SHARKS AT OILERS G2 (12-13) 22.1.13
I’ve been a fan of the Oilers since forever, and honestly Sunday night was one of the really fun nights in forever. Not the ’06 run or the Stanley’s or the first season in the NHL–actually, it does feel a little like that one. Quite a bit, actually. It was kind of a “birth” into the league of tradition and history, that’s if the NHL cared diddly about its own history.
A few things both teams have in common:
- Shawn Horcoff is in a similar role to Stan Weir 1979-80.
- The current Oilers have two teenagers (Ryan Nugent-Hopkins and Nail Yakupov) and the 1979-80 edition also had two teenagers (Wayne Gretzky and Mark Messier).
- The current Oilers have some injuries. Nikolai Khabibulin, Andy Sutton, Ryan Jones and Theo Peckham are all unable to perform. The 1979-80 edition of the Oilers had all kinds of early season troubles involving Brett Callighen, Pat Price, Stan Weir and Ron Chipperfield. The earlier group ended up employing 40 players that season.
- In the fall of 1979, the Oilers goaltending situation was complete chaos. Part of the problem came from their veteran incumbent–Dave Dryden–who finally pulled the chute at Christmastime. Now, Nikolai Khabibulin can write his own script and perhaps he comes back and plays at a very high level, but his inability to recover from injury in time for the season–and his impending free agent status–means that the Oilers are going to be looking to add a goaltender. In Christmas 1979, Jim Corsi was called up but the organization eventually used six goalies that season, including Ron Low who was acquired late in the season.
- The Oilers left the station unsettled in their bottom 6 forwards, and in early December attempted to make a move when acquiring veteran winger Bobby Schmautz. Schmautz was filthy, I don’t know if there’s a comp in modern hockey. He’d spear an opponent and then punch him if no one noticed the spear. They got him from Boston for Dan Newman and dealt him to Colorado in Feb for Don Ashby, and that would have been a trade for the ages but Don Asby died in a car accident driving to Kamloops from Wichita in 1981 late spring. The current Oilers have some 3 and 4line issues–or at least we thought so–but that 1979-80 Oiler team had some guys in the lineup they thought would be players but it didn’t happen (Cam Connor, Dan Newman, Kari Makkonen, others).
- The odds of someone getting waived this season is pretty high. Peckham, Khabibulin, Potter, it’s probably going to happen. It happened in 1979-80, as winger Peter Driscoll grew tired of sitting.
- There have been rumors about the Oilers being interested in making a deal with the Canucks. Although rare, there was talk about Rick Blight coming to the city in 1979-80; not quite Luongo but he had a solid NHL career.
- The 1979-80 Oilers were in real trouble in the goaltending spot pretty much from the time they left the station. At the deadline, Edmonton sent away Ron Chipperfield to Quebec for veteran Ron Low–this was the same deadline as the historic Butch Goring-to-the-Islanders deal.
Steve Simmons tweeted this morning that Cam Cole has confirmation that a deal for Luongo is in place:
- Gillis says he has trade in place for Luongo re
@rcamcole barring some shoes to drop and I can confirm deal he talks about isn’t with Leafs.
I don’t think its the Oilers, but Steve Tambellini has Canuck connections, spent a wild amount of money on a genuinely aged goaltender in Khabibulin, and has enough parts to satisfy the Canucks (Gagner, others).
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Ben Eager had some issues after Sunday night’s game, one suspects he’ll be fine and the club may stay with the same 20 men who played in Vancouver. HS’s would be Paajarvi, Hordichuk and Mark Fistric.
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We saw Ralph Krueger’s line matching on the road (Dellow is on fire over at his blog btw, great posts up there about every 12 hours lately) and it’ll be interesting to see what happens at home.
Sharks look like they have at least 7 very good forwards (Thornton, Marleau, Pavelski, Couture, Havlat, Clowe, Handzus) and of course Boyle plays all 60 minutes and Brad Stuart will hammer someone. I wish the Oilers would trade for Vlasic pickles, that guy is a very nice player.
