Oklahoma!

The OKC Barons are on a run, and best of all some of the major players are Oiler prospects.

The OKC scorers this playoff feature some actual prospects:

Rookies Pitlick, Tremblay and Lander are doing well, and young vets Hartikainen and Paajarvi are also contributing this spring. Chris VandeVelde has scored twice in OT for the Barons in their current series against San Antonio.

Should the Barons win that series, they’ll face Toronto. That might mean some television coverage. I’m reading some impressive things about Pitlick these days, would love to see a few games.

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  1. Chris Hext---formerly EasyOil--- says:

    Hopefully Pitlick keeps it up and into next season. Having a fully developed Pitlick and Hartikainen on the wings in EDM down the road would be great.

  2. Henry says:

    Chris Hext—formerly EasyOil—,

    Yeah, those two guys have a good shot. I’ve only seen him three times, but I ‘saw Tremblay as good’. Plays smart positionally and can chip in with offense. May not be as big as Pisani, but I like the same things about Tremblay that I did with Fernando. Would love to see him get a cup of coffee in the show.

  3. Chris Hext---formerly EasyOil--- says:

    Henry,

    It’s gonna be interesting to see which players in OKC are kept in the organisation, given the precarious contract numbers situation. I’ve gotta think that House might be cut loose, despite some pretty good reports about him, given that the reports for Tremblay have been really, really glowing. Man it would be nice to have Fernando Mk.II on the team. What a beauty. Vandevelde seems to be showing well too.

  4. Woodguy says:

    Oiler prospects showing some promise?

    Unpossible.

    They were not drafted by Tallon or Gillis.

  5. Chris Hext---formerly EasyOil--- says:

    Woodguy,

    Well every single Oiler prospect was a 1st Overall Draft Pick, so were just obvious decisions which were a result of tanking. Being an Oilers fan, that means I too was a 1st Overall Draft Pick.

  6. Jesse says:

    I realize this has already been discussed at great length, but more evidence that there’s a good chance Murray goes 1st OV:
    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/05/11/oilers-hockey-boss-kevin-lowe-on-prospect-ryan-murray-hes-the-top-player/

    When asked what was most impressive about Murray, Lowe responded:
    “His poise. There’s actually a whole checklist of things. His skating. The way he defends, passes the puck, but just overall the poise.”

    Do they have this friggin word on a plaque in the dressing room or something?? I thought it was just ST who overused it, but jeez.

  7. bookje says:

    I blame Kevin Lowe and Steve Tambellini for this!

  8. slopitch says:

    How are the d doing? Anyone ready to pass potter, Peckham or sutton?

  9. bookje says:

    Jesse:
    I realize this has already been discussed at great length, but more evidence that there’s a good chance Murray goes 1st OV:
    http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2012/05/11/oilers-hockey-boss-kevin-lowe-on-prospect-ryan-murray-hes-the-top-player/

    When asked what was most impressive about Murray, Lowe responded:
    “His poise. There’s actually a whole checklist of things. His skating. The way he defends, passes the puck, but just overall the poise.”

    Do they have this friggin word on a plaque in the dressing room or something?? I thought it was just ST who overused it, but jeez.

    So if the Oilers are drafting Nail, they should not discuss other prospects???

  10. Ribs says:

    I guess it’s a good thing Adam Larsson isn’t Canadian. Lots of poise there.

  11. Ribs says:

    VandeVelde getting his Pisani on. I blame MacT for making me like hard working pluggers.

  12. godot10 says:

    We’re “poised” for company out here on Murray Island.

  13. Gerta Rauss says:

    I miss the usual photo that accompanies these OKC posts…for a couple of reasons.

  14. Henry says:

    slopitch:
    How are the d doing? Anyone ready to pass potter, Peckham or sutton?

    slopitch,

    Teubert has pretty much everything he needs to make the jump…except maybe the poise.

  15. DSF says:

    Woodguy:
    Oiler prospects showing some promise?

    Unpossible.

    They were not drafted by Tallon or Gillis.

    Of course, while Tambellini waits on his prospects, Tallon and Gillis realize that you can find real NHL players in the bargain bin and go out and sign Bergenheim and Higgins.

    It’s nice when one of your prospects develops well and exceeds expectations, but it’s hardly necessary to wait for them to ripen before building a competitive team.

  16. commonfan14 says:

    Jesse: When asked what was most impressive about Murray, Lowe responded:
    “His poise. There’s actually a whole checklist of things. His skating. The way he defends, passes the puck, but just overall the poise.”

