THE KLEFBOM

The Oilers have “4 lights” of depth in the system and more on the way. The problem for Edmonton is that all of them are miles away.

Oscar Klefbom is the best blue prospect in the system. I ranked him #3 in the winter top 20, ahead of Martin Marincin, Martin Gernat and David Musil.  Described as a raw prospect with a lot to learn about defense, he’s also touted as someone who will post enough offense to be considered a 2-way type in the NHL. However, as with Ladislav Smid before him Klefbom isn’t posting numbers that we would associate with a future 25-35 point NHL defender.

  • Smid at 17: CZE 45, 1-1-2
  • Klefbom at 17: SEL 23, 1-1-2 8:50TOI
  • Smid at 18: CZE 39, 1-3-4
  • Klefbom at 18: SEL 33, 2-0-2 13:43TOI
  • Smid at 19: AHL 71, 3-25-28

The NHLE’s for each of the seasons above are 1-2-3 (Smid at 17); 3-3-6 (Klefbom at 17); 2-4-6 (Smid at 18);  2-2-4 (Klefbom at 18); 2-12-14 (Smid at 19). Four of those 5 seasons are identical, with Smid’s AHL season being “wind-aided” via 3-11-14 on the PP. His evens NHLE season at 19 with Portland? 0-7-7.

I understand the TOI totals are low, but even if you double up the icetime this kid is basically Don Awrey. Maybe we should look at the depth chart and the time on ice.

FARJESTAD BLUE DEPTH CHART AND TIME ON ICE 11-12

NAME GP G A PTS TOI/G
MARTIN SEVC (LEAVING) 50 5 11 16 22:53
SANNY LINDSTROM 46 1 2 3 19:33
KRISTOFER BERGLUND (LEAVING) 51 0 10 10 18:32
JONAS BRODIN 49 0 8 8 17:27
JONAS FROGREN (LEAVING) 33 0 0 0 16:27
ANTON GRUNDEL 43 3 3 6 15:29
MAGNUS NYGREN 50 7 11 18 14:47
OSCAR KLEFBOM 33 2 0 2 13:43
JOHAN LARSSON 31 2 1 3 12:17

Klefbom passed along some intel about the Farjestad blue in 12-13 courtesy Martin Lundén. Sevc, Berglund and Frogren are leaving, and that should mean bigger minutes for youngsters Brodin and Klefbom. The TOI combined with the depth chart (our man is 8 of 9 on the depth chart and didn’t pleay in a lot of games) suggests he was indeed a back of the roster option in 11-12.

I think we should probably wait and see about the offense. Klefbom will get a real shot this winter and based on WJ viewings he has some dynamic puck moving ability. If he gets the big minutes and can’t deliver offensively, I think it might be time to start talking about Klefbom as a future Laddy: a stay-at-home defender with good speed and limited offense.

And if that’s true, then the list of possible blue with a wide range of skills is down to Marincin, Gernat, and then Blain and Davidson if they sign. The nature of the hockey defense building business tells us some make it, some do not and sometimes they all fall in the river.

I don’t think the Oilers are deep enough at the position in any area: NHL, AHL or bubbling under.

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  1. regwald says:

    After a solid WJ’s I was hoping for more advancement and possibly a better outlook. Still a solid pick with opportunity to be an NHL player.

    This team is so thin on defence, it would be nice if MBS could stumble on a couple of Keith or Seabrooks to help out the idiots in charge.

  2. Lowetide says:

    I think they’ll be blue heavy this season. Just a hunch, but their goalies are tracking well and there’s a plethora of forwards. Blue and center this season would be my guess.

  3. Truth says:

    If only trades were allowed in the NHL

  4. TheOtherJohn says:

    Lowetide

    Just teasing us with the Critchlow…..

    The Bomb!!

    If his ceiling is Smid like, you can win a SC with 3-4 of those guys if you have an offensive rearguard or two. Think Klefbom skates better than Smid. Also think he will be bigger. Do not think he is a 20 pt guy though. Think Rickibear is currently writing his HOF acceptance speech, just kidding, but am confident he will be a real solid NHL defender. But 13:43 TOI at 19 years old. That’s a bit discouraging. It is, though, a man’s league. Think it’s right idea to leave him over for 1 more year.

