Blue Jackets at Oilers, G61/08-09

This is Geoff Sanderson as a Swift Current Bronco. He was an original Blue Jacket at the turn of the century and had a nice NHL career as a scorer. The Oilers could use a scorer but have been unable to add one in time for tonight’s game.

Tonight’s huge game.

The Blue Jackets and the Oilers are in a life and death struggle for the playoffs. A win tonight for the Oilers (in regulation) will put them safely inside the top 8 in the western conference, and a regulation loss means Saturday’s game against the Wild would be vital.

These games are huge because of the deadline, the closeness of the standings in the west and the jobs that are on the line in our town.

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  1. Black Dog says:

    Now that is a mullet!

    Lets Go Oilers! clap clap clap clap clap

  2. doritogrande says:

    Beat me to it BD. That’s quite the part in back.

  3. Sean says:

    Sweet lid! Not quite at the level of Jagr but still…

    As for tonights game, I dont fear CBJ as much as the offensive juggernauts in the league but they are tough team to beat especially coming off a loss. The Oilers, like the Blue Jackets both lack offense so expect a 6-5 game.

    Any word on the injuries?

  4. HBomb says:

    Ah, Columbus….everyone loves a Thursday night BJ, right?

    Let’s hope the Oilers play better than Thursday – their win was in such a putrid fashion, I only honored it with a single “clap” and not the usual “clap clap”.

    If Hemsky could only repeat the heroics of the last home game against Hitchcock’s club, that would be spectacular.

  5. oilerdago says:

    Well summed up LT. The emotions at this time of year range from exciting to excruciating when it comes to our boys. A right of passage.

    Needless to say the boys are going to have to eliminate mistakes from Tuesday’s game if they expect to come out of this with a win. Columbus figures to be just as desperate and probably a little mad because the last time they were here they coughed up a 3rd period lead.

    Would be nice if Hemsky would grab the game by the throat tonite.

  6. Alice says:

    Late Feb must-wins vs CBJ.
    I’m with LT on the I-wish-we-were-so-over-this-stretch-run-by-James-Stuarts-fingernails. We’re all gonna die of ulcers, HBomb excepted. He’s going out in style.

  7. Woodguy says:

    CBJ thoroughly outplayed the home town guys last time.

    If Hemsky hadn’t put on his cape and started flying, no way that game is won. They gotta be better to get a sniff tonight.

    I predict more good stuff from Zorg and Cogs tonight, and for Staios to give all the credit to Captain Anvil for that’s line’s success.

    MacT will then declare that Captain Anchor is now their “roving” left winger and play LW for all lines, since all the players play so much better with his “example” on their line.

    Rowboat, Fats and SMAC will arm wrestle on the bench to see who has to work the door. Fats will get a hernia in the process being out 3-4 weeks and MacT will giggle when he announces it in the post-game presser.

    Rowboat will spin around SMAC confusing him, but then forget he’s arm wrestling when he sees a babe and a cocktail in the stands and SMAC breaks Rowboat’s elbow out of frustration.

    MacT says “Kent hasn’t played here for years when asked about it post game.

  8. Unleaded says:

    Well played Woody… well played.

    The only thing I’ve got that comes close to that is: So I heard JDD is going to start tongiht.

    *snicker*

  9. rider guy says:

    As per tsn.ca…

    Penguins trade Ryan Whitney to Anaheim for Chris Kunitz and Eric Tangradi. Tangradi is a big left winger, drafted in the 2nd round in 07 who’s putting up some nice numbers in the OHL.

  10. pboy says:

    BREAKING NEWS:Penguins trade Ryan Whitney to Ducks for Chris Kunitz and Eric Tangradi. As per TSN

    It looks like one of the possible trading partners for Cole is now gone. According to Strachan on Hardcore Hockey, Cole to Carolina for Ruutu is still being talked.

    Obviously, Anaheim must be looking to shop Pronger and/or Neidermayer now that they have brought Whitney in.

  11. Black Dog says:

    Well Niedermeyer is likely done this year or next so they’re starting to retool.

    Good trade for both clubs. Pens get a decent winger and a prospect and move from a poition of strength.

  12. danny says:

    I expected Stan Weir to grab a hold of this one.

    Huge.

  13. DBO says:

    Nice deal for both teams. I wouldn’t be surprised to see pronger dealt now. If you’re Anaheim and neidermeyer wants to come back, you can deal pronger for a few nice, cheap pieces and fit it all under the cap. So who would deal for Pronger?

    So Cole to Carolina as pboy mentioned seems a likely scenario. i would like to see ruutu. he brings a physical game like Cole, with a good amount of talent and we can get him under contract for around $3 – $3.5 mill.

  14. pboy says:

    You have to think this becomes somewhat a buyers market for offensive d-man if you have Kaberle, Pronger and Neidermayer all as possibilities. Bad time to dangle Souray then.

  15. rider guy says:

    Interesting quote from Burke in the Journal this morning regarding trading Kaberle…

    Burke asked Kaberle for a list of teams that he’d waive his NTC for, but insisted that the list have at least 10 teams.

    Burke said “A guy gives me three teams and you’re handcuffed, you can’t make a good deal for a hockey club.”

    The last thing I want to do is cut Lowe any slack for the 5 assets picked up for Pronger, but it’s interesting how Burke’s tune changes when he’s on the other side of the table.

  16. HBomb says:

    Man, I like Kunitz, but I think that the Penguins got robbed blind here. Whitney’s a damn good young d-man signed long-term at a nice cap hit.

    It would be like us trading Gilbert for Kunitz. I could not get behind that.

  17. digger says:

    This game’s going to be like watching a couple of 10 year olds in headgear, windmilling each other on one of those “So you wanna fight” reruns they spool on The Fight Network.

    Not a lot of skill and vaguely unsettling to watch, but you’re entertained despite your better judgment.

    I have no fricking idea which team’s going to win 5-4 tonight.

  18. DBO says:

    looked at a few teams, and the kings are a good spot for pronger. not that I can see rivals dealing with each other, but it makes sense for both need and salary.

    pronger
    for
    O’Sullivan and d prospect (Hickey maybe)

    Kings get a vet top 2 dman, clear the forward log jam and add some grit with the human rake.

    the Ducks get a second line center, free up money to resign neidermeyer and some of their vet UFA’s and get a solid dman prospect in Hickey.

  19. devin says:

    Hbomb, I don’t think Whitney is in Gilbert’s league. That said, the Pens also picked up a fairly touted prospect. They needed to restock their prospect cupboard and with Goligoski and Letang doing a fine job Whitney became very expendable. I actually think this is a good return on Whitney, assuming Kunitz can pot 25+ on Sid’s wing and do his usual solid work on the PK.

  20. Traktor says:

    Tangradi is the key to the deal. I love this move from the Pens perspective. Sharo would have to overpay to find a rental to play on Sid’s wing so he went out and found a 6’4 220 pound stud that can play on Sid’s line the next 10 years. Tangradi wins the Calder next year, you heard here first.

  21. oilerdago says:

    Would think the Ducks trade Pronger to get themselves the offensive help, but there is a danger. It’s no guarantee that Neidemayer comes back for 1 more season.

    A tough position to be in, but they have to make a move to get some offense up front.

    Would think NJ (or someone else in the east) is the most logical partner to deal with though – that way it does not come back to bite them in the playoffs.

  22. Coach pb9617 says:

    The last thing I want to do is cut Lowe any slack for the 5 assets picked up for Pronger, but it’s interesting how Burke’s tune changes when he’s on the other side of the table.

    Do not attempt to change the Lowe screwed up the Pronger trade narrative. He could have landed Ovechkin if only Penner wasn’t so fat.

  23. HBomb says:

    oilerdago: The Ducks also have Beauchemin going to UFA this summer, I believe.

