
    0.52 GF ON/60
    5.16 GA ON/60

    You fail to mention Boulerice had exactly six shots on goal during these 43 games.

  11. Kris says:

    Breaking news: the Oilers have signed Tim ‘The Hook’ McCracken and Ogie Oglethorpe.

    Wow, I used to think if tough guys are supposed to deter the other team’s players from taking cheap shots, then why not hire and dress a mental patient with a lead stick who -only when commanded by the coach- would swing his lead stick at the opposing players heads. I always thought I was being silly.

    But now, I see the Oilers had the same thought and followed through.

    BTW, I distinctly remember a lot of statements by Lowe and MacT, to the effect that tough guys were otiose… kitsch even. Do any of you suppose either the new owner or the new GM is responsible for this new goonery? Or have the players demanded it? (And isn’t this the sort of question that sports journalists like Brownly and Macwhatsisname should be investigating?)

  12. Phil says:

    Ok, so wasn’t Tambellini in the Van organization last year when Boulerice axed Kessler??? Shouldn’t that make him taking Boulerice off waivers even more of a head scratcher?

  13. rickibear says:

    Ok, so wasn’t Tambellini in the Van organization last year when Boulerice axed Kessler??? Shouldn’t that make him taking Boulerice off waivers even more of a head scratcher?

    Makes all the sense in the world.

    This guy will not hug the teams star if another team goes after our players.

    His actions and rep are the perfect deterent.

  14. Kris says:

    Rickibear says,

    “His actions and rep are the perfect deterent.”

    True enough, but isn’t the converse also possible? That is, suppose Boulerice takes some shots at other team’s high end talent; won’t that increase the heat and result in more cheapshots coming at Hemsky et al. I mean, won’t the other teams Boulerice’s cheapshot our players in response to all our Boulericing…

    Okay, so I don’t think it’s worth it to refight the age old fight about fighting here, but, well, sometimes when you fight fire with fire, you end up getting burned to death.

    I think the real problem with Boulerice is that he’s not in control. He doesn’t seem to attack in response, so he’s not a deterrent. Rather, he creates the need for deterrence from the other team by being the aggressor. If the Oilers were already filled with tough guys, Boulerice would be a great addition, but as it is, the Oil are just asking for trouble with this pickup.

  15. Bruce says:

    //43 GP, 0-0-0, +1/-10 = -9
    2:42 TOI/GP
    0.52 GF ON/60
    5.16 GA ON/60//

    You fail to mention Boulerice had exactly six shots on goal during these 43 games.

    Good catch, Bill Needle. I had actually looked that up and was going to mention it, but it almost seemed redundant. Give or take Steve MacIntyre, this is the furthest thing from a hockey player to appear on Edmonton’s regular season roster since … geez, I dunno, help me out here. Mark Laforge? Dennis Bonvie?? Mike Ware???

  16. Bruce says:

    And I have videos of both incidents. Fuck this guy sideways, I don’t want him on my team.

    Thanks Doogie. Sorry, I haven’t figured out how to post a comment on your site, but I do visit.

    Why is this guy still allowed to play organized hockey? That’s just disgusting. The Long incident was worse than McSorley on Brashear, and that involving Kesler was probably the cheapest shot in the NHL since the lockout.

    I guess when you fight as well as he did against Aaron Downey , you probably don’t want to drop the stick. But those are the actions of a coward, not a “tough guy”.

  17. hunter1909 says:

    Well just exactly what do us Oiler fans want? A reprise of the past 2 Laraque-less seasons, with an endless procession to the Injury Reserve list?

    I LOVE having goons on the team. Lots and lots of goons.

    And for you younger Oilers fans who obviously can’t remember the glory days of yore, our team has always had a plethora of goons on tap, from the heavyweight Semenko to the killer McSorely to the uber-pest Linseman.

    *shakes head*

    Man oh man am I happy that idiot Kevin Lowe isn’t running the team anymore. Team toughness!!??? Give me a break.

  18. Doogie2K says:

    Sorry, I haven’t figured out how to post a comment on your site, but I do visit.

