OKC V LAKE ERIE 22.10.12 (with lineups!)

Photos courtesy of Rob Ferguson. All rights reserved. I hope the Barons get done with Ohio teams soon, I’m running out of songs!


Mid-week game this week, and for Oiler fans a chance to see if the current scoring leaders (Schultz, Hartikainen, Marincin, Martindale) can stay ahead of the more gifted offensive players (Nuge, Eberle).

And maybe that’s not completely correct. Maybe Justin Schultz belongs on a higher rung. In Elliott Friedman’s 30 thoughts this week, he writes the following:

  • Oklahoma City tracks individual player plus/minus for scoring chances. “After Friday night’s game [a 5-2 win over San Antonio], assistant coaches Gerry Fleming and Rocky Thompson said Justin was a plus-10,” head coach Todd Nelson said. “Then they said, ‘We’ve never seen that before.’ I haven’t either.”

From what I’ve seen of Schultz he’d fit right into the 80′s Oilers. Slicing into the offensive zone–even on a penalty kill–and pressuring the other side consistently. He has the wheels to do it at the AHL level, will he also PK in the NHL?

I mentioned this last night, but will reiterate: there’s a very good chance Schultz plays in all three disciplines, as early as this season. He’s going to get EV playing time–probably with a veteran like Schultz the elder–and PP would seem to be guaranteed based on performance. If they add PK minutes Schultz could be a 22-24 minutes defender as a rookie.

And for those worrying about his defensive acumen, Friedman quotes the coach.

  • Todd Nelson: “He’s a quick learner. In our exhibition games he got caught up ice a couple of times. I only had to explain to him once that if he does that he has to be the first guy to get back. He adjusted… Very high hockey IQ.”

Hartikainen got his shot early on with the skilled kids, but I also think he should be getting credit for posting EV numbers with different linemates. The big Finn seems to be moving around the lineup and is having success, and this after a somewhat invisible performance in game one.

It’ll be interesting to see how Magnum PS does tonight and the rest of the AHL/lockout period. His North American career has been one of great success as a rookie followed by significant difficulty in season two.

If another coach–Nelson, and then another–Krueger–pass him by, then does the story stop being about Renney losing him and more about where he fits?

I think it does. A lot riding on this fall in OKC.

Updated 515p: via Eric Rodgers tweets

  • D-Pairs: Schultz/Marincin, Davidson/Teubert, Ringwald/Fedun. Yann Danis in net
  • Hartikainen-RNH-Eberle, Paajarvi-Martindale-Arcobello, Tyrvainen-Lander-Hamilton, Byers-VandeVelde-Pitlick

 

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116 Responses to "OKC V LAKE ERIE 22.10.12 (with lineups!)"

  1. DSF says:

    Ohio – Crosby, Stills and Nash.

  2. fuzzy muppet says:

    I’m fairly certain that Yak and Neftejemfungsk are playing today too.

    Stupid job

  3. regwald says:

    LT, did you see today’s article from Terry Jones ? He must read your blog too. He’s claiming the 2010 draft may be off the charts with regards to successful picks.

  4. steveb12344 says:

    Game winner for Yak in the dying seconds to give Neftekhimic the win

  5. Lois Lowe says:

    Blogger’s account of getting slapped by Ben Eager. He sure comes off as a douchebag.

    http://michaelmurray.ca/getting-slapped-by-nhl-enforcer-ben-eager-at-the-quail-and-firkin-in-toronto

  6. Moosemess says:

    Lois Lowe:
    Blogger’s account of getting slapped by Ben Eager. He sure comes off as a douchebag.

    http://michaelmurray.ca/getting-slapped-by-nhl-enforcer-ben-eager-at-the-quail-and-firkin-in-toronto

    Eager or the toff blogging about it?

  7. VOR says:

    LT,

    Given this is your second run in the last few days at Paajarvi I am wondering two things.

    1. What is it you want to see that you aren’t seeing?
    2. Do you think Dave Staples is imagining things?His scoring chance metric shows Paajarvi playing great and his comments have Paajarvi driving the net a lot. He isn’t getting a good outcome in terms of boxcars but neither is RNH yet you aren’t suggesting he needs to be “saved”. So why the double standard?

    It is clear that for whatever reason Paajarvi and VDV play well together and with Schultz make a great PK unit. Hartikainen equally clearly plays better with talented players than in a checking role. I thought Nelson was supposed to be trying to win games.

  8. delooper says:

    Track 16 on the Black Keys “Brothers” album is titled “Ohio”. They’re from Columbus.

  9. Ducey says:

    Moosemess: Eager or the toff blogging about it?

