Petry’s Progress

Jeff Petry is making some nice progress toward becoming a legit NHL defenseman. It’s such a difficult process and often injury or lack of a veteran partner can send a young defender into the abyss. Petry still has his moments of chaos, but there’s a player there.

Last night the TOI for the defense went like this:

  1. Whitney 23:03
  2. Petry 20:39
  3. Potter 18:51
  4. Barker 17:40
  5. Smid 17:09
  6. Gilbert 16:04

They all seemed to get a turn on the PK and Whitney spent much of the night on the PP, and as it turns out Petry led the group in even strength minutes. Dennis King scoring chances has Petry’s even-strength night at 4-3. Now, we know Gilbert is just coming back and his minutes will increase, but I think you can make a case for Whitney-Petry, Smid-Gilbert as the top 4 in this group.

Meaning Potter, Barker, Sutton and Peckham are also-rans and any of them could probably be had at the deadline. More and more, Jeff Petry is doing the things required to play top 4 NHL minutes in this group. You may say that’s not a big deal on such a bad defensive club, and that’s true.

However, he is showing well by eye and the behind the net stats show:

  • mid-pack zone start
  • #2 Qual Comp
  • #4 Corsi Rel

This is a young player and we should be prepared for setbacks and injuries and locusts and the plague. He does look like a winner from here. Good arrows.

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  1. Chris Hext---formerly EasyOil--- says:

    Life supporting this team would be SO much easier if he does turn out… Watching him play, I can definitely see what KP saw in him.

    LT: do you see him turning into a Whitney-lite, of sorts? Seems to have a lot of the same attributes – skating (pre-injury), passing, calm demeanor. If we can have two Whitneys on the team that would be very nice indeed. And Gilbert and Smid have come along VERY nicely.

  2. mattwatt says:

    If there is any silver lining to play out the schedule, it is this. Petry continually gets better and better, making fewer mistakes while doing some nice things. What I have really noticed of late is his neutural ice play. Been doing a good job of late of making defenders in open space miss on him. That skill was not as prevalent before. Question for you I have Lowetide is that moving forward, how do we want the defense to look?

    Gilbert-Smid
    Petry-Player X
    Whitney-Player Y
    Sutton

    Or something like that. Do not trust Whitney enough that he can play top four minutes, and expecting him to do so next season is dangerous. If we had another top four with Petry, this would alleviate a lot of stress. Also, what type of player do we match with Whitney? Vandermeer-like?

    That said, Petry could drop off the ledge next year and this could all be for not (like you said, Petry is far from complete and this is a risky proposition). But blue skying things, who would you match with Petry next year to complete the top-4 and how would you get said player?

  3. Ducey says:

    100% agreed LT.

    I like Potter too. He doesn’ t get much love (probably due to his -16) but he is leading the D in Rel Corsi while playing third pairing minutes and racking up 17 pts in 40 games (best among D). Considering he is essentially a rookie and his low cap hit, there is real value there and I think he will get even better.

    Heck, his boxcar numbers are comparable to Hemsky’s: 41gp 22pts -15.

  4. Woodguy says:

    Stauffer mentioned Petry’s progress on his show yesterday as well.

    He immediately suggested that Petry can replace Gilbert in a couple years.

    WTF?

    Why is everyone connected with the Oiler allergic to having too many good players?

    God help the Oilers if they ever have 4 actual top 4 Dmen.

    They might make the playoffs!

    The Horror.

    The Horror.

  5. Woodguy says:

    Ducey:
    100% agreed LT.

    I like Potter too.He doesn’ t get much love (probably due to his -16) but he is leading the D in Rel Corsi while playing third pairing minutes and racking up 17 pts in 40 games (best among D).Considering he is essentially a rookie and his low cap hit, there is real value there and I think he will get even better.

    Heck, his boxcar numbers are comparable to Hemsky’s: 41gp 22pts -15.

    At some point in his life Potter put a crayon up his nose and it destroyed the part of his brain that allows him to remember how to play a 2 on 1.

    He never takes away the shooter or the pass.

    Steve Smith needs to work with him on that.

    I’d be good with Sutton or a Sutton type with Potter on the 3rd pairing.

