G62 Oilers at Jets (+ trade deadline)

The Edmonton Oilers and Winnipeg Jets are tied together in so many ways. Brought into the world at the same time, their most famous players and teams were fast and skilled and talented. Winnipeg won the championships early, the Oilers a decade or so later. Winnipeg won three, Edmonton five. The great Oilers teams were modeled on the Winnipeg philosophy, which was their nickname: the Jets.

I used to catch games (this is miles ago) at the old barn in Winnipeg and can say the Jets and their town were/are as close as the Oilers and ours. The absolute heartache suffered by Winnipeg after the merger should have killed the entire fanbase, but the Mayans of the north would not be denied and are working on a fresh calendar.

The Jets are doing well this season, with a chance to win a spot in the playoffs first time around and they could win the division if the sun shines and the floodway holds.

It’s deadline day.

Butch Goring–from St. Boniface, Manitoba–represents the official starting point for what has now become the trade deadline. Bill Torrey’s Islanders had been strong contenders for about 5 years by the time 1980′s deadline arrived, but they could never get over the hump and win the day. Torrey had his sights on a center to take the pressure off Bryan Trottier–it was rumored to be Darryl Sittler from Toronto–but couldn’t close the deal as the deadline approached.

Torrey went with a player he remembered from a 1977 playoff series agains the Bruins–Butch Goring of the LA Kings. Torrey felt Goring was the best player for the Kings in that series and kept him in mind in case the opportunity ever arose. As it turned out, Torrey had to overpay–he gave up a quality winger and a fine defenseman–to get Goring at the 1980 deadline.This item is from March of that year:

Bill Torrey: “Every GM has the mandate to win the Cup, but you can’t just say it. You have to back it up with the steps that convince your owner, your fans, the media that, yeah, we’re headed in the right direction.”

I think the Oilers sent a very positive message to the fanbase this past week, adding Ales Hemsky to that gifted young forward group. The management team can do even more at the deadline, addressing (if possible) holes like:

  • A legit defenseman who can play the hairy minutes. A real one, someone with a resume that tells us he can do the job alongside Gilbert, Smid, possibly Petry and maybe a healthy Whitney. That player may not be available at the deadline, but maybe there’s something creative available.
  • A goaltending option that will either serve as a backup option to DD or perhaps more desirable someone to push Dubnyk and offer the organizaiton another possible #1 option.
  • A strong, effective 2-way winger. I know size and toughness are often mentioned, but if the club can add a Dvorak type who can score goals, be effective without the puck and help the PK that should be considered a major success.

 

 

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  1. "Steve Smith" says:

    hags9k,

    On the downside, the Oilers are worse at hockey than they were yesterday. On the upside, their intangibles are through the roof!

    As Captain Obvious is fond of pointing out (in the context of size), intangibles matter…insofar as they are reflected by results. If you apply intangibles to offset a difference in results, you’re double-counting intangibles.

  2. "Steve Smith" says:

    I’ll also admit that that was a hell of a defensive play by RNH.

  3. hags9k says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    I agree. I’m just trying to figure out the the giant WTF that took place in Tambo’s head today.

  4. Lowetide says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Woodguy,

    Well, in fairness, he can have it both ways if he establishes that the date cutoff sometime between Dvorak’s March birthday and Pajaarvi’s April one.That would look a whole let less fishy if it was established before this specific debate, though.

    (And when you’re just comparing two players, especially two with such similar birthdays, there’s really no need to establish a cutoff – just use closeness of fit, which here clearly corresponds to your classification.)

    In backwards land anything is possible!

    Horcoff did a head deke thingy there, it was funny because the defender did ZERO to react. Poor Horc, everything he does offensively is low percentage at this point. If he plays to the end of this contract the Mendoza line might have a name change.

  5. "Steve Smith" says:

    hags9k,

    Gotcha. I’m feeling charitable, so I’m adopting, utterly without evidence, the “Gilbert demanded a trade to Minnesota” hypothesis.

  6. Woodguy says:

    Picky fucking icing call

  7. hunter1909 says:

    Crazy oilers defending the slot by stickhandling up the middle – suicide play but they’re all at it. Mark of a great team in development, methinks.

    Great game for the hockey purist tonight.

