KINGS AT OILERS, G3 (12-13) 24.1.13
These two organizations will be forever connected by the Gretzky trade. The deal–in the opinion of many–changed hockey forever. Looking back on the days of summer 1988, the thing that stands out is the quotes from the principal players.
- Peter Pocklington: ”Wayne has an ego the size of Manhattan. ‘I understand that though. If people had told me how great I was day in and day out for 10 years, I’m sure my ego would be a pretty generous size, too.”
- Peter Pocklington: ”He’s a great actor, I thought he pulled it off beautifully when he showed how upset he was. ‘I think he was upset, but he wants the big dream.”
- Gretzky on Pocklington’s comments: ”I’m not going to get into a war of words with anybody from Edmonton. ‘But if that’s what he thinks, then I’m very disappointed. ‘I’m grateful for what the Oilers did for me for 10 years. I’m proud to have been an Oiler, and people who know me and are friends of mine know the statements aren’t true.’‘
- Edmonton Mayor Lawrence Decore: ‘It’s like taking all the bridges away and saying, ‘Edmonton, this is what you’re going to look like.”
- Los Angeles drew 452,248 fans to 40 home games last season, putting the team next to last in the 21-team league. (Detroit was No. 1 with 785,532; Edmonton was sixth with 678,270 and Vancouver was last with 440,095.)
- At the news conference in Edmonton, Pocklington portrayed himself as a somewhat reluctant participant in the deal.
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In later years the Oilers and Kings have done business, with Lubo, Ryan Smyth and the pick that turned into Oscar Klefbom the major players coming to Edmonton and Jarret Stoll, Dustin Penner and Colin Fraser heading the other way for the Cup rings. Its funny, the Gretzky trade shook the foundation but Lombardi’s gathering of Oiler talent for the big run is impressive in its own way. I’m glad the Kings won the Stanley, and was impressed when they brought back Rogie Vachon and Marcel Dionne to help celebrate it opening night. A lot of people wondered why 99 wasn’t there, but for me bringing the old guard in was a reminder that champions and all time greats should never be measured by number of Stanley’s won. Greatness can exist on a mediocre or poor team, Oiler fans 92-now must know this to be true.
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As far as I know, there won’t be any lineup changes tonight:
- Nuge-Hall-Eberle
- Gagner-Yakupov-Hemsky
- Horcoff-Smyth-Hartikainen
- Belanger-Paajarvi-Petrell
- Smid-Petry
- Schultz-Schultz
- Whitney-Potter
- Dubnyk
One thing the Oilers need to do tonight is stay out of the penalty box. Especially early. The game was in peril by the time Taylor Hall took his second shift, that’s craziness. Also, with the Kings defense decimated, the speed demon forwards need to push on the forecheck and try to get their blue to make mistakes and take penalties.
The Oilers have two outstanding PP units. Can we mail one back to MacT a decade ago?
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The Barons lines and pairings were interesting last night. With two new arrivals, I was interested in seeing who would get pushed down the lineup:
- Arcobello-Green-Cheechoo
- Lander-Rajala-Pelss
- Martindale-Byers-Tyrvainen
- VandeVelde-Hamilton-House
- Brett Clark-Taylor Fedun
- Martin Marincin-Nathan Deck
- Kane Lafranchise-Colten Teubert
The ‘AHL veteran’ line is joined on defense by newcomer Brett Clark (also and AHL veteran) and Taylor Fedun, the most capable of the Oilers D prospects this season. Its interesting to see Rajala-Pelss pushing through (and on a line with Lander) past the others, and both had good games (Pelss 5 shots, Rajala an assist and 4 shots).
Marincin had his best game in a long while and flew several sorties into enemy territory. He resembled the player we saw in the fall, and scored (1-1-2) for the first time in forever.
Olivier Roy stopped 33 of 37. If I had to guess about callups, I’d go with F’s VandeVelde and Arcobello, and Fedun and Teubert on D. Brett Clark may find his way into that conversation soon.
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Smid with dumb penalty #2
Haha, keeps coming…
Good lord. Why can’t we have nice things?
Well at least Dubnyk and the PK doesn’t suck so far… that’s good at least!
Ffs this team is young, talented and dum
Interesting how quickly J Schultz has become a 3-discipline player….
I like Fistric already. hits and gives guys the business within the rules
The penalty is dumb. Why in heaven’s name did they change that?
Atta boy Ladi
Nuge with outstanding defensive play, and then all hell breaks loose after the hit on Eberle. Smid about to sublet the penalty box.
3 for 3 on the PK. Some Oilers PPs coming soon I imagne.
Nice on Smid to stand up there too.
Great back check by RNH.
Love Smid, even though it was a clean hit. When a non-fighter does that, I don’t mind it.
