Convoy!

Each season, the Edmonton Oilers send a fresh group of young people into pro hockey. Some are good enough to make the NHL right away, others start in the AHL and still others begin their careers in the ECHL. How are the kids doing so far?

Oilers pro and amateur scouts need to supply pro hockey with a Convoy of prospects every year. Although many will not reach NHL regular status, each of them will get enough at-bats in pro hockey to prove or disprove their worth at the highest levels of hockey. Here are the NHL and AHL kids, with comments from OKC coach Todd Nelson sprinkled in.

  1. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins: Teenage powerplay God is a strong Calder candidate and the only thing that has tripped him up is a blueline and 5×5 play in the NHL. A splendid season.
  2. Anton Lander: He has played pro hockey in Sweden, but his NA debut is in the NHL. Although he is offensively challenged, you can see why the coaching staff likes him. Has some gumption and Oilers clearly believe he’ll be a big part of the future.
  3. Lennart Petrell: Older rookie stayed with the big club for the first half before being relegated. Quality PK man but his 5×5 difficulties eventually got him sent away.
  4. Hunter Tremblay: Leads Edmonton’s AHL newcomers in points (39, 6-9-15) and his coach likes him a lot. Three shorthanded goals. Tremblay is developing good pro habits according to coach Todd Nelson.
  5. Tanner House: Solid offense (37, 4-7-11). Coach Nelson feels he has three centermen (O’Marra, VandeVelde and House) who can play against anyone in the AHL. Dependable, good 2-way guy and important on the PK. Nelson says the big item for House is to deliver quality consistently.
  6. Tyler Pitlick: Getting playing time at center and learning how to use his physical ability to impact the game. 33, 4-5-9 but with 2PP goals and a lot of encouraging verbal reporting pertaining to hard work and effort. Coach Nelson says he is playing very well away from the puck and in his own end.
  7. Curtis Hamilton: 31, 3-5-8 and has shown flashes in his first pro season but is well off expectations based on last season’s WHL stats. Coach Nelson suggests “it’s going to take time” and feels Hamilton can help on PK and PP and he is getting time in both disciplines. He also said that at the beginning of the year Hamilton wasn’t winning many puck battles but that he has improved a lot in that area during the season.
  8. Antti Tyrvainein: 20, 2-5-7 he has had some injury issues but has also shown some ability in a few areas. I’m not sure the Oilers know what they have, but if he can stay healthy in the second half we may have a better view.
  9. Ryan Lowery: College defender has been a very good addition. Oilers did a few things this past fall in an effort to improve their quality and quantity on D and Lowery (26, 1-6-7) has worked out well so far. Lowery has been bitten by the injury bug.
  10. Kirill Tulupov: Big Russian best known for knocking Ben Eager senseless in the pre-season, he’s big and tough and one imagines the Oilers will find room to sign him over the summer. Has had an injury issue this season.
  11. Cameron Abney: Big enforcer is watching his role dry up in the NHL but should find a regular home in the AHL next season. 6, 0-0-0 in the AHL.

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37 Responses to "Convoy!"

  1. PDO says:

    Pitlick looks a lot like the magic beans Lowe kept dealing our good players for…

    Not the greatest group after RNH, but Lander has some real nice tools.

  2. Lowetide says:

    PDO: I don’t know, seems to me (without knowing TOI) he might be a player based on reports.

  3. PDO says:

    LT:

    He might be. Ditto Hamilton.

    But there’s only so many spots on a roster available.

    All I know is Pitlick has been called a scorer since before we drafted him but he never scores all that much.

  4. DSF says:

    @LT.

    Just wondering how long you’ve been saving the Camp Climax photo?

  5. Lowetide says:

    Ah, gotcha. Agreed, he isn’t going to be the offensive player that Eberle is already, but I think he might be able to help offensively. Pitlick didn’t have a lot of PP time in WHL, lots of EV goals in his Medicine Hat season. Two-sided coin, why wasn’t he on the PP if he’s so good, but if they drafted a 15-goal scorer who can play at #31 I’d consider that a win.

  6. Lowetide says:

    DSF: Longer than a day. I was trying to find a place for it but then just decided to go ahead and post it.