    Potter’s been playing above his established level of play for a lot of the year (Getting slotted above your ability on the Oilers? The hell you say!), but as a 3rd pairing guy with a proper partner (read:not Barker) he shouldn’t drown.

  6. mattwatt says:

    mattwatt,

    I forgot about Potter, in my dumbass moment of the day. Him and Whitney would make up bottom pairing, which I am okay with.

  7. mattwatt says:

    Woodguy,

    The more I hear of Stauffer, the less I respect what he says. His remarks contradict what it takes to win hockey games. Embarrassing really, but then again I don’t get paid by the organization to talk about him glowingly.

  8. Clay says:

    All 6 D had PK time, except Barker (0:01). I’m sure this has been pointed out already in the GDT, but Barker also had the least amount of EV time (12:44), yet managed to be on the ice for all 3 EV goals against.

    What is with this team, and their loyalty to this guy? Sutton was looking pretty decent over the last stretch of wins – he’s definitely getting the muddy end of the stick right now.

  9. Captain Obvious says:

    The difficult thing is figuring out whether Bob Stauffer is dumber than Dan Tencer or if Dan Tencer is dumber than Bob Stauffer. They are both automatons without the capability for thought. I think the deciding question would be which one makes the listener dumber through proximity and exposure. However, by that standard Spector is the dumbest. It’s a hard question and worthy of an entire thread.

    I disagree with Jason Gregor all the time. But I think if I got him in the classroom he’d be capable of learning something. When he sounds dumb it’s because he spends too much time around other media guys. Brownlee is obstinate and arrogant, and that gets in the way of his ability to think. But if he wasn’t, he might be capable of learning too. However, Stauffer and Tencer. I wonder if they can even read. You could sit them down in a classroom for a million years and they would leave unchanged. They are incapable of thought.

  10. Captain Obvious says:

    There is a good little thread at Dellow’s place on Hemsky and Stauffer’s idiocy. It also has Godot beating a dead horse. It also has Willis saying what he really thinks which is fun. His ON pieces crack me up because he pulls so many punches.

    http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=4295

  11. TheOtherJohn says:

    WG

    Heard the Petry replace Gilbert line on Stauffer and thought exactly that: WTF!!

    If Stauffer is a window into the Oiler management group thinking: ie replace a real solid top 4 D with kids who may grow into the job is unique. To paraphrase Steve Smith “unique” may not mean what you think it means. Here “unique” should read “stupid”

    That in a nutshell is why Lowe and Tambellini should not be allowed to rebuild a perennial SCF competing squad. Because they are not remotely capable of doing it.Forgot they keep telling us they have a Plan all evidence to the contrary

  12. Captain Obvious says:

    What so crazy about it is the media actually seems to believe that you can win with three or four good players if they are surrounded by the right “role” players. They’ve fetishized the role player to such a degree that they actually think role players are important. My biggest objection to this management group isn’t any individual move, it is that they don’t understand that talent trumps everything.

    Instead they fixate on preposterous notions like you can only have too many of the same kind of player and then get rid of those players for nothing without ever realizing that the problem this team faces is a lack of talent.

    They need to learn that:

    1) There is no such thing as a top six forward. There are only good players and bad players.
    2) You can never have too many good players.
    3) If Linus Omark is on your fourth line that is a good problem to have so long as the nine guys ahead of him aren’t named Ben Eager or Lennert Petrell or other useless players.
    4).Players like Lennert Petrell make your team worse. It doesn’t matter what role you put them in. If Lennert Petrell is on the ice your are trying to lose.
    5). Players like Darcy Hordichuk make players like Petrell look good. Stop wasting roster spaces on players that make us worse.
    6) Cam Barker is an abomination. Surely that is obvious to everyone now.
    7) etc. etc.

  13. Traktor says:

    Captain Obvious:
    There is a good little thread at Dellow’s place on Hemsky and Stauffer’s idiocy.It also has Godot beating a dead horse.It also has Willis saying what he really thinks which is fun.His ON pieces crack me up because he pulls so many punches.

    http://www.mc79hockey.com/?p=4295

    David Krejci
    Patrik Elias
    Martin Hanzal
    Tomas Plekanec
    Zbynek Michalek

    Honerable mention to Erat and Vrbata.

    That was pretty easy.

