Slava Jive

Slava Trukhno doesn’t look like he’s progressing. He’s at 47gp, 6-18-24 -11 (.511 points-per-game) which is down from last season’s less than stellar performance (64gp, 14-21-35 -16 .547 points-per-game).

He has not improved since Rob Daum took over as coach and looking at the boxcars he looks like a guy who might be nearing his peak as a professional hockey player. He is not a checking winger and despite having some ability on the powerplay and some impressive outings in TC it looks for all the world like he’s stalling out in the AHL.

Let’s look at those situational stats to see if there’s a silver lining.

  • 07-08 EV: 64gp, 5-11-16 .250ppg
  • 08-09 EV: 47gp, 4-10-14 .298ppg

So there’s some improvement at EV strength. It’s not a huge step forward (it works out to 2 extra points over a season) but let’s give credit where due.

  • 07-08 PP: 64gp, 9-10-19 .296ppg
  • 08-09PP: 47gp, 2-7-9 .191ppg

We see a huge drop off in this area. Trukhno doesn’t have a PP point in quite some time and it may be that he no longer plays regularly on that unit. Generally speaking you’d like a player to be performing well at evens since there’s little chance of extended PP time when the prospect arrives in the show for the first time.

  • 07-08Shots: 94 in 64 gp, 1.47 per game
  • 08-09Shots: 82 in 47gp, 1.74 per game

For what it’s worth he’s shooting more and that should have a positive offensive impact. Finally, let’s look at team scoring in order to put this in context:

  • 07-08 Falcons: 214 goals in 80 games, 2.68GF per game
  • 08-09 Falcons: 153 goals in 66 games, 2.32GF per game

That’s a significant decline in GF. Trukhno was involved in 16.3% of team offense a year ago and is now involved in 15.7% of team offense this season. One suspects that if we broke it down to EVs Trukhno would improve season over season.

I don’t think he’s progressing enough as a prospect to be considered a legit NHL player down the line. I ranked him as the organization’s #13 prospect in the winter rankings and should he continue at this rate Trukhno may not make the summer 20.

He needs to be better.

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  1. knighttown says:

    Too bad LT. I know he was one of your favorites. Pouliot looks good though.

  2. Jonathan Willis says:

    Well, Trukhno’s hardly alone in looking like a failure on the farm this year. Bryan Lerg looks just about ready for the same pile as Vyacheslav.

    On the bright side, Colin McDonald = better as a pro ;)

  3. pboy says:

    So your saying I shouldn’t send away for my Trukhno jersey next season?

    LT: Have you read “The Bronx Zoo” by Sparky Lyle? I know you love baseball and this might be one of the best inside baseball books I’ve ever read. That and pretty much anything by David Halberstam.

  4. Lowetide says:

    pboy: I read it years ago, don’t remember much about it. Jim Bouton’s book is a tremendous one if you liked Lyle’s.

  5. Alex says:

    The problem is that Springfield has been so bloody awful this year that a player who has “stalled” actually looks good to me, just because everyone else seems like they’ve taken a huge step backwards.

    I’m not ready to give up hope on him being an NHLer just yet.

  6. Icecastles says:

    What prospects do we have right now who are outperforming expectations?

  7. pboy says:

    Yeah, I have read Ball Four too. It’s funny when you think about how young pitchers were overused back then and compare it to how they are coddled now. 250 innings was just a starting off point for most guys, now there are only a handful of guys who approach that number.

  8. Lowetide says:

    IceCastles: Riley Nash is ahead of last season, Eberle too although he fell off. Theo Peckham continues to show growth and Alex Plante has recovered as a prospect.

    Some big seasons for Euro’s (Omark, Hartikainen) and don’t look now but Taylor Chorney is having a nice run with the new coach.

    I don’t know about Jeff Petry’s season, at a glance he seems to have run in place while his team crashed all around him. Which is a pretty good season (if true).

    And of course Liam Reddox has been in the NHL for much of the season and that’s progress.

