12-13 ROOKIE ELIGIBLES

I’m preparing a ‘camp hopefuls’ set of blogs for the next week or so, and was surprised to find one of the Oilers prominent prospect is not considered a rookie.

The NHL’s definition of a rookie goes as follows:

  • To be eligible for the award, a player cannot have played any more than 25 games previously in any single season, nor have played in more than six games in two separate preceding seasons in any major professional league. The latter fact was perhaps most prominent when in 1979–80, first-year phenom Wayne Gretzky was not eligible to win the Calder Trophy despite scoring 137 points (the previous rookie record at the time being 95), because he had played a full season in the World Hockey Association in 1978-79. In 1990, 31-year-old Sergei Makarov of the Calgary Flames became the oldest player to win the Calder. After that season, the rules for awarding the Calder were amended so that players are eligible only if they were 26 years old or younger by Sept. 15 of their rookie season.

Only the NHL folks, only the NHL. Based on those criteria, here’s a quick look at eligible and ineligible players among Oiler prospects:

  • Nail Yakupov: Eligible, and should be considered a strong candidate for the Calder.
  • Justin Schultz: Eligible, and also a strong candidate for the ROY.
  • Colten Teubert: Eligible, he played 24 games last season. Had he played one more game, Teubert would be ineligible.
  • Teemu Hartikainen: Ineligible, he played 17 games last year and then 12 games the previous season.
  • Chris VandeVelde: Eligible, he played 12 games two years ago and 5 games this past season.
  • Alex Plante: Eligibe. He has played in 4, 3 and 3 games in the last three seasons.

I think the NHL could clean up the rule quickly by:

  • refraining from demonizing 27-year old rookies. For crying out loud, this is a rare happening and if someone has played that long without making a major hockey league and THEN wins the Calder? The guy deserves a trophy.
  • Have 1 run-on sentence to gather all the the eligibles: all first year players are eligible (25 games in any previous NHL season punches your ticket), with the exception being 200 or more games in the KHL, SEL and SM-Liiga. The 200 games establishes a ‘veteran’ status in the three highest leagues.

Done. Idiots.

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19 Responses to "12-13 ROOKIE ELIGIBLES"

  1. JohnnyRocket says:

    That Wayne never won the Calder is a shame. I wish the HHOF and the league office treated the game with the same reverence that baseball gets treated with in the States. There teams don’t get special consideration (like the Habs and Leafs do here) and they consider the players contribution to the game, not just his popularity and stats.

  2. Lowetide says:

    Agreed. Baseball’s voters aren’t perfect but have a strong sense of responsibility, of getting it right for history. Example: the incredible voting that took place for the NL rookie of the year in 1959. The voters didn’t give a crap about GP, they cared about impact.

  3. steveb12344 says:

    Yeah, they had that rule in place to try to discourage the underagers going to the WHA. Even though the league busted, i think the NHL at the time still wanted to make an example out of 99.

    The Makarov rule made sense at the time too. It was a joke watching him cruise to the Calder uncontested. With the USSR going tits up, and players no longer being forced to stay in thier home country with a gun to thier heads. The NHL could be a little quicker to recognise the need to change rules back.

  4. steveb12344 says:

    They still have thier share of politics when it comes to the voting for the MLBHOF.I still think Jack Morris got shafted. That game he pitched in the WS for the twins, was one of the most unreal things i’ve ever seen.

  5. regwald says:

    I blame Tom Renney for this debacle. How dare he misuse Hartikainen like that … ~~~~~~

  6. hunter1909 says:

    Why didn’t Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson or Kurri ever win the Calder? I understood that Gretzky and Messier were considered professionals, thanks to their WHA days.

    I like how everyone is now starting to jump on the bandwagon, in light of those 6 million dollar contracts.

    I say start, because still there is that African drought waterhole feeling among the jitterish majority.

    Lockout? Probably the best thing ever. Gives the older teams time to decline without so much as icing a team, while younger rising teams like the Oilers simply re-enter the Bettman-occasional-hockey league and bingo! It’s playoff hockey time again north on Highway 2.

  7. melancholyculkin says:

    There was some other ridiculous, convoluted loophole that came to light in 2010-11. I can’t remember exactly what it was, but somehow Pietrangelo was ineligible for the Calder because he’d played in the 9 game tryout and then been sent back to junior two years in a row. Meanwhile Logan Couture, who had played in 40 NHL games prior to 2010-11, was somehow eligible because some of his 40 games were playoff games.

  8. speeds says:

    Here’s a question for you LT, and it assumes there will actually be a training camp which I doubt, but:

    How “lights out” would Rieder need to be in camp to even get a 9 game look?

