Canucks at Oilers PS G8/09-10
Cut-down day for the Edmonton Oilers is apparently tomorrow (they have until Wednesday). A bunch of young men will be driving to the airport in the next few days and the waiver wire may mean a couple don’t return to good old our town as Oilers.
The drama has probably been mitigated (at least somewhat) because of injuries to forwards Marc Pouliot, Ethan Moreau and Fernando Pisani (Pisani was the only one who was at practice yesterday).
Jason Gregor has been reporting lately that the Predators may have interest in one of Edmonton’s veteran forwards and that may happen as well. Would the organization feel that getting a second round pick for Nilsson (and keeping someone like Ryan Stone) is better than risking waivers? Seems reasonable, as does placing Pouliot on IR to begin the season.
There are no lineups so far but I’ll post them when they appear. The Oilers get one last look at the bubble boys and someone may step up and grab a job even this late. I’d say both Jacques and Stone are on the team and that Schremp and Reddox are not but those are just guesses on my part.
And since this season is once again about watching the youngsters develop and waiting another day to fight, here’s a couple of encouraging updates:
- Slava Trukhno scored twice in a pre-season win for Springfield.
- MPS played significant (14) minutes and scored for Timra in the first SEL regular season game for his team.
UPDATE: The lines.
- Horcoff-Jacques-Hemsky: Looks like this line has some traction and coach Quinn will run with the big Q kid. Can he pot 20 on Hemmer’s wing?
- O’Sullivan-Penner-Comrie: O’Sullivan and the little Brick man have real chemistry and Penner should help out this line in the offensive zone. The questions revolve around bleeding the other way and we shall see. Penner’s in the Stone spot here.
- Gagner-Cogliano-Stortini: Interesting line, Stortini gets a push and if he could ever score 15 goals on a line with two munchkins the Oilers would solve some problems.
- (possibly Brule-Reddox-MacIntyre): No confirmation I can find currently but if the veterans are injured this might be the 4line. Brule certainly has gotten the push (this will be his 5th game) and is the only one of the three certain to be part of the opening night lineup.
- Souray-Staios: Two veterans who should be able to handle things down low.
- Grebeshkov-Gilbert: I see a bunch of “Gilbert sucks” comments all over the internet, I wonder if people know his pre-season stats are 4gp, 2-4-6 +5. I suspect Grebs wears the urban sombrero tonight and plays well.
- Visnovsky-Smid: This is an interesting combination. I think we might see it from time to time this winter.
- Khabibulin-Deslauriers: Habby gets the start, hopefully doesn’t over handle the puck.
Bruce – preseason is almost over, you weren't really worried, were you?
bookie – lol – hey I hope I eat my words, remember, but you're going to need something to even it out if you're this high after one period of a preseason game
nice period though, here's hoping
BDHS: I don't know what is more upsetting: Diane Lane leaving a room or the pork situation. Either way, your wife will be pissed and it's all your fault.
Whenever I'm in that kind of trouble, I like to confuse my wife by using words like louvre and spatula.
NB –
This is first-half Sam.
When he realises that the season starts in October and not Feb, he'll be TWICE as good!
"JFJ = this year's Milan Lucic?
Has someone already proposed that?
Am I deluded?"
Kessel and Savard were magic together.
Horcoff and Hemsky are good, but not that good.
Lucic is a better skater than JFJ too.
All that being said, I'm really looking forward to seeing them play together.
If for nothing other than to watch JFJ beat the crap out of Regehr a few times.
Speaking of, better take RedOx off the shorty line and put Zorg there so Gagner can live to see the regular season.
Gagner and Cogs will be facing 3rd line opposition, that will open up some space for them I suspect.
Those were nice goals. I hope we have a season of those…
Two goals by his line, and that bum Penner doesn't even have a point.
Brother has 2 S.
That would be two Staples
Bruce – preseason is almost over, you weren't really worried, were you?
Actually, yes. Visnovsky was -5 throu 3 games and looked tentative when he didn't look flat out brutal. As for Hemsky, last year he never showed up until November. The couple games I've seen him this camp he looked like PCS might still be an issue. So yes, I was concerned.
good period. if spaghettigo gets hurt this year, the 'nucks are in for it. 'nucks.