  9. Scott says:

    Yeah, the numbers pretty much say that Truk is done, especially given the number of forwards in the organization ahead of him.

    Watching the Hawks and Jackets game and so far the Jackets are up 2-0. They’re having a real nice run here.

  10. boopronger says:

    Maybe im jumping the gun on a future entry LT, but, how is Omark doing? Last I heard he was leading the SEL in scoring and at his age that seems to be some serious progress. Is he still doing that well?

  11. Scott says:

    I think Omark is still doing really well this year. He finished the regular season third in SEL scoring which is awesome.

    Hawks score! Dustin Byfuglien is a huge man and set a great screen on the PP which had been struggling some until the goal. The Jackets are also playing their backup this game: Wade Dubleiwicz. If they’re willing to play Doobie, surely we can throw Deslauriers out against the Hawks next week.

  12. Scott says:

    Another PP goal for the Hawks. Another big man screen, 2-2 tie. It’s pretty amazing what a good PP can do for your chance to win hockey games.

  13. Scott says:

    Interesting moment in the game, given what happened with Penner last night. Brian Campbell takes a (high but unpenalized) hit from a Columbus player (Boll). Matt Walker comes in and starts a fight with Boll.

    Result: Five minutes for fighting each. They also decided to retroactively give Boll the elbowing penalty and gave an extra two to Walker. It wasn’t announced on the broadcast but nhl.com is calling it holding.

    The referees need to have a meeting so that they call this kind of thing with consistency.

  14. Bruce says:

    Jim Bouton’s book is a tremendous one if you liked Lyle’s.

    Yeah, sur-re.

  15. Bruce says:

    PBoy: Good call on David Halberstam. I recently read his “October, 1964″ and it was absolutely terrific.

    And despite appearances, the foregoing comment was an absolute endorsement of LT’s recommendation of Jim Bouton’s “Ball Four”, one of my favourite reads period.

  16. Scott says:

    Vermette with his second goal of the game tonight for Columbus and they’re up 3-2.

    I still can’t believe that Howson was able to get Vermette out of Ottawa while dumping salary at the same time for a second round pick. It gives me hope that there really is a market for a guy like Staios who, from up close, doesn’t look near worth his contract.

  17. oilerdago says:

    //IceCastles: Riley Nash is ahead of last season, Eberle too although he fell off.//

    LT: I know that they don’t include the numbers from the World Jr’s. in Eberle’s box cars, but if you add them, I think believe he’s on pace for the same # of goals and more assists.

    Certainly he’s among the top 3 prospects.

  18. Fake Craig McTavish says:

    Scott said…
    Vermette with his second goal of the game tonight for Columbus and they’re up 3-2.

    I still can’t believe that Howson was able to get Vermette out of Ottawa while dumping salary at the same time for a second round pick. It gives me hope that there really is a market for a guy like Staios who, from up close, doesn’t look near worth his contract.

    Gratton on waivers and Jason Williams for junk.

    It would appear the man knows what he’s doing.

  19. Bruce says:

    Not to mention Raffi Torres for Gilbert Brule.

  20. Fake Craig McTavish says:

    In other news, Alex Burrows would be the Oilers leading goal scorer (tied with Hemsky) and has just signed a 4 year extension for $2M/year.

  21. Scott says:

    Torres from Peca to put the Jackets up 4-2 on a very nice play from Voracek. The kid protected the puck really well on a rush along the wall before finding Peca. He’ll be a player. The Torres-Peca duo sure does bring back memories from 2006 though. I wonder if Howson threw that line info to Hitchcock when Torres came over or if Hitch decided on that one on his own.

  22. Scott says:

    Are you watching the game Bruce? The timing was “impeccable.”

  23. Fake Craig McTavish says:

    A full year of Brassard and Filatov yet to come.

    Nice to see the Jackets fans finally get rewarded.

    They had a record crowd of more than 19,000 last night.