  9. Lowetide says:

    speeds: I think he’d have to show really well, and more importantly get the chance. Having said that, I do think there’s an opportunity there on the 3 or 4 line for a guy who works hard in his zone and on the PK. Krueger doesn’t like cherry pickers based on that short audition last season.

    It might seem a stretch, but the Oilers kept Lander last fall.

  10. jp says:

    hunter1909:
    Why didn’t Paul Coffey, Glenn Anderson or Kurri ever win the Calder? I understood that Gretzky and Messier were considered professionals, thanks to their WHA days.

    Messier was ineligible as you say, but still only scored 75 12 21 33 120 in his 1st yr.
    Calder winner Bourque went 80 17 48 65 73

    Coffey went 74 9 23 32 130
    Anderson 58 30 23 53 24
    and Kurri 75 32 43 75 40, all in 80-81
    vs Calder winner Stastny’s 77 39 70 109 37

    Surprising may be, but none were actually good enough to win the Calder in their 1st year.

    speeds:
    Here’s a question for you LT, and it assumes there will actually be a training camp which I doubt, but:

    How “lights out” would Rieder need to be in camp to even get a 9 game look?

    I think he’d have to be completely retarded in TC to get any look this year. Probably leading the team in scoring wouldn’t do it.

    Lowetide,
    Have 1 run-on sentence to gather all the the eligibles: all first year players are eligible (25 games in any previous NHL season punches your ticket), with the exception being 200 or more games in the KHL, SEL and SM-Liiga. The 200 games establishes a ‘veteran’ status in the three highest leagues.

    Makarov still wouldn’t have been eligible by this criteria, but the run-on sentence make a lot of sense.

  11. hunter1909 says:

    jp: Messier was ineligible as you say, but still only scored 75 12 21 33 120 in his 1st yr.
    Calder winner Bourque went 80 17 48 65 73
    Coffey went 74 9 23 32 130
    Anderson 58 30 23 53 24
    and Kurri 75 32 43 75 40, all in 80-81
    vs Calder winner Stastny’s 77 39 70 109 37
    Surprising may be, but none were actually good enough to win the Calder in their 1st year.

    It’s funny, because I remember watching Bourque with the losing Bruins at least once and he never stood out whatsoever as being able to contain anyone especially well. This said, at the time I was extremely young and might have been blinded by my favourite dynasty.

    In my opinion, replace Ray Bourque with Brad Park and Park emerges as the outstanding superstar generational defenceman.

    Something tells me Oilers make the playoffs, as soon as the lockout ends. As Lowetide knows, I was the first here to predict that Taylor Hall was a genuine bonafide superstar in the making; and as Woodguy knows I can fuck up a prediction as well as anyone else, but there’s something in the addition of Yakupov and Schultz the Younger + the rabid development curve of Steve Tambellini’s 6 million dollar quartet that simply spells instant 45+ win team.

    And with a new head coach named after a monster movie icon…unless said monster was named after him…

  12. bookje says:

    Yeah, it’s too bad Gretzky did not win the Calder. That would’ve made for an impressive career.

  13. jake70 says:

    Off topic, but LT, was watching the Jays game, and they showed a group of fans, some 150 of them, all with Expos caps on. You could hear them all cheering “Let’s go Expos”. PBP guy Buck Martinez mentioned they were a group trying to bring attention to reviving baseball in Montreal. Warren Cromartie is actually leading a group called the Montreal Baseball Project (MBP). Interesting article….once can hope I guess.

    http://www.montrealgazette.com/sports/Cromartie+still+talking+Montreal/7164027/story.html

  14. Lowetide says:

    Jake70: that would be a great, great day.

  15. DSF says:

    How about the ageless Spaceman, Bill Lee, who won a complete-game victory for the professional San Rafael Pacifics in the North American League at age 65?

  16. pboy says:

    Lowetide:
    Agreed. Baseball’s voters aren’t perfect but have a strong sense of responsibility, of getting it right for history. Example: the incredible voting that took place for the NL rookie of the year in 1959. The voters didn’t give a crap about GP, they cared about impact.

    Thanks for making me google that. Only 52 games played, Willie must have been awesome to watch. He didn’t win the Hickok belt though.

  17. Bruce McCurdy says:

    bookje:
    Yeah, it’s too bad Gretzky did not win the Calder.That would’ve made for an impressive career.

    Bookje wins the thread.

    NHL’s rookie rule is outdated and nobody within the league cares enough to fix it. They have completely forgotten why the number “6″ was chosen for the 2x 6-game rule. It should be modernized to 10 games so as not to screw over the likes of Alex Pietrangelo.

  18. cdean says:

    #shultzforcalder

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