OILERS AT COYOTES G6 (12-13) 30.1.13

The NHL trade deadline is April 3. Edmonton traditionally sends away their veterans on that day, going back to the Ryan Smyth to the Islanders trade. There was a time–2006–when Kevin Lowe added some wonderful things to a game roster. We’re far too early in the season to even think about the deadline, but there are some interesting things to discuss:

  • With Theo Peckham back and close to ready, will the Oilers trade one of their defensemen? The club has Smid-Petry, Schultz-Schultz, Whitney-Potter and Fistric-Peckham currently. That’s eight, one too many and the only one who can be sent down without waiver worry is Schultz the younger. I suspect a lot of it has to do with the coach’s preference, but with four UFA’s (Smid, Whitney, Fistric, Sutton the done) this summer maybe they move the one they don’t plan to sign?
  • I wonder if Hartikainen and Paajarvi have a chance to push Eager and Hordichuk down the depth chart and (eventually) off the roster. The Oilers have three F UFA’s this summer (Ryan Jones, Lennart Petrell and Hordichuk) and after this year they won’t be able to send either Harski or Paajarvi to the minors without clearing waivers. Honest question: where do you rank the kids (out of 5) when compared to the UFA’s?
  • Khabibulin is healthy, but I wonder for how long? I’m not sure what the Oilers expect to get out of him this year they couldn’t get out of Danis. I guess the only real answer is “some of their money’s worth.”
  • I find this Oilers team a lot of fun to watch, but the media stories surrounding them are as dull as dish water. “They can’t score 5×5″ and “Yakupov is wildly inconsistent” are banal to the extreme. Why not talk about the way Ralph Krueger is using his lineup? Its really interesting and different than Tom Renney or Pat Quinn, plus it doesn’t take a lot of work to see the differences. I’d like them to look into the Gagner line, see if RK can keep it together long enough for chem to develop. Right now they are drowning at evens despite playing softer opponents (according to behind the net. WARNING: its early and these numbers will go up and down wildy for a few weeks).
  • OR they could speculate about where Ryan Jones fits when he returns. Here’s my suggestion:
  • Line 1: Gagner-Hall-Hemsky
  • Line 2: Nuge-Yakupov-Eberle
  • Line 3: Horcoff-Hartikainen-Paajarvi
  • Line 4: Belanger-Jones-Smyth
  • Extras: Petrell, Eager

mantha

 Anthony Mantha, Val -d’Or

Bob McKenzie’s Top 30 Prospects Show goes tonight and I’ll be interested to see where Anthony Mantha ends up on the list. Mantha is 6.03, 200 and has scored 38 goals in 47 QMJHL games. He also has 55 pims in those games and a couple of majors, so there’s some PF skills on the resume.

  • Corey Pronman: “Mantha is an intriguing package of tools as he is 6’4” with good speed, a heavy shot, and offensive instincts. I wasn’t all that sold on him last season, but he has developed well over the last six months or so”

Just gathering up info for the entry draft, Oilers should have three picks in the top 50 (their 1 & 2 and ANA’s 2) and dealt their 3rd rd pick for Mark Fistric. In reading about this draft, looks like it could be 2003. Which brings us to the obvious question: CAN they find Pouliot again?

I bet the Oilers grab a goalie in the draft this season, and Eric Comrie and Tristan Jarry are two possibles. Would love to know how much input the goalie coach has on things.

Jonathan Willis has a draft article up, check it out.

I think this road trip will be a large test for this team, and I am uncertain that Ralph Krueger has the answers he needs. They play in Phoenix tonight, in San Jose tomorrow night and at Colorado on Saturday. I think it is reasonable to expect a 1-2 road trip.

 

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  1. khildahl says:

    Lowetide:
    Nice second by Edmonton, they’re frustrating the Coyotes breakouts and cleaning things up in their own end. Not exactly the Lemaire Wild, but miles better than the Quinn year.

    I think the entire team (along with the fans) tuned Quinn out early in the season when he slammed Fernando Pisani in the media for lack of effort.

  2. Gret99zky says:

    Third should be good. RK will show his quality. The Oilers need to seal the deal. We need these 2 points.

  3. gogliano says:

    I think this might be reaching back to a forgotten play in the 1st but RNH is fantastic defensive player for a kid his age. Reads playing going the other way very well, has surprising speed on the backcheck, and is one of the best pickpockets on the team. Not the same style of player exactly but he looks to be what Fedorov was to those Detroit teams of old.

  4. russ99 says:

    khildahl,

    Can’t be any worse than this Phoenix feed on Center Ice.

    Boring game so far, but I’ll take a boring, defensive win.

  5. icecastles says:

    Gret99zky: The Oilers need to seal the deal

    No problem. No team can bounce back from a 1-0 deficit.

  6. khildahl says:

    I like to imagine ATB just went and got a real ‘Nucks fan to act like himself for that Eberle commercial.