    Tangradi is the key to the deal. I love this move from the Pens perspective. Sharo would have to overpay to find a rental to play on Sid’s wing so he went out and found a 6’4 220 pound stud that can play on Sid’s line the next 10 years. Tangradi wins the Calder next year, you heard here first.

    Traktor, I don’t know much about Tangradi, but this deal looks a lot better from the Penguins perspective if he’s as good a prospect as you’re saying.

    Not to say Kunitz isn’t a good player, but he’s not enough to justify dealing Whitney alone. My running assumption these days is that teams don’t deal their A-list prospects, so if Tangradi pans out in such a fashion, he will fall under “exception to the rule” for that one.

  24. devin says:

    Hbomb – Tangradi was an ANA A-lister. He’s 6’4″ and destroying the O this year. That said, he just turned 20… We shall see.

  25. rider guy says:

    Coach – Not getting Ovechkin had nothing to do with Penner being fat. It had everything to do with Horcoff not being a first line centre and MacT having lost the room.

  26. Traktor says:

    He’s definitely a late bloomer.

    In 06/07 he only had 20 point in the regular season but some late injuries forced him to take a greater role and he shelled out 17 points in 15 playoff games, often being one of the best players on the ice.

    His arrows have been straight up ever since.

  27. shepso says:

    FERNANDO!!!!!!

    according to the Oiler site, Fernando Pisani plays tonight on the third line with Cogs and Captain Stupid, with Huggy Bear returning to 4th line duty with Brodz and Reddox. Does this mean we are overloaded on the roster? All the same, who cares?! FERNANDO!!!!

  28. Black Dog says:

    Anyway you look at it its a nice deal for Pittsburgh. Whitney is a nice player but their strength is on the blueline and they needed to move that contract.

    Kunitz is a nice player and the prospect is blue chip.

    As for Anaheim I would look for them to move Pronger. The return would be better then Niedermeyer.

    They’re starting a rebuild. Selanne and Niedermeyer are almost done. Beauchemin is UFA. The other Niedermeyer is almost done. Pahlsson and Giguere are struggling (injuries and personal issues?)

    Time for the Ducks to turn the page.

  29. mc79hockey says:

    Burke asked Kaberle for a list of teams that he’d waive his NTC for, but insisted that the list have at least 10 teams.

    Burke said “A guy gives me three teams and you’re handcuffed, you can’t make a good deal for a hockey club.”

    The last thing I want to do is cut Lowe any slack for the 5 assets picked up for Pronger, but it’s interesting how Burke’s tune changes when he’s on the other side of the table.

    Do not attempt to change the Lowe screwed up the Pronger trade narrative. He could have landed Ovechkin if only Penner wasn’t so fat.

    I’m confused. Burke is expressly attempting to NOT repeat Lowe’s errors in trading Pronger and somehow that represents an attempt to change the “Lowe screwed up” narrative?

  30. Mustafa Hirji says:

    San Fernando plays tonight. Maybe he’ll deliver us?

  31. relic says:

    BD: sound almost like serendipitous timing for Burke to leave town.

  32. quain says:

    Pisani!

    Good lord, can we please move Moreau and give Pouliot an actual shot? Cogs-Poo-Pies.

    I don’t think terribly highly of MAP, but I’d still like him to get a decent audition at his natural position. Hell, move up Brodziak and put Poo as the fourth line center, I don’t care.

  33. DBO says:

    burke mentioned on one of the hockey shows that he’d only accept a similar return he gave up for pronger. He said a young player who is entering his prime (lupul), a top prospect on the blueline (Smid) and at least a 1st round pick (he gave up 2 1st’s and a 2nd).

    yeah in hindsight Lowe didn’t do well, but that is still a lot to give up. What we did with the picks is our own fault (not to mention mact and Lupul didn’t exactly have a loving relationship).

  34. Coach pb9617 says:

    Coach – Not getting Ovechkin had nothing to do with Penner being fat. It had everything to do with Horcoff not being a first line centre and MacT having lost the room.

    I’ve heard that Ovechkin didn’t want to play with a 3rd line center, so he told Lowe he wouldn’t report.

  35. quain says:

    yeah in hindsight Lowe didn’t do well, but that is still a lot to give up. What we did with the picks is our own fault (not to mention mact and Lupul didn’t exactly have a loving relationship).

    Lowe didn’t do well partly because he acquired the wrong players and especially because he’s aiming for exactly what Toronto is aiming for: young players.. last I checked, Edmonton wasn’t rebuilding.

    The Lupul thing is exactly right though. MacT was such a dick for not playing him on the penalty kill.

  36. Coach pb9617 says:

    Good lord, can we please move Moreau and give Pouliot an actual shot? Cogs-Poo-Pies.

    Forget it. We’re all stuck with Moreau at LW3 no matter what. Accept it and move on – you can call him an idiot and call him out, but he’s there for this year and next.

    It’s like accepting that the psycho chick that always tries to cause shit between you and your girl is going to remain your girl’s friend for awhile.

  37. Scott says:

    I’m interested to see how Pisani does in his return. He wasn’t very good prior to the injury so hopefully the move back to right wing rights the ship. He is 32 years old though, and may be on the downswing.

    As for the Pit/Ana trade, I don’t really like it for Pit unless the prospect turns out. I realize that they soured on Whitney but moving all of that money into the forwards long term means they now have just over 25M tied up in 4 forwards. They’re also locked in to a minimum of 5.5M for the goalies. If the cap moves down to around 50M in the next couple of years that only leaves 19.5M for 7D and 9F. Some of those guys would be cheap anyway, but that’s mighty tight. If I was moving Whitney, I would made sure that I wasn’t taking long-term salary back. Especially at forward.

    For Anaheim, it looks good so long as Whitney turns out and I don’t know that I’d want to make that bet. He had a pretty decent year last year but this season he’s been bad.

  38. Coach pb9617 says:

    For Anaheim, it looks good so long as Whitney turns out and I don’t know that I’d want to make that bet. He had a pretty decent year last year but this season he’s been bad.

    He’s returning from injury. He would have been fine in the east, I don’t know how he’s going to match in the west, especially if the coach wants to use him in any sort of tough match role.

  39. Black Dog says:

    Still waiting for Lupul to hit his prime.

    Then again maybe I blinked and missed it.

    relic – Burke is an ass but he did a pretty good job with the Canucks and while the Ducks were on the rise when he arrived his moves are what put them over the top. The narrative that he is a poor GM or lucky etc etc is people who don’t like him blowing smoke I think.

    As for the Ducks, well they may be on a downturn but the cupboard isn’t bare at all, start with Getzlaf, Perry, Ryan.

    Leafs are in far worse shape but the challenge there – man if he ever won them a Cup he’s be remembered forever.

  40. Alice says:

    /Burke said “A guy gives me three teams and you’re handcuffed, you can’t make a good deal for a hockey club.”/

    Only if the guy on the other end of the phone knows you’re handcuffed. You wind up making the trade with one guy in the end anyhow, and if you can’t make a deal then you keep Kaberle.
    Not sure how this became Kaberle’s problem, to come up with 10 destinations. If I’m his agent I give Burke Mtl, Ottawa and Detroit, so the fans at the ACC get to enjoy him beating them more often.

  41. Unleaded says:

    Coach:

    Actually, Penner didn’t get fat until he was playing for the Ducks. It was all those points that Perry and Getzlaf fed him that got him so fat. So, since he wasn’t a fatty when Lowe traded CFP, that can’t be the reason. It really is just because Horcoff isn’t a … Oh. Riderguy beat me to it. F***.

