5:15 (25)

The Edmonton Oilers haven’t been around a long time in historic terms but have a 40 years of interesting back pages. If you’ve been around long enough, you experience the ebbs and flows, good times and bad. Sometimes, a team’s fortunes seem to turn on a single event.

  • February 12, 1972: D Allan Hamilton selected by Alberta (WHA) in 1972 WHA General Player Draft. Hamilton would anchor the Oilers blue throughout their WHA seasons (72-79) and gave the team offensive punch too, scoring 44 or more points in a season five times. Hamilton’s signing ushered in the first phase of the Oilers and although he was a spent force when the club earned its NHL stripes, Hamilton and those WHA men paved the way for the team we enjoy and obsess over to this day.

  • November 24, 1987: D Paul Coffey is traded to Pittsburgh by Edmonton with Dave Hunter and Wayne Van Dorp for Craig Simpson, Dave Hannan, Moe Mantha and Chris Joseph. 15 years after the Hamilton acquistion, the Oilers–a glory team in 1987 on their way to their fourth Stanley the following spring–dealt defender Paul Coffey. Although the club would also win in 1990, Coffey’s exit was a major turning point in the history of the club. Not only couldn’t they keep ALL of their gifted soldiers, as it turned out they couldn’t keep ANY of them.

  •  July 1, 2012: Edmonton Oilers sign college free agent D Justin Schultz. 25 years after trading Paul Coffey the Edmonton Oilers score a major win. Justin Schultz–as if he doesn’t have enough pressure–may represent a turn in fortune, a change in direction, a return to glory.

25 years from now I hope to be here, and we can remember the 5 Stanley’s from the past and 5 more to come (hey, we can dream). Sports franchises don’t really shift that much over a decade or two or even a century, but one of the common themes of success is strong ownership and success in procurement of gifted young players. We shouldn’t expect Justin Schultz to be Paul Coffey or even Allan Hamilton (who was a quality defenseman) but acquiring this player without giving up a player or pick is a major turning point–especially after the team’s free agent experiences since 2006 summer.

NATION RADIO

We have a cool group joining us for the show today at noon on TEAM 1260. Please send your questions via the comments section, nationradio@theteam1260.com or via twitter @Lowetide_ or @ItsNationRadio. Scheduled to appear:

  • Jonathan Willis, the hardest working man on the internet! Jon took a vacation recently and the internet dropped dead. Seriously. Well he’s back and mystifying, stupifying, enraging, engaging and turning out about one dozen articles an hour. We’ll force him to put down his tablet and spend some quality time with us.
  • Kirk Luedeke from NEHJ and Redline Report. Our man Kirk guided us through the winter and spring with draft tidbits and now we’ll spend a few minutes looking back on winners and losers. I think you’ll be surprised by some of his takes.
  • Cam Davie, Tinfoil Tuque from Canucks Army. We’re going to talk the hell out of hockey, but we’ll also discuss Cam’s involvement in ROAD HOCKEY TO CONQUER CANCER and his inspiration for it. If you haven’t read the story, please follow the link and get the back story. You won’t regret it.
  • David Staples from Cult of Hockey. We’ll talk arena, team building, free agency, draft and more with David and maybe look back a little too.
  • Jeff Krushell from Krush Sports Performance. Jeff will guide us through a few health related questions in regard to recovery and we’ll also discuss the possible lockout and how that might impact training, preparation and returning from injury.

Looking forward to it, hope you can join Connor Halley and me.

 

 

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30 Responses to "5:15 (25)"

  1. Romulus Apotheosis says:

    That old Hamilton jersey is a peach. Does he even have any rudimentary pads on under that thing?

    We should bring back the stripes at the elbows, but I’m glad we’ve got the orange and blue going rather than copper or what appears to be red.

    I only hope Schultz’ coming portends a great run of championships without the heartache of losing all our core at the height of our powers.

  2. Clay says:

    The sense I get from those of us who well remember the dismantling of the glory team is that the fear of it happening again casts a large shadow on the excitement of the new group of phenoms. This, in large part, due to the fact that the men managing the team have shown little more than the ability to build last-place teams and win lotteries.

    For me, the landing of J. Schultz represents the first purely positive move by management and says that they may be able to bring a contending team to town. And maybe, just maybe, they can find a way to keep one or more of these fantastic kids around for the majority of their careers.

