The top 20 list this winter is a bear. Seriously. The top 5 were easy (Nail, Schultz!, Klefbom, Marincin and Hartikainen) but after that there’s a long list of higher picks underperforming, last year’s emerging talents playing like this year’s NP’s, and a couple of forgotten Finns posting some impressive numbers.

So, I’ve decided to pick this point in the conversation to remind you of what holds value on the Lowetide top 20. I hold “wide range of skills” dear, so a big man with good hands and foot speed will be favored over a player with fewer skills who is more of a finished prospect.

What does that mean? Well, this week I’ll be posting names 6-10 for this winter’s 20 and unlike the top 5 there has been a lot of movement. #6 first thing tomorrow.

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15 Responses to "A FEW WORDS ABOUT THE TOP 20"

  1. TheBusDriver86 says:

    I am excited

  2. crude says:

    this is going to be great

  3. spoiler says:

    Has anyone thanked Eric Tillman recently?

  4. jp says:

    LT, could you remind us what your definition of a prospect is? No doubt you’ve told us in the past, but I’m forgetting. Just thinking about it since Paajarvi and Lander feel like they ought to be prospects. They’ve both been full-time NHLers then played themselves back to prospect status, but they’re both still young, so continuing to consider them prospects feels right. I presume they won’t be included, but you did include Hartikainen who is no longer Calder eligible (just barely).

    Thanks, and enjoy the series!

  5. Lowetide says:

    JP: It is 50 NHL games, 40 for goalies. However, Lander is a special case in that the Oilers played him in 57 but he’s still clearly working on getting there.

    Not eligible: Hall, Nuge, Eberle, Petry, anyone who has played 50+ NHL games. And then guys like Bumagin or Motin the organization clearly has no interest in. Hesketh. That Swedish guy Quist, he’s not eligible. But Arcobello is.

    Here are all the players I considered:

    Nail Yakupov
    Justin Schultz
    Oscar Klefbom
    Martin Marincin
    Martin Gernat
    Teemu Hartikainen
    Tobias Rieder
    Tyler Bunz
    Daniil Zharkov
    Tyler Pitlick
    Olivier Roy
    David Musil
    Colten Teubert
    Mitchell Moroz
    Dillon Simpson
    Jujhar Khaira
    Curtis Hamilton
    Erik Gustafsson
    Brandon Davidson
    Taylor Fedun
    Cameron Abney
    Mark Arcobello
    Tanner House
    Ryan Martindale
    Kristians Pelss
    Alex Plante
    Antti Tyrvainen
    Chris VandeVelde
    Phil Cornet
    Toni Rajala
    Travis Ewanyk
    Kyle Bigos
    Kellen Jones
    Joey Laleggia
    John McCarron
    Samu Perhonen
    Frans Tuohimaa

  6. jp says:

    Cool, thanks.

    I’ll go ahead and slot Paajarvi in at #5 and Lander somewhere later in the top 10 on my own “prospect” list. :)

  7. Bob Arctor says:

    Where can we see your pre 2007 top 20 prospects write-ups?

  8. Kris11 says:

    I’ll guess the next five, in order, are:

    Pitlick, Rieder, Musil, Gernat

    Really not sure how you (or how you should) slot the goalies.

    There is a lot of drop off after the top 5, and maybe no more than one or two half-decent players. IMO.

  9. Lowetide says:

    Kris11: The 2010 winter list was the best

  10. BlacqueJacque says:

    My guess is Jujar? 8 points in 10 games with Michigan Tech. Quite impressive for a college rookie. Michigan Tech is in the WCHA, along with other top-flight Divison 1 programs like Wisconsin, North Dakota, Michigan, and Denver.

    Mitch isn’t even on pace to match his goal-scoring from last year, and barely exceeding PPG.

  11. Kris11 says:

    Blacque is probably right.

    Me iz dumb.

  12. jp says:

    Wow, that 2010 list is something.

    Looking at those two lists, it’s interesting how both Gilbert and Petry weren’t particularly highly touted until they arrived in the show. I guess they both got docked for being older prospects, but it’s kinda surprising that even when they were playing well in the AHL it wasn’t clear they’d be decent NHLers. Then they turned into top 4 NHL guys real quick. Let’s hope that Fedun can follow Gilbert/Petry rather than Chorney…

    Also, I think Gernat is up next. He’s not dead, just injured.

  13. nelson88 says:


    I can’t speak to Gilbert early on but LT just didn’t like Petry very much back in those days. Kind of Smid’s half brother…. ;)

  14. CrazyCoach says:

    I’m biased but I’d second Blaque Jaque with Khaira in the top ten.

    Khaira just seemed to get better every game, and encouraging thing was that his growth curve seemed to be limitless during his time here in PG.

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