    Think it’s time we targeted an absolute Stud D man and overpaid to get him: trade, UFA, whatever. it would, if you actually believed in “the Plan” and rebuild, allow us to leave kid D men in junior, SEL or AHL to excell before throwing them into deep end. Beat Philly to the punch and trade for rights to talk to Suter before FA starts. I.e. Omark for rights to talk to him and 2nd rounder if we sign him

  5. regwald says:

    Lowetide,

    I would agree. My favorite scenario is moving Ganger and/or Hemsky to get that young defender ready to step in. However, as pointed out that creates a whack-a-mole scenario up the middle. Unless that means Hall moves to center.

    I think this is the make or break summer for Tambo. If he can plug a few holes and deliver NHL players to the new coach. If not, I doubt he is around for the summer of 2013 to make any more mistakes. That said, this pending negotiations of the CBA will have a huge impact if it creates a long delay to the start of the season.

  6. godot10 says:

    Gagner and Hemsky aren’t going to get you anything. Hemsky might next off-season if he returns to form. Right now, you might get a 2nd round draft pick for him. And you can’t pump-n-dump Hemsky and keep Yakupov happy simultaneously. One of the two is going to be stuck playing with Horcoff or Belanger.

    Gagner might get you a mediocre #4 D. He’s not going to get you a #3D or better. Again, maybe next summer after a breakout season. Bogosian was a #3 D last summer. The price was Gagner and Smid.

    Sign Garrison, cross your fingers for Justin Schultz, and draft Murray. If you fail to get Schultz, go after a second UFA.

  7. Germoil says:

    How is his one timer? I’d love to hear “The Klefbom” in regards to it.

  8. sliderule says:

    Now your talking about a player I really like but you have his age wrong.He hasn’t turned nineteen yet.His birthday was July 20 th 1993.

    He is a very young 2011 draftee who is only two months older than Ryan Murray.

    He played better than Murray(the most NHL ready draftee according to press) at the WJC .Every one of the all star defencemen at the WJC over the past few years have played in the NHL the next year

    As he is signed by Farjestad for next year maybe the oil were hooped.I still think they could have made a deal to get him over here and get half a season on AHL ice and maybe 20 games with the oil.

  9. rickithebear says:

    LT: just one problem with the analysis
    Klefbom at 17: SEL 23, 1-1-2 8:50TOI
    Smid at 18: CZE 39, 1-3-4
    Kefbom at 18: SEL 33, 2-0-2 13:43TOI
    Smid at 19: AHL 71, 3-25-28
    Kefbom at 19: SEL ??, x-x-x ??TOI

    It will be interresting to see how klefbom does at age 19 in the SEL.

  10. spoiler says:

    godot10
    Bogosian was a #3 D last summer.The price was Gagner and Smid.

    Must’ve been tough for Winnipeg to spit out those two names with their mouths wrapped around a crack pipe. Even Tambo isn’t that stupid.

  11. Lowetide says:

    Fixed, thanks guys. Remains true, Smid didn’t piss a drop offensively at 17 and 18, and at 19 he scored well on the PP but I have to wonder why he was even tried at the discipline.

    I do like Klefbom, but we need to see some offense. And playing time, frankly.

  12. sliderule says:

    The other thing you have to consider is you have to throw NHLes out for defencemen unless they are getting power play time.

    The understanding I have in the first half of the season Klefbom was getting minimum playing time and no PP time.After his showing in the WJC and a change in coach his playing time went way up but he was used in a shutdown role with only a little PP time.

  13. Rondo says:

    I wonder how Klefbom compares t o OEL at the same age?

  14. Lowetide says:

    OEL played in SWE-2 league at that age.

    Sliderule: And that fits with my scenario. That role–the one he played in the second half of the season–may end up being his role. I thought he did plenty of it at the WJ’s too.

  15. spoiler says:

    Lowetide:

    I do like Klefbom, but we need to see some offense. And playing time, frankly.

    Unless you’re Larsson, Hedman, Brodin types, ’tis the Swedish way. And they all went in the top 10.

