OKC V SAN ANTONIO 28.12.12

I don’t know that the glory Barons are ever going to outscore the mistakes, but these young men are fun to watch play the game of hockey.

I’m kind of torn on the lockout now. If the NHL stays away until October, the Barons kids can have a lash at playoff hockey and push deep into the spring providing enjoyable hockey. However, positives are piling up everywhere amongst Oiler players:

  • Eberle is having another impact season. That’s 2 in a row and a very good sign. 
  • Taylor Hall’s hat trick tips us that he’s close to being all the way back.
  • Justin Schultz.
  • Dubnyk was outstanding at the Spengler yesterday.
  • The pro’s playing seem to be having fine seasons–Hemsky, Gagner, others.
  • Ryan Smyth spent the lockout helping Mitch Moroz with the goalmouth etiquette and then returned to the Spengler with Bobby Hull’s slapshot.

Have the Oilers found a useful item in Mark Arcobello? I think we’re at a point where the player should get some consideration for at least a 10 game audition in the NHL. Now, I’m completely aware that he’s in a fabulous spot, but it’s also true that there were other candidates for his current role and Arcobello won the day. He can make a difference at evens in the AHL and can play with skilled men at that level. Can he fill a role in the NHL?

My concern would be that he’d play 4line minutes  for a week and get sent back down. Arcobello would need to play with good hockey players in order to have success. How many of those does Edmonton have on the 3rd and 4th lines? Would you consider giving Arcobello a chance between Ryan Smyth and Ryan Jones after the lockout ends?

What say you?

The NHL has made a new offer, details here. I am so tired of the back and forth, they get it done or they don’t; let me know when the Oilers are on my television, after that I’m out.

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  1. Lucinius says:

    I’ll continue here…

    USA ties it up on PP, Zharkov failed to block the shot (he was going down to do so, but was a touch slow).

    Edit: Actually, he got hit with the puck going down to block the shot.. a little faster and he would’ve properly blocked it.

    Yakupov is trying to do it all himself.. the USA defensemen continue to handle him easily in the 1v1s he’s forcing.

  2. ItsTheBGB says:

    Yeah, Nail’s gotta change it up, real fast. He’s rendering himself useless, yet he’s the best player on the ice.

  3. Lucinius says:

    Unfortunately for Canada, however, unless Subban steps it up, I really don’t see him stacking up well in a game against the Americans or Russians, especially with how Makarov and Gibson look to have their switches turned on.

  4. RexLibris says:

    On Arcobello – if he were Martindale’s size we’d be talking about a Ryan Johansen type center, perhaps. Between Smyth and Jones would be an interesting idea, but that means that Horcoff is out, or relegated to 4th line and Belanger is out.

    It is too much of a gamble to move Gagner and replace him with Arcobello yet, so the 2nd line spot isn’t likely to happen either. If we ever get a season, the training camp could prove interesting. I know I’d be cheering for him.

    We might just see a season yet. If so, it wouldn’t be the worst thing for the Barons’ players to try and get along without the big three (and possibly Hartikainen as well). I’m still of the opinion that Pitlick, Marincin and company can perform on this AHL squad and get the team into the playoff picture.

  5. Radman says:

    At work, so appreciate the WJ updates fellas.
    LT, I don’t know a ton about Arcobello. I see him listed at 5’9″ and 165. Another small skill guy doesn’t seem like a fit with the Oil, unless they move some players. If you are playing him as a 3rd line center between Smitty and Jones what happens to Horcoff ( ?amnesty buy-out ). He might get a call up, but I suspect they would have Lander and VV slotted ahead of him for the big team.

  6. Bar_Qu says:

    RexLibris,

    I agree OKC could make playoffs too, but it would be a test of depth in the org for certain. At least some of those guys stuck in Stockton would get a chance to contribute and get good minutes.

    And if the season does start, then it seems a virtual certainty there will be an amnesty buyout (now its on the table, it won’t come off). Which means good-bye SHorcov in all likelihood and hello giant hole in the centre position.

    And Yakupov doesn’t seem like such a muck-raker for calling Canada dirty now. Those boys need to start playing within the rules a little more if they don’t want to finish the tourney with only 3 full forward lines available to play. Sheesh.