  8. "Steve Smith" says:

    Kyle Wellwood has infinity percent more goals tonight than Sam Gagner.

  9. skidplate says:

    hunter1909,

    Yes, they are having flashbacks to the 80′s when we owned them.

  10. spoiler says:

    The man said, “DRINK!”. Goddammit.

  11. DSF says:

    Woodguy: I had to double check.

    He’s trying to twist it to make PRV look worse.

    You know, standard DSF stuff.

    No need to make 0.25 PPG, -7 and a shooting percentage of 2.5 (terrible for a defenseman) any worse than it is.

    The only bright spot is his performance last season although that included quite a bit of time in the top 6 which is likely not coming around again anytime soon.

    The larger sample size likely is mkore accurate.

  12. Rebilled says:

    This best of 1 series is pretty good this year.

  13. spoiler says:

    Woodguy:
    Picky fucking icing call

    Yeah. That was as picky as I’ve ever seen. Linesman mighta had a brain fart.

    Kane has had some penalty issues along the boards the last few weeks. Might turn into that kinda player.

  14. Woodguy says:

    DSF: No need to make 0.25 PPG, -7 and a shooting percentage of 2.5 (terrible for a defenseman) any worse than it is.

    The only bright spot is his performance last season although that included quite a bit of time in the top 6 which is likely not coming around again anytime soon.

    The larger sample size likely is mkore accurate.

    PARLIAMENT!!

    DRINK!!

  15. "Steve Smith" says:

    DSF: No need to make 0.25 PPG, -7 and a shooting percentage of 2.5 (terrible for a defenseman) any worse than it is.

    So it was more of a “want”, then?

  16. pboy says:

    Quick strike on the PP.

  17. Lowetide says:

    BIG BEN! DRINK!

  18. "Steve Smith" says:

    I didn’t like Hemsky’s body language in putting that guy in a headlock. No passion.

  19. spoiler says:

    Did Hemsky just steer wrestle someone to the ice?

  20. "Steve Smith" says:

    spoiler,

    Yeah, but he was only doing it in the hopes of getting a penalty, so he could leave the period early.

  21. Woodguy says:

    Everyone with a PVR rewind and see who hauled LIttle out of the scrum with a headlock after he jumped Hall.

    Soft, not caring Euro Hemsky.

  22. fuzzy muppet says:

    That’s all Petry

  23. Gret99zky says:

    Petry with the poo tree.

  24. hunter1909 says:

    It’s going to end 7-6 LOL

    Okay. 6-5

    Tonight, Jet’s fans seeing oilers like their very own past/future version of the Dallas Stars, kids.

    Tonight is hockey school night for the young oilers.

  25. hags9k says:

    There’s the new #1 Jeff Petry everybody.

  26. jake70 says:

    Nice turnovers there by Hemsky and Petry.

  27. Lowetide says:

    Young defensemen. God almighty I’ve seen enough for a lifetime.

  28. DSF says:

    Woodguy:
    Everyone with a PVR rewind and see who hauled LIttle out of the scrum with a headlock after he jumped Hall.

    Soft, not caring Euro Hemsky.

    That ended well :)

  29. "Steve Smith" says:

    DSF,

    Almost as if “willingness to put people in headlocks” had very little to do with winning hockey games. Almost.

  30. skidplate says:

    Sure could of used Schultz there.

  31. pboy says:

    Woodguy:
    Everyone with a PVR rewind and see who hauled LIttle out of the scrum with a headlock after he jumped Hall.

    Soft, not caring Euro Hemsky.

    Obviously, you aren’t current on the MSM’s party line. It wasn’t Hemsky’s fault after all. It’s been that butter soft, pass happy, Minnesota loving’ Tom Gilbert whose been responsible for the fact that the Oilers have been the worst team in the NHL the decade.

    Things are looking up though. Nick Schultz is from the same province as Gordie Howe, so we’re cool.

  32. Lowetide says:

    Hall looks bad after the late shot there, I think there’s some maturity to go for the young man. Petry’s confidence has been on high lately, but just like kids everywhere he’s been pushing things and that play should serve as a slap and a reminder.

  33. DSF says:

    “Steve Smith”: So it was more of a “want”, then?

    Strangely enough, what I need or want seems to have little effect on Paajarvi’s actual performance on the ice.