    Maybe Yakupov should hire Cosmo Kramer as his personal coach for the combine.

  17. VOR says:

    All the praise for Murray could of course be an attempt at pump and dump.

    Lets say the Oilers have somebody they want from Columbus. Perhaps they know Columbus wants no part of another Russian to begin with but aren’t sold enough on Murray to give up what the Oilers want to flip picks. The more certain Columbus is that Murray is great and the Oilers are going to take him the higher the price the Oilers can ask to trade down.

    It might not only be Columbus that Oilers management are trying to up the ask price with. By all accounts the Islanders really want Murray and as things stand would likely get him all things being equal. But not if the Oilers either a) take Murray themselves or b) make him sound so great that either Columbus or Montreal take him.

    I think it is worth noting that in the previous two cases where the Oilers had 1OV while they were cagey they didn’t spend all this time talking a guy up. Maybe they are just trying to win over the fan base. On the other hand maybe they are smart enough to increase the options for trade partners for the pick and to raise the ask price. Perhaps the opportunity to take Yakupov just isn’t moving other GMs. Columbus has has problems with Russians, Montreal and New York Islanders are both too small up front as is. Could be that talking up Murray creates better trade options.

  18. bendelson says:

    VOR,

    Maybe they are just trying to win over the fan base.

    Nailed it

    The rest of your post is interesting but….
    I’m not sure you have to go any further than your above comment.

  19. "Steve Smith" says:

    Hey, it’s Bendelson! I hate that guy!

  20. Jesse says:

    bookje,

    I was simply making fun of how all of Oilers management comments on how “poised” players are.

  21. Gerta Rauss says:

    OKLA……..HOMA…..!!!…:)

  22. Dipstick says:

    Gerta Rauss:
    I miss the usual photo that accompanies these OKC posts…for a couple of reasons.

    I agree with you on both points! I just refreshed and voila!

  23. Jesse says:

    VOR,

    Hmmm, I actually hadn’t thought of that. That’s interesting. I wonder if ST and Kevin Lowe are smart enough to do that with Murray. They sure didnt think to do it with Omark.

  24. Bar_Qu says:

    Oklahoma must mean something different than what I thought it means. A couple of things…

  25. fuzzy muppet says:

    Am I the only one concerned with this management group’s possible attempts to outsmart everyone?

  26. TheOtherJohn says:

    Great to see Pitlick have a strong playoff. Love to have a big body that can skate/hit on our 4th line. Ditto the Finn (less the skating). Wish we had TOI # to realize who was playing how much. Oilers would do themselves a huge favor to have Lander play 60 games in AHL next year

    I have no difficulty with the Oilers kicking tires of Ryan Murray KLowe comment about him being NHL ready seems a little strange with Murray playing 8 minutes a game but he is, after ll, an NHL GM, er Prez of hockey operations. He must know what he’s doing

    If Oil talking a later flyer I would look at Reilly or Forsberg not Murray

  27. nathan says:

    Am I the only one concerned with this management group’s possible attempts to outsmart everyone?

    fuzzy muppet,

    No.

    On the Spector Show today there was talk of an unnamed scout whose team would take Murray over Yakupov. Then again same scout would take Seth Jones over Nathan MacKinnon.

    Let’s not overthink this one.

    One step at a time. Don’t sweat what you’ll do if you ever need to trade for balance. If Avs can win a cup from the assets of trading ALL their first picks, you can do the right thing at the right time for a less risky chance than an 18 year old D.

  28. bendelson says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Another brilliant post from beautiful mind of Steve Smith.
    Atta boy!

  29. Ducey says:

    Alright, I know I stomped off in a huff, but I can’t resist the double doubles and urge to respond to DSF. Plus I miss you guys :)

    Of course, while Tambellini waits on his prospects, Tallon and Gillis realize that you can find real NHL players in the bargain bin and go out and sign Bergenheim and Higgins.

    Gillis can’t watch his propects because he doesn’t have any. The Canucks drafting has been terrible.

    Since 2005 they have produced:
    2005 Mason Raymond
    2006 Grabner (traded him away and he had one good year and then droppped back to earth)
    2007 All Busts (I chose that term intentionally)
    2008 Cody Hodgson (mishandled even after he left)
    2009 All Busts
    2010 All Busts
    2011 Too early to tell but top pick Jenson didn’t take a step forward this year in the OHL and was lapped by the Oilers 5th rounder Rieder.

    HF has VCR as having the 29th best list of prospects. Edmonton is 4th.