  7. Lucinius says:

    Looks like the Bear is getting pissy. Two times straight after a whistle they’ve gotten very active.

  8. Lucinius says:

    Refs are really letting things go in this game; it’s like the NHL in the playoffs.

    Third time I’ve seen Zharkov in the last two games go down.

    The game has been pretty good. Overall I’d say the Americans have been better, but Makarov has edged out Gibson in goaltending.

  9. Lucinius says:

    Russians win 2-1. Were killing a penalty for the last 1:35 or so, so it was mostly 6 skaters to 4. Yakupov had a gutsy block; dove head first to block a shot and send it out of play. He may be the most skilled player, but in terms of being an offensive threat, thus far I wouldn’t put him in Russia’s top six based on play.

    9 for 9 in my game predictions thus far in the TSN Challenge pool and I’m up almost 2 grand in betting.

  10. Radman says:

    Looks like the offer from the league today will include one buy out that doesn’t count against the cap. Mystery solved as to what happens to Horcoff…

  11. Ducey says:

    Radman:
    Looks like the offer from the league today will include one buy out that doesn’t count against the cap. Mystery solved as to what happens to Horcoff…

    I’d be surprised if they bought out Horcoff. Is he overpaid? Yes. But he is a useful player – a tough minutes center on a team not blessed with a lot of centers, vets, or tough minute players. His actual salary is $6 million this year but he will only get a portion of that. Then his salary will go down to 4 and then 3. He should be tradeable in the offseason to a team that needs help getting to the Cap floor.

    I’d de more inclined to buy out Bulin, who will at best play 20 games for his $3.75 M Cap hit, or perhaps Sutton, seeing he is unlikely to play.

  12. commonfan14 says:

    It’ll be interesting to see what the full rules around the buyouts will be. I’m assuming teams won’t be able to buy a guy out and then re-sign him (or else teams with $ could just buy out their best, most expensive guy, sign him back for the league minimum, and spend like crazy), so it’ll likely be goodbye forever to the Captain if the Oil go that way.

  13. commonfan14 says:

    Ducey: I’d de more inclined to buy out Bulin, who will at best play 20 games for his $3.75 M Cap hit, or perhaps Sutton, seeing he is unlikely to play.

    Sutton won’t count against the cap if he can’t play though, right? And Khabby isn’t a problem beyond this year, so why bother if you have to pay him either way?

    If they’re going to use that option, they should use it on a guy who creates a long-term, significant cap problem.

  14. hunter1909 says:

    The very best time of the year, with no work to worry and everyone forget about Oilers buying out Horcoff, not with his cheap seasons about to kick in. He’ll probably end up on the roster for the next 3-4 years, lol.

    It’s trading Gagner away that feeds the paranoid delusional in me better.

    Even better, Nail Yakupov(why do I feel a need to type out his full name on an Oilers forum?) supposedly isn’t even one of the best Russians at the junior tournament they’re holding in Russia – like as if one of the most supremely skilled natural goal scoring prospects the NHL has seen since the 90′s is going to care a tinker’s dam more than he wants to about anything but the light that lights his genius.

  15. hunter1909 says:

    Reading my own vomit/last post, I wonder what any of you might think what kind of instant impact the addition of Yaks and J. Schultz will have on the team, come whenever.

  16. hunter1909 says:

    Ducey,

    Khabibulin appears like an asset this coming season, no?

    Because he played lights out enough at the start of last season, that there should be GMs who will offer something of value.

  17. Radman says:

    Ducey: I’d be surprised if they bought out Horcoff. Is he overpaid? Yes. But he is a useful player – a tough minutes center on a team not blessed with a lot of centers, vets, or tough minute players. His actual salary is $6 million this year but he will only get a portion of that. Then his salary will go down to 4 and then 3. He should be tradeable in the offseason to a team that needs help getting to the Cap floor.I’d de more inclined to buy out Bulin, who will at best play 20 games for his $3.75 M Cap hit, or perhaps Sutton, seeing he is unlikely to play.