  7. PDO says:

    LT,

    Probably.

    Is there more value in dealing him while he’s still considering a “scorer” in the eyes of scouts, or are you better off developing those types of players?

    I’d rather pair him up with some other middling prospects for a real D opposed to sending away someone like Gagner straight up for one.

    Is that deal available? Who knows.

    History suggests if you’re a GM and you start laying a bunch of lotto tickets down, someone will give you something real for them though.

    The 2nd rounder, Pitlick and Peckham might get you something worthwhile at the draft.

  8. Half Full says:

    Hey LT, what are your thoughts on our prospect pool compared to other teams? I know, broad question, but for the past few years, much praise has been heaped on MBS for his draft record. I know many we discuss are not top ten talents outside of Hall, RNH and the next greatest gift in Ebs.

    I am not doubting MBS, just really starting to wonder if we are going to have the quality supporting cast coming through the ranks to really add the final touches of a perennial contender.

  9. Lowetide says:

    PDO: Well if he turns into a solid role player that’s not such a bad result. I don’t think we can call him a failed pick or anything. The Oilers have guys like Hartikainen and Omark they can give at-bats too for the next year and a half, no hurry on Pitlick/Hamilton imo.

    HF: Well the 2009-11 picks are mostly still developing below the NHL. I don’t think Pitlick is going to be helping win games in the NHL for years but that isn’t terribly unusual for a 31st overall.

  10. DSF says:

    @LT

    There are scads of players selected 31st overall or worse who are helping win games in the NHL.

    I know you like to put Stu on a pedestal but, so far, his performance is pretty sketchy.

  11. Lowetide says:

    DSF: Pitlick was drafted in 2010. Why don’t we give him a little time. As for Stu on a pedestal, I do think he’s had a helluva run but we know prospects don’t develop in a straight line.

    Was everyone expecting Pitlick to be an NHL player 18 months after he was drafted?

  12. Schitzo says:

    DSF:
    @LT

    There are scads of players selected 31st overall or worse who are helping win games in the NHL.

    No shit. There’s also 180 players a year drafted 31st overall or worse. I would hope that some of them are helping to win games in the NHL, otherwise we might as well call off the draft after the first round.

  13. commonfan14 says:

    DSF:
    @LT

    I know you like to put Stu on a pedestal but, so far, his performance is pretty sketchy.

    Considering the team’s needs, looking back at the first round of the 2009 draft in particular is getting more depressing every day.

    Ellis, Kulikov and Rundblad were all available.

  14. DSF says:

    McGregor has been the Oilers head scout since 2007.

    The only non first round pick to have any impact in the NHL since then is Anton Lander and he is a marginal NHL player.

    Whiffing on the Paajarvi pick is a dark stain on his record.

  15. DSF says:

    Schitzo,

    Thing is…none of them are Oilers.

  16. Schitzo says:

    DSF:
    McGregor has been the Oilers head scout since 2007.

    The only non first round pick to have any impact in the NHL since then is Anton Lander and he is a marginal NHL player.

    Whiffing on the Paajarvi pick is a dark stain on his record.

    Ok, would you like to list the “scads” of players picked outside the first round who have made an impact in the NHL since the 2008 draft?

  17. cabbiesmacker says:

    Would be nice if we had some kids to call up that could impact the way these two have in short order. The rich just keep getting richer.

    Chicago Blackhawks

    Jimmy Hayes 22 yrs old 10 GP 4 G 3 A

    Andrew Shaw 20 yrs old 8GP 5 G 1 A

    Outside of Oiler first rounders none of the kids have grabbed the brass ring imo.

  18. Lowetide says:

    The only pick I’m wondering about is Hartikainen, but honestly I think coach Renney might be doing the sideburns thing on him. The poor MBS picks (Hesketh, Abney) were known before the start of the season and for the rest of the group it’s some arrows up and others down.

    So, Paajarvi is a draft fail now? Wow.

  19. cabbiesmacker says:

    Schitzo: Ok, would you like to list the “scads” of players picked outside the first round who have made an impact in the NHL since the 2008 draft?

    Theres a decent list actually.

