G52 Red Wings at Oilers

Every great team since 1967 spring can point to the draft as a major source of raw materials for their dynasty. NHL teams figured out the importance of the draft long ago, but it doesn’t always work; sometimes the light switch does nothing when engaged, sometimes the tumblers don’t tumble, sometimes there’s a friggin’ in the riggin’.

Most often, the rebuild takes much longer than expected.

Marcel Dionne was an exceptional young player in the spring of 1971. Scouts had Dionne and Guy Lafleur graded out as the top amateurs in the land, and when the Red Wings called his name in 1971 it should have been the beginning of a run to glory. Things started out well enough, Gordie Howe nicknamed him “Little Beaver” and early on it became obvious Dionne would be a prolific scorer in the NHL.

That was 1971-72. Just a few short years later, Dionne forced his way out of Detroit. The story is long, so it comes in bits:

If you click on the first one, you can read the entire story. Bottom line for Detroit: in his 4 seasons there, Dionne’s coaches were Johnny Wilson, Ted Garvin, Alex Delvecchio and Doug Barkley. The worst GM in NHL history presided over the mess and is got so bad Gordie retired, Dionne walked and darkness fell over Hockeytown.

This isn’t darkness with Harkness, but if the Oilers don’t start winning games consistently and pushing for the playoffs then bad things will happen. Not signing Ales Hemsky doesn’t do the 12-13 Oilers any favors, and trading him for picks and prospects means you are moving back the wins again. At some point, teenagers grow into young men and agents have the long term view for their clients.

The Edmonton Oilers are owned by Darryl Katz, relatively new to the franchise running industry and sure to make a few missteps along the way. The Dustin Penner trade a year ago meant Oscar Klefbom was an Oiler and someday he can help. However, should the Oilers deal Ales Hemsky for picks and prospects, I think we can begin to ask some questions that will be uncomfortable.

Questions like “how many years will Taylor Hall and Oscar Klefbom be on the same team?”

Despite what Alex Delvecchio said in that 37-year old article posted, Marcel Dionne didn’t leave for dollars, it wasn’t about the money. It was about survival: sooner or later things have to get better or the frustration becomes too much. Ask Marcel Dionne, ask Rick Nash.

Ask Papillon.

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  1. delooper says:

    If he keeps getting 8 point nights he’s going to be a pretty good hockey player.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Gagner is in a zone. Hope he gets enough to pass 50 by season’s end.

  3. danny says:

    can we combine the final 30 of the last game with this 30 for 89s point streak?

  4. Henry says:

    Gagner went down to the Crossroads.

  5. Woodguy says:

    DSF: LT used that phrase as an epithet for two years leading up to the signing go Horcoff to his golden contract.

    Denying that is North Korean in it’s epic glory.

    No one is saying it now, which is what Traktor was intimating.

    Yes, so 2005 then.

    You know that was 7 years ago and 10 was actually good then.

    Context is all I’m asking for.

  6. fuzzy muppet says:

    Sam might get 16 this game. What a roll

  7. Jon K says:

    Lowetide,

    50 goals might be pushing it. We should probably be happy with 40. ;)

  8. spoiler says:

    And 89 is on the ice again… Do they give him the point?

  9. Woodguy says:

    Lidstrom and Stuart out against 14,89,4.

    Didn’t seem to matter there.

  10. delooper says:

    I suppose nobody has had consecutive 8-point games.

  11. Traktor says:

    wow.

    Gags is beasting right now.

  12. spoiler says:

    Unbelievable. What’s the record for being in on consecutive goals?

  13. striatic says:

    oh Conklin .. don’t you ever change.

  14. Rondo says:

    Okay

    Ganger for Stamkos

  15. Lowetide says:

    What the hockey equivalent of a perfect game?

  16. Gerta Rauss says:

    We want 10!! We want 10!!

  17. unca miltie says:

    anybody know where i can get a feed? can’t cbc here

  18. delooper says:

    They gave him the assist, btw.

  19. danny says:

    Rondo:
    Okay

    Ganger for Stamkos

    No thanks. Gagner got a girlfriend here.

  20. Rebilled says:

    Hope they keep 89 and 83.

    Should give us a good glance at this team when Tommy Gills gets back.