  7. khildahl says:

    LT,

    Your tweet re: Torres wins the internet.

  8. gogliano says:

    icecastles: No problem. No team can bounce back from a 1-0 deficit.

    Need to try to avoid the most dangerous lead in hockey and they should be all right.

  9. Bar_Qu says:

    I sincerely hope Petrell’s goal holds up as the winner. It would serve me right.

  10. SK Oiler Fan says:

    icecastles:
    Lucinius,

    Correct. And they didn’t play last night either. Played Monday, then tonight, then not again until Saturday (and again on Sunday).

    Huh, I would have expected more out of Tippet’s team at home. Credit to DD and the D though. Nice to see the Oilers playing a low event road game for a change

  11. khildahl says:

    Is the Dallas guy counting hits tonight? 35? Really?

  12. Lowetide says:

    Hall looked liked he was held there, Oilers too loose this period. Time for archie Bell and the Drells!

  13. hunter1909 says:

    Time for that heartbreaking goal.

    Pajaarvi’s like that little brother who gets beat up so often eventually when he grows up he can’t be hurt.

  14. khildahl says:

    Wow. How was that not a late hit?

  15. Gret99zky says:

    Biz Nasty is hunting The Younger.

  16. Lowetide says:

    Dubnyk is really doing nice things the last 2 third periods. Oilers have forgotten the lessons.

  17. Ribs says:

    Nice little piece with Stu MacGregor from Terry Jones…

    “You always hear teams at the draft say ‘We had him projected a lot higher’. That was definitely the case with Eberle. When we went to the draft that June we had him No. 10.”

  18. crude says:

    Oliver E. Larsson is a player.

  19. khildahl says:

    Wow.

  20. BlacqueJacque says:

    Gret99zky:
    Biz Nasty is hunting The Younger.

    All game long, with two late hits by my count. Refs seem blind.

  21. Rebilled says:

    ‘Other side Hemsky!’ is easy to type.

  22. Lucinius says:

    Looked like Hemsky was expecting Johnson to move more to his right. Still, that was an excellent shift by Hemsky.

  23. SK Oiler Fan says:

    khildahl:
    Is the Dallas guy counting hits tonight?35?Really?

    Yah, if the secondary stats counters are going to get free beer every game the NHL may as well save their money and not bother. Hits, fo, takeaways, and giveawsys are all over the map, especially this year

  24. Rebilled says:

    the cameramen don’t expect Smid to shoot so much, they don’t even put him in the frame.

  25. Lowetide says:

    Nick Schultz with a nice defensive play after the turnover in the offensive zone. I’m going to have an ulcer again this year.

  26. icecastles says:

    When Hall, Eberle and Nuge have total control in the attacking zone and the only attempted shot on goal comes from Smid, it becomes easy to see why they’re not scoring at evens.

  27. Lucinius says:

    One of these days Smid will score five to win some fan the million dollars. Okay, maybe that’s just something I’d love to see because its Smid.

  28. BlacqueJacque says:

    Heh, Yak looks more comfortable in the middle than on the left.

    Nice to see he’s sharing the puck a bit better. Got the sense that Hemsky, at least, is a bit more reluctant to pass to him.

  29. ASkoreyko says:

    Nail should of shot there.

    I think he is worried to much about being a good teammate.

    Time to be selfish kid, use what god gave you!

  30. icecastles says:

    ASkoreyko: I think he is worried to much about being a good teammate

    That’s been the case almost since his first game as an Oiler. Though if he were struggling in his first NHL games I would rather it be due to that than due to trying to be a lone ranger. As his confidence comes, he’ll get back to shooting. I’m more than okay with him trying to diversify and strengthen all aspects of his game. Noticed he is working harder at the defensive end lately too, even if it’s not coming naturally to him yet.

  31. OilLeak says:

    The Phoenix Coyotes, the cure for insomniacs.

  32. Ice Sage says:

    Do I smell a late Phoenix power play?

  33. khildahl says:

    Hemsky’s flying solo on a lot of his zone entries.

  34. ASkoreyko says:

    icecastles,

    I agree long-term this will be the most effective way forward for Yak. But sometimes you just want to see the kid rip one. I guess we will have (hopefully) many years to watch him do his thing so no need to rush it!

  35. rich says:

    @ Ice Sage.

    Close, wrong color.

  36. JohnnyRocket says:

    Potter makes me nervous out there. Some nice forays into the offensive zone, but caught out of position too many times. I’d rather have Fistric laying down the pain.

  37. JohnnyRocket says:

    Potter on the PP? Grrr…

  38. icecastles says:

    Was hoping we’d see their even strength play start to score like their powerplay. Instead, their powerplay is starting to score like their five on five.

  39. Ice Sage says:

    rich,

    Yeah but it LOOKED like a Phoenix PP!!!!