    I vote toff. He should stick to mouthing off on his blog. Mouthing off to big guys in bars has as much chance of turning out well as spending money on scratch and win tickets.

  10. Justified says:

    The Black Keys’ “Howlin For You” It’s a great song!!

  11. Bob Arctor says:

    Moosemess: Eager or the toff blogging about it?

    Must be the “toff”. Oilers management would never let a douchebag/bad influence in the lockeroom.

  12. Lois Lowe says:

    Ducey: I vote toff.He should stick to mouthing off on his blog.Mouthing off to big guys in bars has as much chance of turning out well as spending money on scratch and win tickets.

    The toff blogging about is going to get a payday from the inevitable civil suit. One might say that mouthing off hockey players in bars is actually a better bet than scratch tickets.

  13. Giant Squid Overlord says:

    Yak scoring in the far East and the Justin Schultz show in OKC has me indifferent about the lockout being lifted. Ideally, I’d like an abbreviated season for the young’uns to hit full stride, but I’m enjoying this season start in large part to what you and the responders do here.

    Thanks LT and y’all.

    Nice to hear one of my favorite female country musicians: Gillian Welch (right up there with Emmylou and Dolly). Enjoyed the Low Anthem song too – will have to check them out.
    A half decent song is Carry Me Ohio by Sun Kil Moon if the search is becoming exhausted.

  14. Moosemess says:

    Would agree he’s definitely chasing the civil suit payday. Why else would someone brag about being thrown to the ground and spat on?

    Comes off as a pseudo-intellectual considering himself above a neanderthal like Eager, when the reality is, the high road was there to be taken and neither party chose it. The blog post should’ve been titled “When Assholes Collide.”

    Given the other post on his blog, where he had a similar altercation with Ryan Gosling, it really makes you wonder if this isn’t one of those folks that simply looks to antagonize celebs in the hopes of an easy settlement should good judgement fail them?

  15. Ducey says:

    Moosemess: Would agree he’s definitely chasing the civil suit payday. Why else would someone brag about being thrown to the ground and spat on? Comes off as a pseudo-intellectual considering himself above a neanderthal like Eager, when the reality is, the high road was there to be taken and neither party chose it. The blog post should’ve been titled “When Assholes Collide.” Given the other post on his blog, where he had a similar altercation with Ryan Gosling, it really makes you wonder if this isn’t one of those folks that simply looks to antagonize celebs in the hopes of an easy settlement should good judgement fail them?

    If he is looking for $$ he should anatogize people somewhere in the USA. A slap to the face in those circumstances in Canada is going to net him about $250.00, if that.

  16. uni says:

    Before this goes any further everyone has to realize that the ‘blogger’ is full of hot air. He basically just makes up stories and adds in a known name to get attention.

    I don’t believe anyone here actually believes that the blowhard had anything to do with Ben Eager let alone Ryan Gosling. The first clue was he’s a nobody with 5 blog posts and a want to be social commentary writer, The second clue was his timeline being wrong since the altercation happened on Saturday morning not on Saturday night as he claims.

    Hell I should just write a blog post and say that Scarlett Johansson had snapped those naked pictures of herself to send to me not her then husband. With the gullibility of people I’d be a stud.

    Here’s an ‘article’ where the attention whore admits what he is:
    Blogger makes up Ryan Gosling story to feel self-important and get the attention he’s desperate for.

  17. jonrmcleod says:

    Moosemess,

    I’m pretty sure that story was fake.

  18. justDOit says:

    On a slow hockey news year, here’s an interesting story:

    http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey/article/1275556–peewee-hockey-player-faces-challenges-being-taller-than-most-nhlers

    This kid will be a Coke TRUCK, not merely a Coke machine.

  19. cabbiesmacker says:

    If Eager’s slap knocked this chap out and off of his barstool then we can assume it landed high and outside of the intended target. Coincidentally so did 99% of his scoring op’s last season.

    Looking at the bloggers profile pic makes me question why Eager wouldn’t just kick him in his assless chaps instead.

  20. Dipstick says:

    I have only seen about half of the OKC games (in very low definition), so perhaps my take on PRV is not accurate. I see him driving to the net and actually fighting through the check . Last season, it seemed that he was being rode off of track and behind the net more often than not. Although he seems to be shoveling the puck softly into the goalie’s pads at the end of the drive, at least he is getting there. No one has been following him there to pick up the rebound. I see improvement and need for more on that one important aspect of his game. Defensively, he has been solid, as usual.

  21. Lowetide says:

    VOR:
    LT,

    Given this is your second run in the last few days at Paajarvi I am wondering two things.