  21. Rebilled says:

    Jesus

  22. fuzzy muppet says:

    Keep your head up son

  23. Henry says:

    Sutton can feel free to unload on Zetterberg now.

  24. Gret99zky says:

    That’s what you get for going into the tough areas I guess.

  25. danny says:

    way to go Hemsky. First off the ice this game and we get a 4:00 penalty.

    #badexample

  26. stevezie says:

    If Potter got two minutes I’d love that call. Four is bizarre.

  27. fuzzy muppet says:

    AS usual, referees love Detroit

  28. bookje says:

    Henry:
    Gagner went down to the Crossroads.

    I was just about to post the same thing!

  29. bookje says:

    Wow, too bad Hemsky isn’t tough like all of the posters here.

  30. bookje says:

    Bullshit call

  31. Gret99zky says:

    Clearly Detroit is not interested in aquiring #83. Damn near killed him.

  32. bookje says:

    If your not going to call the headhunting , don’t call a double major for the retribution.

  33. striatic says:

    not sure i like Smyth on the top of the triangle on the 5 on 3 PK, not sure he has the speed to challenge the point shot, but it seemed to work so what do i know?

  34. Bos8 says:

    sliderule: The game isn’t just pts/60 or corsi it’s partly how your work ethic affects the other players on the team.Hemmer had flash and dash but either thru injury,attitude or lack of all around ability was never able to lead the oil to better things

    You’re trololol right?

    “Dear Ales, Please find attached one only, 200 pound anchor. He responds to Horcs. Don’t slap him on the shoulder too much because as you know that hurts” Happy cornering, Good Luck and God Bless,

    PS
    We came this close the other year and expect to do better

    From the desk of K Lowe

  35. bookje says:

    What? I ussually defend refs, but this is bad.

  36. Lucinius says:

    For those questioning Hemsky leaving; he had no choice. Its the mandated quiet room after the head shot. He didn’t have a choice in leaving.

    Completely bullshit call by the refs. How do you get Potter for FOUR minutes and give Kronwall nothing, when he left his feet, elbow to the head? Sutton has been suspended for similar.

    The call on Smid was a proper call.

    Fantastic kill by the Oilers.

  37. Woodguy says:

    NHL Rule 43.6

    A player may not engage physically when said player has not touched the puck. Unless you play for Detroit.

  38. striatic says:

    bookje:
    What?I ussually defend refs, but this is bad.

    i thought the call on Smid was fine, but the extra 2 minutes on Potter and the non-call on Kronwall was a joke.

  39. spoiler says:

    Great play by Nuge on Datsyuk.

  40. spoiler says:

    I’m not used to Gagner not scoring on a shift.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Hemsky is a man. Anyone who suggests he doesn’t have the balls of a pirate can’t get it up.

  42. fuzzy muppet says:

    Jesus, Gagner’s so hot he’s winning Dzone draws against Datsyuk

  43. Rebilled says:

    spoiler,

    Kid is a wizard

  44. Woodguy says:

    *whew*

    Eager fought Commodore, everyone is safe now.

  45. spoiler says:

    Rebilled,

    Yes, but is he hung like a small Irish moose?

  46. fuzzy muppet says:

    Gagner’s so hot he’s scoring on his own team

  47. danny says:

    That was pretty funny.

  48. Woodguy says:

    Gagner to Whitney!!

    Wait…what??

  49. spoiler says:

    What a gay goal. Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  50. Gret99zky says:

    Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot.

    Use the damn boards Gags!

  51. Lowetide says:

    Fuxk. No GOOD.

  52. danny says:

    HOLY SHIT.

  53. spoiler says:

    Jesus shit. He keeps this up and the Pope will be forced to beatify him.

  54. Woodguy says:

    Sam Gagner is a bad, bad man.

  55. Gret99zky says:

    Errr, I mean, Love that Gags!

  56. Lowetide says:

    SAM GAGNER IS ON SOME KIND OF THING.

  57. bookje says:

    Gagne gets another assist (does that count?)

  58. OilClog says:

    THIS IS AMAZING! 4 points in one period for Ganger!!!

  59. delooper says:

    Wow!

  60. Rebilled says:

    Gagner with an assist on the Detroit goal so he scores one. Hilarious.