  40. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oilers seem oddly off this game. Either that or the dogs digested so much video they have an uncanny ability to be in every passing lane the Oilers think of.

  41. JohnnyRocket says:

    Dubnyk tracked that puck well.

  42. bookjLe says:

    Dubnyk just padded his save percentage with about a dozen shots in 10 seconds.

  43. icecastles says:

    5 on 3?

  44. khildahl says:

    Gagner got interference on that? WTF?

  45. JohnnyRocket says:

    Damn. Horcoff has had a great game. Good start to the season. I hope he is okay.

  46. Lowetide says:

    Road game, third period. Oilers are a young team that hasn’t been in this situation–up by 1 late–very much.

  47. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Nuge slow getting back. Nhl refs have been garbage so far this year

  48. Ice Sage says:

    There it is!
    Doan sucks

  49. bookjLe says:

    ice the puck into the empty net please…

  50. JohnnyRocket says:

    God-damn it.

  51. Ice Sage says:

    Predicted.

  52. khildahl says:

    Crap.

  53. Bar_Qu says:

    Mmph!

  54. hunter1909 says:

    The anti-Kings game.

  55. BlacqueJacque says:

    I’d rather lose 6-3 than watch this.

  56. bookjLe says:

    Hmm, its usually the Oilers doing this whole ‘Playing from behind’ thing getting the tying goal late in the game, etc… It’s less fun on this side of things.

  57. khildahl says:

    So, Refs…. When I said earlier that I wouldn’t complain about the make-up call I didn’t think it would be with 2 minutes left in the game.

  58. JohnnyRocket says:

    It looked like the trainer just gave Krueger an update on Horcoff. Couldn’t read his expresson.

  59. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Classic, Well that was coming fir 10 min. A better team would have burried them on the PP.
    Betman is smiling -3 points! Eberyone is happy!

  60. rich says:

    @ Ice Sage: Time to play the lottery. Wish you hadn’t been right.

  61. khildahl says:

    Oh, Sportsnet. Fix your shit please.

  62. hunter1909 says:

    My cat lip reads Russian and it says Khabibulin’s dissing Dubnyk. Take it for what you will.

  63. jake70 says:

    Saw that goal comming a mile away.

  64. Sharpie says:

    I hope coach’s Potter obsession ends soon.

  65. BlacqueJacque says:

    Potter and Whitney out 4v4? Not exactly my first choice.

  66. SK Oiler Fan says:

    They missed another obvious offside

  67. jake70 says:

    anyone else losing center ice feed….*&^%$#

  68. Ice Sage says:

    OK, some killer instinct, pls

  69. russ99 says:

    Can’t blow it now.. PP in overtime is usually a gimme.

  70. Lucinius says:

    Potter has had a fairly bad game by my eye.

  71. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Is mact running the pp tonight?

  72. khildahl says:

    Yak with the homerun, again!

  73. russ99 says:

    YAK!!

  74. rich says:

    Yak That!!!

  75. BlacqueJacque says:

    WTF is Morris doing.

    Yak celebrated normally, Oilers didn’t expect him to react normally and then Morris jumps Whitney.

  76. Rebilled says:

    hahhahahahahaahahahaha!!!!!!!!

  77. Ice Sage says:

    Deja – Yak!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  78. Lucinius says:

    Hahahaha!

    Yakupov… didn’t move this time and no one came to him.

    And wtf Phoenix… beating on the cripple?

  79. Lowetide says:

    Nail Yakupov is going to score a lot of goals in the NHL.

  80. bookjLe says:

    Classy moves by Phoenix there!

  81. icecastles says:

    Between the end-of-series antics against LA this spring and now this shit show, I am losing a lot of respect for what I used to think was one of the classier teams (and classier captains in Doan) in the league.

  82. khildahl says:

    Bet Cherry doesn’t bitch about Phoenix whining after the game.

  83. russ99 says:

    Yak is ridiculously gifted at shooting pucks in the air into the net.

  84. hunter1909 says:

    What a perfect start to a road trip – beat the Yotes fair and square in a river hockey game, a 3 pointer to piss of the Flames fans, then with a Yakupov miracle, lololololol.

  85. Thor762 says:

    Krueger high fiving Yak on the way to the dressing room. That’s awesome.

  86. Ice Sage says:

    Morris, ex-flame. Nuff said

  87. BlacqueJacque says:

    So assists would be Hall and Hemsky on that. Hall regains scoring lead on the team with 1 goal and 7 assists. Not what I expected out of Taylor Hall this year but I’m not complaining!

  88. godot10 says:

    Can you imagine if Yakupov ever begins to play well! -).

    4 goals, playing only so so.

  89. bookjLe says:

    It’s a win. In most years it would not have been. Good teams win crappy games like this.

  90. khildahl says:

    Nice. Yak with the “Come on!” to his linemates at the end.

  91. khildahl says:

    Morris should get at least a game after that (but he won’t).

