Oilers at Islanders, G15, 09-10

These two organizations are tied together in so many ways. Both teams were built through procurement of young players, both teams have had incredible highs and lows, both teams are at a lower point in franchise history.

The Oilers and Islanders have some nice young players but other teams are as young and look better moving forward. The balance of power now is in towns like Pittsburgh and Chicago. A betting man would suggest a trip to the SCF is a distant bell for both teams.

It’s a good thing we’re fans.

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  1. Smytty777 says:

    I gave the Oilers the benefit of the doubt the last couple of nights, but this is getting embarrasing.

  2. spOILer says:

    I don't have a PVR, but to my memory it was a lost bouncing puck that he was forced to try and keep in the zone on his backhand with no position. Not much chnce to win, without luck, and then he was the 3rd man on the play from the point of the puck crossing their blue line on. Kept up with the play. I see little more he could have done really.

  3. geowal says:

    geowal: Let's be fair. The Yankees made it all this way with salaries under 1 billion. Credit where due.

    Touche. Just look how much better they are than the NY Ranger team that overspent.

  4. Lowetide says:

    Blake Comeau to Rob Schremp in the pressbox: "You couldn't make THIS team?"

  5. Bruce says:

    Phillips: "I tell you what, I'm starting to lose faith in the officials in the National Hockey League."

    STARTING TO???? Hahahahahahahaha. You been saying shit like that since '73.

    Rod, you're too much. Don't ever retire.

  6. kris says:

    Story of the game:

    Hemsky+Penner: 10 shots.

    Rest of Oilers combined: 10 shots.

  7. kinger says:

    I have the Islanders feed and all they are talking about is how great the team has played after the first 10 minutes. Perhaps their great play has something to do with the two seeing eye goals scored by a guy not exactly known for his offensive abilities. Kind of reminds me of a few posters around these parts after our quick start.

  8. jon k says:

    Team looks the same as it did the second half of the Detroit game: They can't make a pass to save their lives.

    Guys are panicking so badly in the D zone that when they do recover the puck their first instinct is to shovel it up the boards or carry it out themselves.

    Either way, it's pretty easy to stymie a team who won't make easy passes or give puck support, whether you're Detroit or the lowly Islanders.

  9. danny says:

    I guess Dennis lost some cash tonight to his bookie.

  10. danny says:

    O'Sullilvan actually just wired a shot from behind the net.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Fucking MacTavish.

  12. Bruce says:

    Take the fine, Pat, take the fine. These guys are screwing us.

  13. Bruce says:

    Phillips: "Well at least these boneheads still know what an icing call is."

  14. kinger says:

    Is it bad that I want Witt to get his hattrick?

  15. spOILer says:

    Why not shoot at the empty net. They're killing us on FOs anyway.

  16. RiversQ says:

    Bruce: Wait, Quinn can get fined for saying his front office blows?

  17. kris says:

    Refs are probably as bored as we are with the game.

  18. Bruce says:

    Any bets we get our first powerplay now?

    I'm going to have to go over to HBomb's site to express my true feelings here. These guys are on the take.

  19. Lowetide says:

    How many actual NHL defensemen do the Islanders have? Seriously?

  20. Ribs says:

    Hah… I wonder what Gagner does to pee off so many guys. Is there a "throw him off his game" mentality when it comes to him?

  21. kris says:

    LT,

    Please tell me that trade is comin soon.

  22. Lowetide says:

    This team needs a trade. Please, for the love of God almighty, Buddah, Jack the ripper or whomever you pray to, make a freaking trade!!!

    We're craptastic!!!

  23. goldenchild says:

    83 deserved better tonight, the rest got what they deserved.

    So as Quinns scrums and post games get more and more negative about the teams play how much of it is directed to mgmt vs the players? Is 80/20 too much?

    If trade watch gets to day 100 I wouldnt be surprised to see Quinn go all Tom Cable on Tambellini

  24. quain says:

    LT echoes my sentiment. Fucking MacTavish. I can't wait until we have a coach who has a system with clean breakouts and crisp passes. This Chinese fire drill bullshit is getting tiring.

    And really? We're going to blame the refs and act like JFJ didn't deserve an instigator? What a joke.

  25. kris says:

    Reffing is not the story of this game, IMO.

  26. geowal says:

    Take the fine, Pat, take the fine.

