OILERS SIGN YANN DANIS
I’m fine with this deal, offers the team some insurance and based on Danis’ AHL season in 11-12 he certainly could supplant Khabibulin as backup.
THE SHOPPING LIST
- A top pairing defenseman capable of delivering big minutes at evens and at least one of PK and PP. 20+ overall. The range of player rumors in this category is vexing. Marc Methot is not going to fill this role, but he is rumored to be the player headed here. Bryan Allen and Mark Streit have also been rumored to Edmonton.
A better Renney.I think yesterday was a very big day for Krueger. Based on reports, the key moments in the Schultz negotiations came when the new coach gave his vision and Schultz plus Hall started riffing on the possibilities. I imagine an Allman Brothers-style jam session that resulted in absolute magic. Can’t wait to see the vision on the ice.Justin Schultz or similar. Huge item for the Oilers. Should he emerge as a top 4, 35+ point defenseman who can handle reasonable opposition and remain in the black, Edmonton’s hard work this past week will sustain them for a decade on the blue. Brilliant.- An established 2-way winger to mentor the young players who will compete for bottom 6 roles (Lander, Hartikainen, Pitlick, etc). Winnik is my choice here, but the Oilers may have someone else in mind. I always say Pisani but maybe this man is a center.
Ryan Smyth or similar.The extra year was the issue but the price tag is excellent. I think those who believe Smyth’s value to this team is low badly misunderstand what he can do for this team. They need to back off his special team minutes but this is a quality signing. BeautyA reasonable goaltending option for the Khabibulin free fall. Danis is a solid option, his .924SP with the Barons a year ago was safely inside the AHL’s top 10 and he gives the club excellent insurance. A solid signing.- Get the rfa’s signed. Did a good job qualifying, but the Oilers often trade kids in this situation and Gagner isn’t out of the woods yet. Happy Omark was qualified, doubt he plays as an Oiler again.
- Crust. I added this one because Edmonton clearly plans on upgrading the Eager/Hordichuk group from a year ago. Names I’ve seen are Tootoo and Parros.
This is great news. Yann deserves some NHL games too though this year. Goal seems to be set for today / this season.
I hope Kreuger is working the phones today. At least one more defenseman and some role playing forwards please.
Happy Canada Day!
Like this signing. LT I disagree about getting a D, would rather let some of your prospects play. They also have Peckham, who is a better option then Methot IMO.
do we know $ and term? also, happy canada day everyone!
i’m still hoping that theodore squeezes out of FLA. i’d like him over rekhab
Archie: Methot was certainly not my choice, but he’s been heavily rumored
A good all around start for v4.0 (MacT). Smyth on a reasonable term and Danis as insurance for a broken down Russian.
So far so good.
Lowetide,
I understand some media people think if the Oilers get another D they could make the playoffs. That’s not going to happen unless they fix the size problem in their top 6. Over a 7 game series, Edmonton doesn’t have a chance against bigger teams like Canucks or the Kings.
Man Ray Ferraro and Pierre are hilarious… Ferraro keeps swatting down Pierre’s nonsense
So with Tambellini telling media that there is as much available on the trade front as UFA’s, who do they target? O expect a Dman, just hope we don’t blow it up. WOuld we be happy with Hemsky for Tyutin? Or is that too much of a step back? If yo make that deal then add Colby Armstrong, are you a better team?
If they’re trading Hemsky it better be an outstanding defenseman, that’s all I’m saying.
Lowetide,
Agreed. Would Tyutin fit? Doubt it. Howson may be only guy to pay close to full value on Hemsky since he’s seen him good.
Well I like Tyuton plenty even with the contract, but value Hemsky highly.
This. on both counts.
Lowetide,
If they want to trade Hemsky and get value they’ll have to play him and that means him getting top 6 minutes.
Monster signs in Detroit. 2 years $1.5 mill per. Solid for Wings. They are just good.
Was talking with Mr. Katz today and this is what he had to say to me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9G18qHPhcM
David Moss to PHX is good for them (poor Doan insurance).
Probably decreases a Yandle availability.
Don’t want to move Hemsky+ but could he get Marleau+Demers from San Jose?
I was talking to to Jok today, here’s what he said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxLFXnj9Nz8
(oop, oop…)
Agreed, but let’s not freak out too much. Hemsky’s been rumoured before and hasn’t gone anywhere. They would’ve moved him at the deadline if they got the return they wanted. That they didn’t indicates that they don’t have an overly low value on him.