  61. nelson88 says:

    unbelievable! guy is a human highlight reel

  62. fuzzy muppet says:

    Everything touch Gags is going in the net. Doesn’t matter which net it is. That’s 11 straight points for his team. 12 if you count the Detroit goal

  63. jonrmcleod says:

    Sam Gagner is some sort of a phenomenon right now! And it’s also good to see that they brought plenty of sandpaper tonight.

  64. crude says:

    WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON!!!???

  65. Rondo says:

    Okay

    Gagner for Crosby and Malkin

  66. danny says:

    It was fun at first, then it was crazy… now its freakin eerie. Gagner is clearly Aztec. The end is near.

  67. Rondo says:

    Sam Gagner = Tim Tebow

  68. bookje says:

    I have never seen anything weirder than this in hockey!

  69. Woodguy says:

    If anyone can drive the Kevorka from Gagner its Scott Oake.

  70. delooper says:

    Gagner is a vampire and he drank Gretzky’s blood.

  71. cabbiesmacker says:

    Ok so some of the Oilers went to Cabo for the break.

    Sam Gagner went down to the Crossroads.

  72. Lucinius says:

    Gagner aside; Smid doesn’t get enough credit this year, imo. The shot blocks, the tough play and how much he’s stepped it up this year while Whitney, and then Gilbert, went out.

    And we almost traded him about a dozen times over and people complained about his contract.

    Also, unless I was mistaken, Hemsky played near the end of the first.

  73. unca miltie says:

    still looking for a feed..any help? can’t get cbc ! Any word on Hemmer? did he play again?

  74. danny says:

    Rondo:
    Sam Gagner = Tim Tebow

    hemsky = kyle williams? :D

  75. Gerta Rauss says:

    Woodguy:
    If anyone can drive the Kevorka from Gagner its Scott Oake.

    Now if we can get Horcoff to convert to Latvian Orthodox…

  76. bookje says:

    Getting weird – the end is near!

  77. delooper says:

    This service has a couple of feeds listed: http://www.lshunter.tv/hockey-live-streaming-video.html one is working for me.

  78. danny says:

    unca miltie,

    Try first row sports

  79. spoiler says:

    If the public had the Internet back in Gretzky’s day, it would have sounded just like these last two GDT’s.

  80. jonrmcleod says:

    Yes, I’m was really impressed with Gagner’s breathing during the intermission interview.

  81. striatic says:

    Lucinius,

    Smid is crazy fearless. first reflex is always ‘how can i put myself in front of this puck’, no matter how hard the shot.

    i don’t think he has the offensive accumen to make a great top pairing D-man but have always maintained he is an excellent top 4 D. seems like he’s good in the room too.

  82. Bos8 says:

    That would have to be First row sports.eu

    First row has been shut down by ICE

  83. delooper says:

    @Spoiler: I don’t know about that. At some point I just came to expect magic from Gretzky. From anyone else it’s a big shock. It’s like how I always expected something horrific and scary from Messier, then a brutally awesome play shortly after it. Then he’d go wide and score.

  84. crude says:

    P. J. Stock couldn’t be more wrong about Eager’s fight.

  85. eidy says:

    Apparently hrudey is an expert in Lamaze.

  86. Gerta Rauss says:

    PJ likes Cam Barker a lot

  87. danny says:

    holy crap. How does blood GUSH from a face like that?

  88. stevezie says:

    What did Stock say?

  89. Traktor says:

    crude:
    P. J. Stock couldn’t be more wrong about Eager’s fight.

    What did he say?

  90. Traktor says:

    danny:
    holy crap. How does blood GUSH from a face like that?

    What happened?

  91. hunter1909 says:

    Haven’t seen the OIlers look this offensively competent since the dynasty.

    Hate the Wings, just hate everything about those entitled pricks.

    Yes, this is getting to me.

    NOTE: Saw Cam Barker on ice for that second goal.

  92. crude says:

    Traktor: What did he say?

    He basically said her didn’t understand the timing. thought – spontaneous and useless. Maybe I am just more invested in the game then he is, but it seemed like a great response to the hit on Hemsky.

  93. stevezie says:

    Never before have I missed not being able to see a 1st intermission interview. Can Gagner believe it? Does he know what’s going on?