    But when you’re a healthy scratch in favour of Ryan Jones you may want to start start studying the collected works of Gloria Grahame.

  34. spoiler says:

    DSF: That ended well

    Wow. Dreadfully Slow Fox, how do you expect anyone to give anything you write any cred whatsoever with random Junior High comments like that?

  35. hunter1909 says:

    I like these Jets.

    They play good clean skilled hockey, and have the toughies like Kane and Bryzguffalin to show Eberle(?) how to do a somersault over a defenceman’s back.

  36. Lowetide says:

    DSF: How does Paajarvi at 19 compare to Gretzky at 27? Might want to run that.

  37. fuzzy muppet says:

    DSF:

    Or study the mental capabilities of the head coach.

  38. "Steve Smith" says:

    Lowetide,

    Fuck that, I want to hear more about Kyle Wellwood.

  39. bill needle says:

    Petry just brutal… Among the worst plays of the season there.

  40. Woodguy says:

    DSF: Strangely enough, what I need or want seems to have little effect on Paajarvi’s actual performance on the ice.

    But when you’re a healthy scratch in favour of Ryan Jones you may want to start start studying the collected works of Gloria Grahame.

    Or change coaches.

  41. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Hall looks bad after the late shot there, I think there’s some maturity to go for the young man. Petry’s confidence has been on high lately, but just like kids everywhere he’s been pushing things and that play should serve as a slap and a reminder.

    He’s gotta stock beaking the refs too. Doesn’t get any calls and his ticky-tack ones end up with him in the box.

    Vanmassenhoven is a dick and a bad ref, but beaking him doesn’t help.

  42. DSF says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Lowetide,

    Fuck that, I want to hear more about Kyle Wellwood.

    How about Dustin Brown?

    He’s no Kyle Wellwood but 4G 5P in his last 2 games.

  43. Woodguy says:

    pboy: Obviously, you aren’t current on the MSM’s party line. It wasn’t Hemsky’s fault after all. It’s been that butter soft, pass happy, Minnesota loving’ Tom Gilbert whose been responsible for the fact that the Oilers have been the worst team in the NHL the decade.

    Things are looking up though. Nick Schultz is from the same province as Gordie Howe, so we’re cool.

    I can’t keep up anymore.

    So Paajarvi is scratched for Howe?

  44. DSF says:

    Woodguy: Or change coaches.

    Didn’t they already try that three times in the last four seasons?

    Who were you hoping for?

  45. spoiler says:

    Khabby would like to be part of the team for years to come… Has he looked at the birthdate on his driver’s license lately? Or did they take that from him?

  46. pboy says:

    Woodguy: I can’t keep up anymore.

    So Paajarvi is scratched for Howe?

    Lol

  47. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Man that looks like a fun rink to watch a game in. Good for the Peg. I originally predicted a 3 year honeymoon and then they’d be in trouble, but as long as the dollar stays close to par I think they’ll be fine. Definately on my list of rinks to see a game in.

  48. Woodguy says:

    DSF: How about Dustin Brown?

    He’s no Kyle Wellwood but 4G 5P in his last 2 games.

    EVERYONE THE OILERS DO NOT HAVE ARE GOOD

    EVERYONE ON THE OILERS IS BAD

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH EURASIA

    WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAS WITH EURASIA

  49. Woodguy says:

    DSF: Didn’t they already try that three times in the last four seasons?

    Who were you hoping for?

    Craig MacTavish

  50. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Horc on the #1 PP unit? Renneyyyyyyy

  51. DSF says:

    Woodguy: EVERYONE THE OILERS DO HAVE HAVE ARE GOOD

    EVERYONE ON THE OILERS IS BAD

    WE ARE AT WAR WITH EURASIA

    WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAS WITH EURASIA

    Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!

  52. Woodguy says:

    DSF: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!

    I did manage to edit it.

  53. "Steve Smith" says:

    DSF,

    It’s generally the first, actually.

    (Credit: Ambrose Bierce)

  54. Woodguy says:

    Jones!!

    Petrell!!

    Boy am I glad Paajarvi got scratched!!

    :p

  55. spoiler says:

    Not sure which is the bigger shock… Jones getting PP time after HS time or Petrell scoring.