  16. spoiler says:

    This org is seriously missing some offense from the blue line, what ever the case, and it’s hard to see Murray, filling that role, even less so in the near future. Surely drafting him 1st would be a mistake of epic proportions?

  17. Lowetide says:

    spoiler:
    This org is seriously missing some offense from the blue line, what ever the case, and it’s hard to see Murray, filling that role, even less so in the near future. Surely drafting him 1st would be a mistake of epic proportions?

    I think we’re about to find out.

  18. gcw_rocks says:

    All the young d coming through the system are clearly not fast track players. They need somewhere to develop, so unless tambo is going to start doing some 2 for 1 trades, I think they focus a little more on forwards this year.

    I would love to see Yakupov or Galchenyuk 1st overall, followed by Samuelson if he makes it to the second round, perhaps a goalie like Subban in the third round, and then boom or bust forwards and defenders from then on out. Don’t need to draft anymore Cameron Abney’s. 4th round on, swing for the fences.

  19. unca miltie says:

    a long time ago,it was Petrie, Wild and Chorney. Seems to me that LT said the odds were that one would make it..so far correct.

    So now we have, Klefbom, Gernat, Maricin, and Musil as well as a couple others like Blain. Do we get two out of this group?

  20. spoiler says:

    Oil Kings really struggling against the trap.

  21. Lowetide says:

    It looks to me like the Knights did a little head hunting early Dale Hunter style and the Oil Kings got into penalty trouble and had some poor luck. But you know, the Oil Kings have been stinky for a few days now

  22. regwald says:

    Lowetide,

    Their PP got left behind in the MJ series and hasn’t been seen since. Doesn’t help much.

    It is definitely a cheap London team – lots of chippiness and they trap a good as any Devil team of recent memory.

  23. spoiler says:

    Lots of stick work… the Knights keep it to mostly stick-on-stick so there’s no call. Every time a King touched the puck, his stick got hacked. It’s tough enough to skate, pass and shoot on this ice as it is. Great gap control and lots of skating by the Knights, but it makes for anti-hockey. Italian football coaches may have been involved.

  24. DBO says:

    Was just gonna message that Pouliot isn’t really doing much, then he scores. LT smiles like a proud poppa.

  25. Lowetide says:

    POOO!!!!!

  26. Magnus says:

    Right now at the junior level we have Oscar Klefbom, Martin Gernat, Martin Marincin, David Musil, Dillon Simpson, Jeremie Blain and Brandon Davidson as defensive prospects. Although some of them will be transitioning to the AHL next year I think its pretty safe to say we have some decent defensive depth at that level.
    In comparison, at forward we have Tobias Rieder, Kristians Pelss and Travis Ewanyk in the junior leagues, with Rieder the only standout. At this point I would be more worried about our forward depth than defense.

  27. Oilcountry says:

    We will find an offensive dman, I like the idea of petry,smid,klefbom, musil as part of our defence in acouple of years. Hopefully marincin can make some strides in the ahl and we would have. 5 d. Men over 6′-2 mix in a tuebert. And really were missing that true offensive d man. Time to earn that paycheck tambellini.

    Anybody here tencer on ched playing a interview from Edmonton oilers.com? Finished up talking about oil king prospects by saying hopefully they can add another this year, let the drama begin was he talking about reinhart or samuelson thoughts.

  28. regwald says:

    This one is for DSF

    Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman

    Paajarvi RT @zanny0814: @coreypronman Nino or Paajarvi?

  29. spoiler says:

    Would it have been better for Klefbom to play down a level, dominate (especially physically), get PP time, or to learn to play against men, others his size, practice against them, better coaching etc?

    Does having played a higher level show when you return to your age group? Considering his performance at the U19s, and even moreso the WJC, against older opp, it appears so. But we’re still left with a vacuum of knowledge about his offensive skills. Similar to Murray in that regard.

  30. regwald says:

    More Pronman tweets

    Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman

    Like the skating/skill combo. Bit of a project, but has scoring potential. RT @GenoReda: @coreypronman thoughts on Tobias Rieder?

  31. LMHF#1 says:

    Penner the playoff monster. Sign that man.