  92. bookjLe says:

    Yak was afraid to celebrate after the game – he just stood at the glass calmly.

  93. hunter1909 says:

    Morris goes wild when he saw Yakupov waving his fingers hahahaha.

  94. HeyJakel says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    So assists would be Hall and Hemsky on that.Hall regains scoring lead on the team with 1 goal and 7 assists.Not what I expected out of Taylor Hall this year but I’m not complaining!

    Bounced off Whitney’s glove, didn’t it? Should be Hall and Whitney, I think.

  95. hunter1909 says:

    Wtf Oilers are the coolest team in the West, if not the NHL.

  96. striatic says:

    i need to know what Whitney said to Morris.

  97. jake70 says:

    They are just nervous/scared….understandable…Jamieson still hasn’t bought the team, another deadline tomorrow…sigh……

  98. HeyJakel says:

    The Coyotes feed has made multiple references to Dubnyk looking over his shoulder now that Khabi is back.

  99. BlacqueJacque says:

    Hahaha even Gene snickered at how bad that “last … nail.. in the coffin” line was.

  100. Bar_Qu says:

    There it is! Glad you finally got to use it Gene.

  101. wordbird says:

    Man, how can you not like #64?
    good kid.

  102. SK Oiler Fan says:

    Stay tuned…. Oilers will have to turn their plane around. Goal waived off… high stick. OT starts over at 2am

  103. Lois Lowe says:

    I think Yak was motioning to his team because of the whole ‘we don’t want to chase you down’ thing. Looked like the kid learned his lesson.

  104. Matt.N says:

    Anyone clear on what happened at the end?

    Was Morris pissed at Yak or Whitney?

    Why wouldn’t PHX leave the ice?

  105. speeds says:

    Not sure EDM can get a C to SJ in time if Horcoff can’t play tomorrow, who could move to C? Hall?

  106. Lucinius says:

    Lois Lowe:
    I think Yak was motioning to his team because of the whole ‘we don’t want to chase you down’ thing. Looked like the kid learned his lesson.

    This. It was hilarious. Scores, stands at the back glass yelling to his team mates, waving the fingers going “Come here!” with that look on his face. Priceless.

  107. bookjLe says:

    I think the slowly building story of the season for the Oilers might be that Dubnyk might be an NHL calibre #1 goalie. That would be huge.

  108. bookjLe says:

    Matt.N,

    I think they thought that Whitney touched the puck with a high stick as it was dropping down to Nail and then they were pricks about it – particularly Morris.

  109. RMGS says:

    godot10:
    Can you imagine if Yakupov ever begins to play well! -).

    4 goals, playing only so so.

    Not sure what you saw, but he played his best game yet by far.

  110. russ99 says:

    speeds,

    I’d love to see Hall at C, but he was resistant to playing there in OKC.

    Move Belanger to the third, maybe call up Arcobello? The Barons have been off since Sat, can’t be too hard to fly a guy to SJ tomorrow.

  111. Lowetide says:

    Oilers are 1-0 on a pretty tough road trip, folks. Now you want the second win tomorrow in SJ but that’s a tall order. I think Dubnyk had another nice game.

  112. regwald says:

    I think the issue was Whitney yapped at Morris after goal because Morris gave him a big cross check in front of the net on the goal. So, Morris was obviously not impressed with the comment from Whitney especially after losing the game.

  113. regwald says:

    Lowetide,

    That takes Dubnyk’s save percentage to .916. Moving in the right direction.

  114. Lucinius says:

    Lowetide,

    I think the SJS game is almost a guaranteed loss. Back to back on the road, playing against a team that’s on fire.. but there’s a chance for the morale victory if you can make it a close game. Anything other than that is gravy and to be appreciated.

  115. rich says:

    Credit to DD. He’s been very calm in the net. Even in the Calgary game, he’s looked composed and confident in what he’s doing. If he can continue to play like this, it would be a huge bonus for the Oil.

    Is it too early though to ask for Fistric over Potter in tomorrow’s game?

  116. OilLeak says:

    RMGS: Not sure what you saw, but he played his best game yet by far.

    Uh, Yakupov had a terrible night, also Gagner was no prize either this night. Hemsky still carrying the line.

    Gagner 3-10 in the circle tonight, but Vermette took everyone to task tonight going 15-18.

  117. Henry says:

    Maybe Whitney clipped Morris with the follow through on his swing of the rebound. Doesn’t matter, Morris looks like the chump he is. Even if he played well.

    Phoenix played a road style at home. They should be happy with a point and f off.

    I saw what everyone has been saying about OEL. Best player on either side in this game.

    That penalty on Gagner with Horc getting blindsided 2 seconds after was very NBA-late-game bullshit. At least they didn’t lose.

  118. Lowetide says:

    speeds:
    Not sure EDM can get a C to SJ in time if Horcoff can’t play tomorrow, who could move to C? Hall?

