OILERS AT #1: NAIL YAKUPOV
The Edmonton Oilers took the BPA.
SCOUTING REPORT
Corey Pronman, Hockey Prospectus: “He’s a well above-average skater with plus speed and tremendous agility. He has the ability to push the tempo up the ice and keep defenders on their heels, but he’s probably even more dangerous at a standstill with high-end agility, first step acceleration, and a real slippery aspect to his game. He has such a powerful stride that he can take a handful of strides and already have travelled half the distance of the ice.”
Ross MacLean, Head scout ISS: “Yakupov is a gifted goal scoring forward, something that really doesn’t seem to come around that often, so when one does he is a hot commodity. His explosive bursts of speed and understanding of scoring principles off the rush is very similar to that of what we saw from Taylor Hall a couple years ago, but also has some people thinking Pavel Bure. He is a dynamic and electrifying player that can bring fans to their feet and is a prime talent for marketing the sport in any locale or market. He is a player that should be able to step into the next level very quickly and continue to progress. Put all that together and you still only have a glimpse of what makes him such a desirable prospect and the number one ranked for us at ISS.”
DESJARDINS NHLE (per 82gp)
Taylor Hall 17-29-46
Nail Yakupov 18-22-40
Ryan Nugent-Hopkins 11-27-38
Yakupov’s NHLE suggests another strong Calder candidate and a player “in the range” with Taylor Hall. Yakupov’s equivalency was actually ahead of Hall’s pace before his injury. Yakupov has the most offensive potential in this draft according to Gabriel’s horn. TOI is also a concern. There have been reports of 28 minutes a night. THAT could skew things.
THE GOOD
That’s a wonderful scouting report, I’m going to miss these. There’s no skating issues, no “wide body style slows him down” or “had mono” or “born with a tail” or some of the other maladies we’ve seen in the past with Oiler picks. Another finisher, after a long stretch of few or none. This kid shoots bullets. He can pass and take a pass and has some spine.
He lit it up at the WJ’s and scored a big hatty against a tough team same week. He should be plug and play; I would expect Yakupov can play in the NHL next season and score goals.
THE BAD
The knee injury is a concern. His performance after the knee injury was well off previous performance.
- Before: 26, 21-32-53 2.04ppg
- After: 16, 10-6-16 1.00ppg
Lack of size will make it difficult for him to impact the game physically (he has an edge to his game). Could use his linemates more, and sometimes tries to do too much (these are kind of the same thing but that’s how it was posted by Grant McCagg). There are reports that he could use more work in his own end of the rink, but that’s true of damn near every 18-year old this side of Bob Gainey. I’m not sure we’ve read a lot of good things about his play in traffic. I might have missed it in the scouting reports–he is described as a guy who has grit–but most of the highlights of him I’ve seen involve shooting from high percentage areas without a lot of opposition. He might be more of a perimeter player than someone like Taylor Hall, but that’s a guess based on comparing the two youngster’s scouting reports. Performing at a high level when there’s a lot of traffic is an extremly valuable asset; we don’t know–or haven’t been told–he has that gear.
THE REST
You have to work hard to find something wrong with this kid. Sure, he could end up in Russia but the Oilers would have every opportunity to make sure that didn’t happen. Sure, if you draft him and can’t sign him that’s a problem but everything about him screams NHL. And his value would be exceptional, especially after an impressive year or two.
The Oilers are deep at RW, but that’s a problem that is easily solved. Trading Ales Hemsky or Jordan Eberle will probably be the better move two years down the road, and Yakupov is very likely to emerge as the #1 RW on this team early in his career.

Maatta?
Its supposed to be a draft with not a lot of high end guys but pretty good depth. Not much reason to move up. The guys on the board are probably not work a 2nd and a third, are they?
Chris,
Starting to? They were big losers last draft, and shaping up to be more the same this year. Chevaldayoff seems to like “good Canadian boys”. Either that or his scouting staff sucks and he’s too stupid to can them.
Just catching up – Calgary is crazy stupid.
George doesn’t want to get booed again. He should trade.
The same source telling Tencer that the Oilers were definitely taking Ryan Murray?
Maybe, surprised however that the small Finn is still available though, Teravainen.
Plus I wanted to set up my line about Gregor and the smelling salts. Wanted another cheap shot at Tambellini, might be the beer talking.