    1. What is it you want to see that you aren’t seeing?
    2. Do you think Dave Staples is imagining things?His scoring chance metric shows Paajarvi playing great and his comments have Paajarvi driving the net a lot. He isn’t getting a good outcome in terms of boxcars but neither is RNH yet you aren’t suggesting he needs to be “saved”. So why the double standard?

    It is clear that for whatever reason Paajarvi and VDV play well together and with Schultz make a great PK unit. Hartikainen equally clearly plays better with talented players than in a checking role. I thought Nelson was supposed to be trying to win games.

    I’m not taking a run at Paajarvi, he’s one of my favorites. I do worry about him, though. Paajarvi began the season on the 1line and has been moving down the batting order since. He has been involved offensively–15 shots and many from good scoring zones–but has only one goal.

    The problem is you develop a past. Paajarvi’s past involves some question about his scoring abilities. This isn’t a new item–Dennis King brought it up when Paajarvi was a rookie. As for David Staples scoring chances, he calls them “contributions to scoring chances” which sounds a bit like an “error” and I’m not a believer in that system.

    If it is pure scoring chances, like the ones Dennis puts over at Tyler’s–then we can safely assume they are scoring chances. Even with that, Paajarvi’s total (13-6 at evens) fades compared to Hartikainen (20-7) or the other young wingers.

    I’m not saying he can’t play, I’m saying it appears there’s someone else better able to fill those minutes. Paajarvi may be best suited to being a checking winger, and that has tremendous value.

    Anyone who watched Fernando Pisani as an Oiler knows that much.

  22. hunter1909 says:

    Lois Lowe,

    The guy is an idiot.

    Only a idiot tries to mouth off anyone in a bar. Or, that’s the law of the jungle I remember.

    He’s hoping for a big payout. What a douche.

    Next time, shut your mouth and play your scratchcards at home.

    Eager’s an aggressive type? What a surprise.

  23. Moosemess says:

    Actually Hunter, it appears the blogger is a work of fiction at least as it pertains to run-ins with the Eager Goslings of this world.

    Once again, the Internet proves the old maxim “It takes all kinds to make a world.”

  24. steveb12344 says:

    apparently The Star contacted him about it and he admitted right away that it was a fictional writing, just like the Gosling thing.

  25. spoiler says:

    Re: Paajarvi

    Pisani had sweet hands, sweet moves, and while a damn good skater, was not an out and out speedster like Paajarvi. I think Dvorak is looking like a closer comp to Paajarvi because he was lightning fast, and goal-scoring was a bit of a challenge for him despite lots of opportunities (he did have a couple of good years). Both were valuable players, of course.

    Re: Arena dealio

    Oil now down to 86 bucks and change! This is not good for provincial finances and any alleged future contrubution to Katz’s Biltmore Ice Palace. (It also means your kids’ kids will be on the hook for more of your every own provincial government’s spending, but nobody ever seems to care that their standard of living is financed on the backs of future generations, so just ignore that bit). If Oil continues to drop, the province’s budgetary issues will be an absolute nightmare.

    For those that care (and I realize that might be no one, so I apologize for the OT reference) but the bid to cover on the UST 2 year auction today was over 4 to 1 on a instrument that yields just under a third of a cent on a dollar! This heavily bid auction represents an astounding flight to safety. Just sayin.

  26. jonrmcleod says:

    Was there a penalty called in the play pictured above?

  27. VOR says:

    LT,

    In the last post where you mentioned Paajarvi I suggested that thinking of him as the next Pisani might be the correct approach.

    I also said that the problem seems to be how little attention Oilers management paid to the player they were selecting. Particularly the parts that said (on the negative side) doesn`t have an NHL quality shot and he is a tremendous playmaker (on the positive side). He should be out there with people who can shoot the puck and keep up with him stride for stride. Thus, I seem some merit in the idea of a Paajarvi, Hall, Yakupov line. Minimally NHL defences are going to start backing up the minute any of them touch the puck.

    The scouting reports and what we have all seen MPS do in the NHL and now AHL would make him about as wrong a player to put with RNH and Eberle as possible. They like to carry the puck and make plays and have tea in the other teams end. Paajarvi will be having fits trying to fill all the defence holes those two guys leave (if they ever lose the puck) and won`t be bringing anything to the line because the other two guys want to enter the zone in possession of the puck every bit as much as he does. They need a mucker who is impossible to move from in front of the net and creates space for them. Hartikainen (who I love) seems admirably suited to the job.