    I think that’s the best choice, but don’t know if Hall wants to do it. They might have to do:

    Nuge-Hall-Eberle
    Gagner-Yakupov-Hemsky
    Belanger-Smyth-Petrell
    Hartikainen-Hordichuk-Paajarvi

  119. hunter1909 says:

    Lucinius,

    I’d kind of figured that outcome for tonight’s game, based on what I saw between these teams last season.

    But, the Hall line looks like a bona fide NHL number 1 line to my addled brain. And Dubnyk looks like as long as he turns up to the rink awake he’s a pretty good goalie. Yakupov/Hall combined to score the winning OT goal tonight, I don’t know if it’s the first points they score together, but I’m willing to bet Woodguy’s entire bankroll that it won’t be the last.

  120. Lucinius says:

    Gagner had his moments tonight. Lot of try.

    Hemsky was the best player on his line, by my eye. Potter needs to sit for Fistric. Whitney looked to be having his best game yet (low bar, I know). Top line seemed.. off. Like they were jet lagged, actually. Nothing wrong with them, and did some pretty great things at times, but just looked a little off with their timing, positionings. Needed to shoot the puck more. MPS had a few hiccups, but still like that fourth line. Petrell played an inspired game and Smyth looked his best of the year.

    Liked Smid’s game. Blocked shots, settled a few things.. took shots when no one else wanted to..

    Dubnyk was fantastic.

  121. Ice Sage says:

    RMGS: Not sure what you saw, but he played his best game yet by far.

    I saw a wild stallion, darting, jabbing, misreading and generally going nowhere. But I also saw some backchecking and goalside defending, which is progress.

  122. GetYerAivazoff says:

    Dubnyk was quietly outstanding, I thought. And if Petrell brought that game every night, he could play on my team anytime. Several really excellent plays and great blocks.
    Potter, on the other hand, looked out of place all night.

  123. BlacqueJacque says:

    Fun stat:

    Oilers have the best goal differential in the division, +2, despite the SJ blowout.

  124. Ice Sage says:

    Lucinius:
    Lowetide,

    I think the SJS game is almost a guaranteed loss. Back to back on the road, playing against a team that’s on fire.. but there’s a chance for the morale victory if you can make it a close game. Anything other than that is gravy and to be appreciated.

    ‘Moral’ victory guaranteed if the goal is to start better than last game they played. CHI lost tonight so, why not? After tonight’s trap-fest, Oil may find some room and sting the Sharks?

  125. Henry says:

    Yakupov is in a good spot. He’s a rookie and can’t carry the team and doesn’t have to. He does contibute though.

  126. hockeyguy10 says:

    Ice Sage,

    i saw a 19 yr old kid get a nice goal. You guys that think he had a bad game make me shake my head. He is 6 games into his NHL career and has 4 goals. I would say he is exceeding most peoples expectations.

  127. Lowetide says:

    Part pf Petrell’s night imo is that he was playing with better linemates. A year ago he was with a disinterested Belanger and Ben “stick optional” Eager. His forechecking has always been good, but tonight he had the look of a guy who could help.

    That Pisani job listing has been in the paper every week for three years now….

  128. Suntory Hanzo says:

    Watched the Coyotes feed, and all they could talk about was Yakupov’s celebration.

    First off, they poll the viewers on his Kings goal celebration, and the majority said they liked it.

    Then the commentators say he is off base with this ‘celly’ and how the Coyotes will be remembering that for next time.

    WTF? Becasue he moved some fingers??

    Please LT and other posters. Please enlighten me the brutal misdoing by 64.

  129. hunter1909 says:

    Lowetide: That Pisani job listing has been in the paper every week for three years now….

    Petrell looks like a PC version of Raffi Torres.

  130. hunter1909 says:

    After tonight’s ho hum miracle finish game, if someone started up a blog called Bandwagon Oilers they’d get rich.

  131. Gerta Rauss says:

    I think Regwald got it right re:OT goal-Whiteny must have said something that Morris took exception to.
    I watched the replay and it definitely hit Whitney-he swung at it and missed the puck(and the defender,no hight stick or slash) Yak’s chip in was at knee height(or lower) when he hit it(good goal) Maybe Phoenix thought it went off Whitney’s hand(it may have) and they thought it was a hand pass, but it was more of a ricochet than anything, and the official scorer gave Whitney an assist.

    Either way, I’ll take the 2 points..we’ve got to learn to close that out in regulation but I’m not going to nitpick. Dubnyk was great, and that’s the best game Petrell played in, well…ever.

  132. jp says:

    speeds:
    Not sure EDM can get a C to SJ in time if Horcoff can’t play tomorrow, who could move to C? Hall?

    Where’s Kytnar these days?