    Suspect Sutton’s money won’t count assuming LTIR. Bulin’s money comes off after this season. Agree with what you say about Horcoff’s value. The devil might be in the details, in terms of being able to re-sign an amnesty buyout at a lower rate. He has value to this team, but that cap hit stings. Agree it might be nice to save that card to play for a longer problematic contract, but they will have RHH and Shultz to sign in the last year of Horcoff’s deal, and they might want to redirect his 5.5M cap hit

  18. Gerta Rauss says:

    It’s all just speculation at this point but it seems to me that the compliance issues(cap and amnesty) will relate to the 13/14 season-so the buyout will be allowed/available in June. I like(d) Horcoff, but he seems to be the perfect candidate for a buyout unless another team is willing to take him off our hands.

  19. spoiler says:

    Watching the Jr replay…

    Funny how Ferraro was able to cite Hall and Eberle’s stats from yesterday’s game off the top of his head after the beauty RNH goal.

  20. spoiler says:

    Wow, there sure are a lot of cops at these games.

  21. Ducey says:

    Gerta Rauss: It’s all just speculation at this point but it seems to me that the compliance issues(cap and amnesty) will relate to the 13/14 season-so the buyout will be allowed/available in June. I like(d) Horcoff, but he seems to be the perfect candidate for a buyout unless another team is willing to take him off our hands.

    Yep. Looking at the details of the NHL offer today, the buyout would occur this summer. The only real candidate is Horcoff. Although if they wanted to get inventive, they could trade a Cam Abney for a buyout candidate and a prospect/ draft pick.

  22. Bos8 says:

    Haven’t watched yet. But the Oilers were unlucky in Galchenyuk getting hurt. I realize it would have been a gamble but a big center vs an undersized RW, (n matter the slight talent difference), was a no brainer in my estimation. And yes I’m aware of BP and all that. Thank God, they didn’t go for the undersized defenseman. Count our blessings.

  23. Gerta Rauss says:

    Ducey,

    Horcoff for Gomez..?…I could live with Gomez for 48 games then buy him out next summer.

    The Habs would have to sweeten with Subban before I make that deal however…:)

  24. B S says:

    Figures, 23 comments in and not one compliment towards Dubnyk. Haters gonna hate. In case you missed the Spengler yesterday he was perfect (5-0 Canada) and made some exceptional saves on breakaways in the third period. His lateral movement was also just fine, as was his stickhandling. And he closed up that five-hole well enough to make Patrick Kane look like a peewee player. Considering he went shifts without seeing the puck, and hadn’t played a game since last April he was well prepared and calm the whole game. I just hope he doesn’t get too good, the Oilers need him to be affordable.

    Edit: 24 comments

  25. Bruce McCurdy says:

    B S,

    Agree Dubnyk gets way too little respect, even within his own fanbase.

    But he does have his fans. Here’s a post on yesterday’s stellar effort written by one of them. :)

  26. EricRodgers_AHLBarons says:

    VandeVelde suspended 3 games for a hit to the head last night. Suspension starts tonight

  27. PunjabiOil says:

    Dubnyk has not established himself as a #1 goalie. Kevin Lowe even remarked goaltending was a question mark going forward.

    Dubnyk went into last season with the #1 spot, lost his job, and play from December to February was uninspiring. He needs to take the #1 spot and run away with it, to an extent people can call him a #1 goalie.

    We wait.

  28. Ducey says:

    Not sure what you are waiting for. DD was 24th in save % last year, tied with #1 goalie Craig Anderson and just ahead of another another #1 goalie, MA Fleury. This despite the fact he was playing behind a very substandard defensive team.

    There are 30 #1 goalies. DD is one of them.

  29. DeadmanWaking says:

    I know it’s a long-repressed fantasy to selectively excise the ghost of contracts past (half-season blunderbuss buyout: not so fun), but no way do they pour an ounce of molten gold into Horcoff’s ear with Krueger assuming two twisted-handfuls of reins on the yearling Mustang chariot. Not to mention that Katz appears tightly glued to his ingots and likely regards the cap more as a welcome relief, and less as an obstacle to circumvent in his plans for league and world domination.

    As slight as they seem, perhaps these drips-from-a-stone slush margin concessions might serve to pry open or rehydrate the stultified trade market. The previous CBA was clamped so tight that the NHL trade market resembled barter before the invention of shiny tokens of deferred gratification and the human insanity to hold these in preference to real goods.