Of course. Smid with the extra 2. Obviously. Sweet fuck.
Is this the new losing strategy? It’s so seamless.
I like that Smid stands up for his teammate, but he has to know that’s nolan and he is a plug.
21 Pims for Smid.
This team is infuriating
bad trade, bad trade.
Oilers need Smid out there.
These refs better have body guards.
Ok, so Whitney isn’t allowed to cross the opposition blue line cause he might not make it back.
Instigator for that?!?
Wtf that’s a brutal call.
This is a joke. Thank god LA’s powerplay is slightly more useless than our PK.
These officials are awful and so are these stupid rules
stupid, stupid, stupid.
Smid has been just terrible the past two games.
Another entertaining hockey game.
They should just give the visiting teams an automatic 10 minute powerplay to start each game at Northlands.
Added, the visitors are allowed to choose any non-top five player to sit out the first period, as the 10 minutes might not be quite enough sometimes.
Double-minor for that weak fight?
Awful calls. C’mon refs, let ‘em play…
The first penalty was dumb but its been a series of questionable and chincy calls since then.
Good forechecking by Gagner.
Come on guys, seriously. I’m trying to avoid work here.
Small sample size and all that but my inclination is to say Fistric > Potter.
Fistric has been money on the PK.
You know, if this wasn’t the Kings, I’d think our PK was actually good.
One make-up call. 4 to go?
This feels a little like that 2002(??) Can-US Women’s Olympic final with the crazy reffing. Hopefully the Oilers gut it out and win the game like our women did.
Now our 1st pp. Looks like a 4 min, no?
I can’t believe there are people that can’t see a place for Magnus on this team.
Chris,
more like>>>>>
The ice on the road in front of my house looks better than the ice at Rexall. Can Anybody at the game confirm how bad it is?
You know, Messier used to talk about not taking penalties and then go out and rip someone’s head off, maybe this will work!
(no it won’t).
yep, 2002.
one of the rare occurrences where blatantly biased officiating made a win that much sweeter.
Yeah, #5 defenceman. The offensive option on the third pairing, taking Whitney’s place.
Very diplomatic of Smyth not to curse out the refs there.
I get the early going will see more PP, but the playrs look genuinely confused by the calls. A little rule book perusal may be in order.
last game i noticed that the ice looked horrible in the first and second – but looked fine in the 3rd.
maybe something they are doing pre-game or between periods messing things up?
The Oilers look so deadly on the power play.
It’s almost like the Sharks in the first period.
ffs.
REFS!!!!!!!!!!!
Bar_Qu,
Well, I though the closed hand rule was taking effect next season, not this one.
Potter had one good stretch of NHL hockey but I’m somewhat doubtful if he can play at this level. Sadly Whitney who can be sensational looks to be of limited usefulness unless within the next few months someone invents bionic ankles.
Yak in Quicks face. LOVE IT
Man, this game is more like Oilers and Kings Vs. refs.
Lol, is Mick Mcgeough one of the refs tonight?
These refs need to never see another game. Its just, wow.
Whitney! Sigh.. you can’t let that get by you..
If 91 wasn’t good on the PK in OKC, then someone gave him Pisani genes on the way here.
I haven’t seen reffing this bad since Brett Hart wrestled Shawn Michaels.
Now this is one exciting game…
Fistric’s been great
Now this is one exciting game…
45 has been excellent. Hell, pretty much everyone outside of Smid has been
Fistric!!! Fucking awesome!!
What a crazy game. Hall had a beauty chance, the PP moved quickly but not quickly enough. Hemsky needs to take a page from the kids on the PP and make his decisions more quickly. jmo.
Fistric? Yeah, baby.
Yes, this is a badass small sample size for Fistric!
Oilers should be up 1-0, but, you know, refs.
Needed to score on the 5-3, though…
Liking Fistric.
I am a few minutes behind, but the redding is terrible, just wakeful. I usually defend the refs, but…
Four more periods like that from Fistric and Theo Peckham’s in another town.
I’m waiting for the first person to say “If only Tom Gilbert had been more like Fistric”
i like how nolan hit eberle then got in a fight and later, creamed. everyone lay off smid. i mean it.
I vote we call him Mark Fishstick
Lowetide,
At some point, Schultz should move up on the net to increase the pressure on the PK and maybe get some quality shots off, which would open things up a bit in the crease.
Probably will come with game experience, and I sure cant fault the kid QBing the PP so well in his 3rd NHL game.
voxwah,
Coukd have been D S F with the whistle on the Hemsky assist
One of my all time favourite games for sure. Just no way they’d be denied. That was the year that the US won all the exhibition game they’d played prior to the Olympics too right? Then no matter what the refs threw at them there was basically no doubt they’d win that game.