    Gillis has no choice but to scrounge for scraps.

  30. Marc says:

    Last year Brownlee interviewed Stu about each of the top rated players before the draft. Stu gave a brief projection for each player:

    Landeskog
    Projection: “He’s going to be a third-line player who could be a good second-line player.”
    Best Case Scenario: “A second-line player who plays in all key situations for you.”
    Concerns: “He’s got to become a better skater.”

    Huberdeau
    Projection: “A very solid second-line player. It depends where he plays. He plays wing now, but he played centre when he first came into the league. What will he be in the NHL? He could be a centre.”
    Best Case Scenario: “He could be a first-line player.”
    Concerns: “He’s only 170 pounds. He needs to get stronger to be able to take his game forward and be able to play in the areas that he likes to play in, which is in and around the net.”

    Couturier
    Projection: “I think he could be a first-line centre.”
    Best Case Scenario: “A good first-line centre.”
    Concerns: “He has to get quicker, speed-wise.”

    Larsson
    Projection: “A one or a two. Probably a two.”
    Best Case Scenario: “His most potential? Possibly a one.”
    Concerns: “He’s a good skater but he’s not a great skater. His offence is only OK at this point.”

    RNH
    Projection: “A first-line centre.”
    Best Case Scenario: “Very good first-line centre.”
    Concerns: “I don’t think it’s size. It’s physical strength.”

    Now that was a tip to what the Oilers were thinking – they didn’t project Huberdeau or Landeskog as first line players, thought Couturier might be a first line center, Larsson would be a number 2 D and thought RNH was a sure top line center and possibly a very good one. Based on that you would guess they’d pick RNH – his low-end projection is arguably more valuable than any of the other four players’ best case scenario and his weakness is something that can be fixed by growing older and going to the gym. Sure enough, they took RNH.

    When (if) we get something like this from the Oilers about this year’s class we’ll have a tip about their intentions at the draft. Until then it’s just wind – not worthgetting excited about.

  31. Lowetide says:

    Welcome back Ducey! Don’t let Bendelman get you down!!!! GREAT WORK STEVE SMITH!!!!!

  32. spoiler says:

    So these OKC prospects will be ready Sooner rather than later?

    ;op
    Sorry, somebody had to go there.

  33. Gerta Rauss says:

    2007 All Busts (I chose that term intentionally)

    Ha!!

  34. bendelson says:

    Lowetide,

    To quote Omark: ?????????????????????????

  35. Lowetide says:

    bendelson:
    Lowetide,

    To quote Omark:?????????????????????????

    Just kidding. :-) I thought you won the thread the other day with your “stay below the event horizon” post.

  36. bendelson says:

    Lowetide,

    It’s hard to tell who is kidding around and who is being an ass on here sometimes LT.

    Welcome back Ducey. My Ouija board told me you were coming back!
    :)

  37. bookje says:

    bendelson:
    Lowetide,

    It’s hard to tell who is kidding around and who is being an ass on here sometimes LT.

    Let me be clear on this – I am always being an ass!

  38. Jon K says:

    The Kevin Lowe piece alone is cause for concern.

    Then, Stauffer, the organization’s mouthpiece, apparently had a bit where he put down the entire Oilers defence group and then commented that Murray would be our 3rd or 4th best defenceman right now, and implicitly suggested that Murray is the piece we are missing.

    Those two things combined should be great cause for concern. All arrows right now are pointing to the org picking a good ole’ Canadian over one of those enigmatic, unpredictable Russians.

    …I don’t know how much longer I can tolerate this management group.

  39. OilClog says:

    Well Murray was scratched today.. and if Sutter is next in line to lead the troops.. Murray is clearly getting a head start on the dog house.. I obviously kid about everything.. unless it’s the fact that it’s really going to hurt, seeing Yaks deak around Murray, scoring on Dubnyk for the next decade.

  40. TheOtherJohn says:

    Ducey

    Glad you are back. Eagerly await your first criticism of management for being too slow on the Plan

    Love Stu’s evaluation of Landeskog: best case scenario second line winger play all situations. WTF Was Stu talking about Landeskog’s first 15 games as a 19 year old? He Scored 22 and was plus 20 on a team that was -19, played all 82 games and will get better. Would be the absolute perfect Left winger for RNH and Eberle .

  41. TheOtherJohn says:

    Jon K

    Do not worry about Stauffer and hi beaking off re 3rd or 4th best D man on Oilers. Once you get past Smid, Petry and Schultz you are into 6th-7th defenders. We have a really bad defense but I am sure it’s all part of the Plan

  42. "Steve Smith" says:

    bendelson:
    Lowetide,

    It’s hard to tell who is kidding around and who is being an ass on here sometimes LT.

