TRAINING CAMP HOPEFUL #1: DAVID MUSIL

The Edmonton Oilers are going to have a lot of defensemen pushing their way up the depth chart over the next few seasons, and David Musil might be the first one to find his way to the NHL.

Although Musil is not the highest ranked defenseman among the Oilers prospects (I have him #13 on the summer list) he and Oscar Klefbom are likely the most ‘defensively ready’ to make the NHL.

  • Vancouver Giants coach Don Hay: “David’s a real good player. He’s a dependable defensive defenceman who gets the puck up the ice. He’s very solid in his own end of the ice, he understands the game very well. We rely on David to be a shutdown guy and a penalty kill guy, he’s the same player as he was at 16, he’s just more mature now. He’s got a very good hockey IQ, he just needs to keep getting stronger, to continue to work on his skating, and being a little bit better on the offensive blueline.”

Pair that with Redline’s comp (Ladislav Smid) and verbal.

  • RLR on Musil: David has excellent size and strength and plays a rugged brand of hockey with a bit of a mean streak. He reads developing plays well and uses anticipation to break up plays before they become dangerous. He’s got good hockey sense in all three zones, but his offensive upside is limited due to his mediocre point shot.
  • RLR on his comp:Maintains great gap control and always squares up to the puckhandler. Has good poise, plays solid, mistake-free game in own zone and is excellent positionally. Reads and anticipates developing plays well. Good laterally, but 1st step and straightaway speed are average. Is not good as either a PP quarterback or trigger-man— has weak shot and makes poor decisions in puck distribution.

And I think we get the picture. Early reports from this year’s Giants camp have Musil shooting the puck better than ever, and if he can bring any offense to his game then the Oilers are going to have a worthy defender. The Hay quote above is what we saw at the WJ’s: big minutes shut down defender, not terribly creative but effective enough getting the puck up ice. I love the line about same player at 16, because you get a sense he’s always been able to read the play and react accordingly.

The item we have to factor in to the good news is footspeed. Musil is going to have to be very good positionally or pick up a little on footspeed in order to play big minutes at evens and pk (the Smid minutes).

  1.  You’re not serious about him making the team, are you? It’s a long shot, but that’s what we’re discussing with this series. Long shots.
  2. He’s WAY down the depth chart. Not that far down, and he impressed last training camp too remember, even got into a pre-season game.
  3. He was cut early. Second round of cuts, Oilers sent away Gernat and released Tyler Schmidt and Wes Vannieuwenhuizen on Sept 19, and then Musil, Brandon Davidson and Jeremie Blain were sent back to junior September 21. Martin Marincin was the only junior left and the last junior defenseman to get sent out, he lasted awhile longer (Sept 26).
  4. What’s the depth chart? Oilers depth chart on LD might be Smid, Whitney, Schultz the elder, Sutton, Peckham. Sound about right?
  5. Then we need to factor in the AHL guys like Marincin. Okay, let’s say the OKC Barons LD will be Ringwald, Marincin, Zahn, Davidson.
  6. Not a lot of experience. I think they might add a veteran D at some point, or maybe have Plante play LD.
  7. Plante? Well the RH side has more experience–Plante, Teubert, Fedun is stronger than left side. They could use a veteran puck mover who could help the PP.
  8. Alright, we’re all over the place. Give me the entire pro LD depth chart. Smid, Whitney, Schultz the elder, Sutton, Peckham, Ringwald, Marincin, Zahn, Davidson.
  9. And Schultz the elder can play RD as well? Yes, and we’ll say Plante could play LD in OKC to even things out.
  10. So that’s 9 or 10 guys? Yes.
  11. Musil can’t pass 5 guys and he can’t play in the AHL. The job Musil will one day own–as I see it–is the 5-6D role that I have Schultz the elder, Sutton and Peckham in currently.
  12. How does Musil make it to the NHL this fall? Well, perhaps Whitney isn’t healthy and the Smid-Petry pairing is followed by the Schultz-Schultz pairing. And maybe Sutton is banged up and Peckham looks lost, but the smooth kid from the Giants keeps making the simple play.
  13. Marincin would take that job. Not necessarily. Marincin can play in OKC, Musil can’t. If the Oilers decide that Musil is more productive now than Peckham, I don’t think it takes more than one injury to light the conversation. From there it’s a matter of taste for Krueger, which one do you want to go to war with in 12-13.
  14. Oilers wouldn’t do that. Lander played 56 games last season.
  15. Your scenario is farce. Oilers won’t have that many injuries. You know about the Oilers and injuries, right?
  16. Are you suddenly down on Peckham? No, I’ve said before that the Oilers should be patient with him. Peckham has been saying the right things too: “When you don’t play to the best of your ability, there are two ways you can go about it.  You can let it drag your career down or take it as an opportunity to show not only the coaching staff but this town that you have a lot more left and you can play a lot better. I’m not going to wait and see what happens. I’m just going to go in and take my spot. I’ll let that be known.”
  17. So Peckham has a job going in? That would be my guess. Peckham again, about Krueger: “I’ve told him that I want a clear understanding of what my role is and I don’t want there to be any is communication so that when push comes to shove I know exactly what I’m supposed to do in every situation and there’s no hesitation. And that’s almost death in hockey, when you start hesitating in situations and that can only lead to bad things.”
  18. So tell me again how he makes it. Okay. Oilers arrive at training camp (and this assumes no lockout) with the usual suspects. Lets say Whitney is fine, and this allows Schultz the elder to play right side. Lets also say that the top 3 pairings are Smid-Petry, Whitney-Schultz the younger and Sutton-Schultz the older. Peckham is 7D but Musil is impressive and getting into pre-season games.
  19. Okay…..Well we reach a point where Peckham’s chaos is a concern and Musil’s steady play keeps making itself obvious. And then someone–Whitney, Sutton–is injured.
  20. So they alter the pairings and include Peckham in the 5-6D. And that’s probably what they do. But, if Musil outplays Peckham–and Theo had a tough season last year–Musil might be able to wiggle his way into the lineup.
  21. What about Potter? You haven’t mentioned him at all. He is among the right side candidates, with Petry, Schultz the younger, possibly Schultz the older and Colten Teubert.
  22. Oilers won’t run with two rookie Ds.  It’s a long shot, but he’s an unusual teenager.