    With a bit more grease in the chairs of watertight accountancy, we can perhaps moan more like King Hamlet–and less like his wife–about the doldrums of Dilochitès Dithers without risking the karma burn that he actually had lined up the perfect exchange of a prize bull, a donkey, and a rabbit for a stallion, a goose, a turkey, and two gophers only it all fell slack because it left one team juggling fifty-one contracts.

    There were just too many things that had to be exactly right: fair value, cap compatible this year (both sides), cap compatible next year (both sides), number of bodies exchanged, cash flow attractive to the ugly step-sister (an ever popular win-win), and armchair spin compatible.

    Of course, grease always leads to more late-season one-night-stands between buyers and sellers. There’s just too much inequity among teams not to have functioning red light district of some kind.

    Interesting if the final concession is Bettman hitching his skirt an inch or two and showing off some fancy Veet work.

  30. OilLeak says:

    I think everyone knows my opinion on Arcobello now, I think he can be useful player at the NHL level. Arcobello is a great even strength player and a decent pp option. His play really impressed me last season in the playoffs and so far this year. The guy has met every challenge so far and continues to produce even when relegated to third line duty at the beginning of the season. Big players constantly get the push time and time again even when they never produce, small players have to claw and fight just to earn their ice time despite their results. At some point some one has to take notice of his accomplishments and give the kid a real shot.

    /end rant.

  31. sliderule says:

    I like Arcobello and if they trade Gagner I think he could replace him quite nicely as the number two center.
    I know he is small but he battles and is at least as good defensively and from what I have seen will put up pretty good numbers offensively.

  32. bendelson says:

    DD appears to be receiving the ‘Alex Smith’ treatment to a certain extent.
    The stats are good enough for a #1 designation but the organization appears largely unconvinced.

    DD’s strange contract underlines this uncertainty…

  33. Lowetide says:

    AHEM……

    Oklahoma City Barons ‏@OKC_Barons

    #OKCBarons lines (C-LW-RW): Arcobello-Hall-Eberle, Lander-Paajarvi-Hartikainen, Green-Byers-Pitlick, House-Hamilton-Lizon

    Courtesy Eric Rodgers, the PROPER lineup! :-)

    and the D:

    Oklahoma City Barons ‏@OKC_Barons

    #OKCBarons D-Pairs: Deck/Schultz, Fedun/Teubert, Marincin/Plante. Olivier Roy in net

  34. voxwah says:

    Good working link:

    http://88.80.11.29/52557/watch-san-antonio-rampage-vs-oklahoma-city-barons

    Only one audio feed as well for once

  35. stevezie says:

    bendelson,

    Such a Bedelson thing to say.

  36. YoungOil says:

    voxwah:

    Only one audio feed as well for once

    Uh, not anymore. I still get two audio feeds. Anyone else?

  37. Lowetide says:

    John McCarron with a goal tonight for Cornell in a win, he has not enjoyed a strong season so far, but finished strong a year ago.

  38. OilLeak says:

    I can’t see the Barons remaining in OKC for much longer, Friday night game and the stands look barren.

  39. Lowetide says:

    Man, Hall and Eberle almost score at one end and then SA score at the other. 1-0 Rampage.

  40. OilLeak says:

    I know Nelson is trying to jump start Pitlick’s offense, but I don’t think he should be playing on the powerplay until he shows that he can do something with it.

  41. Lowetide says:

    Markstrom has stoned both Hall and eberle in this game. I am fairly comfortable in saying the goaltending has been the difference despite the poor defensive play by the Barons.

  42. Lowetide says:

    Hartikainen, from Hall and someone else but the period might be over.

  43. Lowetide says:

    Good goal! Hartikainen (Hall, Eberle).

  44. dessert1111 says:

    The Barons have been playing pretty much like shit tonight

  45. Lowetide says:

    They had a good first and followed it with their usual second period. I think the score reflects the game.

  46. stevezie says:

    Since the feed seems to be coming from some dude with a camcorder (honestly), I doubt we’ll get a replay, but holy smokes.