  14. OilClog says:

    Barker had that real gritty game a week back where it looked like he might make everyone eat their words, then I guess whatever he was on wore off and he’s back to being a upside down pylon ran over a few times going down the yellowhead. Maybe we can ship him to philly for a winter classic jersey.

    Potter and Whitney on the same pairing is awful, I love that whitney is trying his damnest out there, but it’s clear he’s a liabilty at the moment. He needs to be playing with someone that can offset the speed factor, Potter is not that guy. Since he’s come back from injury it looks like he’s reverted back to the player that couldn’t stick in the bigs. They should send him down and let him try to dominate from the back end in the minors. Why is Sutton sitting in the box?!?!?! The hitting, the out of nowhere dangles, the guy comes to play and he’s sitting.. just another sign of how incapable our coaching system is. If the worst road record in the league isn’t enough of an example.

    There’s only one reason we can’t win on the road, it’s because every single game we’re being out coached. Last night Babcock was ripping into his team when we tied it, Renney was having a green tea and preparing his speech.. ” you know, we’re a young group of guys, bumps in the road happen, we’re here to help ease the pain of those and get these young men through it” .. For freaking shits and giggles can we not have a coach with a pulse and a desire to inflick victories upon the opposition. Sick and tired of watching everyone do it to us. The winning week was great, but it had no reason to do with the coaching.

  15. mattwatt says:

    Traktor,

    Can’t get into because I am at work, but on that list above, Hemsky is their statistical superior or peer. So thanks for confirming what we already know.

    That Hemsky is possibly/likely a top 5 Czech player in the NHL, and definitely in the top 10 of said nation.

  16. OilClog says:

    Resign Hemsky, bring Penner back to play with him, when the kids come up to their new contracts, approach Horcoff and give him two options.. restructured contract, or pushing daisies in the minors. He’s the captain and his magical eye has to see that the writing is on the wall, you can be our Kris Draper, and retire a pro.. or you can be Wade Redden. HARSHHHHH If there is a buyout period for the next CBA will they be smart enough to buy him out? Or will they beat the loyal dog some more?

  17. misfit says:

    Petry is complete chaos, but he can be effective in a top 4 role and his best hockey is still ahead of him. I have him in the top 4 right now because our depth at RD makes it so. I’d have no problem with him staying there if we go out and get the best LD we can in the offseason. Either way, we desperately need to bring in a top 4 (preferably top pairing) defenseman.

    Let’s just hope we don’t end up with AJ Thelen, Boris Valabik, Brian Lee, or anyone else who’s only positive on his resume is that he was once taken high in the first round of the draft.

  18. Traktor says:

    mattwatt:

    Hemsky ranks 15th in points per game this year. I didn’t listen to Stuaffer’s interview but Hemsky certainly isn’t playing like a top 5 Czech this season.

    Maybe he will next year (for 40 games).

  19. Woodguy says:

    Traktor: David Krejci
    Patrik Elias
    Martin Hanzal
    Tomas Plekanec
    Zbynek Michalek

    Honerable mention to Erat and Vrbata.

    That was pretty easy.

    No love for Havlat?

  20. Woodguy says:

    Traktor: David Krejci
    Patrik Elias
    Martin Hanzal
    Tomas Plekanec
    Zbynek Michalek

    Honerable mention to Erat and Vrbata.

    That was pretty easy.

    Not a bad list.

    I don’t like Plekanec over Hemsky, but do like the others.

    Elias is old, but still good. 1pt/gm this year at 35.

    If Hemsky’s should is actually repaired (Oilers should know better than anyone), he might score until he’s 35 too.

  21. mattwatt says:

    Woodguy: Not a bad list.I don’t like Plekanec over Hemsky, but do like the others.Elias is old, but still good. 1pt/gm this year at 35.If Hemsky’s should is actually repaired (Oilers should know better than anyone), he might score until he’s 35 too.

    Traktor,

    I agree, Hemsky’s injury are a concern. As such, taking a flyer on him for more than a year is a risky proposition. Why not sign him for a year to see how he does. Prior to his current injured status, he was performing consitently well for 60-70+ plus games a year on porous teams. I would take that if that is the Hemsky the Oilers would get.

    I guess my question then is Traktor, if not Hemsky then who? And how? I am willing to admit their are options out there, I just have yet to see one that is comparable.

