Oilers at Capitals, G42/08-09

This is Scott Stevens. A lot of people forget he was drafted by Washington and played a regular shift (+14 for the season) at age 18. He played 22 seasons in the big leagues and was never a minus at the end of the season. He was EV one season and +53 in his finest season (in that regard) plus of course he hammered people with great joy.

He was a part of three Stanley teams in New Jersey and finally lost his career to injury after 1868 NHL games (regular and playoff).

The Capitals have had many outstanding players in their history, in fact a few elite level players.

I don’t think any of them will compare with the guy from Moscow.

The Oilers are on the road in a town that worships Oil. The town team often kicks the living daylights out of Edmonton when they drop by and if I recall correctly the Oilers usually play Washington on Sunday afternoons and April Fool’s so they usually have an air of farce to them.

This is an important two points, but I wonder if the Oilers as a team will play with the urgency required to win the thing. They certainly won’t put forth 60 full minutes, we know that to be true based on the previous 41 games (and that’s a lot of at-bats).

Last GDT I suggested that if the Oilers aren’t alone in 8th (or better) that we’ll change the feel of the blog through spring. Open up the windows, let some air in. Maybe paint. Spackle first! Man that’s a good word. Spackle!

Actually, that’s what the Oilers need in some key areas. Spackle! I wish they could find a Czech defenseman named Spackle (maybe that’s what Hejda means) and it would be grand if they had a veteran center so Shawn Horcoff could go back to being a hockey player again.

Anyway, we said 8th or else and here are the standings as of this morning:

  1. SJS 67PTS (41gp)
  2. DET 64PTS (42gp)
  3. CAL 54PTS (41gp)
  4. CHI 53PTS (40gp)
  5. VAN 49PTS (44gp)
  6. ANA 49PTS (44gp)
  7. PHX 47PTS (43gp)
  8. COL 45PTS (42gp)
  9. CBJ 44PTS (42gp)
  10. MIN 43PTS (41gp)
  11. EDM 43PTS (41gp)
  12. DAL 42PTS (41gp)
  13. NAS 41PTS (42gp)
  14. LAK 40PTS (41gp)
  15. STL 35PTS (41gp)

So they are tied for 10th with a very nice schedule leading into the All-Star break. If they had 2 more wins in the first half the Oilers would be tied for 7th with two games in hand, looking good moving forward. However, another way to look at this is the Edmonton Oilers are a losing streak away from being a player in the Tavares sweepstakes.

They could have done from the salary floor.

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  1. Black Dog says:

    ah quain, Horc plays best when he’s ill; remember ’06

    didn’t he pop a blood vessel in his eye from puking during the Ducks’ series?

  2. Cloned says:

    Erik Cole was fan-fucking-tastic tonight.

    If he’s truly found his game, when we get Hemsky back, the forward lines look a whole lot better.

  3. Black Dog says:

    if Schremp had played the Oilers would have won 51 -2

    Schremp would have rushed for seven touchdowns, kicked the converts and sacked Ovechkin for the safety

  4. Coach pb9617 says:

    Jurcina, Morrisonn, Erskine and Schultz — the Caps have four huge defencemen. None of them seem to be able to handle Cole, though.

    Erskine and Schultz suck. Morrisonn hasn’t been the same since his injury last year. That’s why I said earlier that they only have one guy capable of handling Penner and Cole.

  5. quain says:

    If Schremp had played MacTavish would have gotten the room back… and then gotten some fuzz from one of three local girls Schremp brought back to the hotel to celebrate his first star.

  6. Coach pb9617 says:

    Brule has been one exciting guy tonight. Being physical is big for him in order to keep his spot long term.

    The Glencross comparisons have begun. The end times are upon us.

  7. nameht says:

    NHL.com credits Cole with a hattrick

    Erik Cole is finally playing how everyone hoped he would

  8. Derek says:

    Cole is being credited with the hatty on NHL.com

  9. Coach pb9617 says:

    We need a veteran center before MacTavish kills him.

    It’s like Luke and the Boss. All Mac needs is a pair of mirror lenses.

  10. Tyler says:

    Stories about how MacT cancelled Christmas should break every day.

  11. Coach pb9617 says:

    Erik Cole was fan-fucking-tastic tonight.

    If he’s truly found his game, when we get Hemsky back, the forward lines look a whole lot better.

    He may have found his game, or maybe he was just comfortable slaughtering a southeast team. I’m guessing the latter. He knew that Schultz, Erskine and Morrisonn had nothing for it.