  47. Lowetide says:

    Arcobello from hall and Eberle, although it should be Arcobello unassisted.

  48. YoungOil says:

    Markstrom! Dang. AMAZING saves.

  49. stevezie says:

    I gather we’re going to overtime? If Schultz isn’t caeful this will be the first game all season in which the team scores but he doesn’t (one of his more amazing stats).

  50. regwald says:

    stevezie,

    AHL website says SO now …

    Magnus and Ebs with a goal, Lander and Hall with misses.

  51. stevezie says:

    Ignore me, clearly I wasn’t paying attention.

  52. YoungOil says:

    Barons win. Eberle and Paajarvi with the goals.

  53. delooper says:

    Clutch with the Eberle goal.

  54. Lowetide says:

    Barons win 3-2 in the shootout. Paajarvi ripped a beauty goal, Lander had a poor chance, Ebs scored a beauty and Hall didn’t do much. Anyway Barons win. I thought Roy was “okay” tonight but the defense was subpar.

    Better effort than last game though, despite the saggy bottom 2nd period.

  55. gogliano says:

    Eberle with 9 shots and zero goals. REGRESSION TO THE MEAN, it was inevitable.

    Crikey, Hall had 10 shots. 19 shots between two players. Throw in Arcobello’s 6 shots and you have a respectable # of shots for an entire team from the first line alone.

  56. FPB94 says:

    BTW: Can Horcoff be sent to the minors? I know Gomez can ; if you’re to pay a guy his full salary anyway, might as well save 500 000$ on that AHL veteran required to juice your farm club.

  57. slopitch says:

    Sounds like the players are ok with the offer outside the lack of cap on escrow. Gotta be close now …

  58. FPB94 says:

    This will be a weird season if it happens.

    Wonder if we’ll have to put an asterisk next to the cup ; I must say I really enjoyed the shortened NBA seasons, less games, less time, more competition for playoff spots…

    82 games is really too damn long.

  59. stevezie says:

    What I would like to do is swap Horcoff for some other team’s buyoutm then when they buy Horcoff out we can resign him on the cheap. I still think he has some use but that caphit is murder. There’s a guy ho needs to have a good season.

  60. FPB94 says:

    He’s been whack for the last 3 seasons.

    Idk which team would take Horcoff’s cap hit: You’d have to give a sweetener for that.

  61. VOR says:

    Bendelson,

    I think it is more likely Dubnyk is receiving the Alex English treatment . Poor DD, like English, doesn’t look good doing it, and he has terrible PR. The stats tell us Dubnyk is getting the job done, just as they did for poor Alex English.

    English, for those of you who don’t know, was drafted into the NBA to be a scorer. Per minute played he delivered. But he never shot a ball that looked like it should go in. He sometimes missed the backboard. Once, famously he missed so badly he hit the scoreboard. It didn’t matter how often the ball went in, the fans didn’t like English.

    I’m betting Dubnyk’s career turns out very like Alex English’s did. 5 seasons into his NBA career English was traded to the Denver Nuggets (his third team). Nobody even noticed, he was just another spare part by that time, a 5th starter, a bench warmer some nights.

    Then for ten straight years English ripped the NBA apart. Year after year he put the Nuggets on his back and carried them to the playoffs. He is the Rodney Dangerfield of basketball, legitmately in the Hall of Fame but most people still have no clue who he was. Those that do use him as a way of saying anybody can get into the Hall, after all they let Alex Englsih in and he was one ugly player.

    Far too many people believe they have seen Dubnyk bad. He will never get his due. Like English there will always be an asterix. The one that sticks to every ugly player. We will still be talking about pucks Dubnyk should have stopped when he is long retired.

  62. Gerta Rauss says:

    FPB94,

    BTW: Can Horcoff be sent to the minors?

    According to Capgeek he has a full NMC this year, a NTC next year, and in the final year of his deal he has neither. It sounds like burying him in the minors will still count against the cap under a new CBA, which brings us back to an amnesty buyout as the best option(or play him)

    82 games is really too damn long

    Agreed, way too long. 70 games is more than enough for a regular season.

    He’s been whack for the last 3 seasons.