Coach: Yeah I was going to mention "unofficial assists". Penner's got two of them already tonight fersher.
Brother has 2 S.
That would be two Staples
DStaples gives out 'assists' based upon whether or not you help a goal get scored or not. Touching the puck is not a factor. Screening, raising hell in front of the net, clearing space, etc…
Nice rush by Hemsky, but that two-foot pass by Horcoff was pure gold.
Stupid wolverines.
And the dog just slept through the whole thing. What the hell.
Not my fault though. Its that damn Grebeshkov.
Fuck Hemsky! It's PRESEASON!
Two more fine puck possession plays by Penner, one on O'Brien in the corner and one backchecking on Bieksa in the neutral zone. The big guy sure knows how to get that mammoth frame in the way of the bad guys.
We're doomed!
It's nice to see this Shirokov fellow. Hope he gets sent down to Manitoba this year. We need some offensive punch with Krog, Jaffray and Cullen all gone for sure and Grabner likely with the Nucks.
Salo = Boom
Wooo
Brutal giveaway by Gilbert right in front … and there's a second.
Bruce, maybe I'm misremembering, as Roger would say, but Hemsky was averaging over a PPG for the first fifteen games or so, iirc. Led the league in PPG on the road, I'm pretty sure? At least until the end of that awful seventeen to eighteen games they started the year with when they were on the road for most of it.
No?
Rod's right, that's off Visnovky. Don't think Khabibulin had a chance.
Not my fault though. Its that damn Grebeshkov.//
Meaning he's been letting you at his stash, I guess!
Gilbert forgot the tinfoil hat tonight.
JFJ /=/ Lucic
Lucic, once in juniors, checked 3 guys in 20 seconds, than fighted the 4th guy coming in, and he owned him. That and and making Mike Van Ryn feel like he was just checked by a bear.
Does the entire team know how to cycle? Lordy, they Canucks are amazing at that.
Bruce, maybe I'm misremembering
Roger, you misremember. In 9 games last October Hemsky had 0 goals and 0 plus games (net -4). Scored a few PP assists but produced the mean square root of fuck all at evens. Woke up in November when Penner went on his line, and was real good from then until he got tootooed.
There's some tape for remedial watching. Holy shit.
Cogliano looked like he got hurt on that play.
Maybe we do need a new building. We've had Shitty Second Period Syndrome in this one since forever. No sign of a cure.
I am not sure if anyone has mentioned this before, but we seem to have some challanges on the PK.
Shirokov is like Bure and Mogilny, except Shirokov can pass too
F*#^. Cogliano down and a tie game.
F*^%.
This is like watching my son's game this afternoon. Good 1st period, lousy 2nd.
Best line of the game came from his coach, (Stu Grimson), "just cause you played one good period does not mean you don't have to work in the 2nd.
They're not going to have to cut anybody, guys keep going down.
Bruce – you're like Garcia on Criminal Minds, eh? With the data I mean. Are you in a room surrounded by dozens of computers spitting out stats?
Not my fault though. Its that damn Grebeshkov.
At least you know he brings the good stuff.
Cogliano's back out.
Phew.
They're not going to have to cut anybody, guys keep going down.
Schremp has his voodoo doll going full tilt.
And now Gagner's down.
F*#^
Toskala's let in seven so far tonight. Looks like the Leafs have fixed their goaltending issues.
Penner's looking much better this season. No KFC stains on his jersey either.
Jacques damn good.
Jacques (Horcoff,Souray)
Wow, new fit and healthy JFJ.
But … how long before Jacques cracks his back?
I always knew that MacT was just holding JFJ down.
Oh poo.
That must have been goalie interference somehow. Clearly.
Well I just saw another beautiful PP goal, this time by Jacques.
So coach, its beyond good. Its completely fucking mental.
I don't know what the season holds, but it seems to me like excitement and stress may be big!
JF Jacques. Lordy. Great vision by both Hemsky and Horcoff there.
Are you in a room surrounded by dozens of computers spitting out stats?