  3. jake70 says:

    Found money –

    1.Winning the draft lottery.
    2. JS choosing Edmonton.

    I found myself reading up on James Cameron the other day and saw that he descended to the deepest known part of any ocean in a 1 man sub, some 11km down, in the south pacific back in March, placed called the Challenger Deep. On the way down he wasn’t sure but he thought he saw the Oilers slowly ascending, confirmed when he reached the Ocean floor and saw an Oilers flag planted.

  4. Lowetide says:

    Gord Mark down there?

  5. Thinker says:

    Schultz was signed june 30. Remember, it was on the end of nation radio.

  6. Noodles says:

    Thinker:
    Schultz was signed june 30. Remember, it was on the end of nation radio.

    I think June 30th was the day he chose the Oilers, but he didn’t actually sign the contract until July 1st.

  7. Lowetide says:

    Yes, he signed at about 9am on Sunday morning. Smyth news later that morning and not a lot since aside from rfa’s.

  8. Bruce McCurdy says:

    Lowetide:
    Yes, he signed at about 9am on Sunday morning. Smyth news later that morning and not a lot since aside from rfa’s.

    How could you forget the Darcy Hordichuk signing? Unlike Smyth (and Petrell) Hordi was technically UFA by the time he re-signed. Other than that it’s been Jake70′s “found money” and a whole lot of navel-gazing. Barring a trade this roster has had less turnover than some of those Stanley Cup champions you referenced above.

  9. OilLeak says:

    Tambellini will dither to the end of time.

    Tambellini to the media: We need defense!

    Other NHL GM’s: Sure, we’ll trade you a top 4 defenseman, but we’ll need some good players and prospects in return. Like a Paajarvi, and Musil.

    Tambellini to the media: We’re set for next season!

  10. TheOtherJohn says:

    I seriously wonder if Tambellini does not understand that if this team ends up out of thr playoff mix by late February that he will be the one fired? So he has an awful lot invested in the kids improving significantly. Absent noticeable improvement by that group, we have the exact same team, plus Yak and JSchultz.

  11. godot10 says:

    OilLeak:
    Tambellini will dither to the end of time.

    Tambellini to the media: We need defense!

    Other NHL GM’s: Sure, we’ll trade you a top 4 defenseman, but we’ll need some good players and prospects in return. Like a Paajarvi, and Musil.

    Tambellini to the media: We’re set for next season!

    Columbus couldn’t get a top 4 defenseman for Rick Nash. You are dreaming if you think you are going to get a top 4 defenseman for Paajarvi and Musil.

    Brett Burns went for Setoguchi, Coyle, and a 1st round pick. Goligoski went for James Neal.and Matt Niskenen.

  12. HBomb says:

    Bruce McCurdy: Barring a trade this roster has had less turnover than some of those Stanley Cup champions you referenced above.

    Bruce: Wasn’t that a Sather “rule of management”? 20 percent turnover every off-season to keep the mix from getting stale?

    Lowetide: No Expos-mention today of the 21st anniversary of “El Presidente, el perfecto”? Shame on you. I’m rocking the baby-blue Martinez retro jersey today in honor of said watershed event.

  13. D says:

    I heard that Coffey guy was a pretty good player.

  14. godot10 says:

    OilLeak:
    Tambellini will dither to the end of time.

    Tambellini to the media: We need defense!

    Other NHL GM’s: Sure, we’ll trade you a top 4 defenseman, but we’ll need some good players and prospects in return. Like a Paajarvi, and Musil.

    Tambellini to the media: We’re set for next season!

    All Nick Foligno (a more proven player than Paajarvi) got Ottawa was what people here were calling a 3rd pairing defenseman in Marc Methot.

    A top 4D is going to cost Gagner or Hemsky.

    Which is why Tambellini is waiting for teams who might get into cap trouble who might be wanting to dump someone at a discount.

  15. Lowetide says:

    HBomb: One of my very favorite sports memories.

  16. Lowetide says:

    Man these cougar ads are getting more aggressive. “Save a cougar!”

  17. Bruce McCurdy says:

    godot10:

    Which is why Tambellini is waiting for teams who might get into cap trouble who might be wanting to dump someone at a discount.

    I did say “barring a trade” earlier, but didn’t complete my thought, that a trade is possible, even likely, but not until after the new CBA helps define who is in cap hell. Pretty sure Oilers will still be good in that respect, but there’ll be some teams looking to clear a reasonable defender out for cap/budget reasons.