    Why can’t it be both?

  43. oilersfan says:

    Barons win 4-3

    Kind of disheartening all the goals scored by Keller, Arcobello, and Rodney.

    Zero goals, zero assists for all of Hartikainen. Paajarvi, Lander or Pitlick.

    All 4 of them should start the season next year in the AHL. Until they become elite players there why pencil them into the lineups for the Oilers?

  44. DSF says:

    oilersfan:
    Barons win 4-3

    Kind of disheartening all the goals scored by Keller, Arcobello, and Rodney.

    Zero goals, zero assists for all of Hartikainen. Paajarvi, Lander or Pitlick.

    All 4 of them should start the season next year in the AHL. Until they become elite players there why pencil them into the lineups for the Oilers?

    Maybe they aren’t all that.

    Replace them with cheap, seasoned NHL vets and you have a plan?

  45. TheOtherJohn says:

    In fainess, Pitlick, MPS and the Finn have all had good playoffs.

    Unfortunately the narrative that the OKC bus has been driven by prospects in the regular season is complete bullshit. The OKC vets have had a real good season. Yan Denis has had an incredible year. What that has to do with prospects is negligible

  46. Lowetide says:

    I think Hartikainen, Paajarvi and Lander among the forwards will get long looks in the fall. After that, all of the kids need at least another year up front. On the blue, Teubert and Plante might get more playing time in the NHL next season depending on what happens to Peckham and Chorney.

  47. hags9k says:

    Off topic somewhat but after spending some time over at ON I am amazed at how many people have thrown in the towel on Paajarvi. Everywhere I look these days people are slotting in Harsky ahead of him, or have him nowhere to be found on our depth chart. Watching Paajarvi the last 2 years I see a very young bright kid with world class skating, passion for the game, good size, and a brain to play both ends. The scoring will come. If he doesn’t end up being a 1000 game NHLer I’ll eat my shorts. Buddy just turned 21. I see him as AT LEAST a Draper/Maltby piece of the puzzle. The only question for me is how many of those games will be in an Oiler uni…

  48. DSF says:

    TheOtherJohn:
    In fainess, Pitlick, MPS and the Finn have all had good playoffs.

    Unfortunately the narrative that the OKC bus has been driven by prospects in the regular season is complete bullshit. The OKC vets have had a real good season. Yan Denis has had an incredible year. What that has to do with prospects is negligible

    Exactly.

    Not one of them has shown any promise.

    Marc Arcobello and Ryan Keller looking good though.

  49. Lowetide says:

    hags9k:
    Off topic somewhat but after spending some time over at ON I am amazed at how many people have thrown in the towel on Paajarvi.Everywhere I look these days people are slotting in Harsky ahead of him, or have him nowhere to be found on our depth chart.Watching Paajarvi the last 2 years I see a very young bright kid with world class skating, passion for the game, good size, and a brain to play both ends.The scoring will come.If he doesn’t end up being a 1000 game NHLer I’ll eat my shorts.Buddy just turned 21.I see him as AT LEAST a Draper/Maltby piece of the puzzle.The only question for me is how many of those games will be in an Oiler uni…

    I think he’ll be a player but offensively he isn’t going to get a push now. Oilers have too many major league talents and may be adding another. MP’s best chance is as a 2-way winger. I think he’ll be a good one, but 15-20 goals a season should be the expectation.

    Still a heckuva player if he can make it, though.

  50. DSF says:

    hags9k:
    Off topic somewhat but after spending some time over at ON I am amazed at how many people have thrown in the towel on Paajarvi.Everywhere I look these days people are slotting in Harsky ahead of him, or have him nowhere to be found on our depth chart.Watching Paajarvi the last 2 years I see a very young bright kid with world class skating, passion for the game, good size, and a brain to play both ends.The scoring will come.If he doesn’t end up being a 1000 game NHLer I’ll eat my shorts.Buddy just turned 21.I see him as AT LEAST a Draper/Maltby piece of the puzzle.The only question for me is how many of those games will be in an Oiler uni…

    Paajarvi is Jani Rita.

    Always has been.

