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  1. GF says:

    I can say "ugh," though.

  2. bookie says:

    Bye Hunter and Traktor…

    We will all 'miss' you.

  3. bookie says:

    If there was big support for it in the room and you are getting a 28 year old guy who has scored 30+ goals in a season in this league for around $1 million, I understand taking the risk. Add to this the off-ice big favour that the Oilers get in a supportive Bill Comrie and I uunderstand it even more.

    I know everyone wants size and grit, but you can easily trade to get a little of that once you know what you have (in the season). We have some key defensive assets that can get us some grit in exchange when we need it.

    2:03 PM, September 10, 2009

  4. St George says:

    Good lord what a total disaster.

    This is Tambellini's idea on how to improve the Oilers? The guy played about as well as Broadziak last year.

    Geeze.

  5. Bar Qu says:

    Hmph

    This is all I can manage for emotion around this. Not the worst move this year, but I don't know if it will really help the team.

    Unless this presages another move ….

  6. Ryan says:

    I like this. I always thought he was a great little player. Signing Comrie is better than signing no one at all.

    Bottom line is, we have one more NHL player on the roster.

  7. MattM says:

    Sigh. I guess he's a real NHL player so that's good. But he doesn't really feel the stylistic real-NHLer hole the Oilers have. But he's cheap, so that's nice. As long as he's grown up a bit, and I'm sure he has, this isn't a terrible idea. Low risk, probably pretty low reward.

    Of course, that's just the face of it. If there are more dominoes to fall here, they'll have to be evaluated as well. I'd hate to see any of the interesting youth out the door for this (and I'm inclined to include Nilsson in that)

  8. St George says:

    Why do we talk about Comrie as a "30+ goal scorer?" That hasn't happened since 2005, and since forwards tend to peak at 27, I think it is fair to predict he is more like a 20-goal scorer at best.

    PS His +/- has been – since 2001.

  9. bookie says:

    Keep in mind folks that the trade deadline does not occur at the begining of the season. So, the other shoe may not fall until Nov/Dec…

  10. Lord Bob says:

    Quick, somebody call Lavrenti Beria, because IT'S LIKE COMMUNISM HERE!

  11. LoanWolf says:

    Apu:
    Oh, you have got to be kidding, sir. First, you think of an idea that has already been done. Then, you give it a press release that nobody could possibly like. Didn't you think this through– (passage of time) –he's been dating Hillary Duff for eighteen months! Every magazine cover had– (passage of time) –least popular moves of all time, sir! What were you thinking?!!

  12. bookie says:

    Nobody said he IS a 30+ goal scorer, but rather that he HAS scored 30+ goals in a season. We are all aware of his recent performance, but the suggestion is that at low cost it may be worth the risk.

    By the 'peak at 27 logic', I think it is safe to assume that at 28, he would not be washed up (though I think the 'peak at 27' logic is pretty weak analysis).

  13. Steve says:

    Quick, somebody call Lavrenti Beria, because IT'S LIKE COMMUNISM HERE!

    Nah. In Soviet Russia, prodigal son signs you.

  14. B.C.B. says:

    Like the term and the price: the Stauffer says it is under $1.5 million for one year.
    Comrie adds skill to our top 6, and I think that is where he will play, most likely a winger. But can he play PK, or can he take some of Horcoff tough minutes? That is what we need, and I think there is another trade in the works to address these issues.

  15. Jonathan Willis says:

    Lowetide:

    I'm very, very disappointed in you. I thought "Expect the Unexpected" would be the title you would use.

  16. uni says:

    Lord Bob, are now or have you ever been a member of the Communist par…um…I mean a supporter of the Edmonton Oilers?

    All said Comrie did score a few big goals for the Oilers in his first go round. I don't have any liking of the guy but he's an NHL player and cheap to boot. The only thing that worries me is that signing him does not fill any of the identified pressing needs and may force the Oilers to send out a good young player prematurely.

  17. Lord Bob says:

    I am slamming my head into my desk to the tune of "L'Internationale".

    I will either need a new head or a new desk.

  18. Ryan says:

    We should give Comrie some credit. He's entering hostile territory and has a lot of guts coming back and facing the media and fans.

    And just imagine if Fleury signs in Calgary. What a story!