No player is untradeable. I’d happily trade Jordan Eberle – if the return was a signed Weber. The Oilers are doing a good job through June – let’s cut them a little slack.
Ryan Rishaug is out to lunch when he mention that the Oilers would trade Hemsky for Hammer or Methot.
Hemsky for Stafford? Would anyone do it? Balances out our top 9 and adds some size. Lose skill though. MAn would be hard to deal hemsky
Would pass on Stafford, takes too many nights off.
The only deal that sort of makes sense to me is Hemsky for Bouwmeester.
I don’t kmow if I like that deal. And I know it won’t happen. But it would help both clubs immensely in areas that they need help. Calgary would get a tough minutes forward who really passes and play makes., He adds offense and can free up Iginla for easier minutes. Edmonton would get the D-man they need. I’m guessing Edmonon would have to add to the deal for a variety of reasons:Hemsky’ s injuries, D-men are worth more in general, etc.
Or what about Hemsky for Umberger? Save some money. Tough gritty LW with 20-25 goals and he sticks up for teammates. Be a perfect fit on the 2nd line
What about Plante and Omark for Methot? That’s the latest unconfirmed rumour out of ol’ Treena. I don’t put any stock in it, but that’s the kind of price that I’m certainly okay with.
I know we all love Eberle and Yakupov, but Hemsky can face the toughs and come out well, those younger guys need to develop before taking on the difficult minutes. The 2-year deal is a nice transition. Eberle would have a different season as #1 RW imo.
Oh, and the following should be required reading for anyone before praising or condemning any signing:
http://oilersnation.com/2012/7/1/free-agency-its-a-70-million-cap-world-now
Lowetide,
Agreed, but he just keeps getting mentioned. If we can get Methot for prospects not names the Musil, Klefbom, Gernat or Mairincin then great. Keep Hesmky dammit, Why are we scared of 3 actual lines
I am fine with DD, Bulin, Danis, Roy, Bunz. One of the latter three will likely be ready by the trade deadline, allowing the Oilers to then flip Bulin for a pick.
I am worried about trading Hemsky after his brutal year. Its going to be hard to get good value.
Coles notes on Mehot?
Can he play as a 2nd pairing?
I think that argument about sums it up for me.
Also, if you look at his contract relative to the cap, it’s a reasonable gamble.
Methot is a salary dump with Columbus and some media people think the Oilers could get him cheap, do you pay a 3rd pairing D 3mil a year and that has a 50/50 chance of not making the team.
That’s cheap for Methot. I’d still rather put my energy into something more impactful.
Hemsky… he is constantly undervalued by people. He can play the toughs despite his “body language”
if he gets traded we better get immense value and hope Eberle’s exposure to the crunch goes better than expected.
I sincerely hope the Oilers have set their sights higher than Marc Methot.
Unless it costs them Peckham.
Well, if they’re looking to trade Hemsky to Columbus, then maybe they can get Jeff Carter in the exchange. Good tough minutes centre that we could desparately need.
konopka to wild for 2 yrs. likes him as a 4th line option. OUr Div getting tougher. Expect coke machines to the Oil soon
No to Hemsky trade for me. I don’t want to have to go through that again.
Cactus,
You know Carter just won a cup with LA right?
It would seem to me with the Oilers new line up , Hemsky and Gagner should have better numbers this year and the price goes up for them.
LAtendresse in Ottawa for physical. That would be a solid signing. Lots of upside if his head is right. WOuld be nice to see him here as a 2LW option.
Is Columbus a good trading partner for us?
I wonder if the Jagr rumours are true. Would it be better to keep or trade Hemsky if you can get JJ?
Keep Hemsky.
I think the tsn roundtable just picked the bones off Semin… they literally left nothing on that guy…
“body language” experts doing their thing once more.
I don’t know how to respond to this without sounding overly sarcastic and mean, so I’ll simply say yes, I am aware.
The bigger point is that a strong centre on a good contract is exactly the sort of return I’d be looking for. A top 2-3 defenceman would also be worthwhile, but I’m hesitant to take on a bad contract there.
I think Tyutin is worth it for the Oil to 1) mentor for Yak, 2) overpaid but legit top 4, so probably cost very little 3) Katz can afford to bury him in OKC ala Redden when his contract becomes a problem and he might then go to the KHL then.
Much better than Methot.
