Oilers at Wild, G72/08-09

That’s Terry Sawchuk in goal for Los Angeles, with Minnesota’s Bill Goldsworthy (#8) bearing down on the puck. His linemate (#19) is the late Bill Masterton. This photo was taken Nov 7, about 9 weeks before Masterton’s death. I believe the other Los Angeles forward in the photo to be Ted Taylor.

For Los Angeles (aside from Sawchuk), #11 is Lowell MacDonald and the captain is Bob Wall. Behind Masterton, we can see the great Bill White. This is the season where White was +17 and Wall was -9. Looks like a few empty seats for this one.

A win today and the Edmonton Oilers can breathe for the first time since summer. A delightful (and completely unexpected) little run here has Oilers fans thinking it’s time for another 2006. I don’t think they have the horses and no one has told me when Lubo returns, but then again it didn’t occur to me to ask the question.

Until now.

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156 Responses to "Oilers at Wild, G72/08-09"

  1. NormanMendoza says:

    Sorry, torn labrum — 6 months in recovery at least.

  2. danny says:

    I think Edmontons only real chance in the playoffs would be against Calgary. Kipper is no Legacy, but he’s gotta be consideed average despite his reputation to the contrary.

    Detroit have Oz playing out of this world right now, and their skilled guys have been delivering the mail full value since forever. Edmonton has a penchant for fishing smart guys from the draft, Dets seem to be consistency.

    Edmonton facing the sharks in rd1 would be best summed up by a prison guard leading the team onto the ice, clanging his bell and chanting ‘Dead man walking’.

    Columbus doesn’t look like theyre going to do Edmonton any favors though. darkhorse.

  3. Coach pb9617 says:

    Sorry, torn labrum — 6 months in recovery at least.

    Exactly. He won’t be back until training camp, and even then, he’s not going to be happy with contact.

  4. doritogrande says:

    So I check the AHL scores after last night’s game, and wonder why the only 30-goal scorer in our organization is still being forced to endure 7-2 blowouts. Thank god it wasn’t Dubnyk getting hosed all night. I thought Sabourin was supposed to be an elite AHL goalie, but apparently once you get to Springfield everything just goes down the crapper. Also, Colin McDonald (ain’t he a favourite of yours LT) got right pissed off and took three penalties on a single altercation (kneeing major, fight, kneeing game misconduct).

    Today getting any points should be like playing with the house’s money after that win against Chicago. It’d be real nice to keep pace with Columbus, but Raffi Torres continues to mock the Oilogosphere with his play.

    Oh, and can we please rest Roloson once before the season ends?

  5. danny says:

    Mock the Oilogosphere? The ‘sphere has been a Raffi booster for quite a while now.

    Colin Macdonalds situation sounds more like a dirty knee than a mean streak, he got a major and a game for a dirty play, someone wanted to tune him in for it, so he had to drop the gloves as well.

  6. doritogrande says:

    Danny:

    When I say mock, I mean he’s shown flashes of strong play followed by 30 games where we go “where’s Raffi?” I guess tease would be a better word than mock.

  7. NormanMendoza says:

    I would not want to be the team that faces Columbus in the first round.

    Big physical team. Gamebreaking forward that is finally putting it together. a goalie named Mason.

    Peca and Torres who have history and are both players who really excel when it matters.

    and Hitchcock.

  8. Mr DeBakey says:

    I finally had a chance to read yesterday’s thread,
    and the link back to the July 1 thread

    There were a lot a gems in there, but this one made me laugh: “I see Brule developing into a Kesler type player. Great deal for the Oilers.”

    One thing that occured to me as I read was that the organization was looking at Cole as LW, something
    MacT has taken a lot of heat for personally.

    According to today’s paper,
    Reddox’s injury is going to hurt the Oilers
    because he might score 15 one day
    or something like that

  9. Brett Gee 英 明 says:

    Something I noticed on the Oilers site…

    Sam Gagner has 29 points in 24 career NHL games in March.

    That’s pretty good stuff.

  10. Dennis says:

    Mr. D: I listened to those comments from MacT and I was thinking, now how valuable would a guy be who could score 15 goals And win a fucking faceoff?

    Pouliot read that story today and he cried:D

    But those kinds of quotes are the reason why some guys just get tired of MacTavish. Yes, we know 85 works hard but we also know that everyone who comes from the AHL and works hard is “a lot like Fernie.” In the case of 78, it’s been awhile since I’ve seen a bigger MacT screwjob. Time was that the kid wasn’t a checker and he had to play on a scoring line. But when he got the chance on a scoring line, he was demoted for a game and then shelved altogether for a guy in Reddox who’s proven less.

    Not to mention that 13′s been clicking along at ~ 25% on draws for the last little while and we could use a guy like 78 who could at least come close to a 50% winning pct.

    Note: I went back and checked and 78 was on the nose at 50% over his last 42 draws; starting from the time he played with 89-Cole in Nsh.

    But, fuck that, winning faceoffs is garbage.