  19. quain says:

    FINALLY. A first line center. Thank God.

  20. hunter1909 says:

    Flames fan laughing their fucking heads off today. With good reason.

    Of course, when their seriously superior hockey team thrashes the living daylights out of your team come the regular season, I'm sure even a tool like bookie will still be able to explain why it's been a good move.

  21. HBomb says:

    FINALLY. A first line center. Thank God.

    It's already being stated on fanboards that this opens the door for the Oilers to ditch Horcoff and go Comrie-Gagner-Cogliano down the middle.

    And no, I am not joking.

  22. Lord Bob says:

    The Oilers fan in the office next to mine brought his gun to work and right now the hallway sounds like the end of the 1812 Overture.

  23. Schitzo says:

    I'd just like to point out that if Comrie has a decent season, he may still fetch a 2nd at the trade deadline.

    So if nothing else, hey, free 2nd rounder.

  24. kris says:

    Not sure if this is more appropriate for Hunter faux-threatening to leave Oilers fandom or for Comrie coming back, but it fits for the day.

    The Muppets "The Cat Came Back":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Kj1Fsf9a2U&feature=related

  25. Master Lok says:

    Stauffer on Oilers lunch says that Comrie will most likely play LW as he's been playing that position more in the recent past.

    And while Comrie may be small, I wouldn't say that he isn't Gritty. He's got guts to come back to Edmonton firstly. And I recall that he was willing to muck it up with even a few fights.

  26. Lord Bob says:

    Frankly, Comrie has always been so damned oblivious he probably thinks we all love him again.

  27. oilerdago says:

    //The Oilers fan in the office next to mine brought his gun to work and right now the hallway sounds like the end of the 1812 Overture.//

    Made me die laughing Lord Bob. I needed that way more than the Oilers need Mike Comrie.

    At least I'm not going into this season with any expectations – so now there's no way the team can dissapoint because I expect them to be in the lottery next year.

  28. Schitzo says:

    I'm just tossing it out, but I would really enjoy a Comrie – Gagner – Pisani line.

  29. quain says:

    God, it's like a porno movie title with the nicknames.

  30. RyanB says:

    Sitting in stunned silence at my desk.

    So I guess the thought in the Oiler's front office is that the only thing between this team and the playoffs was another small forward. An interesting analysis of last season for sure.

  31. Lord Bob says:

    Couple rumours I got off the grapevine: Katz is supposedly interested in having Tambellini sign Theo Fleury, saying that "fans will love him" and "this team isn't short enough".

    Also, Marc-Andre Bergeron has been offered a three-year incentive-laden contract which would pay up to $4 million per season if he puts Khabibulin on injured reserve for more than sixty days.

  32. Lord Bob says:

    I know that Comrie and Pisani are both former St. Albert Saints and therefore assured of a first-class booth in hockey Valhalla, but if they ever shake hands the collision of awesome and anti-awesome may destroy the universe. So no to a nu89-89-34 line.

  33. shanetrain says:

    Now, more than ever this off season we should be poised to make a real trade?

  34. Mark-Ryan says:

    Assuming Nilsson is getting demoted or traded, it's smart.

    You add a good 10 goals to the top-six and clear at least 500k against the cap in the process.

    Brownlee says Hemmer and Horcoff both went to bat for him, so you make them happy.

    I have a hard time seeing the downside. Yeah, he ain't a third line centre, but that cavalry wasn't coming either way.

  35. quain says:

    I'm glad we didn't make a play for Tanguay. Another small forward would be ridiculous, especially a proven one who would command $4-5M in a normal market.

    Thank goodness. Comrie brings the grit this team needs.

  36. quain says:

    You add a good 10 goals to the top-six and clear at least 500k against the cap in the process.

    O'Sullivan-Horcoff-Hemsky
    Penner-Gagner-Cogliano

    Which player is Comrie going to slot in for and productively score ten more goals then?

    In fact, if you demote Nilsson without signing Comrie, you add $2M in cap space. Signing Comrie creates a redundancy this team doesn't need.

  37. Lord Bob says:

    So, did this signing happen when Bill Comrie and his crony Katz dangled Kevin Lowe off the roof of Rexall Place by his ankles while Comrie cackled, smoked a cigar the size of a daschund, and said "nobody beats the Brick."?