    Lowetide: I think that’s the best choice, but don’t know if Hall wants to do it. They might have to do:

    Nuge-Hall-Eberle
    Gagner-Yakupov-Hemsky
    Belanger-Smyth-Petrell
    Hartikainen-Hordichuk-Paajarvi

    I imagine they can get someone to SJ in time, but if not, looks like a perfect time to go with 7 D.

    For that matter, I’d go for Peckham at 4C over Hordichuk.

  133. Ice Sage says:

    hockeyguy10:
    Ice Sage,

    i saw a 19 yr old kid get a nice goal. You guys that think he had a bad game make me shake my head. He is 6 games into his NHL career and has 4 goals. I would say he is exceeding most peoples expectations.

    He’s right on schedule and making the most of chances that others set up for him. When he’s actually generating chances and taking opponent’s chances away, we’ll have a ‘good’ player. Harsh, I know, and I’m not ragging on the kid – it’s fantastic that the Oilers have enough depth (and the right coach) to carry him through this stage of development. I have no doubt he’ll get there and soon – there’s so much desire in #64.

  134. OilLeak says:

    hunter1909:
    Anyone should start up a blog called Bandwagon Oilers they’re going to get rich.

    Don’t worry I’ll balance the tone a bit.

    The Oilers were so bad tonight they made Antoine Vermette look like a Superstar.

  135. wordbird says:

    if he doesn’t celebrate, he’s cold mechanical Russian with no heart.
    give the kid a break.

  136. BlacqueJacque says:

    I think Yakupov will end up as a bigger goal scorer than Hall, but I also think we’re very lucky he’s not the kid we drafted in 2010.

    Between the language barrier, the cultural difference, the relative isolation, and the pressure, even a kid as exuberant and energetic as Yakupov would get buried under the criticism. Criticism Hall was spared because he’s a “good, Canadian kid.”

  137. bookjLe says:

    OilLeak: Don’t worry I’ll balance the tone a bit.

    The Oilers were so bad tonight they made Antoine Vermette look like a Superstar.

    They won. For the longest time I remember teams like Detroit coming to Edmonton, playing a crappy game with no effort while the Oilers fought and fought to tie it up late, only to lose in overtime.

    Good teams win bad games and good games. Bad teams only win spectacular games.

  138. regwald says:

    Hall now tied for 13th overall with 8 points. Marleau and Thornton lead with 14pts

  139. Gret99zky says:

    Doan and Morris can eat a big shit sandwich.

  140. wordbird says:

    And now TSN is ‘reporting’ Morris lost his cool because of Yakupov’s celebration.
    C’mon.

  141. delooper says:

    IMO I think Yakupov is getting a great intro to the NHL. He’s half-way sheltered but not playing a 3rd line role. He’s certainly getting a good amount of opportunities. Too bad every NHL player and North American feels like they have the right to comment on every tiny bit of emotion he expresses. What a sad reflection of us as a people.

  142. Ribs says:

    Kreuger paid for putting Nuge out there on the PK at the end of regulation with less than a minute left. I’m not sure if there was bench confusion with Horcoff out, or what, but surely someone else should have been out there. Yakupov doesn’t bat another single and I think we’d all be wondering about that move.

    It was good to see a game like this where the veterans and grinders had to outwork a well coached Phoenix club. Being able to gut out games is a very good thing in this league.

    Shane Doan – Slashing The Great White Schultz and then taking out Comrade Horcov? I thought this guy liked Edmonton?

    Derek Morris – SMRT kind of smart, as always.

  143. Ribs says:

    Speaking of the Captain, it looked like the trainer asked (or told) him to go to the dressing room and he said “F*ck That!” Hah

  144. Ribs says:

    I don’t know if anyones posted it yet, but they have the Oil Change episode up at the Oilers site -Link

  145. BlacqueJacque says:

    Oilers fans being so… protective of the Horcster.

    Strange tides be washing our shores. Strange tides indeed.

  146. Zelepukin says:

    Kruge really needs to do something with Hemsky and Yaks. Gags has been great but Hemsky must be the most frustrating winger to play with. Rarely passes, constantly turns the puck over on the offensive blue-line and hasn’t shown the second effort to retrieve lost pucks like Gags and Yaks have.

    On Yaks, we will probably see him start to do more end-to-end rushes as he builds his confidence, because absolutely no one passes to him. I’ve never seen a team so often refuse to look for their best shooter. It almost feels like they’re hazing him.

  147. "Steve Smith" says:

    I didn’t see the game (lady friend’s birthday), but I note that Justin Schultz is on a two game pointless streak…Time To Panic?

  148. khildahl says:

    That Pisani job listing has been in the paper every week for three years now….

    THIS.

    Pisani is one of my all-time favourite Oilers. As heart and soul as Smytty, scored big goals (especially in 2006), and was one the best PKers I’ve ever seen. Some similarity to Whitney in that his health problems took a lot out of him and impacted his career.

    Find one of him again and the team instantly becomes much better.

    Also, he got absolutely robbed of the Masterson.