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Again. Krueger get your head outta your ass and bench everyone but Paajarvi
Jeez. Too early for a bag skate?
totally scheidering it tonight
Nevermind on the stream. I’ll sit this one out.
russ99,
Maybe just not an optional skate this early. They need practice and it’s abundantly clear.
Hey, it’s okay – I just woke up from the nap, and so far this season the Oilers are undefeated when they’re down after a first period that I miss.
Too early to start talking Seth Jones?
Ouch. At least Yak scored?
Alright Oilers fans! Booed off the ice.
What an epic buzzkill.
This is like the 80s all over again – spot the other team a half dozen goals and then come roaring back to win 8-6. It’s gonna be great.
Is this a live game or a scene from the newest Moght Ducks movie where they get blitzed and have to get all introspective.
Maybe if we wish really hard Niemi will turn into Cory Crawford and we’ll be able to come back.
Well time for a little too much NYQUIL and a pass out…. hopefully this is all just a horrible delusion brought on by the flu.
alright well
so much for that game
this is worse than last year some how
seriously…
Whitney is looking slow. RNH hasn’t been noticable. Most Oilers look like they just realized vacation time is over.
Maybe Ralph will go back to the diamond. Can’t be worse.
Exactly. Everything is wrong.
I’m torn on watching this game. Its just, ugh. Brutal. Bantam level defensive zone play (with Paajarvi as the only exception I’ve seen). Entire d-core is looking horrid and mis-reading plays left and right. Forwards not supporting the d-men, out of position, standing around.. Dubnyk not to blame, but not looking good, either.
Only thing that comes to mind is tonight’s Oilers are Old Yeller and its time to pull out the gun.
This can only help us. Hype ain’t getting us anywhere, hard work, smarts and hustle will.
But, but….. I thought we were good now!
I wonder if the Sharks can sign me and throw me into the game, looks like I might be able to get a hat trick on Dubey tonight.
Bookje’s on the sauce.
Lucinius,
Lucinius,
Paajarvi’s been their best player by a mile.
Whitney cannot play. It’s over…
Ralph might have to revert to chanting Rudy as a last resort
I joked to someone before the game about getting home on time so I could watch Two And A Half Men tonight. I guess it’s two more men than showed up for the Oilers.
I suppose this is somewhat to be expected of such a young team on their home opener, but this is beyond the pale. I’m at a loss for words.
6 goals on 17 shots.
I don’t care if you’re screened, the D hung you out to dry, turnover, whatever. Make a fucking stop when your team needs it.
Holy fucking christ
fuzzy muppet,
Sadly, Whitney’s lost enough mobility where he now needs a solid covering defenseman, and Potter aint it.
Well, they aren’t going to win the game, but they need to come out and win the two remaining periods.
Maybe Tambo will see that they need to improve the D a bit.
You just have to laugh at this point. Haha the boys are back in town!!! That intro had me so pumped up! What a letdown.
Maybe they are young and dumb enough to just come back too? You never know…
It’s still better than the lock out…….
I had my free beer. Now I’m going home.
Yeah, that many goals on 17 shots is at least partly on the goalie. No doubt.
russ99,
Right on – cocky punks getting an early lesson that teamwork and heart wins.
The good news is San Jose almost have the most dangerous lead in hockey, twice. Recipe for disaster.
Ice Sage,
Also, 17 shots in one period.
But sure, heart.
Wow. Odd that Dubie didn’t get pulled. Agreed he’s way too far back.
Whitney can’t skate and now can’t even pass the puck.
Never expected these Oilers to be this out classed.
Totally dominated in all aspects of the game.
Our ’09 roster under Patt Quinn would only be down 4-1.
6 GA on 17 shots. I’m worried Tambi will take a different lesson from this game.
And now they’re talking about Dubie on TSN.
Actually, if the lesson learned leads to Bishop, great. If it’s Luongo, very bad.
We might see Fistric for Whitney.
But that Potter penalty was a killer too.
I blame Ashton Kutcher.
Lol, they were in shock after 3 went in, haven’t recovered yet……..bad news 6-1 after 1 period, good news 6-1 after 1 period.
We probably shouldn’t take dumb penalties with the way the defence is playing tonight.