    Because the site was born as a webcomic site with forums, we don’t have a “real” comment box; the link just takes you to a forum you have to register for. I actually told Ender not to bother with the comment box when he originally redesigned the site, because no one was visiting anyway, but I may have to see if he can make one after all.

    A reprise of the past 2 Laraque-less seasons, with an endless procession to the Injury Reserve list?

    But that’s the thing. The goon is a red herring. No one has to go with him, no one wants to go with him, and for the other 57 minutes of the night, when he’s not on the ice, who responds? This isn’t the 80s when you could have three guys pile over the boards at the first sign of trouble and take turns pounding. The instigator and the ten-game suspension for leaving the bench saw to that quite nicely.

  19. Matt says:

    Andrew Long… Uh, he turned at the last minute? Put himself in a vulnerable position? Hockey is a very fast game?

    Ah well, forgetting about Long will make it that much easier to write his “Can you believe how sweet this guy is?” feature on edmontonoilers.com.

    EdmontonOilers.com, for ALL your Oilers online needs.

  20. Quain says:

    Well just exactly what do us Oiler fans want? A reprise of the past 2 Laraque-less seasons, with an endless procession to the Injury Reserve list?

    Jesse Boulerice – Curing seperated shoulders and broken legs with a wink and a stick. Just like Jesus.

  21. hunter1909 says:

    Hockey and sports in general provide an escape from the drudgery of everyday existance.

    In everyday life, people who are prepared to push the law to the limit, as horrible as it might seem to the Sunday School crowd in here, tend to do way better than those who don’t.

    See Lou of New Jersey, Sam Pollock of the Canadiens for clarification.

    Fair enough that it’s not the 80′s. Of course, it’s also nice not to have to quiver in our collective boots at the thought of meeting the big bad mister Boogard, or those ever so mean Calgary Flames, who pick on Hemsky like the schoolyard bully.

    But I do see your point. I really do.

  22. rickibear says:

    “I guess when you fight as well as he did against Aaron Downey , you probably don’t want to drop the stick.”

    Amen to that. I want the other teams tough knowing our guy is not going to punch there star. He will be the nuclear button the other side knows we have.

    I just hope we never have to use it. That means bad things for both teams.

  23. Black Dog says:

    I went to high school with Marc LaForge, Bruce.

    He was a pretty good hockey player and a decent guy. Drafted by the local junior club and they asked him to goon it up so he did.

    The incident against Guelph was brutal, iirc. There was a line brawl and he skated around sucker punching guys who were fighting other guys. The whole thing ended with him bouncing some guy’s head off the ice when the officials dragged him away.

    To get suspended from the OHL in those days took some work.

  24. Ribs says:

    Well it’s about time we got some protection for Stortini… Poor little guy.

  25. Bruce says:

    In everyday life, people who are prepared to push the law to the limit, as horrible as it might seem to the Sunday School crowd in here, tend to do way better than those who don’t.

    Hunter: Jesse Boulerice hasn’t pushed the law to the limit, he has gone WAY over the line. The two acts of thuggery linked above are repugnant to most hockey fans. I for one don’t want to see that shit, and I don’t want his stain associated with my team.

    As for “doing way better”, other than a couple cups of coffee — which hopefully is all he’ll get here — Boulerice’s only extended service was with the Carolina Hurricanes. The ‘canes had gone to the Stanley Cup finals the year before he made the team. He played two full seasons there in which they didn’t even make the playoffs. Halfway through the following season they finally got rid of him, then went on to win the Stanley Cup. Seems to me his team was a fuck of a lot better off without him.

  26. Lord Bob says:

    Jesse Boulerice is a, with language moderated in respect to Lowetide’s children, human bag of crap.

    That said, all his career Boulerice has been in a position where his coaches and manages have expected him to flip out and mangle people, and he’s been rewarded by the teams for doing it.

    So it’ll be curious to see what the Oil expect from him.

  27. godot10 says:

    It is obvious now why the Oilers claimed him. From the Journal article today, they said Colorado had signed him. So since they had an open roster spot, they can keep him away from Colorado for awhile till SMac returns.

  28. CrazyCoach says:

    In other news…..