    If you’re undeniably skilled – 83 and 89 and 89 – you’ve got a friend in MacT. If you work hard above all else, you’ve got a friend in MacT.

    Otherwise, who the fuck knows.

    And yes I understand LT will come here with a substantial list of guys MacT Wasn’t wrong about. It’s just that the whole Reddox over Pouliot thing seems outright wrong.

  11. godot10 says:

    //It’d be real nice to keep pace with Columbus, but Raffi Torres continues to mock the Oilogosphere with his play.//

    Michael Peca knows the magic words to whisper in Raffi Torres’s ear.

  12. Lord Bob says:

    You know what? I still think Brule’s a player. Yes, he’s stinking in Springfield right now, but everybody’s stinking in Springfield right now. Brule has a history of being able to deliver in the AHL, and when we saw him in the NHL this season he looked like he belonged.

    Not worried at all.

  13. mc79hockey says:

    This is as good a chance as the Oilers have had to stab a team in the throat all year. Considering that the Wild are the team that wrecked Ryan Smyth’s Oilers career (if Edmonton wins that game with Minny in 2007, I figure Smyth probably gets re-signed because they don’t want to be seen to be giving up the futile playoff push), a win that puts the Wild on the brink of being out would be awfully nice.

    Of course, with that backdrop, it’s pretty much a moral certainty that the Oilers will shit the bed today.

  14. Lowetide says:

    Dennis: I have zero argument that MacT can get stubborn on a guy, whether falling in (Petersen) our out (Rita) of favor.

    But I think logic and common sense used to rule the day. When Pisani emerged at the expense of Cleary well they bought Daniel out. That made sense, and I’m not going to blame MacT for Cleary’s maturation (in fact Cleary gave credit to MacT for helping).

    With Hejda too the coach admitted to being slow to recognize him and someone would have to find further proof that Jan’s leaving was a MacT decision.

    Finally, I blame Lowe for the FO problems because the coach said last summer “I want Marty” and the GM said “we’ll see.” Which we sure as hell did.

    After the 2006 run a friend of mine with some connections told me that Pouliot, Jacques and a couple of other guys (might have been Bergeron) didn’t endear themselves to the veterans when they messed with the post game spread before the veterans dug in. Which is amazingly silly but sports stories are full of these anecdotes so maybe there is some truth to it.

    There’s also the balking at “I think he might be Carbonneau” and apparently some hesitation on the part of the player to assume the role MacT sees him in.

    So there’s a lot there imo. Plus Reddox (poor bastard) is a developing talent and I could quote you chapter and verse on coaches and how much time they have for developing talents who work hard and listen to instruction. Scott Ferguson got a lot of paydays from that one thing.

  15. Tyler says:

    After the 2006 run a friend of mine with some connections told me that Pouliot, Jacques and a couple of other guys (might have been Bergeron) didn’t endear themselves to the veterans when they messed with the post game spread before the veterans dug in.

    Y’know, as much as some of the youngsters might benefit from spending the summer at Chad Moreau’s House of Pain, some of the veterans might benefit from spending a summer working a blue collar job and then asking themselves how much shit like “Bitch got to the selection of sandwich meats before I did” actually matters.

  16. Dennis says:

    Yeah, I almost forgot to mention MacT’s stream of consciousness on Eager’s hit on 85 versus Raffi’s series-changing knock on Michalek in ’06.

    I’m wondering if MacT’s just more enlightened these days and he’s taking a little bit of opportunity to take a little jab at Torres.

    You know, I would’ve preferred he left that in the past but what I really found funny was last night I looked up Raffi’s stats to see what they’d look like for a full season. Later on, I heard MacT’s comments about how guys in certain roles scoring a certain amount of goals are so valuable;)

    In other news, Brule’s trying to break all of Tom Gilbert’s AHL Oilers organization’s bowling records.

  17. godot10 says:

    //Not to mention that 13′s been clicking along at ~ 25% on draws for the last little while and we could use a guy like 78 who could at least come close to a 50% winning pct.//

    Cogliano has demonstrated 20-goal potential (15? and 17 goals). Pouliot hasn’t. When you demonstrate 20-goal potential, a team will be much more patient with your flaws. When you don’t demonstrate 20-goal potential, you are always in a “show me” state. You have much less margin for error.

  18. docweb says:

    A win today and the Edmonton Oilers can breathe for the first time since the summer

    LT: I don’t think they or the fans will be able to breathe until the last period of the last game.

    As witnessed by the Canucks disaster last night, at this time of year the usual indicators of wins/losses goes out the window.

    Teams that are “out of it” play loose and can bite you. Teams that are superior sometimes rest players or are not motivated and stink the joint out.

    Home ice is great if you are like the Oil last year and just having fun, but for teams like the Oil this year…great/unrealistic expectations put a lot more pressure than usual on you. Playing at home can then be a very bad thing.

    Of course, this doesn’t even take into account the usual difference makers of injuries, hot goalies,etc.

    I just have a sickening feeling it will come down to the back to back with the Flames at the end.

  19. Coach pb9617 says:

    Not to mention that 13′s been clicking along at ~ 25% on draws for the last little while .