  94. Gerta Rauss says:

    I think the blood danny was referring to was from Travis Hamonic’s face after he got hit with the puck.

  95. hunter1909 says:

    bookje:
    Wow, too bad Hemsky isn’t tough like all of the posters here.

    I can provide a list of many of the girls I’ve fought over the years.

  96. crude says:

    Traktor: What happened?

    This is take two, because I can’t spell and have been drinking (love the edit button)

    He basically said he didn’t understand the timing – thought it spontaneous and useless. Maybe I am just more invested in the game then he is, but it seemed like a great response to the hit on Hemsky.

  97. bookje says:

    It’s funny, I am now cheering against Oiler chances not involving Gagner.

  98. danny says:

    that shift from RNH is testament to the fact that age/experience is talents ugly cousin.

  99. fuzzy muppet says:

    Refs will give Detroit every chance they can to win…

  100. Henry says:

    Is anyone here at the game? It sounds like the crowd is silent. Like an 80′s crowd. Used to two scoring chances per minute.

  101. striatic says:

    Whitney seems to be missing a step. beat on that icing, now the hooking.

  102. GordM says:

    Detroit covering Gagner like Ian White on rice

  103. danny says:

    crude: This is take two, because I can’t spell and have been drinking (love the edit button)

    He basically said he didn’t understand the timing – thought it spontaneous and useless. Maybe I am just more invested in the game then he is, but it seemed like a great response to the hit on Hemsky.

    I was talking about Hominic. I havent seen blood gush ike that since Zednik or Malarchuk… no idea how blood gushes like that from his face?

  104. crude says:

    danny: I was talking about Hominic. I havent seen blood gush ike that since Zednik or Malarchuk… no idea how blood gushes like that from his face?

    “have been drinking”

    I’m going to sign out now.

  105. bookje says:

    You know, I was just thinking – Do you think Hemsky being so buttersoft made it easier to get up from that hit and play. Whenever I punch butter really hard, it absorbs a lot of the energy in a soft ‘crumplezone’ kind of way?

  106. Woodguy says:

    PJ stock said the Oilers are a .700 team with Barker in the line up and .350 without him, therefore he was a HUGE acquisition for the Oilers.

    He also said the end of a period is a bad time for Eager to fight becuase it can’t give your team momentum, and then pointed to the Wings goal as evidence.

  107. delooper says:

    Ganger hasn’t scored in almost 8 minutes. I think he’s lost his touch. What has you done for me lately, Gagner!?!

  108. spoiler says:

    “DID YOU SEE THAT!?”

    Why yes Mark, I did. And it was beautiful.

  109. bookje says:

    Were the CBC guys just saying the wings are the best team in hockey because they hold practices? Wow, once other teams catch in to that, it’s going to change the game.

  110. Professor Q says:

    Don’t worry, Eager will save the day and win the game for us by giving the Red Wings a brisk talking to after each play…

  111. Woodguy says:

    93 is a witch

  112. crude says:

    this here is a fun game.

  113. striatic says:

    i like the Oilers standing up, fighting back.

    Detroit is looking tired though.

  114. spoiler says:

    Okay, we have a witch, a wizard, a pirate, Robert Johnson and a small Irish moose. What are we missing?

  115. bookje says:

    Pass to Gagner! Pass to Gagner!

  116. Henry says:

    That McDonald kid is sharp . Ty would have let in a couple this period.

  117. Gerta Rauss says:

    Eager’s got a little Lloyd Braun in him but I don’t mind as long as he’s not leaving us shorthanded.

  118. danny says:

    Im dumbfounded at RNH yet again. The kid doesn’t have a ceiling. We’re talking Crosby territory when he fills out.

  119. Professor Q says:

    The Nuge’s line doesn’t seem like they’re working completely together, or not on the same page etc.

  120. spoiler says:

    So are we all sending Scott Awkward an email asking Tambellini why Hemsky hasn’t received a contract offer?

  121. Thinker says:

    Word is the nhl is changing its name to the Sam Gagner Hockey Leaugue(SGHL) and the new crest is an 89 with pictures of gagner in the circles in the 8 and 9

  122. fuzzy muppet says:

    I’ll take this Cam Barker if he plays like that. looked solid tonight….SO FAR

  123. Woodguy says:

    Barker lost the fat waddle under his chin.