BDHS: Nope, one little laptop with a split screen. Game on one side, 'net on the other. All those game logs are stored at hockey-reference.com. It's up to me to remember the basics ("Hemsky = shitty October"), then it's a quick trip to HR to back it up with the stats.
The key link, however, is the remembering part.
I know Reddox is the redheaded stepchild but man I like his game. I think he'll have an NHL career.
Entertaining, ne c'est pas?
If they had a veteran RH center they could be entertaining and effective too. Is that so fricking difficult?
If they had a veteran RH center they could be entertaining and effective too. Is that so fricking difficult?
Chill, LT, its coming.
So is death.
LOL
How many times is Rod gonna use the word 'Knife' today? Did he always do this? or did somebody teach him a new word over the summer to help 'spice' things up a bit?
Lowetide said…
I know Reddox is the redheaded stepchild but man I like his game. I think he'll have an NHL career.
He does have a nice game. Its just unfortunate for him that we have so many small bodies at the same time.
Reddox could also be one of those extra peices in a potential trade deal.
…. you know, like the 5th piece in a deal for Kovalchuk.
Brule does this wierd hoppy thing when he skates/hits…
I'm sure it's been mentioned, but I like this Cogliano on the PK idea.
Zach Parise wishes he were JFJ.
I love seeing Hodgson perform well but shit.
Great hands by Hodgson? That was all Erhoff.
Well this PK is way better than MacT's.
Ehrhoff! Woo :-0
MacIntyre is a very poor skater.
Great job Staios. I see Bergeron's been teaching you.
Canucks score on this PP, Game-winning goal, and then Staios gets sent out.
I could support that.
LT: Yeah; you can see the effort though.
I've never had any trouble understanding Traktor's love of Cogliano, who is going to be a terrific hockey player.
Cogs draws the penalty, man alive he's a handful to contain when he puts on the afterburners.
Fishy call though.
These EnMax/ExecuTrade adds better be preseason only.
Which is exactly why I'm happy Cogliano is still on the club.
Brule and Hanssen on the undercard bout.
Maybe he realized he's in tough for a roster spot and is trying to do anything he can to impress.
I approve.
Creme Brule?
Brule bleeds. I think he'd already won the 4line C job but it's been a good night for him.
1. Horcoff
2. Comrie
3. Gagner
4. Brule
Is that the depth chart at C?
I somehow doubt Cogliano ever puts up big point totals. I think he'll be a good hockey player when the two-way game comes around, but I doubt he's ever a good enough powerplay guy to put up huge numbers.
Brule just got beat by a Dane :-0
LT:
Given line chemistry, I prefer;
Horcoff
Comrie
Gagner
Brule
I don't believe Brule hung in there like he did, guy is like a dynamo, just keeps going. Too bad he's so small and gets knocked around all the time on the ice whenever I see him.
Gagner, what the hell was that?
Darcy Hordichuk, showing why he doesn't get defensive zone draws.
Visnovsky had no business coming up with that puck.
Cogliano has to improve only a little to be a 25-goal man. That's a very valuable player, especially if he can improve without the puck.
LT:
I don't disagree, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he never topped the 60-point mark.
Ah, gotcha. Yes, I agree.
Jesus Souray
3 PP goals against.
Ho-hum.
Shiropov?
Bless you, Rod.
Smid Staios can never be on the ice with Horcoff's line or Comrie's line.
PJ Oil: Yeah. It's kind of a concern but developing these kids 10 at a time is more important.
You see, no same sex couples on the smooch-cam. Alberta is clearly homophobic.
You see, no same sex couples on the smooch-cam. Alberta is clearly homophobic.
ALBERTA IS HOMO-NOTHING, PAL!
Yeti: bwa ha haha!
Steve Staios, penalty.
Colour me shocked.
Staois is clearly concerned that, without Moreau on the ice, the Oilers won't have enough opportunity to practice their PK.
4-on-4 who do you want out there?
Yeti: Well, as veteran leaders, they do whatever they can to help the youngsters on the team learn.
LT:
Cogliano/Penner
4-on-4 who do you want out there?
Make it more difficult.
4 on 4 and Horcoff and Hemsky just ended a shift.