  12. Steve says:

    Cole’s numbers are inflated by the SE, is all.

    (I can’t tell if I’m kidding or just commenting ill-informedly – feel free to choose which for yourself.)

  13. slipper says:

    The good Eastern conference teams give up a lot more in the other direction than the good Western conference teams. That said, Washington throws a shitload of rubber at their opponents.

    Ovechkin had 21 shot attempts tonight.

    He had 24 attempts against Columbus a few games ago. That’s nearly 1/4 of what Ribeiro took all last season. There is a conversation about repeatability in there. I swear, if Ovechkin was drafted in ’78 or ’79, he might have shattered the goals in a season record a half dozen times.

  14. DeBakey says:

    If Schremp had played MacTavish would have gotten the room back.

    I don’t know about that
    Prendergast said that Schremp’s
    Fancy-Shmancy jock straps might hurt Roli’s Save %.

  15. Bruce says:

    You know it’s a good night when not only does your team get all the stars, there’s many more than 3 candidates. Hard to disagree with the choices, although Brodziak (1-1-2, +4) and Cole (3-0-3, +2) certainly deserve the honourable mention.

    Two steps forward …

  16. danny says:

    Brodz shot def looked like it deflected in off of Coles skate. I was surprised when they awarded it to him.

    Good on Cole…

    Him in good form, makes this team worth picking up a center for. Are you listening Tamblowe? of course not.

    Seriously though. How the fuck does the management not understand Horc is an all-star when hes not a shutdown guy? They have him locked in long term, so get him a damn Mike Peca type please.

    Canucks already competing for division lead, add Sundin and Lababera. It must be nice to have management that are aware of, and address team needs.

  17. Scott says:

    I’m late to the party, but thanks for that slipper. I laughed out loud, that’s one of my favorite movies.

    So…
    LT goes toe to toe with the Oiler hockey gods.
    Did they blink?

  18. PunjabiOil says:

    Rudy! Rudy! Rudy!

    To quote the Simpson’s -

    “What I lack in talent I make up in sheer obnoxiousness”

    Ladislav Smid doesn’t get much love in this area, but he’s really developing into a shutdown defenceman. Lock him up – 5 years, 10M.

  19. Lord Bob says:

    If Schremp had played Penner would have become lean and trim.

  20. Coach pb9617 says:

    Cole:

    8 goals on 40 shots in his last 12 games – 20%

    3 goals on 59 shots in his first 30 games – 5%

  21. Dennis says:

    Here’s my take:

    http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3034

    Slipper: Steve Simmons covered the Frost trial and Eric Duhatschek covered the Avery saga. Ever wonder why?:)

    Tonight was all about Roli saving our ass in the first 10 minutes. At 11:09 I charted a scoring chance for the Caps and that gave them an 8-1 lead. From that moment on the Oilers outchanced them 19-15 and the last two Caps chances came on a 6-on-5 with two min left that really didn’t matter a whole lot.

    Oilers really evened things up tonight in terms of dman EVTOI; 71 had the most with 16:07 and 24 came in last at 14:12. Speaking of Staios, that was old-school Steve tonight with all those blocked shots.

    I loved 67′s confidence but the dumb penalties just won’t do. 21 runs on his skates but he’s one of the few Oilers that understands the importance of shots from the slot. He made that play on 26′s second goal and later on he went to the right corner and spun and put it once again towards a slot-positioned Cole.

  22. docweb says:

    This is the life of an Oiler’s fan…beat San Jose and Washington and lose to the bums.

    Just enough to tease you…

    Gagner and Cogs are looking better and better. Cole is getting the Karma treatment. All of the bad breaks are now being traded for good ones.

  23. PunjabiOil says:

    The bad news is that:

    Nashville
    Minnesota
    Columbus

    all got 2 points.

    Colorado & Phoenix did not.

  24. HBomb says:

    Christ almighty, I look at a team with a 21-18-3 record, and think, if they had only taken care of business against LA, Toronto, Ottawa and Florida at home…..

  25. Coach pb9617 says:

    Ladislav Smid doesn’t get much love in this area, but he’s really developing into a shutdown defenceman. Lock him up – 5 years, 10M.

    Bruce and I try to give him love, but LT shuts us down. LT hates Smid.

  26. Lord Bob says:

    Someday, Smid and Pouliot are going to swap sweaters for a game just to see how LT reacts.

  27. quain says:

    if they had only taken care of business against LA, Toronto, Ottawa and Florida at home…..