    Additionally, I can see a pattern developing. Paajarvi had two really good games last year in the NHL. Both times he was paired with Shawn Horcoff. Horcoff explained the one game by saying in the media that he had told Paajarvi something like `don`t worry about playing defence. That`s my and Ales`job, we`re the veterans. You just take the puck and go`. His scouting reports all stressed how hard MPS had worked to learn to play defence and how committed he was to it. Too committed I`d say. His Goals per 60 against in the NHL last year was insanely good but he destroyed what little offence his linemates had by being utterly out of sync with them.

    He has looked out of sync with Eberle and RNH as well I think for the reasons I cite above. On the other hand he and VDV seem to have some sort of understanding about who does what. They played well together last year and are doing it again this year. In some ways VDV plays the same sort of game as Horcoff. He fills the seams, wherever they occur. He also doesn`t like to carry the puck. So Paajarvi goes and VDV who is a + skater fills the empty hole. Sadly, neither Paajarvi nor VDV can score but then again these days neither can Horcoff.

    My point is I suspect Paajarvi is very hard to play with because he is never where a conventional player would be because he is so fast. I can see him playing 3rd line left wing with two veterans like Horcoff and Hemsky (one of who is also never where he should be anyway) or fourth line minutes on a serious outplay line if we could find a Doug Jarvis to play with him. There are times (particularly when he plays in the NHL) that VDV looks like filling that job.

    It is clear Paajarvi can kill penalties, play on a 2nd unit powerplay if needed, and outchance at almost any level of competition. If he is capable of doing in the NHL playoffs what he has done in WJC, WC, and AHL playoffs (raising the level of his game) then he is admirably suited to the Pisani role. I do want to point out that nobody ever said Gainey didn`t cover his draft spot and a fourth line Gainey who becomes a playoff Pisani would move the Oilers much closer to a Stanley Cup and be an incredibly valuable piece of the puzzle.

    I fail to see whether or not Paajarvi plays 1st line minutes in the AHL has any relevance to whether he can fill the Gainey-Pisani role. What we need somebody to do is pay attention to the quality of his competition. Is he outplaying the best offensive players in the AHL – then he is well on his way. If not, then you should worry about saving him.

  28. alice13 says:

    The Howlin for You video is a must-see. I could tell you it’s a spoof-trailer for a Mexican outlaw sex and revenge thriller, but I know you kids wouldn’t be interested in that stuff,

    http://tinyurl.com/4ea2cbv

  29. godot10 says:

    spoiler:

    Re: Arena dealio

    Oil now down to 86 bucks and change!This is not good for provincial finances and any alleged future contrubution to Katz’s Biltmore Ice Palace.(It also means your kids’ kids will be on the hook for more of your every own provincial government’s spending, but nobody ever seems to care that their standard of living is financed on the backs of future generations, so just ignore that bit).If Oil continues to drop, the province’s budgetary issues will be an absolute nightmare.

    For those that care (and I realize that might be no one, so I apologize for the OT reference) but the bid to cover on the UST 2 year auction today was over 4 to 1 on a instrument that yields just under a third of a cent on a dollar!This heavily bid auction represents an astounding flight to safety. Just sayin.

    Provincial oil sands royalties are essentially deferred until the projects pay back their capital costs, but all the oilsands development create enormous public and social infrastructure costs for municipal and provincial governments (education, building schools, hospitals, roads) for all the labour and supporting industry for the oilsands.

    Instead of using debt, perhaps the Alberta government could securitize a portion future oil sands royalties to pay for current costs created by developing the oilsands, and sell the securities to pension funds and investors who are looking for yield in the current low interest rate environment.

    But then Alberta would be selling off the upside of peak oil. With interest rates so low, long term debt financing locking in long low interest rates is probably a better option than selling off a future royalty windfall via securitization. I’m sure Bay Street would love the profits from securitizing future oil royalties because Albertans were paranoid of financing a little debt at one in a century low long term interest rates.

    Those Calgary oil and gas men really screwed their own pooch not anticipating the natural gas boom, and underbuilding oil transport infrastructure. So much for the private sector being smarter than the government sector. Now they are selling off their companies to foreign countries at bargain basement prices because of their short-sighted stupidity and in the case of Nexen, nearly outrageous mismanagement of their own company.

  30. Bob Arctor says:

    spoiler:

    Oil now down to 86 bucks and change!This is not good for provincial finances and any alleged future contrubution to Katz’s Biltmore Ice Palace.(It also means your kids’ kids will be on the hook for more of your every own provincial government’s spending, but nobody ever seems to care that their standard of living is financed on the backs of future generations, so just ignore that bit).If Oil continues to drop, the province’s budgetary issues will be an absolute nightmare.

    Canadian crude is trading at a discount ($3-$40) to WTI. Not sure how the royalty system works but I’d imagine producers are paying off of their selling price (correct me if I’m wrong). Government revenue forecast is based on WTI price. It’s worse than you think.