    Too late now, but: Take the suspension, any non-smurf player, take the suspension.

  27. Ribs says:

    Smid forced to munch minutes again, Horcoff losing the faceoff war, no breakout success to speak of, and no one stepping up to score some goals, equals a pretty ugly loss.

  28. kris says:

    Bad calls happen. These were kinda weird, but we'll get some bad calls going our way too. It all evens out.

  29. danny says:

    Ethan is completely stuffed with a flu there.

  30. FlamingPavelBure says:

    Is this the sign i'm becoming a true Oilers fan that this streak makes me wanna puke?

  31. kinger says:

    Even without the Witt goals we still can't outscore the goddamn Islanders.

    The Islanders!!!!!

  32. Traktor says:

    "Fucking MacTavish."

    Not much you can do without a #1 C.

    5 points in 15 games. -5

    Actual NHL players are nice but a couple first liners wouldn't hurt either.

  33. Smytty777 says:

    Kris: agreed the Oilers inability to handle the forecheck, resulting painful turnovers was the story of the game, not the reffing. The reffering wasn't good though.

  34. spOILer says:

    Howard only one away now. A Phillie win tonight only helps him shatter the record further.

  35. kris says:

    Traktor,

    Sigh.

    The Rangers have Drury who's listed as their #1C at 2-3-5 -3 and they're doing quite well.

    Horcoff and Gagner are a decent 1-2 punch and the top line has looked good with either.

    The problem by everyone's eyes and by the numbers is that the rest of the team is getting killed, especially in their own zone.

    So you trade a couple of shakier -perhaps talented guys- to bring in some steadier players who can clear their zone, maybe forecheck a bit too: in general get the puck for the skilled guys.

  36. RiversQ says:

    I have a hard time complaining about the first line when the other lines go 2-3 periods before recording a single positive shift. That leaves the first line to win the puck, take it all the way up the ice and generate chances on every shift. It'd be nice to have them start some shifts with the puck already in the right end.

  37. kinger says:

    Traktor,

    Where was that argument when MacT was still around? I seem to remember you blaming him for the vast majority of the team's problems.

  38. Dennis says:

    Danny: I got the same odds on the Oil scoring the first goal as I did on their win so I'm even up right now.

    And I also took the Kings in Phx and I have the Rockets to cover +8 at Utah.

    No bookie, though. I have a legit online account:)

    And here's the way I saw tonight's game:

    http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=3238

  39. kinger says:

    Adding to the above post:

    The least you could do is be consistent when presenting your shitty arguments.

  40. HBomb says:

    Traktor:

    Horcoff, like Hemsky, has a track record of production since the lockout that firmly establishes him as a first liner, slow start notwithstanding.

    Couple that with Penner seemingly emerging, and like last year, the "first line" isn't the problem with the hockey club.

    There's about 10 forwards not producing right now. Yet you choose to go after one of the few guys that may deserve the benefit of the doubt. Surprise, surprise.

  41. logical thinking says:

    Don't make a trade, keep this team. Oilers could use a top 5 draft pick.

  42. RiversQ says:

    I love how Cogliano is still shooting 20% on the year. Ten shots in 15 games?!?! Are you freaking kidding me? Add that to his horrible own zone coverage and you're guaranteed to sink his line.

  43. kris says:

    I mean suppose you replaced Horcoff with, say, Sedin, and your top line of Penner-Sedin-Hemsky scored a goal a game or more.

    If the rest of the team is as is, and they don't dramatically improve this kind of play, they very likely miss the playoffs.

  44. Lowetide says:

    I'd like to know what is happening in the management meetings.

    Quinn: "How bad did it get with MacTavish?"

    Tambellini: "He'd stopped eating."

    Quinn: "What about a trade?"

    Tambellini: "Pat, you know our policy: no outgoing calls."

    Quinn: "Well who can I have, then?"

    Tambellini: "Liam Reddox. But you'll have to sacrifice a goat."

  45. HBomb says:

    kris has it right – depth is the problem.

    Sinking 7 million into Patrick Marleau next summer to center Hemsky and Penner doesn't turn this team into a playoff team.

    However big C-words they may be, you spend said 7 million on Steve Ott and Ryan Kesler as UFA's, this team improves dramatically.

    Finding the moneu to do this is the tough part.