  24. Lowetide says:

    I think Omark is probably a player. If he were a Red Wing property the organization could point to all of the kids from Europe who have come over and learned their craft in the AHL making minor league $$’s.

    But he’ll want a one-way deal I expect and the Oilers have so many undersized players (Gagner, O’Sullivan, Cogliano the top 3, but also Nilsson, Reddox and others) that Omark (who is 5.09, 170 according to hockeydb) probably doesn’t make the big club.

  25. Scott says:

    But he’ll want a one-way deal I expect and the Oilers have so many undersized players (Gagner, O’Sullivan, Cogliano the top 3, but also Nilsson, Reddox and others) that Omark (who is 5.09, 170 according to hockeydb) probably doesn’t make the big club.

    LT, he can’t get a one-way because he needs to sign an entry-level deal to come over, though he might request that they keep him up or command a big bonus or something.

  26. Dennis says:

    I’ve been in and out on the Hawks game; looking at the lines and seeing how’s matched and wondering where Sharp and Pahlsson will fit in once they come back.

    it looks like Kane’s struggled since his ankle sprain and overall they’ve been probably around .500 for a bit of an extended stretch now? I know they went cold at home for awhile and I don’t know how long it will take Kane to get back.

    BTW, very shocked to see that Peca’s actually played in 58 games this year.

    And, yeah, Scott, I couldn’t believe that Howson landed Vermette for LeClair plus. I thought there was a good chance Vermette would go back to 50 plus points and being an affordable top two pivot.

    Anyway, it’s easy to say that deal looks great but it’s still early. Still, though, doesn’t look like Howson’s made many mis-steps since he’s taken over.

  27. pboy says:

    Bruce: Another Halberstam, Summer of ’49, is definitely worth reading.

    http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2009/03/12/spector_penner/

    In the above article by Mark Spector, he make the assertion about Dustin Penner’s contract; “That deal stands today, league-wide, as arguably the worst contract handed out in the last two seasons. And it’s got three more years to run.”

    This is shoddy journalism at best. So the Flyers, Rangers, Lightening, Leafs and Blackhawks wouldn’t gladly get rid of Briere, Drury and Gomez and Redden, Vinny L, Jason Blake and Brian Campbell’s contracts? Or at least rumour has it, all of those teams were trying at some point during this season.

    Say what you want about Penner, the cost of bringing Penner to the Oilers and the relationship between DP and MacT but there is no way his is the worst poison pill in the league right now.

    There is definitely an agenda behind that article. It will be interesting to see if it’s flushed out.

  28. Scott says:

    Pat Kane getting the Hawks to 4-3 with a PP goal. Man. Ticky tack hooking call on Commodore that leads to a goal after the Jackets were choking them out for the first twelve or thirteen minutes. Seriously, we need to get a PP.

    Quennville pulls the goalie with two minutes to go. Wow.

  29. Scott says:

    Cam Barker takes a huge dive and gets the call. Umberger’s probably pissed.

  30. Scott says:

    Rick Nash out for the 6 on 4 at the end makes the most exciting play in hockey and this one is done.

    FCM, I didn’t see Gratton much at all tonight and don’t remember if he got injured or if Hitch just uses him sparingly. Either way, a good depth pickup at the time and yes, Howson does seem to know what he’s doing.

  31. Fake Craig McTavish says:

    Rick Nash out for the 6 on 4 at the end makes the most exciting play in hockey and this one is done.

    FCM, I didn’t see Gratton much at all tonight and don’t remember if he got injured or if Hitch just uses him sparingly. Either way, a good depth pickup at the time and yes, Howson does seem to know what he’s doing.

    According to BJ fans…and who isn’t…Gratton has seen very limited duty on faceoffs and adding some sandpaper.

    Next year they’re looking at Brassard, Vermette, Peca and Malholtra at centre. Not too shabby.

  32. Bruce says:

    Are you watching the game Bruce? The timing was “impeccable.”