    20% in the last 7

    26% in the last 13

  20. Coach pb9617 says:

    Dennis – that jeans commercial, it reminds me how much fellas used to hate Ron Duguay. The ladies absolutely melted for the guy, I mean opposing team’s female fans screaming like Beatles fans when he hit the ice. They had signs with “OH LA LA” and a shirtless picture of Duguay on them.

    It turned Duguay into a target of every male hockey fan in North America.

    Cogliano has demonstrated 20-goal potential (15? and 17 goals). Pouliot hasn’t. When you demonstrate 20-goal potential, a team will be much more patient with your flaws. When you don’t demonstrate 20-goal potential, you are always in a “show me” state. You have much less margin for error.

    He would have 30 goal potential if he wasn’t at center. The puck isn’t moving in the right direction for him most of the time.

  21. Lord Bob says:

    You know, I feel somewhat dirty mentioning this, but were Bergeron, Pouliot, and Jacques not the only French-Canadians on the team in 2006?

  22. St George says:

    Anyone watching the Pens – Flyers game right now? I hope someone in the NHL marketing department is watching and making some new rules about jerseys. The powder blue and orange look beautiful on the ice, and they are way easier to look at than the black jerseys that half the league seems to want to wear these days (the Coyotes looked like little ants on the screen last night!). Good work Pittsburgh and Philly.

  23. RiversQ says:

    Anyone have an online feed for this one?

    I could actually watch this game.

  24. Coach pb9617 says:

    Anyone watching the Pens – Flyers game right now? I hope someone in the NHL marketing department is watching and making some new rules about jerseys. The powder blue and orange look beautiful on the ice, and they are way easier to look at than the black jerseys that half the league seems to want to wear these days (the Coyotes looked like little ants on the screen last night!). Good work Pittsburgh and Philly.

    I’m switching between Riley Nash vs. Yale and that game.

    Black sells, or something. Expansion and team moves killed a large amount of really good-looking uniforms:

    Nordiques, Jets, Whalers,

    And gave us some horrendous ones:

    Wild, Lightning, Thrashers

    The conversion to black on black with black letters and black logos killed way too many cool unis:

    Blackhawks, Penguins, Kings, Flyers, Stars, Sabres…

  25. Lowetide says:

    Laraque and Roy.

  26. Dennis says:

    LT: I just feel like 78′s done what was asked from him and he should be playing over 85.

    Forgetting that it was probably his conditioning and reluctance at joining Camp Mendenbaulm that knocked him back in the first place, this year he’s at just -1 in real plus/minus playing in the top nine so he’s affordable and at the very least he holds serve. Plus, when he was put on a line with 89, they clicked and scored some goals and they out-chanced.

    So, if 85 was a plus PKer or he was a scorer or he could win a faceoff, I could see him playing over 78.

    But he’s neither so the move doesn’t make sense.

    Coach: I can’t get enough of that commericial.

  27. Dennis says:

    Oh, I second the request for an online feed. I’m taping the game so that I can log the scoring chances later on this evening but I”m heading to the sister’s place for a family supper so I’m apt to miss at least one period; I am hoping to catch one of them online, though, and at least be able to check in occasionally.

    BTW, why is athde.net only offering certain hockey games these days?

  28. HBomb says:

    I guess the question is, who draws in for Reddox today?

    Or are they just going to play with 11 forwards because they cannot POSSIBLY replace Reddox’s (grossly overrated) contributions?

    I thought Reddox had the opportunity to be this year’s Petersen. It’s turned out to be far, far worse.

  29. Lowetide says:

    I hear you, Dennis. It’s like the year Montreal won 91 games but kept running Bob Sebra (6-15) out there even when Martinez came up from Indianapolis and STILL started him when Pascual Perez started his amazing run.

    You could write a book about stubborn and every coach would be in it.

    I’m a big Pouliot backer and maybe my Canadian background is making me be too fair on this, but it’s always been my opinion that you have to give prospects 500 at-bats.

    After that, it’s up in the air. Maybe he doesn’t play as physical as the coach wishes, maybe he doesn’t play the cerebral game this management team is addicted to, or maybe it’s a matter of time having run out on his development time.

    Either way, he’s going to be 24 when the snow clears from this season and the prospect tag is a distant bell. If we make a list of guys who are 24 and haven’t established themselves, how many actually help win games later in their NHL career?

    My guess is few.

  30. danny says:

    you can buy a single day pass at hockeystreams.com for $3.99

    I subscribe monthly for about $14 which includes HD streaming and every game archived.

    I think next season I am going to go the slingbox route though.

  31. Bank Shot says:

    Plus, when he was put on a line with 89, they clicked and scored some goals and they out-chanced.

    I guess he has something in common with the rest of the players that have played with Gagner recently.

    Pouliot needs to develop a work ethic like Reddox or he’ll never get any traction with this team. MacT has had no problem benching more effective players like Nilsson and Penner.

  32. Lord Bob says:

    Thanks, LT. I wouldn’t have counted Roy but Laraque I should have remembered.