  32. spoiler says:

    What a horrible ending for the Coyotes. Kudos to Charlie Penner banging it home. Dustin Brown is going to need an escort to the bus.

  33. Kert says:

    Pancakes eliminates Phoenix. I’m still a fan of the big man. Klefbom is a long way from winning that trade. I think he’ll make it close either way.

  34. spoiler says:

    Knock off #s 1, 2, 3 while going 8-0 on the road in the Stanley Cup Playoffs.

  35. DSF says:

    regwald:
    This one is for DSF

    Corey Pronman ‏@coreypronman

    Paajarvi RT @zanny0814: @coreypronman Nino or Paajarvi?

    Two busts don’t make a boom.

  36. edwards_daddy says:

    I brought up the Hjalmarsson comparison last time we discussed Klefbom, and I still think they might be a good match. They are the same height – weight while Hjalmarsson was discribed as being very mobile, good in his own end with a offensive upside and a huge shot. Despite this report, he never really showed much offsense and it never really developed.
    I would be pretty happy with a Hjalmarsson on the team, although it’s a 3-4 D-man in the Smid mold rather than top pairing.

  37. franksterra says:

    Magnus:
    Right now at the junior level we have Oscar Klefbom, Martin Gernat, Martin Marincin, David Musil, Dillon Simpson, Jeremie Blain and Brandon Davidson as defensive prospects. Although some of them will be transitioning to the AHL next year I think its pretty safe to say we have some decent defensive depth at that level.
    In comparison, at forward we have Tobias Rieder, Kristians Pelss and Travis Ewanyk in the junior leagues, with Rieder the only standout. At this point I would be more worried about our forward depth than defense.

    And as LT says in his article: “I don’t think the Oilers are deep enough at the position in any area: NHL, AHL or bubbling under.” To which I’d add “in any position, in any area”. Though the goalie prospects look good.

    This is why the 3 for 1 type deal, three 7′s for a 10 or something, seems so appealing but in fact may not be an option right now. Drafting Yak or trading 1st OV outright for the elusive #1 D, and adding another tender, a proper all-rounder with toast, grit, barnacles, or fibreglass pink in the bottom six, and another 2-4 D-man through free agency makes more sense to me. I don’t see other teams jumping at any combo of Jones, Plante, rights to Omark, Sutton, Potter, Belanger, Chorney, Hamilton, Danis, Pettrell, etc. in a 3 for 1. And the set of guys we’re hanging our hopes on- MP, Lander, Harski, the ‘good’ D prospects – all are unproves, would garner low return, and we’re better off developing them ourselves. Smart, tactical FA all the way this year.

    Saying all that, a package deal that moves us up from #31 with our second pick could be doable.

  38. Ducey says:

    LMHF#1:
    Penner the playoff monster. Sign that man.

    …and then watch him go back to being lazy and invisible during the regular season.

    17 pts in 65 games. No thanks.

  39. spoiler says:

    Ducey: …and then watch him go back to being lazy and invisible during the regular season.

    17 pts in 65 games.No thanks.

    Are you taking wagers on that being his production next year?

  40. Mr DeBakey says:

    Are you taking wagers on that being his production next year?

    I’ll take whatever part of it that Spolier doesn’t want to cover.

    Shooting % dammit

  41. slambanna says:

    Reading this article and comments I would have guessed this was posted in January. A couple people posted that Klefbom’s play improved in the SEL following the WJC. This is quite an understatement. By all accounts from Swedish observers he took a massive step for Färjestad and he was arguably their best D-man by the end of the playoffs. Multiple scouts have him ahead of Brodin as a prospect now.
    In 11 very intense playoff games he averaged 19:33 TOI with virtually no pp time and seven D-man dressed.
    I personally believe his basement is top 4 in the NHL. If you look at all the info other than his low offensive numbers you should see there is definitely a player here. Outstanding character + Big development as an 18 year old in the SEL is why he is the only lock in my mind among the D prospects. Unfortunately we won’t see him here until 13-14.

    If you want the play by play on his progress this season, browse this thread:
    http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/showthread.php?t=935079&page=18

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