Crossroads for Trukhno

2009-10 will be Slava Trukhno’s third season in the American Hockey League. It’ll be an important one considering all the forwards who’ll turn pro next summer and for Trukhno it’s vital that he establish himself as viable option for NHL play.

In his two AHL seasons Trukhno has been well off the pace in terms of expectations. Here’s a random list of Oilers draft picks and their AHL seasons at ages 20 and 21. Men who made the NHL grade (at least 80 games) at some level are in bold. Brackets are points-per-game.

20-year olds
  1. Rob Schremp 69gp, 17-36-53 (.768)
  2. Jarret Stoll 76gp, 21-33-54 (.711)
  3. Marc Pouliot 65gp, 15-30-45 (.692)
  4. JF Jacques 65gp, 24-20-44 (.677)
  5. Kyle Brodziak 56gp, 6-26-32 (.571)
  6. Slava Trukhno 64gp, 14-21-35 (.547)

21-year olds

  1. Rob Schremp 78gp, 23-53-76 (.974)
  2. Marc Pouliot 33gp, 14-17-31 (.939)
  3. JF Jacques 29gp, 10-17-27 (.931)
  4. Liam Reddox 65gp, 16-28-44 (.677)
  5. Kyle Brodziak 55gp, 12-19-31 (.564)
  6. Slava Trukhno 56gp, 7-19-26 (.464)

22-year olds

  1. Kyle Brodziak 62gp, 24-32-56 (.903)
  2. Marc Pouliot 55gp, 21-26-47 (.855)
  3. JF Jacques 38gp, 11-14-25 (.658)
  4. Rob Schremp 69gp, 7-35-42 (.609)

As a 20-year old Trukhno trailed the skilled men and the two-way prospects, in fact he’s at the tail end of pretty much all of the AHL regular forwards who played in the Oilers organization 2001-09. The following season he went the wrong way and at this point he’d have to make a massive step forward to earn a mention among the team’s best AHL prospects.

Trukhno has talent. His junior numbers suggested a quality player but it has not converted to the pro level and he’s running out of time.

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48 Responses to "Crossroads for Trukhno"

  1. Racki says:

    Last year our AHL team was a black hole for offense (save for Potulny, and Brule to a lesser extent), the year before there wasn't much to cheer about all around either, so I wonder if Trukhno gets a bit of a free pass for that. Is he just a product of a very poor AHL team?

  2. Lowetide says:

    Racki: Maybe a little, but the good players–the ones who make the NHL–rise above the levels of Trukhno. There's not a lot of good news in these numbers.

  3. B.C.B. says:

    By now, I consider Trukhno to be a failed prospect. Never really been a fan of his game. But I am no expect (or even a decent amateur) in rating prospects. It would be nice to see Trukhno pick up the offensive and stick around for next season (but if I was betting on him it would be another disappointing season and a ticket to the KHL the following one).

  4. PDO says:

    Sorry to thread jack again.

    Tanguay signed in Tampa Bay…

    "Oilers management has consulted at least one member of the veteran leadership group regarding Mike Comrie. It's appears to be serious.

    Also, I'm told that Comrie is fully on board with a return to Edmonton. "

    - Dan Tencer.

  5. Racki says:

    PDO: Wow, crazy from Dan Tencer. I'm gitty with excitement that our management is actually doing something, yet disappointed that it's for a player we don't need. lol

  6. PDO says:

    Only makes sense if there's a 2 or 3 for one deal in place involving forwards.

  7. Hockey Noob says:

    Racki, lol. Yeah, I find myself really excited over the Mike Comrie news and not actually because I am too crazy about him coming back, lol. It portends that something else is actually going to happen.

  8. Traktor says:

    Tambellini must have a deal in place that sends Gagner or Cogliano out of town. I suspect Tambellini will sell low and move the wrong guy.

  9. Lowetide says:

    We should make a list of players that Mike Comrie is clearly better than right now.

  10. PDO says:

    LT:

    In the top 9?

    Nilsson, Pouliot and MAYBE Moreau?

    He might be about a wash right now with Cogliano and Gagner… but both are so damn close to breaking out I don't think that's a fair comparison.

  11. digger says:

    It's official:

    The Edmonton Oilers have decided to just wing this mother.

    Fasten your ****ing seat belts…this may get a little weird.

  12. quain says:

    Clearly better than Nilsson and Pouliot? He just went 10-17-27 in 63 GP with a -15. The year before wasn't much better.

    He was reasonably decent in 06-07, and I'll admit the Islander-effect was probably pretty pronounced… but I have a hard time writing his name in pen above anyone on the roster, including Moreau.