  33. bookie says:

    Anyone have any informed insight into the JDD situation. Is the guy sieving it up at practice? Or is he looking pretty good and the braintrust has just decided that Roli looks fine and the extra work does not seem to be hurting?

    If JDD looks bad/unreliable in practice then what is the logic of holding on to him? Is it because Bucky loves him and Bucky could be coach soon?

    ANy thoughts?

  34. PunjabiOil says:

    From Jim Matheson’s hockey world

    “Schremp has had a miserable season, and while the Oilers won’t say they’ve written him off, they will likely try to move him this summer.

    “People talk about his skating, but he’s not a poor skater…he’s just not as aggressive as he should be when he doesn’t have the puck. He has to reinvent himself,” said Daum.

  35. PunjabiOil says:

    Anyone have any informed insight into the JDD situation.

    He sucks.

  36. Lowetide says:

    In regard to Deslauriers, at the very least this was awful roster management. This isn’t keeping John Wetteland from the Rule V (he wasn’t hidden successfully), this is using a roster spot for an entire season on Randy St. Claire.

    In regard to Schremp, if we take away the Rick Derringer factor, he’s a guy who had some issues at the draft and they have enveloped his career.

    http://www.kuodesign.com/klog/1975/images/springbreak.jpg

  37. hunter1909 says:

    Just because the Oilers could really do with a win tonight, it’s a fucking certainty they’re going to lose.

    Then everyone can resume the anti-coach position, which is of course the only sensible approach.

    Re Torres: He MIGHT have become a force had we had a circa 1981 Sather running the club, but, given the fact he was hung out to dry when they decided that “team toughness” was going to work(more on the job NHL training for the management that vehemently denies the NHl is a development league for Brule/Schremp etc), he basically will never amount to anything much. The fucker is a pepsi head. And all round headcase. And as a consequence, cannot be coached by MacTavish.

  38. PunjabiOil says:

    MacT on Reddox, in today’s Sun:

    In 44 games this season, Reddox has five goals and seven assists. He started the season in the AHL with the Springfield Falcons, but since getting called up has never seemed to be in jeopardy of getting sent back down.

    “If you watch him in practice, he’s a skilled guy,” MacTavish said.

    “He skates, he moves the puck, he’s fearless. He’s got a lot of upside in his game. He’s going to be a real solid checker, a third-line checker that can get 15 goals in a season, which is a pretty valuable player in today’s game.”

  39. bookie says:

    In regard to Deslauriers, at the very least this was awful roster management.

    Ok, but then my question is why? Its clear that someone (Lowe, Tambi?) has some reason for keeping him around – any guesses as to their logic? Is it some kind of poor insurance for the goaliless summer, is it because they think he may have a future, is it because they don’t have anyone else? Any guesses as to what is in the managements heads?

    Why not send him down and bring Sabourin or DD up to ride the bench? Perhaps its just a case that they need 3 other goalies between the backup and farm and could not afford to lose any of them.

    Perhaps they can’t do this now that the deadline has passed, but they could have done it earlier.

  40. Lowetide says:

    bookie: My guess is someone like Lou in NJD has sent word they’re really high on him. It apparently worked with Jesse Niinimaki. Far fetched I know, but can you think of an explanation that covers all of this? A valuable prospect who has never posted above average numbers and the coach won’t play.

    Hoookay.

    I think Reddox has some talent, which he has displayed in the NHL this season. I also believe that as rare as it is for a player to improve markedly across multiple areas once he turns pro, you have to respect that and enjoy the ride as opposed to finding comps and tracking normal progress.

    Is he worth it? Have no idea. But MacT thinks so, and that is the very least interesting.

    His bugaboo will be injuries. Can’t play that style at that size.

  41. relic says:

    Smacintyre likely in as Minny apparently has two 6’8″ers taking the warmup…. poor pou.

  42. mc79hockey says:

    Re: JDD – I think that management either thinks he has a future or doesn’t want to to take the hit on letting him go. I don’t think that MacT thinks he’s worth anything at the moment, which is why he hasn’t played. MacT’s been saddled with some shitty backup goaltenders over the years and he’s never done it like he’s done it with Roli this year. Dominic Roussel played more than this guy for god’s sake and he never played another NHL game after that year.

  43. C.Knight says:

    Stream can be found here:

    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/wild-hockey

    Enjoy!

  44. mc79hockey says:

    Crazy little play from Staios there – he had the chance to ring it around and instead made the cute little bounce pass. Weird.

  45. Steve says:

    Anyone know if I’m right in my impression that Roloson tends to play badly against Minnesota? I don’t have any stats, but I know on a few occasions I’ve hopes that maybe he’d steal one against his old team, and I’ve always been wrong.

  46. mc79hockey says:

    Ah, I’d forgotten the joys of MAB. I don’t understand how he and Lemaire co-exist.

  47. Mr DeBakey says:

    Vintage Bergeron there
    with that pass to Nilsson

  48. mc79hockey says:

    Nice dive Kotalik.

    Solid five minutes for MAB.