    Quain:

    I don’t think that Lowe can rebuild. He’s suck in relaod mode, and will be until he looks down the barrel of his gun after it doesn’t fire, says “I could have sworn I just reloaded this…” and proceeds shoot himself in the face.

    also:

    Cogliano, Pouliot and Pisani will never play together. Why? Because people will riot before they cheer about the CPP.

  42. Unleaded says:

    Alice:

    That’s just cruel to Toronto fans. If you want to be an ass, just write Edmonton ten times on a sheet of paper, and see if you can give Burke a stroke.

  43. HBomb says:

    not to mention mact and Lupul didn’t exactly have a loving relationship

    Or to mention the fact that Joffrey Lupul fucking sucks.

    Seriously, I’ll ride MacT for a lot of player mismanagement, but Lupul I’ll give him a pass on. The guy has serious deficiencies as an NHLer, and given the number of trade rumors with his name attached to them, I bet Philly’s regretting signing him to that 4 year, 17 million dollar extension already.

    Mark my words: one of two things happens during that contract period.

    a) Lupul becomes the highest-paid AHL player of all time

    OR

    b) He gets bought out by the Flyers or whatever team they can sucker into taking him.

  44. HBomb says:

    Welcome back 34.

    In tribute of this momentous occasion, I will re-post my signature drink recipe, appropriately named “The Pisani”:

    2 shots Disarrono Amaretto
    1 shot Galliano
    Orangina

    Mix and serve with a maraschino cherry over ice.

    Yes, I’m all about the 3-shot drinks. As I said when someone said to me “on a Monday?” earlier this week…..your point is?

  45. DBO says:

    HBomb: i agree lupul was not a good player. i only mentioned him since at the time everyone in edmonton was excited about a 29 goal scorer, anaheim’s top defensive prospect and a bunch of picks. Might have needed more NHL ready players back, but it’s a solid return prior to them actually playing for us. i wonder when the time will come that we’ll stop complaining that the players we sign or trade for aren’t as good as advertized, and start placing more blame on the offensive black hole that is macT.

  46. Phil says:

    What a pic. Not only the perfect mullet, but the little porn duster ‘stach to go with it (on second look, that may just be bad shading on my monitor…). Old Geoff must’ve got all the ladies.

    I once knew his brother, Grant. He worked as a server at the Earls in Grande Prairie, sometime in the late ’90s. He claimed he was a better player than Geoff, but blew his knee out, and the rest is (not so much) history.

    Say what you will about must win and such, but the Oilers will not get away with going oh-fer on the PP and 2 for whatever on the PK, as is their want lately. They’ll have to be at least even on special teams to have a chance.

  47. St George says:

    I’m interested to see how Pisani does in his return. He wasn’t very good prior to the injury so hopefully the move back to right wing rights the ship. He is 32 years old though, and may be on the downswing.

    Agreed – maybe I am alone, but I gritting my teeth hearing about his return tonight. After the kind of time he has had off, what’s the chance that after he plays we hear anything other than “it was good to get back out there and get the first one over with, I felt a little behind the play and I definitely need to adjust to the speed of the game …” in the post-game interviews. (Which translated means “the third line wasn’t very effective because one third of it was unable to keep up with the play”.)

  48. rider guy says:

    MC – Lowe made a bad deal, everyone knows that except Lowe himself. My only point is that Burke lucked out in that Lowe had to move his best player for pennies on the dollar and Burke won a Stanley as a result. Burke followed up Lowe’s gift with the “based on Kevin’s performance we expect to get an excellent pick” blast and continued to pile on for a year. Now, when it suits him and when he’s not under the gun to have to trade a player his tune changes to insisting that the list include at least 10 teams. Burke’s smart to not limit his options, my comment was just more about what an ass Burke is.

  49. knighttown says:

    Trak:

    Tangradi’s that ass that started the brawl in the US-Canada game by throwing his stick in the face of DiDomenico, right? Hmm…seems he’s more Duck than Penguin, but we’ll see.

    I’ll take your money on the Tangradi for Calder tho. Nikita Filatov please!

  50. HBomb says:

    If we’re starting a pool on the 2010 Calder, dibs on John Tavares.

  51. Traktor says:

    If Ryder can land 4 million after netting 14 goals then Philadelphia will have no problems unloading Lupul’s contract if need be.

    I’d say his value is around a 25-30th overall draft pick right now.

  52. pboy says:

    (Which translated means “the third line wasn’t very effective because one third of it was unable to keep up with the play”.)

    We’ve had 1/3 of that line going offsides for no reason whatsoever, taking multiple stupid penalties and generally playing like asshole all season. How much worse could a rusty St. Fernando be?

  53. DBO says:

    HBomb: Tavares will definitely win it. Especially if he gets picked by Ottawa or Colorado. a team that is having a down year and will have tavares as a second line center. On the island he’ll face top checkers every game, but on a team where he’s a secondary scorer he’ll be able to excel.

  54. Traktor says:

    knighttown:

    I thought that was JVR but I’m probably wrong.

    Cody Hodgson is another good bet. I love that kids game.

  55. Coach pb9617 says:

    Agreed – maybe I am alone, but I gritting my teeth hearing about his return tonight. After the kind of time he has had off, what’s the chance that after he plays we hear anything other than “it was good to get back out there and get the first one over with, I felt a little behind the play and I definitely need to adjust to the speed of the game …” in the post-game interviews. (Which translated means “the third line wasn’t very effective because one third of it was unable to keep up with the play”.)

    The non-believers will perish in the firey eyes of the Archangel Fernando.

  56. reijo29 says:

    Coach pb9617 –
    Agree with you about Moreau he is Mac T'S 3rd line LW, whether we like it or not. Hopefully a week from today we can at least stop talking about trading him until the off season.
    Don't get me wrong I want him out as bad as everyone just tired of talking about trading him when there is a 95% chance he isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

    Scott –
    Good analysis on the salaries in the Pit/Ana trade, this trade doesn't happen if Kunitz & Whitney didn't make similar money, pretty sure ANA regretted giving Kunitz the big deal, just as we often regret Penner's contact. Whitney is better then Kunitz and makes only a little bit more dough requiring ANA to throw in a Top Prospect.

    Final Thought – Cole
    I'm starting to think that he's not going anywhere and that we are going to lose him for nothing (cap space?). If we do trade him I think the only way we get really good value is taking on a contract that someone doesn't want or if we take prospects from a team in the Top 6-8 of the Standings (ie.)Boston).

  57. Matt N says:

    I think if I were Cogliano I would call MacT a c**ks##ker in practice so I could get demoted to the 4th line and have better linemates (Reddox, Brodziak).

  58. reijo29 says:

    Traktor –
    Don’t think anyone gives up a 1st round pick for Lupul unless there is salary coming back a BIG BAD contact (Staios Type).

  59. bookie says:

    If it were up to me, I would trade Double Layer Chocolate Cake for Chocolate Cream Pie, but I don’t think would trade a professionally made Black Forest Cake for Chocolate Cream Pie. One of those crappy store bought BF Cakes though, I would dump for a Cookie.

    Then there are all of the non-chocolate cakes and pies, like Carrot Cake. I would pretty much dump those as long as I could get a slice of something with Chocolate in it. The one thing I would probably consider trading up at the same level as Chocolate Pie would be a really nice Cocunut Cream Pie – that would be tough to pass up at this time of year.

  60. HBomb says:

    From OilersNation, a funny exchange in the dressing room about Pisani’s return”.

    His teammates wasted no time trying to make him feel part of the team again.

    Moreau said jokingly, “It’s easier for him to come back compared to a skilled player.”

    When Mark Connolly and I asked Pisani about that he replied, “He should know. Have you seen the puck after he handles it? It’s chipped up badly,” laughed Pisani.

    Way to fire back at that arrogant asshole of a captain Fernando. Good job.