  38. kris says:

    If the top 9 is something like this:

    LW: Penner, Comrie, Moreau
    C: Horcoff, Gagner, Cogliano
    RW: Hemsky, Pisani, O'Sullivan

    That means our 4th line is:
    Nilson-Pouliot-Stortini

    And Jacques and Brule fight for the extra forward spot with MacUseless, Reddox, Potulny, etc.

    A trade seems wise, but I guess you can't force these things.

  39. Sign Johnny Bower says:

    I can see it now….
    A roomful of furniture to a lucky fan the first Home Game of every month

  40. doritogrande says:

    Beer me.

  41. Lord Bob says:

    I know that, as an Oiler fan, I love burning the furniture of players I don't like, but when that player is a Comrie that's going to take a bloody long time.

  42. flamingpavelbure says:

    I see all you guys, ditching Nilsson, then, why not ditch Moreau? Aging, Overpaid, taking stupid penalties, and we can get a real captain now.

  43. bookie says:

    Of course, when their seriously superior hockey team thrashes the living daylights out of your team come the regular season, I'm sure even a tool like bookie will still be able to explain why it's been a good move.

    Didn't you say you would quit this team if Comrie signed? If you love the Flames, go ahead and jump ship to them, because Sutter has clearly been a genius thus far.

    I will wait until the games have been played. Last year, their 'seriously superior team' won half their games against the Oil…

  44. PunjabiOil says:

    Steve Tambellini`s off-season plan:

    1. Sign another undersized forward
    2. ????????
    3. Profit

    Apparently they're speculating Nilsson has put on 15 pounds this off-season. It would be criminal to move him at this point, value being the lowest, without giving him 20 games under a new coach.

    Penner-Horcoff-Hemsky
    Comrie-Gagner-O'Sullivan
    Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
    Nilsson-Brule-Cogliano
    Ext: Stortini, Jacques

  45. bookie says:

    I know that, as an Oiler fan, I love burning the furniture of players I don't like, but when that player is a Comrie that's going to take a bloody long time.

    Nice!

  46. flamingpavelbure says:

    Punjabi: Does your Roster includes killing Cogs? Cuz i don't see him nowhere.

  47. flamingpavelbure says:

    Oh nevermind actually.

  48. quain says:

    Steve Tambellini`s off-season plan:

    1. Sign another undersized forward
    2. ????????
    3. Profit

    Jesus, PJO, you're being completely unfair:

    1. Sign an aging, injury prone goaltender to a long-term contract.
    2. Sign another undersized forward
    3. ?????????
    4. Profit.

    Get it right.

  49. doritogrande says:

    Penner-Horcoff-Hemsky
    Comrie-Gagner-O'Sullivan
    Moreau-Pouliot-Pisani
    Nilsson-Brule-Cogliano
    Ext: Stortini, Jacques

    Send Brule back to Springfield to cream AAA pitching. Cogliano to 4-line C. Stortini to RW to hit 19 bodies a night to make up for the rest of the forwards. Liam Reddox as 14th.

  50. doritogrande says:

    Continuing the opposite day thread, MacT is coaching Team Canada at the Spengler Cup this year:

    http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=290628

  51. PunjabiOil says:

    Signing Comrie brings back some old memories:

    -Doug Weight received a game misconduct and Comrie scored the OT winner to tie the series against Dallas I believe

    -Smyth-Comrie-Carter line, whom also played together at the World Championships and won a medal.

    -Comrie's sweet toe-drag, backhand five hole goal against Phoenix

    -Comrie's 30 goal season.

    Truthfully, I never got the vibe Comrie was Mr. Edmonton back at the start, and intended to stay for the long run. He held out for maximum bonuses before signing. On NHL beaplayer show, he indicated Edmonton was a ''good place to start my career''

    It's reasonable to assert he didn't like living in fishbowl. Lowe probably did the wrong thing locking him out of camp in 2003, which also forced the Oilers to sign Laraque at 4.2M/3 years to adhere to their new training camp policy.

    It's been over 2 years ago, when he was in Ottawa that he acknowledged he handled the situation poorly. Signing in Edmonton is indicative of strong character. I admire it, and wish him best of luck.