  56. cabbiesmacker says:

    Woot. Sean of the Dead pots a softie

  57. Lowetide says:

    fucking Paajarvi. He’s nothing like Bob Baun. Or paint!

  58. Gret99zky says:

    Renney is a genius.

  59. "Steve Smith" says:

    I’m calling Hordichuk with the empty-netter.

  60. Lucinius says:

    I’m sorry…. but Petrell just looks creepy.

    Missed the second goal by Winnipeg and first by Edmonton, but I really don’t like Hall on/near the blue line on the powerplay at all.Not the first time I’ve said that, though.

    Nice pass by Hemsky to Nuge.. and Nuge then tries to one up Hemsky with the pass to Jones for the goal.

    But Hemsky is such a bad man. Surprised they let him stay with the kids. He may make them too soft.

  61. hunter1909 says:

    I’m really getting a kick out of watching an old timey game of shinny tonight.

    Jets play regularly vs Ovechkin and Stamkos. Taylor Hall is relatively easy for them, lol.

    Come on Jets, show up and win this meaningless game while you still can.

  62. Woodguy says:

    Hesmky is a point per game player since signing his extension.

  63. spoiler says:

    DSF: Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!

    Disgustingly Syphilitic Fox…

    Only you would go with a quote that is more famous for its lack of context than its meaning.

    Way to stay true!!

  64. Lucinius says:

    Don’t tease people, Woodguy. its not nice.

    Hemsky is trash and we grossly overpaid to keep him here for two years. He’s soft, disinterested, doesn’t score goals and I hear he kicks a puppy and eats a kitten before every game.

    Or something to that affect. I lost track of all the Hemsky bashing and where they are at.

  65. Lowetide says:

    Gagner with a poor play at the blue and then Petry with a nice one at our blue.

  66. Woodguy says:

    Lowetide:
    Gagner with a poor play at the blue and then Petry with a nice one at our blue.

    Yeah, weak no look back hander into 4 jets with his wingers in deep. Not good.

  67. Lucinius says:

    Even with his foibles, Petry looks a lot better lately. Seems to have added a fair bit of grit to his game along the boards in the defensive zone this year.

  68. Lowetide says:

    Creepy scored again!

  69. Rebilled says:

    Lenny Pets!

  70. Lucinius says:

    Also, I love these announcers. “Hemsky may have gotten a stick on it” regarding rbekaing up that 2v1 pass. I don’t think they got the memo — woo, another!

  71. spoiler says:

    Petrell, unbelievable.

    *runs outside to make sure there’s still a moon*

  72. hunter1909 says:

    hunter1909: Jets play regularly vs Ovechkin and Stamkos. Taylor Hall is relatively easy for them, lol.

    Wait.

  73. Lucinius says:

    Oh man, looks like Creepy uncle Lester got a bit of that for his 2nd.

  74. "Steve Smith" says:

    “Petrell will get an assist, because he gave the puck to Hall.”

    Sterling analysis. Just terrific stuff.

  75. Woodguy says:

    Wheeler loves the low percentage wrist shot ala theformercaptainethanmoreau

  76. Woodguy says:

    @shorcov will be on fire after the game with Madman Petrell lighting it up.

  77. hockeyguy10 says:

    I think it would speed up the rebuild if we could spend a
    couple of seasons in the SE div

  78. striatic says:

    Hall .. Belanger? Petrell?

    you really can play anyone with Taylor Hall, i guess.

    wow.

  79. "Steve Smith" says:

    hockeyguy10,

    Have you looked at the Northwest lately?

  80. delooper says:

    If there was any argument whether or not this is Taylor Hall’s team I think his actions over the past few weeks have answered any questions. This is his team.

  81. Lucinius says:

    Yeah, the SE is a joke. Largely because of Washington’s issues (seriously.. now that team, in spite of some fantastic players is in a lot of trouble from a culture/management point of view).

    Hell, being in the East would likely lead to the Oilers having a better record just due to more bad teams and the SE division.

    But Boston would probably break half our players in half.

  82. SK Oiler Fan says:

    great work on wheeler by smid

  83. Lucinius says:

    Steve Smith; yes, the NW is a semi weak division but you do have Vancouver in there and teams the Oilers tend to suck against (Calgary and Minnesota road games…. guaranteed losses for awhile there).