  31. godot10 says:

    The twinning fo Highway 63.

    Should the taxpayer really pay for it. Why not just sell the highway to engineering firms, private equity, and/or pension funds and let them twin it and make it a toll road? And then the users (primarily the oil sands industry and industry based off the oil sands industry would end up paying for it.

  32. crude says:

    I probably missed you already posting this one LT.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zxpM0fY1E

    Go Bairns!

  33. "Steve Smith" says:

    DSF:
    Ohio – Crosby, Stills and Nash.

    It’s not like he’s short of recognition around here, but you’re leaving out the guy who wrote the damned song and sang lead vocals.

  34. spoiler says:

    Bob Arctor: Canadian crude is trading at a discount ($3-$40) to WTI. Not sure how the royalty system works but I’d imagine producers are paying off of their selling price (correct me if I’m wrong). Government revenue forecast is based on WTI price. It’s worse than you think.

    Actually no, it’s not worse than I thought. Almost all crude trades at a discount to benchmark but it is the benchmark that sets the price. The Alberta Gov’t budget gnomes are fully aware of this and it is taken into consideration.

    godot10: Provincial oil sands royalties are essentially deferred until the projects pay back their capital costs, but all the oilsands development create enormous public and social infrastructure costs for municipal and provincial governments (education, building schools, hospitals, roads) for all the labour and supporting industry for the oilsands.Instead of using debt, perhaps the Alberta government could securitize a portion future oil sands royalties to pay for current costs created by developing the oilsands, and sell the securities to pension funds and investors who are looking for yield in the current low interest rate environment.But then Alberta would be selling off the upside of peak oil. With interest rates so low, long term debt financing locking in long low interest rates is probably a better option than selling off a future royalty windfall via securitization. I’m sure Bay Street would love the profits from securitizing future oil royalties because Albertans were paranoid of financing a little debt at one in a century low long term interest rates.Those Calgary oil and gas men really screwed their own pooch not anticipating the natural gas boom, and underbuilding oil transport infrastructure. So much for the private sector being smarter than the government sector. Now they are selling off their companies to foreign countries at bargain basement prices because of their short-sighted stupidity and in the case of Nexen, nearly outrageous mismanagement of their own company.

    There’s a lot more in that budget than just oil sands infrastructure spending. The province is getting killed in other areas. If Natgas hadn’t floated back up this year to something resembling normalcy, I’d think we’d be talking about a catastrophic year for the provincial government.

    I don’t have any breakdown handy, but I suspect that there is some significant interest rate risk to the rolling over of provincial debt (judging by a recent IMF report).

    And then there’s the Forex risk to the Oilers, but the Bank of Canada report today was pretty bullish for the dollar medium term (ie no further lowering of interest rates and a possible increase in a year).

  35. spoiler says:

    Good comments, though Bob and Godot, thanks for engaging in the discussion.

  36. spoiler says:

    godot10: The twinning fo Highway 63. Should the taxpayer really pay for it. Why not just sell the highway to engineering firms, private equity, and/or pension funds and let them twin it and make it a toll road? And then the users (primarily the oil sands industry and industry based off the oil sands industry would end up paying for it.

    This is exactly what should happen.

  37. Truth says:

    godot10:
    The twinning fo Highway 63.

    Should the taxpayer really pay for it.Why not just sell the highway to engineering firms, private equity, and/or pension funds and let them twin it and make it a toll road?And then the users (primarily the oil sands industry and industry based off the oil sands industry would end up paying for it.

    Wouldn’t these fees just be carried back into the price of fuel? If every bar on Whyte ave had to pay extra for every shipment of beer they received would you not expect the beer to cost more on Whyte than on Jasper?

    I also believe its a measure of safety. It only makes sense to twin 63 with the volume of traffic it receives. No different than Hwy 2 or 43 or 1. Farmer Joe in Manning couldn’t care less how long it takes an Edmontonian to drive to Calgary. No tolls on Hwy 2.

    Also, practically every industry in Alberta has a stake in the Oilsands. They sure aren’t paying $15/hr to flip burgers in Newfoundland.

    Anyway, hockey site.

    Can somebody please tell Sportsnet to televise all OKC games till the end of the lockout.

  38. Lowetide says:

    VOR: As best I can tell, I seem to have struck a nerve somewhere along the line. Sometimes happens, we’re all passionate about the Oilers. I do believe Paajarvi is a great young prospect and also believe he has enough offense to play with skill. That’s my hope, that the Oilers can put him with two gifted kids and have Paajarvi play the ‘defensive conscience’ on the line.

