CORNET TO STOCKTON!

Word this morning that Phil Cornet–along with Teigan Zahn and Toni Rajala–has been sent to Stockton (ECHL). Cornet was an AHL All-Star one year ago and led the Barons with 24 goals. This is absolutely a result of the lockout, but it’s also a curious move based on the players who remain on the roster.

Antti Tyrvainen is in the medical room, don’t know if he’s sent out too or IR (ALL of this comes from Joanne Ireland of the EJ and Eric Rodgers on twitter).

CURRENT DEPTH CHART

GOALIES

  1. Yann Danis
  2. Olivier Roy
  3. Tyler Bunz
  4. Ian Keserich

DEFENSE

  1. Alex Plante
  2. Colten Teubert
  3. Justin Schultz
  4. Dan Ringwald
  5. Taylor Fedun
  6. Martin Marincin
  7. Teigan Zahn
  8. Brandon Davidson
  9. Trevor Ludwig

FORWARDS

  1. Jordan Eberle
  2. Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
  3. Josh Green
  4. Magnus Paajarvi
  5. Teemu Hartikainen
  6. Mark Arcobello
  7. Anton Lander
  8. Tyler Pitlick
  9. Dane Byers
  10. Phil Cornet
  11. Chris VandeVelde
  12. Antti Tyrvainen?????
  13. Toni Rajala
  14. Curtis Hamilton
  15. Ryan Martindale
  16. Tanner House
  17. Kristians Pelss
  18. Cameron Abney
  19. Eric Hunter
  20. Justin Maylan
  21. Gary Steffes

Based on performance last season, it is difficult to make sense of sending out Cornet and keeping Curtis Hamilton. Lets hope the young man earns it.

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18 Responses to "CORNET TO STOCKTON!"

  1. DBO says:

    I actually think the Cornet thing makes sense if you read Nelson’s interview with Gregor at ON. Nelson wondered what made more sense, having guys sit and practice with the AHL club, or play top end minutes in Stockton and get their confidence. I actually think, since Cornet doesn’t have a place in the top 6 in the AHL while the NHL kids are down in OK, that they would rather have him play tons of minutes in Stockton, and when/if the lockout is lifted, he slides right into a top 6 role with the AHL team.

  2. Thinker says:

    I’d rather see abney, pelss, and one of acrobello or house sent down as they are less likely to play in the nhl than cornet.

  3. bookje says:

    Yes, this seems to me to be a case of letting first line players play first line minutes instead of filling 3rd or 4th line roles.

    Lockouts sure mess everything down the food chain up. I imagine that there are a number of bubble ECHL players out there hoping the lockout gets settled soon.

  4. jp says:

    It is a bit surprising to see Cornet sent down, but he did do most of his scoring early on. I don’t have the splits handy, but I seem to remember he was 20-17-2-19 at some point before Xmas last year. That leaves something like 45-7-11-18 the rest of the way – not particularly impressive. With the influx of players to OKC, him not making the club isn’t really that shocking. I do agree cutting him this early and before some of the guys still there is a surprise though.

    Coach Nelson also talked after the Barons 2nd preseason game blowout (video on oilers.com) about how some of the players didn’t play hungry enough (or something to that effect) and that it would make some of the roster moves easier. May be we’re seeing some of that here too, but who knows (someone who watched those games might be able to shed more light on whether this is likely).

    I like that they’ve kept Hamilton up so far. He is a guy who might benefit from a prime time role in Stockton to gain some confidence, but I think he’d also benefit from a bottom 6 role in OKC with some PK responsibility and such. I’m still hoping he can rebound from last season and make it into the Oilers bottom 6 at some point.

  5. mmac says:

    LT

    What do you think about Martindale. He’s played well so far but did so last year in training camp and proceeded to post substandard numbers in the echl. Do you think he gets a push this year, C with size, and where would he fit?

  6. blackdog says:

    I would think that they know what they have with Cornet. He’s an older guy, relatively speaking, and probably is never going to be an NHLer.

    Its the younger guys’ turn. Will Pelss, Hamilton, Martindale or Abney make it? (Abney has a different role of course) Unlikely but probably the Oilers want to give them that push to see what they have.

  7. Lowetide says:

    MMac: I think there are a few players Edmonton wants to see this winter. Paajarvi, Hartikainein will probably get a push but players like Pitlick, Hamilton and Martindale will get a shot.

    I don’t really know what to make of the Cornet demotion, beyond the Oilers don’t really see him as a long term prospect.

  8. Ducey says:

    Corney has no future with the Oilers. Doesn’t score enough to play top 6; isn’t tough/ big enough or check enough to play bottom 6. If he is lucky he will be Patrick Thoreson II

  9. Hayek says:

    Don’t know about you guys, but I’m quite pleased with the 7 defenders they chose to keep. Seeing Fedun, Marincin, and Davidson stick around is nice for the Oilers being able to evaluate what I think are legitimate prospects.