Followed by Horcoff/Hemsky. I agree.
I don't disagree, but it wouldn't surprise me at all if he never topped the 60-point mark.
You mean Todd Marchants career high?
Coach: I'd go Cogs/Penner (as Jonathan mentioned) and if 10/83 needed more time I might send out O'Sullivan/Jacques or Comrie.
You see, no same sex couples on the smooch-cam. Alberta is clearly homophobic.
Clearly you forgot the ever popular girl-on-girl smooch action.
boopronger: Career high? Surely he did it a few times after Doug MacLean paid him for that kind of performance?
Coach: I'd go Cogs/Penner (as Jonathan mentioned) and if 10/83 needed more time I might send out O'Sullivan/Jacques or Comrie.
Is Penner taking the draw for you?
Last fall at a pre-season game a girl flashed the crowd when I was there. God love women.
Coach: Yep.
PJ Oil: Yeah. It's kind of a concern but developing these kids 10 at a time is more important.
Keep hanging on LT, you won't be able to use that line next year.
I hope…
Coach: or one of the defensemen.:-)
That's not a penalty?
Nice effort by POS nonetheless.
DG: There's no call for "mugging".
How is that not a hold on Sully?
Last fall at a pre-season game a girl flashed the crowd when I was there. God love women.
Women don't do that. You love 20-something girls.
JW,
He must have, because no player can have a career high playing for the oilers.
My choices would be:
Penner / O'Sullivan
Pisani / Cogliano
Penner / Cogliano
Pisani / Comrie
Women don't do that.
You've never been to a Jimmy Buffet concert.
Or a winery tour weekend.
I hate to depress people, but if Lubomir Visnovsky has a rough first half (and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest) this team could be in some trouble.
I hate to depress people, but if Lubomir Visnovsky has a rough first half (and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest) this team could be in some trouble.
Oh yeah – we're all rainbows and unicorns around here.
Visnovsky with the nasty hit.
Well, if you turn your back at the last second you deserve the hit.
I think Lubo is one of the guys we shouldn't worry over. He might have some rust to work off but then again the Oilers are deep at the position.
Vish = Dirty Silk?
Bookie: Except that Sedin had his back the whole way and just chose not to turn sideways, probably because he figured Visnovsky wouldn't finish.
That was a fairly bad hit, but Lubo by no means drilled him or anything. If he had wanted he could have gone Gary Roberts on him.
I am starting to think that JFJ could make this team.
It was a Sedin. He should have gone Gary Suter on him.
LT: Except that last year, I would have said that Horcoff was a guy not to worry about.
As deep as this team is on D, they don't have another guy at Visnovsky's level.
What's with the music?
Coach: You are kidding, right?
Strudwick and Smid is an interesting choice for a 4 on 3 kill.
PK comes through when it matters.
Coach: You are kidding, right?
Yes. I like the Sedins.
If it was Matt Cooke, I wouldn't be.
Bookie: Remember, it's not the percentages, it's the BIG kills
We win a faceoff, we win a game.
Tom fucking Gilbert.
Nice.
~Trade Tom Gilbert immediately.~
That was fun
im picturing the smugness fade from Temujins face.
Tom Gilbert sucks.
Brule wins a faceoff and the Oilers score. Beauty.
Gilbert (Penner, Brule)
Bookie: Remember, it's not the percentages, it's the BIG kills ;)
Don't do that.
Bookie: Remember, it's not the percentages, it's the BIG kills
Well, some penalties are easier to kill than others.
I am always looking for the happy!
Fun way to end the pre-season.
Good to see Brule go to the net without the puck,
That sucks.
But Shirokov was the second star.
The next Bure, folks.
If it was Matt Cooke, I wouldn't be.
Amen.
Please add Derian Hatcher and Robyn Regehr to that list.
So, I got caught up with some family stuff and missed the first two periods, would someone like to tell me who was good/not so good?
And yes. Consider my smugness gone.
Val Bure? Valerie Bure?
Lubomir should be fine, I suspect. The rust will be resolved through passage of time [i.e. games].
I like the scoring byline of Gilbert P. Gilbert.
Temujin: You mean Shiropov, right?