ESPN is reporting that the Oilers have signed Chris Campoli, any truth to it.
I think he’s getting a bum rap but both Macguire and Ferraro do sit between the benches during the games and probably see and hear all kinds of things on that bench. Plus Semin does seem like a donkey whose tail keeps falling off at random times.
campoli. really. that wold be interesting.
colby armstrong to Montreal. Nice pick up if it’s low money.
DBO,
Sounds like 1mil/yr
$1 mill is a great deal.
Latendresse to Ottawa as well, $1.2M. Seems like the injury risks are flying fast and for low dollars.
Campoli? Fernando must have made the call if it plays out that way.
If they’d flush Khabby would people like a guy like Hedberg for a backup?
Campoli wouldn’t make much sense. Doubt it.
Ray Whitney to Dallas for $9M over 2 years. Yikes.
Ray Whitney signs with Dal 2yr/9mil
Aaron Ward@aaronward_nhl
Ray Whitney agreed to terms w/ Dallas Stars at $9 million over 2 years. It is $4 million salary and $500000 in bonuses each year
Holy crap. That’s a lot of cheddar.
I know the Oil have made 3 smart moves so far, but history tells us….
Campoli is no better than Potter, maybe worse.
Latendresse to Ottawa
That Whitney deal is big… 2 years??? I’m kind of glad we stayed away.
Semin… I get it. He isn’t a “character” guy and he doesn’t seem to backcheck. yadayada
but man… he scores goals in the NHL. How do they so thoroughly ignore that, like it’s nothing?
Kevin Lowe must be involved
Archie,
And that new guy…what’s his name…
With Ray Whitney leaving Phoenix, does Phoenix become a good trading partner with Edmonton concerning Gagner.
Campoli doesn’t seem to be much of anything… deep, deep into the depth?
jfry,
Per TSN, 1 year and $775K. Not sure if it’s one- or two- way (I’d guess one-), but I don’t think it much matters to anybody but Danis and Katz.
Oilers go with skill, the rest of the NW division teams reply by stacking up on tough guys and goons…
Archie,
Or Hemsky if the smoke means fire. Hemsky and a prospect for Yandle? Don’t like it, but wouldn’t be shocked by it.
Great! Oilers will lead the league inPP goals.
I think Phoenix might be dead. Expecting mass exodus today.
I would think the Oilers are hot after Parros…
Olli Jokinen please.
2 years @ $7 million.
Make it so.
Lowetide,
I seem to remember last year the refs ate their whistles with the Oilers, remember Renney and his comment about the league and the LA kings
2 hours of nothing so far.
You have to get players who can actually play. From what I’ve seen the NW is loading up on enforcer types, well and Zanopka can win faceoffs. Last I checked Oilers still had Eager, who was supposed to change the world a year ago.
I don’t expect much for a bit for the Oil since they seem to be focused on trades. Those usually shake out later in the day
The Oilers should hold off on the centre this summer. Malkin will be on the market next summer like Jordan Staal was this summer.
If you build it, Malkin will come.
Ryan Rishaug@TSNRyanRishaug
Contrary to some reports, Justin Schultzs parents do not have Canucks season tickets. #tsn
Vancouver propaganda. Luckily flyers dropped from airplanes make a good fire starter.
Whitney has averaged 22 goals and 66 points over the past 5 seasons.
That’ll get you $4M a year all day long everywhere.
Steve MacIntyre is out of the picture, signs with Pittsburgh
What about Prust then? At least he can kill penalties as well as take a regular shift and hits a ton. Be a perfect 4th liner for us.
Would you trade Hemsky for Mark Streit ?
Glad to see he got a 2 year deal, even if it’s 2-way. Good guy. I’m glad we’re not trying to play him anymore, but it’s nice to see someone paying him.
Rondo,
With the Oilers getting Schultz, Streit is not a option anymore.
Boyes signs a 1 yr $1 mill deal fr the Rags. Wow. Solid deal for the money.
Gret99zky,
I mean, he grew up an Oilers fan, so it seems unlikely his parents were hardcore Canucks fans. But stranger things have happened (most of my family are Leafs fans…)
Mark Streit and Josh Bailey.
sorry, was it the Isles?
On another note (since free agency day’s been a bit of a snoozer):
I haven’t seen any commentary about the first post-glory days Oiler being admitted to the HHOF. Think he’ll go in in Oilers’ silks?