  39. Bob Arctor says:

    spoiler: Actually no, it’s not worse than I thought.Almost all crude trades at a discount to benchmark but it is the benchmark that sets the price. The Alberta Gov’t budget gnomes are fully aware of this and it is taken into consideration.

    I found this but wasn’t sure how accurate it was:

    “And while the Alberta government calculates the percentage of its royalties from the WTI benchmarks, government royalty revenues are derived from the price Alberta’s oil actually sells at. If global oil prices drop, and the spread between the WTI value and the actual selling price continues to widen, provincial coffers could face a double whammy”

    Rosy provincial forecasts fail to materialize as falling oil prices put budgets in peril

    I didn’t intend to suggest they weren’t aware of the spread (nor you).

  40. spoiler says:

    Truth: Wouldn’t these fees just be carried back into the price of fuel? If every bar on Whyte ave had to pay extra for every shipment of beer they received would you not expect the beer to cost more on Whyte than on Jasper? I also believe its a measure of safety. It only makes sense to twin 63 with the volume of traffic it receives. No different than Hwy 2 or 43 or 1. Farmer Joe in Manning couldn’t care less how long it takes an Edmontonian to drive to Calgary. No tolls on Hwy 2.Also, practically every industry in Alberta has a stake in the Oilsands. They sure aren’t paying $15/hr to flip burgers in Newfoundland.Anyway, hockey site. Can somebody please tell Sportsnet to televise all OKC games till the end of the lockout.

    Prices are affected anyways, through increased taxes or royalty splitting (or whatever pays for the infrastructure), the costs of which are then passed back to the consumers. There is no free lunch.

    Back to Hockey:

    Regwald mentioned Terry Jones’ article above, which provided some nice capsule reviews and scouting reports of players taken in the 2010 draft. Thank you, sir!

    It appears that “Big” has spent the past week in OKC, filing a couple of stories on Marincin too.. Apparently Marinicin and Gernat spent the entire summer in Edmonton, mostly working in their English. I found this quote from Tambo of interest:

    ““His English is 100% better now — and I mean 100%,” said Tambellini. “For two years in Prince George he was unable to understand the coach. That’s how good his natural instincts for the game are. He wasn’t able to communicate but he was able to play.””

    I see also from the 2010 story, that injuries have been management’s biggest concern for Hamilton: the 2 collar bone injuries in Junior and then the knee injury last season.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Love the stuff on Pelss. They had to add him to the Central list, hahaha. One thing about that article that I don’t agree with is the quote from the OKC GM:

    “It’s extremely rare to get that many guys to the AHL from one draft, much less than to have them all there at the same time so soon after the draft.”

    The 2003 Oilers draft produced many AHL players.

  42. ItsTheBGB says:

    Is there a stream of the game for free?

  43. regwald says:

    Lowetide:
    Love the stuff on Pelss. They had to add him to the Central list, hahaha. One thing about that article that I don’t agree with is the quote from the OKC GM:

    “It’s extremely rare to get that many guys to the AHL from one draft, much less than to have them all there at the same time so soon after the draft.”

    The 2003 Oilers draft produced many AHL players.

    The other part of that quote is it appears by adding him, it doesn’t become common knowledge to all other teams. He just becomes eligible. So, it’s like “finders keepers” rules for drafting.

  44. Derek says:

    Pajaarvi sets up Eberle on a shorthanded rush, Eberle kicks it in and the goal is waved off.

  45. voxwah says:

    Derek,

    Thanks Derek :)

  46. Derek says:

    LE immediately scores in the other end, a PP goal by Lerg.

  47. voxwah says:

    Brian Lerg…Woot!…no wait…

  48. Derek says:

    RNH! PP goal

  49. Kert says:

    Schultz is a dangerous man.

  50. Backhand says:

    Watching these games on line you truly understand all those comments about Schultz “getting the shot through”. He’s not really into the slapper, he likes to slide up and fire a sneaky wrister. If I played with him I’d sit on the far post and look for the rebounds coming off his tricky shots.

    I have to say Pitlick looks good in a fast and physical way. He goes full speed into corners and will come out with the puck (at this level). Lets hope he puts it together and becomes the player we want him to be.

  51. Derek says:

    He looked a little dangerous in his own end there for a bit, a little too casual with the clearing attempt.

  52. fuzzy muppet says:

    I know the defense isn’t a world beater, but this is the third game I’ve watched Danis so far and he’s been average at best. I’d like to see more Roy

  53. Derek says:

    Ugly Lake Erie goal with all the Barons big boys on the ice. A really bad camera angle there as they switched to the corner camera just as the goal was scored but it looked pretty ugly on Danis’ part. The first goal against was kind of suspect as well.