    Yeah, it’s pretty brutal. They have a chance to make up for it in the next week though… Minnesota, Colorado, Columbus, and Phoenix. Doing well down that stretch would be huge.

    Which means we’re going 1-3.

  28. slipper says:

    Dennis: Kudos to Steve for sticking with the Frost saga. It’s an ugly situation that doesn’t raise enough ire in the hockey community.

    A few things, though:

    1. The Frost and Avery incidents are completely unrelated. The abuse Frost allegedly has doled out on minor hockey players has no bearing on the “Sloppy Seconds” fiasco.

    2. I don’t dissect the media nearly as much as you, but I’ve seen enough of Simmons talking about the WC on The Reporters to know he has his head up is ass half the time.

  29. Kris says:

    Is Macintyre’s shooting percentage sustainable?

  30. Black Dog says:

    Yeah LT, just like Vlad Lenin used to say:

    “All we are saying ……… is give Smid a chance”

  31. Lowetide says:

    Smid’s been playing well for quite awhile now. Have they increased his degree of difficulty yet?

    I’m asking because I don’t know.

  32. Dennis says:

    Slipper: I’m guessing you’re around 26 so even though you’d have re-runs to watch I doubt that you’d think of Alex from Degrassi High everytime you see Simmons:) But I do and that’s why I have a hard time giving him any credibility.

    That along with the fact I’ve read him for ~ the past 10 years – I had net access at home for the first time in ’99 – and I haven’t been impressed once.

    My idea is you had Frost purportedly watching and instructing his young charges how to engage in sex acts with various dirties and the coverage of his trial wasn’t close to blanket. Which strikes me as odd considering this was potential misogyny and that’s the word I heard tossed around quite liberally when Avery made his comments.

    The Stars were struggling, two weeks earlier Jackson had shopped Avery around the league and Hicks had considered buying him out before the incident in Cgy. So, the guy say somethings you can put in print and show on video and everyone puts the boots to him and rallies around an issue no one really gives two fucks about.

    Otherwise, Steve Simmons would’ve had some hefty company at the Frost trial.

  33. Coach pb9617 says:


    Yeah, it’s pretty brutal. They have a chance to make up for it in the next week though… Minnesota, Colorado, Columbus, and Phoenix. Doing well down that stretch would be huge.

    Which means we’re going 1-3.

    It’s 2-1-1 as long as LT keeps up his traitorous ways.

  34. Black Dog says:

    yeah but the Avery story sells Dennis, you know that

    the Frost story is like the James story – junior hockey is a disgrace and yet its held up as good and pure by the mainstream media – they’re not going to turn over that particular rock, nossir

    btw was out east and heard a good story about Avery and Phaneuf from last year – can’t repeat it esp if LT’s daughter reads this but lets just say that Avery went down this road before

  35. Dennis says:

    LT: I don’t have to rail on Smid anymore because my point’s been proven for seasons-on-over:)

    That being said I’ve been on his wagon this year as improving and I’m not sure what my scoring chance numbers said about him.

    I missed the SJ game but here’s how I’ve ranked him in the last five games I’ve charted:

    at Wsh: 1/4
    vs Stl: 2/5
    vs Van: 5/8
    vs NYI: 4/5
    vs Dal: 8/5

    So, this doesn’t take into account Qual of linemates but we know that we’ve got four games in this five game segment and that MacT uses Gil-ray to play the tough opp.

    So, the last five games for Smid are 20/27; most likely while playing soft opp.

  36. Dennis says:

    Pat: I am a big fan of women though like most of us I suspect;), I haven’t been above cheating and/or lying to them either.

    The NHL and the press corps doesn’t give two fucks about how the players treat women or else there would be a 10,000 part series on what happens in junior hockey.

    My point has always been to not believe the hype.

    Sean Avery took more boots than did Billy Tibbets.

  37. quain says:

    So, the last five games for Smid are 20/27; most likely while playing soft opp.

    Playing soft opposition usually also means playing behind the worst forwards on the team, so I think that plays a role in it… and I would guess scoring chances are similar to shots in that they’re driven by the forwards more than the back end.

    But accepting 20/27 as an accurate representation of his current skill level, I’d still try to sign him up to nice value contract. The kid looks like he could be a decent player.

  38. slipper says:

    I’m around thirty-ish, Dennis. If that matters.

    You raise a good point- one which I agree with: that the Frost case hasn’t attracted nearly enough media attention, ecspecially from hockey types.