  20. hockeyguy10 says:

    DSF:
    McGregor has been the Oilers head scout since 2007.

    The only non first round pick to have any impact in the NHL since then is Anton Lander and he is a marginal NHL player.

    Whiffing on the Paajarvi pick is a dark stain on his record.

    And drafted Eberle in 2008

  21. cabbiesmacker says:

    Lowetide:
    The only pick I’m wondering about is Hartikainen, but honestly I think coach Renney might be doing the sideburns thing on him. The poor MBS picks (Hesketh, Abney) were known before the start of the season and for the rest of the group it’s some arrows up and others down.

    So, Paajarvi is a draft fail now? Wow.

    LT, I’ll say Hatikainen makes the grade before Pitlick does. Quite possibly long before.

  22. Lowetide says:

    Which makes sense, right? Hartikainen is 18 months older and was drafted two years beforehand. Hartikainen is a helluva prospect, no harm in not catching him in year one of pro hockey.

  23. James says:

    Let’s cherry pick results with the benefit of hindsight, and then congratulate ourselves while annoying people who are infinitely more annoyed with their sad-sack team than they’ll ever be with you. A good use of time, for sure.

    DSF, you really do have a lot of great insight. A lot of grade ‘A’ horse-shit too. It’s a gentle ballet, but I’ll be thrilled when (if?) you find the balance.

    Apologies, LT. Love the new home, don’t mean to derail the conversation.

  24. ohhell says:

    I would have thought the best way to adress DSF’s comments is to simply ignore them. I continue to be amazed at all who play along with his childish ways. Can we not all agree to simply ignore him. Please? It will make for a much more enjoyable thread. Cheers.

  25. DeadmanWaking says:

    but curiosity and camaraderie prevailed, and soon she and Barbara were doing it by turns with the silent, coarse and surly but indefatigable Charlie, who had as much sex appeal as a raw carrot but sported a fascinating collection of contraceptives which he used to fish out of a third nearby lake

    A different—hopefully more pristine—Lake Climax would have been visible over Katz’s left elbow, 20km Radium ho, if they traced the crow’s route from Edmonton to Kelowna to offer up the World’s Largest Emerald to the spurn queen.

    I’ve wended through most of Kubrick, but not Lolita. My American Cousin, set in Penticton, was racy enough for me. Got my worst sunburn ever clamouring over some sandy bluffs at a Penticton church camp as a ten year old. Lobster city. Actually, I lie. I’m quite fond of Exotica for its labyrinthine seductions, to paraphrase Ebert. “What he needs from Christina is not physical.” Not your father’s camaraderie. Or your grandfather’s, now that I recall Larra Linney turning some superb scenes in Kinsey.

  26. Chamucks says:

    <——— Note the picture.

  27. Gret99zky says:

    Ah, breaker one-nine, this here’s the Rubber Duck. You gotta copy on me, Ell Tee, c’mon? Ah, yeah, 10-4, Ell Tee, fer shure, fer shure. By golly, it’s clean clear to Draft Town, c’mon. Yeah, that’s a big 10-4 there, Ell Tee, yeah, we definitely got the front door, good buddy. Mercy sakes alive, looks like we got us a convoy…

  28. hags9k says:

    While there is plenty of blame to go around in Oil country, I don’t think it should reach MBS quite yet. Way too early to close the book on a 20 year old Magnus and ditto Hamilton and Pitlick.

    If we weren’t getting slaughtered in the NHL right now we wouldn’t be putting unfair blame on MBS and his picks on the farm who aren’t helping yet.

    For myself, I’ll judge MBS on the futures of Klefbom and Musil who are obviously very important picks for us. At least one of them needs to pan out. The Eberle pick alone gives the man a long leash with me.

  29. Ribs says:

    Lowetide:
    So, Paajarvi is a draft fail now? Wow.

    9pts in 10 games in the AHL so far. Feed him to the hooounds!

  30. Ribs says:

    It sounds like some people were pretty impressed with Hartikainen’s last NHL showing. I have to say that I was a little dissapointed. It looked like teams remembered him from last season and made a point to send someone to destroy him each game. It seemed to put a damper on his play. Didn’t he get crushed on his first shift this year?