    KLowe’s prayers have been answered as Brian Burke is being fired as GM of the Ducks.

    Burke’s stellar record of taking Stanley Cup contender’s to middle of the pack teams continues. (See Vancouver Canucks-1998-2005)

  29. CrazyCoach says:

    I also heard the Oilers were looking at picking up Clarence “Screaming Buffalo” Swamptown and Gilmore Tuttle for their big grudge match against the Leafs on Thursday.

    I don’t know about this Boulerice other than what I’ve seen and read. He doesn’t sound like he’s going to be here to put up points.

    What would Ned Braden think?

  30. Black Dog says:

    crazycoach – what would he do?

    WWNBD?

  31. Quain says:

    Oh, God, Boulerice is feeding Kesler stick, left and right! Oh God! The humanity! Why won’t someone please stop this madness– wait, what’s that? THAT’S STORTINI’S MUSIC! Boulerice doesn’t know how to react! Stortini jumps in the ring and… hugs him! Oh God! How can the world possibly stand against this evil union!

    … and then Joe Sakic skates by and scores a goal.

  32. Lord Bob says:

    KLowe’s prayers have been answered as Brian Burke is being fired as GM of the Ducks.

    How do I put this?

    Na-na-na-na! Na-na-na! Hey hey hey! Goodbye!

    On the bright side, when he’s appointed to replace Fletcher as GM of the Leafs, hilarity will ensue!

  33. CrazyCoach says:

    Blackdog my guess is NB would walk up to the Oilers press box in his skates and tell Rod Phillips and the entire world that he indeed is a chickenshit.

    Back to Burke.

    I hear he’s already in talks with the WWE or UFC to take on recently laid-off, Kimbo Slice.

  34. raventalon40 says:

    It would be hilarious if Lesnar lost to Couture and then had to fight Kimbo Slice.

  35. Alice says:

    The first thought that occurred to me was we picked him up to keep him off somebody else’s roster for a while, it’s the only thing that makes sense.
    And whatever happened to Lefebvre – if SMac was out for a longer stint wouldn’t he have been worth trying again? Mr Boulerice looks like a poison pill to me.

  36. spOILer says:

    Jeez, thought you were kidding about Burke.

    Hmm, and after the NHL got involved in the feud, neither GM is now a GM.

  37. CrazyCoach says:

    Oh I kid not about the misfortunes of the NHL’s greatest windbag, Brian Burke.

    I see he caught Pronger Disease and cited family considerations as his reason to not sign an extension.

    Toronto seems to be the logical place for Burker: Team on the upswing all created by someone else….

  38. Doogie2K says:

    Fair enough that it’s not the 80′s. Of course, it’s also nice not to have to quiver in our collective boots at the thought of meeting the big bad mister Boogard, or those ever so mean Calgary Flames, who pick on Hemsky like the schoolyard bully.

    I’m not sure what you’re saying here. Thug X might take Thug Y off the ice for five minutes, but beyond that, Thug X isn’t on the ice often enough or long enough to make an appreciable difference. Matt Cooke certainly looked afraid of Steve MacIntyre’s broken-boned stink-eye from the bench on Thursday.

    To get suspended from the OHL in those days took some work.

    I can imagine. Hell, it took going into the crowd to earn more than a token suspension in the NHL.

  39. Alice says:

    I read that Burke’s leaning towards Philly,

    …. just so he can trade Lupul to the Oilers again.

  40. Alice says:

    And at Man-Love Sports and Entertainment, small wooden likenesses are being… umm, erected in his honour.

  41. raventalon40 says:

    Hmm, and after the NHL got involved in the feud, neither GM is now a GM.

    Coincidence? Or part of Bettman’s dark designs?

  42. Doogie2K says:

    @Alice: Well played. /bow

  43. spOILer says:

    I’m sure it’s just a coincidence.

    My meagre sources (ex-NHLer in the office) indicate that Lowe really was promoted and the decisions still run thru his desk. He technically gets to leave his GM hat on.

    I think it’s pretty obvious Burke was moved because of his refusal to sign an extension, likely creating a lack of confidence in whether he will act in the best interests of the team.