    Maybe he took the time off to straighten out his priorities

  124. wuthering says:

    I know there are a lot of Barker haters here. From junior up, he’s never been considered too quick; his strengths have been his shot and passing. Whatever the case, IMO, he’s a major upgrade on Teddy (contrary to whoever was suggesting yesterday that Barker might not even be AHL caliber). He may yet turn out.

  125. ASkoreyko says:

    I know it’s not fashionable around these parts to say this, but I am liking Barker’s game so far since he returned.

    He will probably never live up to his draft position, but I think he could be a decent top 4 option.

  126. Lowetide says:

    Wuthering: It isn’t hate, he hasn’t done the things we see from useful defensemen. GOD knows we’re hoping he delivers.

  127. Gerta Rauss says:

    spoiler:
    So are we all sending Scott Awkward an email asking Tambellini why Hemsky hasn’t received a contract offer?

    What is Oake’s email address again?

  128. Henry says:

    Jones really picked up Belanger after two icings. Good effort when tired.

  129. bookje says:

    ASkoreyko:
    I know it’s not fashionable around these parts to say this, but I am liking Barker’s game so far since he returned.

    He will probably never live up to his draft position, but I think he could be a decent top 4 option.

    No, it’s ok to say it when it’s true. He looks better tonight.

  130. Ducey says:

    What the hell is wrong with Gagner. Its been almost a period! FODDER….

  131. Woodguy says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    Eager’s got a little Lloyd Braun in him but I don’t mind as long as he’s not leaving us shorthanded.

    That vacant look where you become sure not all the brain signals reach their destination?

  132. bookje says:

    This game is boring.

  133. Gerta Rauss says:

    Woodguy,

    Yeah,that’s it.

    Serenity now.

  134. bookje says:

    Sutton looked like Gagner there.

  135. crude says:

    Is it wrong to feel like keeping Sutton?

  136. GordM says:

    Sutton clearly spending time with Eberle after practice.

  137. delooper says:

    I really like Sutton’s charges up the ice. He blocks out the sun.

  138. delooper says:

    Maybe Gagner’s injured. That’s why he wasn’t scoring 4 points a period earlier in the season.

  139. Woodguy says:

    I blame Scott Oake

  140. fuzzy muppet says:

    Gagner’s making plays along the boards I’ve never seen him make.

    Just playing GREAT

  141. spoiler says:

    Yeah, I’d extend Sutton too. Nothing major mind you, but in light of our defensive depth I don’t know why we wouldn’t keep him.

    Gerta, haven’t looked yet. But I think you would have to go to CBC’s website.

  142. Gerta Rauss says:

    crude:
    Is it wrong to feel like keeping Sutton?

    I don’t think it’s wrong,I just think we need to be aiming a little higher.

    If we’re keeping Petry and Potter and Barker is Management’s pet project, where are all these guys going to fit..?
    If we keep all the D we have this year are we going to be measurably better on defence next year..?

    If Peckham and Barker are not on this team next year,I wouln’t mind Sutton as a 6/7 D making less money than he is now.

  143. hunter1909 says:

    Barker’s playing great – especially the way he stuffed that dirty, filthy wing who dared skate near the oiler goal.

    Best of all, Barker was smiling as he skated away, and looked like a crazed hillbilly. I come from a long line of hillbillies, and like the idea of having one on the team.

    This game is so good, I don’t even mind the CBC broadcast team, the refs, etc.

    Gagner’s starting to look like he plays for the USSR national team.

  144. Gerta Rauss says:

    I guess keeping Sutton might depend on what is offered at the deadline this year as well…I think he could bring back a 2nd round pick under the right circumstances.

    Spoiler-his address was posted here in the last 24 hours I’m just too lazy to go back through the posts.

  145. wuthering says:

    Lowetide:
    Wuthering: It isn’t hate, he hasn’t done the things we see from useful defensemen. GOD knows we’re hoping he delivers.