2 negatives = 6 x the negatives
I still think we can get this thread to 600 comments tonight…who’s with me..?
I walked into the living room and said that SJ looked like a playoff contender. The lady says, “Yeah, against the Oilers.” By the time I made it back to the tv they were down by 2 more.
Did Tambo say something about a 5 year rebuild and last year being year 3? if so, it seems they’re both probably right.
Didn’t the early 80s Oilers get absolutely smoked a few times in 8-goal and 9-goal losses?
I hate to refer to body language, but even when we were only 3 goals into this shitshow Dubnyk’s was terrible.
I read some reports saying Whitney had a good game on Sunday. I hope I don’t read any more of that bs now. I love Whitney but he is a liability and has been for 2 years now. It’s time to move on. Maybe you can get a draft pick for him at the deadline. It’s just too painful.
Going to give the Oilers ten minutes of the second to give me a reason to keep watching. This isn’t about winning a hockey game now, its about winning two periods to build off of for the next game.
I mean, games like this will happen (shit, its happened to Detroit already this year, amongst others — just not all in the first period). But all but one player need to be incredibly ashamed on the product on the ice tonight.
This team needs Hall and or Eberle to demand a trade to a winning team.
vishcosity,
Tambo doesn’t have 2 years. he’s out unless there’s big improvement this year.
The good news is they’re getting their mid-january asskicking duldrums out in an “early” season game.
Let’s sum up:
Worst team in hockey for three years
Lockout because millionaires can’t share
Owner demands money from taxpayers and threatens insanely to move to Seatle
Home opener shows the team is awful
But people in the arena got a free beer.
Why do the Oilers have fans, again?
Yann Danis starts the period.
That 3rd Marleau goal was a clinic on how dangerous it is to play rookies against real NHL players
Just arrived back from son #3′s fourth birthday party (kids eat free at Montana’s). So apparently the Oilers have some weaknesses on the defensive side of things?
Huh.
I’m actually disappointed. I gave Gagner, Hemsky, Yakupov 3 games to be a second line before reality came crashing down. Smyth, Horcoff, Hemsky here we come. Yay.
A real top 6 vs not ready for prime time and some just…not capable.
Men against boys. Small boys. Small boys who read their press clippings and listen to Edmonton’s media shill’s bleat on and on with glee about the impending playoff berth.
Don’t worry, Krueger’s got this.
holy hell even the TSN bobble heads are shit tonight.
You’re right LT, not much you can say – I guess there’s still going ot be nights like this
See ya Thu, I’m going to see if the wife’s ready for my A game.
Yep it’s all the defense.
My wife is at the game with her boss tonight. Given that she isn’t even texting me about how bad it is, I’m going to assume I get to deal with some very drunken rambling right after I get to sleep.
So there’s that to look forward to.
Kris11,
Cause every year at the end we get to unrwap a shiny new rookie to fantasize about during the summer
Holy shit, at lease manage a pass.
I wonder if the Oilers know to pander to Walkom when he’s reffing. Always seems to be the same weak calls from him that really disrupt the game. Any stats out there for which refs call what kind and how many penalties per game?
My stream at hockeystreams just died. A blessing, perhaps?
I like the effort there from Hartikainen. No goal but he’s driving to the net.
Hartikainen:
“Be the puck!
I am the puck!
I am a goal!”
Lucinius,
Don’t fight it.
The boys on the bus all got shitfaced one night in New England and got beat 11-0 the next afternoon by Hartford. About 1984 I think.
khildahl,
It came back…
They get ten minutes!
cabbiesmacker,
“Defensive side of things” (phrase) – implying or stating the ability to prevent an offense; (sports terminology) the capability of a team to prevent an opponent from scoring
A save!
Kris11,
I like beer a lot, don’t you?
Niemi > Luongo, apparently.
Yeah, but I didn’t get a free beer.
It almost looks like someone realized there were a bunch of TimBits kids wearing Oiler jerseys out in the 1st and made the real players go out.
Hartikainen is getting some room here and showing some things. I know this game is over, but the young man is getting a chance to play on what is a prominent line and showed well two shifts in a row.