  31. Woodguy says:

    DSF:
    Schitzo,

    Thing is…none of them are Oilers.

    Thing is DSF, there are almost none of them in PItlick’s draft year.

    Its too early to be looking for returns already for last year’s draft class (outside of the really high end kids) and you know it.

    Here is a list of players picked after Pitlick (31st) who have played an NHL game:

    Justin Faulk 37th pick – 32 NHL games
    Devante Smith-Pelly 42nd pick – 26 NHL games
    Brett Bulmer – 39th pick – 9 NHL games.

    There are also 21 players picked BEFORE Pitlick, who have yet to play an NHL game.

    Its far, far, far, far too early to be questioning this pick, but I know you know that.

    The majority if the kids picked before him are still playing in the CHL.

    Looking at previous drafts with 20/20 hindsight is panning for fool’s gold unless you have point to a post where you disagreed with the pick at the time and not Monday Morning Quarterbacking at your leisure.

  32. commonfan14 says:

    Lowetide: So, Paajarvi is a draft fail now? Wow.

    It’s definitely too early to call him a busted prospect. That’s ridiculous.

    It’s just become too bad that they didn’t elect to go with one of the D-men instead.

    Of course, if you’d have told the brass in the summer of 2009 that grabbing a D prospect was more important than getting the best forward available, they’d have thought you were nuts considering the roster at the time.

  33. Woodguy says:

    DSF:
    McGregor has been the Oilers head scout since 2007.

    The only non first round pick to have any impact in the NHL since then is Anton Lander and he is a marginal NHL player.

    Whiffing on the Paajarvi pick is a dark stain on his record.

    Whiff eh?

    Paajarvi was taken 10th overall that year.

    So far he is 10th in NHL games played from the draft class.

    So far he is 10th in NHL points from his draft class.

    You have lots to offer with your knowledge of hockey and you have some very good insight, but why do you keep posting crap like “Paajarvi is a bust” when you know he couldn’t possibly make that call, and by most metrics is performing well compared to where he was taken?

    Also,

    11/12 Pts/60 5v5

    Gagner 1.55
    Kesler 1.50

    :)

  34. DSF says:

    @WG

    Way too early to be judging Pitlick or that draft class…no argument from me.

    My point was really… have we seen one later round pick of McGregor’s exceed expectations to this point?

    I can certainly agree that Eberle was a great pick but, other than that, I just don’t see the justification for the lionization.

    I guess the kind of success I’m talking about (at the risk of being accused of cherry picking) is Brad Marchand (3rd round) , Ryan O’Reilly (33rd overall in the 09 draft) or Adam Henrique (3rd round 08)

    As LT mentions, perhaps Hartikainen may be one such possibility, but I can’t really see any others.

  35. DSF says:

    Woodguy: Whiff eh?

    Paajarvi was taken 10th overall that year.

    So far he is 10th in NHL games played from the draft class.

    So far he is 10th in NHL points from his draft class.

    You have lots to offer with your knowledge of hockey and you have some very good insight, but why do you keep posting crap like “Paajarvi is a bust” when you know he couldn’t possibly make that call, and by most metrics is performing well compared to where he was taken?

    Also,

    11/12 Pts/60 5v5

    Gagner 1.55
    Kesler 1.50

    LOL…Kesler is having a bitch of a season.

    11/12 PTS/60 5V5

    Kyle Wellwood

    1.82

  36. Woodguy says:

    DSF:
    @WG

    Way too early to be judging Pitlick or that draft class…no argument from me.

    My point was really… have we seen one later round pick of McGregor’s exceed expectations to this point?

    I can certainly agree that Eberle was a great pick but, other than that, I just don’t see the justification for the lionization.

    I guess the kind of success I’m talking about (at the risk ofbeing accused of cherry picking) is Brad Marchand (3rd round) , Ryan O’Reilly (33rd overall in the 09 draft) or Adam Henrique (3rd round 08)

    As LT mentions, perhaps Hartikainen may be one such possibility, but I can’t really see any others.

    It would be nice to see, but its still early.

    Stu didn’t actually lead a draft until 2008, and it usually takes some time for later guys to pan out.