  84. Lucinius says:

    And.. Petrell. Totally a “fuck this” play there.

  85. hockeyguy10 says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Yes. Not as bad as the SE

  86. fuzzy muppet says:

    Love Laddy’s game this year. What’s his next contract worth???

  87. Rebilled says:

    No goal

  88. SK Oiler Fan says:

    You can’t push the goalie into the net with the puck anyway – no goal

  89. hunter1909 says:

    fuzzy muppet:
    Love Laddy’s game this year.What’s his next contract worth???

    Smid gets traded for that puck moving defenceman the team needs.

  90. "Steve Smith" says:

    Jesus, Eberle.

  91. fuzzy muppet says:

    Sick. Just filthy

  92. "Steve Smith" says:

    Sorry, let me try that without the comma: Jesus Eberle. Jesus H. Eberle.

  93. SK Oiler Fan says:

    What hands! – dam I love watching that guy play hockey

  94. Lucinius says:

    Eberle is a god damn maestro on the backhand.

  95. Lowetide says:

    Eberle is a gift, like the Hockey Gods added up the first rounders from the 90s and said “Jeebus, we were kind of hard on tequila Barry back then” and gave us 14.

  96. Rebilled says:

    and the hockey city of Winnipeg hates the hockey city of Edmonton once again.

  97. Woodguy says:

    Hall and Seguin tied in points now this year.

    Hall with 7 less games played.

    Taylor Hall, or as Douchy S. Fox calls him. Ethan Moreau.

  98. Lucinius says:

    Dumb penalty to take from jones. Very Moreau-esque.

  99. Gret99zky says:

    Horcoff…..nevermind.

  100. Woodguy says:

    83 with a great pass, 10 with a wide open net, and I mean really wide open……chunk, chunk.

  101. spoiler says:

    I’d trust Eberle with my life in downtown Baghdad. There is no one I’d rather see with the puck when something needs to get done.

  102. Lucinius says:

    Horcoff, right there proving why Hemsky is never a point per game player.

    How do you mess that up!?

  103. SK Oiler Fan says:

    HorcaFlub – hilarious!

  104. jake70 says:

    Eberle needs to give Hall a tutorial on how to finish close in like that. Hall needs to cut his stick as well. Sick goal.

  105. hockeyguy10 says:

    If Horcoff had a breakaway on the ocean he would miss wide.

  106. Kert says:

    Classic Horcoff on that empty net. Haha, wow.

  107. Bos8 says:

    Woodguy: 83 with a great pass, 10 with a wide open net, and I mean really wide open……chunk, chunk.

    My hockey life flashed before my eyes ….. Flick, flick, flick

    Deja vu all over and over and over

  108. hunter1909 says:

    Great game, too bad oilers aren’t allowed to decline the 2 points though.

    Winnipeg fans treated to yet another dose of oiler’s hockey.

  109. cabbiesmacker says:

    Woodguy:
    Hesmky is a point per game player since signing his extension.

    Probably a 2 pt per game player over his career if he wasn’t playing with a stiff like Horcoff. Nice hands there Shawn. Is that the new Easton Cement you’re using?

  110. SK Oiler Fan says:

    DD played well. Stopped some grade A chances. The grade A chances don’t seem to be a problem for him though.

  111. hockeyguy10 says:

    Flames getting another nail in the coffin tonight.
    3-1 Blues after two.

  112. gogliano says:

    I know the conversation has moved past this but Hall and the late shot/elbow to the glass afterwards endears as much as it bothers. The kid is intense even though they’re fighting for 28th spot. Even with Seguin doing as well as he is doing I’m still happy they took him over Seguin.

  113. Woodguy says:

    4-93-83 looked like they were on another planet for 1/2 the night.

    A few times each of them looked surprised to see the puck on their stick.

    That is a pile of talent to put on the ice at once.

    Will be fun to watch them for the rest of the year, and for at least a year after that.

  114. Woodguy says:

    cabbiesmacker: Probably a 2 pt per game player over his career if he wasn’t playing with a stiff like Horcoff. Nice hands there Shawn. Is that the new Easton Cement you’re using?

    The old joke is that Hemsky’s shoulders gave out because he’s been carrying Horcoff for 8 years.