  51. TheOtherJohn says:

    There is zero reason to give Plante or Tuebert minutes at the NHL level unless it’s about Tambellini and Lowe worried about ther trades/picks.. Both looked overmatched at NHL level

    Lander just had a freaking 65 game look added ZERO offense. Play him huge minutes in the AHL

  52. hags9k says:

    Lowetide,

    I agree. And I think the management should publicly groom him for that 3rd line role. We have a tendency to throw away useful pieces once we see they are not “top 6″ scorers. You need guys like this to win it. So far his pro stat line looks eerily similar to Maltby’s. No shame in being a good 3rd liner, I’m sick of this aparent attitude in Oil Country that everyone who won’t score 40 is therefore on the trading block.

  53. gogliano says:

    Do people think the Dys would rather play the devils, rangers or capitals in the finals?

  54. hags9k says:

    DSF: Paajarvi is Jani Rita.

    Always has been.

    Don’t think so bub.

  55. Lowetide says:

    gogliano: )

    Doesn’t matter. Burrows is flying!

  56. Ryan says:

    VOR,

    Not likely. I’ll go with occam’s razor. The Oilers will draft Murray. They’re just pumping his tires for PR spin for the fanbase. Nothing that the Oilers v3.0 release by the media has ever been used (successfully) to gain advantage over another team. It’s all just talking to their customers. The customer is ALWAYS right–except when it wants you to draft Yakupov.

    I don’t remember the Taylor vs. Tyler debate being much of a debate. I never really sensed that they were actually serious about Seguin. Same with last year. It was pretty clear that they were taking the Nuge by this time.

    I think it’s about as much of what you don’t hear (or read) that’s the tell. There’s about as much PR about Yakupov as there was for Seguin. Sure, he’s mentioned in the Hall vs. Murray debate–much like Seguin was. It’s acknowledged that he’s talented, then the discussion (by the oilers talking heads) goes on and on about Murray.

    Scout report re: 2012 draft: first overall pick

  57. VOR says:

    HAGS9K,

    No prospect who takes time to mature and has an uneven development history is ever going to be liked by Oilers fans.

    A brief list of the guys Oilers fans have tried to drive out of town (and this is only a partial list), Coffey, Messier, Anderson, Jackson, Fuhr, Graves, Klima, Satan, Maltby, Chimera, Cleary, Brodziak, Mironov, Brewer, and of course Hemsky & Arnott. Collectively we have been wrong many more times than we have been right. That has never stopped any of us from thinking we should be GM of the Oilers. Now with the blogosphere we can boo online rather than having to go to actual games to do the heavy lifting.

    Our mantra is “We want results. When do we want them? Now!!!!!”
    We can’t seem to remember the long years of building the went into the team that would be the Boys on the Bus (Pouzar in the 4th round for example), the search for missing pieces during the Weight years, or the careful planning that nearly snatched a Stanley Cup out of thin air in 2006.

    My argument above about all the Murray hype possibly being a pump and dump probably seemed insane to some of you. However, the guy that built the 2005-2006 Edmonton Oilers is quite capable of doing a pump and dump. Jaroslav Spacek, Sergei Samsonov, and Dwayne Roloson as in season pickups. The epic trade for Pronger, Michael Peca’s signing. It was as good a single season performance as you could expect from any GM, ever. All done on a shoestring budget. Then a superstar’s wife blew it all apart.

    That all happened just six years ago but we have already lost it in the mists of time.

    Maybe Paajarvi is nothing, maybe he is going to be one of the greats. We are years away from knowing for sure. But Oilers fans want the cup today and if you aren’t a superstar now with a big name screw you. If Paajarvi becomes a star we will all remember how we always believed in him. If he tanks wse will remember how we said the Oilers should have unloaded that piece of shit when he still had some value.

    Our insanity is actually pretty amusing when you take a moment to step back and reflect.

  58. Ryan says:

    Ryan,

    Oops. Damn iPad lol. I meant Nail vs Murray “debate.”

    Today, on stauffer at lunch time, he spoke with howson. Howson said he’s met with Yakupov and they have a few more meetings planned. He hasn’t met with or mentioned Murray.

  59. oilersfan says:

    Well, Maltby and Draper were very physical, dirty players.

    MP is likely more like Dvorak. A useful third liner but tough that the pick could have been used on Ellis, Kulekov or Rundblad.

    Dvorak and Pyatt types are always available on august 15 for a million bucks.

    I am still hoping he becomes more Loui Erikson than Dvorak but the shot and elite hockey sense offensively don’t seem to be there.