Rondo,
Nope.
"Steve Smith",
Smyth?
Gret99zky,
Contrary to some reports, Justin Schultzs parents do not have Canucks season tickets. #tsn
Vancouver propaganda.Luckily flyers dropped from airplanes make a good fire starter.
just popped in to post that… It would seem a lot of empty talk about this kid got flown around. Seems like a stand-up kid too… shame.
lol. Oates?
Michael Russo @Russostrib
Konopka tells me if Koivu & Heatley want to sit down and read the paper at center ice, they should be able to w/o anyone touching em #mnwild
"Steve Smith",
Oates?
no way… which team he picks will be interesting though.
Lowetide,
I know, I was just being silly. I actually asked a similar Q a few days ago about the Oilers retiring 77…but realized how silly the Q was when I was berated about Tom Gilbert
Riley Holzapfel is off the market as well. DAMMIT!
I wonder if Ponikarovsky would be a good pickup. Thoughts?
Pending trades / signings
We’re looking at
Nuge-Hall-Eberle
Gagner-Hartikinen/PRV-Yakupov
Horcoff-Smyth-Hemsky
Belanger-Eager-Jones
Thoughts…
Line 1: done.
Line 2: I’d like an upgrade on Gagner or a legit 2LW with some size / two way play. As much as I’d like an upgrade on Gagner, in the back of my mind I still have memories of Gagner jailbreaking hands of stone Cogliano.
Line 3: Former #1 line for the Oilers. Lots of years playing together. No physical presence and the Comrade is on a decline. Hemsky on the 3rd is hard to wrap your head around, but it could be a solid hard minutes line.
Line 4: Can someone convince me that there will be 15 teams in the league with a better 4rth line than Belanger-Eager-Jones? I’d rather run with this line and focus on getting a legit 2 LW or upgrade on Gagner.
Can you count to 50 contracts?
Jokinen was the 19th highest scoring center in the league last season, ahead of Weiss, Getzlaf, O’Reilly, Plekanec, Stasny and Legwand. He’s also probably the best center available in free agency this year.
I doubt he’s going anywhere for less than $5M per season
He will be on the waiver wire in September if you want him.
Like him, haven’t looked too closely though.
Ribs,
Doesn’t PK. but he hits, he has size and decent hands. And a russian to babysit Yak is prob a good idea. He could fit on the 2 LW
Marc,
Jokinen would be a stellar signing.
From what I can recall, he seemed to still have plus foot speed even at his age.
If it’s a 2 year deal, then it’s harmless in terms of cap vs fab four contracts. Throw some money at him.
Ah gotcha.
But but but who will babysit the KID
Jokinen. 2 years $5.5M per year. We need center depth and Belanger/Gagner + could be packaged to get the D done.
Just sayin. It’s only a 300km move for Olli the Oiler.
rumours on calgary sports radio is that joki wanted 5 years at $5m per.
I know…it sounds ridiculous. he was also junk down the stretch, for what it’s worth.
I asked black dog about him during Penner’s run for team Canada’s Olypmic squad. IIRC, black dog said that he’s solid 2 way, big but not particularly physical and puts up points. That was back in the Quinn years though. Expect some decline.
jfry,
Jokinen is not well regarded in Calgary from what I understand. However, he was playing the toughest QOC in the league on a basement squad without much support.
In Edmonton, he would have a different role
DBO,
Ponikarovsky is Ukrainian
So it sounds like Ponikarovsky could possibly be a fit for LT’s #4 bullet point. Interesting.
Professor Q,
My bad. Sorry to insult the Ukranian crowd. Doesn’t he play for russia in tourneys?
On the RDS special they said Jagr is going to either Edmonton and Montreal. My French might be rusty though.
Nope. just looked, he played for Ukraine.
Ryan,
every fan of the flames down here says that jokinen was the best forward on the squad last year. not many (rational) fans would say otherwise.
i agree that there seems to be some friction though. the locker room sounds like it was a bunch of egos. shoulda kept dion.
Down Goes Brown @DownGoesBrown
Already 27 signings today, although that number’s a little inflated since half of them have been Matt Carkner.
I want to look at either jason arnott or maybe oli jokinen as 3line center. Big, strong, veteran, two way center with good faceoff capability. Don’t know that either would like shift in role, but they would look damn good in copper and blue. Also like allen + a top four dman but that really starts to cloud the bottom of the depth chart.