Middle of draft is all over the map as everyone thought it would be.
Lowetide,
Small players not wanted in the NHL
thats a good pick
Can you get to 18 with 32 + 63+91? Would it be worth it?
Teravainen to Chicago??
did the sharks guy just flip the bird?
Does anyone else want the Oilers to trade up for Teravainen?
time to sit tight….err…..dither.
Even if he panned out, where would he fit into the lineup?
Come on, Tambellini. Trade up for Maatta!
Yeah, what a looser, Calgary somehow managed to make a trade!
What about
Hemsky and the #32 to Pittsburgh for the #22 (Samuelsson) and Michalek.
Cactus,
I thought Teravainen played left wing for some reason. My bad.
godot10,
done
Just a present from Santa this year.
No other gifts under the tree.
Wow, this might be the first time I have ever agreed with you.
godot10,
I think Calgary may have traded down for Samuelsson. The Flames have a draft profile for him on their website.
Well they are 5 years behind in the rebuild.
Lowetide,
I wonder where he is ranked by Stu
mike.c33,
No worries, Teravainen does play LW. But the Oilers are loaded with skilled wingers, particularly not large ones (Hall and Yakupov aren’t small, just not huge). If they trade up it’ll either be for a power forward type (Samuelsson) or something really interesting on defence.
I’m still supportive of using 32 to get us a real NHL player.
Pierre needs to talk less. He loves everyone, for they are all the absolutely best at everything.
I’d say pretty high. They would have seen him good this spring,
Agree. Tambo, deal the 2nd and 3rd for Philly pick. Do it. or not
Tampa Bay had a nice little Friday lined up for themselves.
Cactus,
That’s true. I am almost certain the Flames are going to grab Samuelsson at 21 though.
I get the sinking feeling Maata is about to go to Calgary. Well him or Samuelsson.
damn. flames can take maata
Feaster’s shitty deal doesn’t look so bad if they still get maatta. Damn.
Ouch. Flames get their choice of Samuelsson, Maatta and Thrower. That’s some nice talent.
So the oilers get thrower at 32?
MacT will chloroform Tambi and choose a…oh what am I saying?
There is nothing happening until tomorrow at #32.
YAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
didn’t someone on here mention this kid as a 3rd rd pick option
Calgary….wtf are they doing
@Calgary: lol wut?
Did Calgary just draft Jesse Niinimaki ?
Ah, thank you Calgary.
Thank you.
Feaster picks the kid who delivers his paper.
get Maata already.
The Calgary Flames just wrote the feel good story of the year, as per TSN.
Maybe faster knows he is done and just wants to add to the big FU that GMs in Calgary leave behind.
Pierre McGuire talks too much. I prefer to hear MacKenzie but Pierre keeps chattering. Pierre – “Zip it!”
Red Line liked Jankowski
Feaster could have picked this kid with the pick he got from Buffalo.
feister’s an idiot – just called the kid the best player in the draft in 10 yrs – no pressure on the kid
Yeah, the safer choice was a guy like Maata, but if you’re going to reach, this isn’t the worst idea. At least this guy COULD become a top 6 guys. A lot of the guys drafted in this area may not have that level of potential.
Is Feaster the smartest guy in the room?
Maybe Feaster took MacT’s advice to heart.
Tambo must be pretty sure we are getting Shultz cause this was the place to trade up
Haha….ammunition for life for Oiler fans. Thanks Feasts!
What about Peckham and the #32 to Florida for the #23?
So Calgary’s pick will be “the best player in this draft”. Why were we so worried about whether we were going to get Nail?
So that should drop someone better to the Oilers at 32. Thanks Flamers.
Pittsburg is going to be very deep. Can only lose with bad goaltending.
I know everybody loves Samuelsson, but holding at 32 they’re going to get a good prospect. Gaunce keeps slipping too..
If we are talking about hockey sense or haircuts? nope.
Yeah, calling the kid the best player in the draft is just dumb. That accomplishes nothing. Makes you and him look bad if he’s anything less.
you cant make someone look bad, once the bar is set so low. You can only reinforce.
Boston picks at 24, possible Oiler trade partner?
All this Feaster nimcompoopery is overshadowing the fact that Tambo isnt busy enough and just as busy as we were scared he would be….c’mon man.