    Yes, I know they’re all joking around, but anytime I see Moreau get cut down, it gives me a warm and fuzzy feeling.

  61. HBomb says:

    bookie: I like pie.

    That is all.

  62. Sean says:

    Man Pisani is gonna have his work cut out to get his usual 15 goals/season.

    85-51-34 should be the new shutdown. 18-13-46 has been good I’d stick with it.

  63. Jonathan Willis says:

    I’m not sure why we need to continually revisit the Pronger for beans trade, but here’s my two cents:

    1) Lowe got fair value for Pronger
    2) Lowe’s timing was all kinds of screwy and prompted a full-blown rebuild because none of that fair value was ready to contribute right away (with the exception of Zoolander).

    Anyway, my thoughts on the Penguins/Ducks trade. The Coles notes version:

    1) Ryan Whitney’s overrated.
    2) Chris Kunitz is the third-best player on his line
    3) Eric Tangradi seems to be exactly as good as Traktor said a few comments above.

    I like it from the Penguins’ perspective.

  64. Statman says:

    Sanderson could still skate when the Oilers had him… maybe could've popped in some goals given the chance, & coulda been had for cheap.

    jeez, the Oil need to better utilize stats so they can get 20 goal scorers cheaply…. Lowe is definitely not Billy Beane.

  65. hunter1909 says:

    “Way to fire back at that arrogant asshole of a captain Fernando. Good job.”

    That’s what we love about the Oilers. Just one big fat collection of non-scoring “character” players, led by that role player of all time standing behind the bench, ensuring the tradition continues.

  66. Unleaded says:

    Pie… chocolate cake… none of it compares to cheesecake. Especially if it’s alchoholic cheesecake. I’ll trade you two professionally made black forest cakes for one alchoholic cheese cakes any day of the week and gloat about how much I won that trade by for the next 30 years.

    Of course, if you’re talking squares, it s a whole different ball game. Puck game? Some kind of game…

  67. HBomb says:

    Unleaded: squares? Nanaimo bar rules the squares world and everyone knows it.

  68. PDO says:

    There was something in the air that night….

  69. Black Dog says:

    Just like there are dog people and there are cat people there are cake people and there are pie people.

    I have a buddy who never has had pie (insert joke here). Seriously, any occasion, his mom would make cake and that’s how he grew up.

    Me on the other hand. I love fucking pie. Butterscotch, tortiere, apple, blueberry, banana cream. Bring it on.

    Pie person. Dog person.

  70. PDO says:

    Who needs cake when you have Piesani?

    Okay… that was a bit much.

  71. Black Dog says:

    Last year when he came back from his illness Fernando had a real nice game. Actually he played quite well for a while before he hit the wall, iirc.

    I think he scores, um, eight tonight.

    And he knocks Rick Nash out cold with an elbow.

  72. Black Dog says:

    And then he makes love to Natalie Portman at centre ice while the crowd roars.

    The blind can see. The lame can walk. The stupid throw out their Flames jerseys.

    Bettman walks out and presents the Cup then and there. Why delay the inevitable?

  73. HBomb says:

    BDHS: Is it OK to be a “dessert” person and an “animal” person.

    I like cats and dogs, I also like cake and pie. I have a HORRENDOUS sweet tooth for baked goods.

  74. Oilman says:

    you might think the “pie” puns are a little much here today but just wait till Principe starts on them tonight. $10 says he takes a cream pie in the face and then makes an off-color remark about Fernando and the BJ’s.

  75. HBomb says:

    $10 says he takes a cream pie in the face and then makes an off-color remark about Fernando and the BJ’s.

    Somewhere, a line just got crossed.

  76. Oilman says:

    You know what else everybody likes? Parfaits. Have you ever met a person, you say, “Let’s get some parfait,” they say, “Hell no, I don’t like no parfait”? Parfaits are delicious.

  77. Black Dog says:

    hbomb – you can be whatever you want man, that what makes this such a great country

    I don’t mind cake. I like it. But if I have a choice 100 times out of 100 I’m taking pie over cake.

    You know what’s good shit – tarts. Of course they’re just dwarf pies really. Still, show me somebody who doesn’t like butter tarts and that person would be the fist I have ever met.

    As for cats, they love me but at best I tolerate them. Drown them in the sink I say.

  78. Coach pb9617 says:

    Me on the other hand. I love fucking pie. Butterscotch, tortiere, apple, blueberry, banana cream. Bring it on.

    Me and you BD. I get Birthday Pie, not cake. Always have. Cake is annoying, even in cup form, though brownies are edible at times.

  79. pboy says:

    you might think the “pie” puns are a little much here today but just wait till Principe starts on them tonight. $10 says he takes a cream pie in the face and then makes an off-color remark about Fernando and the BJ’s.

    hahahahahahahah

  80. Jonathan Willis says:

    Robin Brownlee just reported that Steve Tambellini was unhappy with the trade between the Penguins and Ducks today.

    The reason? Apparently he was making inquiries about Chris Kunitz.

  81. pboy says:

    I guess I can stop worrying about losing any weight considering I like pies, cakes, parfait’s AND tarts…..now I’m hungry.

  82. Black Dog says:

    Cake is for children. Pie is for adults.

  83. Scott says:

    Robin Brownlee just reported that Steve Tambellini was unhappy with the trade between the Penguins and Ducks today.

    The reason? Apparently he was making inquiries about Chris Kunitz.

    This news makes me very happy about the trade between the Penguins and Ducks today.

    In other news, I don’t like butter tarts. My dad loves them. He’s thinking about writing me out of the inheritance.

  84. LittleFury says:

    Pecan pie is the Fernando Pisani of baked goods. When it’s good, it’s great and when it’s great…oh God…

  85. Ender says:

    I think it’s funny to say “insert joke here” about a person who’s never had pie, and follow it up with “I love fucking pie.”

    Too much info man; too much. ;)

  86. gary b says:

    one of the (few) good reasons to go to Calgary is to visit the Village Bistro (formerly Village Hearth & Terrace) in Inglewood, who make some mean tasty pies from scratch. Flapper pie, sour cream pie, the best key lime pie ever…

  87. Alice says:

    I’m waiting for Hbomb’s ‘pie’ recipe,

    Two “shots” Blueberry pie
    One “shot” Pistachio ice cream
    3 Cherries
    1 2×2 Nanaimo bar
    1 mickey Yukon Jack (that’s how you buy them, right?)
    7 orange tic-tacs

    Blend and serve.

  88. hunter1909 says:

    Has anyone ever sat Kevin Lowe done and asked him in depth, about how he’s totally fucvked up the Oilers future, as certainly as it was pre-CBA with his drunk irishman contracts?

    Not actually along those lines of course, since we all know just how Kevin is uber sensitive about these matters and all, but, you know, just kinda raised the issue?

    note: The term ‘fuckved’ started off life as a typo, but looks too good to correct.

  89. hunter1909 says:

    fucvked*

  90. Traktor says:

    “Traktor -
    Don’t think anyone gives up a 1st round pick for Lupul unless there is salary coming back a BIG BAD contact (Staios Type).”

    I can see a team like the Islanders trading the Sharks 1st to Philadelphia in the summer for Lupul.

    He has some deficiencies but 4 million for a young 25+ goal scorer is market rate.

    He might not look the greatest on behindthenet but GM’s don’t care about that – Malik couldn’t even find work and behindthenet said he’s a number 1 defender.

  91. reijo29 says:

    I’m a little concerned about the fact that Tambo was supposedly seriously looking at Kunitz as I think he would likely be a step down from Penner and we all know how great a value Penner has been.
    Do we need another average forward making 4 million a year on a LT deal?
    JW – Can you at some point do a Penner/Kunitz comparison? Gilbert/Whitney?