  49. oilerdago says:

    Boys have good jump so far. Hope it stays that way.

  50. Bruce says:

    Poor Poo? How about poor Zorg? 6 games on the sidelines now, after posting 4-3-7, +2, 31 PiM in his last 15 GP. That’s a cool 3.16 ESP/60 if you’re counting (and I certainly am).

    Poor bastard has to be wondering WTF he needs to do.

  51. B.C.B. says:

    Ales2 did a great impression of Co;e. plus it looks like the h2o line is working

  52. mc79hockey says:

    I just want to say – I’m not sure about Penner and I’d prefer Lubo out there but 89-83 need to be the foundation of the first unit for the next three years.

  53. Bank Shot says:

    Pretty nice puck movement on the PP. THis game has been all Oilers thus far.

  54. mc79hockey says:

    The Wild dman should have had a travelling call there.

  55. danny says:

    w t f

  56. oilerdago says:

    Been all Oil…except for those 2 odd man rushes where Minny decides to not shoot.

    Hi risk – hi reward.

  57. Bruce says:

    Well we’ve looked good in their zone so far. A couple of bad lapses in the neutral zone though, lucky not to give up a shortie after POS threw it in Gilbert’s skates and nobody bothered to trail the play.

  58. B.C.B. says:

    I wished we would have played Zorg, Cap’t Two-Minute-Minor is going to getting a lot of ice time this afternoon

  59. oilerdago says:

    Hemsky’s actually shooting the puc with conviction today. Maybe he’s ready to break his slump?

  60. mc79hockey says:

    With Lemaire dressing Boogaard, dressing a legit heavyweight is the way to go for the Oilers. MacT’s thinking makes sense here.

  61. danny says:

    that was a cringe moment, POS broken ankle crossed my mind.

  62. Bruce says:

    Hemsky’s actually shooting the puc with conviction today. Maybe he’s ready to break his slump?

    Hemsky has 14 shots in March (9 games). About frakkin’ time he started shooting the puck again. 4 attmepted shots already.

  63. mc79hockey says:

    Are we the Red Wings or something? That Cogliano takedown of Koivu demanded a penalty.

  64. Steve says:

    Are we the Red Wings or something? That Cogliano takedown of Koivu demanded a penalty.

    Rod Phillips agrees – it must have been pretty bad.

  65. Bruce says:

    What would you call that? Two minutes for pushing?

  66. mc79hockey says:

    Kotalik, not COgliano.

    Not sure what the call is Bruce. Weird play. As far as I know, you can’t take guys down from behind though.

    This is one of the best periods I’ve seen the Oilers play this year, although the Wild have been sliding through the neutral zone pretty easily on those rare occasions that they get the puck.

  67. mc79hockey says:

    And there’s Smid’s second hard shot of the afternoon.

  68. Bruce says:

    Smid’s gonna have to learn how not to get nailed. He seems to take a wicked shot every game.

    Agreed. He needs to go apeshit on somebody. That should be his frist order of business in 2009-10.

  69. Bruce says:

    MC: Cross-checking?

  70. Bruce says:

    A muffin from Hemsky there.

    One thing Grebeshkov adds to the PP in a major way is movement.

  71. mc79hockey says:

    Maybe. I didn’t really see where the stick was. If I was Koivu, I’d have been pissed about that non-call too.

    Great period. Chances 9-3 Oil according to SN West. Gotta get that first goal and force the Wild to open up.

  72. Smytty777 says:

    Great period, with nothing to show for it. Which makes me nervous for the remaining two.

  73. Dennis says:

    I tuned it with 8 min left and the Oilers are playing well.

    I missed the PP you guys were talking about and the odd man rushes by Min but from what I’ve seen the Oilers clearly have the extra gear and though the feed’s a big grainy, there’s been a couple of shifts where I couldn’t believe the puck stayed out.

    On 78: there’s no way that he isn’t a top nine forward in this league; I just think it’s to a point where he’s good enough but he isn’t what MacT wants him to be and because 85 will always listen, it doesn’t matter that he’s not as good.

    On JDD: i think the Oil were afraid to risk a 1st rounder getting picked up on waivers. that’s a stupid reason for doing what they did but outside of ’06, name the last time this org had a consistent stretch of good decision making?

  74. Lowetide says:

    There’s nothing bad that has happened to this team in days. Even the 0-0 score isn’t much to fret about.

    So, why am I yelling at the TV?

  75. Bruce says:

    So if Reddox wasn’t hurt, who would MacT have gonged to make room for SMac? Penner? Nilsson?

  76. Bruce says:

    LT: It’s because every forward on the team has developed a case of Horcoff Hands.

  77. mc79hockey says:

    Maybe Reddox. Reddox has gotten PB’d himself lately and Nilsson is really running right now.

    In any event, that’s not the issue. The issue is whether there’s a good reason that Stortini isn’t dressed. Seems to me that it’s entirely defensible.

  78. RiversQ says:

    Excellent period from the Oilers. No complaints.