    And that doesn't mean a flyer for $1.3M is necessarily a bad idea, it just means we're rolling the dice that the Islander-effect was that large.

  13. Traktor says:

    Comrie has scored 30 goals twice in his career.

    No current Oiler has ever scored 25 goals in a season.

  14. bookie says:

    Why would Oiler management consult with team leaders, I thought Katz was running things like a mad dictator…

    It was 6 years ago and Comrie has few options – of course he is fine with returning to Edmonton.

  15. quain says:

    Well, Petr Sykora and Miroslav Satan are available too.

  16. Traktor says:

    "Well, Petr Sykora and Miroslav Satan are available too."

    Comrie isn't even 30 yet.

    Satan is 36 years old and Sykora need a new hip.

  17. Coach pb9617 says:

    No current Oiler has ever scored 25 goals in a season.

    YOU ARE WRONG.

  18. kris says:

    I'm beggining to think that everything we've seen this offseason suggests that the Oilers think Gagner is ready for tough minutes. That is, they want Comrie to come in for a soft minutes role.

    Think about it. If Gagner is ready, then the following line up works, in descending order of toughness of minutes:

    Penner-Gagner-Hemsky
    O'Sulivan-Horcoff-Pisani
    Cogliano-Comrie-Pouliot
    Moreau-Brule-Stortini

    Of course, there's no reason to believe Gagner's ready for that kind of role, but not adding a 3C and adding a soft second liner really only makes sense if management thinks they have two tough minute centers. makes sense if management is going to throw Gagner to the wolves.

    Samwise is headed for Mordor.

    I'd say Trukhno has passed the crossroads in the title of LT's post. Now he has to work his way back to them and take a different route.

  19. Coach pb9617 says:

    If they sign Comrie at $1.3 and pass on Tanguay at $2.6, someone should lose a job.

  20. Traktor says:

    "YOU ARE WRONG."

    Right you are – Souray scored 26 with the Habs.

    I didn't list him though because he's easily replaced by Greg Zanon.

  21. Coach pb9617 says:

    Right you are – Souray scored 26 with the Habs.

    Keep going…

  22. PDO says:

    Anyone else have a mental image of Coach's head slowly expanding?

  23. Traktor says:

    How could I forget Penner?

    Well at least Comrie did it in Oiler silks.

  24. PDO says:

    Just to be clear:

    If Comrie comes here, he has to play on the wing.

  25. Scott says:

    C'mon Traktor….

    Penner and Souray

  26. Scott says:

    Dammit… refresh, then post.

  27. Lowetide says:

    They should try Penner with Horcoff and Hemsky. That might work and I don't think they've tried it.

  28. kris says:

    PDO:

    I'd rather have Pouliot at C than Comrie, but I think it's even more important to get Cogliano to the wing

  29. Coach pb9617 says:

    I really don't see a place in Springfield where he can be productive. It looks like he might end up on a line with that fella that fights fans.

  30. PDO says:

    BTW:

    Pujols is the man.

  31. Tyler says:

    Fasten your ****ing seat belts…this may get a little weird.

    You say that when the sex starts too?

  32. flamingpavelbure says:

    Kris: What the shit no Nilsson on the 2nd line? WHY SO MUCH DAMN LOVE FOR PISANI? He never had a better season statwise, (Season not playoffs) than Nilsson's first year, and he's old with no potential, while Nilsson is young with Potential.

  33. Lowetide says:

    flamingpavelbure: Pisani's problem is injuries. When healthy he can contribute while playing tough opposition and has proven to be an outstanding mentor to young forwards.

    Pisani is the Oilers 2nd most valuable RW.

  34. flamingpavelbure says:

    Lowetide: Yes but even healthy, he has proved, that he will never be a super option on a WINNING team, might be okay now, but now, we know we won't win like that, so why not gamble?

  35. Coach pb9617 says:

    Why do people hate outscorers?

  36. Lowetide says:

    What are you talking about? Last season, he played the toughest opposition available (according to Desjardins) and scored 7 goals in half a season playing with subpar linemates.

    I like Nilsson, I really do. But the Oilers have too many of his player type and none on RW like Pisani. Call them two-way wingers, call them checkers, call them complete players, call them whatever the hell you want but Edmonton has exactly one right winger who fits the description (plus an exceptional talent in Hemsky).

    Nilsson has potential, but the Oilers have a bunch of those guys. Pisani plays a man's game in the toughest league on the planet.

    The only thing he has to prove is that he can stay healthy. If he can, he'll be an extremely valuable player.

  37. flamingpavelbure says:

    LT: Yeah but playing a full season, he still would have only 30 points… not enough for a 3rd liner.