  115. DSF says:

    Woodguy:
    83 with a great pass, 10 with a wide open net, and I mean really wide open……chunk, chunk.

    Pay the man!

  116. Jordan says:

    Woodguy: The old joke is that Hemsky’s shoulders gave out because he’s been carrying Horcoff for 8 years.

    Epic. Simply wonderful. That play is a microcosm of them playing together.

    Thanks for the great laugh. After Gilbert… I needed that.

  117. DSF says:

    Woodguy:
    Hall and Seguin tied in points now this year.

    Hall with 7 less games played.

    Taylor Hall, or as Douchy S. Fox calls him. Ethan Moreau.

    Of course there is always that pesky +31.

    It’s all Gilbert’s fault!

    Where are the context police?

  118. bill needle says:

    At the game tonight… RNH impressive. He hardly ever has the puck, for the split seconds he has it though, great things happen.

  119. spoiler says:

    DSF: Of course there is always that pesky +31.

    It’s all Gilbert’s fault!

    Where are the context police?

    Sitting here wondering why you still don’t understand the limitations of +/- after all these years.

  120. cabbiesmacker says:

    hockeyguy10:
    Flames getting another nail in the coffin tonight.
    3-1 Blues after two.

    It’s all good though…They got Jackman re-upped. Priorities, priorities.

    Gotta feel for Feaster fielding calls the last few days.

    “Hi Jay it’s “every other GM in the league calling. Lets talk Iginla”
    “I can’t….Ken King says he’s golden and he’s got a NMC”
    “How about Cammalleri?”
    “NTC”
    “Tanguay?”
    “NTC”
    “Jokinen?”
    NTC
    “Glencross?”
    “NMC”…Is this a prank call?”
    “No Jay…how about Moss or Backlund then?”
    “Injured”..(sob)
    “So you have nothing of value at F to trade me Jay?”
    “I could probably get Stajan to wave HIS NTC”
    “Bwaahaahaa…now who’s pranking who?”

    How bout we try for a D then Jay?”
    “Ok” (sound of kleenex box being opened)
    “JBo?”
    “NTC”
    “Giordano?”
    “NMC..then NTC”
    “Sarich?”
    “FULL NMC”
    “Ok Jay…lets make this easier then…Babchuk?”
    “NTC”……(sound of bullets being loaded into revolver)

    “Well Jay I don’t know what to say man. About the only other guy we’d be interested in is Kipper”
    moment of silence
    BANG

  121. Woodguy says:

    DSF: Of course there is always that pesky +31.

    It’s all Gilbert’s fault!

    Where are the context police?

    You murdered them a long time ago.

  122. Woodguy says:

    spoiler: Sitting here wondering why you still don’t understand the limitations of +/- after all these years.

    He does.

    He makes Lucy look like the best holder in the history of football.

  123. bookje says:

    hockeyguy10:
    If Horcoff had a breakaway on the ocean he would miss wide.

    You mean the guy who has one of the highest shootout percentages in the NHL?

  124. Lucinius says:

    Horcoff is fine on breakaways and shootouts because he already has the puck.

    His problem is he cannot take a pass if he’s looking at an empty net.

  125. PunjabiOil says:

    Of course there is always that pesky +31.

    Where are the context police?

    How about the context that Boston is +61 in goal differential, while the Oilers are -17.

    Just acknowledge your sentiment in comparing Hall to Moreau was either:

    1. Absurd
    2. or Trollish behavior.

  126. Gerta Rauss says:

    hockeyguy10: If Horcoff had a breakaway on the ocean he would miss wide.

    I’m convinced they operated on the wrong shoulder. Hemsky must shake his head after chances like that.

    Nice win.Fun game to watch.

  127. spoiler says:

    Re: The Nuge

    2 gp. 1-1-2.

    Still tearing it up.

    2 gp. 2 for 20 on FOs.

    Still torn up.

    That is not good news for the shoulder. Not that he was king of the dot before. But 10%?

    Hall with only 3 recorded shots tonight. Only 3. And the number looks light to my eye.

    Since Christmas, Hemsky has been more physically proactive than I ever remember seeing him before. Signing him was the right thing to do.

  128. striatic says:

    DSF,

    that’s not Tom Gilbert’s fault, it is Zdeno Chara’s fault.