    Nope. But I see Raffi wound up with another game winner, his 4th of the season out of 8 total goals. 2 of them against the Oilers, no?

  33. Bruce says:

    PBoy: Mark Spector is either a tool of the Oilers organization or just a tool, period.

    Lots of contracts worse than Penner’s. Lots.

  34. rickibear says:

    Scott: Been following Omark all year long on:

    SEL

    He is one of 14 players in history who was 22 or younger to be in the top 10 in scoring. Here is the List I posted at HF Boards:

    75-76:
    Kent Nilsson (19yrs) 553GM 264G 422A 686PTS (1.24pts/gm)
    Thomas Gradin (20) 677GM 209G 384A 593PTs (.88pts/gm)
    76-77:
    Bo Berglund (20) 130GM 28G 40A 68Pts (.52Pts/GM)
    77-78:
    Mikko Leinonen (21) 162GM 31G 78A 109Pts (.67Pts/GM)
    78-79: None
    79-80:
    Mats Naslund (20) 651GM 251G 383A 634Pts (.98Pts/GM)
    80-81:None
    81/82:
    Hakan Loob (21) 450GM 193G 236A 429Pts (.96Pts/GM)
    Patrik Sundstrom (20) 676GM 219G 369A 588Pts (.87Pts/GM)
    82/83:
    Tomas Sandstrom (18) 983GM 394G 463A 857Pts (.87Pts/Gm)
    83-84: None
    84-85: None
    85-86: None
    86-87: None
    87-88: None
    88-89:None
    89-90: None
    90-91: None
    91-92: None
    92-93:
    Markus Naslund (20) 1066GM 382G 465A 847Pts (.80Pts/GM)
    Peter Forsberg (20) 706GM 249G 636A 885Pts (1.25Pts/GM)
    93-94: None
    94-95: None
    95-96: None
    96-97: None
    97-98: None
    98-99: None
    99-00:
    H. Sedin (19) 592GM 91G 313A 404Pts (.68Pts/GM)
    D. Sedin (19) 588GM 160G 248A 408Pts (.69Pts/GM)
    00-01:
    Kristian Huselius (22) 500GM 141G 187A 328Pts (.66Pts/GM)
    Henrik Zetterberg (20) 380GM 165G 193A 358Pts (.94Pts/GM)
    01-02: None
    02-03: None
    03-04: None
    05-06:None
    06-07:None
    08-09:
    Linus Omark ????? #3
    Johan Jarju ????? #7

    KyleW posted this on HF Boards

    Omark Highlights

    LT: He just turned Twenty three and belongs to a special list. Sign him now.

  35. Lowetide says:

    Where do you play him?

  36. Scott says:

    RB: I thought that he turned 22 in Feb. Either way the numbers do imply a very good player.

  37. Schitzo says:

    Where do you play him?

    Rowbert’s roster spot should be free by draft day

  38. rickibear says:

    Lt: I think his world championship will say that but those high lights were done in a league with a NHL equivelency of .78 not .44 like the AHL. His skating carriage is not easily pushed off the puck.

    Plus they say he has grown. Lulea site says. 5′ 10.5″ 173LBS.

    The optics of him going to another team(Tampa) and lighting it up.

    Can you imagine TSN trotting out that list and asking the oilers why they did not sign him.

  39. rickibear says:

    Plus I will take .7PPG as a worst case.

  40. rickibear says:

    Scott: This year was his 21yr old year.

  41. PDO says:

    LT… tie Bobby to our first round pick in ’09 and see how far we can move up?

  42. Scott says:

    Plus I will take .7PPG as a worst case.

    As much as I do like Omark, I think that this is silly. The guy could get grief from the coach and tank. He could be put in a position to fail and, well, fail. He could blow out his knee at camp. The worst case is not so rosy.