  46. RiversQ says:

    Tambellini: "Liam Reddox. But you'll have to sacrifice a goat."

    Moreau it is then.

  47. Dennis says:

    So, on to the game. Poor old Trak beat the MacTavish drum so much that he's gotta eat a pile of crow for the team playing the same under Quinn that they did under MacT.

    As I said earlier, I'm not sure if it's coaching or players who won't listen but we can't break our own zone and we can't clear it either so the two of those combined isn't a recipe for anything but scoring chances allowed.

    Tonight might also present another problem as I don't believe 10 played in the last 10 min so he's probably concussed or has some kind of a neck strain.

    In any case, we don't have balanced scoring, we've got a lot of passengers and we're getting outworked and outsmarted.

    How much is the flu and how much is it the team simply regressing past the mean on it's way back to the mean;)

    I really don't know what to make of right now other than to say I'm glad I won't waste either of the next two nights watching them play.

  48. kris says:

    To be fair Kinger, Traktor has always gone after Horcoff AND MacT.

    The latter is gone and if you were to upgrade Horc., I don't think it would change our fortunes much. Certainly not if the rest of the team is as bad as they looked tonight.

    Let's hope that it really is darkest before the dawn.

  49. Woodguy says:

    Ken Lowe was working on 10'shoulder after Sutton hit him.

    10 didn't return to the ice.

    Khabby is near sighted.

    83, A sick 27, 89 and 71 showed up. No one else did.

    I keep saying to split up 83 and 27 so the other team can't key on one line, but there is no one else to play them with.

    This team needs an enema.

  50. Traktor says:

    Kinger:

    Which internet fitness center do you train at?

  51. HBomb says:

    Dennis: supposedly Horcoff is one of the guys currently battling the flu.

    (Insert some stupid "hand flu" comment from the peanut gallery here).

  52. Bruce says:

    And really? We're going to blame the refs and act like JFJ didn't deserve an instigator? What a joke.

    Quain/Rivers: Tell me what happened on that instigator play, please. I "saw" Sutton land the first blow, looked like a crosscheck or punch to the face as JFJ closed in. But as mentioned (twice) I have a real shitty feed so by all means fill me in the same way Sutton did JFJ. I could only see slow-twitch muscle movements and missed a lot of detail. Were Jacques' gloves already off when Sutton smashed him?

    You guys are totally dreaming if you think the referees are costing the Oilers tonight.

    Oilers lost because they were the second best team. And that is far more frustrating than anything else, even bad reffing which will indeed even out eventually. That said, Oilers could have used a powerplay goal tonight, but to do that they would have needed an actual powerplay. They never got even one. Likely wouldn't have scored if they had, but it would have been nice to find out. That is all.

    Traktor: I wish you would back off Horcoff tonight. He played sick, and then got hurt. What more do you want the guy to give for his team in one day?

  53. godot10 says:

    MacT didn't notice that Hejda was on his roster. MacT chose Nilsson over Glencross. MacT was destroying Penner and Smid. Moreau and Staios were the guys MacT wanted to lead his team.

    MacT did a lot of good things, but he was making an awful lot of bad personnel evaluations after the Cup run.

  54. Hockey Noob says:

    Hey everyone, dang not a fun game to watch especially since I bought the PPV lol.

    The early season shooting % and shot differential as noted by man, have been a harbinger of things to come. Of course the injuries/illness have factored into things too.

    The Oilers seem unable to find clear shooting lanes. In their zone, opposing teams have no difficulties finding them.

    To me, it looks like there's some serious problems with the Oilers system or they're just doing a horrible job in execution.

  55. RiversQ says:

    MacT did a lot of good things, but he was making an awful lot of bad personnel evaluations after the Cup run.

    What kind of fool thinks MacT made all these personnel decisions himself?

    I mean seriously, is this the most ridiculous strawman ever floated out here?

  56. pboy says:

    But Bruce, he's getting paid 7 million a year. 7 million!!!!

  57. HBomb says:

    Ok, at least the New Orleans Saints are making up for the lack of offense in the Oiler game tonight.

    Brees is just locked in this season. Wow.

  58. RiversQ says:

    MacT chose Nilsson over Glencross.

    I suppose I could kick the shit out of ezch one of those, but this one I find particularly funny.