And yet the best player in the first period? Not getting a bump. Poor MPS.
Feb in 1984 (Oilers won cup that year) —- Hartford 11 Edmonton 0. Don’t despair people…lol.
Lowetide,
In a first period blowout, there has to be a lot of freedom as a coach to try to do the things you want, since you don’t need to watch the scoreboard anymore.
Look where Danis is on these saves. Dubnyk was on the goaline. He should have been out after that third goal at least and for sure after #4. Krueger deserves lots of credit for that first period deficit.
Also, all the players that skipped the “optional” skate this afternoon should be ashamed. How tired can you be after one game?? They NEED practice. Look at your TV for exhibit A
BULL SHIT.
Bar_Qu: you bet. I’d like to see the Oilers play Harski, Paajarvi and Yakupov a little more. Might as well get their feet wet.
They can fire the puppets all they like, if the KLowe plan is to suck for two more, then clearly I’m the fool and my fantasy team is absolute proof.
7-1 soon enough. Yay?
The only thing that will make happy tonight is a Yaktrick.
The first three penalties were fully legit, but calling that after the missed stick on Schultz is total garbage.
So… did the team get drunk last night?
I like the heart Smyth showed there.
I’m kind of thinking tonight, actually.
If Hall, Eberle, and RNH are leading this team, they need to get a goal and tilt the ice while they are on in the remaining time.
Lol, not sure. That loss in 84 was one of 5 in a row, with both 99 and 17 hurt, they came back and the Oil won 8 in a row thereafter.
Is it just me, or does the ice look like crap?
I also would like to see the Yaktrick. We need an assist and a controversial or incendiary comment.
khildahl,
LOL – you said it – this is so tonight’s game:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/an-lpjzbY42hbJmm/slap_shot_1977_first_ice_hockey_game/
We even have Danis in the net.
A glimmer.
Where was this team last period? And why can’t Eberle hit the net!? Geez. Trade him, imo!!
A little life from the Nuge here, would like to see Hall pot one and RNH get on the scoresheet. Kings losing again tonight.
So remind me why Eberle doesn’t PK more often? Defensive ability is clearly not a requirement, so…
I want to see Krueger do something comically desperate, and I’m not even sure what. Have RNH centre Pettrell and Petry, or something.
Bar_Qu,
I made the same observation halfway through the first. Looks absolutely brutal. Soft as hell and chewed up. Puck is going to be bouncing everywhere in the third.
Edmonton gunning to draft first overall for ice makers?
and a nice shift from the Horcoff line, with some solid work from Hartikainen.
Why didn’t we start playing this way?
Record setting night!
Make it count.
!!!!
Apparently Smyth isn’t using a pure wooden blade anymore.
Obviously its all his fault. The universe is imploding.
Okay boys, lets get the little Russian another PP goal.
Katz should use some of that newly earmed HRR from the new CBA to buy a new iceplant, not just free beers.
Bury it. Get something going.
You better call that.
Hope 94′s okay.
All this talk about free beer is making me thirsty.
How is that not a major for hitting from behind.
SCHULTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!
Attaboy
Woo!
On the goal line AND on his knees. It’s like he just squares to the puck and hopes it hits him. Very slow relfexes. He’s always played like that. Maddening. Everyone shoots over his shoulders.
Not all his fault tonight, but I don’t think Dubnyk has the assets to be an elite goaltender. Now that the league has him figured out, I’m not sure he is going to even considered an average goaltender within a year or two.
Justin Schultz with his first NHL goal, Nuge on the board.
Get another one and this might turn into a hockey game.
Schultz!
Yay, we’re slightly less embarassing now!
Should still have amost 5 minutes of PP left after that goal,
If Edmonton can spend the rest of the game on a 5-on-3, they’ve got a chance of pulling this one out of the fire.
Nice goal, Schultz the Younger!
Schultz!!
Should have been.
Now we just need a few more 5-3s… or for the Sharks to pull Niemi for laughs.
What was the score after 2 in that San Jose game in the 06-07 season? The one where Smyth broke Gretzky’s team record?
Watching Whitney skate back for the puck, he looks like he’s laboring just skating. With all of the down time had, it might never get any better for him.