    Trying to marry that argument to your take on the Avery issue is a little skittish. That’s all.

    I don’t care if Bob Mackenzie masturbates to three-way midget porn, or whether he reported well enough on the trials and tribulations of David Frost. He’s well within his right to voice an opinion on an innocent bystander being publically called a slut.

    Look, I’ve looked at three-way midget porn, been to way too many strip clubs in my younger days, been less than faithful in a handful of relationships, AND STILL I feel it’s within my right to think that publically refering to someone as a used sexual device is wrong. Using a sexual history with someone as a weapon against them is bad news.

  39. Jonathan says:

    For anyone curious, here are the ice-time leaders against Ovechkin tonight-

    Forwards:

    Gagner – 7.2 minutes
    Horcoff – 6.6 minutes
    Cole – 6.4 minutes

    Defensemen:

    Souray – 6.8 minutes
    Gilbert – 6.5 minutes

  40. Dennis says:

    Slipper: it’s good to hear that you don’t judge.

    If we’re ever to become friends in the future, that’s a given!:)

    Quain: I wouldn’t be against paying 5 if he keeps developing. Last year he was an easy mark for weak-side goals and this year he’s pretty much cut that out. Now, you only pay him if he can play top four min and that’s probably not a bad bet.

    Oilers have plenty of decisions to make on the blue, BTW. 37′s doing enough that he’s worth a lot of money to someone and I might not be against giving him 24′s money and showing the vet the door. I think a lot of the d corps Lowe’s built and I think it’s good enough to win a playoff series.

    My problem with the Oil is they don’t use the slot enough and they don’t go to the net enough. For instance, you’ll see my typing a lot of early love for Poultny because he automatically looks to get Into the slot and pass Into the slot. That’s noticeable to my eye because there aren’t a lot of those types on the ’09 Oilers.

    So perhaps we’ll have to trade one of our dmen in order to address that.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Okay. WHERE are we going with this? And WHY are people starting to throw out things like the McKenzie item above? Pretty soon we’ll have a photo of Bob Cole in the can at MLG with a pinup of Karen Magnussen from 1973. Ballard passed out in the other stall, of course.

  42. slipper says:

    Sorry, LT. I’m just trying ot increase the number of unique viewers drawn to your site by search engine results.

    If “+Bob +Mackenzie +three-way + midgets” doesn’t put you over the top, then I’m tapped.

  43. Tyler says:

    Look, I’ve looked at three-way midget porn, been to way too many strip clubs in my younger days, been less than faithful in a handful of relationships, AND STILL I feel it’s within my right to think that publically refering to someone as a used sexual device is wrong. Using a sexual history with someone as a weapon against them is bad news.

    I think we all agree on this. I’m kind of Dennis’ sidekick on this particular point – I’m not as vehement as he is about it but I completely understand where he’s coming from.

    On the grand scale of hockey players (and, more generally, men) doing lousy things to women, calling someone sloppy seconds on TV is pretty far down the list. If McKenzie is out on the town and a married NHLer getting down with some woman who isn’t his wife, or if he hears about it, does he run home to give her a call? Of course not. Is that a whole hell of a lot worse than Sean Avery acting like a douchebag? Assuming that she’s unaware, I’d say it ranks above it on the grand list of sins.

    If McKenzie and the hockey press aren’t willing to touch the stuff that makes them feel a bit dirty or a bit complicit, in that maybe they have a laugh when one of the boys is nailing someone on the side, or they’ve laughed when he’s heard the stories about junior hockey teams and they doesn’t really want to cast aspersions on something that makes TSN a pile of money between Boxing Day and the first weekend in January every year…it really is a bit rich to get all bent out of shape about Sean Avery.

    Was it a terrible thing to say? Sure. The reason that Avery is so easily castigated though is that he’s not one of the boys AND there’s no consequences to the media at large, whether in terms of their own willingness to look the other way or their interest in having junior hockey appear to be as pure as the driven snow. Scapegoat is the wrong word for Avery – he was an easy target. I don’t speak for Dennis but Simmons, for all his faults, he didn’t take on an easy target or a fun topic when he started writing about Frost.

  44. Coach pb9617 says:

    Was it a terrible thing to say? Sure.

    I disagree. Calling her a beat-ass train tunnel would be a terrible thing to say.

    Asking Phanuef “How’s my dick taste?” is a terrible thing to say.

    Telling another man he’s getting sloppy seconds is a small step above “Your mother.”

  45. Tyler says:

    Telling another man he’s getting sloppy seconds is a small step above “Your mother.”