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13 Responses to "TRAINING CAMP HOPEFUL #1: DAVID MUSIL"

  1. WeridAl says:

    There is no reason for the Oilers to rush Musil, even if he looks ready and another year in the WHL will not hurt him.

  2. spoiler says:

    I wish you loved Eberle as much as you love Musil.

    ;o)

  3. spoiler says:

    I’d have to think playing Musil in The Big Show would be feeding him to the lions.

    Both Schultz Sr and Sutton can play either side. With Teubert, Fedun, Peckham, Potter, Marincin and Plante also in the arena, there’s no need to give the lions a dog’s breakfast.

    Lander, the feisty little gladiator that he is, had been already facing grown men for two years, so those 56 games don’t look anywhere near as ridiculous as they would on Musil. And Lander can skate.

    Think of Teubert’s struggles. Scouts rated his reads about the same as Musil’s at the same age, and he’s a far better skater. NHLers are evil fast with diabolical moves.

  4. Ducey says:

    I agree with the fella asking the questions…

  5. hunter1909 says:

    Inspired draft pick.

    A bigger version of Frank? Just as skilled? Yeah!

    2-3 seasons down the NHL road this team’s defence will be as hard to break into as their 2012-13 top six.

    Speaking of, from what has transpired since they kind of rehired that coach who remains nameless, the front office appears improved. Really.

  6. Bruce McCurdy says:

    I saw OKC play in Calgary each of the last two years, and both times Plante was on left defence — with Petry in 2010-11 and with Teubert last year. They also had Bryan Helmer playing top four minutes so somebody needed to move, and Plante did so without much difficulty. It’s a pretty common thing for left-shooting d-men, but you don’t see it too often with a right-hand shot because there are relatively fewer of them.

    Such experience makes for a more useful and well-rounded player in my view.

  7. TheOtherJohn says:

    It took Smid how long to “get it”? and he was always a ++ skater. Musil may be 2- 3 years away from the roster and 3-4 years from making a real contribution. He has the added bonus of coming from the Alex Plante school of powerskating.

    As I think it through, Tuebert has a better toolbox and is 1-2 years away. We are gonna have a ton of prospects vying for 5-6-7 D slots in two or three years

  8. Lowetide says:

    Bruce: Agreed. Petry scored a PP goal from the left point on one of those OKC CBC games one Sunday afternoon too. It really opens up roster options.

    TOJ: I believe he’s a better skater than Plante.

  9. TheOtherJohn says:

    God I hope so!

    Gonna enjoy seeing which of prospect D can make their way into top 4 in 3-5 years. Lots of candidates. Presumptuous but expect Klefbom will get there quick. Everyone has question marks. Development system could pay off huge if 2-3 of the prospects can do it over few years

  10. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: My work for the government means I can’t post on Oilers Nation, so really I have to say this:

    You’re finally banging Scarlett.

    And anyone can watch this gang bang sex going on in your subconscious.

    It’s probably the coolest thing I’ve seen online this year.

  11. hunter1909 says:

    ps: Jujhar Khaira is going to be a star hockey player – every year he plays a full season. May he play twenty of them.

  12. sliderule says:

    My concern with Musil is his skating.At WJC he looked slow as a Plante.

    At the development camp he looked quicker but this was only to my eye.

  13. godot10 says:

    Marincin is far more likely to need AHL time than Musil. His body has to fill out. He has more offense to his game. His is a multidimensional defenseman. You want him to develop all the dimensions to his game.

    Musil is going to be a shutdown guy. Guys whose bread and butter is doing one thing really well can progress faster and skip levels. So if Musil can defend against NHL players, he can make the team ahead of more multidimensional young guys, who need more development time to develop all dimensions of their game.

    There are teams in need of D bodies out there. Sutton and Peckham are tradeable if Musil can do his ONE thing, i.e. defend.

    That said, Musil making it is an sxtreme long shot.

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