    From 2008 Hartikainen, like LT mentioned, is on probably on track if the coach would give him the at bats.

    From 2009 I hate the Hesketh and Abney being picked where they were, but Bigos might have a chance. Most college D not taken early tend to finish school before going pro. Of course Roy has a chance too, but most have Bunz ahead of him.

    When interviewed about the picks shortly after the 2009 draft Stu intimated that Abney was an “organizational pick”. I really hate picking him so early.

    Only 4 players taken after the 2nd round in 2009 have played more than 40 NHL games, and none have more than 50.

    From 2010 Pitlick, Marincin, and Bunz will all probably play in the NHL. Hamilton, Blain, Davidson and Czerwonka have outside shot.

    Two years from now will tell how good Stu drafts late. Now is still far too early.

  37. rickithebear says:

    Woodguy is Correct to a point.
    You can look at a draft but you have to be realistic.
    You have to select near what the rest of the community believes is the first two rounds.
    Gagner:
    .65PPG over 5 Years.
    Once he started to get Minutes to shift count on Nov 25th he has been 5 G 12A in 24GM
    .71PPG.
    Kane you take before him.
    JVR currently less Production but is a 20-20 guy who could be 25-25.
    Turris is a .71PPG player with Spezza nad Alfredson
    Voracek less production
    Couture .7PPG with the likes of Pavelski, Clowe, Marleau.
    Pacioretty .549PPG career .75PPG
    Perron .57PPG career curently .75PPG
    People Bitch about gagner but he is the 2- 4th FWd in the draft. you slot in Couture for turris we still take Gagner.

    Plante:
    the speed of the game picked up the two years after this draft. All we here is Footspeed. Plante would be a low rounds prospect now.
    He was taken # 15
    At this time we have Danny Syvret and Mab past creating a question of Small Dmen in our organization.
    The next big 6’2 plus dmen do not come until
    Smith #27
    Cross #35
    Cohen #45
    For me :
    gagner is the third best forward selected in the draft.
    Plante is a victim of the footspeed change but no diffrent than most of the other size guys

    These look backs:
    2005:
    Top Pick Cogliano was the 14th Forward taken and the only better would have been Raymond , Downie, Neal, Latendresse, Kostitsyn, Hornquist.
    But you play the What if game.
    Every team gets the best at there pick and look at that the 14th best forward available is Cogliano. Pie in the eye.
    2006:
    Top Pick Petry : only better production Mcbain. Pie in the eye. Petry , Mcbain, Mcdonald are not There when we pick.
    2007
    We end up with Voracek or Gagner:
    2008:
    We end up with Boedker or Bailey instead of Eberle.
    2009:
    MP was the 7th Fwd. he would be the 6th taken
    Our choice would be Kadri(schremp #2) or O’reilly. Lander would not be there at 40.

    Pie in Sky looks we end up with one equal and 4 worse.

    With the selections from 2010 on the yhave learned the lessons.
    Now we select Footspeed with Size. on the upper rounds and lack of speed or Scoring in the lower rounds.
    6’1″ and under with Weight and point production Dmen in the 2nd and 3rd rounds.
    I still have a problem with future 30 pt players before the fifth round.
    Pitlik #31
    Ewanyk #74
    Abney #82

    Since 2009 Dmen:
    Bigos RD4 6’5″ 230Lb dman 25 Point NHL potential.
    Hesketh Rd 3 whole family is 6’5″+ He did not Grow
    Davidson Rd6 6’2″ 20pt Dman
    Blain Rd 4 6’2″ potential 35-40PT Dman
    Marincin Rd 2 6’4″ potential 30PT Dman
    Getrnat Rd5 6’5″ Potential 30PT Dman
    Simpson Rd 4 6’1″ Potential 20 PT dman
    Musil Rd 2 6’3″ Dominate 20 point Shut down Dman
    Klefbom rd #1 6’4″ WJC Allstar (rare) look who he beat out.

    Goalies:
    Roy Rd 5 .914 SV% minor Pro
    Bunz Rd 5 .920 SV% in junior
    Tuohimma Rd 7 .900 Sv% in Sm-ligga
    Perhonnen RD3

    Stu Is creating amazing Depth:

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