The men followed it up the next day with a pretty dominating win the next day too. Good times!
I love Aaron Ward’s 5-on-3 PK breakdown. That was a great explanation and demonstration of the triangle.
Meowing down bodies!
Yeah, I think the first half of the 5-on-3 looked a little stilted, maybe a small tweak here. Smid’s going to be skating in quicksand the rest of the night.
Got to adjust Yakupov’s positioning 5-on-3. Move him higher.
Note to Eberle – lose the stick with the hole in it. He could have 4 at home this season already. Easy.
i think the bad ice cost the Oilers a goal on their PP.
now that the arena deal is signed, can we get the *real* Oilers ice back please?
My favorite part of this game is that the Oilers aren’t down by 5 goals in the first period.
they had the 2nd unit PP guys + RNH out there for the first half. no Hall or Eberle.
unsure why they did that.
How the Fis-trick could differ from the Yak-trick
1. Huge hit
2. Fight
3. Assist
My guess is noone on the blog here tonight has given Gilbert a picosecond of brain time, until you mentioned him. He’s old news now (until we lose half our D with injury).
It was perhaps a mildly unsucessful joke.
I liked Chris’s joke.
As a chris myself, I thought it was a whale of a joke.
You damn KChriss’s always stick together
Hall with the poor play, Dubnyk saves the day. Nice.
Awful giveaway by Hall. He’s gotta make the easy play and exit the zone
Not sure I like the Kopitar line against the RNH line at home.
At home, Krueger should NEVER have 37-20-56 out against Kopitar. Yikes
Kings starting to push there, Oilers get a gift. Put Hall out there!
Belanger looks bagged
This is a good time for a PP.
One less zebra. Three more to go!
J Schultz last one off the ice this morning
Hall really must be confident in his shoulder and slap shot. He’s playing right point.
Another Edmonton powerplay! Santa!
Even though they ain’t pottin’ any yet things look good. OH TOO MANY MEN! YAAA!
this game is a mess.
Even up time. Still waiting to see real Oilers
Wow, these refs are fucking AWFUL
WHAT THE?
3 teams out there
This is some weird shit.
WOW. There’s been a bunch of penalties tonight I’ve never seen called before.
Grinch.
Fuck these refs.
I swear I’ve seen them before. This can’t be their first game, there isn’t some sort of ref lockout is there?
I feel for the people who pay for this, I really do.
wha-?
I don’t usually post while I watch games… But… This has become a joke.
This game deserves the crowd to start the refs suck chant.
I’m surprised the didn’t call Smyth for breathing on the Goalie
Tonight’s objective: call every stupid penalty the NHL ever dreamed up. Up next: smid will get called for playing with a broken stick
Smyth has always had leeway with goalies.
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh YAKUPOV!
Wow…I can’t believe Quick stopped that.
Nice try Nail. Nice pass Gagner. Damn!
Welcome to the NHL Yak.
…. Fucking Quick having a good game, of course!
Oooooof, that was a snag.
… with a visor.
Hockey parts! Needed a penalty there somewhere.
Lucinius,
Oil making him look good. Finally some net front presence tho
For the amount of ice time Yak’s gotten, he’s done very well
RNH having a strong game. Goes into the corner and comes out with thpuck often and he’s the smallest guy on the ice.
Datsyukian.
Nice shift by 89 too. Ragged the puck to allow 4 to get off and kept the play going, then sweet pass to 64 later in the shift.
The penalties in this game would be remarkable even if it wasn’t somehow scoreless half way in.
wow
Rebilled,
There you go.
*Enough already*
What is this, special teams practice?!
Just let them play…this is getting ridiculous
Not even up yet, but getting there. Can’t make up for that called back goal though…
Nice to see Yak pissed after that chance against.
Not just Quick playing great, Dubey too.
Again, I am behind on the pvr – WTF is a Faceoffs violation penalty????
The fat pig stuffing his gob behind Sutter wearing an Oilers jersey needs to be banned from the rink for life.
They miss the charge on clifford, then Smyth draws a phantom call
you know the officiating is bad when the other team’s penalties start to frustrate you.
bookjLe,
Its when two people get waived out for a violation of face-off etiquette, basically. Horcoff got waived out, then Eberle jumped a fraction of a second early on the won draw by RNH.
geez 89, is shooting not an option there??
everything about this game is sloppy.
Exactly! Not such a bad thing vs Champs
Oilers are mostly falling into the ‘perfect play’ trap, it looks like.
WG: I was listening to Mark Spector today and he was talking about the Nuge and Sam as 1-2. Basically he was saying they needed a bigger #2C, but for me if they are as good as those two then you make an exception.