  92. mc79hockey says:

    When Mark Connolly and I asked Pisani about that he replied, “He should know. Have you seen the puck after he handles it? It’s chipped up badly,” laughed Pisani.

    This could be so much fun, coming up with fake responses –

    When Mark Connolly and I asked Pisani about that he replied, “That actually kind of hurts a little bit. Maybe if I get a penalty tonight, I’ll talk to him about it while we’re in the penalty box,” laughed Pisani.

  93. Coach pb9617 says:

    You know what else everybody likes? Parfaits. Have you ever met a person, you say, “Let’s get some parfait,” they say, “Hell no, I don’t like no parfait”? Parfaits are delicious.

    I get a fruit, granola, yogurt parfait for breakfast every morning. The wife is a good one.

  94. Coach pb9617 says:

    the best key lime pie ever…

    You post like an MSM reporter writes.

  95. Coach pb9617 says:

    JW – Can you at some point do a Penner/Kunitz comparison?

    Penner nukes Kunitz from orbit.

    Then he sits on him.

  96. CrazyCoach says:

    The only “Pie” I ever heard of was Johnnie “Pie” Mackenzie.

    Look him up you young bucks. He played with Bobby Orr.

    That said, who cares about the Ducks.

    Go Oil!

  97. Traktor says:

    “Has anyone ever sat Kevin Lowe done and asked him in depth, about how he’s totally fucvked up the Oilers future”

    He may of fucked up the past but you’re an idiot if he think he fucked up the future.

    We have a solid core and one of the best prospect stables in the NHL. We’re in better shape moving forward then most teams.

    Souray, Visnovsky and Gilbert could all be moved in a heartbeat for qualify assets.

    Penner despite what sheep say does not have negative value. He could be moved for a positive return. At the worst of times he’s a 20 goal scorer that makes life easy on his linemates.

    The only contracts that could be argued as immovable are Staios, Moreau and Horcoff and to be honest I could see a GM like Jacques Martin chomping at the bit to get his hands on 10. Moreau has only has 1 year left on his contract after this season and we’re basically left with only Staios’s contract that could really have a negative impact in the future.

    Lowe has assembled one of the best draft tables in the league. Omark, Hartikainen, Peckham, Kytnar, Vande Velde all look like astute late round picks. Granted we don’t have any real elite prospects but who does?

    The one thing that Lowe needs to be given credit for is leaving the franchise in good condition moving forward.

  98. quain says:

    Now, do the Ducks play Bobby Ryan with Getz-Perry going forward? I mean, Ryan seems like an honest to God player… don’t they want to keep inflating the stats of mediocre wingers to trade?

  99. HBomb says:

    He might not look the greatest on behindthenet but GM’s don’t care about that

    Yep, all they care about is boxcars. Great way to win a hockey pool, lousy way to try and win the Stanley Cup.

    I’d bet hard cash the good GM’s look at stuff like BTN-style stats when making decisions.

  100. oilerdago says:

    JW, am just jumping in but I wonder if the Pitt/Ana trade makes it even more likely that the next move for Ana is Pronger or Niedemayer to Calgary?

  101. rananda says:

    Pie person. Dog person.

    Here here.

  102. HBomb says:

    Traktor, two things:

    1) Moreau’s got two years left after this year, not one.

    2) Why would one move Gilbert “for assets”? Given his age and contract, he’s one of the last guys I’d move (only Hemsky and Gagner I’d hold onto tighter if I were GM).

  103. jon k says:

    I really like today’s trade from Pittsburgh’s perspective.

    Tangradi is a legit topline prospect on the left side no less, and Kunitz will immediately and in the future help with their most glaring problem: depth at wing.

    Whitney has been the Penner of Pittsburgh’s defense since he signed his contract extension: Perpetually criticized for being soft and lazy.

    While you can maybe forgive those faults somewhat with a left winger whose underlying numbers are good, it doesn’t pass muster nearly as easily on defense. His value in this trade was not affected by his performance after coming back from injury as much as others might believe, in my opinion.

    The other result of this trade is that we get a glance of Tom Gilbert’s trade value on the open market this offseason. Not bad.

  104. Traktor says:

    “I’d bet hard cash the good GM’s look at stuff like BTN-style stats when making decisions.”

    All the contractual evidence suggests otherwise.

  105. jon k says:

    He might not look the greatest on behindthenet but GM’s don’t care about that

    Yep, all they care about is boxcars. Great way to win a hockey pool, lousy way to try and win the Stanley Cup.

    I’d bet hard cash the good GM’s look at stuff like BTN-style stats when making decisions.”

    Agreed. Given that good player agents openly admit that they seek better deals for their players by looking into underlying or abstracted statistics, it is a good assumption that some GMs do the same. (Especially in light of the fact that some GMs are ex-player agents.)

  106. gary b says:

    the best key lime pie ever…

    You post like an MSM reporter writes.

    check that, the best key lime pie I’VE ever had…

  107. doritogrande says:

    Mark my words: one of two things happens during that contract period.

    a) Lupul becomes the highest-paid AHL player of all time

    Curtis Joseph when he was with the Red Wings. They buried his 8-Million salary in the Grand Rapids a couple of times if memory serves when he was getting out-played by another 8-M goalie in Hasek. Both of whom were being outplayed by one Manny Legace who has since been unceremoniously dumped to the minors.

    Man, have they ever had good goaltending?

  108. Traktor says:

    “Why would one move Gilbert “for assets”? Given his age and contract, he’s one of the last guys I’d move (only Hemsky and Gagner I’d hold onto tighter if I were GM).”

    I’ve seen people suggest that Gilbert has a horrible contract which would imply that he has negative value. Personally he’s the last defender I trade with Visnovsky and Grebeshkov the only possibilities. You can’t trade Souray unless you bring in someone just as mean. The guy commands a ton of respect out there.

    As for Moreau, it could be worse. I think there’s a chance some team with cup aspirations makes a play for him – although MacT would veto any such deal.

  109. jon k says:

    I love fucking pie.

    Let’s try to keep it PG13 BD, okay?

  110. HBomb says:

    Traktor: If this team had more balls throughout the lineup, Souray’s the obvious guy to offer up in trade.

    Since they don’t, I think Visnovsky is vulnerable, but not right now. If after July 1st, they somehow make rumor into fact and land Bouwmeester, Visnovsky plus a couple other assets for a big-time forward would make sense.

    And if ALL they did at the deadline was ditch Moreau and Staios for a couple of 7th rounders or failed prospects, I’d do backflips and drink my weight in dark rum.

  111. Coach pb9617 says:

    I’d bet hard cash the good GM’s look at stuff like BTN-style stats when making decisions.

    How in the world do you figure this? I can’t see a franchise that consistently rewards the positive ES, Corsi, outscore guys in lieu of guys with bright shiny boxcars.

    Detroit doesn’t count in this example – everyone that plays there turns into a great player.

  112. Coach pb9617 says:

    check that, the best key lime pie I’VE ever had…

    You need to get yer butt to the Florida Keys right now!

  113. heed says:

    pisani tonight.

    grebs on the weekend.

    christmas came really early this year.

  114. Coach pb9617 says:

    You can’t trade Souray unless you bring in someone just as mean. The guy commands a ton of respect out there.

    In a year or so you can if Smid and Peckham develop. Neither one seem to be happy people.

  115. hunter1909 says:

    “He may of fucked up the past but you’re an idiot if he think he fucked up the future.”

    Riight. I’m an idiot because I think Lowe fucked up the future.

    Just because Oilers aren’t even in the playoffs with one of the highest cap hits in the NHL, just because they’ve got probably 20 percent of their budget sewn up overpaying Staios, Moreau, Penner, Horcoff and Pisani,

    Just exactly who are these great prospects? Rita? Schremp? Dubnyk? Jacques?