    Doing it via the media is pretty douchey. One thing to say it on the ice, quite another to pull that stunt in front of the media.

    That said, if he wasn’t fucking around on her when he dated her, he’s ahead of a lot of hockey players, gauche comment included.

  46. Kris says:

    Sorry LT to continue the threadjacking.

    Nonetheless, the Dennis/Tyler position against the media really misses the relevance of the fact that Avery’s comments were intentionally made in a public arena. Athletes’ public actions get aprobration from the media, but they get a pass on their private lives -affairs, divorces, etc.- unless they’ve acted criminally. For better or worse, that includes junior players, too.

    This hardly makes the media hypocritical.

    As to the generally abusive, mysoginistic character of junior hockey culture, I don’t think the public is unaware of what goes on, they just don’t care. So a series of stories on junior players being abusive would do little, unless our culture as a whole confronts larger issues about the treatment of women.

    Anyway, I wouldn’t expect anything serious from most of the sports “journalists” in Canada: more gossip columnists than anything.

    (Man I sound dorky.)

  47. quain says:

    I wouldn’t be against paying 5 if he keeps developing.

    Absolutely. If we could get him on a nice value contract with a reasonable expectation he’s the new young Staios, I’d be pretty happy.

    Replacing Staios with Grebeshkov would be pretty fantastic as well. That’s a top five you can go to war with and if Peckham is the real deal we’d be spending the next four years putting a check mark next to the defense at the beginning of every season, which is a good place to be.

    For all the teeth-gnashing this season this roster is in a really nice place. If we had a guy who could make the right decisions more often than not I’d be ecstatic. I’m not ecstatic.

  48. Lowetide says:

    slipper: You’re forgiven. The shine box reference means you’re cool through the Expos season opener. :-)

  49. Alice says:

    Truthfully, I had no idea there was such a thing as this 3-way midget porn. Only trouble is, most of us are too tall for the auditions.

  50. Coach pb9617 says:

    Doing it via the media is pretty douchey.

    Oh certainly. But it wasn’t terrible.

  51. Coach pb9617 says:

    If we had a guy who could make the right decisions more often than not I’d be ecstatic. I’m not ecstatic.

    I bet Grebs has some stuff in his bag that could change that.

  52. Coach pb9617 says:

    Alright, I just watched the game again, seeking out the bad since everyone is so jovial. Bad stuff from tonight:

    Stupid penalties. 67, 18, 78

    Busted D zone coverage. 77, 77, 77, 24.

    Questionable puck decisions. 37, 37, 77, 24

    Horrendous night on the dot again. Cogliano and Gagner need to do nothing but faceoffs in practice for about eighteen months.

    Frickin’ Moreau took another faceoff. Puke.

    Sheesh, outside of the penalties, Brule and Brodziak had really nice games tonight. Brodziak, +4 in 13 mins.

    Wowza – M. Green  30:06

    Other business – Therien has Matt Cooke on the first line with Crosby and Malkin. Puke.

  53. Dennis says:

    Kris: I don’t think the public cares about what Avery said, either. I just think a bunch of media guys decided that Avery’s a bad guy and this was an issue they could really push and they went for it. And when they encountered no resistance from the guy’s own teammates, then they Really went for it.

    Like I said, Billy Tibbetts took less boots and that guy was actually charged.

  54. Dennis says:

    JW: So, Gabby went after 89-26 and showed respect for 27-10. Huddy was hard-matching the D and got GilRay out there and that’s been the Oilers intention as of late.

  55. Coach pb9617 says:

    Oh screw you Calgirls.

  56. slipper says:

    I don’t know, Tyler. That argument you make in that second last paragraph is contingent on a lot of assumptions about Mackenzie’s character, behaviour and motives. You really think he’s a fucking sicko or something, huh?

    Alone, Avery’s remark isn’t nuclear. If you and I were at a wedding reception at the community hall in Indian Head, Manitoba, and I came upto your family’s table and said something about your sister and my sloppy seconds, I think shit would hit the friction-drive ceiling fans they have hanging from the nicotine stained ceilings. Albeit, less shit than if I, along with the aid of some backwater Ontario youth, went on a crystal meth binge and torched your grandparents summer cabin to the ground, or shot your brother in-law in the thigh with a nail gun for selling me season tickets in the terrace to the Hamilton Blackberry’s inaugaral NHL season. But if I truly did utter the name of your sister and the term sloppy seconds within earshot of you and yours, coupled with my repeated requests of the DJ to play back-to-back…. TO BACK, LOverboy singles and I repeatedly sashayed past your table, brushing my turquoise cummerbund in your face while singing along to “Turn me Loose”, than I would be more than due a proper out in the parking lot.