  52. PunjabiOil says:

    Send Brule back to Springfield to cream AAA pitching.

    YOU ARE WRONG!

    I don't believe he's eligible for waivers are per the CBA. See the work of Speeds, MC79, and Willis.

  53. Smytty777 says:

    Can we all agree that all heated debates will now revolve around Comrie, so that poor Robbie Schremp can go back into obscurity and play with his shinebox?

  54. Traktor says:

    "Bye Hunter and Traktor…

    We will all 'miss' you."

    Huh?

    I'm not sure what you're referring to but when it comes to Comrie my only argument was that he'll be a safe bet to outperforms his contract (assuming the 1.2 million cap hit was true).

    If I was going to stop caring about this team like Hunter it would have been in the MacT era. Smooth sailing from here on out.

  55. tenprairiesticks says:

    The real question is…

    What number will Comrie wear?

    98? Naw, too close to Gretzky. (Gretzky used to live in Edmonton, by the way.)

    I think we're finally going to see decimals on jerseys.

    Number 8.9, Mike Comrie!

    Also, I'm glad he's back. I'm a fan of him. LOLowe was the bigger ponce during their catfight. I'm over it.

  56. godot10 says:

    The only good thing I can say about Comrie is that he played a hell of a lot harder against Anaheim in the SC finals than Heatley (or Spezza).

    Bill and his friends better be ante-ing up for the new arena.

    Looks like Daryl wants peace and harmony in the Edmonton business community.

    I remain skeptical about whether Comrie can help. Prodigal son story. Comrie is going to have to work his a$%# off.

  57. Chateau la Puck says:

    LT – first time poster, long time reader and admirer. I have learned a lot from you and many of the great commenters here. It took a story like this to bring me out of the woodwork.

    I haven't lived in Edmonton for many years (Belgium now) and was already gone when the bad blood boiled the first time round. Plus, technology at that time didn't let me watch very many games. But what I remember is Mike Comrie being, at age 21, the Oilers' best and most clutch goal scorer, and probably their team MVP and looking like the nucleus of the franchise going forward. He is 28 years old and there doesn't seem strong reason to think his skills have declined so far. With a 1-year deal he should be a very highly motivated player. I do not think he will be the Saviour but I do think, given a chance (which he should have to earn), this could be a terrific move for the Oil.

    I understand his skill set was not #1 on the wish list, and there are still major gaps in this unbalanced roster. But at the same time, isn't it going to be useful having some pretty skilled guys competing against each other for time on the PP and first 2 lines? Won't this light a fire under guys like Nilsson and O'Sullivan, now that their spots are (even) less secure?

    I like the move.

  58. doritogrande says:

    I don't believe he's eligible for waivers are per the CBA. See the work of Speeds, MC79, and Willis.

    Fine, whatever. Make him the 14th forward and send Reddox to the AHL. Point is he's not good enough yet to be a 4th liner in my eyes. We've got better options.

  59. bookie says:

    Sorry Traktor…memory must have failed me – I sometimes blur you and Hunter together…

  60. Ribs says:

    Capgeek has the contract at $1.125M.

  61. Schitzo says:

    Apparently they're speculating Nilsson has put on 15 pounds this off-season

    PJO: Did you mean the good kind of weight, or the Penner and Schremp kind?

  62. Steve says:

    I haven't lived in Edmonton for many years (Belgium now)

    I'm feeling an overpowering indifference…

  63. Ribs says:

    I meant to comment on that as well. 15lbs is a lot to gain over a few months, especially for a smaller guy like Nilsson. It will be interesting to see if he loses a step or two from it.

  64. Traktor says:

    Bookie: I'm not Kobe Bryant but if I was you'd be Raja Bell.

  65. gogliano says:

    TSN confirms 1.125 million.

    This is a bargain contract. My hope is they drop SMac.

  66. goldenchild says:

    This is Gross

  67. Jonathan Willis says:

    A guess at the lines (in order of difficulty of minutes):

    O'Sullivan – Horcoff – Pisani
    Penner – Gagner – Hemsky
    Cogliano – Comrie – Nilsson
    Moreau – Pouliot – Stortini

    EX: Jacques, Brule

    Am I missing anyone?