    No, SS definitely is a hater . . . and there are others

  146. Gerta Rauss says:

    wuthering: No, SS definitely is a hater . . . and there are others

    I’m no hater-I called him vanilla useful a couple days ago. My problem is with his qualifying offer–$2.25M-start there and add term. Is that good value for (what appears to be) a 3rd pairing defenceman?

  147. Ducey says:

    Trade Sutton and bring him back in July. Best of both worlds.

  148. GordM says:

    Lowe negotiating with Holland? Talk about bringing a knife to a gun fight

  149. Gerta Rauss says:

    Something tells me this game isn’t over yet.

  150. Woodguy says:

    Everyone Horcoff checks in the crease has multiple whacks at the puck lately.

  151. stevezie says:

    You remember when Souray criticized Tambo for a truely bizarre unwillingness to communicae anything at all, and he got killed for it? Does Hemsky using the media to beg for a a word, any word, on whether or not management wants him at all not completely vinidicate Souray?

  152. striatic says:

    ugh.

  153. maudite says:

    stevezie: You remember when Souray criticized Tambo for a truely bizarre unwillingness to communicae anything at all, and he got killed for it? Does Hemsky using the media to beg for a a word, any word, on whether or not management wants him at all not completely vinidicate Souray?

    Yeah, I logged back in to here after I heard that comment. Made me want to vommit a little. No way to treat one of your longest serving oilers at all.

  154. fuzzy muppet says:

    Barker started that whole goal against sequence. Terrible play on his man at center ice.

  155. Woodguy says:

    wuthering:
    I know there are a lot of Barker haters here.From junior up, he’s never been considered too quick; his strengths have been his shot and passing.Whatever the case, IMO, he’s a major upgrade on Teddy (contrary to whoever was suggesting yesterday that Barker might not even be AHL caliber).He may yet turn out.

    Barker gets out shot worse than any other Oiler D, including the AHL call ups (except Plante)

    With Smid, Potter and Gilbert RNH out shoots his oppent or comes close. When playing with Barker he gets out shoot by 33 per 60 min of ice time together.

    I hope Barker gets better, but in terms of out shooti (therefore out playing) oppoents, he is not good.

  156. Woodguy says:

    Zetterburg’s line is dominating 10,83,93

  157. Lucinius says:

    Personally, I blame Scott Oake for everything past the first period.

  158. spoiler says:

    I would even take a non-Gagner goal at this point.

  159. wuthering says:

    Gerta Rauss: I’m no hater-I called him vanilla useful a couple days ago. My problem is with his qualifying offer–$2.25M-start there and add term. Is that good value for (what appears to be) a 3rd pairing defenceman?

    I fully agree they could have got him for less money, and I’m not saying he’s top-pairing. Having watched him through the years, his skill-set is better than his numbers. It’s no secret that he’s had some substance issues which more than likely contributed to his performance through a few year stretch. Obviously, he certainly requires a great deal of improvement to earn a re-signing. I feel the tools are there, whether management can get him turned around is another question. Josh Hamilton-like stories are few and far between, and he almost certainly won’t be that kind of story. It does remain a possibility, however, that he can find some redemption in his disappointing career. I’m more optimistic than many.

  160. wordbird says:

    Dwayne ‘The Rock’ Johnson riding a giant bee? Thank you, Hollywood.

  161. Gerta Rauss says:

    wuthering,

    I wasn’t referring to what they got him for last summer-I’m referring to what it’s going to cost them to re-sign him.

    Fuckin’ Bertuzzi.

  162. delooper says:

    Sutton didn’t blot out the sun that time. :(

  163. Ducey says:

    Still want to keep Sutton?

  164. fuzzy muppet says:

    Every time I think this team is turning a corner…BAM another blown lead in a game they should have won

  165. delooper says:

    Edmonton isn’t half bad.

  166. fuzzy muppet says:

    EBerle is clutch

  167. Gerta Rauss says:

    Eberle is a beauty.

  168. spoiler says:

    He’s Jesus.

  169. regwald says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    EBerle is clutch

    Eberle, truly is clutch !

  170. fuzzy muppet says:

    This has been a pretty fun game…they seem to be playing alot of those lately

  171. stevezie says:

    Hemsky showcases himself with two points (though as WG pointed out, it hasn’t been universally good).