What is TSN suggesting with these Lean Cuisine ads during a spiel du hockey?
I told the lady that if they scored 2 before the 3rd…(she’s not paying attention now anyway)
delooper,
Agreed that would take all but two defenseman off the ice, but unfortunately Whitney would still be on the ice so they would have to pare themselves to their best 3. J. Shultz, Smid, Petry.
For a while there, that first line resembled the one we had on Sunday.
Does anyone offhand know the velocity/speed (poor on my physics terms…didn’t take 12 when I was at Bev Facey in the Park) difference between a wrist and slapshot?
Good news is that the Oilers are holding their own in the Corsi battle. Shots 23-22 for SJ. That’s gotta be worth something, no?
A European or African slap shot?
Suntory Hanzo,
No, but I can confirm that, in the sense that they’re generally used, those terms mean the same thing, if that helps.
jp,
Firetruck.
Hopefully Ralph makes them watch SJ back check over and over again when they are watching the film on this.
Kris11,
Nice. That may be the high point of the night for me.
Uh, I… I don’t know.
the only really good news is that the Oilers lost this game and we don’t have to feel bad about a close loss.
pboy,
Not to mention scoring over and over.
me: “Hey dad, you wanna watch a documentary?”
pops: “I thought you were watcing hockey.”
me: “They let in 6 goals in the first period.”
pops: “What???”
me: “But at least they gave away free beer to the fans.”
pops: “Was your team in the line?”
BlacqueJacque,
You have to know these things when you’re king.
Suntory Hanzo,
http://www.exploratorium.edu/hockey/shooting2.html
But if you’re talking about J Schultz, he’s got a wicked blinding fast knuckling wrister that he scored a bunch of goals in OKC with and should be using more often. That one crazy glove save by Luongo the other night was that wrister. Haven’t seen it yet tonight. He doesn’t usually shoot that unless he’s carrying the puck and rushing the net.
I think YaKUpov is going to turn out just fine. I think his passing is underrated. Almost always fast and crisp.
Oilers are winning this hockey game 1-0.
Well, we would be if we hadn’t spotted them a 6-1 lead.
Yay! Both rookies score in the home opener!
lol
Mick McGeough looks different these days.
You don’t think they can score 3 next period?
nice call on that hand pass Magoo
jp,
That’s awfully generous – I’m not even sure that I got that.
Kris11,
Nee!
I deserved that one…well played Kris
Sure. Then they’d lose 6-5
Oilers win the period, Danis with the shutout…
Kruggie’s nex motivational scheme should involve visualizing starting the game down 5…
I guess maybe Renney wasn’t the problem with these guys not showing up ready to play.
My option to watching the third period is mastering the VLOOKUP function in Excel so I can more efficiently mark student multiple choice tests (that neither they nor I wish to give them, but what can you do – no zeros allowed). So, I will bear up under the pressure and continue to watch this game.
African or European slapshots regardless.
We should probably just start brainstorming rhyme ideas for our pursuit of Seth Jones.
Well someone should get the first “1″ rating of the year from the Cult
I think we all nominate Dubnyk for that.
Yeah, but would be a close loss, with a gutsy comeback attempt. Just saying I think they are capable and would prefer that now than present score. Now, Oil leading 5-0, losing 6-5, not good.
Ebs sounded suitably embarrased. Hopefully these guys make it a little more interesting and have something to build on Thursday vs. LA.
I agree with that, there’s no reason to give up the game UNLESS you’re with a pretty girl and she’s losing interest in the game.
“Not winnin for Mackinnon” sounds so much better than anything rhyming with “Jones.”
“Relying on Whitney’s foot amd ankle bones for Jones.”
No
Yikes, I just got here and see the wicked score.
Did this turn into a Canucks fan blog while I was gone?
Such whining and negativity.
I’ll take the Vancouver win over this one(0-2 at home). The Hockey Gods Have Spoken, but we can score 4.
.500 hockey(at least!) rejoice!
I’m out of breath for Seth.
Though if the losses look like this one, it’s going to be Moans and Groans for Jones.