  38. Lowetide says:

    flamingpavelbure: Pisani scored 15 points in half a season playing the toughest minutes on the team and playing with some of the poorest available options.

    If he were to play with better linemates the numbers would improve. If he were to play against easier opposition, same thing.

    Robert Nilsson would have been killed carrying Pisani's load last season.

  39. flamingpavelbure says:

    I don't think stats are always super right. While Pisani did play ''tougher'' opposition, it usually means the other players he faced had more points, but it also means the play was more open, so he certainly got more points because of that. And for the teamates part, sometimes, it just fits. Just look at Prospal with the Bolts, Vinny and Marty always insisted on having the Guy, same for miettinen in Dallas. And for Higgins and Ryder for Koivu in Montreal. Still, even if he had better linemates and such, what would have that acomplished? 5 more points? that would still be around Nilsson's numbers. And still it doesn't kill the arguement that Nilsson as opposed to Pisani can become more than a 2nd liner. Btw, i've only been an Oilers fan since, last year and a half. Can someone tell me what did Comrie exactly did, that requires a locker room's consultation for his signing?

  40. R O says:

    I don't think stats are always super right.

    Then what is super right? Surely opinion must also be backed up by fact.

    While Pisani did play ''tougher'' opposition, it usually means the other players he faced had more points

    No it means his opposition was the best at outscoring.

    but it also means the play was more open

    False.

    he certainly got more points because of that

    False.

    And for the teamates part, sometimes, it just fits.

    Prove it.

    Still, even if he had better linemates and such, what would have that acomplished?

    The difference between the best and worst outscorers on the Oilers is as wide as the Grand Canyon. My ten-second look at it says it's a difference of something like an extra two goals per 60 minutes. I think that's a stat you could appreciate.

  41. Bruce says:

    PDO: Phat Albert is indeed the man. I think tonight's walk-off homer achieved low earth orbit.

  42. Bruce says:

    They should try Penner with Horcoff and Hemsky. That might work and I don't think they've tried it.

    LT: I was eating chow mein when I read that. Have you ever snorted a noodle? Not fun, but worth it.

  43. NBOilerFan says:

    Well, it sure looks like the dam is about to break as far as player movement goes. I think there were two key players which were holding back some other deals all hinged on, those being Heatley and Tanguay.

    With reports that Tanguay has signed with TB and San Jose has started to shed talent to make space for Heatley, I can imagine we will start to see several other player movement deals happening between now and training camp.

    Vancouver now is $2mil over the cap and need to shed a D-man. There are several more deals going to go down in the next couple weeks, not to mention there are still some decent UFA's out there.

    I also don't see Comrie ending up in Ottawa as some speculate as the Sens will be getting a couple quality player back in whatever Heatley deal they accept. If anything, Murray might have to shed a player depending on what he gets back. So a Comrie to Edmonton deal is slightly more likely I think because of that.

    The following season he went the wrong way and at this point he'd have to make a massive step forward to earn a mention among the team's best AHL prospects.

    … and to earn a mention in a LT blog post which he is the subject.

  44. ian says:

    Are the Oilers the NHL version of Hoarders?
    Pick it up inspect it, can't bring themselves to part with it just in case there may be a need for another ice cream pail
    [I didn't start that analogy]
    Also how would you guys rate our smurfs for sandpaper e.g. Nilson B+ etc

  45. Master Lok says:

    oh good lord flamingpavelbure.

    You've come to the wrong website if you're going to try convince people that Nilsson is better than Pisani using nothing than your opinion. Try going to hfboards for stuff like that.

    Next you'll be making LT pull all his hair out when you spout that Schremp is more deserving of the first line centre spot than Horcoff.

  46. Schitzo says:

    ian: That distinction has to go to Tampa Bay. Didn't they have something like 18 NHL forwards at one point last year?

  47. Masamax says:

    I think he DOES have a point in there somewhere, in that, at his best, Nilsson has the flair and skill to be a legit 2nd line RW, perhaps more so than Pisani, who I think we can all agree has the heart and hockey sense, but not quite the hands, to be most team's choice for that role. As a 3rd line, tough minutes outscorer, he is fantastic of course.

    However, Nilsson does not play his best most nights (or even close). So we can say with some conviction that Nilsson, should be become more consistent, would be a better option than Pisani at RW. We'd all be lying to ourselves if we didn't get on and off the Nilsson train at least a couple times last season.

  48. Black Dog says:

    bure – that 06 club was pretty good iirc and Pisani was a key part of their success, playoffs and regular season

    One of the reason they have been the suck these past two seasons is because he's missed so many games.

    Believe it or not?

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