    Tyler Seguin’s +/- should really be thought of as Zdeno Chara’s +/- versus soft opposition.

    not that Seguin isn’t excellent and defensively responsible. as a centre, he is.

    still, Chara.

  129. Lucinius says:

    Well, Calgary lost and we won, so that’s good. Takes the edge off not getting enough for Gilbert.

    Also just realised we just matched our Wins from last year (25) with 20 games to go, and are only 6 points back of where we ended last year.

    Even with the injuries the team seems to be moving in the right direction — even if there are still areas that drive us up the wall and into the ceiling fan.

  130. striatic says:

    cabbiesmacker,

    that was epic.

  131. spoiler says:

    Woodguy: He does.

    He makes Lucy look like the best holder in the history of football.

    Oh he absolutely does. No doubt about it.

    I don’t normally waste my time with him. Gilbert trade must have got to me.

  132. cabbiesmacker says:

    striatic:
    cabbiesmacker,
    that was epic.

    I shouldn’t make jokes at the expense of the handicapped but wth.

    Best part of the game down south was seeing Al MacInnis at his appreciation night…wearing a bag over his head.

    Landeskog with 2 pts tonight. Uh oh. Cmon Ryan Nugent Gretzky.

  133. spoiler says:

    cabbiesmacker: It’s all good though…They got Jackman re-upped. Priorities, priorities.

    Gotta feel for Feaster fielding calls the last few days.

    “Hi Jay it’s “every other GM in the league calling. Lets talk Iginla”
    “I can’t….Ken King says he’s golden and he’s got a NMC”
    “How about Cammalleri?”
    “NTC”
    “Tanguay?”
    “NTC”
    “Jokinen?”
    NTC
    “Glencross?”
    “NMC”…Is this a prank call?”
    “No Jay…how about Moss or Backlund then?”
    “Injured”..(sob)
    “So you have nothing of value at F to trade me Jay?”
    “I could probably get Stajan to wave HIS NTC”
    “Bwaahaahaa…now who’s pranking who?”

    How bout we try for a D then Jay?”
    “Ok”(sound of kleenex box being opened)
    “JBo?”
    “NTC”
    “Giordano?”
    “NMC..then NTC”
    “Sarich?”
    “FULL NMC”
    “Ok Jay…lets make this easier then…Babchuk?”
    “NTC”……(sound of bullets being loaded into revolver)

    “Well Jay I don’t know what to say man. About the only other guy we’d be interested in is Kipper”
    moment of silence
    BANG

    Gold, Jerry, pure gold.

    Cabbie, that was wonderful, thanks.

  134. hunter1909 says:

    Hall officially passes “Snake Bite” Seguin tonight.

  135. DSF says:

    PunjabiOil:
    Of course there is always that pesky +31.


    Where are the context police?

    How about the context that Boston is +61 in goal differential, while the Oilers are -17.

    Just acknowledge your sentiment in comparing Hall to Moreau was either:

    1.Absurd
    2.or Trollish behavior.

    Of course we can excuse Hall from any participation in that dreadful result as it is after all a team stat. :)

    Eberle is somehow +5.

    BTW, Chara is only +22 while Seguin is +31.

    Go figure.

  136. PunjabiOil says:

    DSF: Of course we can excuse Hall from any participation in that dreadful result as it is after all a team stat.

    Eberle is somehow +5.

    BTW, Chara is only +22 while Seguin is +31.

    Go figure.

    What does Seguin have to do with your comparison of Hall to Moreau?

    Hall is even on a team with a -17 goal differential. Not to mention the powerplay being #1 in the league, which makes the even-strength metric look worse.

    Kid is a player – and you still can’t even acknowledge that your comparison to Ethan Moreau was asinine?

  137. striatic says:

    BTW, Chara is only +22 while Seguin is +31.

    Go figure.

    that’s probably because Chara faces tougher opposition than Seguin, but Chara is very often on the ice when Seguin faces soft opposition.

    factor in Rask and Thomas..

    point is that if Seguin faced tougher opposition on a poor defensive team, his +/- would suffer greatly. fortunately for him, this isn’t the case.

  138. Traktor says:

    Petry with 24+ minutes tonight.