    I’m a person who likes to see players that have demonstrated strong offensive production in their past get opportunities, as it’s easier to teach defence than it is offence. That’s why I remain hopeful for some like Martindale who lit it up in the OHL as a junior. After his poor showing his first year of pro, there was some disappointment, but in the right situation there is still a chance that he can have strong offensive numbers as a pro.

    Too bad on Cornet, but I guess with RNH, Eberle, Hall(soon), and one of Hartikainen/Paajarvi occupying an OKC roster spot(that wouldn’t without lockout), some people will have to go down to the ECHL one year.

    With Yakupov coming to Oilers now, if some of these prospects can put up good numbers in the AHL, they should really help the Oilers in having attractive trade options involving these prospects.

  10. Lowetide says:

    I like the blue’s long term potential, but they need some experience imo. A LH AHL veteran would help quite a bit, and give the coach more options. If Marincin and Davidson are healthy and productive all is cool (with one RH–Plante, Teubert or Fedun–moving over), but you’d like to be able to ease all these new rookie pro’s in a little.

  11. Jonathan Willis says:

    Lowetide,

    Looks like Teubert and Fedun will play together out of the gate.

  12. dessert1111 says:

    Cornet wasn’t very noticeable in the 2nd preseason game but he didn’t play very many minutes. The couple times that I did notice him were in board battles where the rest of this linemates looked lost and when he covered for a Schultz pinch (and he did so very effectively preventing a good potential scoring chance). In the same game Hamilton didn’t look like he had much drive and I was hoping he would get sent down. Similarly Zahn looked better to me than Davidson in that game. I’m quite surprised by these moves and it seems to me like the Oilers might have talked to the OKC coaches. I don’t see how House makes the team and Cornet doesn’t, I mean I guess to play top line minutes in Stockton, but the guy is 22 years old and I think some time in the ECHL is not going to give him confidence. I think they’ve just announced that they’ve given up on him with that transaction.

    Does Rajala report to Stockton or go back to Europe? Seems like another Milan Kytnar, maybe he can get an NHL game in too….

  13. PaperDesigner says:

    Cornet is pretender. He won’t have a career in the NHL. Good on Martindale for playing his way onto the roster. But I am pulling for Hamilton. I still feel he can have a career as a two-way winger in the NHL, but he needs to start showing something this year.

  14. mmac says:

    Interview up on oilers web site with Nelson explaining why they sent cornet down, apparently was out played by Pless and Martindale,

  15. Lowetide says:

    Good stuff, MMAC. That’s a reason.

  16. Kris11 says:

    I see Hamilton as a victim of the lockout. He needs top 9 AHL time for a year, and will probably be bad at the AHL level for a while. Sometimes you can hide guys like that in a solid AHL lineup, but there are too many good players and too many young guys in OKC to find a spot for Hamilton.

    I guess injuries might hit and all, but still it’s a roster problem.

    I might be willing to move a prospect for a pick, too, if I were Tambellini. You probably lose some value, but whatever.

  17. godot10 says:

    Tanner House can play centre, can check, can kill penalties, and plays a relatively more physical game.

    Cornet can do none of those things. Cornet is a small soft minutes AHL winger who provides reasonable offense, and not much defense, in that role.

    Nugent-Hopkins, Eberle (and maybe Hall soon) really put the squeeze on Cornet and Arcobello. But Arcobello is a much better player than Cornet, and can also play top six AHL centre (for when after Nugent-Hopkins is gone after the lockout is over).

    The silicon chip also seemed to flip to on inside Ryan Martindale’s head. If he stays on, he becomes a prospect again, and he become direct competition for Cornet’s spot, because although Martindale is a centre, Arcobello can be moved to wing, and play wing better than Cornet. Martindale has more NHL potential than Cornet, and if he has solved his motivation issues…

    And Pelss is turning into the little engine that could, and he can probably do everything that Cornet can do.

    I can see the Oilers trading Cornet for an AHL defenseman at some point. i.e. They will look for a team with too many AHL defenseman and make an AHL forward for AHL defenseman trade.

  18. dessert1111 says:

    I’ve had time to digest and I think I pretty much agree with Godot at this point. It seems strange to give up on Cornet after a good year that saw an NHL callup, but if he was outplayed, he was outplayed. I guess they hung on to Hamilton instead of Cornet because they want to give him one more year to see what he can do before writing him off, and in a recent interview I heard Tambellini mention Hamilton’s name when talking about all the exciting young prospects with a future in the NHL so that was telling to me as well.

    I feel like they could trade Cornet and maybe a guy like Rajala to an AHL team looking for offense for maybe a vet defender or even a low pick in the upcoming draft. Someone might be interested in a guy who was an AHL all star last year, and now he’s wasting away in the ECHL.

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