  79. godot10 says:

    //Maybe. I didn’t really see where the stick was. If I was Koivu, I’d have been pissed about that non-call too.//

    The non-call was correct. Kotalik with a body-on-body hit from behind in the open ice. You can’t hit from behind into the boards, but you certainly can in the open ice.

  80. oilerdago says:

    It was a very good period. The couple of times when the Wild tried that stretch pass to get Gaborik on a breakaway the Oil picked it up.

    Just got to keep pecking away at these guys and the goals will come.

  81. Scott says:

    I think the Oil were afraid to risk a 1st rounder getting picked up on waivers.

    Except that he’s a second rounder. A high one, but still. I think that LT’s theory makes the most sense. They honestly think someone will claim him which means he must be worth keeping around. Whoever it is is probably yanking their chain.

    The Oilers 1st PP looks really good so far and the 2nd unit does not. Too bad they couldn’t get a goal out of that because we’re almost certainly going to be getting some penalties in these next two periods.

    As for the lineup, the guys they’re throwing out tonight make some sense if you believe in the value of the enforcer. I assume Stortini is in next game.

  82. Lowetide says:

    One thing I think we can credit Pouliot with is value. If and when the Oilers decide to move him along they should get something good in return. The paper today said the Oilers might move Schremp and I can’t see them getting much at this point.

  83. Mr DeBakey says:

    There’s no way Schremp re-signs with the Oilers

    He’ll go to Europe first I think

  84. mc79hockey says:

    A-Rod outed as a hooker user. Used the same agency that Eliot Spitzer used.

    He apparently dated the madam who ran the agency himself. The money quote: “Davis told a friend she and Rodriguez grew apart “when he found out I had a new boyfriend. He got upset. What was I supposed to do? He was married.”

    It’s really been a bad off-season for A-Rod.

  85. Bruce says:

    First period shots at goal:
    EDM 29 MIN 6.

    Faceoffs:
    Cogliano !!! 3-0, 100%
    Penner 2-0, 100%
    Horcoff 3-1, 75%
    Gagner 1-5, 17%
    Brodziak 0-1, 0%

  86. mc79hockey says:

    Schremp doesn’t have much of a choice when it comes to re-signing with the Oilers unless he’s willing to go to Europe. We’ll see how willing he is to flush the NHL dream.

  87. Bruce says:

    The power of the highlight package: according to that one, Minnesota had all the chances that period.

  88. RiversQ says:

    Bruce said…
    Poor Poo? How about poor Zorg? 6 games on the sidelines now, after posting 4-3-7, +2, 31 PiM in his last 15 GP. That’s a cool 3.16 ESP/60 if you’re counting (and I certainly am).

    Was that Nietzsche who said the best way to subvert a cause is to deliberately defend it with faulty arguments?

    Bruce, it’s like you hate Stortini.

  89. Bruce says:

    Huh?

  90. mc79hockey says:

    Well, here comes the 1-0 Wild lead.

  91. RiversQ says:

    That was a crazy slash by 44. He would have broken Gaborik’s wrist if he’d hit it instead of the stick.

  92. Scott says:

    I think that our next PP Penner should play in front of the net with a pre-broken stick.

  93. Bruce says:

    Well, here comes the 1-0 Wild lead.

    Book it.

  94. oilerdago says:

    Huge kill. Now would the team that played the first period please come out. The second has officially started.

  95. Coach pb9617 says:

    Ya know, I hate to say this, but Traktor may have been right about getting Horcoff off of the power play so he could beat ES and the PK.

  96. Bruce says:

    How is that not goalie interference?

  97. Bank Shot says:

    Holy crap they killed a 5-on-3.

  98. Lowetide says:

    Crazy damn game. Could someone from the Oilers please score so I can relax a little? Freak.

  99. slipper says:

    I don’t understand why MacT isn’t playing JFJ. He’s seventh in the league in even strength goal production at 2.22/60, just a smidge below Aaron Downey…

  100. Black Gold says:

    for ppl still looking for a feed
    HabsVision

    It’s a little choppy.

  101. mc79hockey says:

    How would you feel if you had a ticket tonight for the end of hte rink that the Oilers defended in the first?

  102. mc79hockey says:

    This never would have happened if MacT hadn’t lost the room.

  103. Bruce says:

    Slipper: I don’t understand it either. :) What I do know is that MacIntyre glowering from the bench didn’t help one bit when Moore smeared Moreau, and he didn’t do anything on his subsequent shift either.

    In the meantime we can’t roll four lines, playing our third game in under 72 hours.

  104. Coach pb9617 says:

    There’s no way Schremp re-signs with the Oilers

    He’ll go to Europe first I think

    The long provincial nightmare is over.

    Does Gaborik get full value on his coming deal? In his last 5 seasons, he’s missed 65, 5, 36, 17, 17 games.

    The ice is tilted here in Minnesota too. Need to get that checked out.

  105. slipper says:

    Owen Nolan is feeling it. I think he’s heading up to the pb at the intermission just to beat down Stortini again for good measure.

  106. Scott says:

    Why oh why didn’t we get a goal on one of our power plays in the first period? Alas.