What exactly do you want him to do?
Are they folding?
According to Pierre McGuire, these players will all be 1st team All Stars next season. Some of them might slip to 2nd team but not likely.
My guess is Wash did well in the first rd.
thank you for introducing nincompoop to the feaster colloquial. Only objection is Tamblows window of activity shoud be weighted more heavily after the draft, instead of round 1.
Henry,
And they’ve loaded up at that position as well.
Troll
I was giving the Jets shit for overlooking strong offensive players dropping into their lap and then Calgary goes way off the board. Wow Calgary spends a first round pick on a second round talent from a Canadian highschool….I couldn’t have imagined them making a more incompetent selection.
Seriously, no matter the talent level of the kid, that is a stupid stupid thing to say.
hunter1909′s 2012-13 opening night top 6:
HALL gagner EBERLE
mps RNH YAKUPOV
Gagner blooms as a number one centreman after getting spoon fed prime scoring opportunities on every shift from Hall+Eberle;
MPS meanwhile channels his inner Peter Forsberg, once he sees RNH and NAIL FREAKING YAKUPOV flying down the ice.
PS: The Dynasty team also had four freakingly great forwards; which meant that they could pretty well afford to have any one of them missing at any given moment. Oilers just got themselves the exact same kind of forward core!
PPS: Yakupov doesn’t half remind me of The Rocket. He’s got all that crazy blood from the army of Ghengis Khan hahahaha.
hunter1909,
When MPS sees a linemate flying down the ice he immediately turns into a defenceman.
I know that the NHL series of video games has no bearing in real hockey, but oh man, that Hemsky – Hall – Yakupov line is just absolutely sick.
Continuing a longstanding annual post Oilers pick tradition…
There are enough decent enough players left that I’m not sure they’d trade up, guess if they thought someone wouldn’t be there at 32?
Aberg, Thrower, Samuelsson, Finn, Gaunce, Collberg, Pearson, Bozon??? You see anyone else you like at 32 LT?
hunter1909,
Didn’t Gagner play something like 25 games with Eberle and Hall at the end of last season and put up next to nothing in points?
DSF is going to be awfully happy if St. louis passes on Ulf’s boy
mike.c33,
Must you put a down on tonight with facts?
That looks about right. Man, this has been a fun draft. I’ve missed parts of it but the run on defensemen meant some outstanding talent in the back half. The Flames pick is the strange one. could be good, you never know. But imo they could have traded down again.
Hearing Yakupov named as Oiler’s pick made it for me.
Also, the Flames are making like the 2003 oilers. Flames are really enjoy meeting up for those BOA’s, for the next ten years, LOL.
11-7 scores are coming back!
Oscar Dansk
Collberg, Sebastian
Bystrom, Ludwig
Kerdiles, Nicholas
Thrower, Dalton
Frk, Martin
Make a trade for trades sake!!!!!!!
mike.c33,
I see Gagner eventually as a winger if he’s part of an Oiler playoff team.
Hence my videogame lines of Gagner, RNH, Ebs and Hemsky, Hall, Yakupov.
3 RWs, 1 LW and 2 Cs, including Gagner as an undersized 2nd center, something’s gotta give.
Lowetide,
Yeah, LT.
Surely they could’ve at least gotten a late round pick or something to trade down another 5-10 spots,
But that’s the weird thing about these off the board picks. Some GM gets it in their head that Niiniimaki is great, and so they start thinking Niiniimaki is going to get picked before they have a chance to do it.
ASkoreyko,
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHH.
No way i trade up now…
Yeah, agreed. BPA and another rocket.
Its looking pretty good for us to get Sebastian Colberg or Samuelson at #32. Obviously two very different options. Colberg plays leftwing though. Imagine having that much skill in the top six. He was fantastic for the swedes at the WJs
San Jose grabbed Hertl.
Enough guys are falling. I don’t think Oil needs to make trades up tonight. Gaunce, Finn, Sissons are reasonable options if they don’t get Samuellsson. Second rd picks might be handy bargaining chips for the Dmen like Enstrom, Tyutin and Streit.
Gonna be some good players left at 32…
I like Stan Smyl, but really no one gives a fuck.
Samuelsson might be there at 32…..hold…..hold…….hold…….
I’m hoping for Samuelsson or Collberg at 32, now.