I understand having a bigger man in the top 6, but make him a winger. Centermen who can pass like these two are quite rare. and they’re lefty-righty which also has advantages.
Man, this is a fun game to watch.
Gagner having a nice game today.
Smyth is fighting it.
delooper,
Yeah.
Oilers keep zooming like they are now and they’ll win this game. Penalties may decide it, though.
Yak isn’t perfect, but he’s the real deal. The kid is gonna score some goals. Real glad we’ve got him.
These younglings are sure entertaining. Man.
If Gagner can continue to play like this all season I think we have 1-2 C’s set. The plays seem to be just clicking for Sam now, his timing seems to be spot on.
Haha, Tencer just tweeted that Mick Mcgeough is the officials supervisor tonight. Lol
This game is giving me blue balls.
Dang.
That’s on Nick Schultz. Terrible play
You just knew that the first goal was going to be at ES.
And, damnit…
Smyth immediately follows with a stupid penalty
Hall… man, that kid causes all sorts of chaos, creates space everywhere, but he doesn’t have elite finish.
San Jose time?
Rookie D.
Give away the puck, then take the wrong lane to give a clean break.
Somehow I don’t think the Oilers will be shut out.
Justin messed up too, got caught watching the puck instead if reacting.
Ugh, another dumb penalty??
SS: lol.
Ah, crap. There was a nice storyline here, because some of the kids were going to get some big time praise after the game. Petry, Paajarvi, Yakupov and I think (as mentioned above) Nuge and Hall are feeling it tonight.
But another bad decision by the defense and its in the back of the net.
At least the Smyth penalty was a penalty… if you’re going to get a penalty…
Smyth has become a grumpy old man.
2 minutes for pushing.
The league somehow has to make officials accountable. this is garbage
Kruger needs to stand on the bench and bang a stick on the boards now. WTF refs!@!
F off Brown! He’s got that down to a science, refs should know better
I could ref this game better than this.
(I couldn’t, actually. And not only because I can barely skate.)
OK so yesterday we had amateur hour anthem singer, today we have amateur hour refereeing.
what the hell is going on?
Actually, I sort of expected it to be short-handed.
Nice kill. Lets get that goal back.
Nice hustle back by 93. very nice.
Not the worst ever yet. Getting there.
How soon before we get a penalty on the face-off for a hand pass.
At least in the first few days of Ralphs regime we are learning all the new rules the hard way.
This reffing is worth the suspension/cash slap for bashing the refs post-game by the coach.
RNH with the turbo boost there. Wow!
Nuge arguing the offside there is the first time I have ever seen him talk back. Maybe I have just never seen it.
I want a hockey stick garbage can throwing old school coach spazz out.
I wonder who the ref pairing is and if I can avoid watching another game called by these guys…
That’s what you said.
Fistric has had a whale of a game. Holy shit, Yakupov just broke the world!
great pass Hemsky
“Steve Smith”,
I had noticed I said that. I said it.
Rebilled,
Good question – where is Nostradumbass?
crude,
That’s what I said.
“Steve Smith”,
Bustin’ my chops.
These Oilers could go down as the greatest lottery team in NHL history.
That is literally* the cleverest thing you have ever said.
*You couldn’t hear me, but I said that word in the manner of Rob Lowe on Parks and Recreation.
If this game doesn’t convince Tambo that Petrell is not an NHL player nothing will.
Hey, according to the ticker, Mike Knuble is still playing.
Does anyone else think gagner looks drunk tonight? Sort of a debate over at my place.
“Steve Smith”,
Knuble was one of Detroit’s last cuts.He was sent down to Grand Rapids prmarily for condiitioning.
Of course that was 1987.
“Steve Smith”,
What’s my question Nosferatu?
This game is nuts… how is the score not 9-8?
what do you all think of this Benn deal…
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=414397
Rebilled,
That’s what Crude said.
Gagner and Paajarvi are the additional F pk men tonight. Very interesting.
I’d get bigger at 2C if it meant better.
Lots of guys would get bigger and get worse in the process just to get bigger.
PP! Okay boys, lets get a goal here so I can release the hounds!
Lets get one here. Drawn penalty #2 for Fistric
Did Smytty intentionally throw the puck into Clifford’s face while he was down?
Playing extra greasy tonight.
I am liking Fistric. Nice to have a mean son of a gun, like Steve Smith here.
Tonight was free drinks night for the officials!
Schultz is already masterful along the blue on the PP
Oilers pp doesn’t seem to have a plan. SJ had a plan. Oilers pp just reacts to what they see -nice passing – no set plays
Really like MPS’ game tonight, sure he hasn’t done anything offensively, but his defensive play has been superb, which is what you need on that third line, imo. Especially after the Sharks game.