    Swap Gagner and Horcoff if you see fit; either way he's still the tough minutes guy.

    It isn't a conventional lineup but I could see it working – particularly since the Pouliot line should be able to handle defensive zone draws.

  68. PunjabiOil says:

    Looking at his numbers, he played 19:11 per game in his 49 point season with the Islanders two years ago.

    Last year he was hampered with injuries, but still didn't do much.

    His last good season was 2005-2006 where he went 30-30-60.

    I don't mind this signing in that it is low risk – but i'm not about to cartwheels just yet. It's very questionable he'll become the player he used to be. Perhaps playing in a pressure market like Edmonton will let him thrive and focus more on hockey.

  69. godot10 says:

    Brainstorming possible lineups…

    Cogliano Comrie Hemsky
    O'Sullivan Gagner Penner
    Nilsson Horcoff Pisani
    Moreau Pouliot Stortini

  70. Jonathan Willis says:

    Cogliano-Comrie-Hemsky.

    Don't take this the wrong way, but *sound of gunshot*.

    Unless they plan to run Horcoff into the ground defensively and run Comrie/Hemsky as soft-minutes guys.

  71. Lord Bob says:

    Well, Hemsky could shred soft competition, and Cogliano and Comrie would be good at consuming oxygen and getting offside a lot on that line.

  72. kris says:

    JW,

    I was just writing the exact same line combos, when I realized that the top 9 you list would be a contender for the softest (and smallest?) top 9 in the league:

    O'Sullivan – Horcoff – Pisani
    Penner – Gagner – Hemsky
    Cogliano – Comrie – Nilsson

    Yikes, that's the smurfs.

    I predict, good idea or not, that they'll try to roll four "balanced" lines, with Moreau in the top nine for "grit." (Quinn said something suggesting this the other day…)

    Maybe we'll see something like this:

    Cogliano-Horcoff-Hemsky
    Penner-Gagner-Pisani
    Moreau-Pouliot-O'Sullivan
    Jacques-Comrie-Nilson
    Stortini (okay, I know he'll be on the 4th and not Jacques, but a guy can dream, right.)

    It's ugly, no matter how you try to work it, though.

  73. Traktor says:

    "Unless they plan to run Horcoff into the ground defensively"

    Quinn would be awfully silly not to.

    If Horcoff comes out on top in terms of +/- then he wasn't used properly.

    Throw Horc to the wolves and let our one-trick ponies do their thing.

    The differential between Horc/(insert kid here) in the offensive zone isn't even in the same ballpark as Horc vs kid in the defensive zone.

    Cut his PP time completely so he can be out in as much defensive situations as possible.

    Fans will be screaming for his head when he turns in a 35 point season attached with a minus but its what the club needs to do if we're going to extract the teams' strengths.

  74. commonfan13 says:

    I think we can stop calling him 28 since he turns 29 tomorrow.

    I feel old now…

  75. Jonathan Willis says:

    Traktor:

    I think it's pretty much settled that Horcoff will face the best opponents. The question is whether he'll do it in a PVP setup with Hemsky or in a checking line setup.

    I like the idea of sticking him with O'Sullivan and Pisani and running them out as a two-way line; I'm less enthused by the idea of sending him out with Moreau and Pisani because I think it is a waste of his rather decent offensive ability.

  76. kris says:

    Traktor and JW,

    I'm big of the Horcoff-Pisani line too. I get it. They're both heavy lifters, smart players, so why not use them as a sort of dynamic, checking line duo, which will go up against the vaunt, and take a lot of own zone draws.

    But I'm not so sure.

    The problem is, who do you play with Hemsky, if not Horcoff? Gagner seems like the best bet, but I really think these guys don't belong together. They're both passers, and somehow I don't feel like they compliment each other.

    Cogliano? That means leaving him at center. Ugh. O'Sullivan? I think he said he's not happy at center and he really isn't at Hemsky's level. Pouliot? No chance.

    Moreover, we know Penner-Horcoff-Hemsky were elite. Why not put them back together and find a different line to take more of the own zone faceoffs. (JW's post seems like he's okay with the Horcoff-Gagner switch.)