    Agreed again-he has been poor for a while now. Yes, the team had no other options at C to play the tough minutes, but that’s on management. I think the optics of buying out the captain may be problematic, but they can frame it as a “financial decision” rather than performance related.

  63. Schitzo says:

    Re: the WJHC:

    I’m a big fan of Ray Ferraro, but it’s not the same without Pierre doing commentary. Two full Canada games over, and I have no idea where most of these kids went to high school or the names of their parents. I’m dying for an anecdote about Jordan Eberle or Dion Phaneuf.

    Wasn’t a fan of Gord Miller’s comments in the game today – repeatedly mentions Canada is down to 10 forwards like we’re the underdog. Hey Gord, guess who else is down two men? That team whose players had to leave via stretcher.

    Thought the USA would beat the Russians today – had them pegged to finish first in our pool. Not so much I guess.

    Subban makes me anxious ALL THE TIME. Can’t remember the last year that goaltending felt like a strength. Price? Bernier/Mason?

  64. Lucinius says:

    Price is indeed the last time we had a sure-fire goaltender in net for Canada at the Jrs.

    I’m really not sold on Subban. I know he can play well, but he’s emblematic of the entire problem with Canada at these tournaments; pedigree and name over results. He hasn’t overly hurt the Canadians yet, but we’ve yet to play anyone who can even hope to match our skill level. He’s clearly the fourth best goaltender, not counting the backups on Canada, out of Canada, USA, and Russia.

    I’d be;

    Makarov -> Gibson -> Vashlevsky(sp?) -> Subban, and its not even close.

  65. spoiler says:

    Schitzo:
    Re: the WJHC:

    I’m a big fan of Ray Ferraro, but it’s not the same without Pierre doing commentary.Two full Canada games over, and I have no idea where most of these kids went to high school or the names of their parents.I’m dying for an anecdote about Jordan Eberle or Dion Phaneuf.

    Wasn’t a fan of Gord Miller’s comments in the game today – repeatedly mentions Canada is down to 10 forwards like we’re the underdog.Hey Gord, guess who else is down two men?That team whose players had to leave via stretcher.

    The Slovaks weren’t down two men. Mikus was not injured on the Lipon elbow, and in fact scored on his very next shift.

    And no way on God’s Green Earth do I ever wish for Pierre McGuire to be a part if any hockey broadcast. Maybe that’s just a matter of taste, but I never choose dumb over smart… or raving lunatic over stable sanity.

  66. hunter1909 says:

    Absolutely freaking hilarious how Oiler fans constantly find these minor league gems that will instantly fulfill the team needs at NHL level.

    You’re all nuts. Seriously.

  67. Lucinius says:

    I’m not really understanding the idea that Arcobello could fit in as #2C on the Oilers. Honestly, I don’t even really see how he gets a call-up. Or any center, honestly, short of injury. RNH is clearly locked in at #1C. Horcoff, barring buyout/injury, is locked as the #3C, and Belanger likewise as the #4C. I really don’t see Arcobello > Gagner, and I’m not as high on Gagner as, say, Lowetide.

    Given the opponents the #2C will face I can’t picture Arcobello just slotting in there. He really strikes me as a tweener; a guy who’s very good/good in the AHL level but just not enough in his capabilities to crack the NHL on any sustained level.

  68. Lowetide says:

    Lucinius: There will be injuries–always are–and although I do think Chris VandeVelde is more worthy of a callup than Anton Lander, Arcobello has put himself in position (imo) for consideration.

  69. Lucinius says:

    So far in the Rus/Ger game;

    Rieder playing well thus far. Fairly dangerous looking. Made a bad turn-over on the powerplay, but it really wasn’t his fault as he was trying to compensate for the mistake of another.

    Yakupov has looked better today; less individualistic.

    And he just scored, by being less selfish (dropped the puck back on the rush, went straight to the net, buried the rebound into a near empty net). His first World Jr. goal.

  70. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide,

    Oh, I know. But there’ve been a lot of comments in the vein of needing to give Arcobello a trial in the NHL. That can only happen via injuries, imo. And yes, they’ll happen (though we ever-hope otherwise, but this is the Oilers we’re talking about — a good year is when half the team doesn’t keel over and die of the bubonic plague).