    Whatever you might say about Tambellini’s internal hirings this summer, there is lots of flexibility on the roster. Beyond the Horcoff contract (which was signed before ST’s arrival), only Omark is unsigned, while every other player is under contract but comes due in either 2013 or ’14 (Yakupov also excepted), has a cap hit at $5 MM or below, and does not have a NTC/NMC. That seems to me to be a good situation from which to trade. (Now if only other teams might want players that we consider expendable!) Still, Oilers are in position to trade one or more signed roster players who are likely quite a bit cheaper than a proven player with a big ticket that might come the other way.

  18. Rebilled says:

    Speaking of #19, who all has worn that great # for oil? FOROIL!

    Ok, maybe they get 27th place*.

    *predictions based on getting punched in the cojones for 3 straight years.

  19. JamKaz says:

    Congrats on the Advertisement!! I get my Oil fix from your blog when the nation is slow.

  20. Schitzo says:

    Lowetide:
    Man these cougar ads are getting more aggressive. “Save a cougar!”

    I married one, am I helping?

  21. gcw_rocks says:

    Edmonton Oilers. Striving for 12th and proud of it.

  22. stevezie says:

    godot10: Columbus couldn’t get a top 4 defenseman for Rick Nash.You are dreaming if you think you are going to get a top 4 defenseman for Paajarvi and Musil.

    Brett Burns went for Setoguchi, Coyle, and a 1st round pick.Goligoski went for James Neal.and Matt Niskenen.

    This is inaccurate on at least two levels.

    First of all, CBS couldn’t get a top 4 defenceman for Nash the way I was unable to get paid in Schrimp cocktails at work today – it wasn’t what either of us were after. CBS’ defence is actually pretty good- or at least defence. What they wanted was forwards.

    Secondly, your two examples are of guys who are a #2 defenceman and a #1 defenceman, respectively. (If you’d like to argue that Goiligoskui would only be a #2 n most teams I’d say that’s debatable but possible, but either way he’s no worse than #2, right?)

    My point is no one is dreaming. MPS and Musil for Sekera is a wide-awake deal; I’d even call it an overpay.

    I do agree with you that Tambo is waiting for a perfect trading partner rather than chasing the perfect player. I think this is the right call.

  23. Schitzo says:

    stevezie:

    I was unable to get paid in Schrimp cocktails at work today – it wasn’t what either of us were after.

    I think I speak for all of us when I ask… why would you not want that? It sounds delicious.

  24. stevezie says:

    I just realised how I spelled that. Robbie lives on!

  25. "Steve Smith" says:

    Schitzo,

    Too much banana hammock, presumably.

  26. godot10 says:

    stevezie: This is inaccurate on at least two levels.

    First of all, CBS couldn’t get a top 4 defenceman for Nash the way I was unable to get paid in Schrimp cocktails at work today – it wasn’t what either of us were after. CBS’ defence is actually pretty good- or at least defence. What they wanted was forwards.

    Secondly, your two examples are of guys who are a #2 defenceman and a #1 defenceman, respectively. (If you’d like to argue that Goiligoskui would only be a #2 n most teams I’d say that’s debatable but possible, but either way he’s no worse than #2, right?)

    My point is no one is dreaming. MPS and Musil for Sekera is a wide-awake deal; I’d even call it an overpay.

    As if Columbus was not asking for Del Zotto.

    Buffalo has Vanek, Ennis, Leino, Ott and Foligno on LW. They aren’t going to trade you Sekera for Paajarvi.

  27. PDO says:

    godot10: Columbus couldn’t get a top 4 defenseman for Rick Nash.You are dreaming if you think you are going to get a top 4 defenseman for Paajarvi and Musil.

    Brett Burns went for Setoguchi, Coyle, and a 1st round pick.Goligoski went for James Neal.and Matt Niskenen.

    And Tommy Gilbert went for a third pairing D!!!!!!!!

    …. wait what?

  28. Schitzo says:

    “Steve Smith”:
    Schitzo,

    Too much banana hammock, presumably.

    We both know that’s impossible, Steve. Quit trolling.

  29. stevezie says:

    godot10,

    So we’re allowed to consider Buffal’s depth chart but not CBS’? Their need was not at defence.

  30. Ribs says:

    Man, I wonder if we could get Gretz, Mess, Kurri, and Coffey signed long term today.#pensproblemsbyemess

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