5 years for Olli the Oiler is too much.
2 years max and no more than $5.5M.
3 years $13M I do that.
Incarcerated Bob @incarceratedbob
**BREAKING NHL NEWS**Source: Preds “D-Man” Suter has narrowed his choices down to 3 teams : Flyers / Red Wings / Darkhorse #Canucks
no to Jokinen. Just say no.
I’m still waiting for the other shoe to drop with teams like Florida. There’s a lot of money out there that HAS to be spent for some teams to hit the floor of $54M. I wonder if we’ll see some big overpays later today.
Cactus,
The isles need tons. They will be this years Florida. Could be a bowmeester landing spot
stick with Belanger, Horcoff, Gagner, and Lander right?
The Oilers already have 2 centres well over 30. They don’t need a 3rd one on a retirement contract. Jokinen played reasonably well in a contract year. Only a sucker or a team needing to reach the cap floor is going to offer him real dollars.
Any contract to Jokinen would eliminate the Oilers ability to participate in the Malkin auction next summer.
godot10,
Trade a few pylons for draft picks.. .50 contract problem solved
Gret99zky,
Not saying we shouldn’t consider an upgrade. Just not him. I do not like Jokinen.
Ribs,
That might make a lot of sense.
I’m also wanting to beat the drum on Patrick Marleau. San Jose wants a “culture change” and he would be an underrated center. I like Gagner but think he needs a change of scenery.
They’re trying to add big grit and crust, bet the list now includes Parros, Tootoo via UFA and Methot, Dorsett, and other types via trade from what we’re reading.
Actually, the Isles should be all right. They already have 10F, 6D and 2G for $47M in cap commitments. The DiPietro contract and Yashin buyout help them a bunch.
Once they fill out their roster, they should be fine. Anaheim and Nashville will have work to do, especially if Bobby Ryan leaves and Suter can’t be resigned. And who the hell knows what’s going on in Phoenix these days.
godot10,
Pittsburgh will give Malkin a lifetime contract. He’ll be sticking around there. The Oilers would never be in any UFA bidding for him given the flood of young talent they have.
If they’re not in on a guy like Suter now, they’re certainly not going after Malkin.
Jokinenn is not enough of an upgrade on Gagner. Huge – player. Played top end minutes. yes he did it well, but considering we’ll need to pay him $2 mill more then Gagner, he is much older does not kill penalties and is as shitty as Gagner on the dot. How is that a huge improvement? Gagner will get sheltered minutes with top end wingers this year. He will get 60 pts, which at this point is a high water mark for Jokinen, but for $2 mill less.
Archie,
You said make the playoffs, not win a series.
Lowetide,
Is Methot an improvement over Peckham?
Jokinen:
2011 gp79 g17 a37 pts54
2012 gp82 g23 a38 pts61
I like his chance of pushing Horcoff and Belanger down the line-up.
Pittsburgh offered Jordan Staal effectively a lifetime contract also. Doesn’t work if the player refuses to sign it.
Malkin will pull a Jordan Staal next summer.
jonrmcleod,
I know, still recovering from a Eskimo hangover.
The thing about Staal though is that he was bumped to #3 time because of Crosby and Malkin. In addition to seeking more offensive playing time, he wanted to play with his brother in Carolina.
What would motivate Malkin in this manner? I just don’t see it.
Might not Malkin want to be the #1 guy somewhere and be out of Sidney’s shadow.
Filip Kuba 2yr/8mil Panthers, things are getting ridiculous
Tallon the great Kuba 2 year and 4M per. Wow. Like that player but….
Since Gagner entered the league he has averaged 47 points per 82. Jokinen is averaging 57 over the same time span.
He wouldn’t be my first choice when it comes to addressing Edmonton’s center position but he is better than Gagner, Horcoff and Belanger.
I would try to trade for Dubinsky. He has a much wider range of skills than Gagner and his career high in goals and points is better than Gagner as well.
Gagner ++ to CBus
Nash to NY
Dubinsky to Edmonton
Kuba, 2 years, $4M per to Florida. THERE’S the overpays we’ve been waiting for.
godot10,
Why? Does he have a brother he wants to play with too?
Wondering if Fussy Britches could be a member of the “Oil Change” production team…
It’s not impossible to have 1A and 1B centres. Malkin’s not starved for prime minutes and playing time. It’s not like Messier didn’t get to play when Gretzky was here.