    What makes you think MacT made the call on what to offer Glencross? Do you really think MacT showed Nilsson a tonne of preferential treatment last year? If so, you may be the only one.

  59. kinger says:

    Dennis said…

    As I said earlier, I'm not sure if it's coaching or players who won't listen but we can't break our own zone and we can't clear it either so the two of those combined isn't a recipe for anything but scoring chances allowed.

    I don't think it's a lack of coaching or the players not listening. It seems to me that the problem is the players just aren't very good at winning puck battles. Early in the season Ryan Stone really caught my eye for a couple reasons: he was very physical all over the ice, he would routinely get the puck out of the zone when it came to his wing and he just simply won battles. We have a team with too many guys that just can't do what Ryan Stone can do, no matter how many times Quinn or MacT tell them how to do it.

    Tonight might also present another problem as I don't believe 10 played in the last 10 min so he's probably concussed or has some kind of a neck strain.
    Tonight might also present another problem as I don't believe 10 played in the last 10 min so he's probably concussed or has some kind of a neck strain.

    He does have the flu and was a game time decision. I think his absence has more to do with that than anything else.

  60. pboy says:

    If you watch the Zapruder film enough times, you can just make out Horcoff on the grassy knoll….

  61. kinger says:

    Traktor said…

    Which internet fitness center do you train at?

    E-bully on Whyte.

    Tell me Traktor, when you go to bed at night are you more scared of my e-pecks or my e-glutes?

  62. spOILer says:

    Woodguy said…
    Ken Lowe was working on 10'shoulder after Sutton hit him.

    10 didn't return to the ice.

  63. Ribs says:

    Hey everyone, dang not a fun game to watch especially since I bought the PPV lol.

    Dont worry! You can buy 4 more PPV's this month! They're bound to win one of them!

  64. spOILer says:

    pboy,

    That would make MacT Oswald, would it not?

  65. Bruce says:

    Kinger: I think it's the e-motes that would scare me off.

  66. pboy says:

    Horcoff is rumored to be behind the cover-up of Area 51….

  67. godot10 says:

    //Early in the season Ryan Stone really caught my eye for a couple reasons: he was very physical all over the ice, he would routinely get the puck out of the zone when it came to his wing and he just simply won battles. We have a team with too many guys that just can't do what Ryan Stone can do, no matter how many times Quinn or MacT tell them how to do it.//

    I thought this was worth repeating.

  68. spOILer says:

    According to NHL PbP sheet, Horc took one shift after that hit by Sutton, for a Dzone FO, but it was only 20 secs.

  69. pboy says:

    Spoiler:That would make MacT Oswald, would it not?

    MacT would be Oswald and Kevin Lowe would be Carlos Marcello.

  70. kris says:

    Horcoff was actually born in Kenya.

  71. kris says:

    Show your birth certificate Horcoff! We want the long-form one, too.

  72. spOILer says:

    Tamby as Jack Ruby then for pulling the trigger on the fall guy.

  73. Asiaoil says:

    You don't have to be a genius to see that going into a season without enough effective depth is going to kill you sooner or later (usually sooner). However – this is so frak'in preventable and no one can convince me it was impossible to get a few cheap effective bottom 6 veteran forwards with size, a cheap defense-first #5/6 dman, ditch a contract or two, or get a guy who can actually win a faceoff or two. Just a few smart little moves that put 5 or 6 extra wins on the chart at the end of the year and allow you to make the playoffs.

    Really I've run out of realistic explanations for neglecting the holes on this roster for so long. The only answer I can come up with is that this mgmt squad is unbelievably, fantastically stupid. What the hell else could it be??????

  74. Bruce says:

    … and Traktor as Kevin Costner's character, the New Orleans district attorney/conspiracy theorist.

  75. Lowetide says:

    Remember the old Jim Dowd 4th line? Yes, please.

  76. Gerta Rauss says:

    …back and to the left,back and to the left

    Well said asiaoil…i've fucking had it with this organization.

  77. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Didn't watch the game thank jesus, but when's the last time a game was 6-0 for PPs?

    Horc was obviously close to death if he only played 14:18.

    I don't recall who said it last thread, but this is going to get worse before it gets better.

    The holes on this team were obvious before the season, now they've been exposed 15 times over. Tambo, you're move.

    There's enough other struggling teams out there. Why dont the Oilers swap their own junk for their junk and see what happens. They can't get much worse.