    Ever since I started college all I remember about the Oilers is how they’re up and coming, because of their great prospects. “Just wait, just wait”, lol.

    You’re very lucky Traktor, you really are. You get to dream of a golden rosy tomorrow, blissfully unaware of the old Yiddish expression ‘tomorrow never comes’.

  116. Steve says:

    Still, show me somebody who doesn’t like butter tarts and that person would be the fist I have ever met.

    Those are the ones with the raisins, right? I’ll pass. Pecan tarts, on the other hand…

    This could be so much fun, coming up with fake responses –

    Ooh, let me try:

    When Mark Connolly and I asked Pisani about that he replied, “Jesus Christ, what an asshole thing to say…and from the worst fucking Oilers captain since Shayne Corson, too. What a piece of shit. Jesus.”

  117. Traktor says:

    “Riight. I’m an idiot because I think Lowe fucked up the future.”

    Either that or purposely ignorant. I’m fairly confident in that.

    “Just because Oilers aren’t even in the playoffs with one of the highest cap hits in the NHL, just because they’ve got probably 20 percent of their budget sewn up overpaying Staios, Moreau, Penner, Horcoff and Pisani.”

    I know a sheep when I see one. That’s why I addressed your points before you even brought them up.

    “Just exactly who are these great prospects? Rita? Schremp? Dubnyk? Jacques?”

    I specifically mentioned that we don’t have any elite prospects but Gagner, Cogliano, Omark, Eberle, Peckham, Petry, Nash, Plante, Brule is a pretty nice crop of young players. Any idiot can point out an organizations misses. Good job.

    “Ever since I started college all I remember about the Oilers is how they’re up and coming, because of their great prospects. “Just wait, just wait”, lol.”

    OMG, lol, that’s so funny, lol.

    “You’re very lucky Traktor, you really are. You get to dream of a golden rosy tomorrow, blissfully unaware of the old Yiddish expression ‘tomorrow never comes’.”

    I’m hardly painting a picture of Stanley Cups here. The difference is unlike you I can acknowledge that this is the best shape the organizations been in since Messier was in town. Kind of contrary to the notion that Lowe fucked up our future.

  118. DBO says:

    Not sure if it’s been mentioned, but TSN Alert
    was telling people that pronger was dealt to the Leafs for Antropov, Stajan and picks. mackenzie says it’s not done, but I can see the Leafs dealing for him.

  119. Traktor says:

    Ossi Vaananen was just waived.

    He’s a UFA that only making 1 million and he brings size and grit on the back end.

    -0.03 QC
    0.12 QT
    30 GFON
    22 GAON

    He’s probably a better option than Peckham if this team wants to make some noise down the stretch. Possibly even a Staios replacement.

    I think we should claim him.

  120. gary b says:

    Steve Begin traded to the Stars for Doug Janik.

    c’mon OIlers brass, get in on the fun!

  121. Black Dog says:

    here here on the key lime pie in the Keys coach

    steve – they don’t have to have raisins in them, the recipe I use doesn’t call for them

    uh, yeah

    how about that Peckham?

  122. shep says:

    I’d bet hard cash the good GM’s look at stuff like BTN-style stats when making decisions.

    Minnesotas GM uses them, mentions EVG/60 in midseason report.

  123. gary b says:

    yeah, raisins completely unnecessary in butter tarts. filling is very similar to pecan pie, actually (Minus the pecans, of course) – eggs, sugar, vanilla, butter.

    i think i need to find some before puck drop.

  124. Mr DeBakey says:

    Ossi Vaananen was just waived.

    I hope they have the sense to grab him, he appears to be exactly what they need

    Oilers aren’t even in the playoffs with one of the highest cap hits in the NHL

    “Projected Final Salary” for the Oilers is $54,616,908.
    15th in the NHL

    Just say NO to pie
    unless its stuffed full of spicy pork,
    or steak ‘n’ mushrooms

  125. Unleaded says:

    Fools… FOOOLS!

    Cheese + Desert

    I mean seriously… you would actually take pie over that?!

    Even if you ahve some good cheddar with apple pie… it just isn’t the same…

    I was there to watch Oilers fans riot on white avenue during the cup run. I was there whe people burned Pronger’s funiture in disgust over what he had done. I have seen all of those things, and truely I tell you, this is the day that I am most ashamed of my fellow Oilers fans…

    Pecan pie and butter tarts are pretty fucvkin’ good though… especially with actual whipped cream, and not that cool whip crap.

    Also, nanaimo bars are definitely the western conference champions of the bar world, but until I can say that they would beat out the best of 30 different other squares, I can’t really call them the champions.

    Why do I all of a sudden think that an Edmonton Oilers draft party should be organized as a “Battle of the Deserts” party? Everyone who came would leave 5-10 pounds heavier, yet I’m sure that everyone would also leave much happier than they came in too…

  126. hunter1909 says:

    “I’m hardly painting a picture of Stanley Cups here. The difference is unlike you I can acknowledge that this is the best shape the organizations been in since Messier was in town. Kind of contrary to the notion that Lowe fucked up our future.”

    As that typically grandiose remark of yours doesn’t look in any way shape or form to resembling let alone actually winning the cup, it means nothing to me. Particularly your name-dropping of the Messier era. Back in those days the team actually mattered in the springtime. These days and in the forseeable future, Oilers don’t look like winning a thing.

    Feel free to attack me, btw. You can’t bullshit a bullshitter, as they say.

  127. gary b says:

    there’s a place in town here that makes those marshmallow peanut butter squares.

    don’t tell Dustin Penner, though (that stuff goes straight to your ass).

  128. Doogie2K says:

    Still, show me somebody who doesn’t like butter tarts and that person would be the fist I have ever met.

    Right here.

    I’m a cake and brownie man, mostly, though I’ve grown an appreciation for pies and turnovers as my tastebuds have matured. Still, the real secret to dessert bliss is homemade gingerbread, fresh from the oven with melted butter on it. Mmmmm…

    (And I’m a cat person, too. Pattern?)

    Man, have [the Red Wings] ever had good goaltending?

    Terry Sawchuk?

    But seriously, Hasek, Osgood, and Vernon all had their moments when winning Cups, and Joseph was far from being the problem when they lost to Calgary in ’04, but they were never the best players on the team, if that’s what you’re asking. Conklin’s been great this season.

    TSN Alert was telling people that pronger was dealt to the Leafs for Antropov, Stajan and picks.

    That would be hilarious, just because you know Lauren’s going to demand a trade again this summer.

    Steve Begin traded to the Stars for Doug Janik.

    Who the hell is Doug Janik?

  129. Unleaded says:

    there’s a place in town here that makes those marshmallow peanut butter squares.

    don’t tell Dustin Penner, though (that stuff goes straight to your ass).

    Hang on… if all we want Penner to do is screen the goalie… don’t we want him to have a huge-er ass? As long as he still has good hands… Hey! Maybe would set up some kind of reward system to train him… every time he tips a shot in, he gets a piece of desert…

    Gary, you may have found the secret to getting Dustin to the next level! Jonathan – we need to you get word to MacT – the secret to motivating Dustin is… Food. Get on it!

  130. Unleaded says:

    Oh, and on a related note, I'm a Dog person. So this trend of yours of Cats=Cakes & Dogs=Pies is OUT THE WINDOW!!! Mua ha ha ha ha…

    …Oh, the window doesn't open?…Fucvk…

  131. Black Dog says:

    LT is going to shit when he finds out that his blog has become The Better Homes and Gardens Cookbook Blog.

  132. Icecastles says:

    I propose a new song for post game celebration.

  133. gary b says:

    given the direction of today’s thread, this might be more appropriate.