  107. Lowetide says:

    It’s a movie we’ve seen before, but it doesn’t get any easier to endure. Bleeding out via hangnail.

  108. mc79hockey says:

    I haven’t checked but has Gaborik played so few games that he’s eligible for a contract that includes bonuses? He’s going to play fewer than 20 games this year.

  109. oilerdago says:

    Would sure be nice to get one back right here.

  110. slipper says:

    You know what makes me feel better after going down one in a game the Oilers should be winning?

    A Principe Pun.

    The hardest working man in show business, ladies and gentlemen.

  111. mc79hockey says:

    To answer my own question, Gaborik’s contract can include bonuses if he’s spent more than 100 days on injured reserve. It looks like he went on in October, so I assume that the answer is “yes”.

    He might be interested in a bonus laden one year deal if he can’t hit his home run.

  112. oilerdago says:

    Thank you Miettenen.

  113. slipper says:

    Im think we might have the favour of the Gods on our side.

    I predict a 70 footer on Backstrom coming up in the third.

  114. pboy says:

    Or he will sign with Detroit for 3 million on a 1 year deal and play 82 and score 60 goals.

  115. docweb says:

    A bit of bad luck by Rollie on Nolan’s goal. He actually had it on his stick and swept to himself…under the glove…right to Nolan.

    Special teams again.

  116. Bruce says:

    $16 million dollar brain cramp there. O’Sullivan, Hemsky, Horcoff and Gilbert all caught below the hash marks with too much time on the clock, and an ill-advised bad angle shot by POS set up the breakout more surely than a crisp Kim Johnsson pass. Thank goodness that was Miettinen and not Nolan or Bouchard or one of those guys that never seems to miss against the Oilers.

    Frustrating game. I swear we’ve had more point blank chances in this game than we had in Denver. Still waiting for One favourable bounce.

  117. Ribs says:

    Well, Bouchard got his auto-point, so that’s done with at least.

    I hope the Oil didn’t blow their load in the first. This is a very winnable hockey game.

  118. gary b says:

    c’mon Oil. gotta find a way to push back in the 3rd.

    clap clap

  119. Bruce says:

    Second period shots at goal:
    EDM 18 MIN 36

    Second period faceoffs:

    Gagner 2-2, 50%
    Horcoff 4-5, 44%
    Brodziak 1-3, 25%
    Cogliano 0-2, 0%

    Oilers 7-12, 37%

    Let’s hope the ice remains tilted from left to right.

  120. Schitzo says:

    Oh MAB, never change.

  121. Steve says:

    Rodovision update: Rod just pointed out that this, Roloson’s twenty-whateverth straight start, set a new team record. Stauffer gently pointed out to him that every one of Roloson’s last several starts has done so.

  122. PDO says:

    Owen Nolan really pisses me off.

  123. RiversQ says:

    Ugh, Gilbert just completely snoozed on that one.

  124. B.C.B. says:

    What was Gilbert doing behind the net, by himself?

  125. Bruce says:

    What was Gilbert doing behind the net there?

  126. mc79hockey says:

    For fuck’s sake. MacT should have cut a deal with Lemaire that we’d just rush it from behind our own net instead of having a faceoff with Cogs.

  127. Black Gold says:

    Why was Cogliano taking that draw when Gagner was out there?
    Not that Gagner is a faceoff hero, but Cogliano is certainly a nightmare.

  128. Bruce says:

    This “power play” is drivng me mental.

  129. Smytty777 says:

    At least the PP could avoid being a huge momentum killer, even that wasn’t accomplished.

  130. Bruce says:

    Blatant trip by Bouchard there. Home town zebra with another HUA.

  131. Black Gold says:

    Strudwick was looking a little too slow for the NHL on that 2 on 2.. :(

  132. Bruce says:

    Not that our powerplay would have made it over the blueline in actual possession of the puck, but still.

  133. PDO says:

    Well, that pretty much sums up the day.

  134. Ribs says:

    Game over. Yay.

  135. Scott says:

    Well then. I guess Gagner continues his point streak?

  136. Bruce says:

    I would love to see the tiniest bit of physical intensity out of the Oilers. Clutterbuck is running around like he does every game, Belanger ran Roli earlier and then Hemsky after the whistle, and the Oilers respond by scoring in their own net. That’ll learn ‘em.

  137. RiversQ says:

    Well, that was rough. Tough break to probably lose a game like this, but it happens.

    Unrelated, but you have to love Gagner’s year so far. He’s had a pretty solid progression in the underlying numbers all year and now finally picking up some points to keep the muppets quiet.

  138. Ribs says:

    I wish there was more Pisani in this game. He was rocking in the first.

  139. Lowetide says:

    Meh. The team has been on a nice run and the Wild were facing a long spring and summer if they lost today. Credit to the other guy on this day, especially after no goals in the dominant first.

  140. PDO says:

    The good news:

    Detroit plays in Calgary Monday night.

  141. B.C.B. says:

    Well NHL GameCenter decide this game was over: might as well be . . . what a crappy use of a great 1st period.