  149. Clay says:

    Watch the replay in slow-mo, and you can definitely see that Hall’s shot hits Whitney in the back of the hand, pops up, and then Nail does his thing. That’s why PHX wouldn’t leave. I don’t know how the rule applies in this type of situation – is it only a hand pass if the player makes a move to play it with his hand (similar to kicking it in with his skate)?

    Whatever. The Oilers have been on the losing end of some bizarre calls and non-calls so far this year… it all evens out.

    Liked Dubnyk tonight. He’s noticeably calmer in net than even last year. Some goalies thrive in situations where there’s competition for the job (hello Schneider), but I think that Dubnyk has been at his best when the threat of losing the #1 spot is not an issue.

    Dubnyk’s save percentage over the 5 games that don’t include the SJS fustercluck – .944. That’s pretty damn solid.

    Now, if he can play a solid game tomorrow, that will be cause for some real hope that he’s the legit #1 the team needs.

  150. raventalon40 says:

    wordbird:
    And now TSN is ‘reporting’ Morris lost his cool because of Yakupov’s celebration.
    C’mon.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/21625113/nail-yakupov-scores-winner-then-derek-morris-punches-ryan-whitney

    So is CBS. They obviously weren’t paying attention to the fact that Yakupov WASN’T celebrating and was waving his teammates over.

    I guess context and common sense doesn’t matter when CBS and TSN have a certain story to sell.

    TSN:
    Yakupov, already establishing himself as a clutch goal-scorer, ended it in overtime, punching in a rebound after a shot by Ryan Whitney appeared to carom off Hall’s hand.

    Not that they are sticklers for accuracy, either.

  151. raventalon40 says:

    Zelepukin:
    Kruge really needs to do something with Hemsky and Yaks. Gags has been great but Hemsky must be the most frustrating winger to play with. Rarely passes, constantly turns the puck over on the offensive blue-line and hasn’t shown the second effort to retrieve lost pucks like Gags and Yaks have.

    On Yaks, we will probably see him start to do more end-to-end rushes as he builds his confidence, because absolutely no one passes to him. I’ve never seen a team so often refuse to look for their best shooter. It almost feels like they’re hazing him.

    I don’t think that’s the case. I love N64 as much as the next guy but Nail once he gets the puck doesn’t give it back or distribute very well. You gotta work the play and share the puck to succeed and that’s why Nail’s success so far has been on the RW one-timer slot area rather than the even strength LW position.

    Could be he’s still learning the new wing or it could be that when Hemsky and Gagner pass it to N64 he tries to beat 4 guys himself. He will need to learn to use his teammates more effectively.

    To be fair though, Hall does that sometimes too (one man sorties). The difference is that Hall does more things on the ice than Yak right now.

    Can’t deny that it’s exciting hockey though, what Hall and Nail do.

  152. Zelepukin says:

    raventalon40: I don’t think that’s the case. I love N64 as much as the next guy but Nail once he gets the puck doesn’t give it back or distribute very well. You gotta work the play and share the puck to succeed and that’s why Nail’s success so far has been on the RW one-timer slot area rather than the even strength LW position.

    Could be he’s still learning the new wing or it could be that when Hemsky and Gagner pass it to N64 he tries to beat 4 guys himself. He will need to learn to use his teammates more effectively.

    To be fair though, Hall does that sometimes too (one man sorties). The difference is that Hall does more things on the ice than Yak right now.

    Can’t deny that it’s exciting hockey though, what Hall and Nail do.

    I must have been watching a different game because it was Hemmer who was trying to beat 4 guys everytime he carried the puck. Yaks had very few puck possessions, most notably his two end-to-end rush attempts in the same 3rd period shift. Most of the time Yaks buzzes around waiting for some one to catch him in flight or jumps around in the offensive zone waiting for a one-timer.

  153. BONVIE says:

    All I remember is Potter being on the ice in a 6 on 4 situation paired with the older Shultz and kept wondering, how and why. Then I watched Potter chase in the corner, leaving N. SHULTZ to battle two coyotes in front of the net, and the coyotes scoring the tying goal. Then they panned on to Ralph Krueger with a puzzled dumb-founded look, and I wondered does he want his D to pressure guys in the corner like that in odd man situations, especially down two? I also wondered if Whitney is no longer seen as a top 4 D men on the Oilers in defensive situations like this, and if so then they need to dress a Defensive D-man!!! Ill take Fistric or Peckham anyday please.

    If Horcoff is injured I would rather see Potter dressed as an extra D though then to see Hordichuk again.

  154. RMGS says:

    OilLeak: Uh, Yakupov had a terrible night

    He led the team with a Corsi 8. Like I said, his best game thus far.

  155. BlacqueJacque says:

    I don’t use Twitter much, but last night happened to run across this exchange:

    Ryan Whitney ‏@ryanwhitney6
    Wow you got verified @89SGagner… Congrats. I feel bad for the ice cream bar that you’re gonna demolish on the plane to San Jose though

    Sam Gagner ‏@89SGagner
    @ryanwhitney6 Wonder if it will taste as good as a Derek Morris right hook?