  134. Icecastles says:

    Garyb – I think that’s a video of Staois tlaking about how Moreau is such a strong player and help to Cogliano. :)

  135. Dennis says:

    Trak: Nice eye on the Vaananaan, fuck the spelling:) waive.

    Seriously, why not pick up this guy for depth and then in turn farm out 49? 5-37-44-77 as our top four and Ossi-24 as our bottom pairing; 43 as the 7th D. Ossi’s a bonafide plus player and he’s experienced and I can’t understand why we’d even get a chance at him on waivers but I guess stranger things have happened.

    Seriously, why wouldn’t just about anyone in the hunt pick him up for the run?

    The Oilers picking him off the wire seems to make more sense than dealing away 78 for comparatively nothing and the only way you don’t pick up Ossi is if you’d rather keep 49 around and play him with an eye towards 2010.

    Personally, I’d go with the bonafide vet. But maybe a little of what we pick up will have to do with how 37 looks on the PP when he comes back. The Oilers need some help back there and if Denis doesn’t look up to it, then maybe 78′s dealt for an old young Andy Delmore-type.

    Pit deals from depth considering Letang and Gologoski are coming along as puckmovers and Whitney doesn’t seem to be developing all-around. Kunitz looks to be overpaid but maybe that’s what a 25 goal scorer gets paid like these days. I guess you can keep hoping that guys will do it on the cheap or on their entry level deal but considering we have a 2 mill cap-hit on 12, would paying 1.5 mill more for dependable goal-scoring be that bad?

    In any case, Kunitz has scored goals playing with lesser pivots than Sid so he should be able to get something going with the Nova Scotian.

    Or at least that would be my bet.

    Now, the next thing the Pens have to do is get rid of Staal’s pact and they can begin to breathe again.

    Scott: 34′s back tonight and he was on some odd lines earlier this year but he was actually righting the ship chances-wise before he went down. I know you’ve kept some files so do you have a game-by-game look at how he was doing just before he was hurt?

    Oilers are right in the middle of trading now with the 15-6-2 format of F-D-G.

    I’d suspect 78′s moved out for a D and that 12 could go for Guerin.

    MacT didn’t seem to want to talk much about him today and you get the feeling he Definitely won’t last past the summer.

    Finally, As a comparative tool, here’s the chances for/against the last time the BJ’s came to visit:

    http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3042#comments

    Summary: Oilers didn’t play well in the least but 83 rose above to steal it.

  136. Steve says:

    LT is going to shit when he finds out that his blog has become The Better Homes and Gardens Cookbook Blog.

    At risk of furthering the trend, tell me more about this raisinless butter tart recipe.

  137. Dennis says:

    Trak: BTW, I can’t see any reason whatsoever why someone would give up a 1st rounder for Lupul.

    Unless of course that team had a couple of first round picks to spare And he only had a year left on his contract And the team needed to get to the floor.

    Other than that, he’s golden;)

    Seriously, though, the guy can’t play the toughs, he can’t kill the soft And he’s about to make 4.25 mill.

    Garbage.

  138. Lowetide says:

    I haven’t seen Carrot cake mentioned yet. The guy or girl who invented carrot cake deserves the No-fucking-bel.

    One of the reasons I married my wife is her pie crusts. They’re tremendous! When I’m done there’s bits all over but it’s sublime. I would have married her even if I hadn’t liked her.

    Seriously.

    Best pie? Apple, with nippy cheese for the hand at the ready.

  139. Lowetide says:

    As for trades, I heard something about Frolov today. I’d back the truck up for that guy,give them everyting bubbling under and make most of the roster available too.

  140. boopronger says:

    I dont understand why anyone would like the trade from pitts perspective. Sure they need depth at wing but their defense is a much bigger problem and they just traded away one of their better d men. They are having the same problem the oilers did that one year when they didnt have any defensemen who could move they puck to the forwards.

    Then they get Kunitz in return?? Why not just sign Malone in the summer who is better than Kunitz anyway and not have to trade away Whitney?

    Makes no sense to me.

  141. HBomb says:

    Dennis: who are you saying won’t last the summer, Nilsson or Pouliot?

    Nilsson’s improved greatly the last month, he had a so-so game Saturday, and MacT specifically fingered him for poor performance (after no comment for weeks).

    I hope Row-Bear is a part of this organization much longer than Craig MacTavish at this point.

  142. HBomb says:

    Lowetide: carrot cake without cream cheese icing is like Corey Perry without Ryan Getzlaf – utterly fucking worthless.

    That’s all I’ve got on that topic….

  143. gary b says:

    LT: really? what would it honestly take to get Frolov here? Gagner and Gilbert? more?

    another sweet treat i miss now that i don't live in Etown?

    'Sonhos' from the Portuguese bakery on 118th Ave. light, fluffy, cinnamon & sugar donut-y things. next time you're whizzing past on your way somewhere, pop in for one. especially between 7-8am. when they are fresh out of the oven. i believe sonhos means 'dreams' in Portuguese, and believe me, these are that.

  144. HBomb says:

    Lowetide – something about Frolov in general, or specifically tied to the Oilers?

    Because if it’s the latter, I might go on the drinking bender to end all drinking benders in celebration.

  145. HBomb says:

    For the cake sector, if you’re ever in Calgary – “Crave” bakery for cupcakes. Words cannot describe….

  146. Oiler Mag says:

    “Ossi Vaananen was just waived”

    09-Mar-04 Phoenix Coyotes traded Chris Gratton, Ossi Vaananen and a 2nd round selection to the Colorado Avalanche for Derek Morris and Keith Ballard.

    on the same day as the Gilby trade. Ouch, with salt on.

  147. Lowetide says:

    HBomb: I think the icing comes with the carrot cake, if it doesn’t then bring back the death penalty.

    As for Frolov, nothing specific to Edmonton but I think it was tsn who mentioned him as being a possible trade item.

  148. DBO says:

    Frolov would be sweet. What would it take?

  149. HBomb says:

    Frolov would be sweet. What would it take?

    I’d put anyone outside of Hemsky, Gagner, and Gilbert in play.

  150. Dennis says:

    HB: I mean 12 won’t last through the summer.

    As my father would say, you can see it sticking out. The Oilers need to move a D to pick up a forward and then they’ll move a forward to pick up a D. And it will have to be someone that’s making money but yet someone who’s still making a small enough amount that teams would take him.

    Think Raffi from last year.

    So, to be topical, Oilers sign 37 to give them 4 D who are getting paid but then they deal 71 back to LA for Frolov.

    Then they deal Nilsson for a similarly priced D who’ll round out their backend.

    LT: I can’t think of any reason why the Kings would deal Frolov unless he said he doesn’t want to stay there. When I’m looking at his stats now, though, it seems like he’s the 83 of LA. He doesn’t get to the PPG level and you’re always left wanting more.

    So, considering Lowebellini’s dealt with LA in the past, there’s always a chance he’ll go back but I don’t know how we’d link up.

    Unless Souray wants to be closer to his kid…..

  151. B.C.B. says:

    Does anyone have a site that is streaming the game tonight. There seems to be no hockey on ATDHE?

  152. Black Dog says:

    Yeah I can’t see them moving Frolov but they moved Cammelleri, didn’t they? Of course he was struggling with injuries and had a poor year too.

    If Nilsson survives the season and MacT does not I would be interested to see the next step.

    I’m not arguing that a lot of MacT’s whipping boys piss me off with their inconsistency. Nilsson, Penner, Pouliot. But the bias is just so apparent. I wonder how they would do under a different hand.

    Penner got a lot of grief from Caryle too of course.

    LT – right on about the carrot cake.

  153. Mike says:

    Mother Webb’s in Antigonish NS – a truck stop “steak” house – serves a coconut cream pie that you can’t see over. Fan-phucking-tastic.