    I’d agree Arcobello is the second center I’d consider for a call-up, after CVV.

  71. Lucinius says:

    And Yakupov with an assist; Zharkov with the goal. Fantastic pass from Yakupov.

  72. Lowetide says:

    Yakupov gaining some confidence here and Zharkov looking good too. If I were the Oilers that Slepyshov kid would be on the radar too.

  73. Lucinius says:

    There are a couple Russians who’ve been quite good in these World Jrs. Can’t recall all their names, but Nikushkin is one, despite his KHL contract, guy is 17. His skating has been very impressive, especially how he managed to literally power his way straight through Seth Jones against the U.S.

  74. Lucinius says:

    Man, you gotta feel for the goaltenders of these teams like Germany.

  75. Lucinius says:

    Rieder remains the most dangerous German on the ice in this game.

    Not sure, but it also felt like Yakupov’s line got less ice time that period, but that’s just a gut feeling. Good game, regardless, for Oiler prospects.

  76. Lucinius says:

    Rieder saves a goal with a mid-air bunt at the German goal-line of a damn near empty net guaranteed goal. Fantastic hand eye coordination.

  77. speeds says:

    Lowetide:
    Yakupov gaining some confidence here and Zharkov looking good too. If I were the Oilers that Slepyshov kid would be on the radar too.

    If you were the Oilers, wouldn’t you have already drafted him last year?

  78. Lowetide says:

    speeds: If you were the Oilers, wouldn’t you have already drafted him last year?

    I was very surprised he didn’t go (the goalie as well) in the 2012 draft. The McCarron pick could have been used on either and would look a helluva lot better now.

  79. wuthering says:

    Schitzo:
    Re: the WJHC:

    I’m a big fan of Ray Ferraro, but it’s not the same without Pierre doing commentary.Two full Canada games over, and I have no idea where most of these kids went to high school or the names of their parents.I’m dying for an anecdote about Jordan Eberle or Dion Phaneuf.

    Wasn’t a fan of Gord Miller’s comments in the game today – repeatedly mentions Canada is down to 10 forwards like we’re the underdog.Hey Gord, guess who else is down two men?That team whose players had to leave via stretcher.

    Thought the USA would beat the Russians today – had them pegged to finish first in our pool.Not so much I guess.

    Subban makes me anxious ALL THE TIME.Can’t remember the last year that goaltending felt like a strength.Price? Bernier/Mason?

    It seemed as if 90% of Pierre’s commentary ran a version of “big bodies and active sticks,” which got very old in a hurry. I also remember him repeating, ad nauseam, how Patrice Cormier was “NHL ready” and we know how that has turned out (and FWIW, it’s amazing Canada named him Captain over Eberle that year). Yeah, maybe it is a fair criticism that Ferraro lacks some background anecdotes, but I’d rather have a guy that really knows the game; plus Ferraro is much funnier.

  80. Lucinius says:

    If I ever hear about Crosby’s thighs on television, like I’ve accidentally put it on an adult channel, again I may just shoot someone.

  81. Lowetide says:

    Double Dion! KA-BOOM! HE’s very ready, Gord, you talk to the NHL people in this rink they’ll tell you Columbus can’t WAIT to get this guy into camp this fall! BOOM! KA-BLAMMO!

  82. B S says:

    Lowetide, I seem to recall that Slepyshev was adamant during his draft year that he had no desire to play in North America. Some TSN announcer made it as an offhand comment during the WJC that year, but it would certainly fit with the way he fell through the entire draft.

    With regards to Dubnyk, K-Lowes comments always make me worry that he relies on TSN for his analysis of his own players. Dubnyk is a tall player with a big wingspan, all he needs to do is get in front of the shooter, and he’s done that well over the last couple years, and for those who criticize his play last fall, Luongo played worse for 3 months in front of a president’s trophy calibre team. Khabbi also robbed Dubnyk of that starter position for the first few weeks by playing like a man possessed by the ghost of Terry Sawchuck. Of course, Khabbi then proceeded to have a bad streak similar to Dubnyk, but for 3/4ths of the season. The point is that Dubnyk was subpar at the beginning of last year, even the best goalies have days like that, but averaged out by years end, meaning he was above par for most of the season.

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