  22. Esa10 says:

    I think we should start banging the drum on Barret Jackman. He would be more affordable then, say, a Suter type and would be a steady partner for Petry. Also, I love the idea of running 8 d-men next year; way more then paying hordichuk to sit in the press box.

    Next season:

    Jackman Petry
    Smid Gilbert
    Whitney Potter
    Sutton Peckham

  23. VOR says:

    It is actually quite easy to find a reasonable comparable for Ales Hemsky (an often injured right winger capable of putting up good to excellent offense for around a thousand minutes a season). That would be Justin Willams in Los Angeles. His cap hit is $3,650,000. Hemsky is arguably better in terms of points per game and per 60 minutes but slightly more fragile. So reasonably because he is two years younger and around 23% better but more fragile lets say we inflate that by 20% which gives us $4.38 a year as fair value for Hemsky. So you could do something like the ridiculous Ville Lieno contract and go 6M,6M,5M,5M,4M,4M,3M,3M and two years no trade and two more of partial no trade. Cap Hit $4.5. You could, I gather, throw in a signing bonus of $4M more and the true value to Hemsky is $5,000,000 a year. Would he sign? Probably. Would he be killing your cap? No. Reasonable expectation – 60 games 1000 minutes 15G 27A 42 Pts. In other words roughly Drew Stafford totals who earns $4,000,000 so possibly a slight over pay but not by much. If Hemsky plays more then it is a bargain, if he plays less he is likely to be on LTIR in any case.

  24. Traktor says:

    mattwatt:

    I don’t think signing Hemsky for 1 year at 6M is a bad option, I just don’t see it as realistic.

    Agents aren’t dumb and if Hemsky signs for 1 year and gets injured again or has another poor offensive season he is going to take a huge hit financially. Plus when Hemsky was asked about signing in Edmonton last week he said “it depends on term and stuff”.

    Ville Leino signed for 6 years at 4.5M per last summer and he only had 1 NHL season with more than 15 points. 5.5 x 5 seems pretty reasonable for Hemsky considering his established level of play.

    I’ll be the first to admit that replacing Hemsky’s potential (70 points) is unlikely but we’ll still have 3 stars in RNH, Hall and Eberle.

    St Louis is one of the top teams in the league this year and they don’t have a single player projected to hit 60 points this season but they have a lot of big forwards that play physical hockey. That is something this team is missing IMO.

  25. mattwatt says:

    Traktor,

    I thought I heard rumblings of Hemsky asking for a 1-year deal, but I can’t confirm anything.

    What you are saying makes sense Traktor, and I agree agents jobs are to maximize their clients value. 1-year deal on Hemsky’s part is probably not the best of ideas, likely that their are teams out their willing to give him 2-3 years even with his health. Leino’s deal was crazy, feel it was the new owner wanting to show others “I am here to win!” without thinking of the cost of some the contracts he signed.

    My only concern is with the stars, Oilers still need the depth behind them. Keeping Hemsky helps alleviate that problem. Expecting these guys to carry the Oilers to the promiseland is a risky proposition if you solely rely on them. More good players the better. Feel that Oilers would disagree with me on this part though.

    As for grit, I agree it would be nice to have more of. Oilers could use some sandpaper to play in the top 6. It is just that everyone wants it, and it is not necessary for a teams success (ex: Detroit does not necessarily overpower you, just all good players. Open for interpretation with how you view Bertuzzi’s role).

    I too do like some of the forwards on St. Louis roster. However, other thing though in their favor is defence and goaltending. SV% for both netminders are:
    – Halak: .922
    – Elliot: .939
    With that caliber of backstopping you are going to win a lot of games, similar to the Oilers run at the start of the season. Also, their defence is stout with good players throughout, imo. What St. Louis has going for them is something (goaltending and defense) that the Oilers sorely Edmonton need.

    Asking this management group to find these answers is risky in the least.

  26. jfry says:

    rocky thompson was being interviewed down here in Calgary, to drum up some press for tonight’s Barons vs. Heat game. He said that the organization viewed Plante and Cornet as being in the NHL within two years, which was a big change from last year when everyone within MGT viewed them as being on the outs.

    for what it’s worth

    anyone else in calgary going to tonight’s game? club seats are super cheap. 9th row for 18 bucks!