Yeah, I don’t recall Edmonton going crazy about putting Messier’s 11 on RNH last year. If there was ever an excuse, that was it.
Maybe if the Canucks had more HoFers, they wouldn’t have to get so choked up about it.
Did the air in the building just go out when Vancouver picked
“DSF is going to be awfully happy if St. louis passes on Ulf’s boy”
fuzzy muppet,
Hah. At least not the Canucks.
I’d like to thank Calgary for helping to ensure we get a better player at #32 than we had any right to expect.
Can’t wait for DSF’s take
Finn, Skeji, Matteau, Collberg, Pearson, Di Giuseppe Left frmo Bob’s top 30.
this is the franchise that shot confetti from the roof after winning the semifinals.
In retrospect it had to be a tell when macgregor said Yak reminded him of Valeri Kharlamov.
damn samuelson to the coyotes
well that stinks….I’m on ther SjKei train now
Alright if not Samuelson than Stu bring us Colberg! He is the Swedish Eberle.
And one of the smartest GMs in hockey take my guy.
Dammit!
“Can’t wait for DSF’s take”
fuzzy muppet,
Just the usual random I flagged that GM too. Shows how great I am.
Not a big surprise that he did not last to the 2nd.
I like Skeji. A project, but he has upside as a puck mover.
But knowing the Oilers, they’ll take Thrower.
Oh yeah. So all this talk leading up to the draft about improving the team through trades should have known nothing was going to happen.
Too bad about Samuelsson though, would have been what the Oilers were missing on the 3rd line.
Don’t worry, Samuelsson will come over in the Yandle deal. Hah.
Wasnt that Larionov that said that?
russ99,
From what i’ve read hew seems a lot like petry 2.0
now I hope they go forward…I wanted Henrik or Sjkei
If Feaster drafted the paperboy with the higher of his two picks.What will he do with the lower one?
Another project maybe?
The two picks may be the Boys from Brazil
Did anyone hear Stauffer say that he thought there was a chance Edmonton has the first two picks tomorrow?
Are the Oilers thinking Methot and a 2nd for Hemsky? Seems a little light
Belanger to Montreal?
Some pretty good players left, I like Finn and Aberg but there are good options like Thrower, Bozon, Collberg, Bystrom, etc
Improving the team through trades means acquiring ACTUAL NHL PLAYERS. It doesn’t mean using assests (whether picks or prospects) to move up 6 spots for more uncertain potential.
Even if the Oilers do make the pick at 32, they should still get someone good. Patience is a virtue.
Brownlee quoted mbs a couple days ago.
What happened to aberg? Too small?
danny,
Stu did as well:
http://oilersnation.com/2012/6/21/fthm-v-nail-yakupov
Matt Finn has been compared to Ryan Murray. Might be a pretty good second round pick.
Not sure I said trading picks and assets? If you have read any of my other comments over the weeks I have been saying draft either Yakupov or Galchenyuk and to also bring in SEASONED NHL defensemen. Just to clarify.
Good pick possible tomorrow. All the GM’s are there together with their staff, good time to stir up conversations.
So you have to think we’re going to get one of Colberg or Finn at this point depending on what Columbus does. That’s a pretty good situation to be in.
I think Finn’s the guy, with Thrower a close second. I’d be looking at Prokhorkin, but he could probably be had much later.
A fine, fine day. Thanks Stu.
Who is Ludvig Bystrom
So LT, Speeds, Spoiler, etc. Who would you take at 32 tomorrow?
Bob goes 27 for 30. Yea, I’d say he’s in the know.
columbus will take finn. edmonton will take thrower.
just a prediction.
what about Dansk?
I go forward again tomorrow. The prospect pool is thin and whomever you draft is years away. Replenish the forwards…
wordbird,
they could take Dansk but i think the Oilers are set on either Dubnyk or FA Goalies going forward.
wordbird,
plus with Bunz and Roy already in the system and developing well, i think taking a younger Goalie project isn’t a high priority.
http://hockeysymposium.blogspot.ca/2012/06/2012-top-30-and-some-general-draft.html
I would look to take Aberg,and if he’s gone then Finn or Bozon, but there are a number of guys I like pretty similarly at that point once you go beyond Aberg.