    At this point the testosterone and personal animosity has boiled over; but it remains simply a personal dispute, which you had ample opportunity to settle in that dark and empty parking lot, in that dry, cold Indian Head air. The next day, I’d go to some other buttfuck town further down the highway to get stitches sown into the back of my skull, you’d fly out of Winnipeg back to the Big Smoke and continue managing your big tabacco and blood diamond portfolio, and Indian Head would continue providing heavy lidded motorists 60 dollar a night motel rooms and shady Chinese food with buffet service.

    But things would have unfolded differently had this series of events been sparked a day earlier, say at the ceremony we were both attending, and I had sworn to my family back home, before shuttling to the airport, that I would control my drinking on this trip and therefore I wasn’t so visceral in dealing with conflict; but instead I spent the following afternoon and into the evening drinking instant coffee and eating Esso station powdered donuts (Highway Crack) while plotting some sort of retribution upon you and your hoighty-doighty family. Then it dawned on me! I maded feverish calls to the local AM station in Indian Head, to which I presented myself as a press agent for the Manitoba Agronomists, and promised all residents of Indian Head and surrounding communities a free pot luck at the local community hall the following day, serving local wild rice, slow pulled pork, and complimnentary Fresca.

    We can imagine your surpise the next day when your stretch limo (you and your family got a real kick outta this as you thought it would be ironic!!1!) pulls up to the Indian Head Community Hall. You were anticipating a conservative sized prairie shit kicker, but are confronted with the entire population of the greater area of Indian Head- all 1634 of them! Your jaw is a little slackened, both by the throng of yokels who are glaring at you as if you had grabbed a 1000 pork sandwiches from the mouths of a 1000 hungry hillbillies, and the half dozen rye and gingers you opened your morning with. Just as you have assisted your darling sister from the back of that audacious stretch hummer you’ve rapidly grown to resent renting you and 1635 other sets of eyes take notice of the three biplanes slowly making their way across the near horizon. And what’s this!? As they approach you can slowly make out the words transcribed on the banners trailing behind the planes.

    They read:

    “Tyler’s sister is…”
    “Slipper’s Sloppy Seconds…”
    “Huzzah!”

    But I’m nowhere to be found. All that’s there is one crushed loved one, 1634 sets of crooked smiles and a Joan Hart wannabee form the local access channel asking who is Tyler, and of course what does his sister connote from the term “sloppy seconds?”. I mean, shouldn’t we reserve judgement until Slipper gets a chance to describe what he really meant by the word “sloppy”?

  57. Schitzo says:

    Frickin’ Moreau took another faceoff. Puke.

    I’m glad to see it’s not just Pouliot that he feels superior towards.

  58. Ribs says:

    I missed the first but it looks like that was a good thing. I really wish they would figure that out.

    The second had some nice hockey being played by the Oil. Much of the offense was created by turnovers and some quick movement after the puck was gathered. Guys like Cogliano and Cole and Brule are built for this and they shined tonight.

    Washington looked out of it in the third and thank goodness for that. They do have some dangerous weapons on board.

    The Caps are a top 10 faceoff team this year and the boys won 40% off of them and that can’t be called too bad. They still need a young arm to step up and do some damage here.

    Cogliano and Poo were the guys I was having fun watching this game. Cogliano is all try and he brings it every game. He was battling the monsters tonight and ended up with the puck more often than not and it was very impressive.
    Poo was getting to the open ice and reading plays really well. Once he develops a bit more finish he’s going to be something. I really like his ability to play the cycle and work the give and go on the boards.

    Brule is making Nilsson very get-rid-able. It was funny watching that Caps d-man pick him up and toss him into the boards though.

    Tooty (Potulny) skated well and did his job with the ice time he did have.

    Horcoff Rocks.

    Moreau played some quiet minutes. I guess he only snaps when they’re down some goals?

    I wish Penner wasn’t waiting around for lil’ bud Hemsky to come back before he starts doing something.

    Macintyre with 3:40 ice time and a goal. Nice.

    I figured the Oil had a chance in this one because Ovie’s slumping (as much as he can slump) and I wouldn’t be too suprised if they go on a tear here and win 3 of the next 4 with some good goaltending.

    …Then the All-Star break will take away any momentum they had and they’ll slide for awhile again…..And then the annual push!