  27. Captain Obvious says:

    Plante and Cornet will never be regular NHL players. Not even close.

    Another problem to face is the interpretation that we have three young stars. Until they consistently beat top competition they are good players who can score but they aren’t stars. Hall and Eberle might be close to being stars but Hopkins is a ways behind them, in my view.

    In any case their production is dependent upon other guys sucking up all the top minutes. Losing Hemsky isn’t only losing his production (or possible production) it is also going to trickle through the lineup unless he is replaced. Since we know he won’t be replaced look for fallbacks from Eberle and Hopkins next year.

    I mean seriously, Eberle is one of the top scorers in the league this year. However, his shooting percentage is around 20% and he’s played most of the year in a sheltered position. If he plays tougher competition next year he’s going to have to improve a lot just to stay the same.

  28. jfry says:

    Captain Obvious:
    Plante and Cornet will never be regular NHL players.Not even close.

    just repeating what the assistant coach said, but you’d know better.

  29. Captain Obvious says:

    jfry: just repeating what the assistant coach said, but you’d know better.

    First, never believe what a coach says about his own player. Second, if the coach does believe this then he has no idea what he’s talking about. Cornet has about as much chance of being an NHL regular as I do.

  30. Traktor says:

    Captain Obvious: First, never believe what a coach says about his own player.

    But we should believe a random like yourself?

    Cornet has about as much chance of being an NHL regular as I do.

    Which professional hockey team do you play for?

  31. commonfan14 says:

    Hemsky has scored between 60-70 points 3 times in his career, and not once in the last 3 years. He has had 2 good seasons during his 6-year deal, and neither of them were as productive as his season before he re-signed. The idea that he deserves and should expect a raise makes little sense to me.

    I also have trouble seeing how the one year, $6 million deal scenario would work. Even forgetting that he’d be getting a hefty raise coming off 3 of the worst seasons of his career (and please save the 5×5 pts/60 citations – I’m aware of them and they don’t matter. If you’re not on the ice, it counts as bad no matter what your arrows were), what happens if he’s magically healthier and nets 60 points next year? Another raise?

    Do they really just hit him with a, “No, no – that was a one-year overpay. Now we get to sign you long-term for less” argument?

  32. wuthering says:

    Petry is certainly turning into a beauty. He is a great-to-terrific skater and his gap-control and reads have improved steadily. As he learns to get his shot through traffic, and on net, his boxcars will also improve. Perhaps he needs a raspier voice though. Of course this could be easily solved by getting punched in the throat by Sergio Momesso.

  33. misfit says:

    Petry is a physical player in terms of hitting, but he really needs to get stronger, IMO. He definitely doesn’t shy away from playing the body and laying out a bodycheck but he seems to get outmuscled a lot in the corners especially against bigger, physical wingers.

    That’s one thing I’ve been noticing a lot lately.

  34. cabbiesmacker says:

    I jumped the gun a little prior to this season and predicted Petry would be the second best Dman we have, after Gilbert, by the end of the year. Mid to end of next season might be more realistic but the arrows are pointing in the right direction.

    With all thats been said about Ales I think the writing is on the wall. The Oilers have backed themselves into a corner by leaving it this late and if the rumours re their non-communication are correct. He has to be gone by the deadline. Losing him for nothing is the worst possible scenario no matter what we all think he should fetch in return. I like the guy enough but I am increasingly resigned to him leaving.

    Sutton has to be a part of trade talks. There is no other reason for him not to be in the lineup. Even the Oilers aren’t that stupid…..they can’t be. Actually, maybe they are because even Twobears and Teddy seem like better options than Barker right now. I really wanted to see the guy clean up his act and improve but it’s pretty obvious he just does not have the head for it. You can learn to play D without being Kurt Browning in the skating dept. but smarts can’t be taught.

    Shame about StoveTop becoming such an Oiler shill. He used to be about the only guy in town willing to take management to task. Now he’s just a tub of goo mouthpiece in charge of management prostrate exams.

  35. cabbiesmacker says:

    misfit:
    Petry is a physical player in terms of hitting, but he really needs to get stronger, IMO.He definitely doesn’t shy away from playing the body and laying out a bodycheck but he seems to get outmuscled a lot in the corners especially against bigger, physical wingers.