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ‏@RNH_93
    @89SGagner @ryanwhitney6 wow that was ruthless

  156. hags9k says:

    I wonder if Danis doesn’t see a start tonight…

  157. jp says:

    hags9k:
    I wonder if Danis doesn’t see a start tonight…

    Danis will start the next game. that OKC plays.

    We may see Khabi’s debut tonight though.

  158. jp says:

    raventalon40: http://www.cbssports.com/nhl/blog/eye-on-hockey/21625113/nail-yakupov-scores-winner-then-derek-morris-punches-ryan-whitney

    So is CBS. They obviously weren’t paying attention to the fact that Yakupov WASN’T celebrating and was waving his teammates over.

    I guess context and common sense doesn’t matter when CBS and TSN have a certain story to sell.

    Not that they are sticklers for accuracy, either.

    CBS seems to have fixed their story – what’s in that link now looks pretty accurate to me.

    TSN Sportscentre also now blaming the Morris attack on Whitney’s words rather than anything Yak did. And they seem to have figured out who was the original shooter and who was in front of the net. They do make light of this tweet from Hall though: https://twitter.com/hallsy04

  159. danny says:

    BlacqueJacque:
    I don’t use Twitter much, but last night happened to run across this exchange:

    Ryan Whitney ‏@ryanwhitney6
    Wow you got verified @89SGagner… Congrats. I feel bad for the ice cream bar that you’re gonna demolish on the plane to San Jose though

    Sam Gagner ‏@89SGagner
    @ryanwhitney6 Wonder if it will taste as good as a Derek Morris right hook?

    Ryan Nugent-Hopkins ‏@RNH_93
    @89SGagner @ryanwhitney6 wow that was ruthless

    Hilarious. Gagner deleted it though aparently.

    I remember a video where the Pens were pranking Whitney about his breath, he didn’t handle it well…

    He can dish it out… but can’t take it… says derek morris.

  160. nelson88 says:

    couldn’t catch the game but the video of theincident made me think of morris’s first year in the league with the flames when he challenged wendel clark who quickly fed him his lunch and some trademark clark upper cuts (love that guy). made very short work of him. someone on the flames bench was beaking off about taking advantage of the rookie and you could see clark very calmly skate by and indicate that he had asked him to go. good times

  161. hags9k says:

    jp,

    Oh cool. I guess I missed the memo! These damn TPS reports have been piling up. I was hoping to see a little more of Danis but it will also be interesting to see what condition Khasbinboozin’s game is in. Also I wouldn’t be too surprised if they just keep the whip to Dubnyk a while longer. He was damn sharp last night for sure.

  162. Zipdot says:

    maudite:
    With regards to the brute and bottom of the order defense discussion:

    I have never really understood why you wouldn’t carry the extra defenseman on the roster.Surely there are talented enough bottom pairing d guys that could play on the 4th line as a winger?Keeps them in the game, if injuries come on defense, fine you swing him back to d…Cycle the puck, get it deep, bang some bodies and don’t give up too much…seems like it wouldn’t be too hard of a stretch.

    So simple … So …. Elegant. You’ve convinced me.

  163. Zipdot says:

    danny: I remember a video where the Pens were pranking Whitney about his breath, he didn’t handle it well…

    That wasn’t Whitney. I remember that. It was a “mic’d up”. But it wasn’t Whitney who was mic’d up. Can’t remember who it was, so you’ll have to trust me, but I know it wasn’t Whitney.

    EDIT: and furthermore, whoever it was, they DID handle it pretty well. Your whole comment is like, a lie, or something.

  164. danny says:

    Zipdot,

    I have no idea if you’re being funny, or if you’re Ryan Whitney… but here ya go nonetheless…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvVmEswFbs

  165. Zipdot says:

    danny:
    Zipdot,

    I have no idea if you’re being funny, or if you’re Ryan Whitney… but here ya go nonetheless…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcvVmEswFbs

    LIES!! Dang I guess it was Whitney. But it’s not like he didn’t handle it well.

  166. CrazyCoach says:

    BONVIE: Then I watched Potter chase in the corner, leaving N. SHULTZ to battle two coyotes in front of the net, and the coyotes scoring the tying goal. Then they panned on to Ralph Krueger with a puzzled dumb-founded look, and I wondered does he want his D to pressure guys in the corner like that in odd man situations, especially down two?

    Simple Pee Wee hockey.

    Pressure when: You see the numbers on the back, opponent has little control of puck, you out-number opponent.
    Contain when: You see the crest of the jersey, your opponent has control of puck, or you are OUT-NUMBERED!

    Why Potter doesn’t get that is beyond me, and I can’t for the life of me understand why Krueger had him out there.?

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