ARCOBELLO TO THE SHOW

Mark Arcobello has been recalled to the Oilers. He has not played an NHL game, and could debut tomorrow night. More later.

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  1. RMGS says:

    If they were going to go to the Barons for immediate help, Arcobello’s the best centre available. And, good for the young man should he play his first NHL game on Wednesday.

  2. Caribbeerman says:

    This may not be a long term solution but looking at his stats and his range of skills I’d say he can play in a pinch. And I’m happy for him, a guy who has paid his dues and come a very ling way as a prospect especially given his size.

    It’s in circumstances like these that I’m comfortable with Kruegar as our coach, knowing that as coach of the Swiss team he could not always replace one of his better players with an equally talented player (not a lot of depth there) so he knows how to shuffle a lineup and play players to their strengths.

    Lets hope he finds a nice little role for Arcobello and the player and team find success.

  3. dessert1111 says:

    Now I feel a lot less silly for suggesting that this could happen for the past several months. Don’t make me look foolish Arcobello, hat trick your first game!!

  4. Woodguy says:

    The Oilers need a C and they take the best one available from OKC and not the “political” choice (which would be VV in this case)

    Whitney gets scratched when he under performs.

    What’s up with the Oilers doling out ice time on merit and not reputation or political reasons?

    Breath of fresh air.

    Good luck Mark!

    I hope you do well.

  5. Woodguy says:

    RMGS,

    good for the young man should he play his first NHL game on Wednesday.

    At 24 years old he’ll be the oldest Oiler C on Wednesday.

    Crazy.

  6. OilLeak says:

    Woodguy:
    RMGS,

    good for the young man should he play his first NHL game on Wednesday.

    At 24 years old he’ll be the oldest Oiler C on Wednesday.

    Crazy.

    Will most likely be the best face-off man on the team too, I hope Arcobello does well, I’m rooting for him.

  7. leadfarmer says:

    Sink or swim for Arcabello I guess. Get your 30% off. zone starts and hope you get noticed. In a good way that is. One more center goes down and we can fire the training staff again. Yeaaa, ( in a drawn out sarcastic way).

  8. yegCopywriter says:

    I wonder if they try to balance out the lines out since he had some success with Hall and Eberle…

    Yakupov–Nugent Hopkins–Hemsky
    Hall–Arcobello–Eberle
    Smyth–Gagner–Petrell
    Hartikainen–Lander–Paajarvi

  9. leadfarmer says:

    Bad time for injuries too. Seems like the next 8 games are very winnable or at least would be with a full lineup.

  10. bookjLe says:

    I am happy to see him get the opportunity and hope he gets at least 3 games and some meaningful icetime.

    After that I plan on saying “Ralph Krueger wrecked Mark Arcobello” frequently.

  11. sliderule says:

    I think RK has to address the overpassing on the first unit.It seems we have you take it ,no, you take it over and over.This is carrying the unselfish to the point of stupidity.
    Clare Drake when they were playing an overmatched Japanese team made his player take two passes before they shot.
    Maybe we need the opposite a maximum of two passes then you have to shoot.

  12. Nicholas says:

    I’m assuming that since Krueger won’t be able to run Belanger and Horcoff in shutdown roles he’ll juggle to do a bit of power vs power.

    Hall-Ganger-Hemsky
    Yakupov-RNH-Eberle
    Smyth-Lander-Petrell
    Paajarvi-Arcobello-Hartikainen

    First line will have to go power vs power and hope they can flourish. Second line gets the push in the offensive zone, and the third line you have to hope can saw off for all the defensive zone draws they’ll be taking.

  13. dessert1111 says:

    I would try:

    Hall – Arcobello – Eberle
    Smyth – RNH – Hemsky
    Yakupov – Gagner – Petrell
    Harty – Lander – PRV

    Switch Yak and Smyth if need be or RNH with Gagner. Ironically I think the least risky place to put Arcobello is between Hall and Eberle on the top line.

  14. spoiler says:

    Hard not to be happy for this guy. Works his buns off and finds himself in the show.

    I wonder if his playing time with the forwards who were locked out factored into the decision. He certainly has more familiarity on the ice with The Kids than say VV.

  15. till_horcoff_is_coach says:

    The golden trio needs more north south but they are competing against the best.
    Each player on the Nordic line plays better together than apart. Hopefully they hang in there.
    Gagner and Hemsky are best candidates to shield Yak.
    So Im guessing Arco slots into Horcoffs role and sees reduced responsibilities.
    There’s just no place to hide anyone on this roster.

    A better road lineup (remembering RKs preference of pairs) is to swap Smyth and Hall. Then cross your fingers that each line holds back the tide and double shift 4 when possible.

    Regardless, this team is going to be hard up until Belanger and Hotcoff equivalents are back in the lineup.

  16. Downright Fierce says:

    OT, but Vollman tweeted his usage numbers for this year’s rookies: http://t.co/mcuPnby0

    Then he followed up with this:

    Yes, Justin Schultz is arguably rookie of the year so far. Very impressive. RT @mtoggel That Shultz bubble kind of sticks out hey?