    Depending on the bonuses, he should also be cheap for the next two years, though I can’t imagine him getting huge money. They could probably pocket about a million bucks moving out Nilsson for Omark. Trying to move Nilsson to move up in the draft (as per DBO’s suggestion) works well because it means we’re not talking salary back. With Nilsson I really have no clue what the market is like. He’s underperformed but the contract isn’t prohibitive and he could bounce back and provide value.

  43. Bank Shot says:

    It’ll be interesting to see if Omark makes the World Championship team this year and how he plays if he does.

    Whether or not the kid is going to make the Oilers next season, they should be bending over backwards to get him under contract. He’s got to be useful as a trading chip if they don’t have room on the team for him.

  44. PDO says:

    DBO hasn’t even posted in this thread and he’s stealing my damn ideas!

  45. rickibear says:

    Scott: For a career. I would take that for a career.

    Would be nice as a worst case. See 21 year od players career numbers on the list.

    Plus if we are playing Hypiteticals. He could not sign. re op for the draft. Tampa drafts him with the the second pick in the second round.

    He starts the year by averaging .87 PPG (.76PPG for 21historically + .1 carreer average drop from ages 18 to 21)

    plus the projecting performance increase from age 21 to 22 which takes him up to .94 PPG in his second year. Nice Optics.

    what I really think is a guy who got 1.04 PPG in a league with an equivalency of .78 better get a shot before guys with .8PPG in a league with .44 equivalency.

  46. Coach pb9617 says:

    I dunno, LT. There are exactly two younguns within the Oilers control that are progressing this year – Peckham and Gagner. All of the other progress is coming from guys outside the sphere of influence.

    The Triple A club is in park and most of the Falcons in your top 20 are stagnant or moving backwards. The organization is in the midst of a big hiccup. I’d give the kid at least the end of the season and a TC with a few more A games to see what shakes out.

  47. Lowetide says:

    Coach: Yeah, it’s reasonable to see him through his entry level deal (which I believe expires summer 2010). And the Falcons are awful and that can certainly obscure offense (the Edmonton Roadrunners were a great example of it).

    Still, he’s been disappointing.

  48. Lowetide says:

    Also, do we really think Nilsson and the Oilers 1st moves them up? Is there a history of that being enough to move up?

  49. PDO says:

    LT.. how could it not be?

    Taking a quick look at the standings.. lets say the Oilers are picking 18th this Spring.

    That’d mean someone like St. Louis is picking in the 10 slot.

    Surely it’s worth it to the Blues, who remained inactive at the deadline this year, to add a roster player while only dropping 8 slots?

  50. Scott says:

    Sorry about that PDO!

    RB: With the worst case thing, it rubs me the wrong way whenever players are given a reasonably successful career as a worst case scenario when the worst case scenario is almost always that the kid never makes the show.

    I mean, what was the “worst case” for Slava Trukhno when he put up 96 points as an 18 y/o in the Q? I doubt there was much in the way of “washed out of the organization without playing an NHL game after his first contract,” but that looks like it’s a possibility.

    I hope Omark turns out and I think he will, but 0.7 PPG over a career is a very good career. I’d certainly take it.

  51. Jonathan Willis says:

    Just for the record – Omark has stated that he’s not at all averse to playing in the AHL if that’s what is required; he really sounds like a big-picture NHL guy.

    I’m not going to say he’ll come over here and be lights out, but the indicators are all pointed the right way, and there’s no harm in giving him (at the very least) a test drive to see exactly what you’ve got.

  52. hunter1909 says:

    Mike Peca and Raffi Torres were simply dynamite together in 2006. Both are bigtime smaller sized hitters, and both were pitifully misused.

    Torres I remember likes someone like a Laraque watching his back, so he can be free to make those killer hits he’s capable of. Too bad he’s a coke head.

    I’ll probably die hoping to see another Mike Peca playing on this team. Intelligent, hard as nails, When motivated simply one of the most ferocious checking centers I’ve ever seen.

    Sighs.

  53. Black Gold says:

    Anyone notice Eberle has 3G 3A and is -3 in his last 3 games?