  172. Woodguy says:

    I hope that MPS is made to watch a ton of film of 14 and 89 score in the blue paint

    Firstofftheice with 2 asissts tonight.

  173. Rebilled says:

    Eberle Dancing Into The Zone is my favorite song.

  174. cadooo says:

    44 just took out 44 4 on 4 score is 4 to 4!

  175. delooper says:

    Edmonton is a streaky team, but they no longer stink. It’s been a long time coming.

  176. wordbird says:

    OMFG.

  177. Ducey says:

    44 with a nice OT

  178. Lucinius says:

    Lidstrom needs to retire.

    Like two minutes ago.

  179. striatic says:

    Whitney has looked bad tonight. Sutton too.

    Potter has looked great tho, imho, all game.

  180. ASkoreyko says:

    Since when does Hall pass in that situation?

  181. Rebilled says:

    I don’t mind going into the shoot-out with the kids back. 6 and oh doesn’t mean nothing with the back-up back-up goalie.

    We wait.

  182. striatic says:

    ASkoreyko,

    it was the right play, wasn’t his fault RNH bobbled it and Whitney can’t shoot.

  183. wuthering says:

    Woodguy: Barker gets out shot worse than any other Oiler D, including the AHL call ups (except Plante)

    With Smid, Potter and Gilbert RNH out shoots his oppent or comes close.When playing with Barker he gets out shoot by 33 per 60 min of ice time together.

    I hope Barker gets better, but in terms of out shooti (therefore out playing) oppoents, he is not good.

    WG,
    I enjoy your posts here, and your work. I am not making a math argument here. One could argue your sample size in this illustration is somewhat small, but his previous years’ play seems to substantiate your point–further I agree he’s played poorly. My argument is that he has much better potential than his numbers. The scouts during his draft-year were not a bunch of idgits–this kid has played at an elite level which I’ve seen. I’ve been hard on Ted this year for his play, though I remain optimistic that he can be a gritty number 6-8 that is vital for any decent team. I remain optimistic that Barker can turn the corner; even if it’s only based on his younger years.

  184. fuzzy muppet says:

    Belanger?? with Horcoff and RNH

  185. Rebilled says:

    Belanger?

  186. striatic says:

    well, they made that one fun : ]

  187. delooper says:

    That was a really fun game to watch. Woot!

  188. fuzzy muppet says:

    Nice, Hard fought victory against a really good team.

    if only they hadn’t wasted December and January

  189. wuthering says:

    Nice win. Gritty effort. Stick-to-it-iveness. Feels nice.

  190. Rebilled says:

    Double D!

    undefeated in 5!

  191. hunter1909 says:

    Fantastic game.

    And all the Barker haters are going to eat their words!

  192. Woodguy says:

    9 of 10 points against VAN, SJS, COL, CHI and DET.

    That’s very nice to see.

  193. Gerta Rauss says:

    Lots of fun to watch-nice.

  194. Lucinius says:

    Nice win. They almost gave it to Detroit in the third.

    Going with Belanger in the shootout is mystifying; but Renney loves Belanger despite his play.

    Nice finish, however. Two points in a game we should lose,

    Lately, they’re finding ways to win even at times when they should lose, so likely getting a loss against Toronto (alas).

  195. regwald says:

    Woodguy:
    9 of 10 points against VAN, SJS, COL, CHI and DET.

    That’s very nice to see.

    And that`s a darn tough stretch of games. Kudos to the Oilers for bouncing back. Nice win.

  196. striatic says:

    exciting 2nd to last place hockey!

  197. striatic says:

    they have gotten lucky exploiting bad goaltending two games in a row, although this game i think that was balanced by facing very good goaltending for 2/3rds of the game. so a well deserved win.

    .. despite Bertuzzi exploiting some very poor defending.

  198. Ducey says:

    striatic: exciting 2nd to last place hockey!

    Thats 27th place hockey now bub!

  199. stevezie says:

    Well the sun is rising where I am, but they made it worth it. I’m happy.

  200. spoiler says:

    Really this season has gone exactly as it should for a young rebuilding team. They’ve been very good at home and their powerplay has improved. We haven’t defended our arena like this since Pronger left. That’s a nice sign. If they were .500 on the road, they’d be in the playoffs. That’s the next step.

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