    That being said, he aint Jani Rita …

  60. gd says:

    hags9k:
    Lowetide,

    I agree.And I think the management should publicly groom him for that 3rd line role.We have a tendency to throw away useful pieces once we see they are not “top 6″ scorers.You need guys like this to win it.So far his pro stat line looks eerily similar to Maltby’s.No shame in being a good 3rd liner, I’m sick of this aparent attitude in Oil Country that everyone who won’t score 40 is therefore on the trading block.

    I hope Oiler’s mgmt and fans can accept that guys who are legit NHLers are valuable in the salary cap era as long as they are not overpaid and they stop losing valuable depth guys like they did with Chimera, Brodziak and Glencross. The fact that Magnus hasn’t panned out as a 10th pick doesn’t mean he can’t be a valuable guy and will save them money on his second contract. I really hope they follow the Detroit model of giving guys development time and not pigeonhole them.

    I’ve got to believe between PRV, Harsky, Pitlick, Trembley, Tyrvainian, Reider, Pelss, Czeronka and Ewanyk we have at least 4 guys who can play on an NHL playoff team in the next two years as the most cost effective guys are the 20-27 yr olds.

  61. TheOtherJohn says:

    Vor

    Actually no freaking clue how you compare the current roster wih going holes to the Oilers now with the boys on the bus. In 1979 they had Gretzky, Messier, Lowe, Lumley, Hunter, Fogolin, Semenko and the immortal Stan Weir.

    You just compared RNH and Taylor with #1 and #2 scorer of all time. plus who fits the other holes

  62. jb says:

    DSF: Paajarvi is Jani Rita.

    Always has been.

    And you are a lifelong nucklehead fan, envious of the Oilers organization. So out of touch with reality from all those years of violent beatings from the Oilers, that you feel to need to pretend to be a fan, and pretend to feel accepted here. Every shot you take inflates your delicate ego, while you foolishly believe your negativity towards the OIlers will rub off on fans here..

    Once you realize how truly inept the Canucks are as a management group, team, and fanbase, and accept that the Canucks will ALWAYS be incapable of winning it all, your little dream bubble will burst. Where you’ll then likely wanna become an Oiler fan for real. I wait for that day.

  63. rickithebear says:

    Congrats to Rieder winning the OHL pLayoff: goal scoring and Points title.

  64. VOR says:

    The other john,

    I didn’t compare anybody to anybody.

    My post is about, and the shoe must have fit, fans who believe every thing must happen instantly and how they are forgetting history. The Boys on the Bus started with a bad season, followed by a mediocre one, followed by the Miracle on Manchester (when the kings chewed them up and spat our the pieces). The next year the Oilers went to the Stanley Cup final and got humbled by the Islanders. That takes us up to the moment when Gretzky and Messier walked by the Islanders dressing room expecting a party and instead saw they couldn’t even move, it was an infirmary not a dressing room. The Islanders had left everything on the ice, everything. Messier and Gretzky both say that is the moment they realized what it takes to win a Stanley Cup and the Boys on the Bus were born.

    But even then the building of that team wasn’t done. Sather’s next move was met with no interest at all. He traded Tom Roulston to Pittsburgh for a tweener who had trouble staying healthy early in the 83-84 season. The guy had no offense and was your total no-name. Yet Kevin McLelland would be the warrior in the trenches the Oilers had never had. Famously, he would score the most important goal in the history of the Oilers, the one that proved neither Billy Smith nor the Islanders were invincible.

    My point is and was that each good to great Oilers team has taken years to build. Each time the fans have wanted to fry management and have tried to get rid of players who couldn’t hack it. The ones they couldn’t get rid of are mostly in the hall of fame, most of the ones they could get rid of have skated around the ice with the Stanley Cup while playing for other teams. I named three teams, the great Boys on the Bus, the Weight/Cujo Oilers, and the 2005/2006 Oilers coming out of the lock out and said each was years in the making.

    Somehow, you made that into me comparing Hall and RNH to Messier and Gretzky. I did no such thing. Totally in your head.

  65. Marc says:

    TheOtherJohn:

    Love Stu’s evaluation of Landeskog: best case scenario second line winger play all situations. WTF Was Stu talking about Landeskog’s first 15games as a 19 year old? He Scored 22 and was plus 20 on a team that was -19, played all 82 games and will get better. Would be the absolute perfect Left winger for RNH and Eberle .

    Yeah he definitely called that one wrong.

    For the purposes of this year’s draft though it’s worth noting that the guy he liked the least was the most NHL ready guy. This year’s most NHL ready guy is Murray. He also pegged Larsson as a 2 because of his lack of offence, so I’d be shocked if he rated Murray as anything higher than a 2 as well.

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