  154. bookie says:

    Pie… chocolate cake… none of it compares to cheesecake. Especially if it’s alchoholic cheesecake. I’ll trade you two professionally made black forest cakes for one alchoholic cheese cakes any day of the week and gloat about how much I won that trade by for the next 30 years.

    First, that was obvious, but I could never trade for cheesecake cause of my Calorie Cap. You have to think of the cap nowadays, its not the 1990′s when you could supersize your burgers and then eat a pound of baconchocolate just for fun.

    Second – I think I win the Razzie for Threadjack of the year with this Cake/pie thing!

    Third – when is Tambo going to make a trade so we have something more relevant to talk about?

  155. Traktor says:

    Dennis:

    I think a team like the Islanders who can only sign guys past their prime would look at Lupul as an attractive option.

    This is a team that signed Mike Comrie to 4 million to be their #1C.

    Can he handle tough minutes? Maybe not, but he’s successful on the PP – 5.27 PPP/60, and he can put up numbers playing lesser opps.

    Lupul to Long Island for the Sharks 1st in the summer makes a ton of sense for both clubs. Or I could be out to lunch.

    Edmonton is out to lunch if they don’t claim Ossi. It’s a no-brainer if this team is serious about making a playoff push. It’s also a no-brainer to claim him if we decide to be sellers and move some veterans. It’s insurance any way you slice it.

  156. Traktor says:

    I don’t think the kings move Frolov unless they get a better or similar talent in return – they’re stocked to the brim when it comes to prospects so cross out any thoughts of a 3 for 1. Factor that in and we have nothing to offer.

  157. Black Dog says:

    I’m watching the Islander/Leafs game right now and the Isles make the Leafs look like the Wings.

    What Snow has done that I like (and the Blues do it as well) is make deals like they did with Comrie. Guerin is another. Fedotenko last year. They give these veteran guys big money for a year or two to hold the fort while they bring in the kids. Its smart. They’re overpaying but the contract comes off the books quickly.

    I think that we’re finding out that few contracts can’t be moved. I think that the worry about Staios and Moreau is misplaced; those contracts are very moveable.

    Its the contracts like Briere, Gomez and Drury that look to be the killers. When Philly signed Briere I wondered what they were thinking. I guess they figured the cap would go up by massive amounts every year but they struggled to get under it last year (and couldn’t add D depth because of it) and now this year they’re waiving two guys to try and get Briere into the lineup.

    They need goaltending. They still need D.

    I like what Holmgren has done but that Briere contract was dopey as hell.

    Anyways I think Lupul is complete garbage but they can move him, I think. And the Isles are a reasonable destination.

  158. Black Dog says:

    Steve – well you can go with any butter tart recipe really and just omit the raisins if there are any.

    http://bakingbites.com/2007/10/butter-tarts/

    I make mine using an old Betty Crocker cookbook we have but that link or most anything will likely do. Do the crust from scratch. That’s the way to go.

    Now excuse me while I go lay down. My vagina hurts. ;)

  159. Traktor says:

    Campoli with 4 points in 2.5 games now. I think he’s going point per game the rest of the season just to crush any last remaining Islander fans.

  160. relic says:

    @BCB

    apparently the NHL cracked down atdhe, there’s yahoo but you need a proxy if you’re in the great white north.

  161. Fake Craig McTavish says:

    Speaking of pie.

    Teddy’s on Jasper Avenue (is it still there?) was the purveyor of the finest flapper pie known to man for many a year.

  162. gary b says:

    Columbus announcer just referred to something called “the Sea BJ”.

    those sailors are a saucy bunch.

  163. Bob Arctor says:

    Does anyone have GameCenter live and is able to watch this game?

  164. hockeyfan says:

    one of either vanek or smyth are coming to edmonton. you heard it here.

  165. Icecastles says:

    I wonder what kind of pie 27 likes. I bet he’s not picky…

  166. Bruce says:

    Wow, 170+ comments before puck drop.

  167. doritogrande says:

    Pisani survives his first shift, and Moreau doesn’t take a penalty.

    Breathes.

  168. Icecastles says:

    Oh is it on already? Shit.

  169. oilerdago says:

    DG: It’s still early for Moreau. Give him a chance and that first penalty is sure to follow…

  170. doritogrande says:

    Great head-man pass from Peckham there. Didn’t know he had that skill.

  171. Keegan says:

    Anyone have a link?
    Nothing is showing up for me on ATDHE.

  172. Phil says:

    Man, Hitchcock needs to go on a diet again….

  173. Phil says:

    Ugh…. penalty kill already.

  174. Bruce says:

    Let’s get started early Mr. Stripes , you can fuck right off. Both of you.

    It’s OK to run the goalie but not the puck carrier. Cuz one’s wearing white and one isn’t?

  175. doritogrande says:

    Oh is it on already? Shit.

    Better tell the Rexall faithful too. Lots of empty seats tonight.

  176. B.C.B. says:

    I don’t even know what a proxy is? I am just a poor philosophy grad student: I don’t have a tv, I am too poor to even drink that much- so paying for center ice is too expensive. damn “insert cruel word here” taking away my only source of enjoyment.

  177. nancy says:

    http://channelsurfing.net/watch-yahoo-nhl-2.php?w=11920221

    It’s tiny and it’s the Columbus feed but it works.

  178. Bruce says:

    Brutal shift for Gilbert.

  179. doritogrande says:

    Just decline the fucking penalty already.

  180. doritogrande says:

    Man, Pisani wasn’t kidding when he said the puck would look chewed up after Moreau handles it. Chopper must’ve bobbled that Cogliano pass about 4 times before fanning on the shot.

  181. Bruce says:

    That’s why Moreau likes to carry the puck up ice … he can’t take a pass.

  182. Keegan says:

    Thanks Nancy.

  183. Phil says:

    Peckham gaining some more fans there…

  184. doritogrande says:

    Kill him! KILL HIM!!!!

  185. oilerdago says:

    Way to go Struds!

  186. Bruce says:

    Concuss my pal Ladi, will ya?

  187. Matt N says:

    Frolov:

    No chance. LA is looking for a quantity out for quality in trade. Not the other way around.

    Pie:

    Pie in the US, south of the Mason-Dixon is serious biz. Had a cherry pie a la mode in New Orleans with ice cream made in house that was almost coma inducing. The memory makes my mouth water.

  188. reijo29 says:

    Damn. I’m really starting to think that Peckham is going to be one hell of a player. Great check behind net and then a solid outlet pass.
    I’m starting to think Peckham is giving us a good reason to trade Steady Steve at deadline, not just a salary dump.

    Great work Struds. Come on Raffi what are you thinking.

  189. PunjabiOil says:

    The first line has got to get it going in a pivotal game like this.

    Fucking chaiwallas.

  190. doritogrande says:

    Row-bert with a hell of a backcheck to save a goal.

    Light: On.

  191. Matt N says:

    Bobby with the diving back check. Very nice.

  192. reijo29 says:

    Gotta say CBJ is outplaying the Oil like crazy so far. Chances at end of frame are going to be quite one sided I think.

  193. oilerdago says:

    Boll is a freakin putz.

  194. Bruce says:

    Horcoff first in the zone, first on the backcheck.

  195. Yeti says:

    Do you think that Raffi and Jason disagreed over the correct temperature to bake carrot cake?

  196. Matt N says:

    Souray is just plain mean. I love the way he protects the crease and makes people pay. Captain without the C.

  197. reijo29 says:

    We have a guy on our PP who hasb’t scored in over 100 games. Take that Eric Cole.
    Can’t Gags play point on PP???

  198. Sean says:

    Man the Oilers gotta switch up the PP here. Their getting double teamed on the side boards. 2 quick passes int the zone or something…

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