I’d take one of Aberg, Finn or Thrower. I’m not certain which one. Thrower is a WHL player and I always have a bias, so probably Finn is the better player.
Matt Finn NHL Central Scouting: 16 NAS, International Scouting Services: No. 18, The Hockey News: No. 18, Button’s Ranking: No. 9
Craig Button
Matthew is not going to show up in highlight videos on any type of a regular basis. It’s not in his game to be flashy but it is his game to be incredibly effective. That effectiveness translates into every area of the game and all of its situations. Simply put, he is a player who completes plays. He does it with the puck. Defensively in getting the puck out of danger. Offensively in reading the play and getting the puck to areas where his team can attack. He is superb in transition and can do it skating with the puck or passing the puck. He does it without the puck. He has very good body positioning and stick position where he can keep opponents at bay. His skating is strong in all regards and he asserts with his body & with excellent lower body strength and balance, he’s a hard player to gain an advantage on. He has excellent sense and understands what is unfolding and what the appropriate response should be. He has great poise playing and the challenges of the game do not faze him in any way. He is a player who makes teams stronger.
Sabastien Collberg
NHL Central Scouting: 3 ES, International Scouting Services: No. 13, The Hockey News: No. 14, Button’s Ranking: No. 27
TSN Scout Craig Button:
Sebastien can play in multiple offensive situations and contribute in different ways. He’s very versatile and is comfortable in a straight ahead skill game or one that is heavier with more physical play. He is a very good skater who can beat defenders 1-1 because he has a change of pace as well as having a desire to get offensive opportunities. He plays in traffic and maintains a focus despite knowing that he may be entering the danger zone. He has a very good focus offensively and is tenacious with the puck and he has the knack for getting the puck ‘settled down’ and in position to make a good shot. Despite not being a big player, he battles in traffic and along boards and doesn’t defer or take an easier path. He has good awareness and sense and can make plays and while he likes to shoot, he’s not one dimensional. He’s a reliable player in the sense that you know you will get his best efforts despite what the challenges or obstacles may be.
This is really just me advocating for the best players left on the board. Personally I’d be going with Collberg. I think we have quite a few guys like Finn in the system. We could use another prospective top 6 forward to push the guys we have.
fuzzy muppet,
i’d go D, and BPA. the chances of a second round forward developing into a top 6 forward aren’t great, and though Edmonton has a solid D prospect crop, they’re still only prospects and until some of them start developing into actual NHL players i think yo unwed to keep ratcheting up the probability of getting better on D by picking more of them.
Oddly enough, I think the biggest winners on the day are the Penguins.
With the Staal trade, they picked up a more suitable third line centre in Sutter and also walked away with two highly rated defensive prospects.
The Pens 25 and under defensive depth:
Chris Letang
Matt Niskanen
Simon Depres
Joe Morrow
Scott Harrington
Derrick Pouliot
Olli Maata
That’s just not fair.
If Tambellini leaves Pittsburgh without at least one actual NHL defenseman in tow, he should be shot.
In addition, Shero has also cleared cap space to take a run at Parise.
Jeebus.
DSF: Agreed. Great start to the weekend, but fix the blue.
Pontus Aberg vs. Matt Finn
PHX just picked up Michalek for a pretty decent price. He did have a NTC though, perhaps EDM inquired but he wasn’t willing to come to EDM?
Really glad the Oiler’s took Yak.
Well done 4.0, Mac and Lowe.
Taking Yak means they understand how the draft works and also understand future value.
I have to wonder why Finn and Collberg have fallen so far. They were #13 and 11 in the ISS rankings.
As for the two possible defense picks, Thrower is 5-11, Finn 6-0. Finn is more a dynamic rusher and powerplay QB and Thrower more a hitter/fighter and shutdown guy, but there are similarities in the their overall games.
Aberg and Bystrom have consistency/upside question marks, and could fall to the mid 2nd. Di Giuseppe is a freshman at Michigan so he’s at least 3 years away from the AHL.
Time for Stu to work his magic…
Yep.
The only way to do it now is through trade.
Hemsky and Gagner are really the only (somewhat) proven assets.
What would you do?