  77. Coach pb9617 says:

    Why not put them back together and find a different line to take more of the own zone faceoffs?

    The Malhotra line? Or the Moore line?

  78. kris says:

    Coach,

    I was thinking:

    SMac-Comrie-Stortini

  79. NBOilerFan says:

    Why wouldn't they have simply invited Comrie to TC first. To at least get a good look at him with our players?

    Perhaps they have been getting a good look at him at Rexall place the past few weeks anyway?

    Anyhow… so now what is the next trade? There is another deal right? This is part of some bigger gameplan right? Comrie is filling a void left by another move ot two in the next couple weeks correct?

    I agreed with LT when this story first broke… I have no issue with Comrie being an Oiler, but it only makes sense if they have another deal in place and he will fill a void left by others leaving.

    So what is the next deal, and who is leaving?

  80. flamingpavelbure says:

    Ah god, stop complaning to get Malhotra or Moore, it will NOT happen. Maybe they DONT want to play in Edmonton.

  81. NBOilerFan says:

    Oh… and this means we now have 59 players coming to camp, right?

    Wowza.

  82. Sign Johnny Bower says:

    "Maybe they DONT want to play in Edmonton"

    They'd rather not play at all??

  83. pboy says:

    Just because something is on sale doesn't mean you have to buy it, especially if you have a surplus at home. Comrie's skillset is duplicated up and down this line-up and even though it only cost 1.125 to get him, that money would be better spent on a 3C who can take part of the load off of Horc's shoulders. I hope that Comrie is able to regain his scoring form but this doesn't help in any of the areas this team really needs help.

  84. NBOilerFan says:

    PS – I wonder how Heatley is viewing that Edmonton deal right about now as he packs his bags to return to that Sens dressing room.

    Can't be a comfortable position.

  85. Oilmaniac says:

    I know everyone wants size and grit, but you can easily trade to get a little of that once you know what you have (in the season).

    - at the trade deadline?!?
    Once again, I look forward to the holding pattern.. (although im still amazed the goalie situation didnt take quite that long to be dealt w last year)

  86. godot10 says:

    Gagner isn't a good option for Hemsky, because both guys have to handle the puck to be effective. Comrie and Cogliano are shooters, and don't need the puck as much. Cogliano, Comrie, and Hemsky should never take a defensive zone faceoff.

    O'Sullivan and Penner are the two players the Oilers have who can play down low, so they should play together, and Gagner would be the best option as their centre. And Gagner can be really aggressive in the faceoff circle because both Penner and O'Sullivan are respectable on faceoffs when Gagner gets thrown out.

    Nilsson can check adequately enough for Nilsson, Horcoff and Pisani to be a tough minute checking line.

    And Moreau, Pouliot, and Stortini is a more than adequate 4th line.

  87. Lord Bob says:

    Out of curiousity, how long have we been saying "oh, the Oilers can trade to fill the hole on their third line." Three years?

  88. flamingpavelbure says:

    Hemsky-Horcoff-Nilsson?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbVKJ6tMZiQ

    That goal at 2:45 is just lovely.

  89. Oilmaniac says:

    JW… I liked those lines…

    Moreau on the fourth tho, remains a big question mark – even with the coaching change…

    POS is the shooter, horc a playmaker, pisani a shooter and extra defensive glue.. could work…

    Also like the idea of Nils getting a shot there if shit needs shaking up, and he's goin… How much of a question mark is pisani nowa days? i've heard nothing on that front, and he remains a key component to this team (non-duplicated skill set, excluding back-to-the-ahl reddox)

    anyone think that the kid line gets another shot as the sheltered soft-min line (of course this goes against the no line match prognostications)

  90. Lord Bob says:

    There is one lineup that makes the idea of this trade worthwhile.

    Heatley – Horcoff – Hemsky
    Comrie – Gagner – O'Lanterns
    Moreau – Pouliot – Pisani
    Schremp – Brule – Nilsson

    (or similar, the bottom six are just to fill out the concept, any comments on Belgium will be studiously ignored.)

    As I said a couple weeks ago when this signing was first rumoured, that really ain't bad. Comrie, we know, is a good friend of Heater's, and if this is enough to put the Cogliano-Penner-Smid trade back on, we suddenly end up with a not-halfassed group of forwards.