We Oilers fans have so much to be positive about what with the great on ice results, the class of the owner, and the brilliance of the management team.
A Freudian would have a heyday with the sexual content of these slogans.
Well, in all honesty, the team played much better in the second. Forgot that nightmare of a first period (if that’s possible) and there’s no need to pull anything desperate yet.
Keeping in the spirit: Say no-no to Luongo.
Kris11,
I must say I very much enjoy your wit.
Keep on posting, good sir.
Didn’t RICKI end one of his shot quality (or something) rants with “firetruck”. I thought it was a reference to that.
Regardless, it was an lol for me.
Kris11: my lol was actually out loud. Nicely played.
(fucking hate that “LOL” means something other than what it says nowadays”)
jp,
It was, actually. But it’s almost a let down when people catch my references when I’m aiming for obliqueness.
Thanks BlacqueJacque
I reminded of Casey Stengel’s old line about the 154 game baseball schedule. There’s 50 you’re going to win no matter what and 50 you’re going to lose no matter what.
How you perform in the other 54 determines your season.
Whatever happened to what’s-his-face, who accused Kris of being my alter-ego? I wouldn’t mind that accusation being made a few times tonight.
MPS is looking a little better this season. A little stronger on the puck.
Taylor Hall is a pretty nice hockey player.
What a quick release.
shazam!
Yay! Now catch them napping four more times.
There you go LT! Now let’s have a few furious shifts and see what happens.
Yeah what was that guy’s name.
Was it “Lee”?
it’s called the NHL Hall of Fame in anticipation of Taylor’s arrival.
Edit: yeah yeah, it’s called the Hockey Hall of Fame. I was excited.
But I don’t know about that Hall kid. No heart.
That was nice. And I think 6-3 is officially in the realm of not totally embarrassing.
You mean Nostrabumbass?
Nice little snipe by Hall.
Have you never heard of TIMBUK3?
And at least we have your lower lip to use in case the zamboni breaks down.
Kris11,
That’s the guy. I think he’s also the guy who was fond of pointing out that “hockey” and “cocky” rhyme, but I may be confusing my various admirers.
Speaking of, where is he with his anti-Hemsky rant otnight? We could use it.
The dreaded 3 goal lead!
It’s weird, but if the game ended now at 6-3, I’d feel better about it than I did about some wins last year. Since the first period, we have a hockey team.
If Eberle went where he did on Lou the other night he would have scored again.
jake70,
The Oilers winning 5-0 and losing has never happened. Anything to do with Manchester is blocked from my mind.
Except the Stone Roses.
Lowetide,
Is that the same guy? I wouldn’t have guessed. Ragging on Gilbert was Lee’s thing, I think, and I suppose it’s probably the same type of person as the kind that’d rag on Hemsky. I haven’t detected Lee’s misogyny in Nostradumbass’s posts, though, and the latter’s name displays a self-deprecating wit that I wouldn’t have imagined of Lee.
And anyway, everybody’s DSF until proven otherwise, as far as I’m concerned.
Not to rag on the refs but they sure had an iron fist in the first.
Clowe gets the penalty there.
Tonight, on Unsolved Mysteries: How does Justin Schultz always skate into the slot unharmed?
He just faced two d-men down and for some reason neither stepped forward for the hit.
Never saw the first two periods, but wow, I like the energy out there. Even the 4th line is showing some moxie.
Well, sorry about that then
Obliqueness was still achieved, in a sense.
khildahl,
I had season tickets in the expansion seats back in 92 and 93. I would wear my only jersey I had at the time (a Klima 85…no really…my buddy wears it when we go see the Oil in Vancouver as I live in Abbotsford now…he gets rave reviews)
Anytime the Oil would be down, a buddy of mine would trash talk the Oilers, and without fail that guy would score. I’m pretty sure he is responsible for Klima leading the Oilers in scoring.
That, and he would tuck his Bruins jersey into his acid wash jeans.
Yeah, the Oilers have done enough to keep their confidence going forward, for whatever that’s worth.
That bad first says everything you need to know about the NHL: any one of dumb penalties, poor positional play, and bad goaltending will cost you a win. All of them will cost you a blowout.