Sabastien Collberg
NHL Central Scouting: 3 ES, International Scouting Services: No. 13, The Hockey News: No. 14, Button’s Ranking: No. 27
TSN Scout Craig Button:
Sebastien can play in multiple offensive situations and contribute in different ways. He’s very versatile and is comfortable in a straight ahead skill game or one that is heavier with more physical play. He is a very good skater who can beat defenders 1-1 because he has a change of pace as well as having a desire to get offensive opportunities. He plays in traffic and maintains a focus despite knowing that he may be entering the danger zone. He has a very good focus offensively and is tenacious with the puck and he has the knack for getting the puck ‘settled down’ and in position to make a good shot. Despite not being a big player, he battles in traffic and along boards and doesn’t defer or take an easier path. He has good awareness and sense and can make plays and while he likes to shoot, he’s not one dimensional. He’s a reliable player in the sense that you know you will get his best efforts despite what the challenges or obstacles may be.
Exciting! He sounds like Omark 2.0.
Exciting! He sounds like Omark 2.0.
Will it be one of these players?
matt finn
Pontus Aberg
Ludvig Bystrom
Sebastian Collberg
Eh, I hope they don’t pick Thrower tomorrow that would be dissapointing. You want “physical defensemen” to be six two or three rather than five eleven. Button also notes that to play in the NHL he needs to improve his quickness and agility. If your less than six two and not quick and agile I do not forsee you having an NHL career.
The price of NHL defensemen seems low so far. A 2nd for Lubo,a prospect and a 3rd for michalek.
You did well doing the obvious tambo. Now get to work
I’d keep Hemsky and trade ganger for Vlasic contingent on extending him. Hall to center.
Better to get Vlasic for prospects given sharks cap situation.
C’mon..Everyone wanted Samuelsson. Take Frk!
i think columbus takes Finn. they could take Dansk but they just picked up a really young G in Bobrovsky so the die has been tossed and their needs are more immediate anyway.
so Edmonton takes Thrower.
Collberg isn’t a Dman and i don’t see either team going after him.
Well there you go.
In ONE DAY, Shero moved an excess asset, got a great return, drafted not one but TWO highly rated D prospects, cleared $6 million in cap space and is now positioned to take a run at Parise.
THAT is an NHL General Manager.
Salary dumps.
Smart GM’s do this all the time.
DSF,
all predicated on having an excess asset on the level of Jordan Staal. Edmonton is in a very different situation. different universe.
i’m up for damning evidence of tambellini’s inadequacy, but you’re going to have to find a GM with much less to work with in order to make a proper comparison.
they’re out there, but they aren’t in pittsburgh [which got where it is now following a path very similar to what the oilers are doing right now, btw]
Two top four Dmen picked up for futures basically. Add Michalek and Lubo to Oilers’ D and you have Smid/Petry, Schultz/Lubo, Whitney/Michalek. Replace Khabi, sign Smyth and you probably have a playoff team I think.
Veteran D can be had. Clubs are looking to move guys to free up cap space or roster spots. And you don’t have to give up Hemsky or Gagner to get them. And unless Schultz gets signed you’re not holding anyone kids back by taking their roster spot.
If they have their eye on the kid Schultz then pick up one top four D this weekend at least.
Today demonstrated that NHL general manager’s are stunningly bad at their jobs. It’s shocking really.
Michalek goes to PHX for 2 prospects and the 81st pick?
WTF?
He would have been perfect for the Oilers and the price isn’t dear.
He has a limited NTC (as Speeds mentioned) where he could namew 8 teams he wouldn’t go to, maybe EDM was on the list.
Damn. Very good price for a very good Dman.
V4.0 needs to make that kind of trade, and RFN.
m
While I agree the Oilers are on a different plane, doing nothing is hardly the alternative.
Had Bumbellini moved Hemsky when he had value we would be having a different discussion but that doesn’t mean he shouldn’t try to make a silk purse.
And, your assumption that the Oilers are following the same path as Pittsburgh is fatally flawed.
The Penguins loaded up on high end centres, who happen to have much more value than wingers, drafted a franchise goaltender and have been adding D like mad fools in the past several years.
They are now in (were) the position where they have too many centres, too many D and will no doubt now focus in finding wingers.
The Oilers have a brace of high end wingers, the worst centre depth this side of Columbus (why didn’t the Oilers take a run at Ribiero?) , the worst D in the league and a goaltending combo that is well below average.
You can’t get there from here.
Yandle is obviously now available.
