We’re Not the Jet Set
This is Glen Sather. If you’re an Oiler fan, this is a day to turn back the clock and cheer like hell for “Slats.” Dany Heatley’s delay on giving the go-ahead on a trade that sees Edmonton loading up on a 1line L gives Sather and the Rangers a window of opportunity.
As I understand it, Heatley would prefer to play in New York City. I think it’s a good move for Heatley, he belongs with the Rangers and hopefully will join a long list of men who have carved out careers elsewhere before playing on Broadway.
In my lifetime, Bernie Geoffrion, Tim Horton, Phil Esposito, Ken Hodge, Derek Sanderson, Barry Beck, Marcel Dionne, Pierre Larouche, John Ogrodnick, Mark Messier, Luc Robitaille, Kevin Lowe, Glenn Anderson, Esa Tikkanen, Glenn Anderson, Wayne Gretzky and a myriad of others have made their reputations elsewhere and arrived in New York as famous men.
This is a better stage for Heatley, and it’s certainly in keeping with Sather’s team building methods since arriving in New York. Buy high, sell low. Pay now, pay later. It looks for all the world like today will be a bidding war between the Oilers and the Rangers, with Cogliano, Penner and Smid (PLUS) representing the Oilers side and a plethora of young talent (well, the few young players who haven’t been sent away) from the Rangers side.
Late last night on the epic thread below, poster and friend PDO dropped a bomb courtesy Daren Millard:
- Heatley didn’t kill it. the oilers are on the list and he confirmed it with his agent.
- Still has to approve it etc- rangers have entered the fray. package is getting better.
- Callahan, Dubinsky and del zotto and are improving it.
- Senators still want mark staal.
- Rangers are top priority- oilers are still fully in this thing and they will improve the package to keep with the rangers.
- Sens are still talking with both teams and will squeeze both teams.
- Penner and cogliano have been informed they were traded
- Millard believes this is the rangers deal to lose.
- Millard believes the sens want staal or nothing.
- Oilers-Sens deal is still on the table.
- It’s Tambellini vs Glen Sather tomorrow.
My thanks to PDO for posting it and apologies to Mr. Millard if anything is untrue or misrepresented. We need to cheer like hell for Glen Sather today. The Rangers should win this battle, it’s what they do. The Oilers can return to building a team brick by brick.
The draft, intelligent free agent additions, smart trades. Measured and reasonable. Please.
What is Chad LaRose going to get?
I know he was a 3C in CAR, can he play defense?
Tambellini better have some bloated cap space coming off the books and start signing some value contracts today or I'm off the Tamb train.
PDO: Fair enough, but why take any risk when you have Biron available as well?
Is Khabi any better than Biron?
Smarmy
Biron is a proven #1 and young enough that we don't get stuck with the cap if he checks out early.
Almost all of the other goalies on the list do not have both of these aspects.
Everyone who was knocking Biron @ 3MM/yr, here's a quick SV% comparison, post-lockout:
2005-06: Biron .905, Khabi .886
2006-07: Biron .903, Khabi .902
2007-08: Biron .918, Khabi .909
2008-09: Khabi .919, Biron .915
Plus Khabibulin's older. Why couldn't they sign Biron?
Right now I'm trying to focus on how Staios outplayed Bouwmeester at the WHC 2008…
grasping at straws and all that.
Willis
reports were that Biron wanted over $5MM
If Khabibulin plays well, there is always the possibility of trading him to a desparate Philadelphia or Chicago team.
That is, if the good Khabibuling shows up.
RO
Khabby is not a value contract.
Plus Khabibulin's older. Why couldn't they sign Biron?
Because Biron doesn't fool enough people into thinking we have a chance next year. I swear their only motivation in early July is selling false hope and newspapers.
RO
Khabby is not a value contract.
Yeah I got fooled by this last year. Checking back over the previous four years, his performance has been subpar.
Carry on.
Does the fact that that on Sportsnet Doug MacLean is now trumpeting our signing of Khabbibulin make anyone else feel worse about this deal?
Chris: It makes me feel worse- sadder.
Chris: That's the same Doug MacLean who criticized the Sedins for winning only three playoff rounds in 8 years.
Yes, it makes me feel worse.
Deano: I don't buy it. Especially given what goalies have been going for and how many spots are left for them to land.
How old was Roli when we signed him in 2006?
deja vu all over again, but Khabby is better now than Dwayne was then.
Did we not learn?
Cole signs for a 2.9 M / year over 2 years.
AAAAAGGGHHH. I'm stuck at work, so I don't have TSN2, so I'm forced to listen to Doug MacLean and Nick Kypreos yelling at each other.
Although it is comical to listen to Doug MacLean yelling "THAT'S BAD MANAGEMENT" and not be referring to himself.
This has not been a good couple of days to be an Oilers fan.
I was hoping the the stank of desperation around here during free agency would have left with Vish, but alas, no.