Beyond that, there’s no way the Oilers would get him. No point leaving a team with another #1 C and then go to another team with a similar problem. Not saying that RNH is at Crosby’s level (assuming he’s healthy), just that he’ll be deserving of prime minutes as well.
In summary: Malkin has no reason to leave. Edmonton would have nothing to offer if he somehow did.
Maybe, but not at $3M and certainly not at the price of Hemsky. I wouldn’t trade Omark for him.
Mcguire continues to be an idiot. Dress him up in floral and he’s ready to replace Don Cherry.
The Oilers would do well to hire Ferraro in some capacity.
Malkin especially has little reason to leave considering Crosby is one bad hit to the head from being done. Not someone’s shadow to be worried about; especially when you’ve elevated yourself as his equal.
Cactus,
What Cactus said.
with the Kuba signing, looks like Garrison is leaving. Canucks will make a pitch. Prob the Pens as well. But would Tambo be crazy enough to offer a big deal attached to the same kind of pitch made to Shultz?
Garrison-Shultz
Smid-Petry
Whitney-Shultz
Fun times.
Apparently Ray Shero agrees with bloggers like Derek Zona that there’s no place for guys like Tanner Glass, Derek Engelland, Ben Lovejoy, or Steve MacIntyre in the new NHL on a cup contending team.
souray to Anaheim. Maybe. Eklund said ti so we doubt
The only thing Derek Zonathat understands about hockey is stats, but the actual game he doesn’t have a clue.
rumour is ottawa dealing foligno for methot. from mackenzie, so maybe we can all breathe on the hemsky thing
+1
BMckenzie is reporting that Methot might be going to Ottawa for Nick Foligno
Methot rumoured to Ott for Foligno by BobMac. Wow. Just wow!
+1
Bobby Mac has Methot for Foligno
Thank God.
Amazing trade for Cbus if true.
Ottawa should have just kept Carkner. They offered him 750k then trade a good player for Methot and 3M.
penner 1 yr $3 mill plus in LA as per Lebrun
Now I’m worried the Oilers will trade Hemsky to Ottawa for Methot. WHAT DO PEOPLE SEE IN HIM??????????????????????????????????
Garrioch tweets..
Senators deal of Nick Foligno for Columbus D Marc Methot is confirmed. #Sens
Dodged a bullet. Methot is terrible. Great trade for Columbus.
Hahaha. I think we’re safe on that for now, LT.
As I said earlier, Hemsky’s name is always in the mix. The fact that the Oilers HAVEN’T traded him yet means that they’re not trying to rush him out the door.
Lowetide,
Ottawa needed a replacement for Kuba, and they need some grit with their D. With Edmonton he wasn’t much of a upgrade if any over Sutton and Peckham. IMO Columbus robbed Ottawa.
Lowetide,
Big body presence? Thunderous body checks? Eye glow?
I bet Omark doesn’t return a player as good as Foligno.
Really? Methot played for Team Canada at the Worlds and is an established veteran NHL Dman.
Omark is 25, not an established NHL player, and not one team thought he was worth even a low draft pick at the draft.
I’d deal Omark for Methot in a heartbeat.
Methot must have sideburns.
Anyone else bothered by the fact that so many Oiler fans see Hemsky as some spare part we should just throw away?
Ridiculous.. We’re talking about one of our top 3 players.. hes been a warrior for years.
I seriously think some fans woulda been happy trading Hemsky for Marc fucking Methot… geez
Method traded to Ottawa for Fogliono apparantly.
Lundin 1 year @ 1 million is a good deal for Ottawa. Edmonton could have used him, seemed to be a top 4 shutdown D in Tampa, wonder what happened to him in Minnie, only 17 games?
I really don’t get why teams seem to covet Method. From where I sit he’s an overpaid third pairing defenseman.
Pancakeburger re-ups with the Kings.
Chris,
BWAHAHAHHA! 15G 32A 47P Foligno for a bottom pairing 3 million a season d-man? Wow.
Interesting.
Which one of Hall, Eberle, and RNH is he better than?
I think the Oilers are still out there with bids, Parros, Tootoo and would imagine the club still has irons in the fire for the blueline. Still some nice players available via free agency on D, too.
Having said that, I’m fine if there isn’t a top 4D that suits them shaking loose. Patience is a virtue, and the three moves made in the last 24 hours are very, very good imo.