    I think I got a too-good visual of Bob McKenzie doing unheard of things from this thread and it’s really very creepy.

  59. Schitzo says:

    Slipper: ?!?!?!?!?

  60. Ribs says:

    Wow.

  61. Coach pb9617 says:

    and complimnentary Fresca

    Naturally. Old people love Fresca.

  62. Ribs says:

    MacT with another Gem….

    “It’s Hockey, it’s hard to figure out at times.”

  63. Tyler says:

    That argument you make in that second last paragraph is contingent on a lot of assumptions about Mackenzie’s character, behaviour and motives. You really think he’s a fucking sicko or something, huh?

    Nah, not at all. I didn’t intend it to come off that way at all.

    Look, I just see what Avery said as being part of the culture of hockey. A few years back, I was in a bar and had some beers with a couple of NHLers. Good guys, we hit it off. They were making the big bucks, we were university students, and they were kind enough to pick up the tab.

    Two things stood out – one, these guys had stories that were just ridiculous. They were unreal. I don’t think I’m particularly naive and I was pretty shocked at some of the stories I was hearing. Two, women were consistently approaching the table, basically saying “Hey, want to fuck?” The guys I was hanging out weren’t stars or anything but the word was out that they were hockey players.

    I know that McKenzie’s a lot more plugged in than I am and I assume that he’s not naive. I’d assume that he’s heard the same stories that I heard that night, only he probably hears a lot more unbelievable ones.

    I guess I assume that McKenzie has the same knowledge that I do. I have a hard time seeing what Avery said as anything more than giving voice to a mindset that’s pretty common. I take your point, and Kris’, but, right or wrong, I see a line of hypocrisy running through the whole thing. It shouldn’t make a difference whether it’s public or private.

    The rest of your post is, of course, awesome, but watch what you say about my blood diamond/big tobacco portfolio.

  64. shepso says:

    All things considered, not a bad effort tonight. Cole gets a trick, Brule 1G, 1A, 4(undisciplined but physical)PIM and vintage Roli game stealing. I like it, and clearly Brule is playing like a kid who wants to stay with the big boys considering his waiver eligibility is done in 7 more games. If he keeps playing like this, we’re going to have to think about what to do with the Poo, Nilsson, Potulny and the other 17 guys in the system that play exactly the same way – with madness inducing inconsistency. I’m about ready to give up on Jesus though. Maybe Brule will turn into a player to make up for the new 1st round bust toiling on the farm. Schremp is done. I can see him getting good money in the KHL for a few years, or riding shotgun with Comrie on long Island. Oh well. Lets hope we can keep the momentum against Minny and the Avs. Lord knows we need the divisional points!

  65. Bruce says:

    Stupid penalties. 67, 18, 78

    Coach: Nice synopsis, except 18 took 0 penalties for 0 minutes tonight. But evidently his reputation precedes him with more than the zebras.

    67 took two bad penalties in the O-zone, and 51 took an accidental but avoidable high-stick at an inopportune moment that put the Oil two men down late in the first. Perhaps for your third bad penalty you were referring to one of those guys?

    Slipper: I bet you got a great mark in your creative writing course. That fictional picture you just painted drew me right in.

  66. Coach pb9617 says:

    Coach: Nice synopsis, except 18 took 0 penalties for 0 minutes tonight. But evidently his reputation precedes him with more than the zebras.

    Dammit, now I have to watch again. I’m looking at my scratch pad and have 18 with a stupid penalty in the first.

    Fast forward to the penalty and…it was Brule. I now wonder what Moreau did that I noted 18.

  67. Coach pb9617 says:

    The comments on this article are awesome.

  68. Rod says:

    Tyler said:
    It shouldn’t make a difference whether it’s public or private.
    —–
    Oh come on. Obviously it makes a difference. Tell us what organization could possibly regulate the private lives of individuals. I’m pretty sure the minute the NHL tried, you’d be all over them for trampling players’ rights. It’s absurd to ignore difference, and rather convenient for your argument.

    Not really sure why I’m responding as slipper and Kris have demonstrated they’re eminently more than capable.

  69. HBomb says:

    Hello inventory….

    Ok, so post All-Star break, at some point, we’ll have full health, or one would hope.

    Penner Horcoff Hemsky
    Nilsson Gagner Cole
    Cogliano Pouliot Pisani
    Moreau Brodziak Brule
    EXT: Stortini, Potulny, Reddox, MacIntyre

    This doesn’t include Strudwick the swing-man. That’s 17 guys who can play the forward spot.