    E – Yea he most certainly hasn’t looked like the reigning AHL ‘tender of the year so far in my viewings.

  54. fuzzy muppet says:

    Ebersqeeee

  55. Derek says:

    Eberle pots one on the PP from RNH.

  56. Lowetide says:

    Looked like Hartikainen got some wood on it.

  57. fuzzy muppet says:

    Lowetide,

    It’s so hard to tell with the crappy cameras in the AHL

  58. Lowetide says:

    True that.

  59. Derek says:

    According to the Barons score sheet OKC’s first was scored by RNH from Eberle and Schultz, and the second was Eberle from Harski and RNH. Shots 15-13 in favor of the Barons.

    It seems like the Barons are outchancing them 2:1 to my eye. Did their other games vs the Monsters go like this because it seems like the shots were close in each contest.

    http://theahl.com/stats/official-game-report.php?game_id=1009934

  60. Lowetide says:

    Schultz with 3 shots tonight. Who was the last Oiler defenseman who shot this much AND could move the puck? Has to be a dozen years ago. Hamrlik?

  61. "Steve Smith" says:

    Lowetide:
    Schultz with 3 shots tonight. Who was the last Oiler defenseman who shot this much AND could move the puck? Has to be a dozen years ago. Hamrlik?

    I’m still going to say Pitkanan.

    I loved Pitkanen.

  62. Derek says:

    Uh oh

  63. Derek says:

    Harski from Pajaarvi and Schultz on the PP!

    3-2 Barons

  64. Lowetide says:

    Hartikainen (Paajarvi, Schultz)

  65. jake70 says:

    Lowetide:
    Schultz with 3 shots tonight. Who was the last Oiler defenseman who shot this much AND could move the puck? Has to be a dozen years ago. Hamrlik?

    This is something I wanted Gilbert to do more of, he had a good wrister as well. I think he got caught up in the “pass it into the net” culture we’ve seen so much of in recent years.

    Schultz shooting, Hall likes to shoot, Yak likes to shoot. This bodes well. Let Ales and RNH pass it around, they’ll have several shoot first -ask questions later options.

  66. Giant Squid Overlord says:

    ATDHE feed is “offline”. Anybody have another?

  67. gr8one says:

    Giant Squid Overlord:
    ATDHE feed is “offline”. Anybody have another?

    anyone, anyone?!??

  68. Kaiser Permanante Power Play says:

    crude,

    Deadly

  69. Lowetide says:

    I got nothing, gents.

  70. Derek says:

    Seems like the AHL official feed had a bit of a hiccup and ATDHE hasn’t hit refresh yet. No streams that I can see so far.

    Heres a radio link: http://www.live365.com/stations/okcbarons?play=2

  71. crude says:

    Kaiser Permanante Power Play:
    crude,

    Deadly

    “Kaiser Permanente Power Play”. Best handle I have ever seen Ha.

  72. OilLeak says:

    I have to say Paajarvi is consistently one of the more dangerous players on the ice, he’s becoming more aggressive offensively and is very good defensively.

    Paajarvi’s a keeper.

  73. Derek says:

    The ATDHE feed is back up.

  74. TheBusDriver86 says:

    Not sure if everybody knows yet but Yakupov scored the game winner today with 10 seconds left from about 30 ft out.

  75. gr8one says:

    TheBusDriver86:
    Not sure if everybody knows yet but Yakupov scored the game winner today with 10 seconds left from about 30 ft out.

    I saw that, crazy lazer. Man that kid can shoot.

  76. ItsTheBGB says:

    Tyson Barrie is a gem.

  77. Derek says:

    That was a nice rush, Eberle just about potted another one. Who was the puck carrier on that, Paajarvi?

  78. RENNAVATE says:

    Another Schultz assist?

  79. fuzzy muppet says:

    i think they fixed the PP…

  80. OilLeak says:

    PP is on fire!

  81. Derek says:

    RNH from Eberle and Schultz.

  82. Lowetide says:

    Nuge (Eberle, Schultz). 9 points for Schultz now, he’s tied for league lead.

  83. Derek says:

    The OKC PP was 1/17 prior to this game, correct? What a swing.

  84. RENNAVATE says:

    Lowetide,

    That is insane…

  85. Lois Lowe says:

    It feels weird to be hopeful for the Oilers future. Schultz is clearly ready for the NHL and Yak hasn’t looked out of place in the K. If we had some insurance in goal, and if there was a season, I think we’d be competitive most nights.

  86. Derek says:

    A second Barons goal waved off, currently under review. No goal.