    Hey, if he was in sales, they’d be escorting him out the door before he could print off his client list. “It’s not unusual…”

    I’m sure they’re not too happy about his cap management either, but it did bring them a Cup. Now he can do his song and dance routine elsewhere, before the high water mark in ANA recedes, leaving Burke standing there in the Full Monty for all to see.

  44. Bruce says:

    Matt Cooke certainly looked afraid of Steve MacIntyre’s broken-boned stink-eye from the bench on Thursday.

    Well said, Doogie. Give or take Boogaard or Shelley who both put Oilers on the shelf in ’06-07, the super-heavyweights are never going to touch the guys doing the cheap stuff and/or causing most of the injuries. Whereas Stortini went with Lapointe and Regehr after their cheap shots on Hemsky; he took down Lapointe twice and bloodied Regehr’s nose once, all in fair fights, no stickwork or excessive violence or even instigating penalty required. You don’t have to break the guy’s orbital bone to deliver the message.

  45. CrazyCoach says:

    The more I hear about this Boulerice character the more I fear that he will do something incredibly stupid that will come back and bite the Oilers in the butt.

    You know if guys like him and Steve Downie aren’t in Philly’s plans, then the Quebec Senior League is calling.

  46. Dennis says:

    Maybe Pat’s right and it doesn’t matter what We think: if guys like Ales think it’s worth having toughs around then it’s worth doing.

    Personally, I like watching the scraps but I really don’t know how much of a difference they make. Ruutuu didn’t think twice about running Grebs nor Torres Smid so what difference has it really made?

  47. Black Dog says:

    Dennis – I would say in the end that’s what it comes down to

    How else would you explain this deathbed conversion?

    Plus you have a bunch of little smurfs running around – Gagner, Nilsson, Cogliano

    They are building a skill club here, which I think is great, but “team toughness” hasn’t gotten them anywhere the last couple of years.

    And with due respect to Stortini his presence on the team last year did not prevent guys like Reghyr tossing Hemsky into the dasher every chance he got.

    MacIntyre is the nuclear deterrent. You’re always going to have hitting (Ruutu) and punks like Cooke but put it this way – if a guy like MacIntyre does give Hemsky and Gagner extra room out there (and remember how happy guys were after he played his first game in the preseason?!)then to the Oilers he is worth it.

    To me its stupid. But I’m not the guy out on the ice. (and I hate that argument – Domi used to say it all the time – but in this case it may be true)

  48. Dennis says:

    Pat: Maybe, yeah, that’s just what it comes down to. All we know for sure is there’s been a definite sea change with the way the brass views it’s approach because we’ve now picked up two sluggers off waivers so it appears they’ll go any route to put them in the lineup.

    For a guy like 78 it’s great news because these guys can’t really play so anytime they’re in the order it means more time for guys who actually Can play. For a guy like Brule you’d have to think he’s either staying in the A for the long haul or he’ll have to absolutely tear it up to get the call; and if he does it will only be because we made a deal and opened a spot for him in the top 11.

    The 12th spot seems earmarked for a heavy.

  49. Black Dog says:

    Dennis – there are a couple of things I like about the setup

    every year a guy or two rots in the pressbox for a month before he gets three or four minutes of icetime and then they send him down

    this year Pouliot and Brodziak know they have to contribute more then one guy to stay in the lineup rather then two and both have more to offer then Stortini so they can play a little relaxed which I think helps

    on top of that when MacIntyre was on the bench they were getting minutes with guys like Cole, Nilsson and Hemsky – that has to help them do some good things

    imo both guys are better players then they were last year and I think that’s part of the reason

    of course now there is an extra goalie so it seems they can’t get everything right ;)

    if things continue to go well the guy I wonder about is Nilsson – he had a good start but he’s in the doghouse again – he really has a tradeable contract and I wonder if they move him and a guy like Smid or Grebs for a young stud Dman

    move him and there’s that spot for Brule

    because once they get to the playoffs they’re going to need a guy who can play on that fourth line

  50. Ribs says:

    So does he make someone famous in his debut? I can hardly wait.

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