  78. Bruce says:

    Some interesting Corsi #s tonight:

    Penner +17
    Hemsky +15
    Horcoff +13

    Stortini +2
    Moreau -2

    Gagner -7
    JFJ -8
    Cogliano -8
    Pisani -9
    POS -10
    Nilsson -12
    Brule -14

    Visnovsky +5
    Strudwick +2
    Gilbert 0
    Smid -2

    Chorney -10
    Grebeshkov -12

    On the Islanders side, looking just at the D, Martinek was -23 (! on a +8 team) and Sutton was -14. Gee, I wonder who they were hard matched against. Meanwhile Bruno Gervais was +15 and Jack Hillen, whoever he is, +14. Streit and Witt were both +12. Can you say "soft opp"?

  79. logical thinking says:

    Mr.Tambellini is a conservative GM. Don't expect a trade this season. Unless Mr.Tabellini feels very comfortable with making a move. I for one respect that.

  80. Dennis says:

    Rapid fire, here we go!:)

    - speaking of the Zapruder film, this week's Mad Men ep covered the Kennedy asassination and, as usual, they knocked it out of the park. I loved the scene where Don Draper had to go into his office to find liquor because all the bars were closed.

    - Rick Sutcliffe has me going mad all playoffs and tonight he was talking about how he'd love to see Brett Gardner playing every day because of his "speed going down the line" and of course there was that old chestnut about speed never slumping.

    I wish Sutcliffe would've had to watch Otis Nixon in his Expos days;)

    - Heading back to 10's salary for a second, would anyone like to see a transcript of a somewhat prolonged email banter I had with the esteemed Terry Jones this past Friday?

    - As pointed out by Kinger, the Oilers had five scoring chances tonight when 83 wasn't on the ice.

    Five.

  81. quain says:

    Dennis: So… you're saying we should trade Hemsky? I agree, he doesn't want it enough.

    Also: Anything that involves someone smart hassling Terry Jones is something I want to see.

  82. Gerta Rauss says:

    Quinn post game

    "thumble dee and thumble dumb"

    Quinn's post game is the only entertaining thing coming out of this organization right now.

  83. Bruce says:

    Dennis: I vote yea for the Jones correspondence. Out with it.

  84. kanadienkyle says:

    What is the conversion rate of November points versus March points?

  85. Cam says:

    Quinn on Horcoff: Upper body hurting, will be re-evaluated.

    Fall for Hall?

  86. Dennis says:

    I'll just make a couple of comments before I make a final post with the conversation with Jones.

    Quinn's sighing and seeming resignation to mistakes being repeated over and over again remind me of my father talking to me as a teenager when I'd come home drunk;)

    We don't know what the flu's done to us or is still doing to us but we've got one game in the next five days so that's a lot of practice time to right the ship; plus, 34 will get fitter and fitter and 24 should be back any game now.

    If we don't see some systemic improvement come this Sunday at Col, it might be time to drop the excuses and face an ugly early season reality: we're just not that good outside of three our four forwards and three or four D.

  87. Dennis says:

    Ok, here's the exchange with Jones and it was spurred by Jones mentioning 10's 2010 salary instead of mentioning his cap hit.

    The last reply by Jones illuminates the idea of guys peddling agendas with no heft given to actual facts.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Dennis King To: Terry Jones
    Sent: Fri Oct 30 12:38:25 2009
    Subject: Shawn Horcoff's cap hit is 5.5 million and it's not 7 million.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Terry Jones
    Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:56 PM
    Subject: Shawn Horcoff's cap hit is 5.5 million..

    His cap hit is his cap hit. He's making seven million us this season

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Dennis King
    To: Terry Jones
    Sent: Fri Oct 30 14:34:05 2009
    Subject: So..

    have you made a promise to every year list everyone's true salary instead of their cap hit?

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Terry Jones

    Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:05 PM
    Subject: Re: So..

    I only write about cap hit if I'm writing about cap room

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Dennis King
    To: Terry Jones
    Sent: Fri Oct 30 14:41:37 2009
    Subject: I just think it's disingenious…

    to write about a year of salary unless you're writing about that year's payroll. Payroll and budget are two different things and though Horcoff is making 7 mill this season, his cap hit's only 5.5.