Gagner and Paajarvi for Yandle?
tim Bozon: LW 6’1″ 180lb mar. 94 .70 chl point conversion.
1PPg X.7 =.7 x 82 GM =57P. potential 29G 28A player.
im is a highly skilled player. He has an ease to his skill and it is parlayed in his skating, puck handling and thought process. He has speed and quickness and he has no problems moving into the areas where he can use his skills and contribute offensively. He has very good poise with the puck and his awareness is good and he makes good plays that lead to scoring chances. He has a good shot and he’s able to get to the dangerous spots and take advantage. He’s learning how his skill can be of the initiating type in terms of imposing it on opponents and gaining increased chances. He plays a very controlled game in terms of not running around without purpose. He will benefit from maturity and that will help his confidence which can lead to being a very good NHL player. He has the potential to be that player because his skill is evident but he will need some time to pull everything together.
rickithebear,
Poise!!!
I’d like to see them take another forward at 32.
No fucking chance.
Yandle is a soft killer like Lubo and EDM doesn’t have soft minutes to spare.
They need tough minute D.
They need a goddam Michalek, Bouwmeester, Tyutin etc.
Edit: well past beer 1
rickithebear,
this is acceptable. forward ranks are thin
Woodguy,
I’ve got a feeling they are going to wind up with Methot.
With CBJ taking Murray today and trading for Johnson at the deadline I think they move a D man and clear some salary from the back end.
Just a hunch.
Good luck with that.
Michaelek is already gone, Jaybo won’t be moved for peanuts and I doubt Howson moves Tyutin without a top 6 forward coming back.
I likely don’t need to remind you who the Oilers top 6 are.
This is apparantly the official Oilers management first round pick theme song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXQgG98VSOs back from when the dinosaurs roamed the earth and Pat Quinn was a young man.
wtf
Have you never watched Yandle or are you that drunk?
Its pretty obvious you haven’t watched how he’s deployed.
Its ok, I expect that from you.
Carry on.
Tyutin has 6 years left and he ain’t nothing special. I doubt he brings back a top 6 forward unless a bad contract comes back.
They may move Tyutin given his contract. Methot is reasonable as well.
DSF,
Tyutin doesn’t bring back a top 6 F due to $ and term. Its too long and too much.
For 32 the Oilers should look at:
1. Finn – 2 way D who can play physical, has character and run the PP
2. Oscar Dansk – top rated goaler
3. Collberg – 5’11″ 174 LW but ranked by ISS at 11 and the Hockey News at 14.
4. Ludvig Bystrom Swede Dman with some offensive potential ISS had him at 22
5. Pontus Aberg – Swedish LW ISS # 15
6. Dalton Thrower – only 5-11″ but put up 54 pts in 66 games as a D and can throw them
Unfortunately all the Power forward types are taken. Only Kerdiles 6’2′LW or Martin Frk seem to be in the range. I’d like Frk better if he could stay healthy and if he wasn’t missing a vowel.
We agree on something Trak.
Quick! Change your post and opinion and shit talk me!
Just because a coach deploys a player a certain way doesn’t mean that’s the only situation he can play in.
I actually thought you were smarter than that.
My mistake.
I agreed with you last week when you said a 2C like Staal was Edmonton’s biggest or 2nd biggest need.
Brian Hart is a PF type a little farther down the line.
so i guess the oil will try
Hall Gagner Hemsky
Yakupov RNH Eberle
getting Yak to switch from RW to LW?
Here’s something for tomorrow…or maybe next week’s investigative reports.
Fussy Britches, Stauffer and Tencer all had the Oilers picking Murray. A deliberate smoke screen or a deliberate test of the fan base to see what the reaction might be and they changed their mind when they saw how negative the reaction was?
The last 3 seasons..
Yandle has averaged 47 points
Gagner has averaged 43 points
Yandle has missed 0 games
Gagner has missed 35 games
Yandle is +33
Gagner is -20
I would rather have Weber than Yandle but Gagner is no Hanzel and MPS was outscored by Brule.
That’s how I see them lining up as well.
Rounding out the top 9 is:
Smyth-Horcoff-x
Our host has been advocating a Pisani type and that’s where I would put him. Shane Doan would fit nicely there but fill in your own veteran 2 way RW.