Filip Kuba: $4M
6G 26A 32P +26
EVPTS – 3G 16A 19P
QC – toughest
TOI/G – 2nd
PPTOI/G 3rd
SHTOI/G – 1st
Nick Shultz : $3.5M
1G 6A 7P -12
EVPTS – 0G 6A 6P
QC – 3rd
TOI/G – 5th
PPTOI/G – 5th
SHTOI/G – 4th
Appears to me that Kuba is far from overpaid.
6’4″ 225 defensemen who play the toughs, come out well ahead and kill penalties don’t grow on trees.
He got a zone start push but was babysitting Karlsson.
Seems to have worked out okay and I imagine Tallon will use him to babysit one of his young studs.
We’ll see this year. If Eberle starts drawing the top competition, and Hemsky gets softer minutes away from Horcoff, some Oiler fans will have their worlds turned upside down I believe.
Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer
Getting questions about Oilers toughness. Could see the Oil re-visiting Hordichuk
lame
he’ll (edit: be) tougher this year. promise.
Is that you Zona?
What’s next? Gagner = Bobby Clarke
Hordichuk getting thrown $700K for one year is a lot less damaging than a 2 or 3 year overpay to Parros or Tootoo. I
Gee, Bob wanting more toughness. Its been the same script from him for 15 years.
What else would you expect?
I expect that Hemsky’s value will be higher before the trade deadline. If they play, that is.
Exactly. If they’ve GOT to have an enforcer, I’d rather take Hordichuk for a 1 year deal than some overpay for a bigger name. Besides, I trust Krueger to either use the big man responsibly, or confine him to the pressbox.
I hear that the production team behind Community recently hired some bigger bodies…that’s why Dan Harmon is no longer running their show.
Not quite.. so you believe Eberle would have put up the same numbers playing tough minutes beside Horcoff all year?
What do you expect from Eberle if he draws the others teams best all year? You don’t think Hemsky would thrive because of it?
Traktor,
It’s easy even for those like myself who venture over to BTN to start pencilling in 3 scoring lines and a softish 4rth line with some utility players like Jones and Belanger. In fact, I already did in an earlier post.
I agree with all here that Smac glaring from the PB is not a deterrent and with Dellow that using draft picks for guys with bottom six ceilings is a losing strategy.
For all of you who do the same, here’s a reminder of our reality:
Drew Doughty blows up Taylor Hall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Pu00dGkhY
Raffi Torres blows up Jordan Eberle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRzzZ8GUkig
Cory Sarich hit on Taylor Hall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wttzK-Q_Frk
Cal Clutterbuck hits Taylor Hall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xq_cNZjaSK0
Justin Abdelkater huge hit on Taylor Hall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8T786xEHJcQ
Ryan Wilson Injures Taylor Hall with Huge Hit:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsMJ–5a8Ps
Alexander Edler Levels Taylor Hall:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70xInr4WoQo
Handzus Boards Hemsky:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3YSV01FGho
Dan Boyle levels Jordan Eberle:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8PdBu3SUyk
Nugent-Hopkins gets run over by Oreskovich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pyzYyqeC6s
Now who was suggesting Omark should have played on the 4rth line?
It’s easy to discount the value of players who stick up for teammates when only looking at advanced stats.
Is Hemsky injury prone or did he play for a team that let him get run over for a decade?
Obviously one nuclear deterrent doesn’t do the job. You need guys throughout the lineup who can push back and stick up for their teammates IMO.
No, he thinks that Eberle would have put up better numbers playing equivalent minutes (i.e. amount, toughness, quality of teammates) than Hemsky. You’re shifting the target, DSF-style.
We do need more toughness. We don’t need 2 minute per night players though.
Konopka and Carkner add that and can play a regular shift.
The best option is to move vanilla players (Belanger, Potter, Horcoff, Gagner, Omark) for NHL players that have more sandpaper (Dubinsky, Zach Smith, Prust, Tootoo ect).
4 years $10 mill for Prust in MTL. That’s a lot for a 4th liner. If true, guess toughness is vogue right now.
This money is stupid. Prust? Tell me he’s $1.4M better a year than Eager. Wow. I hope the Oilers do sign Hordichuk and then grab another defender via trade before going home after a good day’s work.
Parros might be $3M after these numbers, and lord knows the price on Tootoo.
Huge bullet dodge on Methot.
Big win for CBJs… maybe Howson has some moves afterall?
People dumping on Hemsky and Zona? Color me shocked.