    It’s a nice problem to have, to have some depth, but it’s a problem nonetheless. Who the heck goes back to the minors? Is there anyone they can sneak through waivers? If they can fix the goaltending issue and get down to three guys, they create another spot and ONLY would need to drop two guys…..but still, who?

  70. hunter1909 says:

    It’s official:

    This team is fucking insane.

    Sadly, so are all of us fans.

  71. Jonathan says:

    Incidentally, about the continual gong show that is junior hockey, that’s one area I need to give Ken Campbell of THN a lot of credit.

    He’s written quite a bit of stuff over the years that’s awfully critical of the Canadian junior system, and while it isn’t going to win him friends in the hockey community, it needs to be done.

  72. Yeti says:

    Ok, so post All-Star break, at some point, we’ll have full health, or one would hope.

    That’s quite an assumption for this team.

    Penner was reduced to just under 12 minutes of ice time last night, with less than 2 mins of PP. Did he pick up an injury or is he in the dog house again?

  73. Unleaded says:

    (WSH)-10:00-2-4-1:52-2-0-0:00-0-0
    (STL)-12:36-2-1-3:45-2-0-0:11-0-0
    (VAN)-11:52-6-7-3:16-0-0-0:12-0-0
    (NYI)-13:35-4-5-2:43-0-1-1:08-0-0
    (DAL)-11:24-3-5-3:38-2-0-0:14-0-0

    This is just what MC has on Penner, but it isn’t flattering, and he doesn’t have a point since he got the 3rd goal in the Dallas game. I wouldn’t say he’s in the dog house, but he definitely isn’t getting the results he would like to be. But part of that is his assignment since 83 checked out – he’s on shutdown with 10-XX, and offense is a bonus.

  74. Jonathan says:

    I think Penner’s hurting a bit for icetime because on defensive zone draws (which the 1st line is taking with more regularity) MacTavish wants a second centre, and quite often it’s Penner, rather than Reddox, that gets taken off the ice.

  75. Jonathan says:

    Normally I don’t throw out barely related links, but for the final word on last night’s game, check out this image, courtesy of the evil geniuses behind OilersNation.

    It’s completely worth it.

  76. slipper says:

    Last night Penner wasn’t exactly riding shotgun with Horcoff against Ovechkin and company at evens. The icetime reader on Vic Ferrari’s Timeonice.com site had Gagner and Horc leading the way against Ovi. Horcoff saw him for 6+ minutes while was on the ice against Ovechkin for less than 3 minutes.

    I’m not fellating either 10 or 89. Ovi’s Corsi was +14 at evens and Dennis has him out-chancing the Oilers 8-4. In fact Ovechkin was out for 21 shot events FOR and 7 against, and was +0/-0.

    Just bank those two points and move along.

  77. Jonathan says:

    Ovi’s Corsi was +14 at evens and Dennis has him out-chancing the Oilers 8-4. In fact Ovechkin was out for 21 shot events FOR and 7 against, and was +0/-0.

    Yep, lots of luck there. Most games, some of those go in.

  78. DeBakey says:

    From the Capital’s HF Boards,
    most are cranky about last night’s game,
    all the recent games actually.
    But
    This comment caught my eye:

    I don’t think they need a huge trade. It would be nice to get Nylander off this team, and off the books, but that’s probably a separate issue right now. He was coasting when the team was winning, and he is coasting now. No real difference maker for good or ill at the moment.

  79. Unleaded says:

    Awe, SWEET! Just what we need – and underacheiving Centre! Hey, maybe we could put him out there with Ethan Moreau on the left wing, and Robert Nilsson on the right wing, and we could have a full line of UNDERACHEIVERS!

    The only thing that would make this better would be if we traded Shawn Horcoff to Washington for Mr. Nylander.

    Because then we would have a first line Centre.

  80. quain says:

    Nylander – The center so nice we acquired him twice.

    And, just so you all understand the extent of my mystical powers, let’s recap what I said before the game:

    “Take Edmonton at +190 and parlay it with New Jersey at +120. It’s a sure thing.”

    Of course, I took Pitts and New Jersey as my suicide parlay. If I were a man and added Edmonton I could be responding to this comment thread from Tahiti right now.

  81. Rod says:

    re: Penner

    I wouldn’t be surprised if his knee is still bothering him (see “Penner performing with wonky wheel”). Not very likely it’s healed by now if it was a problem from training camp through mid-December.

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