Nuge’s line gets sheltered minutes and the 4th line needs some grit and can play NHL hockey.
edit-if they could move Horcoff I’d prefer that but I think we’re stuck with him for at least 1 more year
Craig Button had Finn as the 10th best player in the draft.
I think he had Bystrom either 17th or 19th.
Apparently you know that a player can handle tougher assignments than they’ve been given in the past. Do you work for the Oilers?
Your crystal ball is much better than mine.
Many players’ production falls off the cliff vs. Tougher assingments (see: Getzlaf)
Also,
I stated a few time that Gagner’s 10pts in the last 25gms playing with good players was a major disappointment. I see you agreed with that as we’ll.
Because he’s been deployed that way doesn’t mean that is his ceiling.
Yandle would become the Oilers best defenseman….tomorrow.
Then his contract would be certain death for the Oilers who are going to have to pay a bunch of kids a bunch of money real soon.
Gerta Rauss,
i don’t think Smyth will sign, and i think Jones slots in there.
but if Smyth does sign i think we see
Hall Gagner Hemsky
Yakupov RNH Eberle
Smyth Horcoff Jones
Eager Belanger Petrell
which is starting to look like a proper NHL team with the exception of C. poor Sam Gagner : [
striatic,
I’d like to see them improve on Jones and Belanger.I think they’re going to give Eager 1 more year.I was ambivelent to the Petrell signing the other day-I thought they could have done better especially at EVs-but here we are.
I think they’ll re-sign Smyth after July 1.
And yeah, C needs a lot of work.
Wonder if the Oil are waiting on Schultz before moving. I know Tambs is impulsive but I could see it being an irrational source of delay.
Yakupov up front with the other young’uns and a #3 powerplay manned by RNH would make me drool if I was an offensive dman breaking into the league looking to hit my bonus targets and looking for a big payday in two years. A stable of forwards like that is going to drive results, especially if they aren’t saddled with Barker-level players (the rung two below the Mendoza line).
I know DSF will be along shortly to point out that Schultz will prefer the reigning Stanley Cup champs with the Sedins up front and their gaping hole in the defence but Hall-Eberle-RNH-Yakupov has to look tempting to Schultz if he is serious about coming to Canada and it sounds like he is. Certainly a bigger sell than a pick of Murray or Reinhart.
also the possibility of ..
Hall Gagner Hemsky
Smyth RNH Eberle
Jones Horcoff Yakupov
Eager Belanger Petrell
with Hemsky seeing a trade mid season for C or D
A lot of 2nd pairing D would be the best D on the Oilers tomorrow.
Doesn’t mean that you should aim low.
Especially when the player has a $5MM tag.
DSF,
Whitney will be gone and other D aren’t making that for a while.
Not a good contract to be sure.
I’m sure playing with the Oilers young guns is tempting but The Canucks score more by a very wide margin.
If his motivation is to pile up points, Vancouver would be a much better situation.
That may not be his motivation.
I don’t think there is a better defenseman than Yandle available.
DSF
Re the Canucks. Their two elite forwards are 31. They have a 2-3 window before they become the Calgary Flames.
If I’m Schultz and I want a place to play on a team going up after I am 25 years old, I pick the Oilers.
Judging from what’s happened, I hope they move 32 + for an NHL defenseman capable of playing tough minutes.
Sign schultz (fingers crossed) and acquire Frolik somehow. Move Belanger and get a depth C like Konopka.
Then add a capable goaler and they may make the playoffs
fuzzy muppet,
Yup-Frolik would fit nicely.
I think Belanger will be moved-even VV in that 4C spot in the short term works for me.
Stauffer said that with the Islanders getting Vishnovsky that Streit would be in play, and that he is buds with Krueger from their Swiss days.
He has also hinted the Oilers may be after Paul Martin or some other 4-5 million dman on a cap or budget strapped team.
If I am Schultz, I consider the Oilers if the four primary things I am looking for are:
1. An opportunity to step in right away.
2. A Canadian city.
3. An opportunity to pile up points on a roster with few enough D that I can quickly become the highest paid defencemen on the roster.
4. Several chances to win the cup over a long period of time.
See, if I was Schultz, I would be concerned about dropping to 5 or 6 on the depth chart, having too many other good D men to be truly get paid. Would it be enough to put me off the Canucks altogether? No, but I can see circumstances under which he might prefer Edmonton.