  87. fuzzy muppet says:

    Lowetide,

    Whats most amazing to me is that he never seems to leave the ice. Maybe it’s just that He’s so noticable

  88. jp says:

    No goal.

    Wonder if the officials have better video to work with than we have….

  89. Lowetide says:

    Jesus. Schultz is amazing at this level.

  90. "Steve Smith" says:

    Lowetide:
    Jesus. Schultz is amazing at this level.

    He’s making my policy of believing that he’ll contribute in the NHL when I see it harder and harder to adhere to, for sure.

  91. Derek says:

    Man. Pitlick got some wheels.

  92. striatic says:

    uhg poor PRV! works so hard for so little.

  93. Derek says:

    RIngwald and Martindale working defensively in the same corner is goddamn terrifying.

  94. Lowetide says:

    that was a nice little segment there by Pitlick.

  95. striatic says:

    have to hand it to the Monsters .. they are giving their all to keep this thing going.

  96. fuzzy muppet says:

    Lowetide,

    His ability seems wasted playing with VDV and Byers. I’d like to see him in a scoring role…

  97. striatic says:

    giving RNH the D-Zone face-off there was interesting.

  98. Lowetide says:

    Nuge has done quite well in the FO circle, Eric Rodgers has been tweeting his numbers.

  99. striatic says:

    phew.

  100. striatic says:

    Lowetide,

    what have his numbers been like?

  101. steveb12344 says:

    Ya know, despite the stunning low def feed. That was a pretty entertaining game.

  102. striatic says:

    ah, here we go:

    Faceoffs: (I missed one or two at the start of the period) RNH 15/22, Lander 8/13, VandeVelde 9/16, Martindale 4/11. – https://twitter.com/AHLBarons/status/260934145432244224

  103. Lowetide says:

    Rodgers posts home game #’s, tonight Nuge was 15/22. I believe he’s been N of 50 each game.

  104. striatic says:

    steveb12344,

    the Monsters aren’t pushovers. they lead their division and going 2-2 with them isn’t as horrible as it looks.

    i think both the Monsters and the Barons will benefit from having played this series to start their respective seasons.

  105. Lowetide says:

    The good thing is we’re 5 games in and Nuge=Ebs are up to game speed. Now, when Hall gets rolling this team is going to be frightening. Need a vet LH D though.

  106. striatic says:

    also curious to see how the barons do once they meet up with some of the truly low tier western conference teams like the Ice Hogs, Griffins and Stars.

  107. Giant Squid Overlord says:

    Nelson in the post-game radio interview stated that in a recent talk with Tambo he found out that MPS played the point on PP. Should he not know this? Did he have any idea what the big club was doing? Hard to believe.

    “You couldn’t stick a greased needle up my butt I was so nervous”. – Nelson on the ending of the game. He has some Quinnisms.

  108. PaperDesigner says:

    One thing to remember in this Paajarvi/Hartikainen comparison–they are both young enough that being drafted two years apart matters significantly. I am still confident Paajarvi is going to put it together. Too bad Eberle’s skate got in the way of a second point.

  109. jp says:

    Lowetide:
    The good thing is we’re 5 games in and Nuge=Ebs are up to game speed. Now, when Hall gets rolling this team is going to be frightening. Need a vet LH D though.

    Great to hear Nuge is doing well on the FOs! And they really do need another decent D there – Ringwald isn’t really cutting it….

  110. PaperDesigner says:

    I just had an epiphany about who Justin Schultz is. He is the version of Robbie Schremp that existed in the imaginations of Oilers fans in the mid 2000s. Only a defenseman.

  111. VOR says:

    LT,

    The nerve you hit was each time you mentioned Paajarvi recently you’ve invoked for me “The Pieces Don’t Fit Anymore”. Perhaps it is your emotional tenor, the fact you would so like MPS to succeed. Whatever it is you’ve succeeded in calling up a musical memory I haven’t had in years.

    “The Pieces Don’t Fit Anymore” – for those who haven’t heard it is a fairly obscure song by a talented young Brit, James Morrison, who managed to trap himself in a musical niche that can best be descriped as songs for the lovelorn. God only knows why that one song got into my head, love ballads are not my thing. It is all about knowing a love affair is over and at the same time trying to keep it alive.

    As it plays in my head I am forced to consider that maybe at last the Oilers are one of the pieces that don’t fit anymore. Then the melancholy sets in, and the over reaction. My apologies.

  112. dessert1111 says:

    Looks like I missed a good game and the first time the PP came alive :( Thanks everyone for posting comments, they are nice to read to get an idea what happened.

  113. Dipstick says:

    Would the Monsters lose players if/when the lockout ends? That team could easily be the odds on favorites to win the league championship. Very impressive.

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