    That’s one thing I’ve been noticing a lot lately.

    In other words Misfit he’s almost a clone of Gilbert in his first couple of years. I’ve seen Tommy Boy as a lot more physical this year and Petry will be even moreso in time. It’s an NCAA trait I think. Both are a really nice combination of two way players.

  36. Captain Obvious says:

    If Hemsky must go I spend his money on Penner and Ryan Shannon as free agents and I try and trade for Vladimir Sobotka first, and failing that Mason Raymond. Those are four players that I think would be available and undervalued. Depending upon atmosphere I’d also try and steal Kadri from Toronto. They seem to be turning against him irrationally.

    I’d also think about trading for RJ Umberger (bad contract but a better player than his numbers) as a salary dump if I could get a good young defenseman to come along with him.

    In any case if Hemsky is traded this roster needs to be turned over, and quickly.

  37. godot10 says:

    mattwatt:
    Traktor,

    My only concern is with the stars, Oilers still need the depth behind them. Keeping Hemsky helps alleviate that problem. Expecting these guys to carry the Oilers to the promiseland is a risky proposition if you solely rely on them. More good players the better. Feel that Oilers would disagree with me on this part though.

    Hemsky has offered no “protection” for Nugent-Hopkins on the road this year. So what are the Oilers supposed to be paying for. Hemsky’s job is to attract the top D and the top checkers on the road, and he has failed miserably at his job. The opposition is treating him as “washed up”, so past performance is irrelevant. He is no longer the player he was.

    I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. 1 year, $6 million.

    But if he turns that down before the deadline, the right thing to do is trade him.

  38. russ99 says:

    Either Hemsky has to go or the coaches have to go… probably both.

    Look at it. His whole career the guy has been allowed to play with the puck, dangle, not get back on defense and whatever he wants in the offensive and neutral zones.

    Now he’s stuck with a defense first hardcore-systems coach who loves to dump and chase, he’s been shuttled in and out of lines, and while his shoulder could be a cause of his lower numbers this year, I’m going with “RenneySystem 2011-12″ as the real reason.

    As for Barker, there’s only one reason, they’re willing to give him a long look while they “Fail for Nail”.

    The “Fail for Nail” plan certainly includes some nice home wins to keep the fan uproar in check.

  39. LMHF#1 says:

    russ99:
    Either Hemsky has to go or the coaches have to go… probably both.

    Look at it. His whole career the guy has been allowed to play with the puck, dangle, not get back on defense and whatever he wants in the offensive and neutral zones.

    Now he’s stuck with a defense first hardcore-systems coach who loves to dump and chase, he’s been shuttled in and out of lines, and while his shoulder could be a cause of his lower numbers this year, I’m going with “RenneySystem 2011-12″ as the real reason.

    I needed a good gut-busting laugh to end the work day. Thank you for the hilarity.

  40. commonfan14 says:

    cabbiesmacker: Losing him for nothing is the worst possible scenario no matter what we all think he should fetch in return.

    I’d say that signing him for $5+ million per for 5 years and then watching him play 30-40 games per year at a drastically reduced level of production would be far worse than freeing up $4.1 million of cap space.

  41. godot10 says:

    cabbiesmacker:

    With all thats been said about Ales I think the writing is on the wall. The Oilers have backed themselves into a corner by leaving it this late and if the rumours re their non-communication are correct. He has to be gone by the deadline. Losing him for nothing is the worst possible scenario no matter what we all think he should fetch in return. I like the guy enough but I am increasingly resigned to him leaving.

    The worst possible scenario is NOT losing him for nothing. The worst possible scenario is signing Hemsky to a three year or longer contract for over $5 million, and him being injured, which uses up all the 10% cap cushion during the summer, leaving no cushion to protect yourself against own offer sheet for Eberle, Hall, or Nugent-Hopkins. i.e. Signing Hemsky to a big contract leaves the Oilers vulnerable to offer sheets.

    There is NO LTIR during the summer. There is only LTIR during the season.