    If Tambellini really wanted to earn my esteem, he'd find a way to replace Cogliano with Nilsson since it's clear he's Heatley's only bidder, mind. And it still needs, well, any defensive forwards who aren't Ethan Rifles and Fernando Pisani.

    I think that, with the previously-postulated Heatley trade, this team… well, it has a crack at a playoff spot.

  91. Ender says:

    As I said a couple weeks ago when this signing was first rumoured, that really ain't bad. Comrie, we know, is a good friend of Heater's, and if this is enough to put the Cogliano-Penner-Smid trade back on, we suddenly end up with a not-halfassed group of forwards.

    Honestly, at this point Heatley's value needs to be way down. I'd much rather give them Penner + Grebs

  92. oil dude says:

    Comrie @ 1.125 >>>>>>>> Kotalik @ 3+

    Patience paid off with this move, finally we have offensive depth for when the injury bug or slumps begin. The size thing is being overstated here, Comrie can play with an edge when motivated and with that contract he will be.

  93. Lord Bob says:

    Dany Heatley is still Dany Heatley, Ender. It's no good pretending we're going to be able to get him at a serious knock-down price, and it's not like he's holding out on the Senators. It may well be that both he and the organization have kissed and forgot.

    My ideal trade is Bobby Nilsson, Penner, and Staios, but that's a pipe dream and I know it. Nilsson, Penner, Staios, and Smid would also be acceptable, but somehow swapping Cogliano and Nilsson would be a serious coup.

    (Note: I actually really like Bobby Nilsson, even if I'm the last man alive who does. But I'm happier with Cogliano's somewhat tougher, more complete game in this cotton-candy lineup.)

  94. Lord Bob says:

    Comrie @ 1.125 >>>>>>>> Kotalik @ 3+

    Oh, jesus, is that ever true, but Comrie @ 1.125 < Tanguay @ 2.5

  95. Traktor says:

    "Why not put them back together and find a different line to take more of the own zone faceoffs"

    The difference between Horcoff and Gagner is marginal in the offensive zone. The difference between Horcoff and Gagner is gigantic in the defensive zone.

    We need to play to our strengths and sending out JF-Pouliot-Stortini just magnifies our weakness.

    We also know that Quinn isn't going to mess around micromanaging the game so that means if Hemsky is playing with Horcoff then Hemsky is going to see a whack of own-zone draws – why would anyone want to start their best offensive player who is deficient in his own zone for a large quantity of defensive draws?

  96. Smytty777 says:

    LB: I think the Heatley thing is dead, but if it can be resurrected I don't see how it can happen without Cogs involved, he's the prized piece.

    Now if Smid stayed and Staios got shipped I would be all for that. It would work cap-wise for both teams.

  97. Lord Bob says:

    I think the Heatley thing is the only way this Comrie signing makes sense.

    So yeah, it probably is dead and Tambs is just high on model airplane glue or something. But let me hope.

  98. loudog says:

    Buccigross (and also Mirtle) are reporting via twitter that "Heatley will probably be a Shark either tonight or tomorrow".

    http://twitter.com/Buccigross

    Even if its not yet confirmed, I do feel somewhat relieved.

    Now, can we get on with the trade that would explain why we signed Comrie?

  99. loudog says:

    oops. so much for that link

  100. flamingpavelbure says:

    Yes, that would be logical, if not, the Erhoff trade wouldn't make much sense, even if Patrick White is a 1st rounder, he is a well known blow

  101. Dennis says:

    I'm not saying Comrie can't play but I am saying he can't help Horc handle the tough min and that's what we need.

    Now, if the signing of Comrie on the cheap allows us to deal off Nilsson for a secondary tough min pivot, then awesome.

    But I doubt that's gonna be the case.

  102. Rick says:

    I love it. We needed a centre and a scorer and got one cheap. Who cares if he's not a checker. If we get better defensive play from our Ds in Renney's system, then our need for a big checker is lessened.

  103. Doogie2K says:

    Did you mean the good kind of weight, or the Penner and Schremp kind?

    The good kind, from what I understand.

  104. Doogie2K says:

    Oh, and Bob McKenzie calls bullshit on the latest Heatley trade rumours.

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