But Shirokov was the second star.
The next Bure, folks.
How's he been in TC? I'd love to see him play in Manitoba, but don't know where he's stacking up.
Jonathan: Hemsky and Lubo were flying, Jacques is an animal, Penner is turning into something very good and the PK sucks.
Hemsky took 7 shots.
I always think he's at his best when he's shooting the puck.
Lowetide said…
Last fall at a pre-season game a girl flashed the crowd when I was there. God love women.
Wasn't she banned for exposing her live blogging.. or something like that?
I don't care how you spell it, but please don't say he's the next Val Bure.
DG: I like him, even though there is an unfortunate tendency for 3-2 the other way while he is on the ice. Sure does have great hands though.
I feel pretty lazy. Woke up at 9:30, breakfast, 1 hour pre-game NFL. 11-5:30 watch NFL. Go to Superstore. Come home, eat dinner and watch Football Night in America.
It's nice to be done courses for the professional designation – enjoying evenings and weekends the way they were meant to be
Quinn press conference almost ready to start.
I think any team would be happy with a Val Bure type player at 163rd overall. Now from the looks of it the kid is better and has some defensive potential, and sure looks like he could be an offensive force but by no means would I consider Valeri Bure to be a disappointment if he carved out a similar career.
Just curious… what is Robbie Schremp doing with the team if he doesn't play? He's just hanging around&
Just curious… what is Robbie Schremp doing with the team if he doesn't play? He's just hanging around&
Good question. One possible answer: he's a piece of a possibly impending trade, and Tambellini doesn't want to risk losing him for nothing while that trade is on the table.
FPB: The same thing that all the other scratches do; practice and sit in the pressbox.
Isn't there some limitations on waiver pickups, so there is a benefit to sending him down in the same 24hr period as all of the other waiver guys who are being sent down.
Ooooooh, A teaser trailer!
Cuts to be announced at the press conference.
Training camp cuts to be announced shortly according to the teaser on the Oilers site (its like a grindhouse film or something).
I expect just the obvious cuts tonight. DD, Chorney, Brennan, maybe Schremp.
With more tomorrow.
JW: check da email please
Stauffer figures there'll be at most five cuts tonight: Brennan, Schremp, Eberle, Chorney, and Dubnyk.
I am surprised that they are considering that Macintyre is staying. I thought he was gone, but perhaps the GM wants the insurance.
bookie – courtesy for MacIntyre?
Quinn has said over and over again that his guys have to be able to play
MacIntyre is a great story but he can't take a regular shift.
Steve MacIntyre's done, I think.
And I don't think Stone's a huge surprise; he was in the mix with Potulny, Minard and Schremp – and of those four, he probably fits team needs the most.
Leafs just cut Jason Allison and Tie Domi.
Well, Jason Allison anyway.
Hopefully they have a trade for MacIntyre so the Oilers can control where he is going, like the Eastern Conference. Can be for next to nothing, but the trade is better than waiving him.
Six cuts:
Dubnyk
Brennan
Schremp
Peckham
Chorney
Eberle
Well if Brennan gets cut then MacIntyre likely makes the team. Which is wonky because he's an awful skater.
Brennan, Schremp, Eberle.
Peckham, Chorney and another guy reassigned.
Well if Brennan gets cut then MacIntyre likely makes the team. Which is wonky because he's an awful skater.
I think the GM has convinced the coach that they can keep the nuclear deterent for a while until they are certain they do not need him. I am not saying I agree…
Oilers tweeted the cuts before handing them to Stauffer.
Islanders claim sugartits maybe?
LT:
Brennan had an AHL-only contract, so the Oilers would have had to sign him.
I think MacIntyre's out too.
Peckham on IR, not cut.
Keep Stone, Nilsson, Pouliot (IR)
Cut MacIntyre, Reddox
Losing Nilsson on waivers could hurt a lot more down the road than MacIntyre would.
Barbara anne Scott!
I'm going to enjoy these Quninisms
Pou with a Pubus sort of thing?
This is great stuff.
Quninn's got the MSM wrapped around his finger already.
The more I see Grampa Simpson, the more I like him.
LT has a new blogpost up