  139. Wolfie says:

    I had the pleasure of watching this game live at the MTS Centre. The kids are a treat to watch zip around creating offense.

    Since the Jets have been reborn I’ve shelled out some bucks to split season seats with some friends and family. The rink has been rocking all year and tonight was a little bizarre for me. I’ll always be an Oilers fan to the core but being a Manitoban and loving the fact the Jets are back I feel a responsibility to support the home team.

    So there I was with my nephew wearing my Oilers jersey under my Jets jersey awkwardly cheering every goal, except the Petrell goal (wow was that a bad one). I was really hoping for a Jets win (they need the Ws more than the Oilers do this year). I’m glad they only play once this year.

    It was like the 80s all over again. Gretzky with a couple of points, Kurri with a snipe with the supporting cast chipping in a couple.

  140. striatic says:

    Wolfie:
    I was really hoping for a Jets win (they need the Ws more than the Oilers do this year).

    .. the fact that they are dueling with the Leafs for a playoff spot makes it all the more difficult to cheer against them.

    it is almost like .. in a way .. cheering for the leafs.

    yuck.

  141. spoiler says:

    WHIT FOST
    SMID PETR
    SUTT POTT
    PECK
    UFA DEPTH SIGNING

    Just trying to get my head around the Oil D for the next year.

    My questions are:

    1. Does Schultz in for Gilbert reduce the Goals Against?
    2. Does Schultz in for Gilbert reduce the Goals For?
    3. Will Schultz help you win more hockey games

    From the sounds of it, he’s a guy who hates too lose, who is calm and cool under pressure, does the simple things well. (Don’t mind me, I’m just trying to rationalize things so I can sleep.)

    Is that the kind of guy this defence needed? Yes.

    At the cost of Gilbert? Only if Ryan Whitney can play like his former self AND stay healthy.

    That’s the only way I can see making this bet, Gibby for Schultz, without there being a second piece to the move.

  142. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Cabbiesmacker wins the thread. That was pure gold.

  143. Gerta Rauss says:

    x- Schultz
    Smid-Petry
    Whitney-Potter
    Sutton

    That’s the best we can hope for.
    The good news is that Schultz can play either side so we can target a RH or LH D…whether that’s a UFA signing like Zannon or trade for a Beauchemin/Gleason/Gorges type or the home run like a Suter.

    There has to be another piece coming though…you can’t just swap Gilbert for Schultz and hope that solves all your problems.

  144. bookje says:

    As bad as some of the decisions made by our GMs have been, I am glad that they have been very very limited in their willingness to give out NMCs and NTCs.

  145. OilLeak says:

    cabbiesmacker: It’s all good though…They got Jackman re-upped. Priorities, priorities.

    Gotta feel for Feaster fielding calls the last few days.

    “Hi Jay it’s “every other GM in the league calling. Lets talk Iginla”
    “I can’t….Ken King says he’s golden and he’s got a NMC”
    “How about Cammalleri?”
    “NTC”
    “Tanguay?”
    “NTC”
    “Jokinen?”
    NTC
    “Glencross?”
    “NMC”…Is this a prank call?”
    “No Jay…how about Moss or Backlund then?”
    “Injured”..(sob)
    “So you have nothing of value at F to trade me Jay?”
    “I could probably get Stajan to wave HIS NTC”
    “Bwaahaahaa…now who’s pranking who?”

    How bout we try for a D then Jay?”
    “Ok”(sound of kleenex box being opened)
    “JBo?”
    “NTC”
    “Giordano?”
    “NMC..then NTC”
    “Sarich?”
    “FULL NMC”
    “Ok Jay…lets make this easier then…Babchuk?”
    “NTC”……(sound of bullets being loaded into revolver)

    “Well Jay I don’t know what to say man. About the only other guy we’d be interested in is Kipper”
    moment of silence
    BANG

    I seriously died laughing, absolutely brilliant,

  146. hags9k says:

    That was awesome Cabbiesmacker. Do all those guys really have no trades? Wow are the fLames screwed. I want to hear Fatster run his mouth next year about finishing higher than us.

  147. Lowetide says:

    Cabbie killed it, no dount. Loved when they moved to the defense.

  148. nathan says:

    “Patriotism is the last refuge of the scoundrel!”

    DSF,

    And the first refuge is trolling.

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