    I think we all feel that way by eye, so it’s nice to see one of our favourite metrics begin to compliment Schultz the Younger.

    Oh, and congrats to Colin MacDonald or whoever we called up.

  17. FPB94 says:

    Downright Fierce,

    He’s playing for the Islanders. He became a good AHL 1st liner/NHL Tweener.

  18. bookjLe says:

    sliderule:
    I think RK has to address the overpassing on the first unit.It seems we have you take it ,no, you take it over and over.This is carrying the unselfish to the point of stupidity.
    Clare Drake when they were playing an overmatched Japanese team made his player take two passes before they shot.
    Maybe we need the opposite a maximum of two passes then you have to shoot.

    Don’t worry, they will figure it out. I would rather they learn by trying the skilled approach and then finding the appropriate ways to score than telling them to dumb down their game and play like a plugger.

  19. godot10 says:

    Arco’s basically played with everyone in OKC…Hall, Eberle, Paajarvi, Petrell, and Hartikainen, and maybe even on RW with Lander.

    One or two of Paajarvi, Gagner, and Nugent-Hopkins is going to get a big push penalty-killing. Smyth and Lander, Petrell and Paajarvi, probably. Expect maybe even Hemsky might have to take up the PK torch.

  20. RexLibris says:

    What is all this nonsense about the Oilers not having any centre depth? They’ve got Gagner, Gagne, and Ganger. Come on, one out of those three should be able to win a faceoff.

    On a more serious note, I hadn’t even considered Arcobello, but I know that I will be cheering like heck for him. Small player, great skill and some intelligence to boot. Reasonable expectations would be some good decisions made, creating something positive in the offensive zone, and generally not looking like a fish out of water. Unrealistic expectations would be a hat trick, four assists and the cover of the Hockey News.

    You know, I’m good for whatever..

  21. pboy says:

    Spector spent a nice portion of his show talking about how Gagner is too small to play on the Oiler’s 2nd line. IMHO, Gagner has been the most consistent Oiler forward so far this season. I guess he’s going to have those sideburns trimmed off before he gets any respect from some the MSM here in Edmonton. I’m sure there are quite a few teams around the league that would be happy to take Gagner off of the Oiler’s hands.

  22. RENNAVATE says:

    I’m looking forward to the first NHL appearance of the Beautiful Bow™ (Mark Arcobello).

  23. FPB94 says:

    pboy,

    10 points in 9 games, you know that’s horrible, especially for a 2nd liner.

  24. cabbiesmacker says:

    IMHO, Gagner has been the most consistent Oiler forward so far this season.

    Well he’s certainly been consistent at faceoffs, zone entries, and soft time points. Not to mention point production every year of 6.

    I’m sure there are quite a few teams around the league that would be happy to take Gagner off of the Oiler’s hands.

    Gawd I wish Colorado was one of them and O’Reilly was coming this way on the deal but that’s just silliness.

    Hey it’s not that Gagner is shitty ok? He is what he is and unfortunately not much of it fills an Oiler need right now. It’s not his fault that he’s been forced into a role he isn’t suited for but that’s his lot on this team. He’s centering two guys likely to end their careers as minus players and he’s totally incapable of extracting himself from their jetstreams or helping them improve.

    If he ends the year at near point per game production but -25 what should we say about him?

  25. FPB94 says:

    A lot of people here trapped inside a box, or a square.

  26. spoiler says:

    pboy: Spector spent a nice portion of his show talking about how Gagner is too small to play on the Oiler’s 2nd line. IMHO, Gagner has been the most consistent Oiler forward so far this season. I guess he’s going to have those sideburns trimmed off before he gets any respect from some the MSM here in Edmonton. I’m sure there are quite a few teams around the league that would be happy to take Gagner off of the Oiler’s hands.

    I don’t think size is an issue. And I think he has courage and tenacity, from what my eye sees. I’d like to see more glue to his checks in his own end though. I’d like to see the same effort in his own end as he puts in at the other. That’s my problem with Gagner. Kid has skills and smarts though.

  27. rickithebear says:

    Arcobello was a .70+ PPG center @ 18 in NCAA

    Khaira 2012 RD2 #63
    Coyle 2010 RD1 #28
    Bjugstad 2010 1 #19
    L. Leblanc 2009 RD1 #18
    Schroeder 2009 RD1 #22
    D. Stepan 2008 RD2 #51
    Turris 2007 Rd1 #3
    C. Wilson 2007 RD1 #7
    T. J. Galliardi 2007 RD2 #55
    Toews 2006 RD1 #3
    Matsamotto 2006 RD3 #79
    Arcabello UDFA
    T.J. Hensick 2005 RD3 #88
    R. Kesler 2002 RD1 #23

    Plus he was .8-.95PPG in AHL @22.
    N. Kadri 2009 RD1 #7
    P.Holland 2009 Rd1 #15
    C. Hodgson 2008 RD1 #10
    Z. Boychuck 2008 Rd1 #14
    N. Bonino 2007 RD6 #173
    C. Conacher UDFA
    Z. Dalpe 2008 RD2 #45
    D. Desharnais UDFA
    M. Perreault RD6 #177

    Trending versus hockey peers shows a very interesting picture.