Well it should of been obvuious when they hired a 70 year old head coach that the idea of a slow and steady rebuild is dead. Trading Cogliano, siging a 36 year old goalie, this team is shooting for a couple of years of fighting for 6-8 spots and anything past the next couple of years is anybodys guess. So basically Kevin Lowe is still in charge.
Willis
Not sure what his camp was saying today, but that's why the Flyers went with Emery and Boucher.
Pretty sure Biron got his reality adjusted today. Have fun in Russia.
Shit.
I'm going to start figuring out how to build a time machine and shoot or bribe things around until I'm watching Scott Howson on tv as our GM….
Would love to see an actual timeline of his assistant GM period and his transistion over to CBJ. We seem to be drifting further and further away from legitimacey at the same time they're moving closer.
Were I hired as a GM I'd hire Doug MacLean as my assistant GM/advisor just to see what ideas of mine he agreed with. When he agreed I'd wholly abandon the notion and move in another direction.
I can't believe there is freaking Tennis on TSN for another half hour. Who watches men play tennis on Canada day..at least if it was the women I would understand.
Is Florida trading Vokoun?
I wonder if Iginla is available.
The guy's only ever won three playoff series.
What a bust.
Chris, I like your idea, but I'd take it another step further. Add MacLean AND Pierre McGuire. If they both like it, do the EXACT opposite.
Guess what they both think of the Khabibulin signing…
And hear, hear on the tennis. Frustrating.
And on the flip side, shoot the moon for Conklin. That dude wins everywhere he goes.
Although I doubt that MacLean will point out how much better Howson is than he was… for the right reasons or not.
Can we trade Penner, Cogs, Smid and Kabi for…nevermind.
Ian Laperrire to philly – he would have been worth a million a year
Flyers sign Ian Laperierre – 3 years, $3.5MM total
We could have done this no?
I'd have gone to 4M to top Philly.
But .5M isn't enough to play in the Arctic Circle, so it wouldn't work.
TSN taught me geography.
TSN said the Rags are no longer offering Dubinsky in the package for Heatley.
Even if we win, not much of a prize.
Oh no! McGuire likes the signing too.
Lapierre is signed to a reasonable contract but he's really nothing special.
If the Rags are changing their package then swap Cogliano for Schremp.
Or even better swap Smid for Staios.
And if Ottawa isn't game then Murray can explain to Melnyk why he has to pay 4 million to Heater.
If they can't even get Dubinsky, why the hell would we still offer Cogliano.
Take your pick of Nilsson Sugartits Poo OMarra 'former first rounders'. Shit, take them all.
Hal Gill to Montreal, 2 years $4.5 total. Gainey's lost his mind.
Then again, there's not too many 6 foot 15 300 lb defenders out there.
Smarmy
because we can't be sure its true.
There is no reason to change our offer. If it was okay last night, its okay now. Gotta fight the laughing-stock rep.
If Tambellini could change the trade with Ottawa to Penner, Staois and Nilson the money wouldn't even be that bad.
As I said earlier the only fans who must be more depressed than us right now must be Habs fans. Their GM is doing weird things with all the capspace he had and burning assets in the process.
Chris, that gets him GM of the year in my books.
Tambs should throw Murray over the coals right now.
Speeds:
They took some risk, because I think they see potential for huge reward, especially the first 2-3 years.
I mean, we could've signed a guy like Anderson or Clemmenson – but then the risk isn't so much the dollars, but the SV%.
Our offer was good last night but that was last night.
I wish the Rangers would sign Havlat. Then Murray has to go to the woodshed with Tambo.
Nothing wrong with the Gill signing. He's a legit second-pairing option.
How come the Oilers aren't offering Staios to Montreal, considering who Montreal has been signing?
Considering the offer to Neil, it looks like Katz is willing to bury Nilsson and Pouliot in the AHL if need be.
Godot10: Bury Pouliot? He's going to be the only guy they can afford.
just so that those of you still hanging out here know, LT started a new page and the discussion has moved on…
Bury Pouliot in the minors?
Did the captain change the spelling of his name?
Considering the offer to Neil, it looks like Katz is willing to bury Nilsson and Pouliot in the AHL if need be.
Yep, going to be some creative roster work to get this group under the cap, even without Heatley. Ryan Potulny can basically guarantee himself a roster spot this year if he asks for a one-way contract at the league minimum.
No Madden yet… Good thing I abandoned that dream a while ago…
I already know what the have in Jeff Deslauriers – an average AHL goaltender.
What's wrong with Hal Gill?
Wasn't he one of the shutdown top 4 guys for the reigning Stanley Cup champs this year?
Sounds like a good deal for just over $2 million per.
Hall Gill has the footspeed of Cory Cross. That's the problem.
This team is obsessed with the idea of looking competitive.
Look at the bright side! By no marquee players willing to sign with EDM, they will inevitably end up with a ton of cap space. Once the salary cap drops, the top UFA's in the next couple years will have NO CHOICE but to sign with the OIL because it will be the only place left with ANY MONEY. Schedule the Stanley Cup parade for June 15th 2014!