  42. Woodguy says:

    godot10,

    Hemsky has offered no “protection” for Nugent-Hopkins on the road this year. So what are the Oilers supposed to be paying for. Hemsky’s job is to attract the top D and the top checkers on the road, and he has failed miserably at his job. The opposition is treating him as “washed up”, so past performance is irrelevant. He is no longer the player he was.

    You couldn’t be more wrong.

    What other things do you just pull out of thin air?

    I checked almost every game, and up until the Chicago 8 point game, Hemsky drew top pairing defenders almost very night.

    You didn’t look did you?

  43. rickithebear says:

    woodguy: There is all this defending of hemsky. But his do not give a sh…. attitude was eating at me. Who does he remind me of. It just hit me. You are defending Robert Nilsson.

  44. Captain Obvious says:

    Woodguy:
    godot10,

    Hemsky has offered no “protection” for Nugent-Hopkins on the road this year. So what are the Oilers supposed to be paying for. Hemsky’s job is to attract the top D and the top checkers on the road, and he has failed miserably at his job. The opposition is treating him as “washed up”, so past performance is irrelevant. He is no longer the player he was.

    You couldn’t be more wrong.

    What other things do you just pull out of thin air?

    I checked almost every game, and up until the Chicago 8 point game, Hemsky drew top pairing defenders almost very night.

    You didn’t look did you?

    Quoted for truth. It’s one thing to be wrong. It’s quite another to be willfully blind. Hemsky has one of the worst (best) quality of comps in the entire league. He is literally playing at another level of hockey than Nugent-Hopkins.

  45. Woodguy says:

    rickithebear:
    woodguy: There is all this defending ofhemsky.But his do not give a sh…. attitude was eating at me. Who does he remind me of. It just hit me. You are defending Robert Nilsson.

    I made a habit of looking at head to head match ups after every game in Oct.

    What Godot said is quite simply wrong.

    He needs to be called out for it. Its not more Hemsky apologist stuff, it what is true and what is false.

    Also,

    Hemsky = Nilsson?

    Did you just start watching Oilers this year?

    He’s having a tough year, but to say Hemsky = Nilsson makes you sound brainwashed.

  46. Dipstick says:

    I am willing to give Hemsky a bit of a break. I wonder how much his propensity to dangle without purpose is due to his career being spent with linemates who were less than stellar and often having no other options. That being stated, the time has come to put up the numbers or move on. I expect him to move on. He may be able to be effective in another environment, but he will have to change aspects of his game to do that.

  47. "Steve Smith" says:

    OilClog: approach Horcoff and give him two options.. restructured contract, or pushing daisies in the minors.

    Under which CBA would these options be presented?

  48. bookje says:

    Petry looks to be improving quickly – I look forward to seeing Oiler fans boo him out of town in 3 years.

  49. wuthering says:

    bookje:
    Petry looks to be improving quickly – I look forward to seeing Oiler fans boo him out of town in 3 years.

    only if he leaves practice early

  50. rickithebear says:

    Sadly wood guy I lost a post from this afternoon:
    A little more in depth, but the key point.

    This is hemsky’s ninth season. He is on pace for 36P. Of the 9 Seasons 5 will be 43P or less, 1 50P season, 1 60P, 2 70P.

    I laughed real loud reading Tracktor say potential 70P player. That is brainwashed.

    He averaged 37P 6 of the 9 seasons. 37P ranks around the 160th best scoring forward. Bottom 2nd line. 5M, 6M? Is this HF Boards?

    Back to the bad Boyfriend girl. Mom dad he can score 70P. LOL.

  51. tubes says:

    I’m half a day late but what’s with all the hate for Stauffer by certain godlike members on here??

    It’s one thing to hate Dan Tencer because he’s cocky and an utter asshole to callers, but Stauffer can take a joke, admits when he’s wrong (sometimes), makes fun of himself AND knows a fair deal about hockey and more than anyone here about the Oilers. Whether our egos can admit it or not, the man knows hockey.

    With regards to his “Petry could potentially replace Gilbert” comment – yeah it was ridiculous, but if you think about it, 25% or so of our prospect dmen should develop into regulars and than there is room to move someone. I don’t think they should but this is years down the line.

    Captain Obvious: Plante and Cornet never being regular NHLer’s? Not even close? Who do you think you are? The only obvious thing I can see, is that you aren’t a scout and a skeptic at best.

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