  28. oiltimer says:

    A square … boxes are more than 2 dimensional
    I would say a line but that would be crossed

  29. Ribs says:

    Peckham to Oklahoma for conditioning -Link

  30. Bruce McCurdy says:

    RexLibris: What is all this nonsense about the Oilers not having any centre depth? They’ve got Gagner, Gagne, and Ganger.

    I think they should roll Doobie with Ganja and Hempsky. Problems solved! (What problems?)

  31. godot10 says:

    Isn’t Cory Conacher too small to play on the same team as Martin St. Louis? -). -).

    Worrying about whether one has the perfect 2nd line centre when there are still massive holes in other parts of the roster, one of them being the MSM’s buddy Ryan Whitney, suggests that there are massive holes in the mainstream media.

    Gagner is an actual NHL player. The Oilers don’t have 20 of them yet. When they have 20, then one can worry about whether Gagner is the perfect 2nd line centre.

  32. spoiler says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I think they should roll Doobie with Ganja and Hempsky. Problems solved! (What problems?)

    Well they’ll probably just pass it between them. Meanwhile Horcer and Belanger are Jones-ing right now.

  33. rickithebear says:

    I love stats.hockeyanalysis.com

    were they show real results (goals for and against while pair with someone)
    Current pairs Players are most successful with.:
    XXX-RNH-EBERLE
    Hall-XXX-Petrell
    Smyth-Gagner-XXX
    MP-XXX-Hemsky
    XXX-Lander-Hemsky
    Harti-XXX-Eberle
    Harti-RNH-XXX

    Harti-RNH-Eberle
    MP-Lander-Hemsky
    Smyth-Gagner-Yakupov
    Hall-Arcabello-Petrell

  34. russ99 says:

    cabbiesmacker,

    IMO, that’s still vastly better than how our centers used to give up on the zone and shade back under Renney. All three guys are contributing in the offensive zone.

    Can’t blame Gagner for the whole line’s defensive shortcomings. Despite his enthusiasm and selfless play at times, Yak has a lot to learn about defense inn the NHL. Krueger needs to play them with his best defensive pairing.

  35. BlacqueJacque says:

    Woodguy:
    The Oilers need a C and they take the best one available from OKC and not the “political” choice (which would be VV in this case)

    How would VV be a political choice?

  36. FPB94 says:

    BlacqueJacque,

    He’s a big strong ”Defensive” guy.

  37. bookjLe says:

    Bruce McCurdy: I think they should roll Doobie with Ganja and Hempsky.Problems solved! (What problems?)

    Gene Principe is filing a copyright infringement case against you at this very moment!

  38. bookjLe says:

    Arcobello is probably never going to have an NHL career, but if he can get 10 games in at about $8000 per game (vs $800 in the AHL) it will make a difference for the guy.

  39. RexLibris says:

    Bruce McCurdy,

    Benn trying to think how I could get this clip, or any clip from the movie, into an article. This seems like the right spot.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjAB_rMQjGY

    My favourite spot is still the two soldiers talking “do you care if it falls?” “If what falls?” “The Roman Empire”…

    Great stuff.

  40. Woodguy says:

    BlacqueJacque: How would VV be a political choice?

    Draft pick, big body, has previous NHL games.

  41. OilLeak says:

    bookjLe:
    Arcobello is probably never going to have an NHL career, but if he can get 10 games in at about $8000 per game (vs $800 in the AHL) it will make a difference for the guy.

    Why do you hate Arcobello so much?

  42. BlacqueJacque says:

    Woodguy: Draft pick, big body, has previous NHL games.

    I can see that but I don’t imagine it’s political on the scale of the Schremp situation.

  43. BlacqueJacque says:

    OilLeak: Why do you hate Arcobello so much?

  44. jp says:

    rickithebear:
    I lovestats.hockeyanalysis.com

    were they show real results (goals for and against while pair with someone)
    Current pairs Players are most successful with.:
    XXX-RNH-EBERLE
    Hall-XXX-Petrell
    Smyth-Gagner-XXX
    MP-XXX-Hemsky
    XXX-Lander-Hemsky
    Harti-XXX-Eberle
    Harti-RNH-XXX

    Harti-RNH-Eberle
    MP-Lander-Hemsky
    Smyth-Gagner-Yakupov
    Hall-Arcabello-Petrell

    I haven’t looked through all the combos in detail. But you’re basing the Hall-Petrell chemistry on 21 minutes played together last year?? Really?

  45. "Steve Smith" says:

    jp: I haven’t looked through all the combos in detail. But you’re basing the Hall-Petrell chemistry on 21 minutes played together last year?? Really?

    You must be new here.

  46. jp says:

    “Steve Smith”,

    Yeah, should know better.

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