    Is that a good thing?

  54. Lowetide says:

    PDO: From what I understand this draft is a deep, strong one. Let’s assume that the 10 pick is going to be a Hemsky type and the 18 pick will be Tom Poti.

    Is 2-years of Nilsson at a good salary enough? Is Nilsson established enough as an NHL player to be worth moving up in the first round.

    Last summer at the draft, Brad Richardson was sent away for a 2nd round pick. Is Nilsson more valuable?

    Typical of recent years in terms of trading up have been other draft assets. An example would be the “Schenn trade” in which Toronto dealt pick #7, plus a 3rd rd pick in 2008 and a 2nd rd pick in 2009 for the #5 pick that turned into Schenn.

    I think that’s the market.

    More likely for EDM this summer will be a trade like this one imo:

    June 22, 2007 : To Toronto Maple Leafs: Vesa Toskala and Mark Bell
    To San Jose Sharks : 13th overall pick in 2007 (traded to St. Louis for 1st round pick in 2007, Logan Couture) the 44th overall pick in 2007 (traded to St. Louis) and the 4th round pick in 2009

    Oilers might deal Dustin Penner, Robert Nilsson and the 18th pick to St. Louis for the 10th pick and Jay McKee.

    That kind of thing.

  55. Lowetide says:

    Omark has somewhat the same problem as Robbie Schremp. If we make a list of “undersized players who belong on a skill line” we get:

    1. Gagner
    2. Cogliano
    3. O’Sullivan
    4. Nilsson
    5. Schremp
    6. Omark

    plus we have Eberle and maybe Cornet coming.

    How many can a team reasonably play? And we haven’t even counted Hemsky who is clearly a man (Redline was wrong) but isn’t a physical player either.

    The Oilers are already getting pushed around, how bad do you want to make this?

  56. Coach pb9617 says:

    Still, he’s been disappointing.

    I don’t disagree with that, I’m countering with he ain’t the only one. There was a real problem in the A this year based around personnel and coach and I’m willing to give a whole bunch of guys a second chance. It’s terrible that 3/4 of a year of development was wasted, there is a good chance that most won’t recover from that.

    I’m hoping that Daum and Tambellini straighten out the problems before the kids that aren’t in the org come in soon. If they send Omark, Nash, Eberle and Petry (especially Petry since they wouldn’t trade him) into an organization with no direction, we might as well start writing them off too.

  57. Scott says:

    How many can a team reasonably play? And we haven’t even counted Hemsky who is clearly a man (Redline was wrong) but isn’t a physical player either.

    LT, I think most are arguing for him to take someone’s spot among the smaller forwards (Nilsson) rather than have him be added to them so I don’t think that it compounds this problem as much as it maintains it.

  58. Bank Shot says:

    The Oilers are already getting pushed around, how bad do you want to make this?

    Yea its a real problem, mostly self inflicted too. I’m not sure why the Oilers are still forging ahead on ignoring size considering that the clutch and back is back in a big way, and it has been trending that way since 06-07.

    I remember Matt Greene taking a penalty for taking a hand off his stick and placing it on an opponent’s back behind the net. Now you see a defender wrap his free arm around the forward behind the net and in the corners dozens of times per game.

  59. Dennis says:

    BS: funny that you mention that because, last week in Ott in particular, I couldn’t believe all the obstruction that wasn’t being called.

    For my money, the only call I see being made consistently is the stick under the opposition’s arms or the one in their hands.

    On Omark: at the very least this seems like a guy we can get somewhat excited about and I’ll go with the general consensus that it’s 12′s spot he’ll take. Which will be ironic considering that the first time any Nilsson advice paid off for us, it could be at his son’s expense.

    I still think 12 will bounce back and I think someone will take that contract willingly. We’ve seen what he could do on the PP so a team with a poor PP – yes I appreciate the irony – could take him and he could shove up 50 odd points and finish say +5.

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