  142. Quinn says:

    Sorry, just got here. Why are we down so many (besides the obvious – chance to put Minn away)? Was Roli human today?

  143. Bruce says:

    Third period shots at goal:

    EDM 12, MIN 13

    Third period faceoffs:

    Brodziak 1-1, 50%
    Horcoff 2-4, 33%
    Gagner 2-4, 33%
    O’Sullivan 1-2, 33%
    Cogliano 1-4, 20%
    Penner 0-3, 0%

    Oilers: 7-18, 28%

    Downhill all the way.

  144. bookie says:

    Sigh!

  145. Lord Bob says:

    (crap crap)

  146. hunter1909 says:

    Thank goodness I was able to miss that game.

    Was thinking, since I predicted the Chicago win, and now the Minn loss, it seems almost easy to predict what will happen to the team in the games ahead, by using the usual reverse psyhcology that the team themselves have been using on the fans for the past many years.

    I don’t know who they play next, nor does it matter. A piss poor loss usually means yet another piss poor loss for the Oilers, so for the next game I’ll just predict the loss.

  147. docweb says:

    I thought Smac did not hurt his chances of playing again if need be. Penner had another solid game.
    Gilbert had a tough one in front of his family and friends,though.

    Going to the next game. Expect another “close but no cigar” effort against Detroit. Somehow need 2 wins out of the next 3 to stay in the thick of things.

  148. gary b says:

    when teams are this close, and this closely matched, if you push the hardest in the 1st, the opposition pushes back just as hard in the 2nd. 3rd is almost always a wash. the boys had their chances early, just no finish. need to find some points against the Wings.

  149. Traktor says:

    I thought Penner was our best forward tonight.

    The only player who played fewer EV minutes than Penner was MacIntyre.

    Just par for the course.

  150. RiversQ says:

    Traktor said…
    I thought Penner was our best forward tonight.

    Nah, that was Horcoff. Really nice game from him. He had a great play in the 1st when Min actually had them scrambling for a shift – Horc went into the corner with Koivu (starting from behind him) won the puck and got the Oilers moving the right direction again. The Oilers have exactly one forward capable of doing that kind of play.

    Penner, Gagner and Nilsson played pretty well too IMO.

  151. Dennis says:

    I didn’t get a chance to put this out there because supper was on the table but it honestly felt like a game where the Wild would score before the first TV timeout of the third period and then we wouldn’t waste too much of our time holding out hope.

    And I’ll be damned if that didn’t happen.

    It was an odd game and we played so well in the first period that I have a hard time getting all that made about it. Right off the bat, 12 has a golden chance and later on 19 puts one off the post. Later on we see 83 robbed on a PP rebound at the side of the net and 18 gets a shot from the slot as well. They could have buried the Wild right then and there and there aren’t too many times where you’ll have 14 chances in a period with no goals to show for it and that’s where we stood after 20.

    But, be it because the Wild wanted it more or we ran out of gas, the Oilers were like an old guy with a belly full of beer: he only had one load in him.

    The Wild came out and took control right from the opening shift of the second and it was over. Oilers only mustered seven chances over the last 40 minutes and that’s simply not enough. Plus, no one’s betting any amount of coin on the Oilers PK going three games without allowing a marker and the Wild get a fluke goal to boot.

    It’s like #1SmidFan said;), the Wild HAD to have this one today. They should have lost it just because of their first 20 minute effort but they escaped unharmed and used a second chance to their favour. With that opportunity, they looked like a team with their season on line.

    Hopefully, they’ll be facing the same scnario next Sunday and we can do the same thing to them we did a few Sat’s ago: get out to a two goal lead and ask Roli to be Faustian in the third period;)

    Anyway, the real worry from today is 77. I think 37′s been carrying that tandem and Tom’s just making a lot of moves that sound like brainfarts. Not sure if he’s hurt or mentally he’s lagging but something’s up.

    Some other things:

    - still not a game where the new 10 line blew the other lines out of the water by outchancing. I keep waiting for a two or three goal game but it still hasn’t come.

    - yet another dumb penalty by 44 – this one put us down two men – and him and 34 have taken up that mantle that was blessedly abdicated by 18.

    - outside of tearing up a beaten-down Avs team in the third period, the new 89 line has been just getting lucky.

    - a good enough game for the 24-44 pairing considering all the madness that surrounded them.

  152. HBomb says:

    Ok, all I’ve got about today’s game is one question:

    So Reddox draws out – what is MacTavish’s justification for playing Moreau in the top nine over Dustin Penner.

    As far as I’m concerned, there is none.

    27-10-83
    12-89-21
    19-13-34
    18-51-??

    ?? = 78, 22, 33, 46, 85

    That’s what it should be right now. If they want to get Hemsky and Horcoff going offensively, I’ve been saying it for weeks – go back to what is PROVEN to work.

  153. Dennis says:

    I forgot that we didn’t have 85 at our disposal today.

    That made for even tougher sledding.

  154. HBomb says:

    Dennis: careful with that razor-sharp sarcasm, you might cut someone with that.

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