    To talk about salary is to refer to the bigger picture of what each team's actually paying out in actual dolllars and no one speaks of that, they just speak of the cap; which is an averaged total.

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Terry Jones
    Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:14 PM
    Subject: Re: I just think it's disingenious…

    This year everybody is talking about horc making seven mil

    —– Original Message —–
    From: Dennis King
    To: Terry Jones
    Sent: Fri Oct 30 14:49:46 2009
    Subject: Yes but

    you have the chance to be the voice of reason and explain that cap hit's the most pertinant number.

    And the last reply from Terry Jones is this:

    I decline

  88. Woodguy says:

    Dennis: I vote yea for the Jones correspondence. Out with it.

    Please to be seeing this..

  89. Steve says:

    Craig MacTavish

    1. He did a lot of good things as coach.
    2. He inexplicably refused to play Hejda, which was just dumb.
    3. By the end, he seemed to be judging players solely on the basis of how hard they appeared to be working, without any regard for skill.
    4. He was a significant factor in Dustin Penner's previous disappointing performance as an Oiler; Penner too obviously deserves much of the blame, but there's considerable evidence that Penner was our best LW (at almost any role, actually), and MacTavish would still fourth line and pressbox him.
    5. At some point between 2006 and 2009, he ceased to be a good coach for the Oilers, and firing him was the right move.

    Shawn Horcoff:

    1. Has a record of being an acceptable first line centre. There's empirical evidence that a team whose first line he centres can make game seven of the SCF.
    2. His offense last year suffered from his being our only tough minute centre.
    3. Based on the information available at the time he signed a contract, that was fair value. Not a bargain, but fair value.
    4. This year, he has not been anything near a $5.5 million player.
    5. #4 is made all the more conspicuous by how much of the offensive and defensive load he is expected to shoulder, and by the lack of any kind of supporting cast at centre.

    Just in case any of you were wondering what you should think.

  90. Bruce says:

    Nice job, Dennis, even if you spelled "disingenuous" wrong. Jones puts the "diss" in "ingenious", that's for sure. What an arsehole.

    I think he may just have added "I decline" to the Oilogosphere lexicon though. What an ingenious position.

  91. Lowetide says:

    Dennis: lol. I decline. Digress, decline, next it'll be "reject all signals" or "the sun is over the yard arm."

    If you missed the 60's this is what it was like: people speaking in sayings and nodding their heads in agreement.

    -Signed someone from the "seen and not heard" generation. :-)

    Steve: You kill me. :-)

  92. Bruce says:

    One good thing from the post-game interviews: at least Ethan didn't blame the powerplay.

  93. quain says:

    Dennis: The correct response was, at some point in that conversation, YOU ARE WRONG!

    Also: Is there anything more dangerous than extremely discounted Halloween candy? I'm going to die of taffy overdose. They're going to find me dead on the couch, all of my orifices sealed shut with pink taffy. When you see the news report tell the authorities my wife set me up.

  94. Kristopher Milligan says:

    Terry Jones makes baby Jesus cry…

    Jesus:
    "Terry, take my hand and receive forgiveness for your sins of lying and blasphemy."

    Terry Jones:
    "I decline."

    Jesus:
    -Facepalm-

  95. Traktor says:

    "One good thing from the post-game interviews: at least Ethan didn't blame the powerplay."

    10/10

  96. Kristopher Milligan says:

    "10/10"

    +1

  97. knighttown says:

    Hey! Patrick O'Sullivan played tonight. Who knew?

  98. Jonathan Willis says:

    O'Sullivan had a huge hit on Hillen about halfway through the game.

    Other than that, he was busy on the new checking line with Pisani and Brule.

  99. Jonathan Willis says:

    Bruce:

    I could be wrong, but I believe Brule (along with Pisani and O'Sullivan) were on defensive zone faceoff duty.

  100. Bruce says:

    Thanks JW. Were they taking the D-Zone faceoffs specifically, or were they just following the Kids all night? Those fellas sure weren't getting much going.

    You;re right though, Corsi without context can be dangerous. I'm too lazy to look through the play-by-play though, hardly feel inspired to do much of anything after another dismal, abysmal performance. That's 6 stinker third periods in a row.

  101. dawgbone says:

    Well, it could be worse, we could be paying an actual cap hit of $7+ mil for Eric Staal right now.

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